Bible Answers Live

Change is Coming Through the Shadow

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00:43 Now here's your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:47 Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:50 Doug Batchelor: Hello, friends.
00:51 Would you like to hear an amazing fact?
00:53 English dye casters Leslie Smith
00:56 and Rodney Smith founded Lesney Products in 1947.
01:01 And along with their partner, Jack Odell,
01:03 they began making small toys.
01:05 In 1952, Odell was challenged by a rule at his daughter's school.
01:11 The rule permitted students to only bring toys to school
01:14 that were small enough to fit inside a matchbox.
01:18 So, he scaled down Lindsey's little steam roller package
01:22 and put it in a matchbox and sent his daughter off to school.
01:25 The Matchbox car was born.
01:28 Since 1953, Matchbox cars have sold around the world.
01:33 The first little car sold for 39 to 48 cents and came
01:37 in a small matchbox-like container.
01:40 The toys are made by measuring real, full size cars or trucks
01:44 with a laser and then reducing the dimensions
01:47 to be about 1/64th the size of the original model.
01:51 To date, there have been more than 12,000 individual Matchbox
01:55 models with a total production of over three billion miniature
02:00 toy cars and trucks.
02:03 You know, the Bible speaks of three structures
02:05 that were made as miniatures of heavenly copies.
02:09 Jean Ross: That's right, Pastor Doug.
02:11 When you think about the Matchbox car, I think just about
02:13 every little boy, at some point in time, has seen one or played
02:16 one or I know [inaudible]
02:18 Doug: You've got a few boys. Did they have?
02:19 Jean: They sure did.
02:21 Doug: We've still got a bucket, I think,
02:22 of Matchbox cars in the attic.
02:24 Jean: And I think what's appealing is that they look
02:26 just like the real thing, but, of course, miniature.
02:29 Doug: And then shrunk. Jean: That's right.
02:31 That's kind of neat to look at it and say,
02:32 "Wow, this is what the real thing looks like."
02:33 Well, you know, the Bible talks about a miniature structure that
02:36 was recreated here on the earth.
02:38 Doug: That's right.
02:40 The Bible tells us that when Moses went up Mount Sinai,
02:43 not only did he get the Ten Commandments,
02:45 but he received a lot of the laws, both civil, health,
02:48 and religious while he was on the mountains,
02:51 and God gave him plans, specific plans.
02:55 The same way Noah was given specific plans for the ark,
02:58 God gave Moses specific plans to build a tabernacle,
03:02 a sanctuary that was a miniature model of a heavenly sanctuary
03:08 that you read about several places in the Bible.
03:11 And one example would be--
03:13 you can look in Hebrews chapter 8, verse 4.
03:16 It says, "For if He were on earth, He would not be a priest,
03:20 since there are priests who offer gifts according to the
03:22 law, who serve the copy and shadow of the heavenly things.
03:26 As Moses was divinely instructed
03:29 when he was about to make the tabernacle."
03:31 That's the sanctuary.
03:32 "For He said, 'See that you make all things according
03:35 to the pattern shown you on the mountain.'"
03:37 Like, we know the Ark of the Covenant
03:41 was the golden box of the Ten Commandments.
03:43 On the top, there were golden angels.
03:45 Well, in heaven, God doesn't sit enthroned between
03:48 two golden statues of angels.
03:50 He sits between living angels.
03:53 Just like a little Matchbox car--well, the doors don't open.
03:56 I mean, it's a little model, but the very real temple in heaven,
04:00 instead of having a wallpaper with angels like the earthly
04:03 sanctuary, it's probably a living wall of angels that
04:06 surrounds the Lord.
04:08 And I said three, because there are three times it was built.
04:11 You've got the mobile tabernacle in the wilderness.
04:13 Then Solomon ultimately built, at David's instruction,
04:18 and David provided for it, one of the wonders of the world,
04:21 the temple of Solomon.
04:24 And that was then destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar.
04:26 And after the Babylonian captivity, it was rebuilt during
04:30 the times of Ezra and Nehemiah, later refurbished by
04:33 Herod the Great, but it was basically the same temple.
04:36 And so these are all miniatures of the heavenly model,
04:40 and that temple teaches us, Pastor Ross,
04:43 something about how God saves people.
04:45 Jean: That's right, the Bible says, "Thy way, O Lord,
04:46 is in the sanctuary."
04:48 So, looking at the services of the sanctuary, of course, you've
04:51 got the sacrifices that took place in the sanctuary that the
04:53 priesthood and the work that the priests did, and all of
04:55 the articles of furniture, they all teach a lesson that points
04:58 us to the plan of redemption in Jesus our sacrifice
05:02 and also great High Priest.
05:04 And also, living the Christian life,
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06:20 Well, Pastor Doug, before we go to the phone lines--
06:22 I know there's quite a few callers waiting--
06:23 let's start with prayer.
06:25 Dear Father, we thank you once again that
06:27 we do have this time to open up your Word and study.
06:29 The Bible is the most important book,
06:31 a book that you have given us to show us the way of truth.
06:34 The Bible says that "Thy Word is a lamp to our feet."
06:37 So, guide us, Lord, as we study together.
06:38 In Jesus's name, amen.
06:41 Doug: Amen.
06:42 Jean: Well, our first caller this evening is Brittany, and
06:44 she's listening in California.
06:45 Brittany, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
06:47 Brittany: Hey. Doug: Hi.
06:53 Brittany: Yeah, my question is why do bad things
06:56 happen to good people?
06:58 And are the past week's events part of the sign of the times?
07:02 Doug: Yeah, that is a great question.
07:04 And, you know, I--for those who are listening, sometimes these
07:07 programs are rebroadcasts, and last week, at the time
07:12 of this recording, there was another school shooting.
07:15 Innocent kids were killed, and a lot of people
07:17 just have very serious questions.
07:20 I think there's so much evil in the world with innocent people
07:23 suffering at the hands of wicked.
07:24 And why does God allow this?
07:26 If He's a loving God, if He's all powerful,
07:28 why doesn't He just stop it?
07:30 If there's a devil, why would God make a devil,
07:33 if He's a good, loving God?
07:34 And people have a lot of questions.
07:37 First, I'd recommend that anyone who has those questions, if you
07:40 have not seen the "Cosmic Conflict" DVD--and, of course,
07:45 it's on YouTube--just type in Cosmic Conflict, and you'll see
07:50 a DVD that was produced.
07:52 It explains where did evil come from?
07:55 Why does God not just destroy the devil as yet?
07:58 He will, the Bible tells us.
08:00 And why are there innocent
08:02 people suffering here in this world?
08:04 But you read in the book of Job, where Job was a good,
08:08 just, upright, righteous man,
08:09 and just all these terrible things happened.
08:11 The book of Job sort of gives you a picture behind the scenes,
08:14 that the bad things that happened to Job came from the
08:18 devil, and there's--the devil has highjacked this world,
08:22 because our first parents were made free, and God said,
08:27 "Don't disobey and eat this forbidden fruit," and the devil
08:30 said, "Listen to me, don't listen to God."
