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Bad Example

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00:01 - The discovery of Auschwitz was like a bucket of cold water
00:03 in the face of Western civilization.
00:06 We suddenly realized,
00:07 hey, this isn't somebody else who did this.
00:10 This was a civilized industrial technological nation.
00:13 And yet they managed to do something so horrible
00:16 that two generations later,
00:17 we still haven't come to terms with this.
00:20 Today on Authentic I'm afraid
00:22 I'm gonna confirm your worst fears because
00:24 you and I had more to do
00:26 with what happened there than we might want to admit.
00:31 [upbeat music]
00:51 When the Nazis first said about the task
00:53 of trying to purify the bloodlines of Germany.
00:57 Nobody was talking about death camps, not in the beginning.
00:59 That was something that emerged later under
01:02 a program they called The Final Solution.
01:06 What they talked about in the beginning,
01:07 say around the year 1933 was trying to create a situation
01:12 where the Jewish population would suddenly feel unwelcome
01:15 and make their own decision to leave.
01:18 And the way they tried to make that happen
01:20 was by creating two classes of German citizens.
01:23 You had those with reliable German ancestry,
01:27 and then everybody else.
01:29 The way they were thinking was that
01:31 anybody could live in Germany,
01:33 but not everybody
01:35 could exercise the full rights of citizenship.
01:38 So what they did was passed something called
01:40 the Nuremberg Laws.
01:42 Where Jews and other groups they thought of as undesirable
01:45 were suddenly relegated to a second class status.
01:49 And while there were three things
01:51 these laws actually implemented,
01:52 there were two in particular designed to make
01:55 Jews feel unwelcome.
01:58 Number one, you had to be a member of the German people
02:01 to be a citizen of the Reich.
02:03 And number two, it suddenly became illegal
02:07 for Germans to marry members of other races.
02:10 Let me just put the wording of these laws on the screen
02:12 because they're so brief
02:14 we can pretty much quote them in full.
02:16 This comes from the second part of this new citizenship law.
02:19 It read "a Reich citizen is exclusively a national
02:23 "of German blood, or racially related blood,
02:26 "who demonstrates through his conduct
02:28 "that he is willing and suited to faithfully serve
02:30 "the German Volk and Reich."
02:33 Then you get this just a couple of sentences later.
02:36 It says "The Reich citizen is the sole bearer
02:39 "of full political rights,
02:41 "to be exercised according to the measure of the laws."
02:46 So now you suddenly had two classes of people
02:49 living in the German Republic.
02:50 You had full citizens who enjoyed all the rights
02:53 and privileges of the nation
02:54 and you had partial citizens who did not.
02:57 And it was all based race.
03:00 And as if that wasn't bad enough, they passed another law
03:04 in an effort to make sure the two groups
03:06 stayed away from each other.
03:07 Here's what that law said.
03:10 "Marriages between Jews and nationals of German blood
03:13 "or racially related blood are forbidden.
03:16 "If such marriages are nevertheless entered into
03:19 "they are null and void,
03:20 "even if they are concluded abroad
03:22 "in order to evade this law."
03:26 Of course, the whole thing is absolutely horrific.
03:29 Particularly when you read it from our side of history
03:32 because we know full well where that policy ended.
03:37 What they called the definitive solution
03:40 back in the very beginning
03:41 eventually became the final solution
03:43 where human beings
03:45 were actually being slaughtered wholesale.
03:48 It's completely mind-boggling that this actually happened
03:52 not at some point in the very distant past
03:55 but within the last 100 years.
04:00 But here's the part that most people don't remember
04:02 and this is a big deal.
04:04 This is something we should know, but we don't.
04:07 When Hitler was preaching about keeping Germany pure
04:10 he occasionally pointed to the United States of America
04:14 as an example of how this could be done.
04:17 Now in case you think I'm making this up
04:19 let me read you a key passage from "Mein Kampf"
04:21 and well you might want to buckle your seatbelt
04:23 because this is pretty bad.
