Bible Answers Live

How Long Is Your Forever?

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00:45 Now here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:48 Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:50 - Hello friends.
00:51 Would you like to hear an amazing fact?
00:54 On June 23rd, 2022,
00:56 Amazon revealed an experimental Alexa feature
01:00 that allows the AI assistant to mimic the voices
01:03 of the user's dead relatives.
01:06 The company demonstrated the feature
01:07 at its annual MARS conference,
01:10 showing a video in which a child is seen asking Alexa
01:13 to read the "Wizard of Oz".
01:15 And then you hear a unique voice we later learn
01:18 is his deceased grandmother reading the book to him
01:21 with a natural warmth and inflection.
01:23 Amazon said, "Its AI systems can learn
01:26 to imitate someone's voice
01:27 from just a single minute of recorded audio."
01:31 In an age of abundant videos and voice notes,
01:33 this means it's well within the average consumer's reach
01:36 to clone the voices of deceased parents, spouses,
01:39 or friends to create new messages.
01:43 I can understand people
01:44 wanting to remember their loved ones, Pastor Ross,
01:46 but this could get a little creepy,
01:48 'cause I think people already think
01:51 that the dead are communicating with them.
01:52 - That's right, Pastor Doug.
01:54 It's interesting, you know,
01:55 when you get a phone call and you answer the phone,
01:57 you could, for the most part,
01:59 tell who's calling you by the sound of their voice,
02:02 especially somebody you know well.
02:03 You don't have to ask or look at the call ID
02:05 to see who this is.
02:07 We connect the sound of a person's voice with who they are,
02:09 their personality and you know, it's not a new thing,
02:12 but even the Bible speaks of people
02:15 wanting to communicate with a dead loved one.
02:18 Now maybe they wanna see the person,
02:21 but for sure they want to hear this dead loved one
02:23 communicate to them.
02:25 That's not only something we find in the Bible,
02:27 but I think most of our listeners know
02:28 that there is just an increased interest
02:32 in communicating with the dead.
02:34 - Yeah and the Bible forgives or forbids rather,
02:37 what it calls necromancy, are trying, a medium,
02:40 someone who tries to communicate with a dead,
02:43 and you can read in Ecclesiastes 9:5.
02:46 "So the living know that they'll die,
02:49 but the dead do not know anything."
02:51 And so, and you can read here,
02:54 there it is on the screen for those watching the TV program,
02:56 "Neither have they anymore a reward
02:58 for the memory of them is forgotten."
03:00 And verse six goes on to say,
03:02 "For their love, their hatred, their envy is now perished.
03:06 Neither have they any more a portion forever
03:08 in anything that is done under the sun."
03:10 Under the sun, meaning in this life.
03:13 Now where a lot of people get confused.
03:15 We know that when a believer dies,
03:17 their next conscious thought is the resurrection
03:20 and the presence of the Lord.
03:22 But that doesn't happen till the coming of the Lord.
03:24 For them it's instant, it feels instant,
03:27 but the dead haven't gone to heaven
03:29 until there's a resurrection.
03:30 The judgment hasn't happened yet and that's still future.
03:34 So this idea that we can communicate with the dead
03:36 is a great fallacy.
03:38 And I'm surprised how many Christians believe
03:40 that they're getting messages from the dead
03:42 and this is spiritism really.
03:44 - Now somebody might be wondering,
03:46 "Well, what's the big deal?
03:47 So what if you think your dead loved one
03:49 is speaking to you?"
03:50 Well, we do know that the Bible tells us
03:52 that at the end of time,
03:54 the devil's gonna do everything he can to deceive.
03:56 And one of the deceptions of the devil
03:57 is going to be impersonating dead loved ones
04:01 to lead people astray.
04:02 The Bible says. "That the devil
04:03 is able to perform signs and wonders."
04:06 And especially at the end of time,
04:08 there are these evil spirits that are going around the world
04:11 and they're trying to deceive people.
04:13 So if a dead loved one shows up
04:14 and they communicating something and they say,
04:16 "Oh, this is, you know, a message from heaven."
04:18 And if a person doesn't understand
04:20 what happens when a person really dies,
04:22 well they setting themselves up for deception.
04:25 - Yeah and especially if something is gonna contradict
04:27 what you find in the Bible, it's dangerous.
04:30 And this has happened before as well.
04:33 Well, now some of our friends
04:34 might wanna know where are the Bible verses,
04:36 what does it say about this subject
04:38 of are the dead really dead?
04:40 And you'll be happy to know friends,
04:42 that we do have a free offer
04:43 that gives you a whole study
04:44 on what the Bible teaches on this.
04:46 - The study guide is simply entitled,
04:48 "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
04:49 And we'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks
04:52 the number to call.
04:53 You'll see it on your screen,
04:54 if you're watching is 800-835-6747,
04:58 and you can ask for the study guide by name,
05:00 "Are the Dead Really Dead?" or ask for offer number 117,
05:04 and we'll be happy to send that out
05:05 to anyone in North America.
05:07 I know we do have folks who are listening
05:09 outside of North America,
05:10 and if you'd like to read the study guide,
05:12 we encourage you to go to the Amazing Facts website,
05:14 just amazingfacts.org, you'll be able to read it there.
05:17 You can actually sign up for a free Bible study.
05:20 You can do this both online,
05:21 or you can actually mail in your study guides,
05:24 and you'll go through a series of great Bible lessons,
05:27 helping to understand these important truths of scripture.
05:30 You know, pastor Doug,
05:31 we also wanna welcome those who are joining
05:33 on not only listening on satellite radio,
05:35 and on land-based radio stations,
05:37 but we have folks who are also watching
05:39 at the Amazing Facts television station or channel
05:43 as well as watching online
05:44 on the Doug Batchelor Facebook page,
05:46 on the Amazing Facts Facebook page.
05:49 So we want to greet all of you.
05:51 If you have a Bible question, our phone lines are open
05:53 and the number to call is 800-463-7297.
05:59 Again, that's 800-463-7297.
06:01 If you pick up your phone and give us a call,
06:04 there's a very good chance
06:06 that you'll get on tonight's program.
06:08 But before we get to the phone lines,
06:10 we always like to begin with prayer.
06:11 So let's do that now.
06:13 Dear Father in heaven, we thank You for Your Word.
06:15 We thank You for the opportunity we have
06:16 to be able to study together,
06:18 and we ask Your blessing upon those who are listening
06:20 wherever they might be,
06:21 and be with us here in the studio
06:23 as we open up Your Word and we ask this in Jesus name. Amen.
06:26 - Amen.
06:27 - Well, we're ready to go to our first phone,
06:29 our first caller, Pastor Doug.
06:31 We've got Anthony listening in New York.
06:33 Anthony, welcome to the program.
06:34 - [Anthony] Hello, good evening, pastors.
06:36 - Evening.
06:38 - [Anthony] Matthew chapter, I believe it is Matthew 27:53.
06:45 It says verse 52,
06:49 this has to do with the resurrection
06:51 of the death of Christ and it says,
06:53 "And the graves were open and many bodies of the saints,
06:57 which slept arose."