08:31 And when Adam and Eve chose to listen to the devil, they really
08:34 kind of handed over the keys of our world.
08:37 They surrendered dominion of this world to the enemy.
08:39 Paul says in Romans chapter 6 that "Whoever you obey,
08:43 that's whose servants you are," and they basically
08:46 gave the world to the devil.
08:48 Even Jesus refers to the devil as the prince of this world.
08:51 So, that's why there's so much suffering.
08:53 We ought to be asking the question, since the penalty
08:55 for sin is death, "Why aren't we all dead?"
08:58 It's the goodness of God that protects us and is giving us
09:01 some probationary time to make another decision to choose
09:05 Jesus and choose forgiveness.
09:07 Good question.
09:08 And I think we've got a lesson on "Did God Make a Devil?"
09:12 Jean: We do, but we also have a book that might be
09:14 a little more directed to your question.
09:16 It's called, "The Brook Dried Up."
09:18 Why do Christians suffer?
09:19 And that's free.
09:20 We'll send it to anyone here in the US and Canada.
09:23 The number to call is 800-835-6747,
09:26 and you can ask for the book, "The Brook Dried Up,"
09:29 and we'll be happy to send it to you.
09:30 If you're listening outside of North America, we want to
09:33 encourage you to go to our website at amazingfacts.org.
09:35 Click on our free library, and you'll be able to read the book
09:39 right there online.
09:40 It's called, "The Brook Dried Up."
09:41 Gary in Illinois.
09:43 Gary, welcome to the program.
09:44 Gary: Thank you.
09:46 In Revelation 16:9, it says that men are scorched with a great
09:50 heat, and they did not repent.
09:53 Well, this could be, you know, solar flares.
09:56 So, my question is are natural disasters and the bowls of the
09:59 wrath of God one and the same?
10:02 And that's why people aren't repenting when these, you know,
10:08 horrific, extraordinary natural disasters happen?
10:13 Doug: Yeah, well, through history, not connected with the
10:16 seven last plagues, but through history, I think that God has
10:19 sometimes allowed natural disasters as a judgment, but not
10:22 every natural disaster is from the Lord.
10:25 You read in the book of Job, we just referenced, the Bible says
10:28 the devil went forth from the presence of the Lord, and he
10:30 brought a tornado that killed the children of Job.
10:34 The house blew down.
10:36 And we had tornadoes this last week.
10:37 It doesn't mean God sent them.
10:39 Sometimes the devil can even influence nature.
10:42 He was the most powerful of God's creation, and he's got a
10:47 lot of power even over the weather.
10:49 But the seven plagues, many of them appear to be nature
10:55 reacting somehow.
10:57 Many of the seven plagues are sort of similar to the plagues
11:00 that fell on ancient Egypt, namely the blood, the sores,
11:03 and the darkness on the seat of the beast.
11:07 People being scorched with great heat, it may also be connected
11:13 with something happening in the atmosphere or solar flares.
11:19 Jean: Yeah, I mean, God often uses natural things
11:22 to do a judgment.
11:25 For example, in the case of Egypt, when the plagues came,
11:27 there were literal locusts that infested the land.
11:30 So, God can use the sun, but it's clearly
11:34 an act of judgment that comes.
11:36 Why do the people not repent during the seven last plagues?
11:39 Well, at that point, the Holy Spirit has been withdrawn from
11:43 those who have rebelled against God.
11:45 Probation is closed, and we go through what we call the great
11:48 time of trouble that you read about in Daniel chapter 12,
11:50 verse 1.
11:52 So, people's minds are pretty much made up at that point.
11:54 And instead of these plagues bringing them to a point of
11:57 repentance, the Bible says that they curse God, they blame God,
12:01 they blaspheme His name for sending the plagues.
12:03 So, they know where it's coming from, but their hearts are hard,
12:06 and they're set in doing evil, and the plagues reveal that.
12:09 Doug: Yeah.
12:11 Jean: All right, thank you.
12:12 Next caller, we're going to try Gerry one more time.
12:14 Gerry in Texas, are you there?
12:16 Gerry: I'm here, guys, finally.
12:18 Hey, thanks, Pastor, for taking my call.
12:21 Doug: Yeah.
12:22 Gerry: I have several Bible texts in reference to
12:24 the question I'm asking.
12:25 And, you know, you have
12:27 to get spiritual knowledge through that.
12:30 What is the true physical nature of His physical nature?
12:35 We have in Genesis angels held swords, and we have Paul in Acts
12:41 19:15-16 that the men that were wanting to get the Holy Spirit,
12:48 the angels there pounded on them you know, beat them up or so.
12:54 And then we have Roger Moray's dog was kicked by an angel.
12:58 And then in Ezekiel, I guess we have that Satan had fire erupt
13:04 from his abdomen, in his wings.
13:06 I guess he did have a crown.
13:09 Doug: Yeah, so it seems sometimes, you know, one place
13:12 it says that the angels--and Pastor Ross says, I think,
13:15 they're his ministering--
13:17 It says they're spirits.
13:19 We don't wrestle against flesh and blood.
13:20 That's Ephesians 6.
13:21 But also in Hebrews, when it talks about the angels, they are
13:23 ministering spirits that are sent forth to minister for those
13:27 who will inherit eternal life.
13:28 Jean: Hebrews 1:14.
13:30 Doug: Thank you, that's the one.
13:32 So, we've got several verses that tell us that angels are
13:34 spirits; but at the same time, we see them interacting in a
13:38 physical way with our world on many occasions, where they are
13:41 moving things and doing things, both good and bad angels.
13:45 Typically, the devil, when he interacts with the environment,
13:49 he does it through a creature or a person that's possessed.
13:52 I mean, even the demons cast out of the man, they said,
13:55 "Put us in the pigs."
13:56 You know, do something like that.
13:58 And Satan, he operated through the medium of a serpent, but
14:02 they are able to somehow interact with our dimension, and
14:07 so they are very real creatures.
14:09 I think the confusion comes in that we don't understand
14:14 what the spiritual realm is.
14:17 We assume that when something's spiritual, that means
14:19 that it has no substance the way we understand it.
14:23 But there's a whole dimension that in which
14:25 the angels live and operate.
14:26 And I would just say to everyone listening, the miracle by which
14:29 you're listening now or watching on television, we didn't know
14:33 about 100 years ago.
14:34 We didn't know about radio waves, and those frequencies,
14:36 and gamma rays, and x-rays, and there's a whole world
14:39 that we can't see, we now understand.
14:42 Well, I don't think we've yet figured out the equipment
14:45 to diagnose and measure the spiritual realm,
14:47 but it's very real.
14:49 And so angels somehow are able to interact with our physical
14:53 world when they choose to reveal themselves.
14:55 The Bible says Satan can appear as an angel of light, and they
14:58 can do miracles, and they can move things.
15:00 So, it is something of a mystery.
