Participants: Pr. John Carter
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001022
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00:07 >> FROM ARCADIA, CALIFORNIA, "THE CARTER REPORT" PRESENTS 00:10 THE LIVING WORD AROUND THE WORLD. 00:17 >> HELLO, I'M DAVE DENO AND THIS IS "THE CARTER REPORT." 00:21 TODAY WE HAVE AN UNUSUAL OPPORTUNITY, AND THAT IS TO GO 00:25 BEHIND THE SCENES OF THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE WATCHED 00:29 FOR SO MANY YEARS. 00:30 WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU WHAT 00:33 I KNOW ONE PERSON HAS CALLED THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD. 00:37 I PREFER TO CALL IT, "FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT." 00:39 AND THAT IS SIMPLY WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS GREAT OPPORTUNITY 00:43 TO TALK WITH JOHN CARTER ABOUT HIMSELF. 00:47 HE DOESN'T NORMALLY LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD 00:50 LIKE TO KNOW HOW DID YOU GET STARTED IN THE MINISTRY, 00:52 WHAT'S YOUR VIEW OF MINISTRY? 00:54 SO STAY TUNED AS WE MEET JOHN CARTER. 01:01 >> HELLO, I'M DAVE DENO FOR JOHN CARTER 01:03 AND "THE CARTER REPORT," HERE TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE 01:06 A PART OF THIS MINISTRY, TO BE A PARTNER IN THIS 01:08 MINISTRY, TO KNOW THE JOY OF GIVING. 01:12 GOD'S WORD TELLS US THAT IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO 01:16 RECEIVE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS MORE JOYFUL TO GIVE THAN 01:19 TO RECEIVE. 01:21 BUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU WILL KNOW THIS IS TO DO IT YOURSELF, 01:23 TO COME AND JOIN US IN THIS WONDERFUL MINISTRY OF BRINGING 01:27 THE GOSPEL TO HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS, 01:30 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN AREAS AROUND THE WORLD THAT 01:35 PERHAPS YOU AND I MAY NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY 01:37 TO TRAVEL TO. 01:39 THIS IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT THE PREACHING OF 01:42 THE GOSPEL, THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT NEW LIVES IN CHRIST. 01:47 NOW WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AND WE WANT 01:50 TO SHOW YOU THAT APPRECIATION BY SENDING SOMETHING BACK 01:53 TO YOU TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR GIFT. 01:57 ONE WOULD BE A TERRIFIC BOOK THAT IS WRITTEN 02:00 BY JOHN CARTER CALLED "THE FATE OF THE HEATHEN." 02:04 NOW THIS IS A GREAT BOOK, NOT ONLY FOR YOU TO READ, BUT ALSO 02:06 TO SHARE WITH FAMILY MEMBERS AND WITH FRIENDS. 02:09 IT'S VERY DIRECT, VERY TO THE POINT. 02:12 AND THEN ANOTHER BOOK THAT JOHN'S A LITTLE SHY ABOUT IS 02:15 THE HISTORY OF JOHN CARTER AND "THE CARTER REPORT." 02:18 YOU CAN SEND YOUR GIFT TO THE CARTER REPORT AT 02:20 P.O. BOX 1900, THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 91358. 02:28 IN AUSTRALIA, YOU CAN SEND IT TO TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES, 02:33 AND THE BOX IS ON THE SCREEN. 02:35 I ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE A PART OF THIS MINISTRY. 02:38 WRITE TO US AGAIN AT THE CARTER REPORT, BOX 1900, 02:42 THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 91358. 02:46 AND IN AUSTRALIA, AT TERRIGAL, NEW SOUTH WALES. 02:50 AGAIN, THE BOX NUMBER IS ON THE SCREEN. 02:54 THANK YOU. 02:55 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF THIS MINISTRY. 03:03 >> LET'S JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. 03:04 PASTOR CARTER, IT IS SO GREAT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU 03:09 AND TO TALK ABOUT YOUR LIFE. 03:12 LET'S BEGIN WITH "THE CARTER REPORT" ITSELF. 03:15 HOW DID THIS BEGIN? 03:18 >> DAVE, YEARS AGO, IN AUSTRALIA--I WAS BORN 03:22 AND BRED IN AUSTRALIA. 03:24 WE WANTED TO REACH SECULAR PEOPLE BECAUSE AUSTRALIA 03:26 IS NOT A CHURCHY SOCIETY. 03:30 AMERICA IS A VERY RELIGIOUS SOCIETY, BUT ON THE WHOLE, 03:33 AUSTRALIANS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY CHURCHY PEOPLE. 03:38 AND WE WONDERED, "HOW CAN WE REACH SECULAR PEOPLE WITH 03:41 THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST?" 03:44 AND SO WE HAD A LITTLE THINK TANK IN A LITTLE TOWN IN 03:48 NEW SOUTH WALES CALLED ALBURY. 03:51 AND WE GOT SOME MEDIA PEOPLE TOGETHER, CHRISTIAN PEOPLE, AND 03:56 WE BRAINSTORMED FOR A FEW DAYS. 03:58 PHIL WARD WAS THERE. 04:00 WARREN JUDD WAS THERE. 04:01 AND THEY CAME UP WITH THE TITLE "THE CARTER REPORT" BECAUSE 04:06 THIS SOUNDED LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS A NEWS PROGRAM, 04:11 SOMETHING WHICH WAS NOT OVERTLY IN-YOUR-FACE RELIGIOUS. 04:16 THAT'S HOW IT STARTED. 04:17 >> WHEN DID YOU GO INTO THE MINISTRY? 04:19 LET'S TAKE IT BACK EVEN FURTHER. 04:21 >> OH, THAT'S GOING BACK TO THE DARK AGES. 04:23 [LAUGHING] >> I GRADUATED FROM AVONDALE 04:26 COLLEGE IN THE END OF 1961, SORT OF BEFORE YOU WERE BORN, 04:32 DAVE. 04:33 BUT I WENT INTO THE MINISTRY IN--BEGINNING OF 1962. 04:39 BEEN THERE EVER SINCE. 04:42 >> AND "THE CARTER REPORT" ITSELF, TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT 04:46 ABOUT THE VERY BEGINNING STAGES, WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH 04:49 TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. 04:51 >> WELL, AS I MENTIONED, OUR ATTEMPT WAS TO COME UP WITH 04:55 AN APPROACH THAT WOULD BE NOT OFFENSIVE TO SECULAR PEOPLE. 05:02 PHIL WARD SAID TO ME MANY YEARS AGO, "IF YOU BRING PEOPLE INTO 05:05 A MEETING IN AUSTRALIA AND THEY SEE THAT IT'S OVERTLY 05:09 RELIGIOUS, YOU KNOW, THEY THINK YOU'RE A BIBLE BANGER." 05:12 AND WITH MANY AUSTRALIANS, AND MANY PEOPLE TODAY IN AMERICA, 05:15 RELIGION DOESN'T HAVE SUCH GOOD CONNOTATIONS. 05:18 TAKE THE SCANDALS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CHURCHES, 05:21 PARTICULARLY IN ONE GREAT CHURCH, THE TERRIBLE 05:25 PEDOPHILE SCANDALS. 05:26 AND SO RELIGION TURNS A LOT OF PEOPLE OFF. 05:29 AND SO, A GROUP OF US GOT TOGETHER AND WE CAME UP WITH 05:33 THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD SPECIALIZE IN BIBLICAL 05:35 ARCHAEOLOGY, WITH A POPULAR TWIST TO ATTRACT PEOPLE TO THE 05:41 BIBLE, AND THEN FROM THE BIBLE TO CHRIST HIMSELF. 05:44 >> YOU KNOW, ARCHAEOLOGY IS A TOPIC THAT REALLY CROSSES OVER 05:49 A LOT OF DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES AND INTERESTS. 05:53 PEOPLE LOVE ARCHAEOLOGY. 05:55 IT'S A GREAT WAY TO ENGAGE THEM AND TO BRING THEM BACK 06:00 TO GOD'S WORD, ISN'T IT? 06:01 >> THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THE HISTORY CHANNEL, 06:03 NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC. 06:04 LOT OF THIS STUFF IS ARCHAEOLOGY. 06:06 >> SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT YOU COVER, WOULD YOU GIVE US 06:09 AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THEM? 06:10 >> YES, WE WILL PUT ON SUBJECTS LIKE AMAZING DISCOVERIES 06:16 IN LOST CITIES OF THE DEAD. 06:17 THAT'S ON THE PHARAOHS AND EGYPT AND THE PROPHECIES 06:20 ABOUT EGYPT. 06:21 MORE RECENTLY, IT TALKS ABOUT QUEEN HATSHEPSUT. 06:24 SHE WAS JUST DISCOVERED, YOU KNOW, BY DR. HAWASS, WHOM I 06:28 SPENT SOME TIME WITH IN EGYPT. 06:30 AND JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, HE DISCOVERED QUEEN HATSHEPSUT. 