04:25 Hitler is complaining
04:27 that foreigners are watering down the German population
04:30 and he insists that part of the problem
04:32 is that outsiders are given the same rights
04:35 as born and bred Germans.
04:37 So how could this be different he asks.
04:39 Well you create two classes of people.
04:42 Those who merely occupied German soil
04:44 but are disenfranchised.
04:46 And those who have all the rights
04:48 that belong to the German people.
04:50 So how could we do that he asks.
04:52 Here's what he said in 1927.
04:55 "There is today one state in which
04:58 "at least weak beginnings toward a better conception
05:01 "are noticeable,
05:02 "of course it's not our model German Republic
05:05 "but the American union
05:07 "in which an effort is made to consult reason
05:10 "at least partially
05:11 "by refusing immigration on principle
05:13 "to elements in poor health,
05:15 "by simply excluding certain races from naturalization.
05:19 "It professes in slow beginnings
05:21 "of view which is peculiar to the Volkish state concept."
05:26 Now admittedly, it would be a stretch
05:28 to suggest that the United States and Germany were
05:32 actually on the very same page at this point in history,
05:34 because in many fundamental ways, they really weren't.
05:39 But the same time, as painful as this is to admit
05:44 the ideas that eventually gave birth to Auschwitz
05:47 absolutely were in play during the latter part
05:50 of the 19th century
05:52 and all the way up to the 1920s right here in America.
05:56 There's just no way to simply excuse ourselves
05:59 from the table and say this never happened, because it did.
06:03 I mean, let's just begin with the immigration policies
06:06 that America passed.
06:07 Once they realized that the American dream
06:10 was appealing to people other than those
06:11 who had Northern European heritage.
06:15 Up to the mid 1800s most of the immigrants
06:18 who made their way to the new world came from England,
06:21 or Germany, or some other nation
06:23 whose culture and background was pretty much similar.
06:27 But then we suddenly had waves of Irish immigrants
06:30 in the wake of the great famine.
06:32 And there were settlers coming from Eastern
06:34 and Southern Europe, which meant that the melting pot
06:38 of America actually had to become a melting pot,
06:41 because a greater variety of cultures
06:43 was suddenly showing up.
06:45 And so while the American constitution
06:47 officially preached equality for all.
06:49 We had lawmakers creating legal workarounds,
06:53 designed to keep the new foreigners
06:55 from actually obtaining citizenship
06:57 with things like well literacy tests.
07:01 And of course after the civil war,
07:04 we had a number of Midwest States
07:06 suddenly passed laws designed to keep freed slaves
07:09 from moving and settling in their midst.
07:12 Then starting with the gold rush in California,
07:15 and the building of trans continental railroads.
07:18 Chinese immigration boomed to the point
07:20 where president Arthur signed the
07:22 Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882,
07:25 which forbid more Chinese immigration.
07:29 In other words America had race-based legislation
07:34 designed to create two tiers of citizenship here in America.
07:38 Add to that the way that the native population
07:42 was continually displaced and marginalized
07:44 by Westward Expansion.
07:46 And you suddenly had something that Hitler could point to
07:49 and say, wow America job well done.
07:53 In fact, he deliberately admired the way
07:56 that the native population of North America was treated.
07:59 And he insisted that all he was doing in Germany
08:03 was creating a Homeland for Germans through expansion.
08:07 The same way that America was creating a home
08:09 for it's new settlers in the West.
08:13 After the white man had shot down the millions of reds skins
08:16 to a few hundred thousand.
08:20 Then you have this
08:21 this again comes from "Mein Kampf"
08:24 "The racially pure and still unmixed German
08:27 "has risen to become master of the American continent,
08:31 "and he will remain the master,
08:32 "as long as he does not fall victim to racial pollution."
08:38 Look, I know this is kind of embarrassing.
08:41 But this really happened,
08:42 and we have no choice but to admit it.
08:46 And then if you can imagine this, it gets even worse.
08:50 So you're not gonna wanna go anywhere
08:51 I'll be right back after this to show you how that might be.
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09:26 - As we got to the turn of the 20th century
09:28 people's imaginations were abuzz
09:30 with the potential of human technology.
