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In The Father's House

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00:44 Now, here's your host
00:45 from Amazing Facts International,
00:48 Pastor Jean Ross.
00:50 - Hello, friends.
00:51 Pastor Doug Batchelor's away this weekend.
00:53 But this is a live, interactive international Bible study
00:56 and if you have a Bible related question,
00:58 we would love to hear from you this evening.
01:00 But why don't we start the program with an amazing fact.
01:03 The record for hiding away from family and friends
01:06 was made by a young Chinese college student
01:08 by the name of Cheng Lim.
01:10 He was studying engineering at the University of Michigan,
01:13 but was doing very badly in physics and math.
01:16 If his studies did not improve
01:17 he would have to leave school,
01:18 quit his job as the janitor
01:20 at the Ann Arbor First Methodist Church
01:23 and take the humiliating news of his academic failure
01:26 back to his father who was a school teacher in Singapore.
01:30 Finally, one day in October, 1955, Cheng disappeared.
01:36 His friends,
01:37 including the Reverend Eugene Ransom pastor of the church
01:39 called the police, but they found no clues.
01:43 Cheng's Methodist friends had another mystery to ponder,
01:46 strange bumping noises that came out of the church at night.
01:51 Early one morning, four years after Cheng's disappearance,
01:54 a pair of private detectives called by Reverend Ransom
01:57 heard a trap door to the church attic slam.
02:01 Together with the police they climbed up
02:03 and they swept their flashlights across the attic,
02:05 and there crouched above them in the rafters was Cheng.
02:09 For four years, the attic of the church had been his home.
02:13 The bumping noises
02:14 had been Cheng skipping rope to keep in shape.
02:17 During the day, he slept on padding from a pew,
02:20 and at night he walked around the church
02:22 and helped himself to food from the church kitchen.
02:24 Physically, Cheng seemed unaffected
02:27 by his hermits experience,
02:29 but as the police hauled him off to county jail,
02:32 his four year preoccupation with loss of face
02:36 suddenly vanished.
02:38 "I've been a coward," he said, "I'm glad I was found."
02:42 Well, did you know, friends,
02:43 that the Bible speaks of a time
02:44 when the devil will be forced
02:46 to sort of live the life of a hermit?
02:49 The Bible tells us
02:50 in Revelation chapter 20 beginning in verse one,
02:53 "then I saw an angel coming down from heaven,
02:56 having the key to the bottomless pit
02:59 and a great chain in his hand.
03:01 And he laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old
03:04 who is the devil and Satan,
03:05 and bound him for a thousand years
03:08 and cast him into the bottomless pit and shut him up
03:11 and set a seal on him
03:13 that he should deceive the nations no more
03:15 till the thousand years were finished.
03:17 But after these things,
03:18 he must be released for a little while."
03:22 So here we find the Bible speaking of a time
03:24 when the devil is bound
03:25 in something called the bottomless pit.
03:28 Now, if you study that subject out,
03:29 you'll actually discover that the bottomless pit
03:31 is really a reference to the earth
03:33 in a broken down, desolate condition
03:36 after the second coming of Christ.
03:38 Now, we have a study guide
03:40 that talks about this 1000 year time period
03:43 that you find in Revelation chapter 20,
03:45 sometimes referred to as the Millennium,
03:47 which literally means a thousand years.
03:49 It's called 1000 Years of Peace.
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04:13 and I know we have a number of folks
04:15 who are tuning in from different countries around the world,
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04:28 Well, as mentioned a little earlier,
04:29 Pastor Doug is out this evening
04:31 and so working the phones
04:32 we have a new face to Bible Answers Live.
04:34 We've got Pastor Aron Crews who is joining me here,
04:38 and we're just delighted that Pastor Crews is here.
04:40 Now, Pastor Crews,
04:42 you're new to California
04:43 and you've just joined the Granite Bay Pastoral team
04:46 right here
04:47 and so we work together,
04:48 we are colleagues at the church.
04:50 Prior to you coming to California,
04:52 I think you've been here, what?
04:53 About a month, if that?
04:55 - Almost two.
04:56 - Almost two months.
04:57 Okay.
04:58 Prior to that, you were doing pastoral work
05:00 and where were you located?
05:01 - I was located in Michigan.
05:03 I pastored in Michigan for almost seven years.
05:06 - All right.
05:07 And I know we have a number of folks who listen in Michigan,
05:10 so some of the people might even know you
05:13 from that part of the world.
05:14 But we are just delighted
05:15 that Pastor Aron is with us and joining us.
05:17 He's also got a wonderful wealth of Bible knowledge,
05:20 and so he'll be joining me
05:22 as we answer these various Bible questions
05:24 and looking them up.
05:25 If you have a Bible question,
05:27 the number to call here to the studio is 800-463-7297.
05:32 Again, that's 800-463-7297.
05:37 That'll get you in the queue.
05:38 We have a number of folks
05:39 who are waiting for us to take their questions,
05:42 so we're gonna get to it right away.
05:44 But Pastor Crews,
05:44 before we go to the phone lines,
05:46 would you start the program with prayer?
05:48 - Absolutely.
05:48 Let's pray together.
05:50 Dear Heavenly Father,
05:51 thank you for the opportunity to be alive today
05:54 and to have minds to think critically
05:57 about what Your Word says.
05:59 Lord, open our minds
06:00 to hear Your answers from Your Word this evening.
06:04 We pray in Jesus' name, Amen.
06:06 - Amen.
06:07 All right, well Pastor Aron
06:09 let's go to our first caller for this evening.
06:11 Who do we have?
06:12 - All right, we have Phillip from Arkansas.
06:16 Phillip, hi.
06:17 Welcome to Bible Answers Live.
06:19 What is your question today?
06:21 - Hi, good evening pastors.
06:24 There's a prophecy in Hosea 6:2.
06:27 It's part of an interesting passage there,
06:30 but I was wondering,
06:31 have you guys ever applied that to end-time prophecy
06:35 especially if you assign one day for a thousand years?
06:37 - Okay, well, good question.
06:39 Let me read it.
06:40 So those of you who are traveling in your car,
06:42 you might not have your Bible in front of you.
06:44 Hosea 6:2 says,
06:46 "after two days He will raise us up
06:48 and on the third day, He will raise us up..."
06:51 Sorry, let me reread that, I messed it up.
06:53 "After two days he will revive us;"
06:55 I need to add, "on the third day he will raise us up,
06:58 that we may live in his sight."
07:01 Now, it's interesting.
07:02 When you look at this prophecy here in Hosea,
07:05 we have a time period after two days
07:07 and then on the third day we'll be raised up.
07:10 It's a reference to Israel.
07:12 That's the most immediate context
07:13 and deliverance that'll come to God's people.
07:16 But I think it's quite clear
07:17 that this is a prophecy not only related to literal Israel,
07:20 but it's also a prophecy related to Christ
07:22 because Christ rose from the dead on the third day.
07:25 It's also interesting that I believe Hosea,
07:27 Pastor Crews, mentions that Israel came up
07:31 obviously as we know, out of Egypt,
07:33 but there's also a prophecy with reference to Christ,
07:35 and it says, "I called my son out of Egypt."
07:38 And of course we know,
07:39 Jesus when He was still a baby,
07:41 just before Herod slaughtered the babies
07:44 in the area of Judea,
07:45 that Joseph, directed by an angel,
07:48 took the family down into Egypt,
07:50 and then Jesus was brought up out of Egypt.
