Participants: Pr. John Carter (Host), Don Johnson
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001504A
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00:10 "The Living Word" around the world.
00:16 Hello, friend, I'm John Carter. 00:19 Welcome today to the "Carter Report." 00:21 Our program today has got mighty power in it, 00:25 because we're talking about the greatest hoax 00:28 that has ever been perpetrated upon the human race. 00:31 We're talking about "The Death of Darwinism." 00:35 Our special guest today is Dr. Don Johnson, 00:39 who has two PhD's, one in chemistry 00:43 and one in computer information science. 00:46 He has these doctorates 00:47 from two great American universities, 00:51 from Michigan State University that has 50,000 students 00:56 and from Minnesota University 01:00 that has more then 50,000 students. 01:04 He is a scientist and we're talking 01:07 about the truths that will set you free. 01:11 Welcome today to the "Carter Report". 01:16 Hi, I'm John Carter. 01:19 I guess the toughest place that I've ever been to 01:22 as far as preaching of the gospel is concerned 01:25 is India, home to more than a billion souls. 01:30 And I guess, hundreds of millions of different Gods. 01:35 It almost overwhelms the senses. 01:38 What can we do? 01:40 Well, we've been to India, we've run outdoor meetings. 01:43 We've had thousands and thousands of people, 01:46 Hindus, Muslims at our meetings coming forth in altar calls. 01:51 But we're going to try to do something else as well. 01:54 We're gonna start small. 01:56 We're starting with a program called 01:58 "Touching the Untouchables" 02:02 and we're going to start with a little 02:03 untouchable goals. 02:05 We're doing this now. 02:07 We're getting them food, because they're so hungry. 02:10 Hard to come to Jesus, when you're hungry 02:13 and so we're getting them food 02:15 and we will be sending them to school. 02:18 We're trying to feed their souls 02:21 and fill their bellies in India, 02:25 home to more than a billion souls 02:29 and hundreds of million of Gods controlled by evil spirits. 02:34 Please help us in this work. 02:36 Please help us. 02:37 Write to me, John Carter, Post Office Box 1900, 02:41 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358 02:44 or write to me at Terrigal in Australia. 02:47 We have an Australian office as we have an Indian office, 02:52 with somebody there working full time trying to touch 02:56 the untouchables with the love of Jesus. 03:00 Please write to me today. 03:03 And Jesus said, "I've come to seek and to save 03:07 that which was lost." 03:17 Welcome today to the Carter Report. 03:19 We're talking about the greatest hoax 03:22 that is ever been fostered upon our gullible human race. 03:26 We're talking about Darwinism. 03:28 Dr. Johnson, we're glad that you're here today. 03:31 It's good to be here. 03:32 We just had a great television program with you 03:35 and this one is going to be just as good. 03:37 Now in our previous program 03:40 you talked about the human genome. 03:43 Now this was so amazing, it sort of blew me away 03:48 and we talked about DNA and some of those things. 03:51 For the folks who've just tuned in, 03:53 how much information is found in the human genome? 03:58 I want you to tell us this again. 04:00 Human genome has about 12 gigabits of information, 04:06 which if you relate that to 04:13 the amount of information and other media, 04:15 it just vastly overwhelms it. 04:17 DNA for example if you take one, strand of DNA, 04:23 one molecule of DNA from every person ever lived 04:26 it would easily fit in a teaspoon 04:28 along with enough room in that same teaspoon 04:31 to hold all the information of all the books 04:34 that ever been written, 04:36 if they could be encoded in the same method. 04:41 And a Darwinist will tell me this happened by blind chance. 04:44 That's what they would say. 04:45 And what would you comment on that? 04:47 How would you respond to that? 04:48 Show me, how is that possible, as an information scientist, 04:53 meaningful functional information 04:56 cannot arise from chance and life is filled 05:01 with meaningful functional information. 