Celebrating Life in Recovery

Identity Epidemic

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Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), The Otto Family

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Program Code: CLR00039B


00:14 Welcome back, what I didn't tell you
00:15 earlier about this program is that the program that
00:19 we were working on that didn't work out was about
00:21 your identity in Christ.
00:23 And it didn't work out and were leaving the set and
00:26 walking out and Jonathan and his family comes in.
00:28 He starts talking just about what his passion is,
00:31 and his passions are your identity in Christ.
00:35 And I'm just thinking I'm just cracking up, I'm thinking
00:37 God how funny are you.
00:39 And as I'm even kind of enjoying the fact that this
00:45 message is unfolding in front of me, through this
00:48 incredibly nice looking guy with his funny accent and
00:53 He could say better than I was going to say it.
00:55 And that was a good point and all that kind of stuff.
00:57 I feel like the Holy Spirit just kind of birthed
00:59 this program, in my mind I'm like we have to
01:03 let you say that.
01:04 We have to get you up here, and one thing led to
01:07 another and we have the show.
01:08 So I wanted to say I was blessed, I was so blessed
01:11 by how you unfolded that for us.
01:13 Identity in Christ, I'm going to hunt for that,
01:15 until it kills me.
01:17 And the only way I'm going to find it is to turn around and
01:20 say God, who am I in you?
01:22 Who am I, so I'm going to introduce you to a
01:24 few other family members.
01:25 Melissa, I'm going to have you come up.
01:27 I know that you guys are in town doing some music stuff.
01:30 You are a musical family, and so tell us a little
01:34 bit about your family.
01:35 Are you always a Christian group, I mean,
01:38 and all that kind of stuff?
01:39 Yeah, basically our family, it's been a recent thing
01:44 that we been doing music together as a family.
01:47 We've all come from different places.
01:49 Different places in what way?
01:51 Well, basically God has corrected all of our pictures
01:55 of what He is really like, which has brought us all
01:57 together as a family.
01:59 What an incredible way to say that, because sometimes
02:01 our picture of God is so skewed that it's hard to stand
02:04 up and do any kind of ministry.
02:07 So your saying He came in and kind of worked with each of
02:09 you, and now you are doing a music ministry.
02:12 Your from Australia, what brought you to the states?
02:14 A company called Pan De Vida invited us to come out.
02:18 Panda Vida records David Asscherick's Commentaries and
02:21 basically we been touring around different churches
02:23 and universities for the last few weeks.
02:25 So when somebody says what do you present in song,
02:28 what kind of things do you present?
02:30 Well, the main thing is that God gives us all
02:36 different gifts, and they are to help each other
02:38 to see what God is really like.
02:40 So what has been most on my heart is to be able to,
02:47 well the thing that means most to me about God is that
02:53 in my very weakest times, sometimes when I feel the
02:58 most wretched, God helps me to see that He doesn't
03:02 distance Himself away from me at all.
03:04 In those times He is closer than close.
03:06 And if He wasn't closer than close I would have no
03:09 ability to get out of that situation.
03:11 Isn't that incredible, so what you are saying is when
03:13 you guys present in music is that each of you have
03:16 something on your heart, where Jonathan is talking
03:18 about, that my heart has an identity in Christ.
03:21 And you are saying, and I just want people to know
03:23 that God never leaves us.
03:25 That God never, even when I am feeling horrible,
03:27 God doesn't leave.
03:28 So, that's way cool.
03:29 And so each person, in your family
03:31 in your group has a testimony that they bring
03:34 in through the music.
03:35 Cause a true picture of God and His love for
03:39 us is what heals our minds.
03:40 The whole thing about what Jonathan was saying is that
03:42 truth sets you free.
03:43 So if you can put that in music it's helping us all to
03:48 be able to dwell on those truths.
03:50 How cool is that - I love that.
03:51 There is times that I am really stressing and I
03:54 can't even sing, but I'll will hear something that
03:56 somebody presents in music,
03:58 and I just let it wash through my head.