06:59 And verse 53 says, "and came out of the graves
07:02 after His resurrection and went into the holy city
07:05 and appeared unto many."
07:06 My question is actually related to Revelation chapter 14,
07:10 where it talks about the 144,000.
07:14 So as I read versus one through four,
07:17 it seems to allude to the 144,000
07:21 in being a number from the past,
07:22 especially when it says,
07:24 "That it's the first fruits of Christ."
07:27 Could the saints that were raised at the crucifixion
07:31 and resurrection of, oh, at the resurrection of Christ,
07:34 be part of, or be that 144,000,
07:37 or are we only looking towards the future?
07:42 - Well, I think the whole key to understanding the 144,000,
07:46 and I'm more convinced of that today than I was yesterday,
07:49 because I read about it again this morning
07:51 is that the number really denotes
07:54 a leadership among God's people.
07:58 So first fruits doesn't always mean sequential.
08:00 First fruits can mean from like the 12 apostles
08:04 were a type of first fruits for Jesus.
08:06 And you read in the Old Testament,
08:08 I just got done reading where David had an army of 288,000
08:12 that would rotate and that's two times 144,000.
08:16 I think there was six months
08:17 they each would be kinda on duty and off duty
08:19 so they could take care of their homes and farms.
08:21 So it's two sets of 144,000.
08:24 And then you can read, there was 288 people
08:28 that ministered in the sanctuary.
08:29 It again, they had by day by night,
08:31 there's 12 hours in the day, 12 at night, it's 144,000,
08:35 144,000.
08:37 But their leaders, this is His army, it's His priesthood.
08:41 And so I think the 144,000, when it says, "First fruits",
08:44 it's not talking about 144,000
08:47 that were resurrected at the crucifixion of Christ.
08:51 I think it's still speaking at the time it was written.
08:53 It's looking forward to a group near the end of time.
08:57 So I have a book, we have a free book.
09:00 We'll be happy to send you a copy,
09:02 where it reviews that,
09:04 and or anyone that wants to know it's about 144,000.
09:08 - If you'd like receive the book,
09:09 all you need to do is call our resource phone line.
09:11 That's 800-835-6747.
09:14 You can ask for the book called "The 144,000",
09:17 and we'll be happy to send it to whoever calls.
09:19 You know, pastor the actual title of the book.
09:21 I'm looking for it here, "Who Shall Sing the Song."
09:24 I believe it's entitled talking about the 144,000,
09:27 and that is free to anyone in north America.
09:29 Again, just call 800-835-6747, we'll send that to you.
09:35 Our next caller that we have is Wesley
09:36 listening from California.
09:38 Wesley, welcome to the program.
09:41 - [Wesley] Yes, thank you.
09:42 My questions basically, should we move now to the country
09:47 so we can avoid buying and selling,
09:50 and being stuck with a mark of the beast?
09:54 - All right, well, let's look at that.
09:56 First, let me read that for our friends that are listening,
09:59 it says that part of the persecution of the beast
10:02 in the last days, it says,
10:03 "That no one might buy or sell,
10:06 except he who has the mark or the number of the beast,
10:08 or the number of his name."
10:10 And it really shouldn't shock anybody
10:12 that one of the things the devil's gonna use
10:14 in the last days is gonna be economic sanctions.
10:16 I mean, you can turn the page in the news right now,
10:20 and it's talking about economic sanctions,
10:22 that of governments against Russia and other governments
10:26 if they're not complying with international norms.
10:32 We are also saw just in Canada, there were some protesters,
10:35 a truckers protest, and anyone that was arrested,
10:39 I think they had their bank accounts frozen.
10:42 And that's kind of unnerving
10:43 to think that everything is digital now.
10:46 And it's so easy for the governments
10:49 to monitor a person's buying and selling
10:52 that I don't think anyone is shocked to hear
10:55 that the beast power in the last days
10:57 will use some sort of economic sanctions
10:59 on those that do not worship appropriately.
11:03 Now, because you may not be able to buy or sell,
11:06 people are thinking, "Well, we don't know when that is,
11:07 should I run to the hill,
11:09 start planting a garden so that I don't starve?"
11:11 I don't think I would react for that reason
11:15 because people who read these verses 50 years ago,
11:18 or 100 years ago, they could have said,
11:20 "We're gonna run to the Hills and grow our own food."
11:23 There's advantages to country living.
11:25 But I would not move to the country
11:27 because of Revelation 13.
11:29 I think when things get that bad,
11:31 God has always fed His people in those times of trouble.
11:36 So are there good reasons to move it to the country? Yes.
11:40 Should we do it because the day's coming
11:42 when you can't buy or sell?
11:45 Well, I think there'd be advantages to that,
11:47 but I wouldn't make that your first consideration.
11:51 So, you know, I've got a book on that,
11:53 and it's talks about heading to the Hills,
11:57 and some beginners guide to country living.
11:59 So you could go to Amazing Facts.
12:01 And I wrote a little book on country living
12:03 and great benefits.
12:06 But if everybody, if all the Christians
12:08 run to the Hills right now,
12:09 who's gonna do evangelism?
12:11 - You know pastor, talking about country living.
12:14 I think you also have a video.
12:15 I was just watching it the other day, of country living.
12:18 Of course, you've got a place in the country
12:19 and you spent quite a while cutting wood.
12:23 And actually before you went into full time ministry
12:25 and you were selling firewood,
12:27 so you spent a lot of time up in the hills,
12:29 in the mountains and quads-
12:31 - Well, you've been there, it's pretty far out, isn't it?
12:32 - It's pretty neat, yeah, it's out there.
12:34 - Far out, I mean, it is way off the grid.
12:36 - So that is a great video.
12:37 I think it's available on YouTube.
12:39 - Yeah, just go to Doug Batchelor Country Living.
12:41 I'm sure it'll pop up.
12:42 - Yeah, all right, well, thanks for your call Wesley.
12:44 We've got Lonnie listening in Arizona.
12:46 Lonnie, welcome to the program.
12:48 - [Lonnie] Everyone's always afraid of what's gonna happen
12:50 at the judgment seat of Christ.
12:53 And again, if you've died in Christ,
12:55 then you know that your name is in the book of life,
12:57 and all of that and that our sins are washed away.
13:00 You know, as of Isaiah 1:18,
13:06 but my question really is,
13:09 do our dirty laundry and I've heard you say this
13:11 in some of your sermons,
13:14 that it's basically about rewards,
13:16 which I know the both of you gonna embellish on.
13:19 And the thing is that the good and the bad deeds
13:22 they're gonna be aired, but to whom?
13:25 - Well, I think that if you have repented of
13:28 and confessed your sins,
13:30 they are under the blood of the lamb,
13:32 and the Lord will protect us.
13:35 God is not wanting to out us.
13:38 You know, it was Judas
13:40 who finally turned away from the Lord,
13:43 his sins of stealing and everything were made manifest.
13:47 But I think the Lord is looking to protect
13:51 and to wash away and treat as innocent
13:53 those that repent of and confess and turn from their sins.
13:57 He's not, they don't come before them into judgment
14:00 because Jesus is really being judged for those things.
14:04 - And you know,
14:06 there's two things being blotted out of the books of record.
