Participants: Cheri Peters (Host), Lee & Amy Wellard
Series Code: CLR
Program Code: CLR00081B
|
00:14 Welcome back, before the break we were talking about
00:18 your journey Amy, and how you were really wooed by God. 00:21 I mean it sounds like He let you run in all different 00:24 kinds of directions, but He was really after your heart. 00:27 He was and I'm so thankful, He was like a relentless 00:30 lover, He never gives up until He can take that place in 00:33 the heart, that's what He wants. 00:35 You were asking me Cheri, about prayer. 00:37 How I learned to pray, it was totally a new concept for 00:41 me, one day, that first week after I had been to the 00:44 evangelistic series, I walked outside of the house I was 00:47 staying in, and I was asking God to teach me, how do I 00:51 pray? Are You really there? 00:53 I have so much unbelief and doubt and struggles even 00:56 after I had just met Him. 00:57 It was like I did not hear His voice, but I had this deep 01:01 sense of His presence. 01:03 It was like His hands went around me, 01:06 and what was broken came together, 01:08 it was like He just hugged me and said I'm here. 01:11 What a love about that journey for you is that the first 01:17 thing you asked was a prayer, teach me! 01:19 Teach me! It is like being able to say to God, I don't 01:23 know anything, I'm like a little baby. 01:24 I don't know how to walk yet. 01:26 I don't even know how to connect with a God that spoke 01:29 the universe into creation, how do I connect with You? 01:33 And then, do You hear me? That is long before you get 01:37 into the Bible and the Bible says, I knit you together 01:40 in the womb, I've known you your whole life. 01:43 I know how many hairs are on your head, I really do think 01:46 about you, and My thoughts toward you are more numerous 01:49 than the grains of sand. 01:50 When I started finding all that stuff, I was like who is this 01:54 God? Do you know what I mean? 01:55 So when folks are coming into recovery, any group, 02:02 a Bible group, 12-step groups, any place that God brings 02:05 you from, is that you really have to know who He is and 02:09 the fact that His thoughts are numerous towards us. 02:13 He thinks about us, Isaiah 57:17 or 18 it says, 02:17 I delight in your recovery, I know all your garbage 02:20 and I delight in that. 02:21 It doesn't even bother Me because I am God, 02:24 and I want to heal you. 02:26 So Lee you listen to Amy and we know you know her story 02:32 and have listened to her story, so fill us in on your journey 02:35 and how you guys met. 02:37 Well I was born and raised in England the first 10 years 02:41 of my life and then we move to Australia with our family. 02:46 I didn't really have God in mind, I wasn't grown up with 02:50 the Bible and I didn't know many of the Bible stories. 02:54 I heard of Jesus and only used His name irreverently. 02:58 It wasn't until I was in my teens. - Wait! Wait! 03:02 I like the way you just jump in, because you were a wild 03:04 thing. - I was - I know that. Still am! 03:10 Yes I ended up quitting school when I was 15 and I didn't 03:14 really have any ambition. 03:16 I played golf every day and ended up as a dance 03:20 instructor and that is where I really found my need. 03:25 It was at that point. - because you were good? 03:28 I was a professional born dance instructor and I thought 03:33 that was going to fill that need. 03:35 I found out pretty quickly that was not the case. 03:39 So you'd not only got into the whole dance scene, didn't you 03:44 as far as drinking, out partying, that kind of thing? 03:48 Yes, yes we did go out partying and I couldn't understand 03:53 because I would go out with a friend of mine, 03:54 and he would have a wonderful time, and say how wonderful 03:58 it was, but in my heart I knew that was a lie. 04:01 There was no joy in seeing someone vomit up, you know. 04:05 Or get drunk, it just didn't make any sense. 04:10 In your mind you said, this cannot be all there is. 04:14 Yes. - but you got into, your journey led you to some 04:18 New Age things yourself? 04:21 Yes, like Amy I ended up looking for the meaning of life. 04:26 I went from different books, studying 'ology's', 04:31 anything with an 'ology' on the end. 04:32 I was truly seeking and felt my need of starting my whole 04:37 life again, I wish I could just erase it and go back in 04:41 time, but then I had no guidelines. 04:44 How to make my life any better than it was. 04:47 So that is where the Lord met me, is when I felt that 04:52 need of change in my heart. 04:54 Didn't you even teach for a while? Did you teach that 05:00 you can grab it all yourself, and really do... 05:05 Yes, I got involved in the New Age movement. 05:09 - I'm not letting you skip by all this stuff. 05:13 I'm big and I know so much about you, wait a minute. 