Authentic

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00:01 - For a very long time, human beings have been trying
00:03 to figure out their nature of existence,
00:05 because we want to know exactly who or what we are.
00:09 Why are we here?
00:11 You see if we could just figure out
00:12 the nature of the universe, maybe it'll give some clue
00:16 as to who we are or what we're supposed to be.
00:19 And if it happened to be religiously inclined,
00:22 of course, you also have to factor in the existence of God.
00:26 That's today's episode of Authentic.
00:29 [soft music]
00:50 Human beings have been trying to boil down
00:52 the nature of our existence and the nature of the universe
00:55 for thousands of years.
00:57 And I find it curious that so many of the clay tablets
00:59 we dig out of the earth,
01:01 talk about questions regarding the meaning of life.
01:06 I mean, some of these tablets
01:07 they talk about things like census data of royal bookkeeping
01:11 or some Kings triumph in war,
01:14 but the one thing that keeps on popping up
01:16 over and over and over again,
01:19 is the question of meaning,
01:20 who in the world are we?
01:23 Why was I born into this universe?
01:26 Am I really just a biological machine?
01:29 Some kind of accident of Physics and Biology?
01:32 Or is the reason that you and I are here?
01:35 And is there anybody out there,
01:37 I mean, somewhere out there in the universe
01:38 who knows that we're here or for that matter,
01:41 cares that we're here?
01:44 And how do you know for sure that your existence
01:46 is even real?
01:47 How do I know that my daily experience
01:49 is not just a figment of my imagination?
01:52 An illusion created by the chemistry of my brain?
01:56 How do I know that all of this,
01:58 you and me right now, it's not just a dream?
02:03 Maybe things like love or passion or hate or inspiration
02:07 are nothing but an illusion.
02:09 I mean, how do I know,
02:10 that I'm not just a biological experiment
02:13 somewhere out there in the universe,
02:14 just a brain sitting on a tray
02:17 with a 15-year-old high school kid,
02:19 prodding it with a scalpel because I'm his science project
02:23 and he's accidentally creating every experience
02:26 I think I'm having.
02:28 Of course that's not the way they talked about it
02:31 in these ancient clay tablets,
02:33 like this one from the Ruins of Nineveh,
02:37 but the questions are exactly the same.
02:39 We've been struggling with the same things
02:42 ever since we learned the art of writing.
02:44 Our ancient ancestors seriously probed,
02:47 just about every corner of human experience,
02:49 looking for answers.
02:51 Last night, some of these tablets say, I had a crazy dream.
02:54 What did that mean?
02:55 And why is it that all life on this planet
02:58 seems to rely on the sun?
03:00 And what exactly would make my life meaningful and great?
03:04 I mean maybe if I go conquer all my neighboring countries
03:07 and make them worship me, then my life will mean something.
03:13 I mean, if we get right to the root of it,
03:15 everybody's been looking for the very same thing.
03:17 We're looking for the reason we're here.
03:20 That's the question that motivates almost everything we do,
03:25 because somehow we're not very happy
03:27 with the idea that we just happen to be here,
03:29 but it doesn't really mean anything.
03:32 And if you think about it,
03:34 the fact that we asked that question at all,
03:36 is really pretty significant.
03:38 Because if you were just a biological machine,
03:40 some random accident, a leftover from the Big Bang,
03:44 then why in the world would you have an impulse
03:46 to go out there looking for meaning?
03:48 I mean, think about this.
03:50 Does your laptop care about the meaning of its existence?
03:54 It does a lot of artificial thinking all day long.
03:57 It does calculations faster than your brain can.
04:00 It takes care of spreadsheets and communications,
04:03 and these days that computer can even run your house.
04:07 But you know that your laptop isn't sitting there
04:10 on the kitchen table wondering where it came from,
04:13 why it exists and what its purpose is.
04:16 Because that would be weird.
04:19 Consciousness and self-awareness, don't just happen.
04:24 And if your computer does appear to care,
04:27 I mean, if Siri or Alexa asks you
04:29 the occasional meaningful questions,
04:31 you would know immediately,
04:32 that somebody had programmed it to seem that way.
