Bible Answers Live

How Awful Goodness Is

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00:44 Now here is your host from Amazing Facts International,
00:48 Pastor Doug Batchelor.
00:50 Doug Batchelor: Hi, friends.
00:51 Would you like to hear an amazing fact?
00:53 The largest aircraft that ever flew was the Antonov 225 Mriya.
00:59 Mriya means dream in Ukrainian.
01:01 The aircraft was a modern engineering marvel featuring six
01:05 massive turbofan engines each as big as a cement mixer.
01:10 With an overall size that stretches far as a football
01:13 field from nose to tail and wingtip to wingtip,
01:16 the An-225 could carry 500,000 pounds of cargo.
01:20 That's twice as much as a Boeing 747 freighter.
01:24 It was designed and built in Ukraine throughout the 1980s to
01:28 transport the Soviet space shuttle, and it took its maiden
01:31 flight on December 21, 1988.
01:34 Because it had a maximum takeoff weight of up to 1.32 million
01:38 pounds, the An-225 had 32 landing wheels, with 20
01:42 of them that were steerable.
01:45 The monster aircraft made its international debut in style by
01:49 landing at the 1989 Paris Air Show with a Russian space
01:53 shuttle on its back.
01:55 Sadly, only one An-225 was made, and it was destroyed
02:00 by the Russian missiles in February 2022.
02:04 Anyone who ever saw this behemoth fly will never forget
02:08 the sensation of wonder that something so heavy and massive
02:11 could travel gracefully through the air.
02:14 You know, Pastor Ross, the Bible speaks of an even larger
02:17 transport that will someday go through the skies.
02:20 Jean Ross: That's right, Pastor Doug.
02:21 And no need for, you know, turboprop engines to move this
02:26 object through the sky.
02:28 But the Bible does speak of a city that's going to be coming
02:30 from heaven to earth, and of course that city is called
02:33 the New Jerusalem.
02:35 Doug: Yeah, and you can read about that.
02:36 If you look in Revelations 21, verse 2 and 3 it says, "Then I,
02:40 John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of
02:45 heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
02:49 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, 'Behold, the tabernacle
02:53 of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they will
02:57 be His people.
02:58 And God Himself will be with them and be their God.'"
03:02 You know, it's just--it's difficult sometimes for
03:05 people to imagine a city floating through the sky.
03:09 Well, it's not as difficult maybe as it used to be because
03:11 we've got a space station up there in the sky right now.
03:14 And if man can do it, then why would
03:16 we think God couldn't do it?
03:19 So it is real.
03:21 God has a real city in space that is going to come down out
03:24 of heaven to the earth, and He wants you in the city.
03:28 We have a special lesson that talks about heaven and this
03:32 colossal city.
03:33 Jean: That's right.
03:34 The study guide is actually called "A Colossal City
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04:11 Well, as mentioned, Pastor Doug, this is "Bible Answers Live."
04:13 So we want to welcome all of those who are joining us across
04:15 the country and around the world.
04:17 And for those who are tuning in on the internet we want to
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04:22 You know, before we get to the Bible questions, it's always
04:25 important for us to begin with prayer because
04:26 we're talking about God's book.
04:28 And if we're going to understand God's book correctly, we want
04:30 the Holy Spirit to be with us.
04:32 So let's do that.
04:33 Dear Father, we thank You for Your Word.
04:35 We thank You for the opportunity that we have to be able to
04:36 study and learn, and we do ask Your blessing.
04:38 Send the Spirit that inspired the book at the beginning to be
04:41 with us, Lord.
04:43 Be with those who are listening wherever they might be.
04:44 In Jesus's name, amen.
04:46 Doug: Amen.
04:47 All right, we're ready to go to the phone lines.
04:49 Our first caller for this evening is Elijah listening
04:51 in Washington.
04:52 Elijah, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
04:54 Elijah: Hello, pastors.
04:56 Thank you guys for taking my call.
04:57 Doug: Well, thanks for calling.
04:58 Elijah: So my question was, during Jesus's ministry on earth
05:02 here, did he remember his position in heaven in creating
05:08 the world and walking in the garden with Adam and Eve
05:12 and all those things?
05:14 That was my question.
05:16 And if he did or if he didn't, is there a reason why?
05:21 Which I'm sure there is a reason why, but--
05:23 Doug: Well, that's a good question.
05:24 Let's talk about that for a minute.
05:26 So I think you would agree, Elijah, that when Jesus was born
05:30 as a baby and he looked up at his mother and his father, he
05:34 did not have all of the knowledge of life and his
05:37 pre-incarnate existence in his mind or he would've come forth
05:41 into the world speaking.
05:44 He had to learn to speak.
05:45 That means he didn't know everything.
05:47 He probably had to learn to walk like a normal child, and it
05:50 seems that as he needed to know something his Father in heaven
05:54 would reveal it to him.
05:55 Now, did he know something of his pre-existence?
05:58 Yes.
05:59 Because he told the religious leaders, "Before Abraham was,
06:01 I am."
06:03 So he knew something, and he says, you know, "Abraham longed
06:06 to see my day and he saw it."
06:09 So I think that Jesus understood something.
06:13 I'm not sure that at the time he was living on the earth and
06:16 walking around it he had all the knowledge of the creation and
06:21 everything through eternity in his mind, but--I don't know.
06:24 I mean, it just doesn't say.
06:26 Jean: You know, just to add to that, Pastor Doug, one time
06:27 the disciples asked Jesus, they said when is he coming back; and
06:32 Jesus said, "No man knows the day or the hour.
06:34 Only the Father in heaven."
06:36 So at that point, the specifics hadn't been revealed to Christ.
06:40 Obviously, now he does. He's with the Father.
06:43 So they were some things, like you mentioned, that they were
06:45 revealed to Christ as needed by the Holy Spirit.
06:49 Doug: Yeah, so yeah, hopefully that helps, Elijah.
06:52 Good question.
06:54 Jean: All right, we've got Edward listening in Arizona.
06:55 Edward, welcome to the program.
06:58 Edward: Hey. How are you doing, pastors?
07:00 Doug: Doing wonderful. Thank you for calling.
07:02 Edward: Thank you guys for accepting my call.
07:04 If you're schizoaffectious, do you have to overcome the
07:07 schizoaffective disorder for your place,
07:11 I mean, in the kingdom of God?
07:13 And if so, how do you overcome it?
07:16 Doug: Well, the Lord meets us where we're at, and--you know,
07:19 I'm not saying that medical conditions can't be overcome
07:24 because of course Jesus can heal physical, mental,
07:27 psychological illnesses.
07:29 But that doesn't mean that a person that may be struggling
07:31 with these things will always be healed, and it doesn't mean that
07:36 something--you know, some medical condition you're born
07:38 with is going to keep you from the kingdom.