05:17 Because what I like about that, I know sometimes people 05:21 want to skip over those things in their lives and want to 05:25 jump in and say I did this and now I'm here. 05:28 But I think all that makes a difference, because you 05:32 really did explore all that to the point where I believed 05:35 it enough, I want to teach you this. 05:37 Yes that is right, I got involved in New Age. 05:40 I started to go into programs that try to make you feel 05:44 better, self-development programs. 05:46 They try to take you back in your past and try to make 05:51 you feel that all the power laid within yourself to 05:55 change, and sometimes it's very emotional. 05:59 You would see yourself where you were, but then you would 06:02 be directed back to yourself to try and get the power 06:06 outside of yourself to change. 06:08 So I really felt that it was like drinking a cup of coffee. 06:13 You get a high and then you go down again. 06:15 So you have to keep going back for more. 06:17 That was at a point where I started to realize that this 06:23 is not going to help, I need something more than this. 06:28 - So just like the partying, like somehow this 06:30 facade is good but it is still not working? 06:33 - that is right. - it is still not working for me. 06:36 You know it is interesting, I feel that way sometimes 06:40 when you drive through Las Vegas and you see these 06:43 casinos, and this is the Taj Mahal, I know it's not the 06:46 Taj Mahal, you know what I mean? 06:48 I know that, so me and emotional sense is what you're 06:51 saying, is that I knew it wasn't it, I knew that was 06:55 a fa÷ade. - yes, I think inside of you, you really want 06:59 to believe that you can do it. 07:01 You want to believe that you can make yourself someone 07:04 that you aren't, but - somebody's got to do it. 07:07 Yes. - do you know what I mean, cause it's not 07:10 happening. - exactly and I got myself into the mess in 07:12 the first place, so I can't get myself out of it. 07:15 Right, because I think you really think when somebody 07:18 does do that journey, and does do those searches, it is 07:20 almost like your heart is crying, something has to work. 07:23 Something has to change this because right now the only 07:26 thing I know, is it's not working. 07:29 I've got to have hope in something. 07:31 What's interesting is if you don't have that spiritual 07:34 background, if you're living, like you said, in a very secular 07:38 place that no one is really speaking to you about God, 07:42 so it is like all I know is that I'm not there 07:45 and something has to work. 07:47 We hold onto everything, anything that goes by you think, 07:51 oh, that might work, and you grab hold of. 07:56 So going through all that, how did you get to a place 08:01 where all of a sudden you start to look at spirituality 08:05 and God becomes what you're looking at? 08:08 Well I turned the TV on one day and I saw an 08:12 advertisement for archaeology seminar. 08:14 It was on the pyramids, so I thought great, I can learn 08:18 more on the mystery of the pyramids. 08:20 So I headed off to town and little did I realize that it 08:24 was a Seventh-day Adventist evangelistic series. 08:28 - that is funny! - that is funny. 08:31 It's great information but it was not what you were 08:34 thinking? - and no, I think if I would have known 08:38 before I got there I would have turned back. 08:39 But the Lord knew I had to be convicted that the Bible 08:44 was true, coming from an atheistic background, being 08:48 raised up with a doubting mind, I really needed to have 08:52 that assurance that the Bible is true to be able to 08:56 understand more about that, and the Lord knew that. 08:59 So I would see night after night, evidence from the Bible 09:04 and what they had said, past time and what it is today. 09:09 That just blew me away, it was like coming out of a dark 09:12 hole, and they start talking about this Hebrew prophets. 09:16 I never even knew a Hebrew prophet. 09:18 I didn't even knew what Hebrew was. - right! 09:21 I thought these guys know more than Nostradamus, 09:24 I have to look into this and the next thing I knew 09:27 I had a Bible in my hand. 09:29 I started asking questions about Jesus, and life after 09:31 death, and it was just unbelievable. 09:36 When the light goes on and you have no previous 09:41 background to that, and someone can present the Bible 09:45 and give you the answers, that blew me away. 09:48 When somebody says, I'm searching, I'm looking at 09:52 all this stuff, and all of a sudden I see God 09:56 and a light goes on. 09:57 Let's say you're talking to someone totally secular, 10:02 has no idea what you just said, why the difference? 10:06 Why does that matter? What was different before that 10:10 happened and after that happened? 10:12 How did you feel physically and mentally, did it matter? 