15:03 Jean: All right, well, thank you for your call, Gerry.
15:06 We've got Johnny listening in Kentucky.
15:08 Johnny, welcome to the program.
15:09 Johnny: Hello, thank you.
15:11 I was wondering, do you have any advice on how to witness to
15:17 family members who are running away from God and spend nearly
15:20 all their time on violent video games, violent movies,
15:24 and violent media in general?
15:28 Doug: Well, you know, there's three things you can do for
15:30 the people you love.
15:32 And I know it's heartbreaking when you see people you care
15:35 about and you love that don't seem to be interested in
15:37 eternity and the Holy Spirit and serving God.
15:41 But there's really only three.
15:43 I say three, and it's technically four things that you
15:46 do that you, when you want to reach somebody.
15:49 The one is you be a good witness.
15:52 Let your light shine.
15:54 The other would be pray for them.
15:57 God does things when you pray that would not happen otherwise.
16:01 Prayer really does make a difference.
16:03 The other is if they're open, share information.
16:08 So, if you've got friends, and they're preoccupied with
16:11 watching media that's not good, say, "Hey, I've got this video.
16:13 It's called "Cosmic Conflict."
16:15 Or "I've got this video called,
16:17 "The Bride, the Beast, and Babylon."
16:19 These are a couple done by Amazing Facts.
16:21 Say, "You really would enjoy this."
16:22 And if they're open--but sometimes you can't,
16:26 you know, your friends won't listen.
16:27 They won't read material.
16:29 They won't watch something you give them.
16:31 So, the fourth thing is you do the first three persistently.
16:36 Don't give up.
16:37 Pray for them, be a good witness, and share information
16:40 when they're available.
16:41 Don't nag them, don't badger them with information, because
16:44 you can drive them away.
16:46 You don't want to do that, but keep praying their hearts will
16:48 be open, and study with them, if they're open.
16:51 Jean: Absolutely.
16:53 And, of course, that's something we need to do.
16:55 We need to be the best witness that we can for our family and
16:57 our friends, and we need to pray that God gives us
16:59 wisdom to know when to speak or when to be quiet.
17:02 So, that's something that we need
17:04 to be connected to God with.
17:05 We've got Carly listening in--is it Nebraska?
17:08 Carly, welcome to the program.
17:10 Carly: Thank you very much and thank both of you for having
17:14 this program and being there.
17:16 I have a verse, Colossians 1:24, that I have never really
17:21 understood, and today in my daily reading I've come across
17:25 something that has a brand-new thought that kind of bothers me,
17:32 when I read it, and I wanted to run it by you.
17:38 Doug: Well, let me read the verse for our friends
17:40 that are listening.
17:41 I'll read Colossians 1:24.
17:42 Is that right?
17:44 Carly: Yes, and I understand that Paul is not speaking of
17:46 Christ's suffering here, that he's explaining to the people
17:49 his own sufferings--
17:52 Doug: Yeah, let me read it real quick for those listening.
17:55 "I now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up my flesh
17:59 in what is lacking in the afflictions of Christ,
18:01 for the sake of His body, which is the church."
18:04 Okay.
18:06 Carly: Well, I never quite understood the lacking part,
18:10 and I, what I read was, like I say, a brand-new thought,
18:16 that there's been several explanations, but it could be
18:20 possibly that this text indicates Christ's afflictions
18:25 did not end after His ascension, and I'm reading this now, and
18:30 that consequently He continues to identify Himself with the
18:34 church, that as the believers fulfilled the mission of the
18:40 church, Christ is now being afflicted by the afflictions of
18:44 believers, suggesting that he is somehow experiencing
18:47 them in Himself.
18:49 And He says this will come to an end at His return in glory.
18:54 And I thought, Christ isn't afflicted anymore,
18:58 and the thought that He's being afflicted?
19:01 Doug: Yeah, well, let's talk about that.
19:03 That's an interesting observation.
19:05 You know, it tells us in the Bible that Jesus is not
19:09 physically, you know, He's in heaven now at
19:11 the right hand of the Father.
19:12 He's not physically suffering on the cross anymore.
19:15 He was crucified once.
19:17 Jesus does feel everything.
19:20 And so He said, "Inasmuch as you've done it to the least of
19:22 these, you've done it to me."
19:24 So, whether we do something kind or whether someone does
19:26 something evil to another person, Christ feels the pain in
19:32 that, you know, He empathizes with the pain of His creatures.
19:36 So, in that sense, He suffers.
19:38 Paul is probably not referring to that here.
19:40 When he talks about the afflictions of Christ, I think
19:42 he's talking about where Peter said that, you know,
19:45 "Don't be shocked if we share in His sufferings;
19:47 but if we do, rejoice."
19:49 And Paul, probably more than any apostle, he did go through a lot
19:53 of hardship and sufferings.
19:55 He was beaten, and stoned, and imprisoned.
19:57 And so he said, "Look, you know, I killed Christians, and
20:00 the Lord is letting me taste some of those sufferings now."
20:03 What do you think?
20:05 Jean: Yeah, I think so.
20:07 You know, He said, "My strength is made perfect in weakness."
20:10 And Paul was an example of faithfulness, even despite
20:12 terrible suffering.
20:14 And then, of course, you read about Paul's list, and you
20:16 mentioned some of them.
20:18 Another one was shipwrecked, imprisoned.
20:19 Eventually, he was beheaded for his faith.
20:21 So, you know, Christians can look at that and say he had so
20:23 many things happen to him; and, yet, look how positive and
20:25 convinced he was of the love of God.
20:27 Look at how strong his faith was.
20:29 So, he's an example.
20:31 And, you know, Paul is acknowledging there my
20:32 affliction is probably not over.
20:34 There's probably more that's going to come.
20:35 Doug: That's right.
20:37 And when he said, "Fill up the measure of suffering,"
20:38 he meant sometimes God has to let us suffer to learn things.
20:41 And Paul said, "I'm still learning."
20:43 So, God's going to fill it up.
20:45 Jean: Yeah.
20:46 Doug: All right, thanks so much.
20:48 I hope that helps Carly.
20:49 Jean: We've got Anna listening in Oregon.
20:50 Anna, welcome to the program.
20:52 Anna: Hi, thank you for taking my question, again, guys.
20:54 Doug: Thank you.
20:58 Anna: So, my question is--you probably get it all the
21:01 time--but the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
21:06 And sometimes I think I get it, and then I don't, and then I do,
21:10 and then I don't.
21:12 I would like you to explain it to me.
21:16 Doug: Yeah, well, you know, it'll be hard in 3 minutes to
21:18 explain God.
21:20 The Bible says His ways are higher than our ways,
21:24 than the stars are above the earth.
21:27 And Job said God is past finding out.
21:31 So, you know, if we ever got where we could wrap our brains
21:34 around God, someone who's lived from everlasting to everlasting,
21:37 that made the cosmos, you know, it's quite literally a
21:41 mind-blowing thought.