14:08 If you're a believer, but you turn away from God,
14:12 then your name gets blotted out of the lambs book of life.
14:14 But if you're a believer and you remain faithful to God,
14:17 then your sins get blotted out.
14:19 Or at least to the book of sin in heaven.
14:20 And that's a good thing.
14:22 So when we are forgiven at the end of that judgment,
14:24 the sins all cleanse the book, so to speak are cleansed,
14:27 the record of sins removed.
14:28 So that's good news.
14:29 No one's gonna be up there in heaven
14:31 during the thousand years, you know,
14:32 thumbing through the book and saying,
14:33 "Oh, look what he did, oh, look what she did."
14:36 No, the sins of the righteous they're blotted out.
14:38 - That's why you've got that robe of righteousness.
14:41 It's a covering.
14:42 - That's right, absolutely, very good.
14:43 - Thank you, good question.
14:44 - We've got Caleb listening from New York.
14:46 Caleb, welcome to the program.
14:49 - [Caleb] Hello, thank you, Pastor Doug
14:50 and Pastor Ross.
14:52 How you guys doing?
14:53 - Good.
14:55 - [Caleb] Oh, by the way, Pastor Doug,
14:56 I love your sermon on Saturday on Sampson.
15:00 - Oh, praise the Lord.
15:02 Glad you enjoyed that.
15:04 - [Calab] My question is for you is
15:09 I'm going through a lot of problems right now,
15:12 like mentally and stuff like that.
15:14 I haven't been praying and spending time on the Bible.
15:21 And am I like, what can I do to get back?
15:26 Or am I already doing like,
15:29 oh, God's Spirit has left me.
15:30 Is that why I'm not like, you know-
15:34 - Well, first of all,
15:35 don't think that you're doomed.
15:37 You probably wouldn't be calling if you were doomed.
15:39 The Holy Spirit's still working with you.
15:41 Every believer has ups and downs.
15:45 You know, life has ups and downs.
15:47 The weather has ups and downs.
15:49 There are days the sun is shining through
15:50 and there are days that the clouds obscure the sun.
15:53 The sun is still there,
15:55 but the earth rotates and the sun is hidden
15:57 and the storms come and the sun is hidden,
15:59 but the sun is still there.
16:00 God, He loves you and it's consistent.
16:04 You can make a decision to love the Lord and say,
16:06 "I'm committing myself to the Lord."
16:08 That doesn't mean there aren't gonna be ups and downs.
16:10 When you get married,
16:12 you make a covenant, you make a commitment,
16:13 there're gonna be ups and downs in your marriage,
16:16 but you're still,
16:18 you've got that unconditional love and that commitment.
16:20 And so, yeah, don't be discouraged.
16:23 Now, you may need to rediscover that first love.
16:27 There may be things you need to do to reignite your faith
16:30 and faithfulness, spend time in prayer, repent of your sins,
16:36 you know, repent and turn from your sins,
16:38 ask the Lord for His grace and as soon as you do that,
16:41 He'll send the refreshing of His Spirit again.
16:44 So, and every believer may have to do that a thousand times
16:48 or more in their experience
16:51 that we often seem to sometimes go through ups and downs.
16:55 There are highs and lows.
16:56 That's just part of life.
16:58 It's also part of the Christian life.
16:59 Do not think it means that God has abandoned you.
17:03 - You know, the Bible tells us in 2 Corinthians 5:6,
17:06 "That we walk by faith, not by sight."
17:09 So what that means
17:10 is you might not always feel a certain way.
17:12 Doesn't mean God is abandoned you,
17:14 but we walk by faith trusting in His word.
17:16 Even if you don't necessarily feel any different
17:19 or feel differently, we take God at His word.
17:22 - That's right, amen.
17:23 - Okay, next caller that we have is Connor
17:24 listening from Colorado.
17:25 Connor, welcome to the program.
17:28 - [Connor] Hello pastors, how are you guys doing?
17:30 - Good, thanks for calling.
17:34 - [Connor] Thank you, my question is
17:35 kind of similar to the last one,
17:37 but I was just wondering how a person would know
17:40 if they've committed the unpardonable sin?
17:43 - All right, first, when we hang up request the free book,
17:48 we'll send you a book on that.
17:49 We get this question a lot.
17:51 And you know, one of the most frightening things
17:54 that Jesus said is that
17:56 "All manner of sin and blaspheme can be forgiven,
17:59 but he that sins against the Holy Spirit,
18:01 or blasphemes the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven."
18:04 And people go, "Wow, there is an unforgivable sin.
18:07 I wonder if I've committed that sin?"
18:10 And 99.99% of the people that worry about that have not.
18:16 Of course, no one knows the heart, but God,
18:17 but sometimes we're convicted by the Holy Spirit
18:23 to turn from our sins.
18:24 We think, "Well, maybe I've gone too far."
18:26 The devil often wants us to think we've gone too far.
18:29 There's a story in the book of Zachariah,
18:31 I believe it's chapter three,
18:33 where the high priest is wearing filthy garments,
18:35 and the devil is there accusing,
18:37 he's basically saying, you know,
18:38 "he can't be saved, he's gone too far."
18:40 When Michael comes to resurrect Moses,
18:43 the devil is there saying, "Oh, Moses sinned,
18:45 you can't take him to heaven."
18:47 So the devil is the accuser of the brethren.
18:49 He often wants us to think we've gone too far.
18:53 If we're willing to repent and turn to God,
18:55 God is willing to forgive.
18:57 Grieving away the Holy Spirit
18:58 is not something that happens
19:00 through usually one particular sin,
19:02 but it's a process of years of rejection of God's Spirit.
19:07 So that the volume of the Holy Spirit goes down
19:09 where we just don't even hear it anymore.
19:12 Examples of those who committed the unpardonable sin
19:14 in the Bible would be Balaam, King Saul, Judas.
19:18 I mean, they just, they you know, Judas,
19:21 what do you call it?
19:23 The Saul went to a witch and God stopped speaking to him,
19:25 but it was 40 years of rebellion that preceded that.
19:30 And it was three and a half years of Judas
19:32 sinning in the face of God's own son teaching.
19:35 God is very patient.
19:37 So don't be discouraged and do send for that free book
19:39 about what is the unpardonable sin.
19:42 - You know, we also have a book pastor,
19:43 that our previous caller,
19:44 we probably should have mentioned it at that point too.
19:46 It's called "12 Steps to Revival."
19:48 Talking about how do you rekindle that love for God,
19:50 that first faith and we'll be happy to send that as well.
19:53 If you'd like to receive either of these books
19:55 or both of them, the number to call is 800-835-6747.
19:59 You can ask for the book, "What is the Unpardonable Sin?"
20:02 You can also ask for the book, "12 Steps to Revival."
20:05 And if your north America will be happy to send it to you.
20:08 Next caller that we have is Andrew listening in Kansas.
20:11 Andrew, welcome to the program.
20:14 - [Andrew] Hi Doug. Hi Ross.
20:17 How are you guys doing?
20:18 - Good, thank you for calling.
20:20 - [Andrew] My question is, God is only one God
20:23 and I got brought this question
20:25 and I don't know how to answer it.
