Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), The Otto Family
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00039B
00:14 Welcome back, what I didn't tell you
00:15 earlier about this program is that the program that 00:19 we were working on that didn't work out was about 00:21 your identity in Christ. 00:23 And it didn't work out and were leaving the set and 00:26 walking out and Jonathan and his family comes in. 00:28 He starts talking just about what his passion is, 00:31 and his passions are your identity in Christ. 00:35 And I'm just thinking I'm just cracking up, I'm thinking 00:37 God how funny are you. 00:39 And as I'm even kind of enjoying the fact that this 00:45 message is unfolding in front of me, through this 00:48 incredibly nice looking guy with his funny accent and 00:53 He could say better than I was going to say it. 00:55 And that was a good point and all that kind of stuff. 00:57 I feel like the Holy Spirit just kind of birthed 00:59 this program, in my mind I'm like we have to 01:03 let you say that. 01:04 We have to get you up here, and one thing led to 01:07 another and we have the show. 01:08 So I wanted to say I was blessed, I was so blessed 01:11 by how you unfolded that for us. 01:13 Identity in Christ, I'm going to hunt for that, 01:15 until it kills me. 01:17 And the only way I'm going to find it is to turn around and 01:20 say God, who am I in you? 01:22 Who am I, so I'm going to introduce you to a 01:24 few other family members. 01:25 Melissa, I'm going to have you come up. 01:27 I know that you guys are in town doing some music stuff. 01:30 You are a musical family, and so tell us a little 01:34 bit about your family. 01:35 Are you always a Christian group, I mean, 01:38 and all that kind of stuff? 01:39 Yeah, basically our family, it's been a recent thing 01:44 that we been doing music together as a family. 01:47 We've all come from different places. 01:49 Different places in what way? 01:51 Well, basically God has corrected all of our pictures 01:55 of what He is really like, which has brought us all 01:57 together as a family. 01:59 What an incredible way to say that, because sometimes 02:01 our picture of God is so skewed that it's hard to stand 02:04 up and do any kind of ministry. 02:07 So your saying He came in and kind of worked with each of 02:09 you, and now you are doing a music ministry. 02:12 Your from Australia, what brought you to the states? 02:14 A company called Pan De Vida invited us to come out. 02:18 Panda Vida records David Asscherick's Commentaries and 02:21 basically we been touring around different churches 02:23 and universities for the last few weeks. 02:25 So when somebody says what do you present in song, 02:28 what kind of things do you present? 02:30 Well, the main thing is that God gives us all 02:36 different gifts, and they are to help each other 02:38 to see what God is really like. 02:40 So what has been most on my heart is to be able to, 02:47 well the thing that means most to me about God is that 02:53 in my very weakest times, sometimes when I feel the 02:58 most wretched, God helps me to see that He doesn't 03:02 distance Himself away from me at all. 03:04 In those times He is closer than close. 03:06 And if He wasn't closer than close I would have no 03:09 ability to get out of that situation. 03:11 Isn't that incredible, so what you are saying is when 03:13 you guys present in music is that each of you have 03:16 something on your heart, where Jonathan is talking 03:18 about, that my heart has an identity in Christ. 03:21 And you are saying, and I just want people to know 03:23 that God never leaves us. 03:25 That God never, even when I am feeling horrible, 03:27 God doesn't leave. 03:28 So, that's way cool. 03:29 And so each person, in your family 03:31 in your group has a testimony that they bring 03:34 in through the music. 03:35 Cause a true picture of God and His love for 03:39 us is what heals our minds. 03:40 The whole thing about what Jonathan was saying is that 03:42 truth sets you free. 03:43 So if you can put that in music it's helping us all to 03:48 be able to dwell on those truths. 03:50 How cool is that - I love that. 03:51 There is times that I am really stressing and I 03:54 can't even sing, but I'll will hear something that 03:56 somebody presents in music, 03:58 and I just let it wash through my head. 04:00 Even go through the chorus over and over until 04:03 I'm just settled in the fact that God loves me. 04:05 God bless you guys and what are doing. 