04:35 Because it doesn't happen all by itself.
04:39 So let's consider this possibility.
04:42 Let's consider the possibility
04:44 that somebody did put us here on purpose.
04:47 And that same somebody, programmed us
04:50 to ask these kinds of questions
04:52 because there's something we're supposed to discover,
04:56 something we're supposed to learn.
05:00 If you read the book of Ecclesiastes,
05:03 an ancient book of Jewish wisdom,
05:05 and found in the Old Testament,
05:08 you'll find this statement
05:09 that looks well, a little simplistic at first
05:11 but the longer you think about it,
05:14 the more profound it becomes.
05:16 And you find this statement on the heels of an ancient poem
05:19 that actually became a number one hit
05:21 for The Byrds back in 1965, you might remember it.
05:24 "To everything."
05:25 I won't sing,
05:26 "To everything,
05:27 "Turn, turn, turn
05:28 "There is a season,
05:29 "And a time to every purpose under heaven."
05:31 Yeah, that comes from Ecclesiastes.
05:33 They got it from chapter three.
05:35 And it only goes to prove,
05:36 that the questions that haunt the human race today
05:39 are the very same questions we were asking,
05:42 well, 3000 years ago.
05:45 Now you'll notice those ancient lyrics assume,
05:48 there's got to be a purpose for our existence.
05:51 So maybe let's just do a little bit of reading theater
05:54 for a couple of minutes.
05:56 And let me read you of this ancient poetry.
05:58 This is from Ecclesiastes chapter three,
06:01 beginning in verse one.
06:03 "To everything, there is a season,
06:05 "A time for every purpose under heaven
06:07 "A time to be born and a time to die,
06:10 "A time to plant and a time to pluck what is planted
06:13 "A time to kill and a time to heal
06:16 "A time to break down and a time to build up
06:19 "A time to weep and a time to laugh.
06:21 "A time to mourn and a time to dance
06:23 "A time to cast away stones and a time to gather stones
06:27 "A time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing
06:31 "A time to gain and a time to lose
06:33 "A time to keep and a time to throw away
06:36 "A time to tear and a time to sow
06:39 "A time to keep silence and a time to speak
06:42 "A time to love and a time to hate
06:44 "A time of war and a time of peace."
06:48 That has got to be one of the most foundational poems
06:51 in the history of human writing.
06:53 And when you reading this, it just kind of feels right.
06:57 So let me ask you why.
07:00 Why do we assume there's a purpose and a time for anything?
07:03 Why is it that we can't seem to let go of that idea?
07:08 You start to find the answer in the next few words
07:12 and this is the part of this ancient passage
07:14 that unfortunately never made it
07:16 to the top 10 charts back in 1965.
07:19 I'm going to continue in verse nine, and you never know.
07:22 Maybe we'll spend the rest of this show,
07:23 unpacking what we're about to read,
07:25 because, well, it's just that profound.
07:29 And I promise, this is gonna give you enough to think about
07:31 until the next time we meet.
07:33 So here we go, with what I think,
07:35 is the most important part of this passage.
07:38 And I want you to notice the assumptions
07:40 buried in this text.
07:41 Verse nine.
07:43 "What profit has the worker from that in which he labors?
07:47 "I have seen the God-given task
07:49 "with which the sons of men are to be occupied."
07:53 So there you have it again.
07:54 It's the biggest question in the world.
07:56 Every day you get out of bed and you go through the motions.
08:00 You go to work, you go to school,
08:01 you go out looking for a job, you plan a day of retirement.
08:05 But whatever you do, you feel driven to do something.
08:10 For some reason, you and I are painfully aware
08:12 of how short this life is.
08:15 In a way that dogs and cats probably aren't.
08:18 I mean, animals don't seem to struggle
08:21 with the idea of mortality,
08:22 but you and I live under the assumption
08:25 that time is a limited gift.
08:26 This is something you can't afford to waste.
08:30 And the older you get,
08:31 the more you realize that one single lifetime
08:34 is just a tiny blip on the radar of eternity.
08:37 A period of time so short that it almost seems well cruel.
08:44 We have to spend most of our lives just surviving,
08:47 which makes some people wonder
08:49 why we put in all this effort.