10:18 It did, it did, I felt I had wasted my life. 10:22 I felt emptiness in my soul and nothing else could fill 10:27 that need, and the Lord knew I had to hang onto 10:30 something, I had to have faith in something. 10:34 I believe God had to convince me first intellectually, 10:40 in order to have a heart experience, where I can open 10:45 myself to Him and say, yes there is a God. 10:48 I can pray to Him because I know His word is true. 10:52 - so it is almost like Amy, you are saying, I ate. 10:56 I had this eating disorder to fill me up. 10:59 It sounds like emptiness was not about food for you, 11:02 but it was very real emptiness anyway? - yes. 11:06 God all of a sudden said. 11:08 There is these tuggings on your heart. 11:10 I remember the first time I went to church feeling like 11:14 I could have the rocks fall on me because everyone seemed 11:18 so holy and everyone was smiling, 11:21 they had this joy and love and I noticed that instantly 11:25 I just felt so unholy. 11:27 - like I didn't have a right to be there? - exactly. 11:29 I didn't even come back because it was too much. 11:32 You ever had an experience where the world is too much, 11:35 oh this is overwhelming emotionally. 11:39 So that is what I felt at that time. 11:42 I'm glad you came back. - eventually. 11:46 So at this point you guys still don't know each other? 11:50 No. - you are having this spiritual experience. 11:52 You are falling in love with God and turning things over. 11:55 You are having a spiritual experience almost in the 11:58 same place, so how did God finally say, 12:03 I want you guys to now meet? 12:05 Well it was about 11 years after that, the Lord had to 12:10 take us on a different journey. 12:13 - What did you do in those 11 years? That's a long time. 12:17 For some reason I thought you guys met right away, 12:19 but no. - no. - no! 12:21 It wouldn't have worked, you can have the right love at 12:23 the wrong time, and that's what happened. 12:26 - that's an incredible saying, 12:28 the right love at the wrong time. 12:30 I think as you were talking about recovery, I had so 12:33 much emotional damage there was no way I was ready for 12:36 a relationship, I was but 22 years old. 12:38 So I think that's one of the reasons the Lord took 12:40 another 11 years before we met. 12:43 Okay, because now you're recovering from the eating 12:47 disorder and all that stuff, God is just walking you 12:50 into all that? - right, right. 12:52 Okay, so for you what did you do in those 11 years? 12:56 Well I started getting more involved in overseas 13:00 missionary work and so I traveled to the Philippines, 13:04 Japan, and so we ended up going to different countries. 13:09 Sometimes, it wasn't until after met, we found out that we 13:12 actually been to the same places. 13:14 - so criss-crossing each other's paths all along the way. 13:17 - Yes! Exactly. 13:19 That is funny. - yes! 13:20 So there was this one particular case, on the eve 13:23 before I met Amy, one of 8000 islands in the Philippines, 13:27 the very year before she was at the same island, the same 13:30 house, the same church, doing the same thing as I was, 13:34 but we never heard of each other, it is just amazing. 13:38 That is really funny, so I want to go back Amy, you said 13:43 you are a 220 pounds, so God literally walks you into 13:47 a place of health? 13:49 Well! - I like that well. 13:52 He knew I needed a lot of rehab, a lot. 13:55 I look back on those years and consider myself an 13:58 emotional rehab, but it's in disguise because Jesus is so 14:01 kind that other people don't know that's what He's doing with 14:04 you at so He put me in different families, a lot of 14:08 Christian homes, and they were healthy people. 14:10 They taught me how to eat, how to cook, how to live 14:13 healthily for the body and of course that affected me 14:17 emotionally just being nurtured by families filling those 14:21 emotional voids that I had not had as much as I needed. 14:25 So that's what He did with me over those years, 14:28 and there were other things. 14:29 He put me with children, and the children are such a 14:32 healing thing, working with children so I became a home 14:34 school teacher for a number of years, with the little ones. 14:37 I learned how they trusted me, then I learned how to 14:40 trust in Jesus more than it built me emotionally. 14:43 When you say that a lot of folks will not understand 14:47 that, I worked with down syndrome kids and it's the same 14:50 thing, they love me to death, because they love you. 14:53 I told people at the end of my shift, that I had snot 14:56 from head to toe, just from being hugged on and all that 15:00 stuff, but it was like I needed to be loved and to be 15:04 touched and those kids just love you. 15:07 That's what He did for me and I ended up thinking Lord 15:08 why did You could be with children, because I am not 15:10 a teacher and I don't know what I'm doing? 15:11 But the Lord was really healing me, that's what He was 15:13 doing and I realized that later. 