04:06 Okay, I am going to bring Billy up. 04:08 You know, what is really fun to me with you Billy, 04:11 the fact that you are just way to hip. 04:15 No way! That's when I first saw you I thought this 04:18 guy is way to hip. 04:19 So what I am going - Jonathan says I'm a geek. 04:21 No way, no way but I want you to just tell us 04:25 who you are? 04:26 I know the Jonathan's passion is identity in Christ, 04:29 so who are you, where did you come from, because 04:33 you're so sold out to God, how did that happen? 04:36 And I'm like not going to back away a little, not much 04:39 because I think I want to talk to you. 04:40 Well I'm 20 years of age, and I just graduated from a school 04:44 called Arise, a wonderful evangelism 04:46 school in Michigan. 04:47 We've loved America, but I just came out of high school 04:52 2 years ago and I'm starting university, this year. 04:54 I really have a passion to reach young people. 04:57 Similar to Jonathan's messages, well, I sense some 05:02 of the struggles that they have of loneliness 05:03 and striving for acceptance. 05:05 And you were in, were you a rock 'n roll? 05:07 Yes - so you were from that background? 05:09 I will be sharing that story now of my time in rock 'n roll 05:12 industry and the effect of that had on my mind - Yes! 05:16 Okay, go ahead. 05:17 Thank you, well actually, I started my rock 'n roll 05:22 career when I was actually 14 years of age. 05:25 But this kind of came from a whole series of feeling 05:29 lonely and not accepted. 05:31 I knew I had such a struggle for significance. 05:33 When I came home from school I would put on this band, 05:37 I don't remember the name right now. 05:39 Starting in Newcastle, that was our hometown. 05:42 Although I have went to church all my life, churches 05:47 seem so irrelevant to me, because I'm feeling these 05:51 feelings of depression. 05:53 These anxieties I'm having as a little kid. 05:56 I'm told all this information from my church members 06:01 and my pastors, but it just so intellectual and so much 06:03 information I couldn't relate to that. 06:06 Because I'm insecure, I'm struggling for an identity. 06:08 But I saw that my favorite rock stars. 06:11 Particularly this man Daniel Jones, he wrote this amazing 06:14 songs to me at the time. 06:15 Songs with a title like Freak, I'm a freak of nature. 06:21 And I was just like I feel like a freak, I feel 06:23 like I'm out of place, I feel like nobody really 06:25 wants to be around me. 06:26 And there was a song called No Association, 06:29 leave me alone I want to live. 06:31 And so I was sitting alone in my room, weeping over 06:34 a girl I just broke up with, it really kind of sunk 06:37 to my heart, it was true music to my ears. 06:39 But it actually was when my brother was in high school, 06:42 there was a period of time when he was searching, 06:45 all that and he was searching out popularity, 06:49 he was going to the parties. 06:50 But eventually, he had been swept into the rock music 06:54 industry after he joined a band called 06:57 The Ones with Tadpoles. 06:58 The Ones with Tadpoles were up-and-coming punk band. 07:01 Jonathan was just a normal kind of guy, but now he 07:05 was actually this rock star, the lead guitarist 07:09 of this pop band. 07:10 Of course, I'm pretty close to my brother, 07:13 we're from a close knit family. 07:15 If I have an older brother, I look up to him. 07:19 I look at what he does and want to be like him. 07:22 Because he's my hero, and I am this little insecure kid. 07:26 My brother now is parading up on stage and he has a whole, 07:30 whole school flocking after him. 07:32 He has girls that are running after him, 07:33 and I want that. 07:35 I want that kind of security that he has in popularity. 07:37 I want that kind of significance. 07:40 So as a little 13 year old I'm coming to my big brother 07:44 said hey Jonathan you know 07:45 I'm a little bass player and I'm really good at playing, 07:49 and I could really be in your band. 07:50 And then he comes over with those big words that say, 07:53 Billy your too young, I already have a bass player. 07:58 And of course those words just ring in my mind, 08:00 and I'm thinking to myself, oh man, he just shot 08:03 me down, my dreams have been shattered. 