06:34 AND IF DR. RANDY YOUNKER OF ANDREWS UNIVERSITY IS RIGHT, 06:38 AS WELL AS THE GREAT DR. SIEGFRIED HORN, 06:40 THIS COULD VERY WELL BE THE PRINCESS WHO WENT DOWN TO 06:45 THE RIVER NILE AND HEARD THE BABY CRYING AND SHE BECAME HIS 06:49 FOSTER MOTHER. 06:50 SO IT'S QUITE AN AMAZING STORY. 06:52 SO WE OPEN ON THE AMAZING DISCOVERIES IN THE LAND 06:56 OF EGYPT AS IT RELATES TO THE BIBLE. 07:00 AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN, DAVE, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE 07:03 COME THROUGH THE DOORS TO OUR PROGRAMS. 07:07 AND SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE SECULAR UNBELIEVERS, 07:11 COMMUNISTS, AND ATHEISTS, BUT ENDED UP BELIEVING IN THE BIBLE 07:15 AND GIVING THEIR LIVES TO CHRIST. 07:16 SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT ROAD TO CHRIST, ESPECIALLY PAVED 07:21 FOR SECULAR PEOPLE. 07:22 >> JOHN, YOU'VE TAKEN THIS ROAD AND TRAVELED THIS LITERALLY 07:27 AROUND THE WORLD. 07:28 >> YES. 07:29 >> YOU HAVE BEEN TO SO MANY DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. 07:32 SOME OF THE COUNTRIES, WHAT--NAME A FEW OF THEM. 07:35 >> BEFORE I ANSWER THAT, DAVE, I WOULD SAY THIS. 07:38 I DID NOT ORIGINATE THIS APPROACH. 07:41 OTHERS WENT BEFORE ME AND TRIED THIS APPROACH IN AUSTRALIA, 07:45 LIKE JOHN COLTHART, GEORGE BURNSIDE, SOME GREAT 07:48 PUBLIC SPEAKERS. 07:50 BUT WE WORKED ON IT A LITTLE BIT. 07:53 WE DEVELOPED IT A LITTLE BIT. 07:55 AND WE DEVELOPED IT FOR TELEVISION. 07:57 AND WE WERE THE FIRST PEOPLE, I THINK, IN THE WORLD TO PRODUCE 08:02 RELIGIOUS TELEVISION ADS. 08:04 WE DID THIS MANY, MANY YEARS AGO. 08:07 WE DID THIS WITH BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY. 08:09 NOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'VE USED THIS APPROACH 08:12 IN RUSSIA. 08:17 ALMOST A COMPLETELY SECULAR SOCIETY WHEN WE WENT THERE 08:20 IN 1991. 08:23 WE SAW THE POWER OF GOD REVEALED. 08:25 WE SAW MILLIONS OF RUSSIANS COME TO THE MEETINGS. 08:28 WE SAW HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS COME TO CHRIST. 08:31 WE USED IT IN UKRAINE, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO RUSSIA. 08:36 IN KIEV, WE SAW 100,000 PEOPLE NOT GET INTO THE HALL. 08:42 >> WERE YOU NOT ONE OF THE FIRST EVANGELISTS TO BE ABLE TO 08:48 GAIN ACCESS TO THIS PORTION OF THE WORLD AFTER THE FALL 08:52 OF THE SOVIET UNION? 08:54 >> EVEN WHEN THE SOVIET UNION WAS STILL ALIVE, BUT AILING, 08:59 BACK IN 1991, WE CONDUCTED WHAT SOME PEOPLE TOLD US WAS 09:05 THE FIRST EVER EVANGELISTIC CAMPAIGN IN THE SOVIET UNION. 09:11 AND WE CONDUCTED CAMPAIGNS EVERY YEAR UNTIL LAST YEAR. 09:17 WE'VE STILL BEEN RUNNING CAMPAIGNS THERE EVERY YEAR. 09:19 >> WHAT ABOUT THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE MESSAGE? 09:22 I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY. 09:25 YOU'VE TRAVELED ALL AROUND THE WORLD. 09:28 CAN YOU COMPARE THE ACCEPTANCE OF THOSE MESSAGES IN DIFFERENT 09:33 PARTS OF THE WORLD TO ACCEPTANCE HERE IN AMERICA? 09:38 >> IN RUSSIA AND UKRAINE, IT WAS A SENSATION. 09:42 ALL I CAN SAY IS THAT WE WERE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT 09:46 TIME AND WE SAW MASSIVE CROWDS OF PEOPLE, RECORD BREAKING 09:51 CROWDS OF PEOPLE. 09:53 WE SAW THIS ALSO IN INDIA, 30,000 PEOPLE COMING FORWARD TO 09:58 ACCEPT CHRIST IN AN ALTAR CALL, HINDUS AND MOSLEMS. 10:03 WE SAW THE SAME RESPONSE IN AFRICA. 10:08 WE'RE GOING BACK TO AFRICA IN A FEW WEEKS' TIME. 10:12 WE SAW GREAT SUCCESS IN SYDNEY, WHICH IS A GREAT CITY, BUT 10:16 ENTIRELY--NO, NOT ENTIRELY SECULAR, BUT VERY SECULAR. 10:21 TWENTY-THOUSAND PEOPLE AT THE SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE. 10:24 A BIG CROWD, A HUGE CROWD IN MELBOURNE. 10:28 SOME SAY, DAVE, THESE WERE THE BIGGEST SECULAR CROWDS 10:34 ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IN RELIGIOUS MEETINGS. 10:38 NOW IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, 10:41 WE SAW 24,000 PEOPLE AT THE SHRINE AUDITORIUM, 10:44 DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES. 10:47 NOW IT'S NOT EASY ON THE L.A. 10:48 FREEWAYS TO GET DOWNTOWN TO THE SHRINE AUDITORIUM. 10:52 I BELIEVE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL ACCEPT THIS APPROACH ALSO, 10:57 BUT AMERICA DOESN'T QUITE HAVE THE CHALLENGES OF 11:02 SO MUCH SECULARISM. 11:05 IN MANY PARTS OF AMERICA, IT IS BECOMING SECULAR, BUT PEOPLE IN 11:10 AMERICA ARE MORE RELIGIOUS THAN PEOPLE ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE 11:13 FACE OF THE EARTH, AS WE KNOW. 11:15 >> YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF AMERICA, AND YOU MENTIONED 11:17 INDIA, AND 30,000 HINDU AND MOSLEMS COMING TO CHRIST-- 11:22 >> IN AN ALTAR CALL. 11:23 >> IN AN ALTAR CALL. 11:25 THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN A PERSON RESPONDING 11:27 TO AN ALTAR CALL IN AMERICA. 11:29 HERE, WE CAN DO THAT FREELY. 11:31 THERE, IT COULD BE A DANGER TO THEIR LIVES. 11:34 >> YES, IT WAS, INDEED. 11:36 BECAUSE AS I WOULD BE PREACHING, DAVE, I WOULD HEAR 11:39 THE CALL OF THE MOSLEM PREACHER BECAUSE THERE WAS A MOSLEM 11:43 MOSQUE A COUPLE HUNDRED YARDS FROM WHERE WE WERE PREACHING. 11:49 WE SUFFERED--OR RATHER, WE DIDN'T SUFFER. 11:51 WE EXPERIENCED TREMENDOUS OPPOSITION IN INDIA. 11:55 THEY DON'T HAVE THE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY THAT WE HAVE IN THIS 11:58 PART OF THE WORLD. 12:00 AND YOU HAVE EXTREME RELIGIOUS GROUPS, WHO ARE UTTERLY OPPOSED 12:05 TO THE BIBLE AND CHRIST AND THE PREACHING OF THE GOSPEL. 12:10 BUT IN SPITE OF THAT, PEOPLE TOLD US, "NO ONE'S GOING 12:14 TO COME." 12:16 THEY'VE TOLD US THAT EVERYWHERE OF COURSE. 12:18 YOU GET PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME. 12:20 THEN THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT GOING TO STAY. 12:22 AND IF YOU BAPTIZE THEM, IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY 12:24 DIFFERENCE TO THEM. 12:26 BUT IN INDIA, WE SAW MASSIVE CROWDS OF PEOPLE COMING. 12:29 AND THESE FOLKS WERE HINDUS AND MOSLEMS. 12:34 SO I BELIEVE THAT THE POWER OF GOD IS STILL AVAILABLE TODAY. 12:37 I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS ALIVE AND I BELIEVE THAT THE GREATEST 12:41 TIME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL IS NOT YESTERDAY OR TOMORROW. 12:45 I BELIEVE IT'S NOW. 12:46 >> JOHN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU THE DANGEROUS QUESTION. 12:50 AND THAT IS WHY ARE SO MANY AMERICANS INDIFFERENT TO 12:55 THE MESSAGE OF THE GOSPEL? 12:57 >> SIMPLE. 12:58 PROSPERITY, WEALTH, RICHES. 13:01 WHEN PEOPLE HAVE THE BRIGHT LIGHTS OF THE WORLD IN THEIR 13:03 EYES, THEY CAN'T SEE CHRIST. 13:06 THEY DON'T HAVE ANY NEED. 13:07 THE BIBLE SAYS, "RICH AND INCREASED WITH GOODS 13:10 AND IN NEED OF NOTHING." 13:13 IT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN POOR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THEY REACH 13:18 OUT FOR CHRIST. 13:20 YOU COULDN'T GET A SEAT IN THIS GREAT CHURCH HERE IN ARCADIA, 13:24 THE CHURCH AT WHICH I'M THE PASTOR, THE WEEK AFTER 9/11 13:29 BECAUSE PEOPLE HAD A NEED. 13:30 SOMETHING TERRIBLE HAD HAPPENED AND THEIR SECURITY HAD BEEN 13:33 BLOWN AWAY. 13:36 THEY WERE FEARFUL AND THEY WERE AFRAID AND THEY WANTED 13:38 TO COME TO CHURCH. 13:40 BUT WHEN PEOPLE ARE FULL OF MONEY AND THEY'VE GOT MARVELOUS 13:46 HOMES AND EVERYTHING IS GOING WELL, THEY'VE GOT HEAVEN NOW. 13:50 AND THIS IS NOT ONLY SO HERE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 13:54 IT'S TREMENDOUSLY SO IN AUSTRALIA, WHICH IS A VERY 13:57 AFFLUENT COUNTRY. 