05:04 I heard then a great Professor John Lennox, I think, 05:10 that's right, from Oxford University, 05:12 a professor of mathematics. 05:14 He use to debating Richard Dawkins 05:16 and he says to Richard Dawkins, 05:18 it's like a man is walking through the desert, 05:21 he is going to die of starvation 05:23 and he sees some writing in the sand. 05:27 Well, immediately he assumes 05:29 that somebody has been there before him 05:31 and somebody wants to point him 05:33 in the direction of water. 05:34 But, you go then to Richard Dawkins 05:38 and you show him the DNA and everything. 05:40 He says, no, this doesn't show intelligent creator 05:43 this happened by itself. 05:45 Richard Dawkins is said that, 05:49 life only looks like it was designed, 05:54 it really wasn't. 05:57 Well, it certainly doesn't look like it, doesn't it? 05:58 It does to me. 05:59 Now you're expert in this, you've got doctorate in this. 06:03 Define information, what is information? 06:06 Information technically means 06:08 that something can be in one of multiple states 06:13 and which state it's in 06:16 determines the information content. 06:19 For example, if you flip a coin it can be either head or tail. 06:25 That could be information but its chance information. 06:29 Yes. 06:30 Now no meaningfulness about it at all. 06:34 If you had a two head coin, it doesn't matter 06:37 how many times you flip it, 06:38 you're gonna get heads every time. 06:40 That has no information, 06:42 because there is no contingency. 06:44 It cannot be either than heads 06:48 and same this is true in information. 06:51 Information for example, 06:53 every nucleotide along the DNA strand 06:57 can be in any one of four different states. 07:01 And which state it's in will determine 07:08 the information content and there's nothing along 07:12 the DNA that determines which it should be. 07:13 They are purely arbitrary as far as looking at it goes. 07:17 And in fact, studies have shown that the DNA sequence 07:23 looks like its random but we know that it isn't random, 07:26 because it's functional. 07:28 And so just looking like its random 07:31 doesn't make it random. 07:33 Now Richard Dawkins 07:35 other atheistic evolutionist 07:39 say that this was the result of chaos. 07:43 Now can chaos produce intelligent information? 07:50 Randomness can never produce functional information 07:54 and functional information 07:56 is actually even more so in life, 07:58 because it is not only functional, 08:02 but it also is prescriptive. 08:05 Prescriptive to illustrate 08:09 the difference between random information, 08:12 chance contingency, functional information 08:16 and prescriptive information. 08:19 Assume for example 08:20 you had a monkey typing at a keyboard. 08:23 Computer keyboard. 08:24 Now no knowledge at all about what is being typed, 08:28 that would be an example of chance contingency. 08:32 Every stroke is recorded, you know, it has a pattern. 08:36 Yes, yes. 08:37 But that's purely by chance, has no meaning whatsoever. 08:42 If I were writing email to you for example, 08:46 which I've done, that is functional information. 08:50 Because I'm conveying something functional 08:53 from one person to another, that's functional information. 08:57 If I were sitting at my computer typing 09:00 a computer program 09:02 that would be an example, it's functional information, 09:05 but its also prescriptive information. 09:08 Prescriptive means, 09:10 you have to follow this prescription 09:13 and when you do you'll get some meaningful result 09:16 and prescriptive information is like a recipe 09:20 for example for baking a cake. 09:22 If you follow the sequence properly, 09:25 you'd get the desired result and life is filled with that. 09:30 And how does this relate to DNA 09:33 and human genome, and all that stuff? 09:36 DNA has in it prescriptive information. 09:40 Every one of the 100,000 proteins 09:44 for example that are generated by your body, as-- 09:48 Hundred thousand proteins? 09:49 Hundred thousand proteins that are manufactured 09:51 and used by your body, every single one of them 09:55 is the output of a real computer programs execution. 