21:42 But there is information revealed about the functions,
21:46 for lack of a better word, of the Father, Son,
21:50 and Spirit are different.
21:51 I heard you explain it once, Pastor Ross,
21:53 in kind of three phases.
21:54 Do you know what I'm talking about?
21:56 Jean: You've got to remind me.
21:57 Doug: Actually, well, you know, the Father's the
21:59 authority, and Jesus is the medium that reveals the Father.
22:05 He's the one who saves us.
22:06 And the Holy Spirit is, He's going and doing the bidding of
22:10 the Father and the Son, and leading the teaching,
22:12 the convicting, the guiding, and there's verses
22:14 that support these things.
22:16 You know, Jesus even said, "God the Father created
22:18 all things through the Son."
22:20 So, God the Father seems to--there's a willing submission
22:24 of the Son and the Spirit to the Father, because the Father is
22:28 the one who so loves the world, He sends His Son.
22:30 And then you've got the Father tells us He commits judgment
22:33 to the Son.
22:35 He commits creation to the Son.
22:37 The Spirit you see, of course, right there at creation,
22:38 is there in every facet of creation and salvation, and He's
22:42 sort of constantly the one communing between the Father,
22:48 and the Son, and the Spirit.
22:50 Anyway, we do have a book that is called, "Understanding the
22:55 Trinity, and we'll be happy to send you a copy of that, Debbie.
23:00 Is that Debbie asking that?
23:02 No, that's Anna. I'm sorry.
23:04 And, hopefully, that'll help a little bit.
23:06 Jean: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
23:10 You can ask for the book, "The Trinity: Is It Biblical?"
23:12 We'll be happy to send it to you.
23:14 The next caller that we have is Debbie.
23:16 Excuse me.
23:17 Listening in Canada.
23:19 Debbie, welcome to the program.
23:21 Debbie: Hi, how are you?
23:22 Doug: Good, thanks for calling.
23:24 Debbie: Okay, first of all, I want to say, Pastor Doug,
23:27 I still have your "Richest Caveman"
23:28 book with your signature in it.
23:30 I remember fighting over--not fighting,
23:32 but pushed my way through a crowd to get you to sign it.
23:34 Unbelievable book.
23:36 Changed my whole life.
23:37 Doug: Oh, praise the Lord. Debbie: Yeah.
23:40 Okay now, the question I have is not really--I would think it
23:44 would be a biblical--I'm trying to keep my body clean--
23:46 well not trying, I am.
23:48 But when I die, I just filled out my health card, and they
23:52 ask you, a question on the health card, protégé thing
23:56 is do you want to be an organ donor?
23:58 Doug: Yeah.
24:00 Debbie: Do you want to donate your organs?
24:01 And I said yes.
24:03 Is that against Bible principle?
24:05 Doug: Well, it's a great question.
24:06 I had to ask myself the same question.
24:09 My driver's license also says yes just because I know I'm
24:15 getting a new body.
24:17 And if, you know, if there's any of my parts that are of any
24:20 use--and the older you get, the less likely that is--but, you
24:26 know, if, you know, if there's some part that is going to give
24:29 someone else sight, that--we lost a son about 20 years ago,
24:34 and they asked us, they said, "You know, would you be willing
24:39 to donate his cornea that could be transplanted in someone else
24:41 to help them see?"
24:42 And we said, "Absolutely."
24:44 Because, otherwise, it's just, you know, it's going to turn
24:46 back into ashes, the Bible tells us.
24:48 And so--and we feel the same way.
24:51 Now, I don't think that--I don't support cremation, because
24:55 that's just basically, you know, burning up your body.
24:57 But, you know, if there were some parts that could help
25:01 another person have life,
25:03 Jesus is all about sacrifice for others.
25:05 Jean: Yeah, there's no biblical reason not to.
25:08 Doug: No moral dilemma there.
25:09 Jean: Absolutely, if you can help.
25:10 All right, we're going to jump to James in Texas.
25:12 James, welcome to the program.
25:14 James: Yes, sir.
25:16 My question is, I intend to be re-baptized on Easter Sunday.
25:20 Doug: Oh, wow.
25:21 James: But is there going to be--is there a special order
25:24 for my repentance?
25:26 Like, is there baptism, confession, repentance,
25:30 or any kind of special order I have to end up doing?
25:33 Doug: Yeah, well, you'll read in Acts chapter 2, when the
25:36 people said to Peter, after Peter preaches his sermon--
25:39 and I forget--it's like verse 38 maybe--they said, "Men and
25:43 brethren, what shall we do?"
25:44 Peter said, "Repent and be baptized."
25:47 And John the Baptist, he said, "Repent and be baptized."
25:50 So, repentance is a sorrow for sin and a willingness
25:56 to turn away from sin.
25:57 It's a U-turn where you turn from your old ways and you would
26:00 walk in a newness of life.
26:02 That should definitely come before baptism.
26:05 So, it's like if baptism is like marriage, and if you're going
26:09 to marry a particular girl, she's going to say,
26:11 "I want to make sure you're done dating all the other girls
26:13 before we get married."
26:14 You don't say, "Well, after we get married, then I'll try
26:17 and stop dating the other girls."
26:18 So, you want to--it doesn't mean you need to be perfect before
26:22 you're baptized, but you should, you know, express sorrow for
26:25 your sins, confess your sins to God, repent from your sins,
26:28 and then when you are baptized, you have followed the criteria,
26:33 you then come from the water, and all your sins are forgiven,
26:37 and God says He cleanses you from all unrighteousness
26:39 when we confess our sins.
26:43 Hey, friends, you can tell we're going to take a break.
26:45 Don't go too far, because we've got a lot more Bible questions
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30:02 My name is Doug Batchelor.
30:04 Jean: My name is Jean Ross.
30:05 And we've got Hughley listening in Pennsylvania.
30:08 So, Hughley, welcome to the program.
30:10 Hughley: Hi there. How are you?
30:12 Doug: Good, thank you for calling.
30:14 Hughley: All right.
30:16 So, I had a question for you.
30:18 I basically wanted to know about what the symbolism was with
30:24 Ezekiel and the wheel.
30:26 What was that encounter like?
30:29 Doug: Yeah, you not only find the wheel within the wheel here
30:32 in Ezekiel chapter 10.
30:35 It's also mentioned in chapter 1.
30:39 And you can read in Ezekiel 1, it says, "Now as I looked at
30:41 the--" And this is Ezekiel 1:15.
30:43 "Now as I looked at the living creatures, behold, a wheel was
30:46 on the earth beside each living creature with its four faces.
30:51 And the appearance of the wheels and their workings
30:53 was like the color of beryl.
30:56 And all four had the same likeness."
30:58 And he says that--you go on, it says, "The appearance of their
31:01 workings was, as it was, a wheel in the middle of a wheel.
31:05 And when they moved, they went towards any of the four
31:07 directions, and they did not turn aside as they went.
31:10 For their rims, they had so high, and they were awesome."