08:51 I mean, if life is just sleeping and eating,
08:54 and breathing and reproducing, what's the point?
08:58 Everything you create,
09:00 and every child you bring into this existence
09:02 is just gonna occupy a world
09:03 where you one day will no longer exist.
09:07 And for a lot of people, that seems kind of futile.
09:12 But then of course, you have to ask yourself
09:14 why this would even bother you,
09:16 because if you and I were just biological computers,
09:19 we would simply get to the end of our usefulness
09:21 and we would power down and never even think about.
09:25 But for some reason, all of this really bothers us.
09:28 We live, we suffer, we die.
09:30 And for some reason, all of that seems really, really wrong.
09:35 I mean, I can't even imagine how many billions of words
09:38 the human race has written on this very subject.
09:41 The idea that life seems short and cruel and pointless.
09:45 But at the same time we cling to life.
09:48 And it seems far too short.
09:51 Look, I've got to take a quick break
09:52 but I'll be right back after this.
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10:26 - There's just something about this existence
10:28 that doesn't make sense, not rationally.
10:31 And that really bothers us.
10:34 It's like this broken tooth
10:36 at the back of your mouth
10:37 and your tongue just can't leave it alone.
10:39 You have to keep going back and exploring the question
10:42 of our existence over and over.
10:45 It reminds me of a famous passage
10:47 from Thomas Hobbes "Leviathan".
10:49 And I don't know if you had to read this book in college
10:51 but I did.
10:52 And at one point he says
10:53 one of the most heartbreaking things in the world,
10:55 and I guess the reason it's heartbreaking
10:58 is because we know it's true.
11:00 And he speaking about living through war.
11:02 That awful moment when the human race
11:04 manages to strip all of human life of meaning.
11:07 Here's what he says,
11:08 "In such a condition" that's war,
11:10 "there is no place for industry
11:12 "because the fruit thereof is uncertain,
11:14 "and consequently no culture of the earth,
11:17 "no navigation or use of the commodities
11:19 "that may be imported by sea,
11:21 "no commodious building,
11:23 "no instruments of moving and removing such things
11:25 "as require much force,
11:27 "no knowledge of the face of the earth,
11:28 "no account of time, no arts, no letters, no society,
11:31 "and which is worst of all,
11:33 "continual fear and danger of violent death".
11:36 And here it comes.
11:37 Here's the troubling part,
11:38 "and the life of man solitary, poor, nasty,
11:43 "brutish, and short".
11:45 Now I don't happen to like that perspective,
11:47 but I have to admit there's some truth to this.
11:50 For most people life really can be lonely, nasty,
11:53 brutal and short.
11:54 And that bothers me, but why?
11:57 I mean, if the universe is just too thin clause,
12:00 survival of the fittest,
12:01 then what Thomas Hobbes is describing
12:03 is exactly the way things are supposed to be.
12:06 And it shouldn't bother me because that's just the nature
12:09 of an indifferent universe.
12:10 I mean, sure.
12:11 I want to avoid pain, everybody does.
12:14 Because it's well, unpleasant
12:16 but beyond the avoidance of pain why should I care?
12:20 And why do I seem to be programmed to resist my own death?
12:23 Why does something as hard as life
12:25 seem to have so much, well, value?
12:29 Now if you've never read the book of Ecclesiastes,
12:31 I'm going to encourage you, even if you're not religious
12:33 to give this book a chance,
12:35 because well there are some really profound thoughts in here
12:38 that have stood the test of time.
12:39 Listen to this starting with in verse 11.
12:41 "He," and that's God,
12:42 "has made everything beautiful in its time."
12:44 Now I think I might want to spend a whole program
12:47 one of these days talking about what beauty actually is,
12:50 but here comes the important part, listen.
12:54 "also he has put eternity in their hearts
12:55 "except that no one can find out the work that God does
12:58 "from beginning to end."
13:01 That is one of the most deceptively simple things
13:04 I've ever read because in seven words,
13:07 the author points to the one thing that keeps us
13:09 from believing that life has no meaning.
13:11 He says God has put eternity in our hearts.