08:06 I'm kind of just scratching my head at this moment 08:10 time, I am in a really bad social situation. 08:14 Where I have gotten myself into trouble, because I've 08:18 claimed that my brother is so big and popular. 08:20 I've tried to break the whole social scene, but within 08:27 this kind of period of time in my life, 08:29 I was with friends, people that were older than me. 08:31 These friends or people were 16 and 17, 08:33 and I myself was 13 at the time. 08:35 I remember that I would go to the supermarket with 08:38 my friends, and they would say hey Billy see that 08:41 tower of boxes go and run into it. 08:44 Knock them down, and I would go and do it. 08:46 Because I would go to any distance, I'd go to any length 08:50 to seek that value from my friends. 08:53 Because I didn't find any value from any higher power 08:56 from my parents. 08:57 This is the way out for me. 08:59 So I would do anything this is the length that 09:01 I would go to. 09:03 But then a couple months later, somehow, I received this 09:06 call from my sister saying that there is a band that 09:08 wants me to play for them. 09:09 Now this band is 17, they have band members that 09:13 are 17 and 18 and 19. 09:15 And I'm still 14 at the time. 09:17 But they say Billy we want you to come play for our 09:20 band you do have some skills, you got the look. 09:22 What started out as just playing a couple of different 09:25 events locally turned into signing a record deal. 09:27 And it turned into doing photo shoots. 09:31 Then it turned around to flying around and playing. 09:34 and so I finally have stars in my eyes - like yes! 09:38 I have victory, I have something. 09:40 People want me, people want to be associated with me now. 09:43 I'm actually, people come over and now I'm like 09:46 with Billy Otto now. 09:47 I'm his friend, so I'm cool too. 09:49 Suddenly I'm playing in front of hundreds, 09:51 maybe thousands of people. 09:53 It's a different kind of the ecstatic feeling that you 09:56 get when you're playing this riff, this powerful riff. 10:00 There is this kind of the emotion in the air, 10:02 there's all these people with their hands up. 10:04 It's almost like you're being in a sense, worshiped or adored. 10:08 And coming from this insecure teenage stage, I'm just like 10:13 man, I've got something. 10:15 And the girls are looking at me as well, 10:19 it's like man I'm wanted. 10:21 I'd get off stage and suddenly, 10:23 I would feel empty again. 10:25 I'd come home from touring for maybe 3 weeks, 10:27 or 2 weeks even. 10:29 I just come home to my little home town, in a place 10:31 called Valentine with my family and I was just Billy 10:35 again from a simple street. 10:37 So I knew my value system of being in this band was not 10:42 consistent, because at any stage my band could break up. 10:45 Like my lead singer was always thinking maybe I don't want to 10:49 do this anymore, and my guitarist was thinking of going 10:51 off into his own band thing. 10:52 But at the same time my brother is having this 10:56 experience where he is seeing that things aren't 10:59 right in my family. 11:00 My family is dabbling in spiritualism. 11:02 Suddenly, these different events that are going on, 11:07 where there's happening to my sisters, there's things 11:10 happening to me when I am sleeping. 11:11 I'm being almost oppressed by something kind of spooky. 11:16 But my brother is going okay, I'm still a punk 11:20 rocker, but I care for my family, I have a conscious. 11:22 So my brother starts to pick up the Bible somehow, 11:27 the Holy Spirit just guides him. 11:29 And he begins to see that there's entity to my family 11:34 situation and although he is just trying to study to help 11:40 out my family, I'm beginning to see there's a countenance 11:42 change of his face. 11:43 There is a peace that he begins to carry, there is 11:46 a completeness that he has and I want. 11:49 And the Lord started bringing this change through his 11:52 life, and it was so attractive yet, because I'm still 11:56 in the punk rock scene. 11:57 I'm already comparing myself to my brother because my 12:00 brother is in the same scene as me. 12:02 I spent weeks and months and years just trying to be 12:06 better than my brother. 12:07 Trying to gain more of my father's favor. 