07:40 I think God expects us to surrender to Him, to trust Him,
07:43 we're saved by faith, and to walk in the light as we have it
07:47 and--any thoughts on that?
07:50 Jean: Absolutely.
07:52 You know, as we come to Christ, we can give ourselves completely
07:53 to him and say, "Lord, you know, give me the strength to change
07:55 those things I can change and then give me the courage and the
08:00 faith to accept those things that I can't."
08:03 And place it in your hand and believe that you
08:04 will work things out.
08:06 So it's a corporative relationship.
08:07 We're trusting in God to do the work that only He can do, but we
08:10 are surrendering ourselves to Him.
08:13 Doug: Yeah. Does that make sense, Gary?
08:15 I'm sorry. Edward?
08:16 Edward: Yeah, that does make sense.
08:19 Doug: Okay.
08:20 Well, you just keep trusting Jesus and ask him to help you
08:22 grow in grace and victory and, you know, always pray that he
08:27 can heal you because I never underestimate God's ability
08:30 to heal and to transform.
08:32 That's the new birth.
08:34 Jean: All right.
08:35 Next caller that we have is Gary listening in Illinois.
08:37 Gary, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
08:39 Gary: In the church it's often said as God protected
08:42 Israel during the plagues we'll be protected, but I see
08:45 in Matthew 24, verse 13 he who endures to the end
08:49 will be saved.
08:50 It implies that we're suffering because we are enduring.
08:53 And then, again, in verse 22, "But for the elect's sake these
08:56 days will be shortened."
08:58 It, again, implies that we're suffering, and I think
09:01 it's already happening.
09:02 In Illinois we've got tornados 2 and 3 miles wide travel
09:05 for hundreds of miles.
09:07 So my question is, is God protecting us
09:09 or what's going on?
09:12 Doug: Well, it's a mix, and let me use a Bible example.
09:16 The children of Israel who went through the ten plagues in
09:20 Egypt, God protected them through the last seven plagues,
09:24 but they also experienced the same calamity as the Egyptians
09:28 for--through the first three plagues.
09:30 So in the last days when the seven last plagues fall, God is
09:35 going to protect His people.
09:36 I don't think what you're seeing now are the seven last plagues
09:40 because once the seven last plagues begin probation is
09:43 closed and no one's going to be saved after that.
09:46 So do Christians, the righteous sometimes suffer along
09:49 with the wicked?
09:51 Yeah, that's always been the case.
09:53 God does love and also watches over His people.
09:56 But, you know, in times of trial believers often testify by their
10:01 faith through trial, not because He saves us from every trial.
10:06 And we grow patience through trial.
10:09 Jean: All right. Thank you, Gary.
10:10 We've got Junith listening in Nevada.
10:12 Junith, welcome to the program.
10:15 Junith: Hello.
10:16 A blessed evening, Pastor Ross and Pastor Doug.
10:19 Can you hear me?
10:21 Doug: Yes.
10:23 Junith: Yes? Okay, wonderful.
10:25 Thank you for taking my call.
10:26 My question is, did Jesus come to the world through the cruel
10:33 cross of Calvary not just to bring back his perfect circle of
10:40 love and his perfect shalom to earth--the planet earth but also
10:47 he did it because--to restore the same circle of his love and
10:54 shalom to the whole universe because in assassinating his
10:59 character by Lucifer the holy angels did not understand.
11:04 Can you please explain further more in that perspective?
11:09 Thank you.
11:10 Doug: Yeah.
11:12 So yes, Jesus--one of the things that Christ did by his death is
11:16 to restore a better image of the character of God.
11:22 That's why Jesus said, "If you've seen me,
11:24 you've seen the Father."
11:25 He said he came to reveal the Father among other things.
11:27 He also came as our sacrifice, and he also is restoring peace
11:31 not only to the planet.
11:33 It says he's going to make a new heaven and a new earth.
11:36 All things that were made were made by Jesus, meaning he made
11:39 the first heaven and earth; and then after the wicked are
11:44 judged, he creates a new heaven and a new earth.
11:47 And so there'll be a total restoration and Satan and his
11:52 angels and all the wicked are going to be destroyed
11:55 with an everlasting fire, meaning they're burnt up
11:57 forever and the universe has no more pain, sorrow.
12:01 All things are made new.
12:03 So it's a total restoration of His original plan,
12:05 but it's actually an upgrade.
12:07 Jean: You know, the Bible also tells us that when that
12:09 time comes, when the judgment has been taking place and
12:12 everybody sees the truth, every knee will bow and every tongue
12:16 will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.
12:18 There's no exceptions to that rule,
12:20 so that will include both the angels.
12:22 Even the devil himself will acknowledge that God is fair and
12:25 just in what He has done.
12:26 Now, that doesn't mean it's genuine conversion or
12:28 repentance, but there is an acknowledgment of God's
12:31 character and that'll be manifested right
12:33 at the end of time.
12:35 Doug: Thank you. Appreciate that, Junith.
12:37 Jean: All right, we got Brad listening in California.
12:38 Brad, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
12:41 Brad: My question pertains to Psalms 137, verse 1, and it's
12:46 kind of a two-part question.
12:48 I was wondering--I was always under the impression that when
12:49 David went to his grave, that he passed his blessing on to
12:53 Solomon and he thought that the throne would be established in
12:58 his bloodline forever yet in Psalms 137:1 he's writing the
13:04 song that the Israelites sang when they were taken captive in
13:07 Babylon, and I was wondering--I'm trying to wrap my
13:11 head around that.
13:13 Did he know that Israel would eventually be taken captive
13:16 and not tell his son?
13:19 Doug: Yeah.
13:20 First of all, you know, Jesus, Brad, didn't--I'm sorry.
13:23 David did not write all of the psalms.
13:26 David wrote about 70, maybe 71 of the psalms.
13:30 The later psalms are written by some of his musicians and others
13:33 like Asaph, and it talks about them.
13:36 You'll notice that some of the psalms will say
13:38 a Psalm of David, and then some of them, like 137,
13:41 it's talking about Babylon.
13:43 This is a psalm that was probably written
13:45 following the captivity.
13:47 Isn't that your understanding, Pastor Ross, that
13:48 they're--because it's saying,
13:50 "By the rivers of Babylon we wept."
13:51 This is after they had been captured by Nebuchadnezzar.
13:53 It's one of the later psalms.
13:55 And so I don't know if that helps with your question
13:58 just to know that David probably didn't write this one.
14:02 Brad: Yeah.
14:04 I was always under the impression that the whole book
14:05 of Psalms was written before Solomon took the throne.
14:07 Doug: I used to think that all the psalms were written by
14:10 David because so many of them began the Psalm of David, the
14:12 Psalm of David like Psalm 23.
