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00:44 Now, here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:48 Pastor Doug Bachelor.
00:50 - Hello friends, how are you doing?
00:51 Would you like to hear an amazing fact?
00:55 In our world, death is a universal fact of life,
00:58 unless you're a jellyfish,
01:00 this has been revealed in a new study by researchers
01:03 at the University of Ovadias in Spain,
01:07 The jellyfish Turritopsis Dohrnii is the only known species
01:13 that appears to be able to rejuvenate repeatedly
01:14 after reproduction, becoming biologically immortal.
01:19 Scientists are hoping its DNA might hold the answer
01:22 to the secret of eternal life.
01:24 Most creatures age because their DNA degrades over time,
01:28 but the T. Dohrnii pulls off an amazing biological feat
01:32 to cheat death.
01:33 Every member of the species is an identical clone,
01:37 and it starts life as a polyp that then matures
01:40 to an organism called a medusa,
01:42 this isn't particularly unique,
01:44 but what's amazing about the T. Dohrnii
01:46 is that if the medusas get injured, sick, or old,
01:50 they become a cyst that turns back into a polyp
01:53 and restarts the whole process, churning out more clones,
01:58 scientists call it lifecycle reversal.
02:01 It'd be something like if a person got old
02:03 and turned back into a fetus,
02:04 or a chicken turned back into an egg.
02:07 Christian scientists have often wondered,
02:09 how can we have eternal bodies in heaven
02:13 like this immortal jellyfish, seems to have been giving us
02:16 some valuable insights on how DNA can repair itself,
02:20 and I think this is fascinating, Pastor Ross,
02:23 I've always wondered, you know,
02:25 doesn't everything grow old?
02:26 And how do we have eternal, glorified bodies,
02:30 bodies that are doing real things?
02:32 Well, this gives us a little insight that, well,
02:34 there's at least one creature down here
02:36 that seems to have DNA that doesn't degrade.
02:38 - It's really remarkable when you think about it.
02:40 So this octopus gets old, or jellyfish gets old,
02:45 and then it figures, "Well, my life's coming to an end,
02:48 so I'm gonna grow this little nodule,"
02:49 and from that eventually develops into another octopus
02:53 and has the same DNA, so it's not exactly the same octopus
02:56 that, you know- - The jellyfish.
02:58 - Oh, jellyfish,
02:59 not the exact same one, but nevertheless,
03:01 it's coming from the jellyfish, so it just continues.
03:05 - Yeah. - It's rather interesting.
03:07 - So yeah, I was researching a little bit today
03:09 on what causes aging and the scientists have sort of agreed
03:12 there is no one silver bullet.
03:14 Aging seems to happen because a lot of things
03:17 start to happen at the same time.
03:19 So even if you found a solution for the DNA,
03:21 there's other things and it's like a perfect storm
03:24 as you get older, and I suppose whatever God had
03:29 in that tree of life would have the enzymes
03:32 or whatever it is that we're missing now,
03:35 but we'll have that in heaven, DNA won't grow old
03:37 and we won't grow old.
03:39 You know, there's that promise in Revelation 21:4,
03:42 "And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes,
03:45 and there'll be no more death nor sorrow nor crying,
03:49 neither shall there be any more pain,
03:51 for the former things have passed away,"
03:53 a world with no more death.
03:56 - You know, sometimes people hear about heaven
03:58 and they think, "Wow, this place where you live forever
04:00 and everything's perfect, could it really be real?"
04:03 Well, the Bible says it's real,
04:04 it's the home of the redeemed, and we have a book,
04:07 it's called "Heaven, Is It For Real?"
04:08 And this is the free offer, we're happy to send it to anyone
04:11 who would call and ask.
04:12 The number to call is 800-835-6747,
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04:17 It's actually one of our books, not just the study guide,
04:20 it's an actual book, it's called "Heaven, Is It For Real?"
04:23 We'll be happy to send that out to anyone
04:25 who calls and asks.
04:26 Now, we do have listeners that are outside of North America,
04:28 and if you'd like to read the book,
04:29 we encourage you to go to the website,
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04:35 on our library at the website.
04:37 - Amen. - Well, pastor,
04:39 we have a number of callers who are lined up,
04:40 so before we get to it though,
04:42 let's start with a word of prayer.
04:44 Dear Father, we want to thank You for the opportunity
04:46 to be able to open Your Word and study.
04:48 Indeed, Lord, Your Word is a lamp to our feet
04:50 and a light to our path, and for us to come to a knowledge
04:53 of the truth is life.
04:54 So we do ask Your blessing upon our time,
04:56 be with those who are listening, wherever they might be,
04:59 in Jesus' name, amen.
05:01 - Amen.
05:02 - Well, we've got a number of callers who are lined up here,
05:04 and so we're gonna go to our first caller this evening.
05:06 We've got Martha listening in California.
05:09 Martha, welcome to the program.
05:11 - [Martha] Hi, thank you, pastors.
05:15 My question tonight, it's only come up a couple times,
05:18 but it was always in a professional situation
05:22 and wasn't an appropriate discussion for the time,
05:26 but I've had the comment made to me more than once
05:30 that Jonathan and David were homosexual lovers.
05:37 Now, I know they loved each other a lot, but you know,
05:39 the way God spoke of them, I know that's not true,
05:43 I just wanna know how to handle it scripturally.
05:47 - Yeah, I would actually say
05:48 that the question really begs the evidence,
05:53 what would lead a person to say that?
05:56 They're assuming because it says that David loved Jonathan,
05:59 it actually says, when Jonathan died, David says,
06:02 "I loved you more than the love of a man for a woman."
06:05 Well, that is not homosexuality,
06:08 that's saying it's different,
06:10 and clearly Jonathan was married and had children,
06:13 he had a son named Mephiboshet, David had at least 10 wives,
06:19 and I think it's just kind of part of our sick society,
06:23 they're assuming that if a man loves a friend,
06:25 it must be sexual, but there's nothing in the text to hint
06:32 that the love of David and Jonathan was anything other
06:34 than a profound love of two friends that were of one heart.
06:39 Yeah.
06:40 So it's hard to persuade people
06:42 that have their minds made up to read something into it
06:44 that's not in there.
06:46 - Mm-hmm, absolutely.
06:47 All right, well, thank you, Martha.
06:49 We've got Brittany listening also from California.
06:51 Brittany, welcome to the program.
06:54 - [Brittany] Hey. (laughs)
06:56 - Hi, and your question.
07:00 - [Brittany] Well, my question is, who is the Antichrist?
07:04 - Ooh, big question.
07:07 Well, in a nutshell, and the word Antichrist, you know,
07:11 it means against, Antichrist is something or power
07:14 that is against Christ.