13:59 AND THE UNITED KINGDOM AND WESTERN EUROPE, AND TODAY 14:04 RUSSIA. 14:05 LAST YEAR, WE RAN A CAMPAIGN IN VOLGOGRAD. 14:09 IT USED TO BE THE CITY OF STALINGRAD. 14:12 IT SAW THE GREATEST BATTLE POSSIBLY IN THE HISTORY OF 14:15 THE HUMAN RACE, WITH UP TO 3 MILLION PEOPLE KILLED, 14:20 GERMANS AND RUSSIANS. 14:22 BEFORE WE WENT TO VOLGOGRAD, I ASKED ONE OF THE PASTORS 14:25 OVER THERE, "WHAT ARE CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE?" 14:30 OH, HE SAID, "THE PEOPLE ARE VERY POOR." 14:33 WELL, HE OBVIOUSLY HADN'T BEEN THERE, DAVE. 14:36 WE WENT THERE AND WE FOUND MANY OF THE PEOPLE WERE VERY, VERY 14:39 WEALTHY. 14:42 IF YOU GOT RUN OVER ON THE ROAD, YOU GOT RUN OVER 14:44 BY A BMW OR A MERCEDES. 14:46 THIS IS RUSSIA. 14:47 AND THE WOMEN IN THE LATEST FASHIONS. 14:50 AND SO IT WAS HARD PREACHING TO THEM. 14:54 I'VE NEVER PREACHED TO A TOUGHER AUDIENCE THAN 14:56 THE RUSSIANS IN VOLGOGRAD. 14:59 IT WAS OUR BIGGEST BATTLE. 15:01 COMPARE THAT WITH 1992 IN NIZHNY NOVGOROD OR GORKY 15:07 IN RUSSIA, WHERE WE HAD FOR THE OPENING TWO MEETINGS 15:14 OR THE OPENING WEEKEND, 30,000 OR 40,000 PEOPLE. 15:16 >> WHAT A DIFFERENCE. 15:17 >> THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TURNED AWAY. 15:19 IN THOSE DAYS, WE HAD TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS. 15:23 WE WERE RUNNING TWO SESSIONS A DAY. 15:25 WE HAD TO GO TO THREE SESSIONS A DAY. 15:27 AND THE PEOPLE WERE POOR, POOR IN SPIRIT AND POOR 15:31 IN MATERIAL GOODS. 15:33 BUT THE PROBLEM IN AMERICA TODAY IS THAT WE'RE TOO WEALTHY 15:37 AND TOO SELF-SATISFIED. 15:39 >> SCRIPTURE GIVES US A WARNING ABOUT THAT, TALKING ABOUT HOW 15:42 HARD IT IS FOR A RICH MAN TO COME TO GOD. 15:45 >> YES, YES. 15:47 >> HARDER THAN A CAMEL GOING THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. 15:49 >> AND I IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE TOUGH FOR A CAMEL TO GET 15:52 THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. 15:53 >> WE FORGET THAT SCRIPTURE ALSO SAYS, AND IT'S KIND OF A 15:57 QUESTION, RHETORICAL QUESTION, "WHAT DO YOU HAVE THAT YOU DID 16:00 NOT RECEIVE FROM GOD?" 16:03 IT'S SO EASY TO FORGET THAT WHEN WE RECEIVE THE BLESSING. 16:08 >> THAT'S TRUE. 16:10 >> THERE'S A QUESTION THAT SO MANY CHRISTIANS WRESTLE WITH 16:13 AND IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT 16:16 BECAUSE IT RELATES BACK TO OUR FAITH, OUR AWARENESS OF THE 16:19 LORD, OUR DEPENDENCE UPON HIM, OUR REVERENCE FOR HIM. 16:25 MANY, MANY CHRISTIANS WOULD BE HARD PRESSED TO ANSWER THE 16:28 QUESTION, "CAN YOU ACTUALLY PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD?" 16:35 >> AS YOU WOULD KNOW, DAVE, PHILOSOPHICALLY YOU CAN'T PROVE 16:38 ANYTHING. 16:40 PHILOSOPHICALLY, YOU CAN'T EVEN PROVE THAT WE'RE SITTING HERE 16:43 AT THIS TABLE. 16:45 WE MAY BE DELUDED. 16:46 WE'RE TAKING IN INFORMATION THROUGH OUR EYES AND IT'S GOING 16:50 TO OUR BRAINS, BUT OUR BRAINS ARE IMPERFECT, SO OUR KNOWLEDGE 16:54 IS IMPERFECT. 16:56 BUT IF WE'RE USING PROOF IN THE SENSE OF EVIDENCE, THERE'S 17:03 TREMENDOUS EVIDENCE FOR GOD, EVIDENCE FROM BIBLE PROPHECY. 17:09 THE HISTORICITY OF THE BIBLE, I BELIEVE, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED. 17:15 DAVE, TREMENDOUS EVIDENCE TODAY FROM ASTRONOMY. 17:21 AMAZING STUFF THAT WE'VE GOT TODAY ON ASTRONOMY, ON HOW, AT 17:28 THE VERY BEGINNING OF CREATION, ASTRONOMERS TODAY BELIEVE NOW 17:32 THAT GENESIS 1:1 IS TRUE. 17:35 THERE WAS A BEGINNING TO THE UNIVERSE. 17:37 ONCE UPON A TIME, ASTRONOMERS BELIEVED IN THE STEADY STATE 17:40 THEORY THAT THERE'D NEVER BEEN A BEGINNING, AND CONSEQUENTLY 17:44 WOULD NEVER BE AN ENDING. 17:47 BUT NOW VIRTUALLY EVERY ASTRONOMER BELIEVES--THEY CALL 17:51 IT THE BIG BANG, THAT SO MANY YEARS AGO THERE WAS NOTHING AND 17:56 THEN THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS BANG AND THE UNIVERSE 17:59 CAME INTO BEING. 18:01 NOW THEY'VE DISCOVERED THIS. 18:05 A MILLISECOND AFTER THE MOMENT OF CREATION, THERE WERE FOUR 18:08 FORCES IN THE UNIVERSE. 18:11 AND IF THOSE FORCES HAD BEEN OUT OF SYNC 18:15 BY ONE QUADRILLIONTH OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH 18:20 OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH 18:23 OF ONE QUADRILLIONTH OF 1%, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. 18:32 THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMEBODY BEHIND ALL OF THIS. 18:36 I BELIEVE TODAY THAT WE CAN GIVE TO HONEST SEEKERS OF THE 18:39 TRUTH OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE WHY THEY CAN BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, 18:44 WHY THEY CAN BELIEVE IN GOD, AND WHY WE CAN KNOW WHERE WE 18:49 CAME FROM, WHY WE ARE HERE, AND WHERE WE ARE GOING. 18:54 THAT'S THE THEME OF MY MEETINGS. 18:57 >> THE CHALLENGE IS TO GET THEM TO LISTEN. 18:59 >> YES. 19:00 SO THAT'S WHY WE USE ARCHAEOLOGY AND ADVERTISE 19:05 THE MEETING ON TELEVISION AND ON RADIO. 19:09 WHEN WE GO TO AFRICA SOON, WE'RE GOING TO BOMBARD 19:14 THE TELEVISION. 19:17 IT'S GOING TO BE BOMBARDED. 19:19 AND THE RADIO IS GOING TO BE BOMBARDED SO THAT WE CAN GET 19:22 VAST CROWDS OF PEOPLE OUT AND LET THEM HEAR THE EVIDENCE. 19:27 >> THIS IS WHY YOU OPEN YOUR MEETINGS IN THE WAY 19:29 THAT YOU DO. 19:30 I MEAN, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT TYPE OF OPENING. 19:32 >> I KNOW, BUT IT'S-- WE REACH SECULAR PEOPLE. 19:38 WHEN WE WERE IN RUSSIA, THERE WAS A MAN FROM WASHINGTON D.C., 19:43 WHO WAS AN AUTHORITY ON HOW CHURCHES GROW. 19:49 HE SAID TO ME, "DO YOU REALIZE THAT THESE ARE THE LARGEST 19:54 CROWDS OF SECULAR, UNBELIEVING PEOPLE ANYWHERE ON THE FACE 20:02 OF THE EARTH?" 20:03 I SAID, "NO, THAT'S NOT SO." 20:05 HE SAID, "NO, WHEN WE HAVE RELIGIOUS PROGRAMS IN AMERICA, 20:08 WHEN WE HAVE CAMPAIGNS, 99% OF THE PEOPLE 20:12 ARE PROFESSING CHRISTIANS. 20:14 AND WE GET THEM TO BRING THEIR FRIENDS." 20:16 I SAID, "WELL, THAT'S GREAT. 20:17 THAT'S WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO." 20:18 BUT HE SAID, "OVER HERE, 99% OF THE PEOPLE IN THESE MEETINGS 20:22 ARE UNBELIEVERS, COMMUNISTS, ATHEISTS, BUT THEY'RE LISTENING 20:28 TO THE WORD OF GOD FROM A DIFFERENT SLANT, 20:31 FROM A DIFFERENT VIEWPOINT." 20:33 >> LET'S FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT IS 20:36 SO INTERESTING TO THEM. 20:37 YOU'VE ALREADY COVERED, AND I'VE WRITTEN IT DOWN HERE, 20:40 YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THE AMAZING DISCOVERIES IN THE LOST CITIES 20:43 OF THE DEAD IN EGYPT. 20:45 I KNOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER TALK THAT YOU GIVE CALLED 20:47 "WONDER CITIES OF THE PAST." 20:50 WHAT'S THAT ABOUT? 20:51 >> WELL, THAT'S ABOUT SOME OF THE WONDER CITIES OF THE PAST. 20:55 THAT'S ABOUT BABYLON AND MEDA-PERSIA, GREECE, AND ROME, 20:59 BUT DAVE, FROM THE VIEWPOINT OF BIBLE PROPHECY. 21:03 NOW TWO AND A HALF THOUSAND YEARS AGO, A YOUNG KING FLUSHED 21:07 WITH SUCCESS HAD A DREAM IN THE CITY OF DREAMS, 21:11 THE CITY OF BABYLON. 21:13 YOU KNOW HIS NAME, NEBUCHADNEZZAR. 21:16 AND HE DREAMED ABOUT A GREAT METAL MAN, HEAD OF GOLD, CHEST 21:19 OF SILVER, BELLY AND THIGHS OF BRONZE, LEGS OF IRON; FEET, 21:22 PART OF IRON, PART OF CLAY. 21:23 AND THEN THERE COMES A TREMENDOUS STONE AND IT CRASHES 21:26 INTO IT AND THE STONE BECOMES A MOUNTAIN AND FILLS 21:29 THE WHOLE EARTH. 