07:52 So we see a parallel between ancient Israel
07:55 and we see a parallel with that
07:56 in the experiences of Christ.
07:58 And in particular, we have a prophecy here
08:00 that refers to Christ's death and His resurrection.
08:03 And of course,
08:04 Jesus also speaking of His death,
08:05 He says, "tell that old fox,"
08:07 speaking of Herod,
08:08 "that I work today, tomorrow,
08:09 and the third day I'm perfected or completed."
08:12 So we do have a number of references,
08:14 but I think this is a clear reference here
08:16 to the death, burial and crucifixion of Christ.
08:18 Does that help Phillip?
08:20 - Yeah, I get what you're saying.
08:22 But if you apply a day for a thousand years to it,
08:25 you could see where the third millennium
08:27 would be after 2000 years since Christ's baptism.
08:31 We would be starting that third millennium
08:32 when Jesus would rise up-
08:34 - Yeah, no, I think you...
08:36 Yeah, I think you're onto something for sure.
08:38 You know, Peter tells us that one day with the Lord
08:40 is as a thousand years
08:41 and a thousand years is as a day.
08:44 We know the earth is inhabited for about 6,000 years.
08:47 And then Jesus comes,
08:48 and then we have that 1000 year millennium
08:50 or that 1000 year Sabbath.
08:53 And we actually spoke about that in the the opening.
08:55 So we believe
08:57 that we're living very close to that 6,000 year mark,
08:59 and soon Jesus will come
09:01 and for the redeemed, they will be raised up.
09:03 They will live in the presence of God.
09:05 So I think you can apply this prophecy
09:08 to final redemption as well as to Christ.
09:11 - Amen.
09:13 - All right, great question.
09:14 Thanks for calling Phillip.
09:16 All right, who do we have next?
09:18 - All right, next we have Dennis calling in from Minnesota.
09:22 Hi there Dennis, what's your question today?
09:24 - Hello, Pastor Ross.
09:26 Pastor Crews.
09:28 I've been wondering for a long time on Genesis 3,
09:34 when the Earth got cursed because of sin by Jesus Christ.
09:39 It's obviously been deteriorating ever since,
09:42 with the flood and all.
09:44 And it seems like our solar system seems to be too,
09:47 because the sun doesn't seem to be as powerful as it was
09:51 even in my 70 years of existence.
09:56 Is the rest of the whole universe
09:58 or the solar system that we live in cursed?
10:03 Is it just the earth
10:04 or is it the rest of the creation?
10:07 - You know, that's a good question.
10:08 I mean, the Bible specifically mentions
10:10 after the fall of Adam and Eve
10:11 that God cursed the earth
10:13 and most specifically the ground, for man's sake
10:16 and it produced thorns and thistles.
10:18 But what about the rest of our environment?
10:21 Could that also was affected by sin?
10:24 Well, you know, if you look at our solar system,
10:26 it does seem that, you know, we live in a solar system
10:30 that to some degrees there's violence.
10:32 You have asteroids,
10:33 you have the service of the moon
10:35 that has kind of broken down Mars,
10:37 it's got storms that rage on the surface of Mars.
10:40 The Bible
10:42 does not specifically say more than just our earth,
10:44 but it is possible that our earth
10:46 is sort of surrounded by these planets.
10:48 We have the sun at just the right distance
10:50 so that we could have life on earth.
10:52 It seems as though our little solar system
10:55 was created and set up just for earth.
10:57 So could the consequences of what's happened here on earth
11:00 spill out to at least those planets within our solar system?
11:04 Possibly.
11:06 Although the Bible does not directly come out and say that,
11:08 but it is an interesting observation.
11:10 It's a good point.
11:11 Well, thanks for your call, Dennis.
11:12 - Thank you.
11:13 - All right, who do we have next?
11:16 - Next we have Angela calling in from Illinois.
11:19 Hi there, Angela.
11:20 What is your question?
11:23 - Hello.
11:24 Hi, Pastor Ross.
11:26 - Hello.
11:26 - And Pastor Crews.
11:28 Exodus 24:9-11.
11:31 And it talks about Moses and Aaron and Nadab and Abihu
11:36 and the 70 elders.
11:38 But in verse 10 it says,
11:40 "and they saw the God of Israel."
11:43 Did they actually see-
11:46 - Did they see God?
11:47 - Yeah, did they?
11:49 - Well, they saw Him at a distance,
11:52 they didn't see Him closely.
11:54 I mean, they saw Him at a distance
11:55 just as the children of Israel to some degree saw God
11:58 in the fiery cloud that came down on Mount Sinai.
12:01 They saw enough of God
12:03 to actually describe at least what He was on,
12:05 because it says, if you read the verse there,
12:07 it talks about under His feet,
12:09 there were paved works of sapphire stone
12:11 like the very heavens in its clarity.
12:13 So they had a picture of God's glory,
12:16 but it was at a distance
12:18 and I think they didn't clearly see the face of God
12:21 because the Bible tells us,
12:22 "no man can see God and live."
12:24 And when it came to Moses,
12:26 who was a lot more righteous than these gentlemen,
12:28 God said, "you can't see My face,
12:31 but I'll put you in the cleft of the rock and I'll pass by
12:33 and you'll at least see My back."
12:35 So yes, they did see God, but at a distance.
12:38 They couldn't see the direct features of God.
12:40 Maybe there was a glory shining forth that appears that way,
12:44 a light shining forth from God.
12:46 They witnessed Him seated on His throne
12:48 and the paving stones.
12:50 - Oh, okay.
12:52 Thank you.
12:53 - All right.
12:53 Great question.
12:54 Thank you Angela.
12:55 - Okay, bye.
12:56 - Bye bye.
12:57 - All right, next we have a caller, Jerry,
13:02 calling in from Texas.
13:04 Hi there Jerry, welcome to the show.
13:06 - Hey, Pastor Crews and Pastor Ross.
13:09 Always ask some questions
13:11 I appreciate that mentioning
13:12 about the sapphire throne of God.
13:14 Though my question I guess relates to Exodus 25:8.
13:19 Before sin existed, was there a sanctuary in heaven?
13:23 We know that Lucifer and probably Gabriel
13:26 sat upon the throne of God,
13:29 the covering cherubs,
13:32 but was there a sanctuary before sin existed?
13:36 - Okay, good question.
13:37 Well, we know there are parts of the sanctuary
13:39 that existed forever.
13:40 For example, God's law.
13:42 The foundation of His government
13:43 that you know, in the earthly,
13:45 which is a shadow of the heavenly,
13:47 you have the Ark of the Covenant with the mercy seat
13:49 that serves as the throne of God,
13:51 at least in the most holy place
13:53 under which are the ten commandments
13:54 which form the foundation of God's government.
13:57 That was always in existence.
13:59 The tables of stone
14:01 that were placed in the Ark of the Covenant
14:03 was a copy of the great original that was in heaven.
14:06 However, the functioning of the sanctuary prior to sin,
14:10 God's throne room.
14:11 But you know, there was a modification you might say
14:14 that took place
14:16 because everything that was revealed in the sanctuary
14:18 as it relates to Moses
14:20 was to point forward to the plan of redemption
14:22 and how God was gonna save mankind
14:24 all the way from the work of the priest to the sacrifice
14:27 to the various articles of furniture in the sanctuary.