09:33 I mean, the advancements of the last few decades
09:36 had been astonishing.
09:37 We were automating work and inventing new machines
09:40 and traveling further and faster than we ever had before.
09:44 We were brimming with confidence
09:46 because the sky seemed like the limit.
09:49 And there was a new idea
09:50 that had shown up in the world of science.
09:54 The idea that human beings were the product of evolution.
09:57 Survival of the fittest is how Herbert Spencer put it
10:00 after reading Darwin's origin of species.
10:04 Somehow they said life on planet earth
10:05 was progressing upward
10:07 and getting better with each generation.
10:09 The process of evolution preferred positive genetic changes
10:13 the ones that favored survival,
10:15 and over time humans were going to get better,
10:18 and stronger, and smarter, and faster.
10:21 But what would happen they said
10:23 if we were to take our new found love for science
10:26 and actually help evolution along?
10:29 I mean, we were already breeding plants and animals
10:31 to weed out undesirable traits
10:34 and promote advantageous ones.
10:36 So what if we could do that with people?
10:41 Now, my guess is you didn't hear much about this in school.
10:44 But up through the 1920s,
10:47 the idea of scientifically breeding a better race of humans
10:51 was actually all the rage.
10:53 They called it Eugenics
10:54 which is a compound Greek word
10:56 that literally means well born.
10:59 And we made a science out of trying to guess
11:02 which people were the fittest of our species
11:04 so that we could breed them
11:06 and solve the problem of disease.
11:11 Now, I know that sounds like a dystopian nightmare,
11:13 the kind of thing that
11:14 makes for a horrific science fiction novel,
11:17 but this is absolutely true.
11:19 We openly talked about weeding out people
11:21 we thought were "feeble-minded"
11:24 the dregs of society that perpetually lived in poverty.
11:29 We actually had contests like the
11:31 Better Baby Contest at the 1911 Iowa State Fair,
11:35 and the Fitter Families for Future Firesides Contest
11:39 at the Kansas State Fair in the 1920s.
11:42 These were kind of like 4H competitions
11:46 but for human beings.
11:48 And we actually conducted studies
11:51 and developed algorithms
11:52 for breeding a superior race of people.
11:56 Man, I wish I was kidding, but this stuff is true.
12:00 So imagine how that appealed
12:03 to a rising group of totalitarians in Germany
12:06 who were poised to blame ethnic groups
12:09 for all their problems.
12:12 The tragic fact of history
12:14 is that American and German Eugenesis
12:17 were communicating regularly
12:19 in the first part of the 20th century.
12:21 They were sharing their discoveries
12:23 and sharing their enthusiasm for selective human breeding.
12:30 Now, of course it's possible to prove too much here
12:33 because there were also some key differences
12:35 between the Third Reich and the American Republic.
12:39 But in hindsight, it's also impossible to deny
12:43 that this country exerted an unmistakable influence
12:48 that helped the Nazis formulate their policies.
12:52 Now that doesn't mean that America is to blame
12:55 for the death camps, by any stretch of the imagination
12:58 because we did after all help put an end to those things.
13:02 But it does mean that misguided ideas
13:06 can act like viruses infecting the people around us
13:10 long before they ever reach their logical conclusion.
13:15 The American constitution was a historical miracle
13:19 a legal and political Marvel that guaranteed rights
13:22 and Liberty for absolutely everybody.
13:26 But when it came to living those principles, we blew it.
13:30 I mean for starters,
13:31 even though we knew that slavery was wrong
13:34 and a direct violation of the principles
13:36 we were enshrining in law
13:39 we refuse to deal with it.
13:41 They kicked the can down the road
13:42 until a bloody civil war became the answer.
13:45 It was Justice Thurgood Marshall who said the constitution
13:50 "was defective from the start, requiring several amendments,
13:53 "a civil war and momentous social transformation
13:56 "to attain its respect for the individual freedoms
14:00 "and human rights, that we hold as fundamental today."
14:05 In other words, we might've said it,
14:08 but we weren't living it.