31:13 And then it says, "Their rims were full of eyes all around."
31:17 And I've had people say, "Well, this is Ezekiel saw a UFO,
31:22 or he saw an alien.
31:24 And folks have all wondered what is this?
31:27 It's a wheel within a wheel.
31:29 It's like a watch or the gears inside.
31:31 Or is it some kind of a Caterpillar where you've got
31:34 the tracks turning the wheel within a wheel?
31:36 And people have been all over the map with this.
31:40 But Pastor Ross, as far as I know, Ezekiel is having an
31:42 apocalyptic vision here, and so there's symbolism.
31:44 And the idea of a wheel within a wheel is telling us that, you
31:49 know, God is really in charge of all time, and the idea that
31:53 there's eyes all around, it means He has His interactions
31:57 that are helping make every little providence happen
32:02 and that God is completely in control.
32:06 The purpose of Ezekiel's vision, he's trying to wonder why these
32:11 terrible things happen to the nation of Israel.
32:13 They're conquered and carried off, and by the Babylonians,
32:15 and then the Persians, and God is saying, you know,
32:17 "I'm working out my perfect plan.
32:19 And to you, it may look like a wheel within a wheel, but
32:22 everywhere those wheels go, there's a direction
32:26 and a purpose.
32:28 So, it is a mystery.
32:29 Jean: And if you look at the throne room described in
32:31 Revelation chapter 4, it talks about the four living creatures,
32:34 and it says there are six wings, and they have eyes.
32:37 So the symbol of eyes being all knowing.
32:41 God is aware of everything.
32:43 And then the wheels, the throne of God appears to move.
32:45 So, there are some parallels, I think, in describing God's
32:48 throne, as you see it in Revelation, but also the
32:50 symbolic application of that.
32:52 Doug: Yeah. Jean: Absolutely.
32:54 Doug: And the four creatures are very similar in Ezekiel
32:56 to the ones you see, if not identical,
32:57 to the ones you see in Revelation.
32:59 So, I hope that helps a little bit.
33:02 All right, Glenn, we sure are--sorry, that was Hughley.
33:06 We sure appreciate your question.
33:08 Jean: The next one caller that we have, we're going to try
33:10 Glenn one more time, I think.
33:12 Glenn, are you there in Ohio?
33:14 Glenn, welcome to the program.
33:16 Glenn: Yes, thank you very much for taking my call.
33:18 I hope we made it through this time.
33:20 Doug: You did, you're on.
33:21 Glenn: Good.
33:23 My Bible study, I'm studying in the wonderful book of Zechariah,
33:26 the 8th chapter, and I got to verse 19, and it talks about the
33:32 four fasts, of four months, the fourth month, fifth month,
33:37 seventh month, and tenth month.
33:39 I'm concerned what that fast is about and what calendar is it
33:43 talking about?
33:45 Can you help me?
33:47 Doug: Yeah, I think he's referring back to the feasts
33:48 that you'd find in Leviticus, where you've got the--
33:52 what was it?
33:54 Seven annual feasts, and some of them involve fasts.
33:56 There were days of fasting.
33:58 And so this would be what they called the spiritual calendar
34:02 that began with the Passover.
34:05 Now, Israel had both a civil calendar that was a little bit
34:12 different from their religious or spiritual calendar.
34:16 And in the Jewish spiritual calendar, they had their fall
34:18 festivals, and then they had their spring festivals, and then
34:21 there was the Day of Atonement, which was the last festival at
34:23 the end of the spiritual year.
34:24 And I know there was a fast at the beginning of Passover,
34:27 and there was also a feast with Passover.
34:29 So, they had both.
34:30 And I'm pretty sure that Zechariah is also talking about
34:34 those fasts that you find there.
34:36 Now, we do have a book we can share that talks about
34:38 "Jesus and the Feast Days."
34:41 And I looked on our new lineup of books, and we do have
34:47 a book that talks about the feast days, yeah.
34:48 So, if Glenn wants to call--I'm sorry.
34:51 Is that Glenn, is that right?
34:53 Yeah, if he wants to call and ask for that,
34:54 we'll be happy to share that.
34:56 Jean: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
34:59 You can ask for the book on "Jesus and the Feast Days,"
35:02 and we'll send that to anyone here in the US or in Canada.
35:05 The next caller that we have is Ty,
35:07 and he's listening in Minnesota.
35:08 Ty, welcome to the program.
35:12 Ty, you're on the air, hi.
35:14 Ty: Hi.
35:16 Doug: And your question.
35:18 Ty: Why hasn't God destroyed Satan?
35:22 Doug: Okay, good question.
35:23 Why doesn't God just destroy Satan?
35:26 Well, you know, when children sometimes disobey their parents,
35:31 parents are very loving and patient.
35:34 They want their children to understand and obey them,
35:36 because they love them, because what they're asking
35:38 is good and reasonable.
35:43 That's the reason that God did not destroy the devil right
35:46 away, is He did not want the other angels obeying, because
35:49 they were afraid they were going to get killed
35:52 if they didn't disobey.
35:54 God doesn't want us motivated just by fear of punishment.
35:56 God wants us to obey Him because we love Him.
35:59 And the devil was accusing God of some terrible things,
36:01 so God had to allow Satan to demonstrate to the world
36:07 what was going to happen.
36:09 He's showing the world by His patience that following
36:11 the devil leads to all kinds of pain.
36:14 People had to find out and see what was going to happen.
36:16 So, you would enjoy--tell your parents to help you watch
36:19 the "Cosmic Conflict" DVD.
36:21 It's free.
36:23 You can watch it online.
36:24 Just go to YouTube and type in Cosmic Conflict.
36:27 It's the one with Pastor Doug, and you'll see it there.
36:30 Thanks so much, Ty.
36:32 Jean: The next caller that we have is Terry listening
36:33 in Tennessee.
36:34 Terry, welcome to the program.
36:36 Terry: Thank you, Pastor Ross.
36:39 Hi, Pastor Doug. Are you guys all right?
36:41 Doug: We're doing great. Thank you for calling.
36:44 Terry: No, thank you.
36:46 Jean: And your question?
36:48 Terry: Hello. Doug: Yeah, you're there.
36:50 Terry: Yeah, yeah.
36:53 It's not so much on the Scriptures, but I just kind of
36:55 wondered when the exiles that were put in Babylon,
37:02 when Jeremiah was a prophet, they stayed there 70 years,
37:07 and then they returned, okay.
37:09 Doug: Mm-hm.
37:11 Terry: Why didn't they set up the kingdom like it
37:13 was before the exile?
37:16 With their own king and everything
37:18 from the house of David?
37:20 Doug: Good question.
37:22 Yeah, they would loved to have done that; but when they were
37:25 allowed to go back from Babylon to Israel, they did it
37:28 under the rulership of the king of Persia.
37:32 In other words, all they could do was have a governor.
37:35 And so the king of Persia said, "You don't have a king anymore.
37:38 I am the king, and you will pay tribute to me.