04:00 Even go through the chorus over and over until
04:03 I'm just settled in the fact that God loves me.
04:05 God bless you guys and what are doing.
04:06 Okay, I am going to bring Billy up.
04:08 You know, what is really fun to me with you Billy,
04:11 the fact that you are just way to hip.
04:15 No way! That's when I first saw you I thought this
04:18 guy is way to hip.
04:19 So what I am going - Jonathan says I'm a geek.
04:21 No way, no way but I want you to just tell us
04:25 who you are?
04:26 I know the Jonathan's passion is identity in Christ,
04:29 so who are you, where did you come from, because
04:33 you're so sold out to God, how did that happen?
04:36 And I'm like not going to back away a little, not much
04:39 because I think I want to talk to you.
04:40 Well I'm 20 years of age, and I just graduated from a school
04:44 called Arise, a wonderful evangelism
04:46 school in Michigan.
04:47 We've loved America, but I just came out of high school
04:52 2 years ago and I'm starting university, this year.
04:54 I really have a passion to reach young people.
04:57 Similar to Jonathan's messages, well, I sense some
05:02 of the struggles that they have of loneliness
05:03 and striving for acceptance.
05:05 And you were in, were you a rock 'n roll?
05:07 Yes - so you were from that background?
05:09 I will be sharing that story now of my time in rock 'n roll
05:12 industry and the effect of that had on my mind - Yes!
05:16 Okay, go ahead.
05:17 Thank you, well actually, I started my rock 'n roll
05:22 career when I was actually 14 years of age.
05:25 But this kind of came from a whole series of feeling
05:29 lonely and not accepted.
05:31 I knew I had such a struggle for significance.
05:33 When I came home from school I would put on this band,
05:37 I don't remember the name right now.
05:39 Starting in Newcastle, that was our hometown.
05:42 Although I have went to church all my life, churches
05:47 seem so irrelevant to me, because I'm feeling these
05:51 feelings of depression.
05:53 These anxieties I'm having as a little kid.
05:56 I'm told all this information from my church members
06:01 and my pastors, but it just so intellectual and so much
06:03 information I couldn't relate to that.
06:06 Because I'm insecure, I'm struggling for an identity.
06:08 But I saw that my favorite rock stars.
06:11 Particularly this man Daniel Jones, he wrote this amazing
06:14 songs to me at the time.
06:15 Songs with a title like Freak, I'm a freak of nature.
06:21 And I was just like I feel like a freak, I feel
06:23 like I'm out of place, I feel like nobody really
06:25 wants to be around me.
06:26 And there was a song called No Association,
06:29 leave me alone I want to live.
06:31 And so I was sitting alone in my room, weeping over
06:34 a girl I just broke up with, it really kind of sunk
06:37 to my heart, it was true music to my ears.
06:39 But it actually was when my brother was in high school,
06:42 there was a period of time when he was searching,
06:45 all that and he was searching out popularity,
06:49 he was going to the parties.
06:50 But eventually, he had been swept into the rock music
06:54 industry after he joined a band called
06:57 The Ones with Tadpoles.
06:58 The Ones with Tadpoles were up-and-coming punk band.
07:01 Jonathan was just a normal kind of guy, but now he
07:05 was actually this rock star, the lead guitarist
07:09 of this pop band.
07:10 Of course, I'm pretty close to my brother,
07:13 we're from a close knit family.
07:15 If I have an older brother, I look up to him.
07:19 I look at what he does and want to be like him.
07:22 Because he's my hero, and I am this little insecure kid.
07:26 My brother now is parading up on stage and he has a whole,
07:30 whole school flocking after him.
07:32 He has girls that are running after him,
07:33 and I want that.
07:35 I want that kind of security that he has in popularity.
07:37 I want that kind of significance.
07:40 So as a little 13 year old I'm coming to my big brother
07:44 said hey Jonathan you know
07:45 I'm a little bass player and I'm really good at playing,
07:49 and I could really be in your band.
07:50 And then he comes over with those big words that say,
07:53 Billy your too young, I already have a bass player.