20:27 And so God the Son is our God too.
20:30 So they're trying to tell me that there's two gods.
20:35 - Yeah, I know people get,
20:37 that's a common and a normal misunderstanding.
20:42 When it tells us in the book of Deuteronomy chapter six,
20:45 "Hear O Israel, the Lord God is one."
20:48 And the Bible says several times,
20:49 "There is one God."
20:51 In the Hebrew mind, the way they use the word one
20:54 is not always talking about numerical quantity.
20:58 It's talking about unity.
21:00 Jesus prayed to the Father and He said in John 17,
21:03 "Father, I pray that they", meaning the 12 apostles,
21:06 "I pray they may be one."
21:08 Well, there's 12 of them, but He wanted them to be united.
21:11 He said, "Father, I pray they may be one
21:13 even as You and I are one."
21:16 So Jesus was not asking the 12 apostles
21:18 to merge into one person.
21:20 He was asking for them to be of one Spirit,
21:22 to be united as Jesus and the Father and the Spirit
21:26 are united.
21:27 And so all of the pagan religions, many of them anyway,
21:32 they were polytheistic, they had many gods.
21:35 The God of the Bible, it's a one united God.
21:39 And so that God, in the beginning, God says,
21:42 "Let Us make man in Our image."
21:45 It's plural.
21:46 So right from the beginning of the Bible,
21:48 we know that God is composed of a united God,
21:51 meaning one in the Spirit, in unity and purpose.
21:56 And it's, I know it's somewhat mysterious,
21:58 but it's composed of three unique persons.
22:01 God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
22:04 And we have a book we can send you on that.
22:05 That deals with "One God or Three, is the Trinity Biblical?"
22:09 - The number to call is 800-835-6747.
22:12 You can ask for the book it's called "One God or Three?"
22:16 What is the Bible teach about the Trinity?
22:18 Of course, the word Trinity, pastor not found in the Bible,
22:20 but the idea of the three members of the Godhead,
22:24 the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, that is very biblical,
22:26 and we find that throughout scripture.
22:28 So be sure to call and ask for that book.
22:30 You will be blessed.
22:31 Next caller that we have is Linda listening in Missouri.
22:34 Linda, welcome to the program.
22:37 - [Linda] Praise God.
22:38 I just first before asking my question,
22:40 I just wanted to let you know that both you, Doug and Jean,
22:44 that because of you guys,
22:46 you're both gonna have an extra crown,
22:48 or extra star on your crown
22:50 because you guys both lead me to Christ,
22:54 and the fullness of everything.
22:56 And I just wanted to thank you both on that.
22:59 My question is about the Amplified Bible.
23:02 And what do you think about it,
23:04 is for a good main Bible or a study Bible?
23:09 - Yeah, for our friends that are listening,
23:11 the Amplified Bible is a Bible
23:13 that and correct me if I'm wrong, Linda,
23:15 but I think it's,
23:16 you're talking about the Bible
23:17 that's got a verse,
23:18 but it'll have like four translations of each verse.
23:23 - [Linda] Yeah, it says,
23:25 "For the behind the original Greek and Hebrew."
23:28 - Yeah, well, I guess there's a few Amplified Bibles,
23:31 but the one I'm thinking of
23:33 as it goes through the different verses,
23:34 you'll see each verse
23:36 will have different versions of that verse.
23:39 So you can amplify each verse a little more
23:42 and it shows you some, yes,
23:43 some expound more on the Greek and the Hebrew,
23:45 but it's a great study Bible.
23:48 So if you want to dig deeper into each verse
23:51 and look at it through the eyes of different translators
23:54 to get little nuances,
23:55 most of 'em say exactly the same thing,
23:57 but you often get little nuances and insights
24:00 through different words.
24:01 It expands your understanding.
24:03 Nothing wrong with looking at the Amplified Bible
24:06 as a study Bible.
24:07 - Well, you know, I think there's also an Amplified Bible,
24:10 if I'm not mistaken, which is a paraphrase
24:13 where they will take an English version,
24:14 and they'll confer with the Greek and Hebrew,
24:16 but they'll take an English Bible,
24:18 and they would they'll write the verse
24:20 using different words and maybe expand on different ideas.
24:23 So there is a difference between an actual translation
24:27 and a paraphrase.
24:28 So we just wanna be aware of that.
24:30 Translation is a direct translation of the original text.
24:33 Sometimes the word order is change just a little,
24:35 but a paraphrase is somebody adding some flavor,
24:39 you might say, or an angle or perspective,
24:41 or putting it in different language
24:43 for people to understand.
24:46 - [Linda] That definitely helps me so much.
24:49 Thank you very much.
24:50 And you two have a wonderful evening.
24:52 - All right, God bless.
24:53 Thank you.
24:54 - Next caller that we have is Pat
24:56 listening in Colorado.
24:57 Pat, welcome to the program.
25:00 - [Pat] Thank you very much.
25:02 My question is, Jesus is called the first born of God.
25:08 And why is Jesus called the first born of God
25:11 before He was born human on earth?
25:15 - Where are you talking about?
25:17 What verse?
25:19 - [Linda] I didn't get the verse written down.
25:23 It's always said,
25:24 "Jesus is the first born of God
25:26 and we're adopted into the family of God.
25:30 - Right, well, Jesus is the,
25:31 He's the only begotten Son.
25:33 He is called the first born.
25:35 It's not because He was the first human born.
25:39 You know, of course God made man in His own image,
25:41 but the only time that God became a human was in Christ.
25:48 And so, you know, He has preeminence because of that.
25:51 In the book of Hebrews also tells us.
25:53 But again, I don't think that it's talking about
25:57 the first born as in sequence.
25:59 Now, when you talk about,
26:00 well, let me back up and correct myself.
26:04 In the Hebrew,
26:05 the first born son had a special inheritance right,
26:09 and he was given special privileges.
26:11 In that sense, Jesus spiritually is the first born.
26:15 He receives those special inheritance rights.
26:17 He's the greatest among the son, so to speak.
26:20 But obviously, Jesus wasn't the first time
26:23 that a human was born.
26:25 So I guess we got about 25 seconds till the break,
26:28 Pastor Ross anything you want to add to that?
26:30 - Yes, I mean,
26:32 there is a phrase in the Old Testament
26:33 that seems to indicate or a reference to the first born,
26:35 it's usually messianic and it's pointing to Jesus,
26:38 and the fact that He would come,
26:39 and He would be considered the first born
26:41 in position and rank because it's through Him
26:43 that anyone else is saved.
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30:18 We're gonna go to Damon in Oklahoma City.
30:20 Damon, welcome into the program.
30:22 - [Damon] Hello pastors, good evening.
30:24 - Evening,
30:26 and your question.
30:28 - [Damon] Yes sir, yes, sir.
30:29 Thank you.
30:30 So I've been trying to confirm the Holy Spirit
30:33 and the Godhead a little bit more,
30:35 and I've been reading some scriptures.
30:37 I'm getting a little, I get a little confused.
30:40 Is the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of God,
30:44 two different things or is it one in the same?