37:42 But I'm going to give you your freedom,
37:44 and you'll have your own governor."
37:45 And from the time of the Babylonian captivity, there may
37:49 have been a brief period where they broke away
37:51 from the Greeks during the time of the Maccabees.
37:53 But other than that, they were under the Persians, then they
37:55 were under the Greeks, and then they were under the Romans,
37:58 and then the Romans destroyed the city.
38:01 They never had a monarchy again.
38:03 But when Jesus comes, He is the Son of David that
38:06 will reign over the New Jerusalem.
38:08 So, all the promises about Israel and God's people
38:12 inhabiting the world will be fulfilled in the Son of David,
38:15 Christ, when He establishes His kingdom.
38:18 Thanks so much.
38:19 I hope that helps a little bit.
38:21 Jean: All right, we've got Terry listening in Virginia.
38:23 Terry, welcome to the program.
38:24 Doug: Another Terry. Welcome.
38:27 Terry: Yes, hi. Thank you for taking my call.
38:31 Doug: Yes, and your question.
38:34 Terry: Is 1 Corinthians chapter 11:1-16,
38:42 Paul's opinion or is it a message from God?
38:45 And how should we understand it, please?
38:49 Doug: All right, well, you quoted a lot of verses, but I
38:52 think you're talking about where it talks about women covering
38:55 their heads when they pray, and that's the section,
38:58 if I'm not mistaken, right?
38:59 Terry: Right. Doug: Yeah.
39:02 So, the big question that people have here is was this a custom
39:07 of was this a commandment for every people in every age,
39:11 that women should not pray in public without
39:14 having their heads covered.
39:16 And most of the commentaries believe that Paul is addressing
39:21 the custom of respect during his time.
39:24 There's no command in the Old Testament we can find where
39:27 it says a woman must cover her head when she prays
39:30 or when she's in worship.
39:31 You do have examples of women that were praying in public.
39:36 It doesn't tell us what they might have had on their head.
39:38 I would say, first of all, if a person feels convicted about
39:41 this, well, by all means do it.
39:43 You know, if you go to Russia, still a lot of the Orthodox
39:46 churches, the woman always cover their heads when they pray,
39:48 and I've worshiped in Pentecostal churches, years ago,
39:52 whenever they prayed, they covered their heads,
39:55 if a woman was praying in public.
39:57 And but Paul mentions later in the verse--and I'm trying to
40:01 remember where it was--he said, yeah, verse 16, he says,
40:05 "If anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such
40:09 custom, nor do the churches of God."
40:11 So, he's using the word "custom" there, and it makes us think
40:14 they're talking about a custom of respect.
40:17 This is the only place this is mentioned.
40:20 So, you know, I don't know that they had these apostle Taliban
40:26 that were telling all the women that they had to cover their
40:28 heads or get thrown out of the church.
40:30 But there was a custom, and they were having problems in Corinth.
40:34 Some have said that, you know, the immoral women in the cities,
40:40 they used to braid their hair with chains of gold
40:43 and leave it uncovered.
40:45 And so to show that you are a believer, that you would cover
40:46 your hair, which was your glory, as a sign of submission to God
40:49 and even your husband.
40:51 So, this is the understanding I've seen from those verses.
40:53 Jean: All right, I think the point there is showing
40:56 respect and reverence.
40:57 Doug: Yeah.
40:58 Jean: And, of course, that's applicable not only to women,
41:00 also to men.
41:01 In our culture, if a man enters into a church, and he's wearing
41:04 a hat, the appropriate thing is to remove the hat,
41:07 a sign of respect.
41:09 If you go to different cultures, in other places around the
41:10 world, they also have different types of customs.
41:14 You go to some places where you have to wear a hat.
41:16 Doug: Yeah, you go into a Jewish synagogue,
41:18 you put the hat on.
41:20 So, you go to some churches, you take your shoes off.
41:22 Jean: Right, right.
41:23 So different places, but the principle there is the same,
41:26 showing reverence and respect.
41:28 Doug: Thank you, Terry.
41:29 Jean: We've got Bryan listening in Oklahoma.
41:31 Bryan, welcome to the program, Bryan in Oklahoma.
41:33 Bryan: Hi, thanks Pastors.
41:35 I appreciate y'all's ministry.
41:36 Doug: Thank you.
41:38 Bryan: So, my question is, is I think I've heard Pastor Doug
41:40 refer to Moses as a Christ type or a type of Christ.
41:43 Doug: Yes.
41:45 Bryan: And I was wondering if you could explain that for us.
41:47 Doug: Yeah, there's probably many ways where you could find
41:49 typology, how Moses is a type of Christ.
41:52 First of all, you don't want to get it from me.
41:55 You listen to what Paul says in 1 Corinthians chapter 10,
41:58 and he shows how the whole Exodus experience
42:02 is an allegory of salvation.
42:05 They were saved from the bondage of the devil, as we are saved
42:08 from the bondage of--they were saved from the pharaoh
42:11 as we're saved from the devil.
42:13 Moses was born from slaves, but he never served as a slave.
42:16 And Jesus was born of humans, but He never sinned.
42:20 Moses was what we call a mediator.
42:22 He would go up the mountain, and God would speak to him,
42:25 and he'd bring the message, and then they'd talk to Moses,
42:27 and he'd bring the message to God.
42:29 And Jesus is our mediator.
42:31 Moses was interceding for the people.
42:33 He would lift up his hands, and they would win the battle.
42:36 He stretched out his hands, and Jesus stretched out His hands.
42:37 The word Moses means drawn from the water.
42:41 Moses is actually an Egyptian word.
42:44 They even had some pharaohs that were called Tut-Moses.
42:46 It means drawn from the water.
42:49 And Jesus, you know, the Bible tells us in Revelation 17, the
42:52 waters represent multitudes of peoples and nations.
42:55 Jesus came from the people.
42:57 He came from the slaves to save the slaves, and Jesus came
43:00 from humanity to save humanity.
43:03 So, you've got Amram and Jochebed had three children.
43:06 You had a trinity of children, and they were all
43:09 prophets--Miriam, Aaron, and Moses--all prophets.
43:13 You have the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
43:16 They've got all kinds of illustrations.
43:18 And Moses had to die just before they crossed over.
43:20 Jesus had to die for us to be able to cross over.
43:23 So, I could go on and on.
43:25 I have a book I wrote on this.
43:27 Matter of fact, we're doing a new study series called
43:29 "Shadows of Light" on types of Christ in the Bible.
43:31 Moses is one of those lessons.
43:33 But there's a book.
43:35 You can just go to Amazon and type in "Shadows of Light,"
43:38 Doug Batchelor, and you'll see our book where
43:41 I've got a whole section on Moses.
43:42 Jean: All right, very good, thank you.
43:44 Next caller that we have is Kay, listening in Michigan.
43:48 Kay, welcome to the program.
43:50 Kay: Well, thank you.
43:51 I have just a quick question for you.