14:14 But one psalm is written by Moses.
14:16 I think--is it 90 or 91?
14:18 It's written by Moses, and many are by Solomon,
14:20 some are by Asaph.
14:22 But David wrote about 70 as near as we can tell.
14:25 So just about half.
14:28 This is probably not one because it's talking about the
14:30 Babylonian captivity that happened many generations.
14:34 Now, it is true that the son of David--all the sons of
14:38 David--that was kept in the genealogy; and it mentions this
14:43 in Matthew, that Jesus is a direct descendant of David and
14:47 Solomon and that he is the ultimate son of David
14:51 that would reign forever.
14:53 So the line of the Davidic promise and the covenant
14:57 to David did not fail.
14:59 Some of the kings did not reign between the Babylonian
15:02 captivity and Christ.
15:04 I think even Zerubbabel was a descendant of David.
15:06 So briefly they had a governor.
15:09 But anyway, hope that helps a little bit.
15:11 Thanks so much. Appreciate that, Brad.
15:13 Jean: All right.
15:14 Next caller that we have is Mark listening in Alaska.
15:16 Mark, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
15:19 Mark: Hey. How is it going, pastors?
15:21 Thanks a got--a lot for you guys' passion.
15:24 I really enjoy your interpretations, and I really
15:28 enjoy listening to you guys sometimes because it helps me
15:32 with my interpretations.
15:34 Doug: Well, thank you.
15:35 We appreciate it, and glad we could be of service.
15:37 And your question tonight?
15:39 Mark: Yeah, I had a question on 13--Matthew 13:44,
15:43 and it talks about the treasure--the kingdom
15:48 is like a treasure hidden in a field.
15:51 And maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that--my
15:56 understanding is the treasure ain't hidden.
16:00 I think maybe I'm wrong, but--maybe correct me.
16:04 I think that Jesus is saying this treasure that is hidden
16:10 is the synagogue of Satan and they're in unity
16:14 and they're hard workers.
16:17 The secular civil government, they're such hard workers.
16:21 Don't you think that maybe Jesus was saying look at these people.
16:25 If the Christians could only work as hard as these people--
16:30 Doug: Okay, let's take a stab at it.
16:33 Now, I'm going to read this for our friends
16:34 who are listening, Mark.
16:36 A lot of folks are driving down the road and they can't look it
16:38 up, and this is in Matthew chapter 13, verse 44.
16:42 "Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a treasure hidden in a
16:45 field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes
16:50 and sells all that he has and buys the field."
16:53 Now, it is true that there are people in the world that are
16:55 very diligent workers.
16:59 But I think the picture in this parable--let me
17:02 just back you up.
17:04 In Bible times, they did not have banks as we do today.
17:06 And if people wanted to go shopping,
17:09 they'd get their money.
17:10 They didn't always keep it in the house because--maybe
17:12 a little bit because people could rob it.
17:16 And it was very common for people to bury their treasures
17:19 somewhere on their property, and it will often happen that
17:23 someone would die and someone else would find it.
17:26 Now, right here in Northern California
17:28 we had someone up the road.
17:30 They were out walking their dog and they found cans--some like
17:34 5-gallon old cans filled with gold coins
17:37 from the San Francisco Mint.
17:39 They're worth a fortune, millions of dollars
17:41 they found on their land.
17:43 Now this man he's leasing land and he's out plowing the land
17:46 and he uproots someone's treasure, and it says and he hid
17:49 it, means--he thought, "Oh, man, I know this field is very
17:52 valuable to get treasure."
17:53 He could just steal the treasure, but he doesn't.
17:55 He's honest.
17:56 He says, "I'm going to buy the field, then I own the treasure."
17:58 So he cover it up.
18:00 It says he goes and he buys the field.
18:01 He's willing to sell everything to get the field.
18:03 This is talking about really somebody who discovers the good
18:06 news of the gospel and they realize its value,
18:09 and they sell everything to get it.
18:11 Now, this parable is very much like the one follows about a
18:14 merchant who finds a beautiful pearl of great price
18:17 and he sells everything to get this one pearl.
18:20 The point is Jesus is saying they were willing to give all
18:24 for the treasure, and we need to be willing to--he says,
18:28 "If you don't forsake all, take up your cross and follow me,
18:31 you're not worthy."
18:32 That means we give God 100% of our heart.
18:34 He said we need to love Him more than our father, mother, sister,
18:36 brother, husband, wife.
18:39 We need to love Him first.
18:41 And so this is one of the many parables that talks about
18:43 it's worth everything to follow Christ.
18:47 Jean: All right. Thank you, Mark.
18:48 We've got Anna listening in Oregon.
18:49 Anna, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
18:53 Anna: Evening, pastors. Doug: Evening.
18:55 Anna: My question is about jewelry and what the Bible says
19:02 about it, but in particular wearing a cross.
19:06 Is that a form of, like, idol worship?
19:09 Doug: Well, I would say--you know, certainly there's going to
19:11 be a lot of people in heaven that wear crosses, but there's
19:13 really no command in the Bible that says to wear a cross.
19:16 We're told to bear the cross, and--you know,
19:19 the cross was a--it's an instrument of torture.
19:23 So I don't know that the--anywhere in the Bible had
19:25 ever told us to make crosses and bow to them and everything.
19:27 And I realized that--you know, Paul says, "I'm determined to
19:30 know nothing among you but Jesus Christ and him crucified,
19:34 and I'll glory in the cross."
19:35 And that means the sacrifice of Christ.
19:38 But sometimes we sort of make an idol out of the icon of the
19:42 cross and we're not really told to do that in the Bible.
19:46 Now, that--you know, that could be lumped together
19:48 with the idea of jewelry.
19:51 And, you know, folks that have listened to me for years know
19:55 that I think that there are commands in the Bible that
19:59 say--and principles that say that Christians should avoid
20:02 wearing jewelry and artificial ornamentation not only because
20:08 it's cost and the display, but there's some Scriptures like
20:11 where Peter says let the adorning not
20:12 be the outward adorning.
20:14 I think this is 1 Peter chapter 3.
20:17 Don't let it be the outward adorning the wearing
20:19 of gold or apparel.
20:20 Paul says let it not be gold and pearls and costly array.
20:24 Let it be modest, and--then in Isaiah talks about the daughters
20:28 of Babylon that go around with, you know, swishing as they go
20:32 wearing, and he talks about a number of jewelry items;
20:36 earrings and so forth, nose rings.
20:39 And I think Christians are best known by simplicity.
20:43 A few years ago a lot of televangelists got into trouble
20:45 with various scandals and the world was having fun making fun
20:48 of the televangelists, and many of them were prosperity
20:51 preachers that wore just a lot of gaudy jewelry and makeup and
20:55 they were mocked because of their appearance.