07:58 And of course those words just ring in my mind,
08:00 and I'm thinking to myself, oh man, he just shot
08:03 me down, my dreams have been shattered.
08:06 I'm kind of just scratching my head at this moment
08:10 time, I am in a really bad social situation.
08:14 Where I have gotten myself into trouble, because I've
08:18 claimed that my brother is so big and popular.
08:20 I've tried to break the whole social scene, but within
08:27 this kind of period of time in my life,
08:29 I was with friends, people that were older than me.
08:31 These friends or people were 16 and 17,
08:33 and I myself was 13 at the time.
08:35 I remember that I would go to the supermarket with
08:38 my friends, and they would say hey Billy see that
08:41 tower of boxes go and run into it.
08:44 Knock them down, and I would go and do it.
08:46 Because I would go to any distance, I'd go to any length
08:50 to seek that value from my friends.
08:53 Because I didn't find any value from any higher power
08:56 from my parents.
08:57 This is the way out for me.
08:59 So I would do anything this is the length that
09:01 I would go to.
09:03 But then a couple months later, somehow, I received this
09:06 call from my sister saying that there is a band that
09:08 wants me to play for them.
09:09 Now this band is 17, they have band members that
09:13 are 17 and 18 and 19.
09:15 And I'm still 14 at the time.
09:17 But they say Billy we want you to come play for our
09:20 band you do have some skills, you got the look.
09:22 What started out as just playing a couple of different
09:25 events locally turned into signing a record deal.
09:27 And it turned into doing photo shoots.
09:31 Then it turned around to flying around and playing.
09:34 and so I finally have stars in my eyes - like yes!
09:38 I have victory, I have something.
09:40 People want me, people want to be associated with me now.
09:43 I'm actually, people come over and now I'm like
09:46 with Billy Otto now.
09:47 I'm his friend, so I'm cool too.
09:49 Suddenly I'm playing in front of hundreds,
09:51 maybe thousands of people.
09:53 It's a different kind of the ecstatic feeling that you
09:56 get when you're playing this riff, this powerful riff.
10:00 There is this kind of the emotion in the air,
10:02 there's all these people with their hands up.
10:04 It's almost like you're being in a sense, worshiped or adored.
10:08 And coming from this insecure teenage stage, I'm just like
10:13 man, I've got something.
10:15 And the girls are looking at me as well,
10:19 it's like man I'm wanted.
10:21 I'd get off stage and suddenly,
10:23 I would feel empty again.
10:25 I'd come home from touring for maybe 3 weeks,
10:27 or 2 weeks even.
10:29 I just come home to my little home town, in a place
10:31 called Valentine with my family and I was just Billy
10:35 again from a simple street.
10:37 So I knew my value system of being in this band was not
10:42 consistent, because at any stage my band could break up.
10:45 Like my lead singer was always thinking maybe I don't want to
10:49 do this anymore, and my guitarist was thinking of going
10:51 off into his own band thing.
10:52 But at the same time my brother is having this
10:56 experience where he is seeing that things aren't
10:59 right in my family.
11:00 My family is dabbling in spiritualism.
11:02 Suddenly, these different events that are going on,
11:07 where there's happening to my sisters, there's things
11:10 happening to me when I am sleeping.
11:11 I'm being almost oppressed by something kind of spooky.
11:16 But my brother is going okay, I'm still a punk
11:20 rocker, but I care for my family, I have a conscious.
11:22 So my brother starts to pick up the Bible somehow,
11:27 the Holy Spirit just guides him.
11:29 And he begins to see that there's entity to my family
11:34 situation and although he is just trying to study to help
11:40 out my family, I'm beginning to see there's a countenance
11:42 change of his face.
11:43 There is a peace that he begins to carry, there is
11:46 a completeness that he has and I want.
11:49 And the Lord started bringing this change through his
11:52 life, and it was so attractive yet, because I'm still
11:56 in the punk rock scene.
11:57 I'm already comparing myself to my brother because my
12:00 brother is in the same scene as me.
12:02 I spent weeks and months and years just trying to be
12:06 better than my brother.