14:30 And then of course, the movement of the priest,
14:32 the high priest into the most holy place for a judgment.
14:35 And then he was gonna come out from the temple
14:38 on the day of atonement,
14:39 he'd lay his hands on the scapegoat,
14:40 which would be taken to the wilderness.
14:41 So all of that ties into the work of redemption.
14:46 It is interesting to also note
14:47 that during the 1000 years,
14:49 we know that the heavenly sanctuary is in heaven,
14:52 but in the earth made new, when everything is created,
14:55 the end of Revelation
14:56 and John describes that he saw no temple therein.
14:59 Well, this is after the earth is recreated.
15:02 In other words,
15:03 the work of the sanctuary has met its ultimate fulfillment,
15:06 the purpose of which was to bring redemption to people.
15:10 That doesn't mean there's a demolition of the sanctuary,
15:13 but its function is now complete.
15:15 It's served its purpose.
15:17 So God has a throne room, God has a dwelling place.
15:20 It's always been.
15:21 Maybe there was a modification to that throne room
15:24 for the plan of redemption.
15:26 And then we find that after all things are made new,
15:29 at the end of the thousand years,
15:30 the earth is recreated,
15:31 there is no need for a sanctuary to function
15:34 because sin has been taken care of.
15:36 Does does that help?
15:37 - There was no adultery in heaven before...
15:39 There was no adultery before the ten commandments
15:42 so that wasn't a law then.
15:45 - Well, you know, if you think about it,
15:47 there's a principle that governs all of God's law.
15:49 The first four commandments have to do with love for God,
15:52 the last six have to do with love for our fellow man.
15:55 Now, it's true,
15:56 adultery was not the sin related to the angels,
15:59 but that was definitely a sin
16:00 that could be related to mankind
16:02 and there are other intelligent beings.
16:04 We believe that, you know, Adam and Eve
16:06 and the inhabitants of earth,
16:07 were the only ones that could procreate in their own image.
16:09 And that was unique.
16:11 So yes, that commandment relates to us,
16:13 but I think there is a spiritual application,
16:16 that of betrayal.
16:18 And of course, Lucifer is guilty of that.
16:20 He betrayed his trust to God or trust in God.
16:23 So the principles of love for God,
16:24 love for our fellow man
16:26 is of course the foundation
16:27 of which God's government is based.
16:30 - Oh, you guys have such knowledge.
16:32 Of course, it's given to you by the Holy Spirit.
16:35 Thank you guys, continue to do your work.
16:37 - Well, thanks for calling Jerry.
16:38 We're happy we can share
16:39 and we're all learning together.
16:41 We like studying
16:43 and there's always something new to learn.
16:45 Friends, if you have a Bible question,
16:46 the number to call is 800-463-7297.
16:50 Again, that's 800-463-7297
16:53 if you have a Bible related question
16:55 and we'll be happy to take your call on the air.
16:59 Pastor Crews, who do we have next?
17:02 - Yeah, next we have Gregory
17:04 calling in from Mississippi.
17:06 Hi there, Gregory.
17:08 - Hey.
17:10 - Thanks for calling.
17:11 - Can you hear me?
17:12 - Yeah.
17:13 Hi, what's your question, Greg?
17:16 - My question is,
17:17 is it okay to go fishing on the Sabbath?
17:20 - Okay, is it okay to go fishing on the Sabbath?
17:22 Well, let me put it this way.
17:25 It is okay to be in nature on the Sabbath,
17:28 but on the Sabbath
17:29 we wanna lay aside our own personal interests
17:32 or activities that would take away
17:35 from centering upon Christ and upon worship.
17:38 So yes, when you're in nature
17:40 and you're witnessing the beauty of nature
17:41 and the beautiful creation around you,
17:43 that's a good thing to do on the Sabbath.
17:45 But if your focus is on trying to catch the big fish,
17:47 that's probably not the right activity to do on the Sabbath,
17:52 focusing on fishing
17:54 or maybe somebody wants to go surfing on Sabbath
17:56 and they say, Well I'm in the ocean,
17:58 I'm out in nature with the waves.
18:00 So there are certain activities
18:02 that we want to lay aside on Sabbath
18:04 so that all of our focus, our attention
18:06 could be on what the Sabbath principles are,
18:08 that is rest,
18:09 that is an opportunity for us
18:11 to build a relationship with our fellow men, our family,
18:14 but also to worship.
18:16 That's the centrality of the Sabbath, is worshiping God,
18:18 worshiping the Creator.
18:20 So I would say, you know, I'm not a fisher, are you?
18:23 Do you fish Aron?
18:24 - I don't fish.
18:26 - You don't fish.
18:27 Okay.
18:28 - No.
18:29 - I know that it's a pretty compelling sport
18:30 and a lot of folks enjoy doing that
18:31 but you know, just knowing other sports
18:34 that people can be involved in,
18:36 that's probably not the activity
18:38 that one wants to be engaged in on Sabbath.
18:40 I'd do that on another day of the week.
18:42 - Yeah.
18:43 Something I want to add is,
18:44 when there's ever questions regarding the Sabbath,
18:47 I like to go back to the command itself, right?
18:49 And build whatever answer that we're developing
18:52 from the actual text.
18:53 So if we turn to Exodus 20:8-11,
18:56 I'll just kind of read
18:57 through some of the fourth commandment here.
19:00 It says, "remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy," right?
19:03 Just as Pastor Jean was saying, right?
19:04 The emphasis is on, this day is different.
19:06 - It's God's day.
19:07 - It's God's day, right?
19:08 So if there's commonplace things
19:11 that you do the other six days,
19:12 perhaps fishing is one of those things,
19:14 then maybe on the the seventh day
19:16 you wanna say, "Hey, I wanna treat this day holy
19:19 because it's God's day and do something a little different."
19:21 And the command goes on,
19:22 "six days, you shall labor, do all your work,
19:24 with the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God,
19:26 in it you shall do no work,
19:27 you nor..." and then it goes on to give long list.
19:30 So to me, the summary of the fourth commandment
19:34 is the day should be treated holy
19:36 and then it's a day to be treated and kept restfully, right?
19:42 But it's a twofold rest.
19:43 You take rest and then you give rest.
19:47 You extend rest
19:48 to those within your sphere of influence, right?
19:51 The stranger within your gates, your children-
19:54 - Even your animals.
19:55 - Even your animals get a rest.
19:56 So when we apply these principles,
19:58 I think we can think through any question about the Sabbath
20:02 and find an answer.
20:03 - All right, well thank you, Gregory.
20:04 That's a good practical question
20:06 that a lot of people are wondering about.
20:07 What is appropriate to do there on the Sabbath?
20:10 You know, we do have a study guide
20:11 for anyone wanting to learn more about the Sabbath.
20:14 Is it still binding on Christians in the New Testament?
20:16 We have a study guide called, The Lost Day of History.
20:20 It's free, we'll send it to you.
20:21 All you have to do is call 800-835-6747
20:26 and we'll be happy to put it in the mail and send it to you.
20:28 Again, that study guide is called The Lost Day of History.
20:31 And you know, Pastor Crews,
20:32 we have a website that Amazing Facts has put together.