20:58 So I advocate that the Bible teaches Christians ought to be
21:02 modest--clean and neat, modest.
21:04 It doesn't mean we need to wear rags, but I think we ought to
21:07 avoid any kind of ornamentation.
21:10 And, again, there's nowhere--I know people think wearing
21:12 a cross is good luck.
21:14 Well, that's idolatry. You know, there's no good luck.
21:17 It's not a chicken bone or something
21:19 that--or rabbit's foot.
21:21 So yeah, just letting people know you're a Christian
21:24 is the best thing.
21:25 Now, I do have a book that actually talks about this.
21:28 It's called "Jewelry: How Much Is Too Much?"
21:31 Jean: And we'll be happy to send that to anyone here
21:33 in North America, in the US or in Canada.
21:35 The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
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21:57 We got Philip listening in Arkansas.
21:58 Philip, welcome to the program.
22:01 Philip: Hi. Good evening.
22:03 Thanks for taking my call.
22:04 Doug: Yes, thank you.
22:05 Philip: Revelation--yeah, I have a question on Revelation
22:07 13:13 through 14.
22:11 Do you guys think that the signs and wonders and miracles part of
22:14 the--that the second beast performs on the sight of the
22:18 first beast, has that started to become fulfilled yet?
22:21 And if so, do you think AI plays any type of role
22:25 with technology in the end?
22:27 Doug: That's a fascinating question.
22:28 I've been thinking a lot about AI this weekend.
22:31 I'll even make a public confession that I tried to
22:35 manufacture my first AI picture.
22:38 Well, I did.
22:40 I didn't do it, but I used one of the online programs to see if
22:42 it would produce a picture of angels flying through heaven
22:45 and it did.
22:47 Pretty kind of rough, but it did and I think, "Boy, this is a
22:50 scary technology."
22:51 Do I think that's the signs and wonders?
22:53 No.
22:54 The second beast is alive and well today.
22:57 I don't think that it's using the signs and wonders it's going
23:00 to use to manipulate the first beast and the rest of the world
23:04 yet because the spiritual issue haven't really matured.
23:08 I don't know if you have any thoughts on that, Pastor Ross.
23:10 Jean: Yeah, when it talks about it, one of
23:12 the signs specifically mentioned is it talks about
23:13 fire coming down from heaven that the second beast will do;
23:16 and we know from the Bible fire coming down from
23:19 heaven is often associated with the Spirit of God or a
23:22 counterfeit of the Spirit of God.
23:24 It can be a blessing or it could be a judgment.
23:26 So what we find in the last days is there's this religious
23:29 movement, and it appears as though God's blessing is on it.
23:33 There's the--fires coming out from heaven.
23:35 There's much emphasis on the Holy Spirit and miracles and
23:39 wonders, and it's not the Spirit of God.
23:41 It's a counterfeit spirit that is leading people astray in the
23:44 last days, and that power working with the political power
23:47 described as the second beast in Revelation 13
23:49 sets things up at the end.
23:51 Doug: Yeah.
23:53 Yeah, we remember in the story of Elijah that the great proof
23:55 that God was with Elijah is that fire came down from heaven.
23:59 So what's the world going to think when all of a sudden the
24:02 great proof that Elijah uses now being used by the counterfeit?
24:05 It's going to be very deceptive. Well, hope that helps a little.
24:08 Thanks so much. We got 2 minutes.
24:10 Can we do one more before our break?
24:11 Jean: We got Lee listening in Texas.
24:12 Lee, welcome to the program.
24:14 Lee: Yes, I was calling because I was supposed to
24:16 be re-baptized on Easter,
24:19 but being--but I've been baptized four times in my life
24:22 and being baptized again on Easter would
24:24 have been my fifth time.
24:26 My pas--the pastor that was going to do it said it's not
24:29 necessary being that I've been baptized so many times.
24:32 Do I still need to be re-baptized again
24:35 or is it not necessary?
24:37 Doug: Well, let me tell you, there's three principal reasons
24:40 a person might be re-baptized.
24:43 One would be if they've never been baptized biblically
24:46 by immersion.
24:48 Some people are baptized as babies and they just didn't know
24:50 what was going on, or they've been sprinkled and the Bible
24:52 is very clear we should be immersed in the water.
24:56 That's what the word baptized means.
24:57 Another reason to be re-baptized would be if you've come into
25:01 just a whole new understanding of what the truth is, and an
25:04 example of that would be Acts 19 where it says these 12--you read
25:09 the first few verses, these 12 Ephesian believers,
25:12 they had heard about John the Baptist.
25:15 They got baptized by immersion.
25:16 But they had not heard about Jesus.
25:18 They had left town before they heard about that and the
25:20 outpouring of the Spirit.
25:22 Paul preached them all this new truth they'd missed and they
25:24 said, "We want to get baptized again."
25:26 And they were and they were filled with the Holy Spirit.
25:28 Third reason to be re-baptized would be is--you've kind of
25:32 divorced yourself from the Lord.
25:36 It doesn't mean, you know--so you're baptized and then you sin
25:39 and you make a mistake, you got to run and get baptized again.
25:42 Well, we'd all be getting baptized every week
25:44 if that was the case.
25:46 So--but if a person is totally--they've stopped
25:49 going to church.
25:50 They've backslidden.
25:52 And it's not that they get discouraged for a week or two
25:54 but the tenor of their life they sort of divorce themselves from
25:57 the church and the Lord, when they return it would probably be
26:01 appropriate to be re-baptized but not in every case and
26:05 it--there's variables.
26:07 Now, how often should a person be re-baptized?
26:09 Well, it's like marriage.
26:11 You know, you--if a person says, "I've been married ten times,"
26:14 well, you think there's a problem there.
26:16 It's a sacred ordinance, and you don't want to be doing it
26:20 carelessly or frequently.
26:22 So it should be done with great care, and that covenant
26:26 should be protected.
26:29 Sometimes a person could just go through the communion service
26:31 and that will serve like a mini baptism,
26:35 and it gives them--gives all of us a new beginning.
26:38 So I hope that helps a little bit.
26:40 And we do have a book on "Baptism: Is It Necessary?"
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30:31 My name is Doug Batchelor.
30:33 Jean: My name is Jean Ross, and we got a number of callers
30:36 waiting with their Bible question.
30:37 We're going to go to Joan in Australia.
30:40 Joan, welcome to the program.
30:42 Joan: Hello, how are you?
30:43 Doug: Hi, doing good. Thanks for calling.
30:45 Joan: My question comes today from 2 Kings 5.
30:48 It's the story of Captain Naaman and--with the prophet
30:52 Elijah--Elisha and Gehazi, and I just want to--if you
30:57 could help me paint the picture.
31:02 Gehazi went accepted by lie a payment, went back and the
31:10 prophet said, "Did my heart not go with you as it now
31:14 that you accept payment?"