12:07 Trying to gain more of my father's favor.
12:10 And trying to be more popular than my brother.
12:12 But right now I can just see he is separate from the scene,
12:17 the Lord is changing his heart.
12:19 He starts to just bring these words from the Bible
12:23 about my Fathers in heaven love, and it leads up
12:28 to an event in my life.
12:29 I'm having this massive birthday party, and there's
12:33 hundreds of my friends bands there,
12:35 oh hundreds of my friends there.
12:37 My bands they are there, my favorite punk band that
12:39 my friends are in.
12:40 There are so many people that are just there for me,
12:46 but I myself feel so out of place.
12:48 I feel alone, like all these people are dressing like
12:52 me and wanting to be like me.
12:54 And they were saying Billy love you so much man.
12:56 But I just feel alone, I feel like I'm the only person
13:00 there with these struggles.
13:01 Because I think to myself man I have everything, I have
13:05 this band that I'm playing in.
13:07 I have all these friends that love me and I'm now a
13:11 fashion model as well.
13:12 I had his hair cut with this bang that comes over my eyes,
13:17 and I'm wearing these girls pants, and I think man
13:19 and I am just in this place, where I have everything.
13:23 But really I just feel lonely again, I feel empty,
13:26 I feel dissatisfied.
13:28 Still church to me at the time felt so irrelevant but
13:34 I knew that there was an internal craving that I had
13:37 that nothing could satisfy.
13:39 From this experience of my birthday party, there were
13:46 something that happened that triggered a thought my head
13:47 that said Billy, you aren't even being yourself.
13:49 Who are you?.
13:51 I had this vision of mind, I was looking into a
13:53 mirror, I had went into the bathroom, I just thought
13:55 I'd don't have an identity.
13:57 I'm just trying to be something I'm not.
13:59 I threw off a piece of my clothing, and I went home.
14:04 I kept on smiling to all friends, and they all thought
14:07 I was having a great time.
14:08 Although some of my friends would say to me,
14:09 Billy you don't look happy, what's wrong?
14:11 But through a series of months, the Lord started to
14:15 reveal Himself to me through nature.
14:17 Through my family, my family and I went to a family vacation
14:21 trip in the Great Barrier Reef, a beautiful
14:23 place we went Sunday's.
14:25 I began to learn about the personality of God.
14:28 The character of God is a close Father, not a
14:31 faraway arbitrary God that was out to criticize me,
14:35 nor look down upon me, about my difference, my God,
14:43 I began to see that my Father in heaven didn't
14:46 look down to me as a scattered kid who was trying
14:50 to rebel from Him, but as a kid that was longing for identity.
14:54 I began to notice that Christ was someone
14:59 who actually humbled Himself.
15:01 There was a particular passage in Philippians 2:5,
15:04 that said: "let this mind be in you and which was also
15:06 in Christ Jesus, who being in the very form of God did not
15:11 consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made
15:13 himself of no reputation coming in the likeness of men. "
15:16 Just the humility of God just really blew me away.
15:20 Like I thought that God was so big and so arbitrary.
15:23 But God who actually gave everything, for a parent to
15:27 give His Son who is the world to Him.
15:29 I began to see that my Father in heaven actually gave
15:32 all of heaven to win me back.
15:36 And I knew there was a new identity that I was striving for
15:39 and I responded to a speaker, and this moment in Sydney
15:44 by a man called David Asscherick.
15:46 He's a good friend of mine now.
15:47 And all these thoughts, his testimony resonated with mine,
15:52 and the Lord was saying to me Billy, I love you this much
15:57 why are you so running from me?
15:59 And I was struggling with the Lord at that moment,
16:02 just thinking Lord, this is all I have,
16:04 this band is everything to me.
16:06 This popularity this scene, I can't leave it.
16:10 This is who I am, I think, but I don't know what I'm thinking.
16:13 But the Lord said Billy, I want to set you free, just let Me.
16:19 So I said, Lord, please change my heart, I hate myself,
16:23 hate feeling this way, I'm so depressed, I'm so selfish,
16:27 I'm so vague.