20:34 It's called sabbathtruth.com
20:36 and it's just jam packed with great resources.
20:39 There's sermons, there's bible studies there.
20:41 So if you wanna learn more
20:43 about what is the Bible saying about the Sabbath?
20:44 Take a look at the website.
20:45 It's sabbathtruth.com,
20:47 I think you'll find it very interesting.
20:50 Who's our next caller?
20:53 Terrence?
20:54 Is that Terrence in North Carolina?
20:55 - Yeah, we've got Terrence.
20:56 Hi there.
20:57 Are you there Terrence?
20:58 - Yes, Pastor Crews.
20:59 How are you?
21:00 - Hi, I'm doing well.
21:01 Welcome to the show.
21:01 What's your question today?
21:03 - Question for Pastor Crews and Pastor Ross
21:06 is Revelation 20:10,
21:11 "and the devil who deceived them
21:13 was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur
21:15 where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown.
21:18 They will be tormented day and night, forever and ever."
21:22 And my question is,
21:23 is that literally forever and ever or is that just-
21:28 - Figurative language?
21:30 No, I think it's literal.
21:31 They're gonna be tormented forever and ever
21:33 until they are no more.
21:35 Now, I wanna make that clear.
21:37 You know, the Bible tells us that the wages of sin is death
21:41 and in the judgment,
21:42 everyone is rewarded according to their work
21:45 so not everyone receives the same punishment.
21:47 So some will suffer a little longer
21:49 before they are completely destroyed in the lake of fire.
21:52 And the devil himself being the author of sin and suffering,
21:56 he'll probably suffer the longest.
21:58 But all sinners, including the devil and his angels,
22:02 they come to an end and they are destroyed
22:05 because the fires that destroy the wicked eventually go out
22:09 because it says God creates a new heavens and a new Earth
22:12 and the lake of fire actually takes place on the earth.
22:14 If you're reading Revelation chapter 20,
22:16 it talks about the wicked mounting their attack
22:18 upon the new Jerusalem, the golden city
22:21 and fire coming down and devouring them,
22:23 so that occurs on the earth.
22:25 But once the fire has accomplished its work
22:27 and they are forever no more,
22:30 they are destroyed forever and ever,
22:32 they can never be resurrected,
22:33 then the fire, of course, has done its job
22:36 and God is able to recreate the earth.
22:38 So forever and ever means as long as life shall last.
22:41 Now, we're not talking about, you know,
22:43 long ages of suffering here.
22:45 It appears at least a day and a night
22:48 that they'll be suffering.
22:49 And the Bible doesn't say how long.
22:52 It's not gonna be a long time
22:53 because God's gonna create a new earth
22:55 and you're not gonna have the wicked suffering forever.
22:57 But they will receive a just penalty for their actions.
23:03 Does that help, Terrence?
23:05 - Yes, it does.
23:07 Thank you very much Pastor Ross.
23:08 - All right, great.
23:09 Good question.
23:10 You know, we have a study guide,
23:11 actually the one I think we offered
23:12 called 1000 Years of Peace
23:14 touches on that a little bit
23:14 because the whole subject there
23:16 is talking about Revelation chapter 20.
23:18 And we also have another study guide
23:19 called Is the Devil in Charge of Hell?
23:21 You know, Pastor Crews, this is a subject
23:23 that has brought a lot of confusion to people.
23:25 It's verses like this
23:26 that you say, well, how long do the fires of hell burn?
23:29 Do they burn without end?
23:31 Well, you've gotta put a number of Bible verses together,
23:33 but the Bible makes it pretty clear
23:35 that the wicked are destroyed.
23:37 The wages of sin is death.
23:39 Jesus said we have two choices.
23:40 We can have everlasting life or we have death.
23:43 It's not life in a place of torment throughout eternity,
23:48 it's death.
23:49 So yes, there is a fire, there is a hell fire.
23:52 The wicked are destroyed in the fire.
23:54 They do suffer according to their works,
23:56 but they all are destroyed.
23:58 The Bible says that the wicked turned to ashes.
24:00 - Yeah, in fact there's one verse in particular
24:03 that's directly, I believe, related to Revelation 20:10,
24:07 which has as its focus the devil, right?
24:10 If we turn back to Ezekiel chapter 28,
24:13 there's a prophecy concerning the devil
24:16 about his fall from heaven.
24:19 And it says here in Ezekiel 28:18, 19,
24:23 it says, "I turned you to ashes,"
24:26 speaking of the devil,
24:27 "upon the earth,
24:29 in the sight of all who saw you."
24:30 Verse 19,
24:32 "all who knew you among the peoples are astonished at you.
24:35 You have become a horror and you shall be no more forever."
24:41 - Now that's a pretty clear verse.
24:42 It talks about the devil.
24:44 So it's not just talking about, you know, bad people here,
24:46 but it's talking about the devil himself, the author of sin,
24:49 that he's turned to ashes
24:50 and it tells us where.
24:52 It's on the earth.
24:53 And then it tells us of his final fate.
24:55 You shall be no more.
24:57 Well, you know, that's good news for the believer.
24:59 We're not always gonna have to deal with the great tempter,
25:01 the adversary,
25:03 the one who is causing sin and suffering and pain.
25:06 The Bible also speaks about God
25:07 wiping away every tear from the eyes of those who are saved.
25:10 So the time comes where there'll be no more pain
25:12 and God will make all things new.
25:14 And friends, the most important truth that we can understand
25:17 is that Jesus has made a way of salvation.
25:21 None of us need to be outside that city of gold
25:23 when those fires fall and the wicked are destroyed.
25:26 Through Christ and through His atoning sacrifice,
25:28 we can have everlasting life.
25:31 And friends, that's good news.
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25:36 that your heart is right with God
25:37 and that you can receive the gift of eternal life,
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25:44 and it's talking about salvation.
25:46 Ultimate deliverance that comes through Christ,
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25:50 and that's really good news.
25:52 So yes, there is a judgment,
25:53 the wicked will be destroyed.
25:55 There is a hell, it does not burn people forever.
25:58 But then God creates a new heaven and a new earth.
26:00 And you know, that's good news that we find in the Bible.
26:03 God is gonna make all things new.
26:05 - Amen.
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30:18 My name is Pastor Jean Ross
30:20 and joining me is Pastor-
30:21 - Pastor Crews.
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31:12 So Pastor Crews, who's our next caller?
31:15 - Yeah, we've got Robert calling in from Washington.
31:18 Is that Washington DC or Washington State, Robert?
31:23 - Well, Washington State, North West Pocket here.
31:27 - All right, well, welcome.
31:28 What is your question?
31:32 - Well, I hear quite often as I'm on Facebook mainly,
31:38 that a lot of people
31:40 believe that Christ is gonna set up His earthly kingdom,
31:44 the millennium will be here on Earth
31:50 and of course, they've got their Bible verses
31:52 to explain that.
31:57 So how would you go about saying that,
32:00 well, you are wrong, we go up?
32:04 - Okay, well, good question.
32:05 Well, if they've got Bible verses that explain somehow
32:08 that Christ is gonna rule here on this earth over the wicked
32:12 during the thousand years, I'd like to see that.
32:14 It is true.
32:16 The Bible does speak about Christ ruling on the earth,
32:17 no doubt about that.