12:10 And trying to be more popular than my brother. 12:12 But right now I can just see he is separate from the scene, 12:17 the Lord is changing his heart. 12:19 He starts to just bring these words from the Bible 12:23 about my Fathers in heaven love, and it leads up 12:28 to an event in my life. 12:29 I'm having this massive birthday party, and there's 12:33 hundreds of my friends bands there, 12:35 oh hundreds of my friends there. 12:37 My bands they are there, my favorite punk band that 12:39 my friends are in. 12:40 There are so many people that are just there for me, 12:46 but I myself feel so out of place. 12:48 I feel alone, like all these people are dressing like 12:52 me and wanting to be like me. 12:54 And they were saying Billy love you so much man. 12:56 But I just feel alone, I feel like I'm the only person 13:00 there with these struggles. 13:01 Because I think to myself man I have everything, I have 13:05 this band that I'm playing in. 13:07 I have all these friends that love me and I'm now a 13:11 fashion model as well. 13:12 I had his hair cut with this bang that comes over my eyes, 13:17 and I'm wearing these girls pants, and I think man 13:19 and I am just in this place, where I have everything. 13:23 But really I just feel lonely again, I feel empty, 13:26 I feel dissatisfied. 13:28 Still church to me at the time felt so irrelevant but 13:34 I knew that there was an internal craving that I had 13:37 that nothing could satisfy. 13:39 From this experience of my birthday party, there were 13:46 something that happened that triggered a thought my head 13:47 that said Billy, you aren't even being yourself. 13:49 Who are you?. 13:51 I had this vision of mind, I was looking into a 13:53 mirror, I had went into the bathroom, I just thought 13:55 I'd don't have an identity. 13:57 I'm just trying to be something I'm not. 13:59 I threw off a piece of my clothing, and I went home. 14:04 I kept on smiling to all friends, and they all thought 14:07 I was having a great time. 14:08 Although some of my friends would say to me, 14:09 Billy you don't look happy, what's wrong? 14:11 But through a series of months, the Lord started to 14:15 reveal Himself to me through nature. 14:17 Through my family, my family and I went to a family vacation 14:21 trip in the Great Barrier Reef, a beautiful 14:23 place we went Sunday's. 14:25 I began to learn about the personality of God. 14:28 The character of God is a close Father, not a 14:31 faraway arbitrary God that was out to criticize me, 14:35 nor look down upon me, about my difference, my God, 14:43 I began to see that my Father in heaven didn't 14:46 look down to me as a scattered kid who was trying 14:50 to rebel from Him, but as a kid that was longing for identity. 14:54 I began to notice that Christ was someone 14:59 who actually humbled Himself. 15:01 There was a particular passage in Philippians 2:5, 15:04 that said: "let this mind be in you and which was also 15:06 in Christ Jesus, who being in the very form of God did not 15:11 consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made 15:13 himself of no reputation coming in the likeness of men. " 15:16 Just the humility of God just really blew me away. 15:20 Like I thought that God was so big and so arbitrary. 15:23 But God who actually gave everything, for a parent to 15:27 give His Son who is the world to Him. 15:29 I began to see that my Father in heaven actually gave 15:32 all of heaven to win me back. 15:36 And I knew there was a new identity that I was striving for 15:39 and I responded to a speaker, and this moment in Sydney 15:44 by a man called David Asscherick. 15:46 He's a good friend of mine now. 15:47 And all these thoughts, his testimony resonated with mine, 15:52 and the Lord was saying to me Billy, I love you this much 15:57 why are you so running from me? 15:59 And I was struggling with the Lord at that moment, 16:02 just thinking Lord, this is all I have, 16:04 this band is everything to me. 16:06 This popularity this scene, I can't leave it. 16:10 This is who I am, I think, but I don't know what I'm thinking. 16:13 But the Lord said Billy, I want to set you free, just let Me. 16:19 So I said, Lord, please change my heart, I hate myself, 16:23 hate feeling this way, I'm so depressed, I'm so selfish, 16:27 I'm so vague. 