16:28 I got home from this conference, and my band member
16:33 said to me, he rang me up a couple hours after I had
16:36 just gotten home in my hometown, he said Billy I want to
16:41 quit the band, I can't play in this anymore.
16:43 And I was kind of like man, and I was trying to pray
16:46 and bring this to my band members.
16:49 I was like man, these are my best friends, what am I going
16:51 to say to them, I want to leave this band, I can't play in it,
16:53 but they are going to disown me.
16:55 But here my guitarist comes after me and says
16:58 Billy, I can't play in this scene anymore.
17:00 I started doing cartwheels.
17:03 I felt suddenly that I was just released.
17:06 And for that one moment I knew I was secure in my
17:11 Heavenly Father's love.
17:13 You know, I've got to say something because
17:15 I think it's interesting.
17:16 Because you are literally going to have to walk
17:18 away from everything.
17:20 You are literally saying okay, now who am I?
17:22 And was that a tough time to say that I am not this
17:25 and I know I'm not this, God revealed to me who I am.
17:29 But how do I stand in that, because I don't know
17:31 how to stand in that.
17:32 And it's hard to because all my friends were from
17:35 this particular scene.
17:36 I had found so much security in them.
17:38 But as the Lord starts to re-create your heart,
17:41 He begins to change the things you once loved,
17:43 you begin to hate.
17:44 And the things you once loved the things you once hated,
17:49 you begin to love.
17:50 I began to look at my friends differently.
17:53 I began to see that I was valued as a son of God.
17:56 I didn't need to be involved in that scene anymore.
17:57 What is really interesting to me when you talk about
18:00 that is that I and I work with a lot of people coming
18:02 from that backgrounds that are so intense like you said
18:05 into punk rock, alternative rock, all that kind of stuff.
18:08 And as they come into their Christianity I watch
18:10 God with all this kind of twistedness in their mind,
18:13 I watch God slowly just untwist them.
18:15 And set them free and that un-twisting.
18:18 And it's weird to watch that first few months of
18:22 standing there saying but, but, but.
18:24 It's almost like I don't know-how to stand yet,
18:27 and God says trust Me here, trust Me right here.
18:30 Yeah - how cool is that!
18:31 So now how did you get from that point to where you
18:36 guys are doing a ministry as a family together?
18:38 Well from that experience the Lord just started
18:40 to unite our family.
18:42 Suddenly, my sisters and I, with my brother,
18:45 even my parents.
18:46 My mom came from an Islamic background, but she
18:49 was baptized when she was young, but she fell in
18:52 love with the Lord again and suddenly there was
18:53 revival in the home.
18:54 And even people from our street begin
18:57 to see a change, people from the church we were
18:59 associated with began to see a change.
19:01 My friends began to see change as well, but from that
19:06 moment on this peace was in our hearts.
19:09 And although I had done my own thing as a
19:12 punk rock kid, I wanted to go out and tour my
19:14 own self around the country.
19:16 But now, I felt the desire to bring back the family
19:18 together to start to do music again together.
19:21 So we began to listen to some of my sister songs.
19:25 And she has an incredible voice.
19:28 She has an incredible gift - and she writes.
19:30 Yes, all that some of it is original music, and she
19:33 writes from her devotional thoughts.
19:34 So could you imagine, and I just have to say imagine
19:37 this that all the sudden God is watching you guys grow,
19:41 knowing the giftings you have, but then everybody's
19:43 going in the wrong direction.
19:46 I think all of heaven is saying wait, wait, wait.
19:48 You guys just hang in there, knowing He wants to
19:51 stand you up in ministry.
19:53 You're playing punk, and your brothers to this rock
19:56 stuff, and I just think all of heaven just must've
19:59 been so thrilled as you came back to the table and
20:03 started writing for Him.
20:05 Now that it's only been a month and a half since
20:08 we started this again.
20:09 This tour has been such a blessing, like I've never
20:12 worked with my family before.
20:13 They recorded most of the albums without me,
20:17 because I was away doing ministry.