32:19 But the sequence of how things play out,
32:21 the Bible's pretty clear.
32:23 Let me begin with one verse,
32:25 the great promise in John chapter 14.
32:27 Jesus said, "let not your heart be troubled.
32:29 You believe in God, believe also in Me.
32:31 In My Father's house, there are many mansions."
32:33 Where?
32:35 In My Father's house.
32:36 Where's the Father's house?
32:37 Well, it would be in heaven.
32:38 "In My Father's house, there are many mansions.
32:40 If it were not so, I would've told you.
32:41 I go to prepare a place for you, in the Father's house,
32:44 and if I go and prepare a place,
32:46 I will come again unto you to receive you unto Myself
32:51 that where I am, there you may also be."
32:53 So at the second coming of Christ,
32:54 Jesus is coming to take the redeemed
32:56 to the place that He has prepared for them
32:58 in the Father's house.
33:00 All that, of course, would be in heaven.
33:03 So when Jesus comes the second time,
33:04 there are several things that take place.
33:06 The righteous are changed.
33:08 The righteous living are changed in a moment,
33:11 in the twinkling of an eye
33:11 they get their immortal bodies.
33:13 The dead in Christ are resurrected
33:15 and they are caught up to meet the Lord in the air
33:18 and Christ takes them to heaven.
33:21 The wicked are destroyed
33:22 with the brightness of Christ's coming,
33:25 1 Thessalonians speaks of that,
33:26 as well as Revelation chapter 19 near the end.
33:30 So the wicked are all destroyed with the coming of Christ,
33:32 the righteous are taken to heaven.
33:34 And for a thousand years,
33:36 the righteous are in heaven and they're involved in judging.
33:39 The Bible refers to them as ruling.
33:41 The aspect of rulership that's so significant
33:43 is that of judgment.
33:45 And they're involved in judging the wicked, even the angels,
33:48 the wicked angels, during that thousand years.
33:50 Not determining who's saved and lost, God does that,
33:53 but they have something to do
33:54 with reaffirming the decision God has made,
33:57 but also the rewards of, or the judgements
34:00 that come upon the wicked.
34:01 And then at the end of the thousand years,
34:03 according to Revelation chapter 21,
34:05 it describes the new Jerusalem coming down from God
34:07 prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
34:10 And then Jesus sets His foot on the Mount of Olives,
34:13 which is in Zachariah.
34:15 It opens up and forms a great valley,
34:16 and the New Jerusalem comes to rest
34:18 and all the wicked are then resurrected
34:20 for the great white throne judgment
34:23 that you read about in Revelation chapter 20.
34:26 At the end of that, and I'm just giving you a synopsis,
34:28 at the end of that great white throne judgment
34:30 the wicked actually mount an attack upon the golden city.
34:34 Fire comes and devours them.
34:36 Then the earth is recreated
34:38 and the righteous then will inherit the earth.
34:41 That's the promise,
34:42 the meek shall inherit the earth.
34:43 So they're not ruling over the wicked
34:45 during the thousand years here on the earth,
34:47 they're in heaven.
34:48 And at the end of the thousand years
34:50 is the final great white throne judgment.
34:52 - Yeah, a couple things to add.
34:55 And that's a great summary of the thousand year period here.
34:58 In Revelation 20:5,
34:59 it says that "the dead," speaking of the wicked dead,
35:03 it says, "did not live again
35:04 until the thousand years were finished," right?
35:07 - Right.
35:08 - So here on the earth, there's no humans alive.
35:10 Then what we see right before Revelation 20,
35:12 in Revelation 19,
35:13 this is a picture of the second coming.
35:15 Jesus is coming on a white horse
35:17 with a sword symbolically coming out of His mouth.
35:20 King of kings, Lord of lords.
35:22 This is the second coming.
35:24 And we know from the rest of the scripture,
35:25 at the second coming
35:26 that's when all of the righteous are resurrected,
35:28 go to heaven.
35:30 So when it says they reign with Christ for a thousand years,
35:31 this reign happens in heaven,
35:34 while the wicked are sleeping,
35:36 they're dead, they're resting
35:38 awaiting the end of a thousand years.
35:39 - Now, of course, people wonder,
35:40 well, who're they reigning over
35:42 if they're reigning with Christ for a thousand years?
35:43 And the point that I wanna emphasize,
35:45 the most significant part about reigning,
35:46 when a king sat upon his throne and he was reigning
35:47 he was acting as a judge, it was a judgment.
35:51 So the redeemed will be involved in a judgment
35:53 during the thousand years.
35:54 Paul says, "know that you shall judge angels,"
35:57 how much more things pertaining to this life?
35:59 So anyway, there's just a quick overview.
36:00 Hopefully that helps, Robert.
36:01 You might wanna get the study guide
36:03 called 1000 Years of Peace.
36:05 It's just jam packed with scripture
36:06 and I think you'll find it an interesting study.
36:09 Who do we have next?
36:10 - All right, next we have Jerry,
36:13 calling in from California, our very own state.
36:16 Hi there, Jerry, what is your question tonight?
36:19 - So actually that call prompted another question.
36:23 - Sure.
36:25 - So that question is,
36:28 what do you guys think is the timing of,
36:32 or do you even believe in the rapture
36:35 as pre-tribulation or post-tribulation?
36:38 - Okay, good question.
36:39 Well, of course, the word rapture
36:40 does not appear in the Bible
36:41 but the idea of being caught up,
36:43 that's where it comes from,
36:44 the rapture is to be caught up.
36:46 The Bible is clear that when Jesus comes
36:48 the dead in Christ are raised and the living,
36:51 together are caught up to meet the Lord in the air.
36:55 And maybe you can look that verse up in first Thessalonians.
36:57 So the Lord comes, Jesus comes the second time,
37:01 the dead are resurrected,
37:02 the righteous are changed,
37:04 and together we are caught up to meet Jesus in the air.
37:07 But the wicked are destroyed
37:08 with the brightness of Christ's coming.
37:10 So the wicked are all died.
37:11 So the rapture occurs at the second coming of Christ,
37:14 which occurs when Jesus comes the second time.
37:17 So there is a tribulation.
37:19 The Bible in Daniel 12:1,
37:22 talks about a terrible time of trouble
37:23 that is worse than the world has ever been,
37:26 but that precedes the second coming of Christ.
37:28 And that's when the seven last plagues are poured out
37:30 that you read about in Revelation chapter 16.
37:32 Now, God's people are protected during that time.
37:35 God provides for them.
37:36 We need not fear, God will take care of His people,
37:39 but they're on the earth,
37:40 just like the children of Israel were in Egypt
37:42 when the plagues came upon Egypt
37:43 and then they were delivered out of Egypt
37:45 and they went to the Promised Land,
37:46 so the righteous will be on the earth
37:48 when the plagues come during this time of trouble,
37:50 but they're protected
37:52 and they're delivered out from the earth
37:54 and they go to heaven for a thousand years.
37:56 So that's kind of the context there Jerry,
37:58 does that make sense?
38:01 - So I guess you guys believe post-tribulation?
38:04 - We believe that the time of trouble
38:06 precedes the second coming of Christ.
38:10 - All right.
38:11 Many believe that it happens pre-tribulation,
38:14 but I'll move on to my next question.
38:16 - Sure.
38:17 - So my original question, sorry to change up-
38:20 - Oh, no problem.