13:18 You know, a few years ago, a good friend of mine
13:19 who I think I'll invite on the show at some point,
13:22 he suddenly called me and urged me to go to a website
13:24 because they had posted the details of a notable funeral
13:27 that had just taken place.
13:30 It was a Memorial service for Douglas Adams,
13:32 the author of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".
13:35 And of course Douglas Adams
13:37 was what we would call a nihilist,
13:39 a person who believes that our existence
13:41 doesn't mean anything.
13:43 And in his book, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
13:46 he imagines this race of aliens who destroy our planet
13:49 to make way for a galactic freeway,
13:51 like you and I are just an inconvenient ant pile
13:54 on a construction site.
13:56 So from the aliens perspective, the human race,
13:59 all of our achievements, all of our history,
14:02 all of our philosophy, it means nothing.
14:04 You could just wipe it out without any consequence.
14:07 It's kind of like what happens
14:09 in HG Wells War of the Worlds,
14:11 where to our horror, we discovered that
14:13 the Martians are here to harvest us for food.
14:17 It's horrific because somewhere deep in the human psyche,
14:20 we have this instinct to believe
14:22 that we are more important than that.
14:25 So in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"
14:28 the author pretends that our earth
14:30 was nothing but an experiment, a supercomputer
14:32 designed by another supercomputer,
14:34 and its purpose was to ponder the meaning of life.
14:37 And it was supposed to calculate the answer to and I quote,
14:41 "the ultimate question of life,
14:42 "the universe, and everything".
14:45 So this computer works on that problem
14:47 for seven and a half million years,
14:49 and then it finally spits out the answer.
14:52 The answer, 42.
14:55 Now of course, 42 doesn't mean anything.
14:59 And what Douglas Adams is trying to tell us is that
15:01 the search for meaning is pointless.
15:04 But then he himself dies like we all do.
15:06 And a number of very prominent people
15:08 mostly with the same mindset, they come to the funeral
15:11 and that's when it suddenly happens.
15:13 Richard Dawkins, one of the most notorious atheist
15:16 in the world gives a eulogy.
15:19 And I want you to listen to what he said
15:21 because it confirms what the book of Ecclesiastes says.
15:24 God has put eternity in our hearts.
15:27 He mentions an interview he once had with Douglas Adams
15:30 and he asks his friend the question,
15:32 what is it about science
15:34 that really gets your blood running?
15:36 And here's the answer that Douglas Adams gave.
15:39 I don't want you to miss this.
15:41 He said,
15:42 "The world is a thing of utter inordinate,
15:44 "complexity and richness and strangeness
15:47 "that is absolutely awesome.
15:49 "I mean, the idea that such complexity can arise
15:52 "not only out of such simplicity,
15:54 "but probably absolutely out of nothing
15:56 "is the most fabulous, extraordinary idea.
15:59 "And once you get some kind of inkling
16:01 "of how that might've happened, it's just wonderful.
16:04 "And the opportunity to spend 70 or 80 years of your life
16:09 "in such a universe is time well spent
16:12 "as far as I'm concerned."
16:15 Now, I don't know about you,
16:17 but that does not sound like a man who believes in nothing.
16:21 I mean, no matter how hard he fights it,
16:23 there is still this idea
16:24 that you and I are supposed to mean something,
16:26 that we're here for a reason.
16:28 And there is a right way and a wrong way
16:30 to spend this one short lifetime.
16:34 So that's what Douglas Adams said.
16:37 Now, let me read you what Richard Dawkins said
16:39 at the funeral, because sometimes the words we speak
16:41 and the thoughts we have, when we're by the grave
16:44 are some of the clearest thoughts we'll ever have.
16:47 Here's what he said.
16:49 "It has been our privilege to know a man
16:51 "whose capacity to make the best of a full lifespan
16:54 "was as great as was his charm and his humor
16:56 "and his sheer intelligence.
16:58 "If ever a man understood what a magnificent place
17:01 "the world is, it was Douglas.
17:02 "And if ever a man left at a better place for his existence,
17:05 "it was Douglas.
17:07 "It would have been nice if he'd given us
17:09 "the full 70 or 80 years.
17:11 "But by God, we got our money's worth from the 49".