21:31 THAT DREAM FORETOLD THE HISTORY OF THE HUMAN RACE. 21:38 AND SO WE OPEN THIS PROGRAM BY TAKING PEOPLE TO BABYLON. 21:43 WE SHOW THEM THE WONDERS OF THE CITY OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR. 21:48 AND THEN WE TAKE THEM INTO THE THRONE ROOM OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR, 21:51 INTO HIS BEDROOM, AND WE PRESENT THE DREAM. 21:55 AND WE SHOW PEOPLE THAT THIS IS A BOOK THAT FORETELLS 22:00 THE FUTURE. 22:02 IT IS NOT AN ORDINARY BOOK. 22:04 IT IS A BOOK THAT TELLS US WHERE WE CAME FROM, WHY WE ARE 22:08 HERE, WHERE WE ARE GOING. 22:11 IT TELLS US THAT WE ARE NOT ZEROS. 22:14 A FRIEND OF MINE, WHO'S A GREAT THEOLOGIAN, SAID, "IF WE 22:17 STARTED WITH A ZERO AND IF WE END WITH A ZERO, EVERYTHING 22:21 IN BETWEEN IS A ZERO. 22:22 NOTHING COUNTS." 22:24 NOW THAT'S WHAT'S TAUGHT AT MOST UNIVERSITIES. 22:30 THAT'S WHAT'S TAUGHT BY VIRTUALLY EVERY PHILOSOPHER. 22:35 THIS IS THE DOCTRINE OF RICHARD DAWKINS. 22:39 WE'VE ALL HEARD OF HIM. 22:41 BUT WE BELIEVE THERE'S EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT GOD MADE US AND WE 22:47 ARE SPECIAL AND MADE IN HIS IMAGE AND THAT THIS BOOK SHOWS 22:51 US THAT JESUS IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. 22:55 AND ONE DAY, WE CAN LIVE FOREVER. 22:57 AND UNTIL WE GET TO HEAVEN, THIS LIFE CAN BE 23:00 MARVELOUSLY TRANSFORMED. 23:03 GOOD NEWS. 23:04 >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BOOK FOR A MOMENT, THE GOOD NEWS 23:07 THAT IS IN THIS BOOK. 23:09 WHAT YOU HAVE JUST STATED ABOUT THE BIBLE, ABOUT GOD'S WORD IS 23:12 VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE WORLD BELIEVES ABOUT 23:16 THIS BOOK, ISN'T IT? 23:17 >> YES. 23:20 SOMEBODY SAID RECENTLY THAT MOST PEOPLE IN THIS PART OF THE 23:26 WORLD, AND CERTAINLY IN EUROPE AND, WELL, VIRTUALLY 23:31 EVERYWHERE, MOST PEOPLE ARE MONUMENTALLY IGNORANT 23:36 CONCERNING WHAT THIS BOOK IS ABOUT. 23:39 HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW ACTUALLY KNOW THE MESSAGE OF 23:44 THIS BOOK OR ACTUALLY READ THIS BOOK? 23:46 NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE. 23:48 AND THIS BOOK HAS BEEN EXPOSED BY THE SCIENTISTS AS BEING 23:54 UNSCIENTIFIC, UNRELIABLE, AND NO LONGER WORTHY 23:59 OF OUR EXPLORATION. 24:01 I DON'T BELIEVE THIS. 24:03 I BELIEVE THAT THE EVIDENCE POINTS TO THE FACT THAT THIS 24:05 BOOK IS THE WORD OF GOD AND IT SHOWS US HOW TO LIVE AND IT 24:10 SHOWS US WHO WE ARE. 24:13 I BELIEVE IT HAS THE ANSWER TO ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS. 24:17 >> JOHN, SO MANY OF US AS CHRISTIANS BELIEVE THE WORDS 24:21 THAT YOU HAVE JUST SPOKEN, THAT THIS BOOK SHOWS US HOW TO LIVE, 24:26 IT SHOWS US WHO WE ARE, AND YET STILL SO MANY CHRISTIANS HAVE 24:30 A HARD TIME OPENING THIS BOOK ON A DAILY BASIS. 24:34 DO YOU? 24:36 DO YOU OPEN THIS EVERY DAY? 24:38 >> BY THE GRACE OF GOD, I HAVE FOR THE LAST, OH, 24:41 FOR THE LAST--LET ME BE ACCURATE ON THIS. 24:45 FOR THE LAST 56 YEARS. 24:48 YOU KNOW WHY? 24:49 >> WHY? 24:50 >> I NEED TO. 24:52 I NEED TO. 24:55 I HAVE A SAYING. 24:56 I'M A PASTOR ALSO AND I TELL PEOPLE, "READ YOUR BIBLE 25:00 EVERY DAY." 25:02 I SAY IT TO THEM BECAUSE IT'S WHAT I DO. 25:06 JOHN NEWTON SAID--YOU KNOW, HE'S THE MAN WHO--ENGLISHMAN 25:09 WHO WROTE "AMAZING GRACE." 25:11 AT THE END OF HIS LIFE, HE SAID, "I HAVE 25:13 TWO GREAT TRUTHS." 25:14 HE SAID, "I AM A GREAT SINNER AND JESUS IS A GREAT SAVIOR." 25:20 BUT I SAID, "I'M A GREAT SINNER. 25:22 JESUS IS A GREAT SAVIOR. 25:24 AND BECAUSE I RECOGNIZE THAT I'M A SINNER, I NEED 25:28 THE WORD OF GOD." 25:30 JESUS SAID, "IT IS WRITTEN MAN SHALL NOT LIVE BY BREAD ALONE, 25:34 BUT BY EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD." 25:37 I READ IT BECAUSE I NEED TO. 25:41 >> PERHAPS FOR THOSE WHO STRUGGLE WITH MAKING TIME IN 25:45 THEIR DAY TO OPEN GOD'S WORD, PERHAPS SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM 25:49 YOU ON HOW TO BEGIN TO WORK THIS INTO THEIR LIFE SO THAT IT 25:53 CAN NOT JUST BECOME A PART OF THEIR LIFE, BUT THEIR LIFE CAN 25:56 BE IN THE BOOK AS WELL. 26:00 >> SOMEBODY SAID, "WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GOOD 26:03 OLD WILLPOWER?" 26:07 THE PERSON MEANT THAT WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING. 26:12 WHEN I WAS A BOY, DAVE, I WAS TAUGHT THE TRUTH 26:15 THAT HABITS ARE FORMED. 26:17 BAD HABITS ARE FORMED AND GOOD HABITS ARE FORMED. 26:21 AND A PERSON HAS TO DEVELOP WILLPOWER TO FORM GOOD HABITS. 26:27 NOW WE ARE SAVED BY FAITH ALONE, BUT THAT THE FAITH 26:30 THAT SAVES IS NEVER ALONE. 26:33 WE ARE SAVED BY FAITH ALONE, BUT THE FAITH THAT SAVES 26:37 IS NEVER ALONE. 26:40 IT IS ACCOMPANIED BY GOOD WORKS, THE FRUITAGE OF FAITH. 26:45 THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FAITH WITHOUT WORKS. 26:48 THE BIBLE SAYS THAT. 26:49 FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD. 26:51 NOW YOU AND I HAVE JUST ENJOYED A MEAL. 26:55 I'VE ALSO HAD BREAKFAST TODAY. 26:57 I HAD MY ROLLED OATS AND MY SOYA MILK AND MY ALMONDS 27:01 AND SOME FRUIT. 27:02 I DID IT BECAUSE I NEED TO STAY ALIVE. 27:05 I NEED TO EAT. 27:06 I'VE GOT TO EAT SO THAT I'M STRONG. 27:10 IF A PERSON WANTS TO BE STRONG SPIRITUALLY, HE'S GOT 27:13 TO EAT THE WORD OF GOD. 27:17 IF YOU DON'T, YOU STARVE TO DEATH. 27:20 AND THAT'S WHAT JESUS TAUGHT. 27:22 AND THERE'S POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD. 27:27 >> THAT BEARS REPEATING BECAUSE THAT IS-- 27:30 >> THERE'S POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD. 27:32 >> IT'S SO OFTEN FORGOTTEN. 27:34 >> I AM--I KNOW THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE I CAN--I'VE SEEN IT. 27:39 EXPLAIN TO ME--I'M STANDING IN FRONT OF 10,000 RUSSIANS 27:44 AT 6 O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING AND THEY ARE ATHEISTS 27:48 AND COMMUNISTS. 27:49 AND THEY'RE SULLEN AND THEIR HEADS ARE DOWN AND THEY WON'T 27:53 LOOK ME IN THE EYE. 27:55 AND AN HOUR LATER, AFTER THIS WORD IS PREACHED TO THEM AND 27:59 THE TEXTS OF THE BIBLE ARE READ WITH POWER AND AUTHORITY, 28:04 AND CHRIST IS UPHELD AND I HAVE AN ALTAR CALL. 28:08 I'LL HAVE VIRTUALLY 10,000 PEOPLE FIGHTING TO GET DOWN THE 28:11 FRONT WITH THEIR FACES LOOKING UP AND TEARS RUNNING DOWN 28:17 THEIR CHEEKS. 28:18 IS THAT BECAUSE OF A MAN? 28:20 NO, BECAUSE THE MAN IS A SINNER. 28:23 AND THERE'S NO GOOD THING IN THAT MAN. 28:25 HE'S GOT NO VIRTUE. 28:26 BUT THERE'S POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD. 28:29 I URGE PEOPLE TO READ THE WORD OF GOD. 28:32 >> IS IT FAIR TO SAY TO THOSE WHO--AND WE HEAR THIS SO OFTEN. 28:36 "I WANT TO KNOW GOD'S WILL FOR MY LIFE." 28:39 IS IT FAIR TO SAY, "WELL, PROBABLY THE FIRST POINT OF 28:43 THAT IS THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO OPEN UP THIS BOOK"? 28:46 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. 28:47 YEAH. 28:48 GOD HAS GIVEN US HIS WILL IN THIS BOOK. 28:53 >> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MEETINGS. 28:56 WHAT'S THE ULTIMATE GOAL IN THE MEETING? >> 28:59 WE START IN OUR MEETINGS GENERALLY WITH SECULAR PEOPLE. 29:04 NO BELIEF SYSTEM. 29:05 OH, THEY DO HAVE A BELIEF SYSTEM. 29:07 THEIR BELIEF SYSTEM SAYS YOU CAN'T BELIEVE ANYTHING. 