38:22 - So my original question is, can we lose our salvation?
38:26 - Okay.
38:27 Well, it's probably up to us you might say.
38:30 If we're trusting in Christ,
38:32 the Bible says that no one
38:34 can pluck us out of the Father's hand.
38:35 Actually, Jesus said that.
38:37 So if we're trusting in Christ
38:39 and we have a living relationship with Jesus,
38:41 we need not fear.
38:43 We are safe and secure.
38:45 But when one receives salvation,
38:47 accepts Jesus as his personal Savior,
38:49 his free will doesn't go away.
38:52 We still have freedom to choose, so we can choose.
38:54 And the apostle Paul says, "I die daily."
38:56 It is a daily surrendering of ourself to Christ.
39:00 We can unfortunately, if we choose, we can walk away.
39:04 God's not gonna force us to be saved
39:07 if we no longer wanna be saved, right?
39:08 I mean, we have that freedom of choice.
39:11 But if we are choosing Him and surrendering to Him,
39:14 we need not fear, we are secure.
39:17 He's going to hold us in the palm of His hand.
39:19 - Yeah.
39:21 And I think sometimes the question asks,
39:23 can you lose your salvation?
39:25 Sometimes it's like a pen, right?
39:27 Can you lose your pen?
39:28 Sometimes we view salvation as an item.
39:31 Something that's, oh, I dropped it.
39:32 We have to remember that salvation is a relationship.
39:35 We get it through a relationship with Jesus, right?
39:38 And as you were mentioning earlier,
39:40 God doesn't take away our free will.
39:43 Once you're married
39:44 or once you're in a relationship with someone,
39:46 for you to say, "ha, I've got you now,
39:48 you can never leave me," right?
39:50 God's not like that.
39:51 He's not gonna force you to stay.
39:53 So salvation can be lost
39:55 in the sense of someone can walk away
39:58 from a relationship with Jesus.
39:59 - Yes.
40:01 Now, I don't know why somebody would wanna do that,
40:02 but they are free to do that,
40:06 although Christ doesn't want us to do that.
40:08 - Yeah.
40:09 And one more helpful thing.
40:10 I think if you read the book of Hebrews,
40:12 you find all throughout the book of Hebrews,
40:14 lots of warning passages about walking away from Christ.
40:18 One of them is in Hebrews 3:14,
40:20 where it says, "for we have become partakers of Christ."
40:24 Notice, "if we hold the beginning of our confidence
40:29 steadfast to the end."
40:32 God wants us to hold onto Him until the end.
40:35 - And one other verse.
40:36 Jesus said in Matthew 24,
40:38 "he who endures to the end," the same "shall be saved."
40:41 So to be a Christian today requires endurance,
40:45 it requires faith and belief in God.
40:47 You know, we do have a book that deals with the subject.
40:50 It's called Can A Saved Man Choose To Be Lost?
40:53 That's the title,
40:54 Can A Saved Man Choose To Be Lost?
40:56 We'll be happy to send that to anyone who calls and asks.
40:59 You'd like to learn more about that subject?
41:01 The number again is 800-835-6747.
41:05 Call and ask, Can A Saved Man Choose To Be Lost?
41:07 And we'll be happy to send that to anyone in North America.
41:10 Who do we have next?
41:12 - Next, we've got Keith calling in from Michigan.
41:15 Hi there Keith, what's your question?
41:18 - So the question I have is,
41:22 if Satan no longer has access to the tree of life,
41:29 how is God sustaining him
41:31 and how was he not destroyed when the flood came?
41:35 - Okay, good question.
41:36 Well, we do know that the angels
41:38 are in a different dimension than we are.
41:42 They are spiritual beings.
41:44 So that means they don't have flesh and blood as we do.
41:48 We do know that they have abilities to appear
41:51 and they can even appear as dead loved ones,
41:53 they can possess a person,
41:55 you call that demon possession,
41:58 they can travel quickly.
42:00 They can't read our thoughts,
42:02 but they can put ideas in our mind, so to speak.
42:05 The Bible says only God knows the heart of man,
42:08 but they can tempt us.
42:09 So there is that dimension that we can't see.
42:13 Now, I think maybe before Adam and Eve sinned,
42:15 their eyes were open,
42:16 they were able to see the angels.
42:18 But Adam and Eve were created unique.
42:21 They were created in a different format than the angels.
42:24 And by then partaking of the tree of life,
42:26 that was a symbol of their faith and obedience in God
42:29 and it sustained their life here on the earth.
42:32 So the devil has a different type of life,
42:37 a different sustenance you might say,
42:39 that preserves his life.
42:41 But the clock is ticking, the devil will be destroyed.
42:44 His life can come to an end.
42:47 He couldn't have been destroyed during the flood
42:49 because he's a spiritual being.
42:51 Although maybe the devil was afraid
42:52 when he saw everything happening here on this planet.
42:55 The rain and the storm and the volcanoes
42:56 and everything else that was happening.
42:58 But as a spiritual being,
43:00 he can't be chained with a physical chain
43:02 or be bound or held physically.
43:04 So it's just a different dimension than we are.
43:07 But he will be destroyed.
43:10 Does that help, Keith?
43:11 - Oh okay.
43:12 Yeah, it does.
43:13 - All right, great.
43:14 Thanks for your call.
43:15 Who do we have next?
43:16 - Yeah, next we have calling in is Jonathan.
43:20 Another caller from Tennessee.
43:21 Hi there Jonathan, are you with us?
43:23 - Hey, good evening.
43:24 I can hear you very well.
43:25 - Yeah, thanks for your call.
43:27 - Hey, good.
43:28 Enjoying the discussion so far tonight.
43:30 Hey, so my question is regarding
43:33 kind of interpreting the second coming of Jesus.
43:36 So I guess I would phrase it this way,
43:38 didn't Jesus lose His omnipresence on earth?
43:42 If so, how is it that He will be seen by every eye
43:46 as it is stated in Revelation 1:7?
43:50 - Yes, good question.
43:52 Well, when Jesus comes the second time
43:54 as He's coming to the earth,
43:55 the earth is still turning.
43:57 So the Bible doesn't say
43:59 that everyone's gonna see Jesus at exactly the same time,
44:01 but it says everyone on the earth
44:03 will see Jesus when He comes.
44:05 So as Christ approaches the earth,
44:07 and of course Jesus is coming with all of the angels,
44:09 it's gonna be very dramatic and glorious event.
44:12 As the earth turns, everyone's gonna see Jesus.
44:15 Perhaps at the second coming of Christ,
44:17 Jesus circles the earth
44:19 before the righteous are caught up to meet Him.
44:22 We don't know for sure how Christ is gonna do that
44:25 but yes, everyone living will be able to see Jesus
44:29 when He comes the second time.
44:31 Of course, there's two responses.
44:32 The righteous look up and they say, "this is our God,
44:34 we waited for Him, He'll save us."
44:36 The wicked turn to the mountains and the rocks
44:37 and they say "fall on us and hide us
44:40 from the face of Him who sits up on the throne
44:41 and from the wrath of the Lamb."
44:43 That's Revelation chapter six.
44:44 All right, thank you Jonathan.
44:46 Who do we have next?
44:47 - Yes, next we have a caller from Texas.
44:50 I think it's-
44:53 - Fredine.