30:48 - Well, I can't imagine a case
30:50 where someone would receive the Spirit of God
30:52 without the Holy Spirit.
30:54 So the Holy Spirit is the one.
30:57 And sometimes in King James, it calls it the Holy Ghost,
31:00 the same word we don't,
31:03 today we think of ghost as a, you know, spook or something,
31:06 but it's really the Spirit of God.
31:09 And when it says, "The Spirit of the Lord came on Sampson
31:12 or the Spirit of the Lord came on David,
31:14 or they were baptized in the Holy Spirit",
31:16 the Bible says, "There's one Lord, one faith, one Spirit."
31:20 And so it would be the same.
31:23 - [Damon] So like, when it says like the breath,
31:25 like when it, for instance,
31:26 when it says, "God breathes the Spirit",
31:28 which is like the ruach, the breath.
31:32 - Oh, now I see what you're talking about now.
31:34 Now that is a little different, you know,
31:37 when it's talking about the breath of life
31:41 that is talking about the air of life,
31:44 and of course it's even there,
31:45 it's the Spirit of God that is infused in a person.
31:48 But the word really is breath like when you breathe.
31:51 And when it tells us in Genesis, "God breathe into Adam."
31:54 And that word in Hebrew is ruach,
31:57 in Greek it's the word pneuma,
31:58 which is where we get pneumatic tools,
32:00 tools that run on air,
32:01 or pneumonia, it's a sickness of the air or the breathing.
32:07 So that's the word pneuma,
32:09 that's talking about the wind or the air.
32:12 And sometimes that's interchangeable with the word spirit.
32:16 It depends on the context.
32:17 - You know, these different symbols
32:19 used for the Holy Spirit in the Bible.
32:20 You have wind, as you mentioned, pastor.
32:22 Also, fire is a symbol of the Holy Spirit at times.
32:25 And then also water can symbolize the Holy Spirit.
32:28 So you've got these different symbols
32:30 that appear in the Bible.
32:31 But it's illustrating or pointing forward
32:33 to the Holy Spirit.
32:35 - Yeah, we've got a book
32:36 we'd be happy to share with Damon.
32:37 That's dealing with the Holy Spirit
32:39 and it talks about the need of the Holy Spirit.
32:42 And this goes into
32:43 some of the definitions of the spirit there.
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33:05 We have Jesus listening in Florida.
33:07 Jesus, welcome to the program.
33:10 - [Jesus] Hello pastors.
33:11 Thank you for taking my answer my question.
33:15 So my question comes from 1 Corinthians 7:12.
33:20 I was doing a little bit of study,
33:21 'cause I've been going along
33:22 with like the yearly Bible study plan
33:24 that you guys have, but I'm a little delayed.
33:27 And the question is pertaining to when it says,
33:31 "But to the rest I not the Lord say
33:34 if any brother has a wife."
33:36 Practically Paul saying that he not the Lord is advising.
33:45 I guess you could say like the Corinthian church.
33:47 I wanted to know what are your guys' thoughts?
33:50 - Yeah, I think Paul is taking a humble approach here.
33:53 He's giving some counsel to the church.
33:56 He's also giving counsel to a particular church
34:00 and he's saying,
34:02 "Look, I'm not giving this to you as a command from God
34:03 but my judgment."
34:04 And Paul actually uses that word other times.
34:06 He says, "In my judgment" and he's disqualifing.
34:09 He said, "This is my judgment."
34:11 Now of course he is an apostle inspired by God.
34:13 So his judgment, he probably underrated his own judgment.
34:17 But yeah, he's talking about this situation.
34:20 If a man's got a woman she doesn't believe,
34:23 and she's willing to stay with her, he's saying,
34:25 "Let her not divorce him."
34:27 Now, this is actually a position of most churches
34:29 that believers should not divorce their unbelieving spouses,
34:34 'cause marriage is a sacred union.
34:37 And Paul said, "Who knows?
34:38 You might be able to convert your unbelieving spouse."
34:41 Peter reinforces this when he says,
34:43 and I think it's 1 Peter chapter three,
34:45 where he says that "The unbelieving husband can be converted
34:50 by the chaste behavior of the believing wife."
34:53 And so it's a principle
34:54 that I think is a scriptural principle.
34:57 Paul, he seems to approach it with some humility saying,
35:02 "You know, in my opinion."
35:03 Does that help?
35:05 - [Jesus] Yeah, definitely, thank you.
35:07 - Yeah and by the way, we do have a book
35:08 on marriage, divorce and remarriage,
35:11 and we do address this issue in that book.
35:14 - The number to call again is 800-835-6747.
35:17 That is the resource phone line.
35:19 You can ask for the book called
35:20 "Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage",
35:22 and we'll send that to anyone who calls and asks.
35:25 We've got Matthew listening in Toronto.
35:27 Matthew, welcome to the program.
35:30 - [Matthew] Hi pastor, thanks for taking my call.
35:32 Based on Genesis one.
35:34 The Bible says, "God made male and female."
35:37 So my question is,
35:39 is it okay for me to change from male to female
35:46 and God still love me and can I be saved in God's kingdom?
35:49 - Well, God, you know,
35:51 people often do sinful things and God is a God of love.
35:57 So the Bible says,
35:58 "What can separate us from the love of God?"
36:00 God loves us.
36:01 Can a person continue in known sin
36:04 whatever that sin is and still be saved? No.
36:08 If we don't repent of our sins, we can't be saved.
36:10 So now then the other question is,
36:12 is it a sin for a person to try to change themselves
36:16 from male to female?
36:17 I believe it is.
36:19 I think the Bible tells us
36:20 that God makes a person for one thing,
36:22 it's biologically impossible.
36:24 It doesn't matter how many procedures
36:26 and chemicals and hormones you receive,
36:28 the differences between men and women
36:30 go all the way to the genetic level.
36:32 And you are born either one or the other.
36:35 I know there are some rare cases
36:37 of people that have some deformities when they're born,
36:39 but the very genes,
36:42 the X and the Y chromosomes in male and female are different
36:45 that cannot be changed.
36:47 You know, I think there was just an interesting ruling
36:49 that was made.
36:50 Everyone was aware in the news,
36:52 how there was a certain male swimmer
36:55 who went through, you know,
36:57 the outward change to try to be transformed into a female.
37:00 And as a male swimmer, he was a mediocre,
37:03 but as a female swimmer, suddenly he began to just,
37:06 you know, break all the records,
37:07 and all the girls began to protest.
37:09 Well, first they were afraid to
37:10 'cause it was politically incorrect
37:11 and he began to protest and said,
37:13 "This just no way we can compete.
37:15 This is not fair.
37:16 He is physiologically a male,
37:17 the surgeries don't change things."
37:19 And now the sports board that governs that department
37:24 has agreed and they said,
37:25 "Someone who has entered puberty as a male,
37:29 they cannot compete as a female."
37:30 Of course, I don't think they should ever at any point.
37:33 But so I'm meandering to answer your question.
37:36 God made them male and female.
37:38 The Lord does not want,
37:39 a male should not dress like a female, the Bible says,
37:43 and that's in Deuteronomy, I think it's 18.