14:10 Which brings me to another really painful topic.
14:13 And that's well, the history of my own Christian Church.
14:16 Here, we have a book
14:19 that exhibits the highest moral standards known to humanity.
14:23 We have the teachings of Jesus
14:24 which even the harshest skeptic
14:27 has to admit are cut above the moral teachings
14:30 of anybody else.
14:32 We have instructions on how to care for the poor
14:35 and the sick and the afflicted.
14:37 We are told to love others the way we love ourselves.
14:42 And yet what we have is a 2000 year record
14:45 of abysmal behavior on the part of the church.
14:50 The problem was succinctly summarized by Mahatma Gandhi
14:53 who was hurt by Christians who treated him badly
14:56 during his young years in South Africa.
15:00 He said this
15:01 "I like your Christ.
15:02 "I do not like your Christians.
15:04 "Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
15:08 Now I can respond to that thought in two ways.
15:12 I could try to argue that he's wrong.
15:14 That Christians are misunderstood.
15:16 That what he said was an unfair assessment.
15:20 But unfortunately I've read too much history to do that.
15:23 So I've got a different response as embarrassing as it is
15:27 what he says is absolutely true.
15:31 Over the last 2000 years
15:33 the Christian Church has been anything but Christlike.
15:37 And if you stick around, I'm gonna come back from the break
15:40 and I'll give you some specifics.
15:42 I'll just admit this stuff to you.
15:45 I'll be right back.
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16:17 - There's A humble group of Christians
16:18 living in the Northern reaches of Italy,
16:20 way up in the mountains.
16:22 And they've been there a really really long time.
16:25 They're known as the Waldenses.
16:27 and their origins are something of a mystery.
16:31 Now, if I had a little more time today
16:32 I'd tell you where I think they come from
16:35 but I've already done that in a little inexpensive book.
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16:46 In the middle ages though
16:47 the Waldenses were known for making copies of the Bible
16:51 and distributing them all over Western Europe.
16:53 The problem was that the official church of the day
16:56 had made that activity illegal.
16:59 Now I know it seems unbelievable
17:01 to us that practicing Christians could make Bibles illegal
17:04 but honestly, that's the way it was.
17:08 You see the church had been married to the state a long time
17:11 previously in the wake of the emperor Constantine,
17:15 and the church sincerely felt they had to reign in
17:17 any independent thinking in order to secure their grip
17:20 on all the European States.
17:22 So what the Waldensians were doing by copying the Bible
17:26 and handing it out was very risky
17:29 and they were forced to do it undercover.
17:32 So that they posed as traveling merchant
17:34 selling luxury items from the far East door to door,
17:37 things like silk and pearls.
17:40 And then they would find someone
17:42 they thought might be interested in the copy of the Bible
17:44 and they would risk their lives
17:46 to share the gospel with that person.
17:50 These people were so wildly successful in this mission
17:52 that before long Waldenses had so many converts
17:56 that their missionaries
17:57 could travel all the way from Cologne Germany in the North,
18:00 to Florence Italy in the South.
18:02 And they could stay in the house of a Waldensian convert
18:04 every single night.
18:06 Man, that is a distance of more than 700 miles.
18:09 And they did this all on foot.
18:13 Now that drove the official church crazy
18:17 because the Waldensians were also teaching things
18:19 that were well radically different
18:21 from the stuff people were hearing
18:22 from the mainstream pulpits of Europe
18:25 back in those days.
18:27 For example the Waldensians had the nerve to teach people
18:30 you could pray in a barn
18:32 just as well as you could pray in a church.
18:34 Now that didn't bode well
18:36 with a state church that had invested huge sums of money
18:39 to build elaborate cathedrals all across the continent.
18:44 The Waldenses also taught
18:45 that a number of official church teachings
18:48 well, couldn't be found in the Bible.
18:50 And they said that expensive pilgrimages
18:53 to visit so-called holy sites
18:55 didn't nothing for you except deplete your savings.
18:59 And they said the relics you saw
19:00 when you got to these places.