17:16 Now don't miss this.
17:18 Richard Dawkins, a man who says there is no God,
17:20 no plan for the universe, just had the nerve to tell us
17:25 that Douglas Adams lived life well.
17:27 That he used his time wisely.
17:30 And then he says that the world was somehow cheated
17:33 when this man died at 49,
17:35 and he didn't get a normal lifespan.
17:38 In other words, he's saying what happened isn't fair.
17:43 So why would that matter?
17:45 I mean, if this is perfectly mechanical universe,
17:48 Douglas Adams was a weaker machine
17:50 who suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack and he was 49.
17:54 That's just a numerical fact.
17:55 And we shouldn't have any emotions about that.
17:58 But there's some kind of driving force
18:00 buried deep inside us that says,
18:02 no, there's something wrong with death.
18:05 This man should have lived longer.
18:07 And all of us lost something the day he died.
18:11 So why would we think like that?
18:15 Why would we think there was anything fair
18:17 or unfair about life?
18:19 And apparently on another occasion,
18:21 Richard Dawkins even talked about how exciting it was
18:24 that Douglas Adams was going to decompose.
18:26 And his body would become nutrients
18:28 to feed the plants and trees.
18:30 And so in that way, he kind of gets to keep on living.
18:34 Now, I didn't hear those words for myself.
18:35 So maybe he didn't actually say it, but I will say this,
18:40 when it comes to death, we all start to think that way.
18:43 Because every time somebody dies,
18:45 something inside of a screams, this is wrong.
18:48 It's not supposed to be like this.
18:51 So where in the world does that come from?
18:54 I'll pick up on that thought right after this break.
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20:01 - Well, we're back from the break,
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20:27 Backtrack to our subject.
20:29 About 3000 years ago, a wise Jewish King,
20:32 tried to tell us that God put eternity in our hearts.
20:37 There's a reason that life feels unjust.
20:40 There's a reason that it bothers us
20:41 when it feels meaningless,
20:43 because this is not the way it's supposed to be.
20:46 Life is not without meaning.
20:49 And it only seems that way,
20:50 because something has gone horribly wrong.
20:54 Listen, your logic might tell you
20:56 that death is inevitable.
20:57 It's just a part of the circle of life.
21:00 We all put in a few years, and then we buy the farm
21:03 just like every other living thing.
21:05 But every time you lose a person,
21:08 someone you love, to the ravages of death,
21:11 every fiber of your being begins to protest.
21:15 Think about how it feels to stand by the grave
21:18 of a friend or a family member.
21:21 Where did those emotions come from?
21:23 Why do you hate the idea of death so much?
21:26 I mean, logic told you the moment was going to come.
21:29 It was guaranteed.
21:31 So why in the world do we have so much trouble
21:33 accepting that?
21:35 And when it comes time to face your own death,
21:38 well, for some reason, that bothers you too.
21:41 Maybe even more than losing somebody else.
21:44 So what is the point of life?
21:47 Acquiring skills, improving your mind,
21:49 only to have it all disappear the moment you die.
21:52 There are billions of people who have already been buried
21:55 and everything they are, everything they believed,
21:58 everything they learned, it's just gone.
22:02 It seems wrong.
22:06 Then if you listen carefully to the narrative
22:08 of human existence that you find
22:09 in the average high school textbook,
22:12 it really starts to get depressing.
22:14 What we're told is that the universe
22:15 is some 14 billion years old,
22:18 and that human life conscious existence
22:21 only began to emerge in fairly recent history.
22:24 And if the universe plays out
22:26 the way that Math seems to suggest,
22:28 life is going to disappear in the relatively near future.
22:32 And so our whole existence, everything we are
22:35 is only going to be a very brief interlude
22:38 on a very long timeline,
22:41 in an otherwise empty and meaningless universe.
22:45 And that might be what the Math tells us .
22:48 But somewhere deep inside our hearts,
22:51 it's telling us that can't be the truth.
22:54 Look, I'm convinced there's a reason,
22:57 we all seem to be trying to figure out who we are
23:00 and what we're doing here.
23:01 And that's because somebody put you here on purpose
23:05 and he wants you to ask these kinds of questions.