16:28 I got home from this conference, and my band member 16:33 said to me, he rang me up a couple hours after I had 16:36 just gotten home in my hometown, he said Billy I want to 16:41 quit the band, I can't play in this anymore. 16:43 And I was kind of like man, and I was trying to pray 16:46 and bring this to my band members. 16:49 I was like man, these are my best friends, what am I going 16:51 to say to them, I want to leave this band, I can't play in it, 16:53 but they are going to disown me. 16:55 But here my guitarist comes after me and says 16:58 Billy, I can't play in this scene anymore. 17:00 I started doing cartwheels. 17:03 I felt suddenly that I was just released. 17:06 And for that one moment I knew I was secure in my 17:11 Heavenly Father's love. 17:13 You know, I've got to say something because 17:15 I think it's interesting. 17:16 Because you are literally going to have to walk 17:18 away from everything. 17:20 You are literally saying okay, now who am I? 17:22 And was that a tough time to say that I am not this 17:25 and I know I'm not this, God revealed to me who I am. 17:29 But how do I stand in that, because I don't know 17:31 how to stand in that. 17:32 And it's hard to because all my friends were from 17:35 this particular scene. 17:36 I had found so much security in them. 17:38 But as the Lord starts to re-create your heart, 17:41 He begins to change the things you once loved, 17:43 you begin to hate. 17:44 And the things you once loved the things you once hated, 17:49 you begin to love. 17:50 I began to look at my friends differently. 17:53 I began to see that I was valued as a son of God. 17:56 I didn't need to be involved in that scene anymore. 17:57 What is really interesting to me when you talk about 18:00 that is that I and I work with a lot of people coming 18:02 from that backgrounds that are so intense like you said 18:05 into punk rock, alternative rock, all that kind of stuff. 18:08 And as they come into their Christianity I watch 18:10 God with all this kind of twistedness in their mind, 18:13 I watch God slowly just untwist them. 18:15 And set them free and that un-twisting. 18:18 And it's weird to watch that first few months of 18:22 standing there saying but, but, but. 18:24 It's almost like I don't know-how to stand yet, 18:27 and God says trust Me here, trust Me right here. 18:30 Yeah - how cool is that! 18:31 So now how did you get from that point to where you 18:36 guys are doing a ministry as a family together? 18:38 Well from that experience the Lord just started 18:40 to unite our family. 18:42 Suddenly, my sisters and I, with my brother, 18:45 even my parents. 18:46 My mom came from an Islamic background, but she 18:49 was baptized when she was young, but she fell in 18:52 love with the Lord again and suddenly there was 18:53 revival in the home. 18:54 And even people from our street begin 18:57 to see a change, people from the church we were 18:59 associated with began to see a change. 19:01 My friends began to see change as well, but from that 19:06 moment on this peace was in our hearts. 19:09 And although I had done my own thing as a 19:12 punk rock kid, I wanted to go out and tour my 19:14 own self around the country. 19:16 But now, I felt the desire to bring back the family 19:18 together to start to do music again together. 19:21 So we began to listen to some of my sister songs. 19:25 And she has an incredible voice. 19:28 She has an incredible gift - and she writes. 19:30 Yes, all that some of it is original music, and she 19:33 writes from her devotional thoughts. 19:34 So could you imagine, and I just have to say imagine 19:37 this that all the sudden God is watching you guys grow, 19:41 knowing the giftings you have, but then everybody's 19:43 going in the wrong direction. 19:46 I think all of heaven is saying wait, wait, wait. 19:48 You guys just hang in there, knowing He wants to 19:51 stand you up in ministry. 19:53 You're playing punk, and your brothers to this rock 19:56 stuff, and I just think all of heaven just must've 19:59 been so thrilled as you came back to the table and 20:03 started writing for Him. 20:05 Now that it's only been a month and a half since 20:08 we started this again. 20:09 This tour has been such a blessing, like I've never 20:12 worked with my family before. 20:13 They recorded most of the albums without me, 20:17 because I was away doing ministry. 