19:02 Well they're nothing bit of dead body and rotting flesh.
19:08 They were a simple people who built their doctrines
19:10 on the teachings of the Bible.
19:12 And that drove the official church nuts
19:16 to the point where systematic programs were launched
19:18 to wipe these people out of existence.
19:21 In 1184 at the Senate of Verona
19:23 the Waldensians were formerly ex-communicated.
19:26 In 1487 Innocent The eighth issued a [indistinct]
19:30 calling for their extermination
19:32 and the stories that followed after that.
19:35 Well, they're not for the faint of heart.
19:37 There was the Massacre of Mérindol in 1545
19:41 which completely eradicated a number of Waldensian villages
19:44 and put thousands of people to death.
19:47 There was another massacre in 1655
19:50 when the Duke of Savoy sent his forces out
19:52 to destroy these people.
19:54 Almost 2000 Waldensians were raped, tortured, mutilated
20:00 and finally murdered.
20:01 And it was all done in the name of Christ.
20:05 In 1488, so called Christian armies
20:07 herded Waldensi believers into a cave
20:10 and plugged the opening full of wood
20:13 and suffocated 3000 people to death in the smoke.
20:19 Again, this was all done by professing Christians
20:22 people who claimed they also lived by this book.
20:26 So the question that you and I have to ask is this
20:29 is the problem here with the founding document,
20:33 or is the problem with the people who ignore
20:35 the founding document.
20:36 When it comes to the United States of America
20:38 I've got to admit, I love this country.
20:41 And I waited a long time to become a citizen here.
20:44 I admire the principles of the American constitution.
20:48 I actually believe
20:49 they represent the pinnacle of achievement
20:51 when it comes to recognizing human rights and liberties.
20:55 And yet I'm painfully aware
20:57 of it how far short the practice of those principles
21:00 has been in real life.
21:03 Likewise, I'm a huge fan of this founding document,
21:06 the Bible because I have never found anything else
21:09 that comes close to the ideals presented in these pages.
21:14 But am I going to pretend that Christians have demonstrated
21:16 the character of Christ perfectly?
21:19 Not a chance.
21:20 And I'd have to admit that my own example has been.
21:25 Well, let's just say that I fall
21:26 a long way short of the glory of God.
21:30 If you wanna put modern Christianity
21:32 under a microscope listen,
21:34 you're going to find plenty that doesn't measure up
21:36 to the teachings of the Bible.
21:38 In a lot of ways
21:40 we've become a tragically materialistic church
21:42 that mirrors the culture
21:43 more than it challenges the culture.
21:46 We run our churches like corporations or worse yet,
21:49 like entertainment companies
21:51 that often seem to be more concerned about ratings
21:54 and popularity, than we are about the truth.
21:58 Now here's the really interesting part of all this.
22:01 It's not like the Bible
22:02 didn't anticipate what's happening right now.
22:05 And that's the part that critics don't understand.
22:07 Not only did the Bible set a different standard
22:09 for the followers of Christ.
22:11 It actually anticipated a moment when the church
22:13 would do anything but reveal the character
22:16 of Jesus to the world.
22:18 Just listen to this.
22:19 This comes from the teachings of Paul he writes,
22:23 "But know this, that in the last days
22:25 "perilous times will come.
22:27 "For men will be lovers of themselves,
22:28 "lovers of money,
22:30 "boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents,
22:33 "unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers,
22:37 "without self-control, brutal, despisers of good,
22:40 "traitors, headstrong, haughty,
22:42 "lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
22:45 "having a form of godliness but denying its power.
22:49 "and from such people turn away."
22:53 It's a problem that's as old as the Christian Church itself
22:56 a lot of the new Testament in fact,
22:58 was written by a traveling missionary
23:00 who was forced to write copious letters to churches
23:03 who were doing it wrong.
23:06 And some of the sins that Paul mentions
23:08 that were taking place in the church back then
23:11 they would make your hair stand on end.
23:15 So here's the appeal I guess I wanna make to you today.
23:19 And it really boils down to a couple of different things.