29:12 WE WANT TO LEAD THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH THAT 29:16 THERE IS A GOD AND THIS GOD LOVES THEM. 29:20 THE GOD WHO MADE THE UNIVERSE IS NOT AN AWFUL PERSON, BUT 29:25 HE'S A PERSON WHO LOVES THEM, WHO CARES FOR THEM. 29:28 HE LOVES THEM SO MUCH, HE GAVE HIS OWN SON TO DIE FOR THEM. 29:32 AND THEN THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETINGS IS TO INTRODUCE THOSE 29:35 PEOPLE TO JESUS. 29:36 AND THEN EVERY MEETING BECOMES A CHRIST-CENTERED MEETING. 29:41 IT'S TO LEAD THEM TO HAVE A SAVING RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST 29:46 THAT'LL MAKE LIFE FOR THEM ON THIS PLANET, RIGHT NOW, 29:49 WONDERFUL BECAUSE JESUS SAID, "I'VE COME THAT THEY MAY 29:52 HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY." 29:55 NIV SAYS, "HAVE IT TO THE FULL." 29:58 AND SO THAT THEY'LL BE BETTER PEOPLE, HAPPIER PEOPLE, 30:01 HEALTHIER PEOPLE, MORE PROSPEROUS PEOPLE. 30:03 AND ULTIMATELY, AT THE END OF THE ROAD, A PLACE WITH CHRIST 30:08 IN AN INDESCRIBABLY WONDERFUL LAND THAT IS CALLED HEAVEN. 30:16 >> IT'S SO GREAT TO SIT DOWN AND TALK WITH YOU AND GET TO 30:18 KNOW YOU BETTER, GET TO KNOW WHAT MOTIVATES YOU AS YOU 30:23 TRAVEL ALL AROUND THE WORLD. 30:26 AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND WE'RE 30:28 GONNA GET BACK THOSE QUESTIONS AS WE CONTINUE WITH A LOOK 30:33 AT THE MAN WHO FIGHTS THE GOOD FIGHT. 30:37 WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT. 30:41 >> HELLO, FRIEND. 30:42 I'M JOHN CARTER OUTSIDE THE THEATRE COMPLEX HERE IN 30:47 BEAUTIFUL JOHANNESBURG, RIGHT HERE IN THE VERY HEART 30:51 OF SOUTH AFRICA. 30:53 THIS IS THE THEATRE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING 30:55 THE MEETINGS. 30:57 WE WANT YOUR PRAYERS BECAUSE THIS GREAT CITY NEEDS THE 31:00 PRAYERS OF THE PEOPLE OF GOD. 31:03 I KNOW THAT TIMES ARE TOUGH. 31:05 I KNOW THE ECONOMY IS NOT THE BEST. 31:07 BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE PROMISES OF GOD ARE JUST 31:11 AS STRONG TODAY AS THEY'VE EVER BEEN. 31:14 AND WHEN THINGS ARE TOUGH, THAT'S WHEN WE SHOULD STEP OUT 31:17 BY FAITH. 31:18 SOME PEOPLE HAVE TOLD US, "DON'T RUN A CAMPAIGN 31:21 IN TOUGH TIMES." 31:22 I WANT TO TELL YOU THIS IS THE TIME TO PREACH THE WORD 31:25 OF GOD AROUND THE WORLD. 31:28 THIS GREAT SERIES IS GOING TO BE TELECAST RIGHT 31:31 AROUND SOUTH AFRICA. 31:33 NOT ONLY SOUTH AFRICA, BUT RIGHT ACROSS THE GREAT 31:36 CONTINENT OF AFRICA, HOME TO A BILLION SOULS. 31:41 WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME, THE TIME IS RIPE TO PREACH THE 31:45 EVERLASTING GOSPEL AS FOUND IN THE GREAT TRUTHS OF THE THREE 31:49 ANGELS' MESSAGES. 31:50 WE BELIEVE THE TIME HAS COME. 31:52 PREACH, PREACH, PREACH. 31:54 PLEASE STAND WITH US IN THIS GREAT AND THIS GLORIOUS WORK. 31:58 PLEASE WRITE TO ME TODAY, JOHN CARTER, 32:02 POST OFFICE BOX 1900, THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA, 32:06 91358. 32:08 IN AUSTRALIA, WRITE TO ME, PLEASE, AT TERRIGAL. 32:11 PRAY FOR SOUTH AFRICA. 32:13 PRAY FOR THE TELECAST. 32:15 PRAY FOR THE PREACHING OF THE WORD OF GOD IN THIS TREMENDOUS 32:19 HOUR IN THIS WONDERFUL COUNTRY. 32:22 WE'LL BE PRAYING FOR YOU. 32:24 PLEASE PRAY FOR US AS WE STEP OUT BY FAITH RIGHT HERE IN 32:29 AFRICA. 32:31 [MUSIC] 32:44 >> WELCOME BACK TO "THE CARTER REPORT." 32:45 I'M DAVE DENO, AND TODAY THE TOPIC IS, YOU MIGHT SAY, 32:49 THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD OR "FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT." 32:53 AND THAT IS SIMPLY THAT WE'RE TALKING WITH JOHN CARTER, 32:55 PASTOR JOHN CARTER, ABOUT HIMSELF, ABOUT THE FOUNDING 32:59 OF "THE CARTER REPORT," ABOUT HIS OWN FAITH. 33:03 AND WE'RE GONNA TALK VERY SPECIFICALLY ABOUT JOHN'S FAITH 33:07 IN JUST A MOMENT. 33:08 BUT JOHN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THESE MEETINGS TODAY THAT YOU 33:11 HAVE HELD AROUND THE WORLD, AND I'D LIKE TO GET A BETTER 33:13 FEEL FOR HOW FAR AND WIDE YOU HAVE TRAVELED. 33:17 WHAT CITIES HAVE YOU GONE TO? 33:20 >> I WAS BORN IN BRED IN AUSTRALIA AND SO I RAN 33:23 CAMPAIGNS UP AND DOWN THE EAST COAST, BUT SPECIFICALLY 33:29 MELBOURNE AND SYDNEY. 33:31 THEN I MOVED TO THE UNITED STATES, 33:33 WENT TO DALLAS/FORT WORTH, TO TEXAS, THE GREAT STATE 33:38 OF TEXAS, WHICH I LOVED. 33:41 OVER HERE TO LOS ANGELES WITH ITS TEEMING MILLIONS, EVERYBODY 33:45 ON THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME. 33:48 RAN A CAMPAIGN DOWNTOWN IN THE GREAT SHRINE AUDITORIUM, 33:52 HOME OF THE ACADEMY AWARDS. 33:55 AND THEN TO THE GREAT CITIES OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION, 33:59 MOSCOW, ST. PETERSBURG, IRKUTSK IN SIBERIA, NIZHNY NOVGOROD, 34:06 THE OLD CITY OF GORKY, DZERJINSK, FOUNDED AFTER 34:10 THE FOUNDER OF THE KGB. 34:13 UKRAINE, KIEV, THE CAPITAL OF UKRAINE. 34:18 OTHER PLACES WITH FAR, WAY OUT NAMES LIKE NYAZEPETROVSK, 34:24 HOROKIV, ZAPORIZHIA, ODESSA, INDIA, AFRICA. 34:35 NOT EVERYWHERE, BUT WE'VE HELD MEETINGS IN ASIA 34:40 AND THE PHILIPPINES, MANILA. 34:42 BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, DAVE, YOU GOT TO REALIZE I'M A CHURCH 34:46 PASTOR AND I DO THE REST OF THIS STUFF AS MY--I'VE DONE 34:52 THIS FOR MANY YEARS DURING MY VACATIONS. 34:56 SO I'M A PASTOR AND I'VE LOOKED AFTER A CHURCH FOR, I DON'T 34:59 KNOW, FOR ABOUT 48 YEARS. 35:02 IT'S A LONG TIME. 35:03 BUT I HAVE A CALL FROM GOD TO PREACH THE WORD. 35:07 >> I WOULD IMAGINE YOU HAVE A SUITCASE WITH A LOT OF 35:10 DIFFERENT STICKERS ON IT, SO TO SPEAK, FROM DIFFERENT PLACES 35:13 IN THE WORLD. 35:14 BUT THERE'S ONE THAT YOU GET TO ADD VERY SOON AND THAT 35:18 IS SOUTH AFRICA. 35:20 >> SOUTH AFRICA. 35:21 >> YOU'RE GOING TO SOUTH AFRICA? 35:23 TELL US ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THERE. 35:25 >> JUST CAME BACK FROM SOUTH AFRICA. 35:27 WENT OVER THERE TO HAVE A PRELIMINARY LOOK. 35:30 WE'RE INVITED THERE, DAVE, BY A WONDERFUL GROUP OF CHRISTIANS 35:35 WHO WANT TO SEE THE WORD OF GOD PREACHED WITH POWER. 35:38 WE'RE GOING TO RUN A BIG CAMPAIGN WITH THEIR BLESSING 35:41 AND THEIR SUPPORT, THEIR COOPERATION, IN THE GREAT CITY 35:44 OF JOHANNESBURG. 35:46 AND THIS IS GOING TO BE PICKED UP BY TELEVISION, BROADCAST 35:51 NIGHTLY RIGHT THROUGHOUT SOUTH AFRICA. 35:54 AND I'M TOLD RIGHT THROUGHOUT AFRICA ITSELF. 35:57 AND YOU HAVE A BILLION PEOPLE IN AFRICA. 36:00 >> WHAT IS THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE GOSPEL LIKE IN THIS PORTION 36:04 OF THE WORLD? 36:05 >> MANY PEOPLE IN SOUTH AFRICA ARE SOMEWHAT RELIGIOUS, 36:09 MORE RELIGIOUS I THINK THAN HERE IN THE GREAT LAND 36:11 OF THE UNITED STATES. 36:12 >> REALLY? 36:13 >> BUT WHILE WE WERE THERE, DAVE, JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, 36:16 I PREACHED 20 TIMES. 36:18 JOHANNESBURG, CAPE TOWN, PORT ELIZABETH, 36:21 AND THEN DURBAN. 36:22 I PREACHED TO A VAST CROWD OF ZULUS IN DURBAN. 36:26 WOW, I'VE NEVER PREACHED TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT. 36:29 AS YOU'RE PREACHING, THEY'RE CALLING OUT, "COME ON NOW. 36:32 COME ON NOW. 36:33 YES, SIR. 36:34 YES, SIR. 36:35 COME ON NOW." 36:37 AND THE ZULUS HAVE GOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT 36:39 TO ANYBODY ELSE. 36:41 IT'S GOOD FOR PREACHING. 