37:46 A male should not dress or maybe it's Deuteronomy 22,
37:49 "A man should not put on a woman's garment
37:51 or a woman put on a man's garment,
37:53 for all that do so are an abomination unto the Lord."
37:56 If God made you a man celebrate how God made you,
37:59 or if He made you a woman be thankful and celebrate
38:01 and live that out, that's God's plan.
38:05 - All right, well, thanks for your call Matthew.
38:07 Next caller that we have is Steve in New York.
38:10 Steve, welcome to the program.
38:12 - [Steve] My question involves Joshua chapter six
38:15 and in Joshua chapter six, the Lord instructs Joshua
38:18 to take the men of war and some priests
38:21 to march around Jericho.
38:24 And they were to do that seven days.
38:26 So my question is one of those seven days
38:28 would've been the Sabbath.
38:30 And I'm just wondering why God would've instructed them
38:35 to march on the Sabbath doing that.
38:39 Or was it again, maybe not common,
38:43 but not unusual for Israel to go into battles
38:47 even when it was the Sabbath day?
38:50 - Yeah. Good question.
38:51 All right, so in the story of Joshua,
38:53 it says, "You're to march around the city six times,
38:56 or a six days, once,
38:58 seventh day, seven times,
39:00 he's not talking about the seventh day of the week.
39:01 He means the seventh day of marching,
39:03 but your point is still good.
39:05 That that would mean if there's seven sequential days
39:07 in marching around Jericho,
39:08 one of those seven must have been the Sabbath.
39:12 Well, if God tells His army to go march around a city
39:16 and blow trumpets,
39:18 that's really just a Sabbath walk and special music.
39:21 There's nothing in there that's really forbidden in itself.
39:25 They're not actually going to war,
39:27 but even among the Israelites,
39:30 if they were attacked by their enemies
39:32 on the Sabbath day, and that happens to modern Israel.
39:35 Several of the wars have been launched by Islamic enemies
39:39 on Friday, thinking that the Jews
39:42 would be the least prepared.
39:46 When Pearl Harbor happened, it was not an accident
39:49 the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on a Sunday morning,
39:53 they knew it would be the day of rest
39:55 for the people in the city,
39:56 and that they would be the least prone
39:58 to preparation for fighting.
40:00 But the Jews, as other armies,
40:03 they realize an army needs to be equipped all the time
40:06 and prepared all the time.
40:08 And even the Jews had people who were a Watchman
40:10 in the temple, on the Sabbath.
40:12 So, it's not a sin for a Jewish army or Sabbath keepers
40:19 to defend themselves if they're attacked on the Sabbath day.
40:22 There were some wars that the Jews fought
40:23 that lasted for years and obviously,
40:27 they didn't take every Saturday off.
40:29 So when there's defending the cities.
40:33 - All right, thank you, Steve.
40:35 Next caller that we have is Jesse listening in Colorado.
40:38 Jesse, welcome to the program.
40:41 - [Jesse] Hi.
40:42 - Hi.
40:44 - [Jesse] So my question deals with Revelation 17,
40:50 who is the lady and I have an opinion on it already,
40:53 but I just want to hear what you guys say.
40:55 - Yeah, Revelation 17
40:56 is that chapter that identifies this woman
40:59 who's called, Mystery Babylon the Great,
41:01 the mother of harlots and abomination of the earth.
41:05 Says "That she's got many daughters."
41:07 Well, I think the key to answer that question.
41:09 This is a prophecy that was written by John.
41:12 John is a captive in Rome when he writes the prophecy
41:15 and he says in verse 18,
41:17 that's the last verse in chapter 17.
41:19 "The woman who you saw is that great city
41:22 that reigns over the Kings of the earth."
41:24 What city was raining over the Kings of the earth
41:27 when John wrote Revelation?
41:30 - [Jesse] So I would say Rome, right?
41:31 - Correct.
41:33 So a woman in prophecy is an allegory of what?
41:37 - [Jesse] I have really no clue.
41:38 - Okay, well, the Bible says,
41:40 "Husbands love your wives as Christ loves the church."
41:42 And sometimes God's church has been unfaithful.
41:45 So here you have an unfaithful woman in Rome
41:48 that becomes a very powerful,
41:50 that gets involved in intrigue and adultery
41:55 with the Kings of the earth.
41:56 The only church that can fit this description
41:59 would be the Roman Catholic church.
42:00 And by the way,
42:02 that's not pastor Doug or Pastor Ross.
42:03 This is what was said by Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon,
42:09 John Wesley, John Calvin, all the Protestant reformers,
42:14 and many, matter of fact,
42:17 even I think it was even Pope Gregory the Great
42:19 who said, "Any man that calls the office of the Pope
42:23 to be, you know, the head of the church",
42:25 he says, "he is antichrist."
42:27 So yeah, this is identifying the Roman Catholic church
42:34 says, "The woman sits among seven Hills."
42:35 Rome is the city of seven Hills.
42:38 So I think it's pretty clear.
42:40 - You know, we got a study guide called "The Other Woman",
42:42 and it's talking about this description
42:44 we find in Revelation chapter 17.
42:46 We'll be happy to send this to you,
42:48 Jesse or anyone wanting to learn more
42:49 about this very important chapter
42:52 that we find in the last book of the Bible.
42:54 You can just call and ask,
42:55 ask for the study guide.
42:56 It's called, "The Other Woman", it's on Revelation 17.
42:58 The number to call is 800-835-6747.
43:02 And again, ask for the study guide called "The Other Woman".
43:06 Our next caller that we have is Keith
43:08 listening in Louisiana.
43:12 Keith, welcome to the program.
43:14 - [Keith] Can you explain 1 Peter 3:18-20?
43:23 - It says, "For Christ suffered once for sins,
43:25 the just for the unjust that He might bring us to God,
43:28 being put to death in the flesh,
43:29 but made alive by the Spirit,
43:31 by whom", talking about by the Spirit.
43:33 "He also went and preached to the spirits in prison
43:36 who formally were disobedient
43:38 when once the divine long suffering waited
43:40 in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared."
43:43 It's talking about the divine long suffering.
43:46 It's talking about the spirit.
43:47 Peter is referring back to Genesis chapter six,
43:51 and I think it's verse three where God says,
43:52 "My Spirit will not always strive with man,
43:56 but his days will be 120 years."
43:59 So it was the same Spirit that rose Jesus from the dead.
44:02 That spirit strove with unbelievers back in the days of Noah
44:06 and spoke to those who are imprisoned by sin.
44:10 It's not saying that when Jesus died on the cross,
44:13 that He went to a dungeon somewhere
44:15 to give special second chance treatment to people
44:18 that live before the flood.
44:20 And this is, you know what some people have taught,
44:22 but Bible doesn't teach that.
44:24 Is that kind of what you were wondering?
44:27 - [Keith] Yes, sir, yes.
44:28 Especially that part was a bit troubling
44:32 about the spirits in prison.
44:35 So yeah, that does make more sense.
44:37 - The key to understanding that
44:39 is you go to Genesis 6:3.
44:41 God said, "My Spirit will not always strive with man."
44:44 This was written before the flood.
44:46 This is the Spirit, the long suffering of God.