20:19 But it's such a privilege, because I always hear lots of
20:22 testimonies of a family member that might come out
20:25 and say, I've come out of this scene and the Lord has blessed,
20:28 but that's my whole family.
20:29 What's funny to me is like when you said it's only
20:32 been a month or so, is that God must be moving you guys
20:37 pretty fast because you walked in to a studio and they
20:39 say, excuse me, how about getting up here and talk.
20:43 He's moving you guys pretty fast.
20:46 To speak your mind as far as who God is.
20:49 And who you are in Christ.
20:51 And I can see why He does that, because I go to schools
20:54 all over the place, colleges, academies, I do weeks of prayers
20:58 and I'm always doing this kind of stuff.
20:59 What is really interesting to me is that most of time when
21:03 I'm at academies, high schools, and colleges
21:05 I talk to people that are wanting to kill themselves
21:07 and they are depressed, they've got porn addictions,
21:10 they've got all this struggle,
21:12 that it is a time to come up and just say who we are in
21:15 Christ, and how important that is.
21:17 And so I can see why He needs to stand you guys up.
21:20 Cause know I'm old, I could say the same thing.
21:23 I know, but I could say the same thing that you say,
21:25 and yet a group of high school folks are going to hear
21:28 it differently from you.
21:29 Right - they're going to hear it differently.
21:31 So to me, I almost want to look at you and say how cool
21:36 is it that God is raising up people that actually can
21:39 speak to this generation.
21:40 It's awesome, it's awesome.
21:42 I want to introduce Gaea now.
21:44 And Gaea what's really cool, you can go ahead
21:47 and have a seat.
21:48 What is really cool about meeting everybody is
21:51 you are not a family member.
21:53 So what brought you into the group and
21:54 where did you guys meet?
21:55 About two years ago as we met at a
21:58 youth conference in Australia.
22:00 Yeah, we all met and just clicked.
22:03 When they talk about their history of being like in
22:06 rock bands, and not in church and all that kind of
22:09 stuff, was that your history to or were you?
22:11 Very different, I was brought up pretty much from
22:15 9 years old I started going to church with my mom.
22:18 She was brought up in a Pentecostal church, and just
22:21 loving truth at this point in time.
22:24 I was coming to church with her, but it was kind of,
22:27 I guess the whole thing, I went because my mom went.
22:29 So at this point in time I meet these guys.
22:31 I guess I had a lot of head knowledge,
22:35 but I had never experienced God.
22:37 I was crying out to experience Him.
22:39 Isn't it different when you look at somebody and you
22:42 know they're in a relationship?
22:44 They are in a relationship with God, they know God.
22:47 This is not theoretical to them, not that they memorize
22:50 the Scriptures, that they love this guy.
22:52 And your heart just says I want that.
22:54 Definitely - I want that - definitely.
22:56 So, you stepped into a relationship with them,
23:00 with God in a more real sense about the same time.
23:03 Yeah, definitely - and you are a vocalist - yeah.
23:06 You know I would like you to tell me is as you stepped into
23:09 a relationship with God, as God shows Himself more real
23:12 and you connecting in such a real way with Him,
23:14 what was that like?
23:15 The reason I'm asking you is not because I want you to
23:17 tell me what all that was like because I know.
23:19 I know I love God.
23:20 But somebody listening that doesn't know that, that has
23:24 just gone to church and all that kind of stuff.
23:26 What would you tell them about how different it is?
23:28 I liked before when you sharing with us about your
23:32 experience, your background.
23:33 I can relate to a lot of that having a sense of I'm
23:36 worth nothing to God, but then we get told,
23:40 He loves us, He loves us.
23:42 So we think that must just be a love because
23:44 He has to love us.
23:45 When you start realizing that He chooses to love you,
23:49 if He looks at you in is amazed by you.
23:51 Like He adores you, it's like WHAT!
23:54 No way, and then if I don't believe that
23:57 I'm means I'm saying He is a liar.
23:58 God doesn't lie and that means
24:00 I'm worth that much to Him?