20:19 But it's such a privilege, because I always hear lots of 20:22 testimonies of a family member that might come out 20:25 and say, I've come out of this scene and the Lord has blessed, 20:28 but that's my whole family. 20:29 What's funny to me is like when you said it's only 20:32 been a month or so, is that God must be moving you guys 20:37 pretty fast because you walked in to a studio and they 20:39 say, excuse me, how about getting up here and talk. 20:43 He's moving you guys pretty fast. 20:46 To speak your mind as far as who God is. 20:49 And who you are in Christ. 20:51 And I can see why He does that, because I go to schools 20:54 all over the place, colleges, academies, I do weeks of prayers 20:58 and I'm always doing this kind of stuff. 20:59 What is really interesting to me is that most of time when 21:03 I'm at academies, high schools, and colleges 21:05 I talk to people that are wanting to kill themselves 21:07 and they are depressed, they've got porn addictions, 21:10 they've got all this struggle, 21:12 that it is a time to come up and just say who we are in 21:15 Christ, and how important that is. 21:17 And so I can see why He needs to stand you guys up. 21:20 Cause know I'm old, I could say the same thing. 21:23 I know, but I could say the same thing that you say, 21:25 and yet a group of high school folks are going to hear 21:28 it differently from you. 21:29 Right - they're going to hear it differently. 21:31 So to me, I almost want to look at you and say how cool 21:36 is it that God is raising up people that actually can 21:39 speak to this generation. 21:40 It's awesome, it's awesome. 21:42 I want to introduce Gaea now. 21:44 And Gaea what's really cool, you can go ahead 21:47 and have a seat. 21:48 What is really cool about meeting everybody is 21:51 you are not a family member. 21:53 So what brought you into the group and 21:54 where did you guys meet? 21:55 About two years ago as we met at a 21:58 youth conference in Australia. 22:00 Yeah, we all met and just clicked. 22:03 When they talk about their history of being like in 22:06 rock bands, and not in church and all that kind of 22:09 stuff, was that your history to or were you? 22:11 Very different, I was brought up pretty much from 22:15 9 years old I started going to church with my mom. 22:18 She was brought up in a Pentecostal church, and just 22:21 loving truth at this point in time. 22:24 I was coming to church with her, but it was kind of, 22:27 I guess the whole thing, I went because my mom went. 22:29 So at this point in time I meet these guys. 22:31 I guess I had a lot of head knowledge, 22:35 but I had never experienced God. 22:37 I was crying out to experience Him. 22:39 Isn't it different when you look at somebody and you 22:42 know they're in a relationship? 22:44 They are in a relationship with God, they know God. 22:47 This is not theoretical to them, not that they memorize 22:50 the Scriptures, that they love this guy. 22:52 And your heart just says I want that. 22:54 Definitely - I want that - definitely. 22:56 So, you stepped into a relationship with them, 23:00 with God in a more real sense about the same time. 23:03 Yeah, definitely - and you are a vocalist - yeah. 23:06 You know I would like you to tell me is as you stepped into 23:09 a relationship with God, as God shows Himself more real 23:12 and you connecting in such a real way with Him, 23:14 what was that like? 23:15 The reason I'm asking you is not because I want you to 23:17 tell me what all that was like because I know. 23:19 I know I love God. 23:20 But somebody listening that doesn't know that, that has 23:24 just gone to church and all that kind of stuff. 23:26 What would you tell them about how different it is? 23:28 I liked before when you sharing with us about your 23:32 experience, your background. 