07:16 Historically, the Protestant church felt like the church
07:23 that had developed in Rome fulfilled that definition
07:26 of the Mother of Harlots, you know,
07:28 the church is compared to a bride,
07:31 and they had believed,
07:33 the Protestant reformers like Luther and Calvin
07:35 and everyone from Spurgeon to Wesley,
07:37 they saw what happened with the church
07:39 becoming a political power in Rome,
07:42 that it had become Antichrist in its teachings,
07:46 that didn't mean that all the Roman Catholics were lost,
07:49 it meant that its organization,
07:51 its structure began to teach things
07:53 that were contrary to Christ.
07:55 You know, things, for one thing,
07:56 they got involved in idolatry.
07:58 I think everyone can see that
07:59 that's one of the commandments
08:01 and the regal way that the priests and the popes
08:04 were treated when Jesus was, you know,
08:07 He didn't have a place to lie His head,
08:10 and they're the representatives or the "vicars of Christ".
08:14 Typically, the Protestants identified the papacy
08:18 as the Antichrist,
08:20 more specifically the office of the Pope.
08:22 - And the Antichrist, as you said,
08:23 is one who is opposed to Christ,
08:26 but it also has an added definition,
08:29 and that is to put oneself-
08:30 - [Both] In the place of Christ,
08:31 - Receiving worship or homage,
08:33 and of course we know that, from the medieval church,
08:35 that crept into Christianity.
08:37 - [Doug] Now, we have a lesson.
08:38 - We do, it's called "Who is the Antichrist,"
08:40 we'll be happy to send that to you, Brittany,
08:42 or anyone who calls and asks.
08:43 The number to call is 800-835-6747 and you can ask
08:47 for the study guide, it's called "Who Is The Antichrist?"
08:50 and we'll send it to you,
08:51 it's part of the Amazing Facts Study Guides,
08:53 it's a whole series of lessons,
08:55 they get into a number of very important topics
08:57 in the Bible, and we encourage you,
08:59 if you have not gone through those lessons,
09:01 you need to do so, just also ask.
09:02 When you call, say,
09:04 "I'd like to enroll in the free Amazing Facts Bible course,"
09:06 and I'll be happy to do that.
09:08 We've got Anthony listening in New York.
09:10 Anthony, welcome to the program.
09:14 - [Anthony] Hello, good evening, Pastors.
09:16 - Evening. - My question,
09:19 it has to do with two verses, Matthew 24, verse.
09:26 - I think we lost you.
09:27 Can you press Anthony again there?
09:30 - [Anthony] Sorry, yes, Matthew 24:29
09:33 and Revelation 6:13-14, and I wanna know
09:37 how to reconcile the two because I've always learned that,
09:40 you know, they said some of the moon turning to blood,
09:45 and the sun darkening, and the stars falling
09:47 has already happened in the past.
09:49 I've heard that in, you know, Revelation seminars,
09:51 they said these things have happened already,
09:53 but then in Matthew 24:29
09:56 it appears to say that it's gonna happen
09:59 after the great tribulation.
10:01 - [Doug] Yep.
10:02 - [Anthony] So I'm just trying to figure out
10:03 how to reconcile those two.
10:04 - No, that's a good, that's a good, legitimate question.
10:07 There are some of the prophecies that Jesus gives,
10:09 especially in Matthew 24, where you've actually got
10:14 the prophecies repeat themselves,
10:15 you might call it a dual application.
10:18 An example will be the disciples are asking three questions
10:22 in Matthew 24, they say, "When will these things be?"
10:25 He had just said Jerusalem would be destroyed,
10:27 there would not be left one stone upon another
10:29 at the temple,
10:31 so they're asking about the destruction of Jerusalem,
10:33 then they said, "Now, what is the sign of your coming?"
10:35 So they're asking about signs in the end of the world,
10:39 so He gives them signs through history,
10:40 He talks about the destruction of Jerusalem,
10:42 and He gives 'em more specific things about His return
10:46 and the end of the world.
10:48 So the things that happened with the sun turning dark
10:52 and the moon turning to blood
10:53 and the stars falling from heaven,
10:56 there have been, historically, some, and a great earthquake,
11:00 there have historically been some great cases
11:03 of these things that happened after the time periods
11:07 given in the prophecy, but they will happen again
11:10 in quick succession at the return of Christ.
11:14 So I guess the easy answer is to say
11:17 they happen more than once,
11:19 it's what you would call a dual application of prophecy.
11:21 - Yes, there's also two tribulations
11:23 that's spoken of both in Matthew 24 and also in Revelation.
11:27 You have the 1,260 years of papal supremacy
11:31 from 538 until 1798, that was a time of trouble,
11:35 there was a tribulation for Bible-believing Christians,
11:38 many of them were persecuted.
11:39 Yeah, the Protestant Reformation,
11:42 that's one time of trouble,
11:43 but then you have another time of trouble
11:45 according to Daniel 10.
11:47 Oh, Daniel chapter, where is it?
11:49 12 verse one, where Michael stands up
11:51 and there is a great time of trouble,
11:53 worse than the world has ever seen,
11:54 that hasn't yet happened, that's in the future,
11:57 so there are two times of trouble.
11:58 So immediately after the tribulation-
12:00 - I would argue-
12:01 - Those days. - There were three times
12:01 of trouble.
12:02 I think that you- - Oh, you mean Jerusalem
12:03 as well? - Yeah, absolutely.
12:04 - Yeah. - Yeah, he's also
12:05 talking about the fall of Jerusalem,
12:06 so that that would be one. - Yeah.
12:07 And then of course,
12:10 Jesus said immediately after the tribulation of those days,
12:12 then there'll be, you know, a great earthquake,
12:14 the sun will turn dark, and so on,
12:16 and we have the Lisbon earthquake in 1755
12:18 all the way up to the falling of the stars in 1833.
12:21 - Yep. - So we have succession
12:23 of the dark day and the blood moon.
12:24 - And the concentrated places of Christianity on the planet
12:28 saw these things, and so they even took them as signs
12:31 in the day they were happening.
12:33 - All right, well,
12:34 thank you, Nicole. - Thanks, friend,
12:34 good question.
12:35 - We got E. Frank listening from New York.
12:36 E. Frank, welcome to the program.
12:39 - [E. Frank] Yes, good evening, Pastor Doug-
12:42 - Evening. - And Pastor Ross,
12:44 I have a question that's been bothering me,
12:47 my person, for many, many years now,
12:49 it's in regards to the Quaker faith.
12:53 I have a story that has to do with a girl
13:00 that was in my second grade class,
13:02 she would always be attached to me and offer me membership
13:05 in the friends meeting, Quaker society,
13:09 and I asked her at that time
13:11 if Quaker's believe in holy scripture,
13:15 and she said, "No, not, we don't believe in scripture,
13:18 we believe that God works within us
13:20 and that God works
13:22 through every single human being on earth,
13:24 we don't believe in discriminating against anyone,
13:27 and we certainly we apply the teachings of Jesus
13:31 most of the time to our beliefs,"
13:34 and I am very confused because they do say
13:37 that they believe in Christ, they believe in the Bible,
13:40 but they profess to have a belief in humanism,
13:47 in other words, so could you rectify that, Pastor Doug?