15:15 It's interesting to be able to say, no matter where you 15:18 are at in your recovery journey, once you turn it over 15:20 to God, it's trust that He knows what you need. 15:23 We think we can run ahead of Him, He is like this damage 15:28 is so deep that I want to start bringing this damage out 15:32 so you can surrender it. 15:33 It sounds but that's what He was doing with you. 15:36 During the time that was using you Lee for Ministry, 15:39 did you feel that same thing as you are getting a little 15:42 bit of healing, as you were walking with God. 15:46 I felt I was getting to the point where I started to have 15:50 emotional needs for a wife, even though I was involved in 15:54 Ministry and there was still a little emptiness I guess. 15:57 Something that probably Adam felt, when he saw the 16:01 creatures, that they had a pair. 16:04 So even though my heart was in Ministry, 16:07 I still felt that longing for a partner, 16:09 and I prayed for several years. 16:12 If I remember you made a list? - That's right, yes. 16:16 So talk about that, because that was funny to me. 16:20 I thought women did that, but then I started asking men after 16:24 you shared that with me, some men do that? 16:26 Yes they do. - that was cool. 16:28 Well I didn't think there was enough ladies on the planet 16:30 to meet my list, I thought I was asking too much. 16:33 I really want someone that was like Rebecca, 16:38 you know willing to go anywhere, because the Lord kept 16:40 taking me different places, and I did know the next year 16:43 where are was going to go. 16:44 So I needed a lady that was willing, by faith, to just go 16:48 anywhere the Lord had called me. 16:50 - just to pick up whenever you wanted to pick up. 16:53 Yes, exactly. - you wanted her to be what else? 16:55 I wanted her to be a medical missionary, needed to be 17:01 reasonably tall, and someone who could complement my 17:07 Ministry, like music which Amy is very gifted with. 17:12 What is funny and I have to stay with the fact, so your 17:17 prayer ended up being, and I want some people that are 17:21 watching and do not know how to pray yet, so the prayer 17:24 for you was to even trust God with whom you are going spend 17:28 the rest your life with? Those kind of things. 17:30 So you're being able to ask God for that. 17:33 So now I am dying, how did you guys meet? 17:38 I've been saying that, so please. 17:40 Can I fill you in a little on this? 17:42 He just mentioned Rebecca, that's the Bible story, 17:46 Rebecca and Isaac, that you find in Genesis first book 17:49 of the Bible, chapter 24. 17:51 For seven years I loved that story and prayed over that 17:54 story, I said, wouldn't it be wonderful if Jesus could make me 17:57 a Rebecca, because Jesus brought Isaac into her life. 18:01 Before she even met him she knew she was going to marry 18:05 him and I wanted Jesus to arrange a marriage for me 18:08 because I had had so many broken relationships. 18:11 I said the one I'd choose, it is not going to work, 18:14 but if Jesus chooses for me, He'll give me the one I can 18:17 love more than the one I choose for myself. 18:19 So I finally got to that point at 32 years of age were 18:22 I felt, I reconciled and wanted Jesus' will for me. 18:26 So I claimed that I wanted to be like Rebecca, and I have 18:29 learned, if you claim the Bible enough, Jesus will fulfill it 18:32 in your life, He will give you the desire of your heart. 18:35 So I was praying for this for seven years. 18:37 When I was living in new York city after 9/11, 18:39 when the Trade Towers came down, I was up there were 18:42 some of the rescue efforts. 18:44 I have been praying specifically for a husband and I felt 18:47 the strong sense of calling now from Jesus that He was 18:50 going to bring me a husband and here I am in New York. 18:53 Where is he Lord? 18:54 - with millions of people walking around. 18:57 I'm thinking okay Lord, I'm going to trust You. 19:00 I felt like He was saying wait a bit 19:02 longer Amy, just wait. 19:03 Then after coming back from church one day, I have been 19:06 praying with a friend of mine about this particular 19:09 desire and when I got home I had a phone call from my 19:12 friends down at the Wildwood life Center, and they had 19:15 just spent the Sabbath with Lee. 19:17 He had just arrived at the center. 19:18 They said Amy, we're convicted that this is the husband you 19:21 need to come back, he's the one. 19:23 - Not that they wanted to set you up on a date. 19:27 Hey, your husband is here. 19:29 That's right, and the thing of it was this lady was not a 19:33 matchmaker, she was a serious praying Christian lady who 19:37 mentored me and I really took her opinion as being worthy. 19:40 You know what, like Sarah when she heard should was going 19:43 to have a baby, I just laughed, because Sarah was 90 years 19:46 old to have a baby. 19:48 I felt wow, is this really happening? 