36:43 >> I'M SMILING BECAUSE I'M THINKING OF THE CONTRAST 36:45 BETWEEN AN AUDIENCE LIKE THAT THAT IS ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING 36:49 WITH YOU AND SOME OF THE AUDIENCES WE HAVE HERE. 36:53 >> I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN I COME BACK HERE AND PREACH HERE, 36:56 YOU WONDER WHO--YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? 36:59 WELL, APPARENTLY NOT A LOT. 37:00 BUT OVER THERE, THE PEOPLE DO HAVE A FERVENCY AND THEY HAVE 37:05 EMOTIONS FOR WHAT THEY BELIEVE. 37:06 BUT THESE PEOPLE, BEAUTIFULLY DRESSED, CULTURED, 37:10 NICELY SPOKEN. 37:12 >> WHAT'S YOUR GOAL? 37:13 WHAT'S YOUR OBJECTIVE FOR SOUTH AFRICA? 37:16 OBVIOUSLY WE BOTH KNOW YOU WANT TO BRING PEOPLE TO CHRIST. 37:19 >> I WANT TO--WELL, THAT'S--WHAT MORE CAN ONE DO? 37:24 I HAVE A DESIRE TO WIN PEOPLE TO CHRIST. 37:28 I WANT TO SEE THOSE PEOPLE SAVED IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 37:31 THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE, DAVE, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO CHRIST. 37:34 HEAVEN IS NOT JUST SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE, 37:37 BUT HEAVEN STARTS NOW. 37:39 AND IN SOUTH AFRICA, YOU HAVE TREMENDOUS PROBLEMS, 37:42 25% OR 26% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE GOT AIDS. 37:46 THINK OF THE SOCIAL PROBLEM. 37:48 A QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE HAVE GOT AIDS. 37:50 THEREFORE, THEY'VE GOT A DEATH SENTENCE. 37:53 YOU'VE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CRIME. 37:55 EVERY HOME IN SOUTH AFRICA, AT LEAST IN JOHANNESBURG, 37:58 IS SURROUNDED BY ELECTRIC WIRE. 38:01 >> WAIT A MINUTE, EVERY HOME? 38:03 >> EVERY HOME I SAW. 38:05 EVERY DECENT HOME. 38:06 >> WHY? 38:07 >> BECAUSE OF CRIME. 38:10 >> AMAZING. 38:12 >> YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS DISPARITY. 38:15 YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY WEALTHY, PEOPLE WHO ARE 38:18 VERY POOR. 38:19 YOU'VE GOT SHANTYTOWNS. 38:21 NOW I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A HEAVEN TO COME. 38:23 I BELIEVE THIS. 38:24 BUT I BELIEVE ALSO THAT THE PREACHING OF CHRIST AND THE 38:26 PREACHING OF THE GREAT TRUTHS OF THE BIBLE ELEVATES SOCIETY. 38:30 I WANT TO PEOPLE--I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE LIFTED UP. 38:34 I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE WHO WERE SUFFERING IN SICKNESS 38:38 AND DISEASE, I WANT THEM TO BE HEALED. 38:42 I WANT THEM TO SEE THAT THERE'S A BETTER WORLD. 38:45 I WANT TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE, BROWN PEOPLE, AND WHITE PEOPLE 38:50 REALIZE THAT LIFE CAN BE GOOD. 38:53 I WANT TO SEE HOPE COME BACK INTO THEIR EYES. 38:57 THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE WE ARE CALLED TO DO. 39:00 THIS IS THE GOSPEL. 39:02 MEANS GOOD NEWS. 39:04 >> DO YOU FACE ANY CHALLENGES AS YOU GO TO SOUTH AFRICA? 39:07 [LAUGHING] HAVE I FACED ANY CHALLENGES? 39:11 I'VE SPENT MY LIFE FACING CHALLENGES AND OPPOSITION. 39:17 GRAEME BRADFORD IS AN OLD BUDDY OF MINE BACK IN AUSTRALIA. 39:20 HE SAYS, "YOU OUGHT TO WRITE A BOOK." 39:22 HE SAID, "NOBODY WOULD PUBLISH IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE 39:25 TOO POLITICALLY INCORRECT." 39:29 WE HAVE RECEIVED TREMENDOUS OPPOSITION AND FROM PEOPLE 39:34 WHO SHOULD BE SUPPORTING. 39:37 BUT IN SOUTH AFRICA, DO WE EXPECT OPPOSITION? 39:40 YEAH, IT ALWAYS HAPPENS. 39:42 HAPPENED IN KIEV, WHERE THE PRELATE SAID, 39:45 "YOU'LL COME INTO THIS CITY ONLY OVER MY DEAD BODY," 39:49 BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY. 39:51 >> JOHN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE NUTS AND BOLTS, THE PRACTICAL 39:53 ASPECTS OF A CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS. 39:56 HOW IS A CAMPAIGN LIKE THIS FINANCED? 40:01 >> IT'S AMAZING. 40:02 IT'S THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME, BUT THE PEOPLE 40:05 WHERE I'M GOING ARE HELPING. 40:10 A WONDERFUL GROUP OF COMMITTED CHRISTIANS, AND THEY'VE GOT 40:13 TOGETHER AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, THEY'RE RAISING MONEY. 40:17 BUT OF COURSE, I'M RAISING MONEY TOO. 40:20 EVERY TIME I'VE GONE TO RUSSIA OR TO INDIA OR THE PHILIPPINES 40:26 OR JAMAICA OR EVEN HERE IN LOS ANGELES NOW, WE RAISE 40:32 THE MONEY OURSELVES. 40:34 WE DON'T HAVE A CHURCH ORGANIZATION STANDING BEHIND US 40:36 AND SAYING, "HEY, WE WANT YOU TO DO THE PREACHING AND WE'RE 40:41 GONNA PAY FOR THE BILLS." 40:42 THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN. 40:44 WE RAISE THE MONEY WITH THE PEOPLE OF GOD. 40:48 AND OUT THERE WE'VE GOT LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE 40:51 AS WE BELIEVE. 40:53 >> BUT A PERSON WATCHING US TALKING NOW ABOUT 40:57 SOUTH AFRICA-- >> YES. 40:59 >> HALF A WORLD AWAY. 41:01 WHY SHOULD THEY CARE? 41:03 WHY SHOULD THEY CARE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY GIVE SOMETHING 41:07 TO HELP? 41:08 >> THE SAME REASON THAT I'M GOING. 41:11 THE SAME REASON I'M GOING. 41:14 EVERY PERSON, DAVE, WHO'S BORN INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS BORN 41:18 AS A MISSIONARY. 41:20 THE BIGGEST PROBLEM TODAY IN THE CHURCH IS INTROVERSION 41:26 AND SELFISHNESS. 41:27 WE HAVE A RELIGION OF ME, ME, ME, ME. 41:32 IT'S PSYCHOLOGICALLY SICK. 41:36 IT'S NOT GOOD. 41:39 JESUS TOLD US TO LOOK OUT. 41:42 NOT JUST LOOK OUT FOR OURSELVES EITHER, BUT TO LOOK OUT 41:46 TO THE WORLD. 41:47 THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE REACHING OUT 41:50 FOR OTHERS. 41:51 I'VE GOT LOTS AND LOTS OF WONDERFUL FRIENDS AROUND THE 41:54 WORLD HAVE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY. 41:56 JESUS SAID, "IT IS MORE BLESSED TO GIVE--" I PREACHED THIS 41:59 ABOUT SABBATH, "MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE." 42:02 WE HAVE A SOCIETY THAT SAYS, "IT'S MORE BLESSED TO RECEIVE 42:05 THAN TO GIVE." 42:06 AND WE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO GIVE TO US ALL THE TIME. 42:09 SO, THE GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME LIKE OUR GOD. 42:12 THE GOVERNMENT BAILS US OUT, TAKES CARE OF US 42:14 FOR EVERYTHING. 42:15 BUT JESUS SAID, "IT'S MORE BLESSED TO GIVE THAN 42:18 TO RECEIVE." 42:19 NOW JESUS SAID--NOW EITHER WE TAKE THE WORDS OF JESUS 42:23 SERIOUSLY OR ELSE WE JUST STOP TALKING. 42:27 IF I'M GOING TO BE A CHRISTIAN, IF I'M GOING TO FOLLOW 42:32 MY BIBLE, I NEED TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY. 42:37 I TAKE THE WORD OF GOD SERIOUSLY. 42:40 JESUS SAID, "GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PREACH THE GOSPEL." 42:45 THAT'S WHAT I STAND FOR, THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE 42:48 BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE BIBLE. 42:51 >> YOU KNOW, JOHN, YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEING MORE BLESSED TO 42:53 GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE. 42:55 AND I WOULD CONTEND THAT IT IS ALSO MORE JOYFUL TO GIVE THAN 43:00 TO RECEIVE, THAT YOU ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE MORE JOY IN THE 43:04 GIVING THAN IN THE RECEIVING. 43:07 BUT WE AS AMERICANS PARTICULARLY, BECAUSE WE HAVE 43:10 BEEN GIVEN SO MUCH, LITTLE BY LITTLE BY LITTLE WE TEND TO 43:15 KEEP IT FOR OURSELVES. 