13:50 - Well, I'll do my best, of course, the Quaker religion,
13:52 as with a number of denominations, you know,
13:55 the Lutherans today are different from the Lutherans
13:58 in the days of Martin Luther.
14:00 Methodists today, Calvinists are different
14:03 than they were in the days of John Wesley or John Calvin,
14:07 the Quakers today, their beliefs, you know,
14:10 originally they were trying to base their beliefs
14:12 off the Bible,
14:14 but over time they began to put more and more emphasis
14:16 on the inner feeling and the spirit,
14:18 so pretty soon they got where the feelings
14:21 and the spirit, and the experience began to trump scripture,
14:27 and it was more important.
14:29 I remember growing up eating a lot of Quaker oatmeal
14:32 with the, you know,
14:33 the picture of the Puritan-looking Quaker with a hat
14:35 and so forth, but they've changed quite a bit
14:38 over the years, and it's more like a society now,
14:42 because if you wanna argue with them from scripture,
14:46 you probably won't get very far.
14:48 They use some scripture, you know, they believe
14:49 in loving their brothers and they're a nonviolent
14:53 when it comes to war,
14:55 but in a number of other doctrinal areas,
14:59 it's pretty, diverges pretty far from scripture,
15:03 so I hope that helps a little, E. Frank,
15:04 thank you for your question.
15:06 - Next caller we have is Derek, listening in Minnesota.
15:08 Derek, welcome to the program.
15:11 - [Derek] Well, hi, Pastor Doug.
15:12 Hi, Pastor Ross.
15:13 - Hi.
15:14 - I have a quick question,
15:16 I brought this out in my Sabbath school
15:18 and the elder gave me a really weird look
15:20 like it was blasphemous, but I thought you,
15:22 I've heard you mention sort of that Jesus
15:24 had Joseph's DNA somehow,
15:27 and I'm not really sure how you explained it,
15:29 but I mentioned it and they looked at me like I was crazy,
15:32 so I wasn't sure what you think.
15:35 - Well, let me be clear,
15:36 and I think when I did make that statement,
15:38 I've tried to also be clear that, you know,
15:39 we don't have a DNA sample of Jesus
15:41 to measure with a DNA sample of Joseph.
15:44 To give you an answer on that,
15:46 the Bible says that Christ was conceived of the Holy Spirit,
15:50 and I've talked to Jewish scholars before that said
15:55 that, these are Jewish Christians,
15:57 they said that it's entirely possible for God
16:01 to inseminate Mary with the Holy Spirit
16:05 and something divine, and still have attributes of Joseph,
16:08 is certainly not hard for the Lord,
16:11 and one of their arguments for that
16:12 is that the genealogy of Jesus, the one given in Matthew,
16:18 follows the line of Joseph to David,
16:22 and if there's no blood relation to Joseph,
16:24 why does that happen?
16:25 Well, you know, that's one argument,
16:28 and then of course the genealogy in Luke,
16:31 I think is tracing through Joseph's father-in-law,
16:35 which would be Mary's father, so, you know, we don't know,
16:39 but it's entirely possible that God took something
16:46 of Joseph also and had that in Mary,
16:53 it certainly was a miraculous event,
16:57 but I would not die on that mountain, it was just a theory.
17:01 - All right, well, thank you, Derek,
17:02 and of course, just to clarify,
17:03 you fully agreed that, you know, Christ was miraculously,
17:08 Mary was a virgin
17:09 when she gave birth-
17:10 - Yes. - To Jesus.
17:11 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
17:12 - There's no question
17:13 about that- - when it says,
17:14 "Conceived by the Holy Spirit,
17:15 I was just saying that whatever that sperm is
17:18 that God used to inseminate Mary,
17:21 it would not have been beyond the Lord
17:23 to have some attributes of Joseph.
17:25 I don't know, you know?
17:26 - Right. - So, yeah.
17:29 - Okay, that was that. - If that happens,
17:30 that solves a problem of why the two genealogies.
17:32 - Right, right.
17:34 All right, thank you.
17:35 Julie is listening in South Dakota.
17:37 Julie, welcome to the program.
17:39 - [Julie] Oh, well thank you very much, pastors.
17:42 I was wondering,
17:43 I believe that Jesus is going to return very soon
17:46 and so what can a person do to make sure they're saved
17:49 before He returns?
17:52 - Well, first of all,
17:54 I wouldn't let the return of Christ be the only motive,
17:56 I think every one of us is blessed
17:59 to have another day of life and another breath or heartbeat,
18:02 and so we wanna know immediately.
18:06 Say, "Lord, is my life in Your hands?"
18:09 And to follow the simple criteria that God gives,
18:12 to come humbly, sincerely, confess that we are sinners,
18:18 confess our sins to God, repent of our sins
18:20 and say you accept the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross
18:25 and His shed blood in your behalf,
18:28 that you might be forgiven and given a new birth,
18:31 a new heart, and a new life,
18:34 and I'd say you might need to do that more than once.
18:37 In other words, Paul said, "I die daily,"
18:39 means he died to himself every day.
18:42 Experienced a new birth each day
18:45 and just keep your relationship with the Lord
18:49 fresh and growing, and we've got a book
18:52 on three steps to heaven. - That's right,
18:54 that's what I was thinking about, it's a great resource,
18:56 kind of help encourage anyone how you can have
18:58 that daily connection with Christ,
19:00 it's called "Three Steps to Heaven,"
19:02 we'll be happy to send the book to anyone
19:03 who calls and asks.
19:05 The number again is 800-835-6747, just ask for the book,
19:09 it's called "Three Steps to Heaven,"
19:11 we'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
19:14 We've got Gina listening in California.
19:16 Gina, welcome to the program.
19:18 - [Gina] Thank you so much, hello, pastors.
19:21 Please, my question is about being meek,
19:25 meekness from the Bible,
19:27 because that does not mean weak,
19:30 and we're called to be soldiers for Christ, and so please,
19:33 could you give a better definition or some examples?
19:38 - Yeah, you know, well, for one thing,
19:39 the Bible talks about Moses as being one of the meekest mans
19:43 in all of the earth.
19:44 Moses was very strong leader in the way
19:47 that he boldly went before Pharaoh and said,
19:49 "Let my people go."
19:50 Jesus was incredibly strong and courageous and brave,
19:55 but He was also very humble
19:58 in that He would not claim His rights.
20:00 He, you know, took children up in His arms,
20:02 He was, the Bible says He was gentle and lowly.
20:06 Now people confuse meekness with weakness,
20:09 and they really are completely different things.
20:12 You could have a very brave, courageous,
20:15 strong man who's also meek and humble,
20:19 and so there, one is, you know, an attitude of humility,
20:24 it's not a trait of weakness.
20:27 - All right, well, thank you, Gina.
20:29 Next call is Perlita listening in New York.
20:32 Perlita, welcome to the program.
20:35 - [Perlita] Yes, sir.