44:49 "For 120 years", it says, "they would have
44:51 from the time that God called Noah until the flood came,
44:54 and God spoke to the spirits in prison",
44:57 by the devil meaning, "in prison by sin."
45:00 - All right. Thanks for call.
45:02 We've got Reasoner listening from North Carolina.
45:05 Reasoner, welcome to the program.
45:06 - [Reasoner] Hey, thanks Pastor Doug, Pastor Ross.
45:10 I got two questions.
45:12 First of all, can you read Matthew 5:20 please?
45:16 - All right, you got it, Jean.
45:18 You wanna read it?
45:19 - Yes.
45:20 "For I say to you, unless your righteousness succeeds
45:21 the righteousness of the Scribes and Pharisees,
45:24 you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven."
45:27 - [Reasoner] Okay, thanks.
45:29 Now, first question is simply this.
45:31 If Christ were here now, dispensing free education,
45:35 free medicine, free food.
45:37 He fed the crowd for free, His charity and generosity.
45:41 Could you see Him being branded as a socialist?
45:44 That's the first question.
45:46 - Okay, well, no, you know, of course,
45:49 how would He be branded?
45:51 They, everybody branded Jesus pretty poorly.
45:53 Both the legalists and the liberals,
45:56 the Sadducees and the Pharisees didn't care much for Jesus.
46:00 Jesus freely dispensing.
46:03 He was not freely dispensing from a government.
46:06 He was personally freely dispensing.
46:08 He was encouraging believers to dispense,
46:11 not compulsory gifts and taxation.
46:15 In other words, America started out
46:19 where the government depended on the goodness
46:22 and the Christianity of people
46:24 to care for the poor, the hospitals, the orphanages,
46:27 they weren't run by the government.
46:28 They were run by the Christians.
46:30 But as time went by, the government said,
46:32 "Well, we can't trust you to be good.
46:33 So we're gonna take the money from you and we'll run it."
46:36 That's a whole different system
46:37 than what Christ really was setting up.
46:40 - Well, you know, pastor, I'm thinking of another verse.
46:41 It's clear, the Bible does talk about
46:43 our responsibility as believers to help those in need.
46:46 And that is the poor.
46:48 But on the other hand,
46:49 you do find a principle that we read about
46:51 in 2 Thessalonians three,
46:53 this is not the only place,
46:55 but the principle is simply this
46:56 "The one who does not work, shall neither eat."
47:00 In other words, we need to work.
47:02 It's not a good thing for us not to do what we can
47:05 to support ourselves and our family.
47:07 If we claim that we don't wanna work
47:09 and we just want to get handouts, well, we lazy.
47:13 It's contrary to what the Bible says.
47:14 - That's spiritual.
47:15 - So, there is a balance.
47:16 We need to be industrious.
47:18 We need to do our best.
47:19 The Bible says, "Whatever your hand finds to do,
47:21 do it with all your might."
47:23 But there are people that get sick.
47:25 There are people that suffer, need.
47:27 And as believers, we want to be aware of that.
47:29 And we want to help people.
47:30 It's a different structure that you see
47:32 than what's being promoted today
47:34 in different political circles.
47:36 - So you guys, you had two parts to your question.
47:38 What was the second part?
47:40 - [Reasoner] Okay, the second question is simply this,
47:42 the Pharisees were more old line stand pat, traditional,
47:46 staunchity, okay.
47:48 That when Saul got his name changed to Paul,
47:53 did he leave the party of the Pharisees?
47:57 - Well, he must have,
47:58 because I think Paul says,
47:59 "I was a Pharisee of the Pharisees."
48:02 And so he speaks of it in past tense.
48:05 Of course, I don't know if that's by his choice
48:07 or if they evicted him,
48:08 but he considered himself a Pharisee.
48:11 He had to abandon some of the teachings of the Pharisees
48:14 'cause the majority of the Pharisees rejected Jesus.
48:17 - And of course the Pharisees fundamentally
48:19 the theology was righteous by works.
48:22 And so Paul, you know, becomes Paul but he was Saul,
48:27 him being a Pharisee of the Pharisees,
48:29 he was very careful to observe every little tradition
48:33 that was created, trying to be righteous.
48:35 And then of course he discovered the truth of the gospel
48:37 and realized righteous comes by faith in Christ,
48:39 not as a result of works.
48:42 All right. Well thank you for your call.
48:43 We've got Joseph listening in California.
48:45 Joseph, welcome to the program.
48:48 - [Joseph] Hello pastors, how are you guys doing?
48:50 - Doing great. Thank you for calling.
48:53 - [Joseph] Yeah, first of all,
48:54 I want to thank you guys for your ministry.
48:55 I've learned a lot from listening to you guys' programs.
49:00 My question is, what are your thoughts on home church?
49:05 And does the Bible say anything against it?
49:08 - Well, you see a lot of examples in the Bible
49:11 of people meeting in homes in the early days of the church.
49:15 If you look in the book of Acts, you know,
49:18 of course Christ first met them in a home church,
49:20 an upper room.
49:22 The last supper was in what you would call a home church,
49:24 an upper room.
49:25 The resurrection and the early Bible studies.
49:28 The Holy Spirit being poured out.
49:30 This was all done in homes.
49:32 There were not formally dedicated church buildings
49:35 with a more public nature.
49:37 And so I personally think,
49:40 I know Pastor Ross agrees,
49:41 that the strength of any church
49:43 is gonna be not just what happens once a week
49:45 in the building,
49:47 but in the homes and in small groups.
49:51 Because that's where we really build relationships.
49:53 And you can have more intimate times of prayer
49:56 and know the people and know how to pray for them.
49:59 We learn how to get along and love each other better.
50:01 It's sometimes easier in a big church.
50:03 You can come in and go out
50:04 and not really get involved with people,
50:06 but you don't always learn how to love.
50:08 So yeah, I think that,
50:11 I think the strength of even the modern church
50:13 is very important to be involved in home groups.
50:16 Now, I wouldn't abandon the corporate getting together
50:19 or maybe a more traditional facility,
50:24 but certainly nothing wrong biblically with the home church.
50:28 - I think we even find in the Bible, for example,
50:30 Colossians 4:15,
50:31 when Christians were facing opposition and persecution,
50:34 not only from the religious leaders in Jerusalem,
50:37 but the Romans as well.
50:39 There were groups that met in homes and they were churches.
50:42 Colossians 4:15 says,
50:43 "Greet the brethren who are in Laodicea and Nympha,
50:47 and the church that is in his house."
50:49 So his house served as a gathering place for believers.
50:53 And that was, you might say a home church, but again,
50:56 that was the time of persecution.
50:57 Christianity was spreading
51:00 in a place of relative ease or peace.
51:02 There's nothing wrong in building a building
51:04 dedicated just to the worship of God
51:06 where believers can gather together
51:07 and worship on a regular basis.
51:10 - You know, I think one of the best verses
51:11 in that Pastor Ross is in Acts 2:46,
51:14 "For continuing daily, with one accord in the temple",
51:18 that was the public place, "and breaking bread
51:21 from house to house", meaning getting together,
51:24 studying as well as eating.
51:26 "They ate their food with gladness
51:27 and simplicity of heart, praising God."