23:23 Number one, if you've avoided the church
23:26 because of the way that Christians behave.
23:29 Well, I don't blame you
23:30 but I would encourage you to take another look.
23:34 Not only are there plenty of Christians
23:36 who actually do to the best of their ability
23:39 try to emulate the example of Christ.
23:42 But the whole point of the faith
23:44 of this book is that human beings are tragically flawed.
23:48 And there is only one person who isn't,
23:51 one person who will never let you down.
23:54 And he's the subject of this book.
23:58 Listen, I know the church is full of hypocrites
24:01 and I'd be lying
24:02 if I ever tried to tell you that my example was perfect.
24:05 It's not, not even close.
24:08 But I'm gonna challenge you to have another look right here.
24:11 Because after all
24:14 we do have room for one more hypocrite in the church,
24:16 one more person who's gonna do this wrong.
24:21 Here's my second point.
24:22 And it's to people out there who profess to be Christians.
24:26 Adolf Hitler, and the Third Reich
24:28 were able to look at America and say, see,
24:31 the ideal Republic looks like this.
24:36 But what they were looking at was a gross distortion
24:38 of the nation's founding documents and principles.
24:41 And that distorted image helped give birth
24:44 to an absolute moral monster.
24:46 In fact, the very blight of the 20th century.
24:50 Now that's kind of how it works with the church.
24:53 We might think nobody out there is looking.
24:55 We might think nobody is paying attention
24:58 to the behavior of individual Christians
24:59 but let me assure you, they're watching.
25:02 I can't tell you how many times members of the community
25:04 have told me
25:05 about the stuff going on in the lives
25:07 of church members I know.
25:10 But they watch and it happens.
25:14 So here's what God has done with us.
25:18 He has taken an unimaginable risk by putting his name
25:22 on our lives.
25:23 He plans to have the world look at us
25:25 and see something different.
25:27 But when you and I behave like everybody else
25:30 or maybe even worse, people look at the church and they say
25:34 Oh, that's what God is like.
25:38 And unwittingly you and I give birth
25:40 to countless moral monsters.
25:44 I know I'm using extreme examples to make a point.
25:47 And they say that if you have to bring up the Nazis
25:50 to make your point,
25:51 you've probably already lost the argument
25:53 but this is what I'm gonna stand by.
25:56 We might not be able to earn our salvation
25:58 through our obedience.
26:00 That's clear in the Bible, but God absolutely expects us
26:03 to show the world that we know him well.
26:07 I mean, we put the name Christian on our buildings
26:13 which literally means one who is in Christ.
26:14 So like it or not, you and I are ambassadors of heaven.
26:17 People are going to look at us and say,
26:19 that's what God is like.
26:21 Fair or not people are going to look at you
26:24 when they're trying to figure out
26:26 if they should pay attention
26:27 to the words of this book, I'll be right back.
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27:02 - Look, I know you're not responsible for the atrocities
27:04 committed in the name of Christ.
27:06 But I'm still going to suggest that you join me
27:08 in apologizing for this anyway.
27:11 You'll notice when Daniel prays in Daniel chapter nine,
27:14 he uses the word we, we have sinned against you Lord.
27:20 Now he was not personally responsible for what happened
27:22 but he understood what was at stake.
27:24 And he owned the sins of the church
27:26 along with everybody else.
27:28 It is time for you and I to do the same
27:29 apologize for what happened, admit that we did this
27:33 and that it had nothing to do with the teachings of Christ.
27:36 And then we need to get back to the business
27:38 of showing the world what Jesus did teach.
27:42 You'll find in Revelation 14 God's idea for the last days.
27:45 It's a scene where God's people deliver the gospel
27:47 to the whole world and they have God's name
27:50 written in their foreheads.
27:52 It means that they're actually reflecting his character
27:55 and it means there's hope for the church to get it right.
27:59 You and I need to be among those people and get this right
28:04 before Jesus comes.
28:06 I'm Shawn Boonstra.
28:07 This has been Authentic.
28:10 [upbeat music]


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