20:36 I want to ask to our pastor about Matthew 20:30
20:43 It says here, "At that time, the sign of the son of man
20:48 will appear in the sky
20:50 and all the nations of the earth will mourn,
20:53 they will see the son of man
20:55 coming on the clouds of the sky
20:58 with power and glory."
21:01 Is this the rapture of the church, pastor?
21:05 - Well, when they see the Lord coming,
21:08 this is a visible coming of the Lord.
21:11 This is connected with 1 Thessalonians 4
21:14 where it says that the Lord Himself will descend from heaven
21:18 "with a shout, with the voice of the archangel,
21:20 the trump of God, the dead in Christ will rise,
21:23 then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together
21:26 with them in the clouds, so shall we ever be with the Lord."
21:29 So when we are caught up after our bodies are transformed,
21:33 that is a rapture, it's just not a secret
21:36 because you got a trumpet the glory of the Lord
21:38 coming with the angels,
21:40 so we would respectfully disagree with those who say
21:43 that the people are gonna disappear secretly,
21:47 we think it's a very visible rapture that takes place,
21:50 that's what the word rapture means, to be caught up.
21:53 - So the Bible teaches that when Jesus comes,
21:55 life's not gonna continue on earth normally,
21:58 the dead are gonna be destroyed
21:59 by the brightness of His coming,
22:00 the righteous are gonna be caught up
22:02 into the air with Jesus.
22:04 So yes, nothing secret about the second coming of Christ.
22:07 - People will take the verse where it says,
22:08 "But He's coming as a thief,"
22:10 and they think that means secretly,
22:11 but they've gotta read that whole verse
22:13 in 2 Peter 3, and I think it starts with verse eight.
22:17 It says, "The day of the Lord will come as a thief
22:19 in the night, in which the heavens pass away
22:22 with a great noise and the elements melt with fervent heat,
22:25 and the earth and the things in it are burned up."
22:28 So as Pastor Ross said, when the Lord comes as a thief,
22:31 life doesn't go on for seven more years.
22:33 - You know, got a book talking about this
22:35 called "Anything But Secret," and again, we'll send this
22:38 to anyone who calls and asks,
22:39 the number is 800-835-6747.
22:42 You can ask for the book, it's called "Anything But Secret,"
22:45 it's all about the second coming of Christ
22:47 and the rapture of the saints.
22:48 When we are caught up to meet Jesus in the air,
22:51 what happens to the wicked?
22:52 Thank you for your call.
22:53 Next caller that we have is,
22:55 we got Moby, listening in Canada.
22:58 Moby, welcome.
23:02 Moby in Canada. - Hello.
23:03 - Yes, you're on the air.
23:05 - [Moby] Good evening.
23:07 - Evening!
23:09 And your question.
23:11 - [Moby] Yes, I have a question regarding, you know,
23:15 I'm a first year student,
23:17 I'm doing computer science in a STEM course.
23:22 We're in, I mean, like, I'm in the academic world, you know,
23:26 it's just, I'm just infiltrated with, you know,
23:29 teaching of evolution and, you know,
23:32 I just doubt, you know, creation and,
23:35 you know, what the purpose of human life is,
23:37 I've been really doubting it,
23:41 can you show me verses to, you know,
23:44 help me to encourage my faith?
23:47 - Yeah, well, as far as verses,
23:48 there's no question if you believe the Bible,
23:51 it tells us that God created the world in six literal days,
23:54 you'll find that in Genesis 1 and 2,
23:57 and several times through the Bible,
24:00 Jesus reiterates that God created everything.
24:03 John says God made all things through Christ,
24:07 and so the divine creation is from cover to cover,
24:10 even in, you know, Revelation 14,
24:12 "Worship Him that made the heaven, and the earth,
24:15 and the sea, and the fountains of water."
24:16 So there's lots of scripture,
24:18 but I used to be an evolutionist,
24:20 and the more I thought about it,
24:22 the more I realized that evolution is extremely illogical,
24:27 and for me the most powerful argument
24:28 is that you have no example anywhere
24:31 in the observable universe
24:34 where you get inner working systems,
24:36 and complicated organized design,
24:38 and all these symbiotic relationships, and just complicated,
24:45 incredibly exquisite design, by chance, you know,
24:51 a human body and the way that our eyes, and our ears,
24:54 and our brains work is so sophisticated,
24:57 the idea that that happened by accident through, you know,
25:01 biologic processes and that we have no purpose,
25:04 we're all just these biological algae on the planet,
25:09 that is so hard to comprehend.
25:13 For example, if you're walking through the desert
25:18 and you see a motorcycle up on a kickstand
25:20 out in the middle of the desert,
25:22 and you know something about motorcycles, and you hop on,
25:25 you kick it, and it starts and you ride off.
25:28 Would you ever, ever believe that that motorcycle
25:30 came out of the sand?
25:33 No, it came from a motorcycle factory where engineers
25:35 worked a long time on developing that motorcycle
25:37 and very, an international process of assembling the parts
25:42 of materials to make that motorcycle.
25:44 You know, and it'd accept that it's extremely complicated,
25:48 we are much more complicated than a car or a motorcycle,
25:53 and to think that these inner working systems
25:55 happen by accident, to me is a powerful proof
25:59 that there has to be an intelligent God
26:02 for the complexity of life we have on our planet.
26:04 - You know, we got a book,
26:06 it's called "How Evolution Flunked the Science Test,"
26:08 and it talks about these dilemmas that, well,
26:12 science can't explain, and we'll be happy to send this
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29:28 to Bible Answers Live,
29:29 and for any of you who tuned in along the way,
29:31 this is a live international interactive Bible study
29:35 and we're just so thankful that you're joining us.
29:37 My name is Doug Bachelor.
29:39 - My name is John Ross,
29:40 and we have Anastasia who is listening in Canada.
29:44 Anastasia, welcome to the program.
29:46 - [Anastasia] Hey, hello.
29:47 - Hi.
29:49 - [Anastasia] Hi, I just had a question about,
29:51 I think it's Proverbs 13 when it talks about,
29:54 "Don't spare the rod and spoil the child,"
29:59 so to me I think that's like a metaphor for discipline,
30:02 but, like, I know some people might think
30:06 that literally means, like, if your kid's doing bad things,
30:09 like, hit them.
30:10 Like, I've heard people say that before
30:11 and I'm not too sure,
30:14 I'm pretty sure, like, Jesus doesn't hit us
30:16 when we do things wrong,
30:18 so I just want to know your take on that.
30:21 - Yeah, well, the Lord is, of course, a loving God,
30:23 but I think the Bible does teach that God disciplines us,
30:29 and it doesn't mean that He smacks us down with a rod
30:32 every time we do something wrong,
30:33 there's a a broad spectrum of ways
30:36 that you might discipline your child,
30:39 it might be quiet time,
30:41 it might be taking away some privilege,
30:43 but the Bible also says that the Lord chastens every son
30:46 who he loves, I think it's in Hebrews
30:48 as well as in Proverbs,
30:51 and sometimes that might mean doing something
30:55 where you inflict appropriate pain
31:00 it might be on the posterior,
31:01 and now I've got six kids and you know,
31:05 sometimes because I love them and I don't want them to die,
31:10 when they kept meandering off into the street
31:14 after I'd say, "Do not go on the street,
31:16 do not go on the street,"
31:18 and they wouldn't listen, out of love for them,
31:22 I might give them a little bit of pain so that,
31:26 you know, spank 'em.