23:08 There's a reason you want to know.
23:10 And there's a reason you were born with a, well,
23:13 fuzzy memory of a better time and a better place.
23:17 It's because you were born with eternity in your heart.
23:22 So what does that mean?
23:24 Well, if there is a purpose to life
23:26 and you are not some miserable accident,
23:28 and somebody out there thinks
23:29 that your existence means something.
23:32 Well, then maybe there really is such a thing
23:34 as an authentic human life.
23:36 A right way to do this.
23:39 And I know it's no longer popular to suggest
23:41 that there might be a right way and a wrong way to live.
23:44 What we're told is, well, we can just create our own reality
23:47 our own sets of truths, and then live by those truths
23:51 to the best of our ability.
23:53 In other words they're saying, the only right way to live,
23:56 is whatever you happen to think the right way to live is,
23:59 because there's no meaning out there apart from that.
24:03 But you know, as much as we try
24:05 to convince ourselves of that,
24:07 something tells us that can't be true.
24:10 Because we all recognize the wrong way to live,
24:13 whenever we see it.
24:14 I mean think about somebody who wastes
24:16 this one, precious lifetime.
24:18 They never go to work.
24:20 They never try to accomplish anything.
24:21 They never invest in themselves.
24:23 They just sit on the couch playing X-Box
24:25 and drinking beer day after day.
24:28 All of us look at that and we say what a waste,
24:32 because we realize what a precious gift life is.
24:35 And there's not enough of it,
24:36 to spend the bulk of it, doing nothing.
24:39 Everybody can see when somebody is doing it wrong.
24:42 And if that's true,
24:44 then maybe there is a way to do it right.
24:47 I'll come back right after this.
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25:22 - To everything, there is a season.
25:24 A time for every purpose under heaven.
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25:30 A time to plant and a time to pluck what is planted.
25:33 A time to kill and a time to heal.
25:36 A time to break down, and a time to build up.
25:39 A time to weep and a time to laugh.
25:42 There's a reason that this seems so very timeless.
25:45 It feels right.
25:47 There really does seem to be a time for things
25:49 and a time when it's not time for those things.
25:52 There's a rhythm to life,
25:55 an implied purpose.
25:58 You know, maybe something that seems like
26:01 a number one hit from 1965,
26:03 might be worth looking at one more time.
26:07 Because The Byrds were asking the same question
26:09 the human race has always been exploring.
26:12 To everything there is a season.
26:14 And if that's true,
26:16 I kind of want to know what my season is.
26:19 Why am I here?
26:20 And am I here right now for a particular moment
26:24 in this universe's history?
26:27 How long will my season in this place last?
26:30 And at the end of the road,
26:31 when I finally cross life's finish line,
26:34 will I know, will I have any way of knowing
26:37 that I did life the right way?
26:40 The way that I was expected to?
26:43 So here's what I want you to do.
26:45 I want you to think about that one thought
26:47 until the next time you and I get together and talk again.
26:51 Now, if you can't go that long,
26:53 just go to voiceofprophecy.com
26:55 and I've got a world of resources there for you.
26:58 We've got some of the best Bible study resources
27:01 in the entire world.
27:02 And if you click on the study tab, this is it,
27:05 voiceofprophecy.com, click on the study tab
27:08 and you'll find the resources I'm talking about,
27:10 and easily, there is enough there to keep you busy
27:14 until we can meet again right here next week.
27:17 What I really want you to do is to start digging
27:20 and then keep digging and digging and digging
27:25 until you and I find the answers
27:26 that give us some peace of mind.
27:28 I mean, think about it.
27:30 Are you really here by accident?
27:33 Is the universe an accident?
27:35 Does none of this mean anything?
27:37 That's what the Math might tell you.
27:39 That's what the scientists might tell you,
27:42 but something deep in your heart,
27:44 the eternity planted in your heart tells you
27:47 it's got to be more than that.
27:51 It can't just be an accident.
27:53 Ask yourself why does the question even bother you?
27:59 My name is Shawn Boonstra.
28:00 Thanks for joining me this week.
28:02 Until next time, this has been Authentic.
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