19:50 I knew deep in my heart Jesus was calling me to go and marry 19:53 him, so she gave me all the statistics that she had found 19:56 out about him and it turned out that his life was very 19:59 similar to mine, all the places we have been crossing for 20:02 years and I was convicted I needed to leave New York and go 20:04 back to Georgia and meet this man. 20:07 - so you ended up going to Wildwood, what did you guys 20:10 think when you met each other? 20:12 Because when God arranges that, it's not like the world and 20:16 you get fireworks that go off, and all of a sudden! 20:21 It is not all that and that is where I think we get so 20:25 tripped up, is that love is more real than that. 20:29 - Yes, when I first saw Lee I was sitting at the nurses 20:32 station there at the hospital and I knew this was the man 20:36 that my friend had told me about. 20:38 I got very nervous, and when I looked at him I thought 20:41 ought oh! I think God made a mistake. 20:46 Because he is not my type, that was my initial reaction and 20:49 I'm sorry about that, but like you say there were no fireworks, 20:52 there is no chemistry, nothing like that. 20:55 And he felt the same. - plus I had an interest for 20:57 another lady at the time. 21:00 But I do remember that morning, dressing up and cleaning my 21:03 fingernails knowing that she was going to come, even though 21:07 I had an interest for someone else. 21:09 As soon as I saw her I knew this was a lady that my friend 21:14 had told me about, but there was no interest, there was no 21:18 chemistry, sparks or anything like that. 21:21 The Lord had to change my heart. 21:24 - right, did you say to God, I hear what You are saying, 21:29 but I don't get it because I don't get it. 21:33 You are going to have to change something. 21:36 Did you guys say that out loud? 21:38 - I did, yes and to back up a little bit. 21:42 I had asked the Lord to help me with courtship and the 21:45 Lord said He was going to help me and I assumed it was for 21:48 the other lady and did not realize it at the time. 21:52 When I started to get more interested and started talking 21:57 to Amy, I realized that she had all the qualities plus more 22:00 and that I needed. - your list. - exactly! The only thing 22:04 missing was my heart, engaged. I knew that had to be there 22:08 for me to go forward. 22:10 I remember that I went down to Texas to do a health program. 22:13 I was watching 3ABN. 22:15 Funny enough! I was convicted at that time to pray that 22:19 God would change my heart and I prayed that prayer. 22:22 I said Lord, if this is the one You have chosen, 22:25 please change my heart. 22:27 As soon as I prayed that prayer, before I even saw her 22:31 again, He had changed my heart. 22:34 He put those feelings in my heart for her. 22:37 - when you saw him again, did you know that was there? 22:41 I did,. 22:43 - it's just you can feel it. 22:45 It's funny you asked me because before he went to Texas 22:48 I could see he was not interested in me and that he was 22:51 interested someone else, and I'm not interested in him. 22:54 So I said Lord, there's three miracles we need here to 22:57 change me, to change him, and the other lady. 22:59 The funny thing was that the Lord spoke to me while I was 23:02 in my kitchen, sometimes He would just give me a clear 23:05 word, and it was in Romans chapter 4, it says, Abraham 23:09 was fully persuaded that what God had promised, 23:11 He was able to perform and the Lord showed me it was 23:15 about Him and not about me, it wasn't about me attracting 23:18 him or pulling him like the old methods of the world, 23:21 but it was about God's glory and what He wanted to do. 23:23 So He would do it, it was like He was saying, 23:25 stand still Amy, just watch Me! 23:27 Then he came back from Texas, and I could see the way 23:30 he looked at me, and the way he related to me, 23:32 that there was a change. 23:34 When he looked at the other lady it was gone. 23:36 God, as you say, has a sense of humor. 23:39 I remember, He put me in charge of doing a little concert. 23:42 There was Amy and the other lady that I had the interest 23:45 for right at the same time. 23:47 She was playing a violin and the other lady was playing 23:50 a flute, and I thought God what are you doing by putting 23:54 these two ladies up in front of me? 23:56 I knew, the Lord was hitting me on the head, 24:01 saying this is the one. 24:04 So what was really incredible, and I'm so proud about God, 24:11 is the fact that He knows us so much. 24:15 He says I know that even in your healing where you would 24:19 choose this, you have always chose that and it always has 24:22 gotten you in trouble. 24:23 So I am going to actually try to get you to trust Me 24:26 even in making those choices. 