31:28 I know, there I said the word, that they might go,
31:32 "Ooh, that hurts, I don't wanna do that again."
31:35 The fact is that everybody remembers
31:42 the way we learn is through pain.
31:44 You know, the reason I don't keep grabbing things
31:46 off the stove without a pot holder is 'cause I've done it
31:49 without a pot holder, and that just,
31:50 you only have to do it once or twice and then you learn.
31:53 It's interesting.
31:55 Real quick, a couple weeks ago I was cutting wood
31:58 in the hills and I tossed a piece of wood
32:01 on a yellow jacket nest and they came swarming out
32:04 like a bit twice, I will never drive by that spot again,
32:09 even though they'll be gone soon,
32:11 I'll never drive by that spot again
32:13 and forget that experience, I'll always know.
32:17 And so if something about pain helps us survive,
32:20 and so sometimes you might paddle a child if-
32:24 - Yeah, especially if the child is young now, you know,
32:26 obviously when they're old enough to make decisions and you-
32:29 - Like 21,
32:30 you start stopping- - You've gotta try
32:30 some creative things,
32:31 when they get a little older.
32:33 But when a child is young,
32:34 sometimes you need to kind of slap them on the hand and say,
32:37 "That's hot, don't touch it."
32:38 - Yeah. - Because you don't
32:39 want them to hurt themselves.
32:40 So the verse you're referring to,
32:41 you've got, of course, Proverbs 3:12,
32:43 but then also Hebrews 12:6, it says,
32:45 "For whom the Lord loves, He chastens,
32:48 and scourges every son whom He receives."
32:51 So there we have the idea of God does bring discipline
32:55 to guide us and lead us.
32:57 All right, thank you, Anastasia.
32:58 We got Terrence listening from North Carolina.
33:01 Terrence, welcome to the program.
33:03 - [Terrence] Hey, thanks for taking my call.
33:05 I got a question for you as in reference to,
33:09 according to our rewarded, according to our works,
33:11 and Romans 2:6,
33:14 there's a dozen of verses for this,
33:17 and I guess it would be a little humorous
33:21 for Pastor Doug here.
33:23 Would Pastor Doug be in a mansion and I would have a tent?
33:25 I mean, what does it mean by, "According to our works?"
33:28 - Oh, well, you know,
33:31 I think that there are varying degrees
33:33 of reward and punishment according to the Bible.
33:36 First, let's talk about punishment.
33:39 Jesus said he that knew his masters well
33:42 and did not do it will be beaten with many stripes
33:44 because he knew what God wanted, he that did not know
33:47 and did not do it will be beaten with few stripes.
33:50 Just notice they're both gonna be punished but differently,
33:55 one many, one few, so there's varying degrees of punishment.
33:58 Obviously the duration and intensity of pain
34:02 that Adolph Hitler will experience in the lake of fire
34:05 would be more severe than some lost, you know,
34:09 18-year-old that committed suicide,
34:12 sadly though they may be lost,
34:14 they're not gonna experience the same degree of punishment
34:16 as Adolph Hitler.
34:18 Same thing with rewards,
34:20 there are those who have given more,
34:22 and sacrificed more, and loved the Lord, and had, you know,
34:26 more good works and more self-denial,
34:28 they may surprise everybody and people that we even know
34:32 nothing about could be leading the parade in heaven
34:35 and they'll have greater rewards,
34:37 whether that means a bigger mansion, I don't know,
34:39 some people (indistinct) anything,
34:42 but whatever the rewards are,
34:43 they're gonna be honored somehow more in the kingdom.
34:46 - You know, you think of some people
34:48 who actually gave their life
34:49 as a martyr. - Yeah.
34:50 - You got Stephen, for example,
34:53 and God rewards each person according to their works
34:55 and how faithful they were in difficult situations.
34:57 - They gave everything for the Lord, yeah.
34:59 - You know,
35:00 the verse you're referring to
35:01 about the punishment of the wicked is Luke 12:48 that says,
35:04 "He who knew the will of his master and did not do it
35:06 shall be beaten with many stripes,
35:08 whereas the one who didn't, few stripes."
35:10 So there's the verse, Luke 12:48.
35:13 Next caller that we have is Evan, listening from Mexico.
35:16 Evan, welcome to the program.
35:20 - [Evan] Good evening, pastors.
35:21 I have a question for you, guys, in regards to this verse.
35:25 (sighs) I got the wrong verse.
35:27 - Oh, sorry.
35:29 - I wanted the one, clarity on where Jesus,
35:33 where it says in the scriptures where Jesus went down
35:36 to the heart of the earth and freed the captives,
35:39 or something like that. - You're talking, I think,
35:40 is it 1 Peter 2, Pastor Ross, where it says
35:45 he preached to the spirits in prison?
35:48 - Yeah, that's it, that's it.
35:50 - Yeah.
35:51 And I think it might be, let me see.
35:52 1 Peter 2, I'm just, I'm going for memory now.
35:56 No. - 1 Peter 3.
35:58 - Three. - Verse 19.
35:59 - There it is, yeah.
36:01 - 18-19. - Yeah, "For Christ
36:03 also suffered once for sins,
36:04 the just for the unjust,
36:06 that He might bring us to God,
36:07 being put to death in the flesh, but made alive
36:10 in the Spirit."
36:11 Now, the emphasis here is the Spirit by whom,
36:15 through the Spirit, He went and preached
36:17 to the spirits in prison, in other words,
36:19 spirits here is small S,
36:21 it's basically saying that it was the same Spirit,
36:24 the Holy Spirit that rose Christ,
36:27 that Spirit strove with people
36:30 who formerly were disobedient,
36:32 "When once the divine longsuffering waited
36:35 in the days of Noah," God was longsuffering,
36:38 that's when God says,
36:39 and Peter is quoting from Genesis 6:3.
36:43 where He says, "My Spirit will not always strive with man,
36:46 his days will be 120 years."
36:49 Well, that's pretty longsuffering,
36:50 to give a person 120 years.
36:52 So Peter just saying the same Spirit that strove
36:55 with the lost, people imprisoned by the devil,
36:58 imprisoned by sin, the Bible says that, you know,
37:01 people are held captive by their sins.
37:03 That same Spirit is the Spirit that rose Jesus.
37:06 Jesus did not go from the cross down to some cavern of hell
37:12 and preach to give lost people a second chance,
37:15 that would go against everything else the Bible says,
37:17 where it tells us, "It's appointed unto man once to die,
37:20 after that, the judgment,"
37:21 it's not, "Die, second chance, then judgment,"
37:25 so this is an often misunderstood verse.