31:17 And then Prophet Elisha says, "Captain Naaman's leprosy
31:23 will now be with you."
31:26 And he walked out as white as snow, Gehazi.
31:28 So as the story goes on in the Bible with Elisha, it also
31:34 continues with Gehazi.
31:36 So I was just thinking--so does he continue working with the
31:41 prophet as white as snow, with leprosy?
31:45 Doug: Yeah. No.
31:46 I think the next time you see Gehazi he may be--well,
31:48 there's two possible times.
31:50 There are four lepers in 2 Kings chapter 6.
31:54 They're in 2 Kings chapter 7 during a famine,
31:57 and Josephus is one of those four lepers that said,
32:01 "We're not doing what is right. This is a day of good news."
32:04 May have been Gehazi.
32:06 Later you see Gehazi, he's talking to the king and telling
32:09 the king about the miracles of Elisha.
32:13 And a person might say, "Well, if he's got leprosy, what's he
32:14 doing talking to the king?"
32:16 Well, there's a few different possibilities.
32:18 One is that he was later healed and forgiven.
32:22 Doesn't say that in the Bible.
32:24 The other is even people with leprosy could communicate,
32:28 but they had to keep a certain distance.
32:29 And so maybe he was talking to the king.
32:32 It was some distance between them because he was unclean.
32:36 That's a difficult scenario to imagine.
32:40 So--you know, we can only speculate, but Gehazi does
32:43 appear later in the story after he gets leprosy.
32:48 He's talking to the king and telling about
32:49 the miracles of Elisha.
32:51 So he may have been healed. It's hard to say.
32:53 Joan: Yeah, and the other one last story was the
32:56 lady that didn't have a child.
33:00 Doug: Yeah, the Shunammite woman.
33:02 Yeah.
33:04 And the story of the Shunammite--not all the stories
33:06 of Elisha's miracles are in chronological order.
33:09 The emphasis is that Elisha has doubled the Holy Spirit
33:12 of Elijah and then it begins to recount examples
33:15 of his miracles.
33:17 I'm not sure that they're all written in chronological order.
33:20 So the Shunammite, I think, happened before
33:24 the story of Naaman.
33:27 Joan: Okay. Thank you.
33:28 Doug: Thanks. Great questions.
33:30 Jean: All right, next caller that we have
33:32 is Abigail in Florida.
33:33 Abigail, welcome to the program.
33:36 Abigail: Hi, pastors. How are you guys?
33:38 Doug: We're doing much better than we deserve.
33:41 Abigail: Awesome.
33:42 My question is in Matthew 27:52, 53.
33:49 Who were the saints they were referring to?
33:52 Were they people, and did they ascend into heaven
33:55 or where did they go?
33:56 Doug: Okay, good question.
33:59 In Matthew 27 it talks about that when Christ died on the
34:03 cross after he cried out, "Lord, you know, into Your hands
34:05 I commend my spirit.
34:07 It is finished," there's a great earthquake, and in connection
34:11 with that earthquake it says many of the graves--not all.
34:13 It's not a universal resurrection, but many--and not
34:17 all the graves around Jerusalem, but some of the graves of
34:20 saints, saved people who were resting in their graves around
34:24 Jerusalem, were opened.
34:26 And then after when Christ came out of his grave Sunday morning,
34:29 some of them arose and appeared to people in Jerusalem briefly
34:34 probably because it's not even mentioned in John
34:37 or Mark or Luke.
34:39 But there were people who saw some of the resurrected saints
34:42 that evidently they ascended to heaven with Christ when he
34:44 ascended after he'd spoken with Mary.
34:47 And who were they? Doesn't name them.
34:49 There are some people who are believers in God, faithful,
34:54 buried somewhere in the area around Jerusalem and probably
34:58 not John the Baptist because I think he was buried down by the
35:01 Jordan somewhere.
35:03 It--you know, it could have been people like Isaiah.
35:05 We don't know. It doesn't say their names.
35:07 But how many, we don't know.
35:10 But there is a first fruits that--I think you've got a verse
35:13 in Ephesians talks--
35:14 Jean: Yeah, there is.
35:16 Ephesians chapter 4, verse 8 actually talks about a group
35:17 that ascended with Jesus, and here you have Paul quoting
35:21 the Old Testament.
35:22 He says, "For when he ascended on high, he led captivity
35:25 captive, and gave gifts unto men."
35:28 And he's actually quoting here from Psalm 68, but it's
35:32 referring to those who are held captive by death
35:34 or by the grave.
35:36 They were resurrected and they ascended with Jesus when he
35:38 ascended to heaven.
35:40 Doug: Yeah.
35:41 So hope that helps a little bit, Abigail, and--yes, we do have a
35:45 study guide that talks about the dead and it's--and the
35:48 resurrection that says "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
35:51 And if you're interested, we can send you a free copy of that.
35:53 Jean: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747 and, again,
35:57 just ask for the study guide.
35:58 It's called "Are the Dead Really Dead?"
36:00 Next caller that we have is Inga listening in Canada.
36:03 Inga, welcome to the program.
36:05 Inga: Hello, pastor.
36:06 Doug: Hi.
36:08 Inga: Hi.
36:09 My question is, is there going to be technology in heaven?
36:13 Doug: Well, when you say technology--of course, you know,
36:17 God is the author of all true science.
36:20 And so there--will there be scientific wonders?
36:23 I would think of course.
36:25 Will we have smartphones?
36:28 Probably not because I'm thinking that a lot of things
36:31 that the smartphones are doing now we'll be able to do in
36:33 supernatural ways when we get to heaven.
36:36 We won't need a GPS.
36:38 I think the Holy Spirit is going to tell us where we are.
36:40 We'd get lost pretty quick in the universe without
36:42 some kind of divine GPS.
36:46 But we'll be--you know, we'll be probably doing all kinds of
36:49 research into the beauties and wonders of God, and I--it says
36:52 we're going to plant vineyards and eat the fruit
36:55 and build houses.
36:56 So we're doing constructive things.
36:58 Is it plausible that as history goes by we'll be making things?
37:03 Yeah, I believe so.
37:05 Jean: All right. Thank you.
37:07 Next caller that we have is Jerry listening in Oregon.
37:08 Jerry, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
37:12 Jerry: Good evening, Pastors Ross and Batchelor.
37:16 I'm reading John 5:24, which says, "Verily truly I tell you,
37:22 whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has
37:27 eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from
37:32 death to life."
37:34 But the--when I look at Matthew 12:36
37:41 it says that everyone will
37:45 have to give an account of every idle word.
37:48 And then Revelation 20:12 says that the books are open and the
37:56 dead are judged according to what they have done.
38:01 So my question is, are the believers judged or not judged?