23:33 I can relate to a lot of that having a sense of I'm 23:36 worth nothing to God, but then we get told, 23:40 He loves us, He loves us. 23:42 So we think that must just be a love because 23:44 He has to love us. 23:45 When you start realizing that He chooses to love you, 23:49 if He looks at you in is amazed by you. 23:51 Like He adores you, it's like WHAT! 23:54 No way, and then if I don't believe that 23:57 I'm means I'm saying He is a liar. 23:58 God doesn't lie and that means 24:00 I'm worth that much to Him? 24:02 So when you realize that, like all of your experience 24:06 of head knowledge of trying to flex your muscles to try 24:09 to do what is right, what is expected of you, like. 24:11 Trying to make Him proud of you, He's like 24:13 I'm so am proud of you. 24:14 And people around you even trying to please them by 24:17 the way you act, like that just fades and the 24:20 Commandments in all of these kind of things that 24:22 were like painful, is just a joy. 24:25 Like it is a joy to want to respect other people and 24:28 to love them and to show them how much 24:30 they are worth as well. 24:31 Instead of being sad or down all the time and making 24:34 other people feel like that. 24:35 How incredible is that! 24:37 You know I love when someone decides to 24:41 unfold for us, because a lot of times we'll just say 24:44 I met God and became more real and go on. 24:46 I'm thinking wait, wait, wait. 24:47 Backup because when God becomes more real, all that joy 24:51 comes, all the sudden I look at the word of God in its 24:53 not just this kind of cold thing that I'm reading. 24:57 It's alive, and God is speaking to me through it and I walk 25:00 outside and He shows me something, and 25:02 I thinking did You show me that? 25:03 He's like yeah, and I'm thinking, 25:05 shut up how cool is that! 25:07 And knowing that I had it come out of that just that 25:09 minute for God to be that real and show me that, 25:11 and Him just waiting for me to open the door. 25:14 I'm thinking, I don't take we have a clue of how 25:17 much God loves us and how He wants to develop our 25:21 giftings and ministry in step us out and fill us 25:25 up with a passion. 25:26 I just so love meeting you guys. 25:29 You guys are amazing. 25:30 We have one more person Sarah, I want you come up. 25:34 We don't have a lot of time, but I want to find out, 25:36 cause you know I'm hearing everybody's story, and I 25:40 can't wait to hear about you. 25:41 So, you are the youngest, tell me a little 25:44 bit about you. 25:45 Were you in a rock band, did you come 25:47 from the same background? 25:48 I was never in a rock band, but I think the identity 25:54 struggle that we all have is all is manifested in 25:58 some shape or form. 26:00 God has really blessed our family and brought 26:06 us into such truth. 26:08 So were you as the stuff started happening, you saw 26:12 this happen with your brothers saw that all of a 26:14 sudden come into the family. 26:16 Is it different be at your house now than it was before? 26:18 Yeah, definitely. I love my family so much. 26:21 It's incredible, and people see our concerts and look at us and 26:26 say you're a family that love each other so much your perfect. 26:30 We are like no where not the bunch, the Brady Bunch. 26:34 We are not perfect, but things have not 26:39 always been like this. 26:40 Don't people just assume that you've always been this 26:43 way, but you've always had God in your life, you've 26:45 always been this close, and they make that assumption 26:48 I'm sure when they see you. 26:49 Yeah, like Melissa for example, I used to be the 26:55 brat in the family and I hope I'm not anymore. 26:57 Like she'd always say, Sarah you brat! 27:00 Like me and Billy would have identity struggles being 27:04 the closest in age, competing with one another, 27:08 but God has brought us into such a loving unity. 27:12 As we been studying the word and learning more about 27:16 His character by learning about Him by 27:19 beholding Him, we have become changed. 27:22 He's changed our family. 27:23 You know it's incredible when you say that, is that all 27:26 those kind of things that we expect as 27:27 normal family interaction. 27:29 With God, it is not normal, do you know what, 27:32 I mean it's not normal. 27:33 And so is those change. 27:35 I bet you guys are blessed. 27:36 I'm blessed by getting to know you guys 27:38 I'm blessed that you are on the set. 27:40 I can't wait to see you guys in concert tomorrow 27:42 and I know, somebody said you have a CD and 27:45 I get to have one. 27:46 Yes, you can have one - Woo Hoo! 27:48 Okay, you know what we are going ahead and break right now. 27:52 And I want to break, and the close we are coming back 27:54 to is going to be a little bit longer, because I want 27:57 to bring Jonathan back and ask him a few things. 28:00 So we are going to break right now, so stay with us! |
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