37:29 - All right, does that help, Evan?
37:32 - [Evan] Well, yeah, I was just wondering,
37:33 well, who are the captives that He freed?
37:36 - Well, it's talking about that
37:39 when Noah preached in the days before the flood,
37:42 God preached to those that were in prison
37:45 and the Lord, through the same Spirit, He strove with them.
37:49 Some of the people during that 120 years were saved
37:53 before the flood, for one thing, Enoch was saved,
37:56 Methuselah was saved, they all died before the flood.
37:59 Unfortunately, as far as the flood,
38:02 just Noah and his family,
38:03 there were eight souls that were saved,
38:05 and Peter mentions that later on also.
38:09 - All right, well, thanks for your call.
38:10 We've got Carol listening in Oregon.
38:12 Carol, welcome to the program.
38:14 - [Carol] Good evening, gentlemen.
38:15 Thank you for taking my call.
38:18 It's about the new moon.
38:19 I understand it was a holiday or Sabbath
38:23 or something observed in the Old Testament,
38:26 but I must confess a degree of ignorance.
38:30 I've seen it mentioned now and again in the Bible,
38:34 in the same sentence along with the weekly Sabbath,
38:37 like in Isaiah where he says, "One new moon to the next
38:42 and one Sabbath to the next, all flesh
38:44 will come to worship,"
38:45 and I believe in the New Testament too.
38:47 I thought it was Colossians,
38:49 I think St. Paul also mentioned the two
38:52 in the same sentence as though
38:54 there were some link between them,
38:56 but I don't know enough about the new moon to really tell,
39:00 so I was hoping you could fill in the picture.
39:03 - Well, yeah, well, I'll do my best.
39:05 The Jewish calendar was a lunar calendar,
39:07 it was governed by the months and the word month we get
39:10 from the word moon, they're related,
39:12 and so they had the division of time.
39:15 There was the week, which was, of course, every Sabbath,
39:19 new week began, you had the seventh day,
39:21 then you followed that at first, the month,
39:23 they had a 27-day calendar, followed the lunar cycle.
39:28 The Jews would correct, they'd correlate the solar year
39:34 with the lunar year by adding a month,
39:36 I think it was every 13 years,
39:37 they would add a month to compensate,
39:39 and so they actually had a very accurate calendar,
39:42 and when it says in heaven, "From one new moon to another,
39:46 from one sabbath to another,
39:47 all flesh will come and worship before Me."
39:50 Now, I understand that you realize that there are four weeks
39:57 in a month, approximately, I think in heaven,
40:01 that the months are gonna have 28 days exactly,
40:04 so every fourth Sabbath is going to be a new month,
40:09 but it's also a Sabbath,
40:11 and so it's just saying, "From week to week
40:14 and month to month, all flesh will come
40:16 and worship before Me,"
40:19 but the new moons were not part of the original law
40:21 or the Ten Commandments,
40:23 they were more connected with the ceremonial services.
40:26 So I know that's sort of a long meandering answer,
40:28 but appreciate your openness, Carol.
40:30 Hope that made sense.
40:32 - And of course, the new moon could fall on any day
40:34 of the week, whereas the seventh day, Sabbath,
40:36 was always on the seventh day of the week, right?
40:37 It didn't change.
40:38 - Now, we have a book I think that talks
40:40 about feast days and Sabbaths.
40:41 - We do, and we'll be happy to send that to anyone
40:43 who calls and asks.
40:45 Want to learn more about the Old Testament feasts?
40:46 The number to call is 800-835-6747.
40:49 And you can ask for the book "New Moons and Sabbaths,"
40:52 how much of those ceremonial laws are binding today, if any,
40:56 Well, you'll be surprised at what the Bible has to say.
40:59 - Yep. - Next caller
41:00 that we have is Heather, listening from California.
41:02 Heather, welcome to the program.
41:04 - [Heather] Thank you for taking my call.
41:08 So I have a question, is it ungodly and a sin
41:12 to get surgery to remove cancer?
41:14 - Why would you think it might be?
41:16 I mean, something generates your question.
41:19 Are you concerned it's a lack of faith or something?
41:23 - [Heather] It was a life or death thing for me
41:26 'cause I had a uterine cancer and some family members
41:30 were telling me, saying, like,
41:31 if I have the doctors remove my uterus
41:34 due to uncontrolled bleeding, then I'm letting Satan win.
41:41 - No, sorry, I'd respectfully disagree.
41:44 I think that I know too many people
41:46 that have their lives saved and lengthened by having,
41:51 you know, practical surgery.
41:53 You know, you don't wanna go to any quack,
41:55 but if you're following the best medical practices
42:00 and you combine faith with good living practices,
42:04 take care of your health,
42:06 but if there's a medical procedure
42:08 and it's gonna help remove cancer, by all means.
42:12 I mean, even in the Bible when Hezekiah was healed,
42:15 God told Isaiah to have him place a pulpis of figs on his
42:19 boil to use some medical procedure,
42:23 and the Bible tells us in Ezekiel,
42:24 "The leaves of the tree are for medicine."
42:27 So using some medical procedure, Luke,
42:30 the one who wrote the Book of Acts,
42:31 the Gospel of Luke, was a physician.
42:33 There's no Bible mandate that we should not use doctors
42:37 and surgery or medical procedures.
42:39 - And you know, God has given certain gifts
42:40 to certain individuals where they have a keen mind,
42:43 they're able to discern what symptoms might be,
42:46 they're able to address the disease.
42:48 Now, ultimately recognize that all healing
42:50 really comes from God, but God can choose to use doctors,
42:54 and nurses, and medicine, and surgery, and we want our faith
43:00 but also utilize the resources He provided.
43:01 - I thank God for good doctors.
43:03 - Absolutely, thank you for your call.
43:05 We've got, let's see, Iran listening from, or Aaron rather,
43:09 Aaron listening from New York.
43:10 Aaron, welcome to the program.
43:13 - Greeting, Pastors. - Yeah.
43:15 - In the first part of Luke 18,
43:17 Jesus told the parable of the persistent widow,
43:20 teaching His followers to keep praying for something
43:23 and not to give up,
43:24 but in Matthew 6:7
43:28 Jesus said to His followers,
43:30 "Do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do,
43:33 for they think that they will be heard
43:35 for their many words."
43:37 My question is,
43:38 how can we pray persistently without using vain repetitions?
43:43 - Yeah, good question, that's a good question,
43:46 and I needed that answered myself
43:49 when I first read those verses.
43:51 Jesus, when He says, "Do not pray in vain repetition
43:54 as the heathen do," you know there are a lot
43:58 of heathen religions that will,
44:00 they'll count a bead and say, every time they say a bead,
44:02 they repeat a prayer.
44:04 They'll just keep saying the same thing over and over again
44:07 as if God is deaf.