38:07 Doug: All right, let me--there's one more.
38:09 You've read some good verses there.
38:11 You can look--well, I might give you two more.
38:12 Romans 14:10 Paul says in the last part of that, "For we will
38:16 all stand--" He's talking to the church.
38:19 "We will all stand before the judgment seat of Christ."
38:22 And then if you look in 2 Corinthians 5:10 it says, "For
38:27 we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that
38:30 each one may receive the things done in the body."
38:33 So with that in mind, what does it mean there in the Gospel of
38:36 John where it says we've passed from judgment?
38:39 I think that he's basically saying that because of the blood
38:43 of Christ our sins are stricken from the books.
38:46 So when they look in the books it says forgiven, but the books
38:49 are going to be examined and the only way that our deeds are not
38:53 going to rise up against us is if they are confessed, repented
38:57 of, and under the blood of Christ.
38:59 But there's still a judgment that reveals that.
39:03 Now, some judgment takes place before Jesus comes because I
39:06 think it's obvious to everybody that if Christ is distributing
39:10 rewards when he comes some investigation takes place before
39:14 he comes, sometimes referred to as a pre-Advent judgment.
39:19 So the judgment sort of happens in three phases.
39:21 It tells us that we will judge angels, Paul says.
39:25 During the millennium, judgment is given to the saints and
39:28 there's--we're looking at the judgments of God, of why some
39:31 people maybe aren't there and why some people are there.
39:35 I can picture in the resurrection that when Stephen
39:38 sees the apostle Paul in heaven he's going to think the angels
39:41 did something wrong because the last time Stephen sees Paul he
39:45 was killing Christians.
39:47 Now he's in heaven.
39:48 So the--Stephen will get to look at the judgment books.
39:52 And so we're sort of looking at some of the judgments of God.
39:54 And then there's a final Great White Throne Judgment where all
39:57 the dead are resurrected, and that's called an executive
39:59 judgment.
40:01 They're given their penalty, but, again, the books are opened
40:03 and every knee, saved, lost, devils, angels--everybody is
40:07 going to bow before Christ and say he is Lord.
40:11 Jean: You know, we have a couple of study guides
40:12 that talk about the judgment.
40:14 People want to learn more about that, if you call and ask for
40:17 "The Final Judgment."
40:19 It's one of the Amazing Facts study guides.
40:20 We'll be happy to send that to you.
40:22 You can also ask for the one called "Right on Time."
40:24 That is sort of part one and part two about the judgment.
40:27 The number to call for that is 800-835-6747, and you can ask
40:32 for the study guide called "Right on Time"
40:34 and "The Final Judgment."
40:36 It'll tell you all about what's happening in this heavenly
40:38 courtroom that's described in the Bible.
40:40 So 800-835-6747.
40:44 Next caller that we have is Aaron listening in New York.
40:46 Aaron, welcome to "Bible Answers Live."
40:50 Aaron: Good evening, pastors. Doug: Evening.
40:53 Aaron: If a stranger insults you by calling you a derogatory
40:56 word for no apparent reason and immediately leaves you so that
41:00 you cannot ask them what happened, is it okay to do
41:04 nothing about the insult and act like it never happened or should
41:09 you give a prayer for forgiveness for that stranger?
41:13 Doug: Well, Jesus said, "When people say all manner of evil
41:18 against you falsely for my name's sake, rejoice."
41:22 And the Bible then tells us to turn the other cheek and pray
41:25 for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.
41:28 So the answer on both counts according to Jesus's teaching
41:30 is as far as possible try and turn the other cheek.
41:35 Now, if I'm standing on the corner and some lunatic comes up
41:38 and starts, you know, taking swings at me, I'll probably
41:40 defend myself.
41:41 But, you know, if someone insults you, you just turn the
41:44 other cheek.
41:46 I get criticism all the time.
41:49 Some of it's deserved, some of it's just being mean and, you
41:52 know, I don't respond or retaliate because, you know,
41:55 that's what Jesus did and that's what I think he wants us to do.
41:58 When they--you look at the trial of Christ, they said all kinds
42:01 of terrible things to him and about him and he really didn't
42:04 defend himself and Pilate was amazed.
42:08 So--and then, of course, pray for.
42:10 Jesus prayed for those crucifying him.
42:12 So should we pray for people that spitefully use us
42:15 and persecute us?
42:17 Yes. Is it hard?
42:18 Yes.
42:19 But that's where we're developing Christian virtues.
42:22 Thanks, Aaron. I appreciate that.
42:24 Jean: Next caller that we have is Carlos listening
42:26 in Florida.
42:27 Carlos, welcome to the program.
42:29 Carlos: Good evening, pastors. Doug: Hi.
42:32 Carlos: Hebrews 4, verse 4 says, "For he spake in a certain
42:38 place of the seventh day on this wise,"
42:41 comma--what certain place?
42:47 And I'm not understanding this term here where--do you have a
42:51 king--are you guys reading from King James?
42:54 Doug: Yeah, well, I've got the New King James here.
42:56 It's almost identical.
42:58 Carlos: So it says, "For he spake in a certain place of
43:01 the seventh day on this wise."
43:04 Doug: On this wise means in this way.
43:07 Yeah.
43:08 And he's quoting from the Old Testament in Exodus 20 where it
43:11 says God rested the seventh day, and he may also be quoting from
43:14 Genesis 2:2 because it says it in both places.
43:18 Carlos: So the place he's speaking from
43:20 is the seventh day?
43:22 Doug: Well, no.
43:24 It means that the--that King David, he's quoting about--he's
43:26 talking about King David in chapter 4 of Hebrews, and it
43:30 says for he spoke in a certain place--actually he's talking
43:32 about--for God spoke in a certain place of the seventh day
43:37 and God rested from His work, and he's talking about where in
43:40 Genesis 2:2 it says that God rested from His work
43:45 in creating the world.
43:47 Carlos: What is a certain place?
43:49 Doug: What is a certain place?
43:51 It means in the--a place in the Scripture, and the place
43:53 is--yeah, he's talking about--he's spoken--he's quoting
43:56 various verses.
43:58 Like if you look in verse 3 it says, "So I swore in my wrath
44:01 they will not enter my rest."
44:02 Here he's quoting from Psalm 95.
44:06 So Hebrews, he's going through different places
44:09 in the Old Testament.
44:11 I think there are more quotes--more Old Testament
44:13 quotes in Hebrews than any other New Testament book.
44:16 I think Matthew and Romans might be next.
44:18 Hey. Thank you, Carlos.
44:19 I hope that helps a little bit.
44:21 Jean: Next caller that we have is Troy listening
44:23 in Massachusetts.
44:24 Troy, welcome to the program.
44:26 Troy: Good evening, pastors.