43:17 AND WHAT YOU AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CHANGING THAT--THE OLD 43:23 BIBLICAL WORD, "REPENT," THAT IS, TURN AROUND 43:26 AND GO A DIFFERENT WAY. 43:27 AND INSTEAD OF KEEPING LITTLE BY LITTLE, WHY NOT TURN AROUND 43:32 AND START GIVING A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE, A LITTLE MORE, 43:37 AND LEARN THE JOY OF GIVING, LEARN THE JOY 43:41 OF BEING INVOLVED? 43:42 >> I KNOW. 43:44 I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, DAVE. 43:47 I MUST SAY THAT I HAVE FOUND IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD SOME OF 43:50 THE MOST GENEROUS PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. 43:54 I'VE GOT FRIENDS, I SHOULDN'T MENTION THEM BY NAME, THEY'LL 43:57 BE EMBARRASSED, BUT I'VE GOT FRIENDS THERE IN TENNESSEE, 44:00 PAM AND JIMMY. 44:01 AND I'VE GOT OTHER FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD, 44:04 FRIENDS IN AUSTRALIA. 44:08 AND THEY ARE MOTIVATED TO PREACH CHRIST AND BRING 44:12 SALVATION TO PEOPLE. 44:13 AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, THEY'RE THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE 44:17 IN THE WORLD. 44:18 >> THEY ARE. 44:19 >> THE SADDEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE THE PEOPLE 44:20 WHO LIVE FOR THEMSELVES. 44:22 THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO BROUGHT THE GREAT CRISIS UPON AMERICA 44:24 BECAUSE OF THEIR LUST AND THEIR GREED. 44:28 YOU KNOW, WE KNOW ALL ABOUT THESE PEOPLE FROM WALL STREET, 44:30 HOW THEY JUST ABOUT BROUGHT THE WORLD DOWN, CAUSED THE DEATHS 44:34 OF MILLIONS OF LITTLE CHILDREN. 44:37 THEY DID CAUSE THE DEATHS OF MILLIONS OF LITTLE CHILDREN 44:39 IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. 44:41 BUT THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE, DAVE, THAT I'VE MET ANYWHERE 44:44 IN THE WORLD ARE PEOPLE WHO GIVE FOR OTHERS. 44:46 AND THE BEST GIFT YOU CAN GIVE IS THE GIFT OF CHRIST. 44:51 >> JOHN, AS A PASTOR AND AS AN EVANGELIST, YOU BRING A MESSAGE 44:55 THAT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO HEAR. 44:57 YOU STATED A MOMENT AGO THAT IN YOUR LIFE, YOU HAVE FACED 45:02 A GREAT DEAL OF OPPOSITION. 45:03 EVER HAVE ANY REGRETS ABOUT BECOMING A PASTOR 45:06 OR AN EVANGELIST? 45:07 >> OH, DURING THE OPPOSITION I'VE HAD SOME REGRETS. 45:13 NOBODY LIKES OPPOSITION. 45:15 NOBODY LIKES TO BE ATTACKED. 45:18 WHEN THE ATTACKS GO ON MONTH AFTER MONTH, YEAR AFTER YEAR, 45:22 AND THEY BECOME PERSONAL, NOBODY LIKES THAT. 45:26 BUT GOD HAS BLESSED ME. 45:29 I DO NOT REGRET FOR A MOMENT THE MOMENT I GAVE MY LIFE 45:34 TO CHRIST. 45:36 >> TELL ME ABOUT THAT. 45:38 >> OH, I WAS JUST A BOY GOING TO AVONDALE COLLEGE AND A FRIEND 45:42 OF MINE, A DEAR FRIEND, TOM LUDOWICI, HE WAS--SAW HIM 45:46 OVER THERE AT AVONDALE A FEW WEEKS AGO. 45:49 LOVE THE LUDOWICIS, LOVE ALL THOSE PEOPLE. 45:52 HE GENTLY LED ME HOME. 45:55 HE SHARED CHRIST WITH ME. 45:57 HE TOOK AN INTEREST IN ME. 45:59 I BECAME APPARENTLY HIS MISSIONARY PROJECT. 46:03 AND SO HE SOUGHT ME OUT. 46:06 HE WAS KIND TO ME. 46:07 HE HELPED ME TO UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE OF SALVATION. 46:11 I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY CARED FOR ME. 46:14 WHEN I WAS A BABY, MY MOTHER WHO WAS NOT A CHURCH MEMBER OF 46:19 ANY CHURCH DEDICATED ME TO GOD FOR THE WORK OF THE MINISTRY, 46:26 SOLEMNLY DEDICATED ME TO GOD. 46:28 SHE SAID, "THIS BABY IS GOING TO BE USED BY YOU, GOD." 46:34 SHE ONLY TOLD ME THAT WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE. 46:37 SO, I'VE HAD A CALLING FROM GOD. 46:41 I HAVE BEEN BLESSED. 46:42 I HAVE SEEN THE GLORY OF GOD. 46:43 I'VE SEEN TENS OF THOUSANDS, OVER AND OVER AND OVER, HUGE 46:48 NUMBERS OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME TO CHRIST AND BE BORN AGAIN. 46:53 I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS. 46:55 I HAVE MY SON WORKING IN THE MINISTRY, MY WIFE. 46:59 I HAVE WONDERFUL FRIENDS HERE AT "THE CARTER REPORT." 47:02 I HAVE FRIENDS IN AUSTRALIA, FRIENDS AROUND THE WORLD. 47:05 NOW I'VE GOT FRIENDS IN SOUTH AFRICA. 47:08 I REGRET THIS? 47:10 HEY, THE PERSECUTION HAS COME FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE SO 47:12 INSECURE THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THE GOSPEL TO BE PREACHED. 47:16 WE SHOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE THAT. 47:20 WE JUST OUGHT TO GO AHEAD AND DO WHAT GOD TELLS US TO DO. 47:24 >> JOHN, AS A PARENT, I AM ACUTELY AWARE OF THE NEED TO 47:29 INVEST MYSELF INTO MY CHILDREN. 47:33 AS A PASTOR, I KNOW THAT YOU FEEL A VERY STRONG DESIRE 47:38 TO INVEST YOURSELF INTO THE LIVES OF PEOPLE. 47:43 AND YOU TALK ABOUT MASSES OF PEOPLE, TENS OF THOUSANDS, 47:47 AND YET I KNOW YOU THINK OF THEM AS INDIVIDUALS AS WELL. 47:50 >> I'VE BEEN TO RUSSIA 40 TIMES IN 20 YEARS, 20 TIMES TO RUN 47:57 BIG CAMPAIGNS AND 20 TIMES TO FOLLOW UP. 48:02 I'VE HAD A POLICY NOW FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 20 YEARS. 48:07 I'VE GONE BACK EVERY YEAR TO THE PLACES WHERE I'VE PREACHED 48:10 THE WORD. 48:13 AFTER RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN IN VOLGOGRAD, 48:15 WENT BACK TO VOLGOGRAD. 48:17 AFTER THE CAMPAIGN IN KAZAN WHERE WE HAD THE FIRST BIG 48:21 CAMPAIGN IN A MUSLIM CITY AND BAPTIZED HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE 48:24 IN FRONT OF THE MOSQUE, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 48:27 IT CAN'T BE DONE. 48:28 IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 48:30 AND THESE THINGS CAN'T BE DONE BECAUSE WE THINK THEY 48:32 CAN'T BE DONE. 48:35 AND TOO MANY CHURCH COMMITTEES STOP MORE THAN THEY ALLOW TO 48:39 HAPPEN. 48:42 THIS IS A STORY OF HIERARCHIES AND COMMITTEES. 48:45 THEY'RE LIKE WET BLANKETS, THEY STOP THINGS. 48:48 BUT I'VE GONE BACK TO THOSE CHURCHES. 48:51 I'VE GONE BACK TO NIZHNY NOVGOROD. 48:54 I'VE GONE BACK TO NIZHNY I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES, 48:57 BUT I GO BACK THERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE 49:02 TO PREACH THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST AND WALK AWAY FROM IT. 49:08 WHEN I READ THE BIBLE, PAUL WENT BACK TIME AFTER TIME. 49:11 WE HAVE THE SAME POLICY. 49:17 >> WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE MEETINGS YOU HAVE LED. 49:20 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT YOU COMING TO CHRIST. 49:24 A PERSON WATCHING AT HOME MAY THINK, "WELL, 49:27 THAT'S JOHN CARTER. 49:29 SOMEHOW HE LED A SO-CALLED CHARMED LIFE, BUT THAT'S 49:35 NOT FOR ME." 49:36 I MEAN-- >> A BLESSED LIFE, 49:38 BUT NOT A CHARMED LIFE. 49:41 >> BUT DO YOU EVER HAVE DOWN MOMENTS? 49:44 MOMENTS OF DOUBT? 49:46 >> NOT MOMENTS OF DOUBT, BUT I DO HAVE DOWN MOMENTS. 49:50 I BELIEVE THAT I AM BUFFETED BY SATAN. 49:57 THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I HAVE GRAPPLED WITH THE FORCES 50:00 OF DARKNESS, ESPECIALLY JUST BEFORE A BIG CAMPAIGN. 50:06 AND OFTEN AFTER A BIG CAMPAIGN WHEN I'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING, 50:09 THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANYTHING LEFT IN ME. 50:12 WHEN THE OPPOSITION IS TREMENDOUS, WHEN WE'RE FINDING 50:17 IT HARD TO PAY THE BILLS AND RAISE THE MONEY BECAUSE WHEN WE 50:21 START CAMPAIGNS, USUALLY WE DON'T START WITH THE BUDGET. 50:25 WE GO AHEAD AND START SPENDING AND PRAY THAT THE MONEY'S 50:28 GOING TO COME. 50:30 NOW WHEN IT COMES, EVERYBODY IS HAPPY. 