44:09 Now, when Elijah prayed for rain,
44:12 he prayed seven times in one day, "Lord, send the rain,"
44:15 his prayer may have sounded a little different each time,
44:17 but he kept praying for rain.
44:19 If you're praying for a loved one
44:20 or you're praying about a separate issue,
44:23 there's nothing wrong with repeating that prayer.
44:25 Paul says that he prayed three times about a medical problem
44:29 that he had and then God finally said, "No, Paul,
44:32 stop praying about that because the answer's no."
44:35 (Doug chuckles)
44:36 So you know, but if you're praying for something good,
44:41 the children of Israel,
44:42 they prayed for deliverance from their enemies
44:45 for years sometimes.
44:47 So nothing wrong with praying persistently for a good thing,
44:50 you just don't wanna sit there and go,
44:53 "Lord, feed me now, Lord, feed me now, Lord, feed me now,"
44:56 and I've heard heathen prayers that sound like that.
44:58 I would respectfully disagree with the priests
45:02 that tell people that if you wanna be forgiven
45:05 you must repeat the Hail Mary or the Our Father 15 times
45:10 in a row, that's praying in vain repetition,
45:13 but to say, "I'm gonna continue to pray
45:15 for the salvation of a loved one for years,"
45:19 that's a different issue,
45:20 there's examples of that in the Bible.
45:23 - Okay, next one that we have is Robert,
45:25 listening in New Jersey.
45:26 Robert, welcome to the program.
45:29 - [Robert] Good evening. Pastors, Doug, and Pastors John.
45:32 - Evening.
45:33 - My question is (indistinct)
45:36 I found a little curious in the the Bible,
45:38 The Bible states that God is not a God of confusion.
45:43 Yet in two instances He seems to have caused that,
45:47 like for example in Genesis 11:7,
45:51 He caused confusion at the Tower of Babel,
45:55 to disrupt the languages
45:57 and then have the people scattered throughout the earth.
46:01 And another instance was the Ammonites who were, like,
46:07 sworn foes of Israel.
46:09 It says that, in the history of Israel,
46:13 Ammonites were among the army,
46:15 allied against King Jehoshaphat
46:18 and God caused confusion among them,
46:20 and they destroyed themselves
46:22 and that's 2 Chronicles 20:1-23.
46:25 - Yep. - So how do we...
46:28 - How do you
46:30 reconcile the two? - How do we make of this?
46:31 - Yeah, God is not the author of confusion.
46:33 I think that's 1 Corinthians 14.
46:36 He says, "Let all things be done decently."
46:38 God, of course, is talking about His people,
46:40 and God was extremely precise
46:45 in telling the children of Israel to be fastidious, clean,
46:48 orderly in what they did in the camp, in the services,
46:53 and Paul repeats that in the church,
46:56 that we should be orderly.
46:57 Order is a blessing of God,
47:00 disorder and chaos is a curse that He often sent
47:03 to the enemies because the people of Babylon
47:07 were rebelling against God,
47:10 He sent them chaos and confusion.
47:13 Many times in the Bible God will confound,
47:16 is one of the words that's used, the enemies,
47:19 and confuse and frustrate their plans.
47:22 He did it to the Amalekites and probably several others.
47:24 I think at one point during the Battle of Gideon,
47:26 they all turned on each other in the chaos,
47:29 and so you'll see that order and organization
47:35 are a blessing that God wants among His people,
47:38 He wants us to strive for that.
47:40 When we reject God and we embrace the devil,
47:44 then you're gonna have disorder and chaos.
47:46 - You know the verse you're referring to?
47:48 You mentioned in passage 1 Corinthians 14,
47:50 there's two parts of the verse that says,
47:52 "For God is not the author of confusion but of peace."
47:55 The next part of the verse says,
47:56 "As in all of the churches of the saints,"
47:59 so specifically Paul is speaking about,
48:01 when it comes to worship and it comes to activities
48:03 within the church, there needs to be order,
48:06 things need to be done decently,
48:08 you don't wanna have confusion in the church,
48:10 especially when it comes to worship,
48:12 that's quite different than when God brought a judgment
48:14 upon the Tower of Babel or upon the enemies of God's people.
48:19 Okay, good question- - Good question, yeah.
48:19 - Thank you.
48:20 We've got, let's see, Dave,
48:21 he is listening from Alaska.
48:23 Dave, welcome to the program.
48:26 - [Dave] Thank you, gentlemen, and I appreciate your time.
48:29 I'm gonna try and make this quick and concise.
48:32 Basically I've got a history of mental illness
48:35 and I feel like I've always had this impression
48:38 that someone wants me to be a missionary
48:41 in order to be saved,
48:42 but I can't live without my meds.
48:44 Is Satan capable of impersonating God in order to tell them
48:48 to do something to their own destruction?
48:51 - Okay, good question.
48:53 Is Satan able to impersonate God?
48:57 Well, yes and no.
48:59 In other words, Satan can never be God,
49:02 does he try to deceive people into thinking
49:04 that God is speaking to them?
49:07 Oh yeah.
49:08 There's a lot of religions in the world that are false
49:10 and they're sure God is guiding them,
49:13 and so Satan is impersonating God and he's deceiving.
49:17 So how do we know whether it's God or, you know,
49:21 the devil impersonating God?
49:22 For one thing, we follow His Word,
49:25 we listen to Christian counsel,
49:27 we obey the promptings of His Spirit as in harmony
49:31 with His Word, look for providential openings.
49:35 In fact, you might be blessed by a book I wrote,
49:40 Dave, and it's called "How to Know The Will of God."
49:44 So one of the things that book will do is it'll try
49:46 and give you some tools so you can know,
49:49 is this an impression from the Lord?
49:51 Is God guiding me to be a missionary?
49:53 As you say, or whatever,
49:54 or is this just the devil messing with my head,
49:56 thinking I can't be saved unless I'm a missionary?
49:59 First of all, I don't think God calls everybody
50:00 to be missionaries,
50:02 there are different gifts that are given
50:04 to different people.
50:05 I think that you're looking,
50:07 1 Corinthians 12 and chapter 14 talks about
50:11 different gifts of the Spirit.
50:12 Not everyone's a pastor or a teacher.
50:15 - If you'd like to receive the book,
50:16 I think it's called "Determining the Will of God,"
50:17 we'll be happy to send it to you, Dave,
50:19 or anyone who calls and ask.
50:21 The number is 800-835-6747.
50:24 And again, the book is called "Determining the Will of God"
50:26 and we'll be happy to get it in the mail and send it to you.
50:29 We've got Eric listening in New Jersey.
50:31 Eric, welcome to the program.
50:34 - [Eric] Hi, good night, God bless you, guys.
50:37 - Thank you. - I have a question
50:38 in Matthew 4:5, say that,
50:46 I hope you understand me,
50:48 that, "Then the devil took Him up into the holy city,
50:54 taking Him to the pinnacle of the temple."
50:57 - [Doug] Yes.
50:58 - My question is how the devil,
51:02 the devil took Jesus, because Jesus was a man.
51:06 - Yes.