43:55 Sixty-six years I've been in the church, and I've always thought
43:59 I knew about the clean and unclean foods.
44:02 And my husband was listening to STR the other night, and a
44:09 pastor on there said he could not find in the Bible where you
44:15 could not eat duck.
44:17 And I can't find it either now,
44:20 but all my life I've been told no.
44:23 What is your opinion?
44:26 Doug: Well, first of all, I'd say if you're in doubt,
44:27 do the safe thing.
44:29 So, don't eat it.
44:31 But I do believe, at least in the King James Version,
44:34 it refers to swans as being unclean fowl.
44:39 And ducks and swans are in the same category.
44:41 I can't remember the scientific genus of how you say that.
44:45 But, you know, ducks are not a foraging bird.
44:49 The clean birds were usually the foraging birds that go around.
44:51 They peck.
44:53 Karen and I were walking today,
44:54 and we got surrounded by a herd of turkeys.
44:56 Are turkeys a herd?
44:57 Anyway, and, you know, they go around, they peck, they eat
45:01 seeds, they eat bugs, and there are pheasant, quail,
45:04 they're all the clean birds, the partridges, so forth.
45:07 They were safe for sacrifice.
45:10 You never see them sacrificing a duck or a swan.
45:13 So, I would say they're in the unclean category.
45:16 They usually muck around in the lakes.
45:18 They just have a whole different diet.
45:20 Anyway, I hope that helps a little bit.
45:23 Thank you.
45:25 Jean: Thank you, Kay.
45:26 We've got Mark listening in Arkansas.
45:28 Mark, welcome to the program.
45:30 Mark: Yeah, I was really having a hard time.
45:33 A lot of times we keep charging our acts and the influence of
45:38 the evil ones, and my understanding was Jesus says
45:41 that we've been led astray by our own natural tendencies.
45:44 And so I went to Jeremiah, the prophet Jeremiah, and he was
45:49 trying to tell us that the human heart is deceitful above all
45:53 things, and sometimes even desperately wicked, and that we
45:57 fall into something like foolish fears, diverse lusts, envy,
46:04 enslaving pleasures, malice, envy, and even vengeful hatred.
46:09 So, it seems to me that we are our own enemy,
46:13 and Satan really ain't our enemy.
46:15 It seems to me that we are.
46:17 Maybe I'm wrong, but if you're not connected to the vine,
46:20 Jesus Christ, then it's kind of hard to produce good fruits.
46:25 And I just was wondering what you thought about
46:27 the prophet Jeremiah, to tell us.
46:31 Doug: Well, absolutely, I agree completely
46:33 with the prophet.
46:34 I agree with all the Word, but I agree with Jeremiah
46:37 that the Bible does teach that an unconverted person,
46:41 the human heart is selfish and desperately wicked.
46:44 We all inherited these fallen natures from Adam and Eve.
46:48 And, originally, God created man to be motivated by love.
46:52 But because of sin, the compass was broken.
46:55 The needle now points inward instead of outward.
46:57 Instead of pointing it away from ourselves and loving God,
47:00 and loving others, it points to love of self as first.
47:03 And then but when you're born again, through the Holy Spirit,
47:08 you get a new nature, and you start learning, through
47:11 the Spirit, to love, and old things are passed away.
47:17 All things are become new.
47:19 You have new motives and new desires, and it doesn't change
47:21 all at once, but many things can change just through prayer and
47:25 accepting Christ, where you get the Holy Spirit.
47:28 You start thinking about love for God and how much He gave,
47:31 and we love Him because He first loved us.
47:32 We love others because we see how much He loves others.
47:36 And yes, the unconverted heart is evil and desperately wicked.
47:41 The Bible says, "All we, like sheep, we've gone astray.
47:44 We've turned each one to his own way.
47:47 The selfish, unconverted heart turns to its own way.
47:50 But when we encounter Jesus, and we're born again, we're made
47:54 new creatures, things change, and that's called conversion,
47:57 and that's what we all need to be praying for.
48:00 Keep our eyes fixed on Jesus, we become like Him.
48:03 Jean: All right, thank you, Mark.
48:05 We've got Megan listening in Canada.
48:07 Megan, welcome to the program.
48:10 Megan: Hi, thank you for having me.
48:12 Doug: Thanks for calling.
48:14 Megan: My question is about 1 Corinthians chapter 13, verse 1.
48:19 I've always understood tongues to mean languages.
48:24 But where it's talking about "if I speak in the tongues of men
48:29 or of angels," that made me wonder what
48:31 is speaking in tongues of angels?
48:34 'Cause I'm wondering if that's what some people use to explain,
48:40 like, sometimes there's, they would say they're speaking in
48:43 tongues, but it's not something that can be translated.
48:46 Doug: Yeah, I think you need to continue reading.
48:49 Well, first of all, I'm sure angels do have a language.
48:51 So, I don't doubt that for a moment,
48:53 because they do communicate.
48:55 Man is made a little lower than the angels, and we speak.
48:58 I'm sure the angels speak.
49:03 But when Paul says, "Though I speak with the tongue of men
49:05 and angels, and have not love, I'm just a sounding brass or
49:07 a clanging cymbal," Paul was not saying that he spoke
49:10 with the tongue of angels.
49:12 The word "though" means even if, because you read on.
49:15 He says, "And though I have the gift of prophecy and understand
49:18 all mysteries and have all knowledge," well, clearly, Paul
49:21 did not understand all mysteries and have all knowledge.
49:25 "And though I have all faith so I can move mountains,
49:27 if I have not love it's nothing."
49:29 And then he says, "And though I give my goods to feed the poor,
49:33 and though I give my body to be burned--"
49:35 Paul did not give his body to be burned.
49:37 He didn't give away all his goods to feed the poor.
49:40 So, Paul is saying that even if you do all these wonderful
49:42 things--he didn't say he did them all.
49:46 So, when he says, "Though I speak with the tongues of men
49:48 and angels," Paul is just using an illustration there.
49:51 He is not saying that he or anyone in the world speaks
49:54 with the tongue of angels.
49:55 So, does that make sense, Megan?
49:58 Megan: Yes, it does.
49:59 Thank you so much.
50:01 Doug: Okay you know--thank you.
50:02 And do me a favor.
50:03 There's a book we'll send you for free.
50:05 And anyone who wants to understand the gift of tongues
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50:15 Just call and ask for the book, "Understanding Tongues."
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50:21 Pastor Ross will give you the number.
50:23 Jean: The number is 800-835-6747.
50:26 And, again, you can just call and ask.
50:27 We'll send it to you for free.
50:29 It's called, "Understanding Tongues."
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50:33 You can also dial #250.
50:35 I almost forgot about that.
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50:42 Let's see, we've got Robert listening in Washington.
50:44 Robert, welcome to the program.
50:47 Robert: Hey, Pastor Ross and Pastor Batchelor.
50:50 Doug: Hi.
50:51 Robert: Hi there.
50:53 Glad I could be squeezed in.