24:02 So when you realize that, like all of your experience
24:06 of head knowledge of trying to flex your muscles to try
24:09 to do what is right, what is expected of you, like.
24:11 Trying to make Him proud of you, He's like
24:13 I'm so am proud of you.
24:14 And people around you even trying to please them by
24:17 the way you act, like that just fades and the
24:20 Commandments in all of these kind of things that
24:22 were like painful, is just a joy.
24:25 Like it is a joy to want to respect other people and
24:28 to love them and to show them how much
24:30 they are worth as well.
24:31 Instead of being sad or down all the time and making
24:34 other people feel like that.
24:35 How incredible is that!
24:37 You know I love when someone decides to
24:41 unfold for us, because a lot of times we'll just say
24:44 I met God and became more real and go on.
24:46 I'm thinking wait, wait, wait.
24:47 Backup because when God becomes more real, all that joy
24:51 comes, all the sudden I look at the word of God in its
24:53 not just this kind of cold thing that I'm reading.
24:57 It's alive, and God is speaking to me through it and I walk
25:00 outside and He shows me something, and
25:02 I thinking did You show me that?
25:03 He's like yeah, and I'm thinking,
25:05 shut up how cool is that!
25:07 And knowing that I had it come out of that just that
25:09 minute for God to be that real and show me that,
25:11 and Him just waiting for me to open the door.
25:14 I'm thinking, I don't take we have a clue of how
25:17 much God loves us and how He wants to develop our
25:21 giftings and ministry in step us out and fill us
25:25 up with a passion.
25:26 I just so love meeting you guys.
25:29 You guys are amazing.
25:30 We have one more person Sarah, I want you come up.
25:34 We don't have a lot of time, but I want to find out,
25:36 cause you know I'm hearing everybody's story, and I
25:40 can't wait to hear about you.
25:41 So, you are the youngest, tell me a little
25:44 bit about you.
25:45 Were you in a rock band, did you come
25:47 from the same background?
25:48 I was never in a rock band, but I think the identity
25:54 struggle that we all have is all is manifested in
25:58 some shape or form.
26:00 God has really blessed our family and brought
26:06 us into such truth.
26:08 So were you as the stuff started happening, you saw
26:12 this happen with your brothers saw that all of a
26:14 sudden come into the family.
26:16 Is it different be at your house now than it was before?
26:18 Yeah, definitely. I love my family so much.
26:21 It's incredible, and people see our concerts and look at us and
26:26 say you're a family that love each other so much your perfect.
26:30 We are like no where not the bunch, the Brady Bunch.
26:34 We are not perfect, but things have not
26:39 always been like this.
26:40 Don't people just assume that you've always been this
26:43 way, but you've always had God in your life, you've
26:45 always been this close, and they make that assumption
26:48 I'm sure when they see you.
26:49 Yeah, like Melissa for example, I used to be the
26:55 brat in the family and I hope I'm not anymore.
26:57 Like she'd always say, Sarah you brat!
27:00 Like me and Billy would have identity struggles being
27:04 the closest in age, competing with one another,
27:08 but God has brought us into such a loving unity.
27:12 As we been studying the word and learning more about
27:16 His character by learning about Him by
27:19 beholding Him, we have become changed.
27:22 He's changed our family.
27:23 You know it's incredible when you say that, is that all
27:26 those kind of things that we expect as
27:27 normal family interaction.
27:29 With God, it is not normal, do you know what,
27:32 I mean it's not normal.
27:33 And so is those change.
27:35 I bet you guys are blessed.
27:36 I'm blessed by getting to know you guys
27:38 I'm blessed that you are on the set.
27:40 I can't wait to see you guys in concert tomorrow
27:42 and I know, somebody said you have a CD and
27:45 I get to have one.
27:46 Yes, you can have one - Woo Hoo!
27:48 Okay, you know what we are going ahead and break right now.
27:52 And I want to break, and the close we are coming back
27:54 to is going to be a little bit longer, because I want
27:57 to bring Jonathan back and ask him a few things.
28:00 So we are going to break right now, so stay with us!


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