44:27 I just want to thank you guys for your faithfulness,
44:29 and Amazing Facts have had a huge impact on my family.
44:32 So I just want to thank you guys.
44:34 My question now, it's about Daniel and Ezra.
44:39 We know the 70-week prophecy with Ezra chapter 7 is where it
44:44 starts the 70-week prophecy.
44:46 And I'm reading Ezra now in Ezra chapter 4 with the resistance of
44:50 building the temple and it says Artaxerxes had sent a letter to
44:59 cease the work that's been going on in Jerusalem, and it says
45:03 until the second year of the reign of Darius king of Persia.
45:06 It's Ezra chapter 4 and verse 24.
45:09 My question is, is this the same Artaxerxes that comes forth
45:13 in chapter 7?
45:14 Because in chapter 6 we have the issuing of the decree of Darius
45:20 and in chapter 1 was from Cyrus.
45:22 I'm just kind of confused if it's the same Artaxerxes in
45:26 chapter 4 that's in chapter 7, if that makes any sense.
45:30 Doug: Yeah, I--yeah, good question.
45:32 I think that it is different.
45:36 You know, sometimes they had sons--or rulers.
45:38 There's actually more than one Darius that had the same name.
45:42 There's a Darius during the time of Daniel and then years later
45:45 you get another Darius during the time of Ezra.
45:48 And I could be wrong, Pastor Ross, but I think the one in
45:51 chapter 7 is the Artaxerxes who did the decree that allowed them
45:54 to go home, and the one who put up a blockade that you find in
45:58 chapter 4, I think, it was a different king during a
46:02 different time.
46:04 So I don't know if you know more about that.
46:08 Jean: Yeah, I was just going to mention
46:09 a couple of other--there are three decrees
46:11 that are particularly significant to the Jews that
46:13 allowed them to go back and restore and rebuild Jerusalem;
46:16 and the first decree was by Cyrus, the second was by Darius
46:22 in 519, and then Artaxerxes was in 457 BC.
46:27 So that's the one that's really recorded for us in Ezra; is the
46:30 decree that allowed the Jews to go back not only rebuild the
46:33 temple but actually the wall of the city, and that's the decree
46:37 in 457 BC that starts the 70 weeks or the 490 years.
46:41 So is there another Artaxerxes?
46:43 There could be, but this is the one that the Bible speaks of,
46:46 especially in Ezra, as being the most significant
46:49 in issuing that decree.
46:50 Doug: Yeah. The decree is actually found in chapter 7.
46:52 So I think he's wondering, is the Artaxerxes in chapter 4
46:56 the same one in chapter 7?
46:58 And I'm trying to go back in my Persian history and remember.
47:01 I just remember there were some of these kings that had the same
47:03 name, but I know the Artaxerxes in chapter 7.
47:06 That's the decree of 457.
47:09 So I'm going to have to go look that up again because I'm
47:11 second-guessing what I said.
47:14 That just goes to show you, friends, we don't have all the
47:16 answers, but we'll research that, Troy.
47:19 I want to make sure I'm giving you the right answer.
47:20 Thank you.
47:22 Jean: Thanks.
47:24 Next caller that we have is Nicole listening in Michigan.
47:25 Nicole, welcome to the program.
47:27 Nicole: Hi, how are you?
47:29 Doug: Doing good. Thank you for calling.
47:31 Nicole: Good.
47:33 I have a question about Numbers chapter 28, verse 7.
47:35 It says that strong drink was to be offered in the sanctuary.
47:41 What is that strong drink?
47:43 Because I'm under the impression that the people of God were not
47:46 supposed to have anything to do with alcoholic beverages and
47:49 definitely not in the sanctuary.
47:51 So what is this strong drink there?
47:54 Doug: Yeah. That's, I think, often misunderstood.
47:57 The word strong there, it could in some places mean strong
48:02 as in alcohol.
48:04 They had another word for strong, and it's the word
48:06 like concentrated.
48:08 Now, you've probably had orange juice before that was made
48:11 from concentrate.
48:14 I'm guessing you've tasted what orange juice from concentrate
48:18 tastes like before you add the water, and you could say
48:21 that's really strong.
48:23 The Jews used to actually dehydrate their grape juice so
48:28 they could transport it and--you know, liquids are very heavy.
48:31 They would dehydrate it, make it into a syrup, and then they'd
48:35 reconstitute it.
48:36 That sometimes was called strong drink.
48:38 The word strong there meaning intense or concentrated.
48:42 It might not be alcoholic at all and it, matter of fact, could be
48:46 very sweet, almost a syrup.
48:48 But then you'd add water again and it was just right.
48:51 This may very well be what they're talking about because I
48:53 don't think God approved them using alcohol.
48:57 The two sons of Aaron were burnt to death.
49:01 God rained fire down on heaven from them for drinking alcohol
49:05 before they went to the sanctuary.
49:06 It would seem strange that He would then endorse people
49:09 bringing alcohol into the sanctuary.
49:12 Jean: And, of course, we do have Leviticus.
49:13 Actually, Leviticus chapter 10, verse 9 says, "Do not drink wine
49:16 or intoxicating drink when you or your sons who are with you go
49:19 into the tabernacle of meeting."
49:22 So part of the sacrifice that was given would also be used to
49:25 help sustain the priesthood.
49:27 So the priests were clearly told that they were not to be
49:29 drinking alcohol when they were involved in the sacrifice.
49:32 So it was a concentrated sort of grape juice that could be
49:37 diluted with water.
49:39 Doug: Yeah.
49:40 And if you--I've got a book called "Alcohol and the
49:42 Christian."
49:44 I think it references--I wrote it, you know, 15 years ago so I
49:45 don't even remember everything that's in it, but I think it
49:47 references the strong drink that you find in this passage.
49:52 Jean: The number to call for that is 800-835-6747.
49:55 You can ask for the book called "Alcohol and the Christian."
49:58 We'll be happy to send it to anyone who calls and asks.
50:00 You can also dial #250 on your smartphone, ask for "Bible
50:04 Answers Live," and then ask for the book "The Alcohol--or
50:07 Alcohol and the Christian."
50:09 Next caller that we have is Mike listening in Missouri.
50:11 Mike, welcome to the program.
50:13 Mike: Well, here let me get to it real quick.
50:15 My question concerns Acts chapter 12, verse 4 of the King
50:20 James Version.
50:22 And according to the Julian concordance the word for
50:26 Passover in that particular passage is Easter.
50:30 Now, this question is based on hearsay.
50:33 I've never been able to find this in writing, but this person
50:37 told me that east--I'm going to state it in the question.
50:45 Is Easter the correct name for Passover when calculated
50:48 by a Julian calendar?
50:52 Doug: No.