50:56 Doug: Yes, sir. And your question?
50:59 Robert: It's regarding a thing that I've heard before,
51:02 people saying that once we die and go to heaven, there's three
51:11 levels of heaven: celestial, telestrial, and terrestrial.
51:17 And I've heard that it's supposed to be in
51:22 1 Corinthians 15, I think 37-42, something like that.
51:26 Doug: Yeah.
51:28 Robert: But that's the only place that it's referred to,
51:33 but I've always thought there's just one, there's only like
51:37 we either die or else we live forever.
51:42 There's only two options, I thought, but some people
51:45 tell me that there's three.
51:46 Doug: Yeah, the--I don't think that 1 Corinthians 15,
51:50 verse 35 and 40, rather, where it says there are celestial
51:55 bodies and terrestrial bodies and the glory of the celestial
51:58 is one body, the glory of the terrestrial is another.
52:02 There's also the glory of the sun and the moon.
52:05 The three heavens that it speaks about, that Paul talks about,
52:08 it's not talking about this.
52:10 It's a completely different teaching, a different--
52:13 what do you call it?
52:16 It's a different application.
52:17 The three heavens, they had the heaven that was
52:20 the atmosphere around the earth.
52:23 Then they have the heaven that was the starry bodies of space.
52:27 You can call them the celestial.
52:29 Then they have the heaven that is the dwelling place of God.
52:31 That's called the third heaven.
52:33 When Jesus comes back, it says,
52:34 "I'll make a new heaven and a new earth."
52:36 The heavens and the earth that now exist are going
52:38 to be burned up, meaning the atmosphere in the world.
52:41 You know, God separated the heavens from the heaven
52:43 there in Genesis.
52:45 The atmosphere is going to burn up.
52:46 That's one heaven.
52:48 When it says that you've got the stars in heaven, that's in
52:51 the moon, and the sun, and the stars, and the heavenly bodies.
52:54 That's the celestial bodies.
52:56 The heaven where paradise is,
52:58 the dwelling place of God is the third heaven.
53:00 So, I wouldn't make a strong tie between 1 Corinthians 15:40
53:05 and the three heavens.
53:08 Okay, Pastor Ross, we've got 2 minutes.
53:11 What can we do in that time?
53:12 Can we squeeze in half a call?
53:14 Jean: Absolutely, we've got, let's see, D-Rod listening
53:17 from New Jersey.
53:18 D-Rod, welcome to the program.
53:20 D-Rod: Hello, gentlemen, how are you doing?
53:22 I have a quick question about climate change.
53:24 It says in the book of Matthew like it was in the day with
53:27 Sodom and Gomorrah, and the days of Noah.
53:30 Climate change.
53:31 What's the cause of climate change?
53:34 To me, it's sin.
53:35 I just wanted to know.
53:38 Doug: That's a good question.
53:39 You know, I'm kind of rushing,
53:42 because we're against the clock here.
53:43 But, you know, the Bible tells us that the earth waxes
53:46 old like a garment, and the earth is being crushed
53:50 under a burden of sin.
53:52 And some, no doubt, man has had an impact on the environment.
53:59 You know, how much the warm and cold spells that
54:03 are in the extremes in weather are affected by,
54:06 you know, man's construction and CO2.
54:10 There's all kinds of debates about that, but there's no
54:12 question man is impacting the environment, just
54:15 in the deforestation and stuff.
54:17 I wish I could say more, but we are out of time.
54:20 Friends, don't go away, because we sign off.
54:23 Our regular listeners know that we've got people listening
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54:28 They're on a different clock than the land-based stations,
54:30 so we will be bidding them farewell in just a moment, but
54:32 we're going to stay by and answer some rapid fire Bible
54:36 questions that have come in from those who email us questions.
54:40 Some people don't want to call.
54:41 They say, "I'd just like to email it
54:43 and listen off the air."
54:44 What's the address to do that, Pastor Rodd?
54:46 Jean: BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
54:49 That's the email address.
54:50 Doug: Okay, BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
54:53 You can send us questions.
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55:26 Jean: Hello, friends, welcome back to "Bible Answers Live."
55:28 We want to thank you for your email questions
55:30 that you've sent in.
55:31 We're going to try and get through
55:33 as many of these questions as we can.
55:34 And as we mentioned before the break, if you have an email
55:37 question, just simply send it to BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
55:41 All right, Pastor Doug, the first question comes from Harry.
55:44 He's asking, "What is the sign mentioned in Matthew 24 that
55:48 talks about the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven?"
55:51 Doug: Yeah, well, some have wondered is that, like, when
55:55 Elijah said he saw a cloud the size of a man's hand coming
56:01 as a signal that the storm was coming?
56:03 Or is it where the Bible says the heavens will depart
56:07 as a scroll when it is rolled together,
56:08 and all the stars fall out of their place?
56:10 It's going to be some cosmic splitting sign that I think
56:14 everyone will recognize.
56:16 'Cause Jesus said it's like lightning going from
56:18 one end of the sky to the other.
56:20 So, something, when you look up,
56:21 says every eye will see when He comes.
56:23 So, something's happening
56:25 in the sky that's going to be unmistakable.
56:27 Jean: Okay, another question that we have, "Is the Spirit
56:30 referred to in Genesis 1, verse 2, is that the Holy Spirit?
56:33 And if so, is it the Spirit of the Father
56:36 or the Spirit of Jesus?"
56:38 Doug: Well, the Holy Spirit is not just talking about
56:42 the Spirit of the Father, the Spirit of Jesus.
56:44 The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Godhead,
56:46 and He is equally connected with God the Father and God the Son,
56:50 and yes it is the same Spirit.
56:52 You find the Bible beginning in Genesis, it talks about water
56:57 and the Spirit.
56:59 And then you go to Revelation.
57:02 It says, "The Spirit and the Bride say, 'Come.'
57:03 Whoever is athirst, let him come and take the waters of life."
57:06 So, you've got the Holy Spirit and the waters in the beginning
57:08 and at the end of the Bible.
57:09 It's God the Spirit.
57:10 Jean: Okay, we've got Ty asking from the UK.
57:14 "Are the 144,000 symbolic or literal?"
57:17 Doug: Yeah, good question.
57:19 You know, I think people think the 144,000 are the only ones
57:24 that are going to be saved in the last days.
57:26 On the Day of Pentecost in the upper room, you have the 12
57:30 apostles that were filled with the Holy Spirit, plus there was
57:33 120, and then a great multitude was baptized through them.
57:37 In Revelation 7, when it talks about the 144,000,
57:40 they're not the only ones.
57:43 It says through their ministry, have a great multitude that
57:46 comes out of the final tribulation
57:48 that no man can number.
57:50 So, they're not the only ones saved, but it may be a literal
57:53 number, just like the 12 apostles was a little number.
57:55 So, whenever you look at the 144,000,
57:59 just think they're like last-day apostles.
58:02 They're certainly not the only ones saved,
58:03 but they've got a special work.
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