51:08 Well, that tells us something about the power of the devil.
51:11 Now, whether the devil physically put Him there,
51:15 I'm inclined to think he did because he wanted Him to jump
51:18 and physically die, but that tells you something
51:22 about the devil,
51:23 to actually transport three-dimensional objects,
51:26 or people, or creatures,
51:29 so it says he took 'em up to the temple,
51:31 it probably wasn't just a vision of the temple,
51:35 and said, "Throw yourself down."
51:38 By the way, I was reading this week that the, is it Josephus
51:43 tells us, I believe, that James,
51:46 the brother of Jesus, so angered the scribes,
51:49 they ultimately took him to the top of the temple
51:51 and threw him off, same place where the devil
51:53 took Jesus, the brother of James,
51:55 the brother of Jesus or half-brother,
51:57 was tossed off the temple.
52:00 So I think, yeah, the devil took Him up there.
52:03 What do you think? - Yeah, absolutely.
52:05 And of course the devil does have power to move things.
52:08 I mean, there are those who are involved
52:11 in a different seance or cults,
52:13 and they'll testify that things do move,
52:16 tables move, people move,
52:17 so the devil does the power to move things.
52:19 - Yeah. - And move people.
52:20 - It happens on Star Trek,
52:22 it must be true. (both laugh)
52:24 - Must be true, huh? (laughs)
52:25 - Yeah.
52:26 - All right. - Sorry, folks,
52:27 forgive me for that.
52:28 - Thank you, thank you, Eric, for your call.
52:30 We've got Brian listening in Washington.
52:32 Brian, welcome to the program.
52:35 - [Brian] Hi Doug, hi Ross.
52:37 - Hi. - I've got a question
52:39 on Genesis 32:22-32. - Yeah.
52:46 - Can you explain the purpose of Jacob's wrestling with God
52:49 and why his hip was permanently displaced?
52:53 - Okay, yeah, I'll do my best.
52:56 Of course, Jacob had deceived his parents and his brother,
53:03 and through the, he tried to steal his birthright.
53:07 Now he's coming back into the promised land
53:09 and he's wanting to know that God forgave him.
53:13 I think Jacob wrestling with the angel,
53:14 of course, you can't wrestle with God,
53:16 God can pin you in a fraction of a second,
53:18 God can toss you out of the ring,
53:20 so how do you wrestle with God?
53:22 That is, I think, God allowed that
53:25 to show that sometimes we wrestle with God in prayer.
53:27 Jacob went off by himself to pray and then the man appears,
53:32 and he thought that maybe there was some vandal or robber,
53:35 and Jacob instinctively, you know,
53:38 goes to defend himself and one hold after another
53:41 doesn't seem to work, and they wrestled for quite a while
53:46 and I think it's there to depict prayer,
53:49 and it actually talks about the time of Jacob's trouble
53:53 in the prophecies, and I forget, is it Jeremiah?
53:58 Is it time of Jacob's trouble?
53:59 And it depicts this wrestling.
54:02 So finally Jacob, the angel touches him
54:05 and it puts his hip outta joint,
54:09 he really had to be humbled but he would not let go,
54:11 even though he is in intense pain,
54:12 he would not let go of God, and he said,
54:14 "I will not let You go unless You bless me.
54:16 This is where Jacob gets his name changed to Israel,
54:19 "One who triumphs as a prince with God,"
54:23 and when we hang on to God's promises, we triumph,
54:26 we get a new name.
54:27 There's just a whole scenario in that,
54:29 in the context of wrestling in prayer.
54:32 - I think the verse you're referring to,
54:33 pastor, Jeremiah 30:7 talks about Jacob's wrestling,
54:38 Jacob's time of trouble, and of course
54:40 that's the type of God's people in the last days,
54:42 their faith will be tried and they will have
54:44 to claim those promises and hold on to them.
54:46 In essence, they go through a Jacob's time of trouble.
54:49 - Yes, that's true.
54:50 Now, listening friends, we are gonna be wrapping up.
54:52 We sort of do this in two stages.
54:54 For our friends listening on satellite radio,
54:56 we're gonna say, God bless, until next week,
54:59 the rest of you, stay tuned,
55:01 we're gonna be doing some rapid fire internet questions
55:04 that have come in in just a moment.
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55:43 Right, Pastor Doug, we have Charlene from England
55:45 and she'd like to know where did Cain find his wife?
55:49 - Yeah, that's a a common question
55:51 because people begin reading the Bible
55:54 and then after Cain kills his brother
55:56 and he's sort of evicted to the land of Nod,
56:00 God places the mark on Cain,
56:01 it says Cain took his wife and you go, "Wait a second here,
56:06 there was Cain and Abel, he kills his brother,
56:08 there's only Adam and Eve, where's the wife come from?"
56:11 Well, when you get to Genesis 5,
56:13 we realize that it only mentions the firstborn boys,
56:17 typically in this patriarchal society,
56:20 it says Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters,
56:24 and so Cain, and Seth, and the other patriarchs,
56:30 they often married their sisters,
56:31 they had to marry their sisters.
56:33 If you think about it, Adam sort of married his sister.
56:36 I mean, they both were created by the same parent
56:40 you might say, and you go further down in the Bible,
56:43 Abraham married his half-sister,
56:46 Jacob married his first cousin.
56:48 It was not, there was no genetic problems
56:50 when they married their sisters back in the beginning
56:52 'cause people's genes were perfectly robust.
56:57 - Okay, another question that we have, Linda's asking,
56:58 "Did Jesus take the Nazarite vow?"
57:02 - Yeah, good question.
57:03 It doesn't specifically say it,
57:04 but it is possible that Jesus took the Nazarite vow
57:07 or that Mary and Joseph had Jesus follow that vow
57:10 up until His baptism.
57:12 A person might take the vow for a limited period of time,
57:15 or a person might take the vow until,
57:17 you know, a certain age,
57:19 and certainly when Christ was baptized it says,
57:22 then He was, you know, drinking grape juice,
57:24 which a Nazarite was not supposed to do,
57:26 that's why so many artists depict Jesus with longer hair
57:30 'cause the Nazarites were not supposed
57:32 to cut their hair like Samson.
57:34 Samuel had taken the Nazarite vow,
57:37 and, but he probably took it for life.
57:39 So we don't know,
57:41 but it is possible He took it up until His baptism.
57:44 - Okay, we have another question.
57:45 How do we know if we have true faith
57:47 without being presumptuous?
57:50 - Yeah, how do you know if you,
57:52 the Bible says you don't wanna tempt the Lord,
57:54 you don't say, "Lord, I've got faith
57:55 that I can jump off the temple,"
57:57 'cause that is tempting the Lord,
57:59 but if there's something in God's Word
58:02 where He is giving us some direction,
58:04 we can follow that with confidence,
58:07 and other examples in the Bible we know are safe.
58:10 That uses up all our question times for this program.
58:12 Friends, God willing, we'll be studying His Word together
58:14 with you again next week.
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