44:54 Fredine, is that correct?
44:57 - Yes.
44:58 Hello, good evening.
44:58 - Hi, welcome.
45:01 - Hi, thank you pastors.
45:02 So my question is, earlier someone called in
45:05 and they were asking about, do people or you know, Satan...
45:11 Do they burn literally forever?
45:14 But my question is in regards to the degrees of punishment,
45:19 because I always hear it said
45:22 that some people that have done greater sin,
45:25 they burn for longer.
45:28 And I'm thinking to myself,
45:30 I know this scripture does kind of hint at that,
45:33 but how does that work if we're all mortal beings?
45:35 How does one person burn longer than the other?
45:37 - Okay, well, that's a good question.
45:39 Let me give you a verse.
45:40 Maybe you can look it up for me Pastor Aron.
45:42 Jesus says, "He who knew the will of his master
45:44 and did not do it, will be beaten with many stripes.
45:48 He who did not know the will of his master
45:50 and did not do it, will be beaten with few stripes."
45:53 So there are degrees in punishment
45:56 that's gonna be meted out for the wicked.
45:58 Not everyone receives the same reward.
46:00 Did you find that verse?
46:01 - Yeah, that's Luke 12:47.
46:02 - Luke 12:47.
46:04 And the Bible does tell us in Revelation
46:06 that when Jesus comes...
46:08 Revelation 22,
46:09 that He'll reward everyone according to their works.
46:11 So there are degrees,
46:12 there are varying rewards.
46:14 As far as how will that actually happen?
46:16 Well, when the wicked are resurrected
46:19 at the end of the thousand years, you know,
46:22 I don't think they're gonna have
46:23 exactly the same type of bodies that we have now.
46:27 I don't think they're gonna have to go plant
46:29 and find food to eat and find water to drink.
46:32 It seems as though they're resurrected
46:34 in a form where they can actually see what's happening
46:37 in the golden city.
46:39 They'll be able to see the angels,
46:40 they'll even be able to see the devil.
46:42 So it's a little bit of a different form than we have now.
46:45 And apparently,
46:46 the fire that destroys the devil and his angels,
46:49 it's not just a regular fire
46:50 because the devil can't be burnt
46:52 with the fire that we know today.
46:54 So it's a special fire that purifies and cleanses the earth.
46:58 So it's gonna be a little different
47:00 at the end of the thousand years
47:03 when the wicked are resurrected.
47:05 - Yeah.
47:06 We know the ultimate punishment
47:07 for all the wicked is death, right?
47:09 The wages of sin is death.
47:10 I mean to use an example of today,
47:13 in many places there's a death penalty, right?
47:17 There's different kinds of ways
47:19 that the punishment of death can be inflicted, right?
47:21 Lethal injection, electric chair, you know, just being shot.
47:25 So we know that the ultimate punishment is death,
47:29 but the process to get to that death can be different.
47:33 - Can vary.
47:34 - It can vary in intensity and duration.
47:36 So how God's gonna do it exactly-
47:39 - The Bible doesn't tell.
47:40 - The Bible doesn't tell,
47:41 but we know that it's gonna be just and fair.
47:43 - Absolutely.
47:44 Well, does that help a little bit, Fredine?
47:48 - Yes, it does actually give me a new perspective.
47:51 I was thinking while I was on hold
47:53 that maybe it's kind of like when you're cooking a chicken,
47:56 if you cook it on low,
47:58 it takes a longer time to go to the organs, right?
48:00 - Yep.
48:01 - But if you cook it on a higher heat,
48:02 kind of like with Nebuchadnezzar
48:05 when he was like turn up the fire seven times hotter,
48:08 it should kill them on the spot,
48:10 and it should get to their organs faster
48:12 than if it was on a lower heat.
48:13 So I don't know.
48:15 I guess we won't know that part,
48:16 but at least we do know that there is like different levels-
48:20 - There is, yeah.
48:21 Good question.
48:22 Now, the good news of course is
48:23 none of us need to have firsthand experience
48:25 of that fire, right?
48:26 - Amen.
48:27 - Because God has provided a way of escape
48:29 and we can praise Him for that.
48:31 We can receive Him as our personal Savior.
48:33 Who do we have next?
48:35 - Yes, we have Cha'kyra.
48:39 I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing.
48:41 - Cha'kyra, there we go.
48:42 - Cha'kyra calling in from Minnesota.
48:45 Hi there.
48:46 What is your question this evening?
48:49 - So in Psalms 82:6 it says that we are Gods,
48:56 can you explain what that means?
48:57 - Okay, very good.
48:58 Well, let me read the verse here.
48:59 For those of you
49:01 who might not have their bibles in front of them,
49:02 it says, starting verse five,
49:04 "they do not know nor do they understand;
49:06 they walk about in darkness;
49:08 all of the foundations of the earth are unstable."
49:10 It says as, "I said, you are gods,
49:13 and all of you are the children of the most high
49:17 but you shall die like men."
49:18 So the word there "gods"
49:20 can also be translated as rulers or lords
49:25 or those who might hold dominance over others.
49:28 So of course, God does hold that position,
49:31 He is the Ultimate Ruler.
49:33 But there were also others
49:35 that claimed themselves to be rulers over others.
49:37 They claimed themselves to be worthy of recognition,
49:44 but the reality is they're gonna be destroyed.
49:46 That's what the next verse says.
49:47 Even if they are princes, it says,
49:49 "and there'll fall one of the princes"
49:51 when God rises up to judge them.
49:54 So there's no escape
49:57 even of those who claim to be in positions of influence
50:00 or power or lord over others.
50:03 - Yeah.
50:04 It's certainly true that we are made in the image of God
50:07 and in the likeness of God.
50:08 So we are like Him in a variety of different ways.
50:10 - All right.
50:11 Does that help a little bit, Cha'kyra?
50:15 - Cha'kyra, and-
50:17 - You've got our thank you.
50:18 - One time at church, there was a pastor
50:23 and he said that his name was Elijah Mighty God.
50:27 Is that okay for us to say?
50:30 - You mean the phrase Almighty God?
50:32 Yes.
50:33 If we are referring to the God of heaven, absolutely.
50:36 I think we want to be careful.
50:38 The Bible tells us don't take God's name in vain.
50:42 And when we talk about God
50:43 and we talk about the Almighty God,
50:46 we want to do that humbly and reverently,
50:48 we don't wanna do that in jest.
50:50 And that title Almighty God only belongs to one,
50:54 and that is the Creator God.
50:56 That's the God that we worship and serve.
50:57 So yes, there's nothing wrong in saying Almighty God,
51:01 but we want to do it reverently
51:03 and in the proper circumstance.
51:06 All right, who do we have next?
51:08 What about Joe in New York?
51:10 Joe, are you there?
51:11 - I'm glad you're there to help people.
51:14 - Hi, welcome to the program.
51:15 - I had a question about the Bible
51:17 when it talks about Satan blinding the minds
51:19 of the people of this world.
51:22 Does that mean like they were born blind
51:24 and they can't see till God awakens them up
51:27 or they choose to be blind?
51:29 It says there's foolishness to them that don't believe
51:33 or Satan keeps blinding them
51:35 or he blinded them before they were born?
51:38 Like when they're born, you're blinding him or what?
51:42 - Okay, of course...