51:30 So I think really a healthy church needs both.
51:33 - Absolutely next caller that we have is Steve
51:36 listening Canada, Steve, welcome to the program.
51:39 - [Steve] Good evening, gentlemen,
51:41 thank you very much for everything that you do.
51:43 Like I learned as well as many people
51:45 to try to walk the narrow path with our savior.
51:48 I was wondering the 1/3rd of angels who became demons
51:50 as you referred as made by pastor Doug Batchelor
51:54 that cause conflict in the movie as well.
51:57 Are they have this mentality mindset
51:59 that he's weakness from the two weakness
52:01 where I understood that he's jealous and proud.
52:04 Do they have this character?
52:06 And one and the following,
52:08 if you don't mind just asking me,
52:10 us when we are in Christ,
52:12 we become in the image of Christ as our character.
52:14 But once when we seen like Judas, Saul that you quoted,
52:20 or they became in the character of Lucifer,
52:23 or Satan the devil,
52:24 as they are also have this jealousy and proud in them,
52:28 that is his character.
52:29 Can we inherit his image,
52:31 his character of Satan, what I'm saying,
52:33 just like we can get the character of God?
52:36 - Okay, so when the angels that were deceived by Lucifer,
52:42 when they fell and chose to follow Lucifer in his rebellion,
52:46 they began to take on the characteristics of Lucifer,
52:49 which were pride and selfishness.
52:52 And of course the human race.
52:54 When we fell into sin through our first parents,
52:57 our love nature was damaged
52:59 and we became very selfish creatures.
53:01 So I think that, I dunno,
53:03 Pastor Ross had seemed to me that everybody that,
53:06 unless we're converted and born again,
53:07 people are motivated by selfishness and pride
53:11 and we need to have our image transformed.
53:17 You know, all old things passed away,
53:18 all things made new, we're being conformed
53:20 into the image of His Son.
53:22 And so that is the plan of salvation.
53:24 - You know at the end of time pastor,
53:26 two groups of people are described
53:27 in the book of Revelation.
53:28 Those with the mark of the beast.
53:29 And those with the seal of God.
53:31 Those with the seal of God,
53:32 they reflect the character of God.
53:35 Those with the mark of the beast
53:36 they reflect the character or the image of the beast,
53:39 meaning pride, selfishness.
53:41 So yes, as we surrender to the Spirit of God,
53:44 as we seek God to guide and work within us,
53:46 He creates a new person by faith,
53:50 little by little it's called sanctification.
53:52 Absolutely.
53:53 If we reject that though,
53:54 we are setting ourselves up
53:56 to reflect more and more the devil.
53:58 - That's right.
53:59 You know, when we have a Bible lesson that talk,
54:01 well, first of all,
54:02 our caller asked about the "Cosmic Conflict" DVD.
54:05 If you wanna know more about this rebellion,
54:07 where did sin come from?
54:10 If God is more powerful than the devil,
54:12 then if God is good and if He's loving,
54:14 why doesn't He destroy the devil?
54:16 Did He make a devil?
54:17 Why is there evil in the world if God is good?
54:20 This is the big question a lot of atheists ask.
54:22 They say, "If God's so good, if there's a God,
54:24 why is there innocent people suffering?"
54:27 All of this is answered in that DVD
54:29 called "Cosmic Conflict."
54:31 And you can order that from Amazing Facts,
54:33 or you can probably listen to it for free.
54:35 Everything seems to land on YouTube.
54:37 If you just go to YouTube, I'm quite certain it's there.
54:40 Type in "Cosmic Conflict"
54:41 and that'll really help you understand that.
54:44 Also there's a lesson you can get
54:45 called, "Did God create a devil?"
54:48 How do they get that?
54:49 - The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
54:53 And just simply ask for the study guide
54:55 it's called, "Did God Create a Devil?"
54:58 And pastor we hear the music playing the background,
55:00 but to those listening on satellite
55:02 we can be signing off, but for the rest of you stay by,
55:04 we've got some great internet questions
55:07 that we're gonna be answering.
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55:27 - Hello, friends, welcome back.
55:29 This is our final internet questions
55:31 that have been sent in.
55:33 Pastor Doug, we have about a minute and a half
55:34 to try and answer as many of the questions as we can.
55:37 So we'll get right to it.
55:38 Here's the first one.
55:40 "How can I stay calm when somebody else falsely accuses me?"
55:45 - Well, it's not necessarily a sin
55:47 to feel some indignation when you're falsely accused,
55:50 but I believe that the reason we can find calmness
55:53 is through the Spirit of God.
55:54 Knowing Jesus went through the same thing.
55:56 Look at Christ at His trial,
55:58 how calmly He bore all of the false testimony
56:01 that was hurled at Him.
56:03 So it's not unnatural to feel some righteous indignation,
56:07 but then hopefully you'll find peace
56:09 knowing I can't change that, I can only change me.
56:13 - Next question that we have.
56:14 Why did Jesus cry out, "My God, My God,
56:17 why have You forsaken Me" on the cross
56:19 when He knew what was going on and what was to happen?
56:22 - Well, some people think
56:24 that Jesus reached a point of despair
56:26 when He cried out
56:27 "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?"
56:29 That's actually the first verse in Psalm 22,
56:33 which was a messianic Psalm,
56:35 which they would normally quote from the messianic Psalms
56:38 during the Passover.
56:39 Christ, hanging on the cross, quoted from the Psalm
56:42 that pointed to what He was experiencing.
56:45 And in that very Psalm, it says,
56:48 "They pierced my hands and my feet."
56:50 And people would see Him saying that on the cross.
56:53 And they'd go, "This is the prophecy that tells who He is."
56:57 He was not uttering despair,
56:59 'cause Jesus did not ever lose faith.
57:01 He was basically pointing us
57:02 to the fulfillment of that prophecy.
57:05 - Okay, another question that we have,
57:06 "If I don't know that I'm doing wrong,
57:08 will God judge me for that?"
57:11 - Well, the Bible tells us in the book of Luke,
57:13 "To him who knows his master's will and does not do it
57:16 he will be beaten with many stripes.
57:18 He that did not know and disobeyed is beaten with few."
57:22 You are more accountable for when you know,
57:26 God says, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge,
57:29 because they've rejected knowledge."
57:31 And so there is more accountability when we know God's will.
57:35 Jesus said, "For someone who does not know,
57:37 if you did not know you would have no sin,
57:40 but now that you say you see, your sin remains."
57:42 And that's the gospel of John.
57:44 - Maybe time for one more Pastor Doug.
57:46 "Why didn't Daniel go straight to heaven?"
57:48 - Okay, meaning Daniel the prophet.
57:51 Believe it or not friends,
57:52 there is more than one Daniel in the Bible.
57:54 You know, it's really easier to ask
57:57 why didn't all the other good prophets go right to heaven?
58:00 Like Elijah or Enoch.
58:02 All the other good prophets went to their graves.
58:05 God said, "Daniel, you will sleep until that day
58:08 the last day of the judgment day."
58:10 Friends we are now out of time,
58:12 stay tuned for some important messages.
58:13 We'll study together next week.
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