24:28 When we do, because you guys have been married how long? 24:32 Seven years. - you have a child and a Ministry that you 24:37 do together and all those things. 24:39 I'm going to break and just ask a question, but then when 24:42 we come back for the close, I want you to come with us 24:45 and share a little about the Ministry. 24:47 So let me find out, first of all we have some questions in 24:51 the café, Heidi you had a question. 24:54 I did, yeah Amy, I was wondering about your eating 24:57 disorder, when you were talking about living with families 25:01 that was helping you healing, how did you really do that? 25:05 I mean I struggled sometimes with eating things to fill my 25:09 heart up, how was it that you still work with that? 25:14 I think basic for recovery from eating disorders is that we have 25:19 to know that Jesus fills that void and allow Him to fill it. 25:24 Really not trying to fix ourselves because 25:27 we can't fix ourselves. 25:29 Just a Bible text I would like to share with you is from 25:33 Colossians 2:10 where it says, ye are complete in Him. 25:36 We really are, and what that is saying is that we are 25:39 accepted, God accepts us and He receives us so that He might 25:43 help us, change us, clean us up, take away our addictions. 25:47 We do not have to take them away before He will accept us. 25:50 I think a lot of the root eating disorder problems is 25:54 issues of acceptance and are we really loved. 25:57 That is why we are doing it. 25:58 - Are we really good enough? 26:00 Right, are we good enough for God to receive us. 26:02 The fact is He says, I already receive you and love you. 26:05 Really understanding that is the basis, and that is what 26:08 those families were able to teach me, practically by their 26:10 love for me that they showed me I was a accepted as I am. 26:13 You know I was overweight and messed up and emotionally 26:16 a wreck, they accepted me and that was the basis. 26:20 I have to even go further, because I think we make 26:24 a statement but it sound so easy. 26:27 You are saying, that their day in and day out acceptance 26:31 was what got to you. 26:32 I remember there was are woman Heidi, who had an eating 26:35 disorder, she was a girl 19 years old they came to work at 26:37 our Ministry and I was trying to do that for her just 26:42 acceptance, but she become in and she had eaten and taken 26:47 laxatives and she was throwing up. 26:49 The bathroom was by the office, so sometimes there was some 26:51 intense stuff going on, at one point she came out and 26:56 I said, if Jesus came back right now would you be accepted? 27:01 She started crying, she had this horrible morning, 27:06 she's in the middle of all her addictions and she said no. 27:09 She cried and cried and cried. 27:11 I said, then, you don't know who God is. 27:14 It's really simple to say that, really asking the 27:19 Holy Spirit to show you how loved am I? 27:22 How accepted am I? It is not just that I know what verse 27:26 to go to, but I know that I beyond a shadow of a doubt, I am 27:30 loved by God, that His heart is for me, that in the middle 27:34 of my worse acting out, God says my heart 27:38 has not changed to you. 27:39 I think that as soon as we start to get that in a fuller 27:42 sense, then I can recover. 27:45 Because I am not recovering for any other reason then that 27:48 I am recovering in His love, because of His love, 27:51 not to get His love. 27:53 - Exactly, - exactly - it is a huge difference. 27:56 It is hard to say that to the depth that it is, it's like 28:00 everything sounds trite almost, but I wanted to say it 28:03 really is about understanding that God says, in My love 28:07 you will heal and I will actually give you the skill 28:11 to do that, or the tools you need to do that. 28:14 I just need you to learn how to rest in it. 28:17 Right, exactly. 28:19 Eating disorders are huge, is just huge because it is like 28:23 what I know and sets my endorphins off. 28:26 It is what gives me peace and all that stuff. 28:28 I'm going to go ahead and break now, because I want to come 28:33 back and I want you to talk about who you are in Ministry, 28:38 what does that look like? 28:40 I know that your prayer Lee was to find somebody to be in 28:43 Ministry with, and I know you guys are doing incredible 28:45 things because you have done incredible things in my life 28:48 with just what you have done over at Wildwood. 28:50 So we are going to go ahead and take a break because again 28:53 I have to say, God doesn't just clean us up to clean us up. 28:56 That would be incredible, if He said, how clean you up and 28:59 you can sit happy in a pew somewhere and just be smiling. 29:03 He says no, I actually want to give you a life. 29:05 I have seen almost every country, it is fun His plans for 29:10 us and I know for Lee and Amy He had incredible plans for 29:15 us, so we will be right back, stay with us. |
Revised 2014-12-17