50:54 Well, the word Easter is not the word in the original when
50:58 they're translating it into English because the time of the
51:05 Passover is the same time of year as the Catholics that
51:09 celebrated and even the Orthodox Church, or whether you call the
51:12 Church of England, the same time they celebrated Easter.
51:17 Not always the same day because they would pick it differently.
51:19 The Jews used more of a lunar cycle that--it's basically just
51:24 saying that Herod was going to execute Peter
51:26 during the Passover or after Passover was over.
51:30 I think it's letting us know that's the same time
51:31 of year they were going to--they did execute Jesus.
51:34 So they use the word Easter there in the King James,
51:37 but you'll find in most other versions
51:39 they translate that Passover.
51:41 What the exact date was, I think, it would be according to
51:43 the Jewish calendar, not the Roman calendar
51:46 because this is written by a Jew.
51:48 So it's a lunar calendar, the Jewish civil calendar.
51:51 Mike: Okay.
51:53 Doug: He's just saying that--Herod didn't execute him
51:55 right away because they're waiting for the Passover
51:57 to be over.
51:58 Jean: And if you look at the same verse in the New King
52:01 James, which is very close to the King James, it does use the
52:03 word Passover in place of Easter.
52:05 So it sort of corrects that, a better word in that case.
52:10 All right, thank you.
52:12 Next caller that we have is Linda listening in California.
52:13 Linda, welcome to the program.
52:16 Linda: Thank you.
52:18 I'm confused about which are the people who will fight with the
52:23 devil against the New Jerusalem.
52:27 Doug: Who will be fighting against the devil?
52:31 Linda: No, with the devil.
52:32 Doug: Who's fighting with the devil?
52:34 Well, it tells us Gog and Magog.
52:35 The devil rallies Gog and Magog, and you find that in Exodus
52:37 chapter 20 and Exodus 20 is sort of quoting
52:41 from Ezekiel 37 and 38.
52:44 Gog and Magog--sorry.
52:45 Yeah, Revelation.
52:47 Thank you very much.
52:49 Revelation chapter 20.
52:50 Linda: Where did the people come from because before the
52:52 second coming the earth is--
52:55 Doug: I'm getting to that.
52:57 Linda: Okay, got you.
52:58 Doug: Yeah, they're resurrected.
53:00 It says the rest of the dead--and now we're in
53:02 Revelation chapter 20.
53:04 The rest of the dead liveth not again until the thousand years
53:07 are finished.
53:08 So the dead in Christ rise first.
53:10 So all the righteous are resurrected.
53:12 There's only one group left who are the rest of the dead.
53:14 If all the righteous are resurrected in the first
53:16 resurrection, it says the dead in Christ rise first in
53:19 1 Thessalonians, who would the rest of the dead be, Linda?
53:24 Linda: The lost.
53:25 Doug: That's right. It's the wicked.
53:27 It calls them Gog and Magog in Revelation because Revelation
53:30 uses symbolic names for almost everybody.
53:33 It uses Balaam and Napoleon and the lamb and the lion and
53:38 Jezebel, and it uses Gog and Magog because in the Old
53:41 Testament those were enemies of God's people from antiquity.
53:46 Gog and then you've got Magog means from the matrix
53:50 of Gog or the children of Gog.
53:52 So it's like Babylon and her daughters.
53:54 Gog and Magog, the wicked and the children of the wicked
53:57 of--you've got the good.
53:59 It says the woman and the seed of the woman.
54:01 So you got the good side and the children of the woman.
54:04 You got the bad side and the children of the wicked, and--so
54:08 it's in that--all who have ever lived from every generation,
54:12 they are coming against the people of God and the devil
54:14 is rallying them to assault the city of God.
54:18 And I think you also find that in the Book of Zechariah chapter
54:20 14, and God delivers His people at the crucial moment.
54:25 Now, I hope that helps a little bit, Linda.
54:27 We thank you, friends.
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55:29 Jean: Hello, friends.
55:30 Welcome back to "Bible Answers Live."
55:32 And, again, as Pastor Doug mentioned just on the other
55:33 side of the break, we're going to take some
55:34 of your email questions.
55:36 So if you'd like to send us an email question, our email
55:38 address is BALquestions@amazingfacts.org.
55:44 And we'll try to answer as many of these questions as we can in
55:47 the time allotted, about 2 1/2 minutes.
55:49 Pastor Doug, first question we have, "If Satan was cast to the
55:53 earth, where did he go during the flood?"
55:56 Doug: Yeah, I think people sometimes wonder
55:58 if the whole world was flooded and if the devil was not
56:00 in the ark, then--you know, they're
56:03 looking at the devil as though he's got a physical body, but
56:07 the Bible says we do not wrestle--Ephesians chapter 6,
56:10 we do not wrestle against flesh and blood.
56:12 I mean, if we did, I'd love to punch the devil in the nose.
56:15 Of course, I'm probably not stronger than him physically.
56:17 But he's a spirit and he can sometimes manifest himself in
56:22 physical ways, but ultimately he's a spirit.
56:25 So I don't think he was worried about drowning per se.
56:29 He didn't need scuba gear or anything, but he probably saw
56:32 the catastrophe of the elements and feared for his own existence
56:37 when he saw what was happening to humanity.
56:39 He saw the terrible judgment that came on mankind.
56:41 He probably feared; but no, he didn't need
56:43 to worry about drowning.
56:46 Jean: Okay.
56:47 We have Rachel asking, will the 144,000 know that they are part
56:50 of this group during the time that they're on the earth?
56:54 Will it not be made known to them until
56:56 Jesus's second coming?
56:59 Doug: Well, it's a good question, and I'm not sure
57:00 I know the answer.
57:02 The 12 apostles knew that they were the 12 that had
57:07 been specifically chosen.
57:09 Will the 144,000 know that they're, you know, 142,003?
57:16 No, not necessarily.
57:18 I think that there's going to be a special Spirit-filled group of
57:22 apostles you might see in the last days doing a great work,
57:25 but they may not know that they're one of them.
57:29 Jean: All right.
57:30 Next question that we have, "Can fallen angels still repent and
57:32 be saved, or is the plan of salvation
57:34 only for human beings?"
57:36 Doug: Well, probation is open for humans now.
57:38 There was probably a time when angels could have repented.
57:41 God gave them a period of grace, and we don't know it.
57:43 It may have been thousands of years while this debate
57:45 went on in heaven.
57:47 But ultimately their probation closed and the angels know that
57:51 they are now in everlasting chains of darkness.
57:54 And the demons often said to Jesus, "We know who you are.
57:57 Have you come to torment us before the time?"
57:59 Meaning judge us.
58:01 So they know there--the devil knows he has a short time.
58:03 There's no turning back.
58:05 The fallen angels have no redeemable qualities left.
58:08 Friends, great questions.
58:09 And we hope we can have more great questions next week.
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58:16 and keep us on the air.
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