50:35 AND IT'S NEVER FAILED YET. 50:37 SOME PEOPLE SAY, "WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T COME?" 50:40 WELL, IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THAT. 50:42 WE BELIEVE IN THE GOD OF THE BIBLE. 50:46 YEAH, I HAVE UP DAYS AND I HAVE DOWN DAYS. 50:50 BUT THANK GOD MY ACCEPTANCE WITH CHRIST DOESN'T DEPEND 50:54 UPON HOW I FEEL. 50:56 IT DEPENDS UPON HIS LOVE AND HIS GOODNESS. 50:59 >> GOD HAS GIVEN YOU A WONDERFUL HELP MATE 51:02 IN YOUR LIFE AS WELL. 51:03 >> MM-HMM, YES. 51:05 >> AND I'M SURE THAT SHE IS A GREAT ENCOURAGEMENT TO YOU AND 51:07 INDEED A BALM IN TIMES OF PAIN. 51:11 >> SHE LOVES EVANGELISM AND SHE HAS A BURDEN FOR SOULS. 51:18 THIS WORK, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, DAVE, ENTAILS A LOT 51:21 OF HARD WORK. 51:23 AND THE REASON MORE PEOPLE DON'T DO IT TODAY IS BECAUSE 51:26 A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE HARD WORK. 51:29 THAT'S ONE REASON SOME PASTORS DON'T LIKE DOING IT. 51:32 THEY SAY, "OH, NOT FOR ME, NOT FOR ME." 51:35 BUT IT'S NOT AN OPTION AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED. 51:38 IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR ANY CHRISTIAN. 51:40 SOME PEOPLE COME TO ME AND THEY SAY, "WELL, YOU KNOW, 51:42 YOU WERE CALLED TO DO THAT. 51:44 WE'RE NOT CALLED TO DO IT." 51:45 I SAY, "NO, NO, NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE. 51:47 DON'T TELL ME THAT. 51:48 WE'RE ALL CALLED TO IT." 51:49 BUT SOME HAVE SAID YES AND SOME HAVE SAID NO. 51:52 SO, WE'RE ALL CALLED TO BE AMBASSADORS FOR CHRIST AND TO 51:57 ENDEAVOR BY THE GRACE OF GOD TO REACH THE LOST FOR CHRIST. 52:01 >> YOU HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT HEAVEN. 52:03 WHAT'S YOUR CONCEPT OF HEAVEN? 52:05 >> OH, HEAVEN TO ME IS GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL, 52:07 WONDERFUL PLACE. 52:08 AS YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED-- WELL, YOU DON'T KNOW. 52:10 BUT I'M INTERESTED IN ASTRONOMY. 52:12 I LOVE STUDYING THE STARS. 52:14 I'VE DONE A LITTLE--NOT A LOT, YOU KNOW. 52:18 I'M NOT AN ASTRONOMER, BUT I'VE DONE SOME STUDY OF THE 52:20 PHENOMENON THAT ASTRONOMERS NOW CALL THE BIG BANG. 52:26 YOU DON'T HAVE TO CALL IT THE BIG BANG. 52:28 THE BIBLE SAYS, "IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED 52:30 THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH." 52:31 AND NOW WITH THE HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE WE CAN LOOK BACK TO 52:36 THE--ALMOST TO THE BEGINNING OF TIME. 52:41 I BELIEVE THAT HEAVEN'S GOING TO BE A MILLION TIMES BETTER 52:46 THAN WE CAN COMPREHEND. 52:48 I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE--WELL, FIGURATIVELY 52:52 SPEAKING, I GUESS, STREETS OF GOLD AND ALL OF THAT. 52:58 BUT THE BEST PART ABOUT HEAVEN, I THINK, IS GOING TO BE THAT 53:01 JESUS IS GOING TO BE THERE. 53:03 THE CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE IS GONNA BE THERE. 53:07 THE ONE WHO'S GOT MARKS IN HIS HANDS BECAUSE OF THE NAILS, 53:13 HE'S GONNA BE THERE. 53:15 AND FRIENDS ARE GONNA BE THERE. 53:18 I HEARD THE GAITHERS SING A SONG--OR NOT THE GAITHERS, 53:20 BUT SOME OF THEIR GROUP SAYING, "KNOWING YOU'LL BE THERE MAKES 53:24 IT EASY TO GO HOME." 53:26 YOU KNOW THE SONG? 53:28 >> MM-HMM. 53:29 >> KNOWING YOU'LL BE THERE MAKES IT EASY TO GO HOME. 53:34 I'M GONNA HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS IN HEAVEN. 53:38 WE'RE ALL GONNA GET OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND WE'RE GONNA 53:41 HAVE NICE LITTLE PLACES-- NO, NICE BIG PLACES. 53:44 WE'RE GONNA HAVE HORSES AND COWS AND LIONS AND LOTS 53:48 OF FRIENDS. 53:50 IT'S GONNA BE WONDERFUL. 53:52 AND THE BEST PART OF IT IS JESUS IS GONNA BE THERE. 53:56 >> WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL TIME OF VISITING AND TALKING ABOUT 54:00 YOUR LIFE, YOUR TRAVELS, SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS, YOUR VIEWS. 54:07 LET'S TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE, GOD WILLING, WHAT YOU SEE 54:13 IN THE YEARS AHEAD. 54:14 WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH? 54:16 WHAT DO YOU FEEL LED TO ACCOMPLISH? 54:18 >> WELL, I'D LIKE TO GO HEAVEN. 54:21 >> YOU SOUND LIKE PAUL. 54:24 >> I WOULD VERY--I'D BE VERY HAPPY, AS PAUL SAID, TO DEPART 54:27 AND BE WITH CHRIST. 54:28 HE SAID THAT IN PHILIPPIANS, YOU KNOW. 54:31 I WOULD LOVE TO GO HOME TO GLORY. 54:35 I'D LIKE TO BE--I BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION. 54:38 I WOULD LIKE TO BE RESURRECTED OR TRANSLATED, GO HOME 54:41 TO GLORY. 54:45 I WANT TO KEEP GOING AS LONG AS GOD GIVES ME STRENGTH. 54:49 NOW I EXERCISE AND WORKOUT EVERY DAY. 54:52 I'M PRETTY CAREFUL--OH, WELL, I'M VERY CAREFUL WITH 54:54 WHAT I EAT. 54:56 I WANT TO KEEP ON DOING WHAT GOD WANTS ME TO DO. 55:00 I'D RATHER WEAR OUT THAN RUST OUT. 55:03 A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, RUST OUT. 55:05 AND AS THEY RUST OUT, YOU CAN HEAR THEM RUSTING. 55:10 YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR THEM GROANING AND MOANING. 55:16 I WANT TO BE LIKE JOHN WESLEY AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHO 55:19 WILL KEEP ON PREACHING WHILE THE LIGHT IS STILL BURNING. 55:24 THE LAST NIGHT OF JOHN WESLEY'S LIFE, HE HELD UP A CANDLE. 55:27 HE HAD A CROWD OF PEOPLE THERE AND THEY WOULDN'T LET HIM GO 55:29 TO BED. 55:30 HE HELD UP THE CANDLE AND HE PREACHED UNTIL THE CANDLE 55:33 BURNED RIGHT DOWN. 55:35 AND WHEN THE CANDLE WENT OUT, JOHN WESLEY WENT UP TO BED 55:39 AND WENT TO SLEEP, FELL ASLEEP IN CHRIST. 55:43 IT'S A GOOD WAY FOR A MINISTER TO DIE, HOLDING UP THE CANDLE, 55:48 PREACHING THE GOSPEL. 55:51 >> WELL, THE DESIRE, I WOULD SAY, NOT JUST FOR MYSELF, BUT 55:55 FOR SO MANY WHO ARE WATCHING TODAY, IS TO HELP YOU 55:59 TO HOLD UP THAT CANDLE. 56:00 >> WELL, I'D LIKE THEM TO. 56:03 >> AND I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL WRITE TO YOU. 56:05 I KNOW YOU LOVE TO RECEIVE PEOPLE'S LETTERS, DON'T YOU? 56:08 >> I SURE DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY PUT A CHECK IN IT TO HOLD 56:11 UP THE CANDLE. 56:14 >> AND THAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL WAY TO HELP YOU DO THAT. 56:16 >> AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING REALITY HERE. 56:19 >> I ENCOURAGE YOU TO WRITE TO JOHN AND TO HELP HIM HOLD UP 56:22 THAT CANDLE, TO BE A PART OF HIS MINISTRY, TO BE A SUPPORT 56:27 PARTNER IN THE MINISTRY. 56:29 YOU CAN DO SO BY WRITING TO JOHN HERE AT THE CARTER REPORT 56:33 AT P.O. BOX 1900, THOUSAND OAKS, CALIFORNIA 91358. 56:42 IN AUSTRALIA, WRITE TO THE CARTER REPORT AT TERRIGAL, 56:47 NEW SOUTH WALES. 56:49 THE BOX NUMBER IS ON YOUR SCREEN. 56:52 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING A PART OF OUR CHAT TODAY. 56:54 JOHN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR HEART TODAY. 56:57 >> NOW DAVE, THANK YOU. 56:58 THANK YOU SO MUCH. 56:59 >> JOIN US AGAIN FOR THE NEXT "CARTER REPORT." 57:05 [MUSIC] 57:19 ♪ THERE IS NO PROBLEM TOO BIG ♪ ♪ GOD CANNOT SOLVE IT. ♪ 57:29 ♪ THERE IS NO MOUNTAIN TOO ♪ ♪ TALL HE CANNOT MOVE IT ♪ 57:39 ♪ THERE IS NO STORM TOO DARK ♪ ♪ GOD CANNOT CALM IT. ♪ 57:48 ♪ THERE IS NO SORROW TOO DEEP ♪ ♪ HE CANNOT SOOTHE IT. ♪ 57:56 ♪ IF HE CARRIED THE WEIGHT ♪♪ |
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