51:46 Okay, we're talking about spiritual blindness here,
51:48 we're not talking about literal blindness.
51:50 But when it talks about the devil blinding a person,
51:53 what happens is if you hear the truth,
51:56 if you have access to the truth
51:59 or the Holy Spirit speaks to your heart and you reject that,
52:03 you harden your heart,
52:05 very often that gives access to the devil to present a lie.
52:11 And in doing that, your heart is even hardened
52:13 and you are even more blind.
52:15 Jesus said of the religious leaders of His day,
52:18 He spoke of them as being the blind leading the blind.
52:22 Now, He's talking spiritually
52:23 because they had rejected the truth
52:25 that Jesus had come to give.
52:26 They rejected the teachings of the scriptures
52:29 and they had their own manmade traditions
52:31 and they were considered spiritually blind.
52:34 And so yes, if we reject truth,
52:36 our hearts are hardened
52:37 and we're opening ourselves up for more deception.
52:40 Paul actually says, and maybe you can find that verse,
52:42 "because they receive not a love of the truth,
52:44 God shall send them strong delusions
52:46 that they shall believe a lie."
52:49 So if somebody rejects truth,
52:51 their hearts are hardened in disobedience.
52:55 So hopefully that helps a little bit.
52:56 Did that make sense, Joe?
52:58 - So that comes after they harden their heart
53:00 or they're born blind
53:02 so a natural man can understand or obey the things of God?
53:08 - Yes.
53:09 So we are naturally born with a selfishness towards self
53:11 but God still speaks to us
53:14 and God tries to reach us
53:15 because He's not willing that any should perish
53:17 but He wants all to come to salvation.
53:19 And depending upon how we respond to that,
53:22 how we respond to the promptings of the Holy Spirit
53:24 and the truth of God's Word,
53:25 that determines whether we are going to spiritually
53:27 have our eyes open to see more truth
53:30 or we're gonna be blinded by the deceptions of Satan.
53:34 So it's what our response is that gives access to the devil.
53:37 I think we have time, maybe for one more caller.
53:39 Who do we have?
53:40 - Yeah.
53:42 Let's go with Frank, calling in from Montreal.
53:45 International caller.
53:47 Hi there Frank, welcome.
53:48 - Thank you very much.
53:50 Good evening pastors.
53:51 Thank you for taking my call.
53:52 - You're welcome.
53:53 - So back to creation.
53:55 Did God create death?
53:57 Because God, when He was speaking to Adam and Eve He said,
54:00 "if you eat the fruit you will die."
54:02 I believe that was the first time
54:03 death was mentioned in the Bible.
54:05 - Yes.
54:06 Did God create death?
54:07 Well, the absence of life is death,
54:10 and the Bible says God is life.
54:12 So whenever somebody is separated from God
54:15 or they chooses to rebel against God,
54:17 the natural consequence of that is death.
54:20 I've heard it,
54:21 somebody once explained it
54:23 that if you have a light
54:24 and you have it plugged into the socket in the wall
54:25 and you have electricity flowing through,
54:28 you're gonna have light,
54:29 the light's gonna shine.
54:30 But the moment you unplug
54:32 and you pull the plug out from the wall,
54:35 there's no electricity flowing
54:37 and so the light goes out and you're in darkness.
54:41 So if we're plugged by faith into Christ,
54:44 if we are trusting in God, we have life,
54:46 especially eternal life.
54:48 But if we reject Christ,
54:49 if we reject eternal life,
54:51 the end result is darkness and death.
54:53 So it's not that God creates death,
54:55 death is just the natural result of rebellion against God
54:58 for without God there is no life,
55:00 the only other alternate would be death.
55:02 Stay with us,
55:03 we're gonna take some Bible questions in just a moment.
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55:11 We hope you understand your Bible even better than before.
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55:24 - Hello friends, welcome back.
55:25 We have about two and a half minutes.
55:27 For those of you who are listening on land based stations,
55:30 we had to say goodbye to those who are on satellite radio,
55:33 but those who are watching on the internet
55:34 and also land based stations,
55:36 we've got some of your email Bible questions
55:39 that have come in
55:40 and so we're gonna try and give an answer
55:41 to as many of these questions as we can
55:43 in the next two minutes.
55:44 What's the first question?
55:45 - Yeah, the first question we have here is,
55:46 what will we be doing in heaven throughout all of eternity?
55:51 - All right.
55:52 Sometimes people think,
55:53 well, is it gonna be boring in heaven?
55:54 Are we just gonna sit on a cloud and play a harp?
55:55 No.
55:56 The Bible says, "eye has not seen nor ear heard.
55:59 Neither has it entered to the heart of man
56:01 the things that God is preparing for those that love Him."
56:05 So we can't even begin to imagine
56:06 all of the exciting and fun things
56:08 we're gonna be doing in heaven.
56:10 We do know that we're gonna be building our own houses
56:12 in the earth made new,
56:13 and we'll be inhabiting them
56:15 and we'll be going up from one Sabbath to another
56:17 to worship before the Lord.
56:19 We are gonna have friendships.
56:21 We might even be able to travel to other worlds
56:24 and travel through the universe.
56:25 So we don't know,
56:27 the Bible doesn't tell us exactly what we're gonna do,
56:29 but the Bible does say
56:30 it's gonna be better than you can even imagine.
56:32 What's our next question?
56:34 - Yeah, we have Judy and she wants to know
56:37 where in the Bible does it describe angels having wings?
56:42 - Okay.
56:43 Well, we have a couple of references.
56:44 Revelation chapter four describes God's throne room
56:47 and it talks about these four living creatures.
56:50 You read in Ezekiel,
56:51 they are spoken of as Cherubim and Seraphim,
56:54 and they have six wings.
56:56 Two wings they cover their feet,
56:57 two wings they fly,
56:58 two wings they cover their face.
57:00 So these are angelic beings and they have wings.
57:03 We also know that the angel Gabriel
57:05 when he appeared to Daniel,
57:08 in response to Daniel's prayer,
57:09 the angel said, "I was caused to fly swiftly."
57:12 So apparently the angel can fly.
57:15 We know Gabriel is an angel.
57:16 So yes, there are references to wings in in the Bible
57:19 that these heavenly beings have,
57:21 but these wings
57:23 are not the kind of wings that we think of here
57:25 that you need to be able to flap to get airborne.
57:28 They can fly in space.
57:31 What do we have next?
57:32 - Yeah, great answer.
57:33 Next question is,
57:35 why did God choose to cast the devil to the earth?
57:39 - Okay.
57:40 Why did God choose cast the devil to the earth?
57:41 Well, He didn't choose to cast the devil to the earth.
57:44 But when the devil came and tempted Adam and Eve,
57:46 the devil claimed,
57:47 because Adam was given dominion over the earth
57:49 when Adam sinned,
57:51 that dominion passed from Adam to Satan,
57:53 and Satan claimed the earth as his.
57:55 Matter of fact,
57:57 Jesus said that the devil is the prince of this earth.
57:59 But when Jesus died on the cross and He rose again,
58:01 He became the second Adam,
58:03 now He is our representative.
58:05 The devil has lost that dominion.
58:07 - Amen.
58:08 - So he is here on the earth
58:09 going around like a roaring lion.
58:10 Friends, thank you for joining us.
58:12 We look forward to visiting again next week.
58:14 God bless.
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