10:01 So every one of those-- 10:02 Now you're sure of this? 10:03 Yes, yes. I am. 10:06 Then how could evolution produce this, 10:08 I ask you? 10:09 I really have no idea how it could, in fact, 10:11 it couldn't because programs do not arise by chance. 10:17 An evolution Darwinistic evolution says, 10:21 you have these functional computer programs 10:25 for a particular organism. 10:28 Sometimes those computer programs 10:33 are modified by mutations to produce better programs 10:35 and that just doesn't make any sense 10:37 as an information side. 10:40 It certainly takes a great deal of faith, doesn't it? 10:42 Well, I would think so. 10:43 I mean to believe in this-- this stuff. 10:45 That all of these randomness and chaos 10:48 produce this tremendous a matter of information, 10:52 it takes faith to believe that 10:55 because there is no evidence for it. 10:57 No, and in fact a lot of people say-- 11:00 well, even Richard Dawkins says, 11:02 that the code that's in the DNA, 11:06 looks an awful lot like computer code. 11:08 And there is-- you said the, computer code 11:13 in that could just as well go 11:15 in to a computer engineer journal or something. 11:17 Now we do believe that there was a person 11:20 of course in charge who done with it. 11:21 Yeah, yeah, but what is-- what is interesting to me 11:25 is that Craig Venter, and his group designed 11:30 what they called the artificial genome. 11:34 They took the DNA from one particular bacterium, 11:38 they extracted it, they cobbled together 11:41 something that match the DNA of another bacterium 11:44 without understanding what was being done 11:47 other then it matched. 11:48 They injected the cobbled together 11:51 DNA into the bacterium, whose DNA was extracted 11:57 did some operations and it became alive 11:59 with a new DNA. 12:01 And his comment on that was 12:06 this demonstrator changed his mind 12:09 because this demonstrate that life 12:11 is an information process, a software process. 12:16 Our genetic code is our software. 12:19 This was said by the man who proved experimentally 12:24 that DNA code is software 12:27 and it is read by biological computers that are real. 12:31 Once upon a time you were an evolutionist. 12:35 Yep, I was. 12:36 But you are not an evolutionist today. 12:38 I was an evolutionist for 18 years 12:41 after becoming a Christian. 12:42 Yes. 12:43 I continued believing teachings so forth. 12:46 But science convinced me 12:50 evolution doesn't have a leg to stand on. 12:52 It is scientifically not Bible. 12:55 It's a hoax. 12:56 It's a hoax. 12:58 They say that random mutation followed by natural selection 13:03 is the mechanism for evolution. 13:06 Now there are literally in the last few years, 13:09 thousands of scientists would disagree with that 13:13 and I'm one of them, 13:15 that it doesn't-- doesn't hold water. 13:19 Because natural selection simply is a-- 13:26 will determine which one of the organisms 13:29 will survived to reproduce. 13:32 Natural selection has no capability 13:36 of going back in to the DNA and modifying it 13:39 so that you have evolution. 13:41 You're watching the Carter Report. 13:43 We're talking about "The Death of Darwinism" 13:46 and we'll be back with Dr. Don Johnson. 13:51 God has His time and His place for everything. 13:57 And the time and the place now 14:00 is Latin America, including Cuba. 14:04 Time Magazine talks about the second Protestant reformation 14:09 and describes how hundreds of thousands even millions 14:14 of Latinos are coming to the gospel of Christ. 14:19 I'm not an armchair theologians, 14:22 I'm speaking according to experience. 14:24 I've seen it with my own eyes. 14:28 Recently we went down to El Salvador, 14:32 there I spoke in the largest football stadium 14:35 in Central America with the biggest crowd 14:39 that football stadium had ever, ever seen. 14:42 They came not to see a football match 14:45 but to hear about the Blood of Christ. 14:49 Millions are coming to knowledge of God 14:52 in Latin America. 14:54 Doors are opening in Cuba. 14:58 Who knows we may be going to Cuba soon. 15:01 As the doors open by the grace of God 15:05 we are going to step through those doors 15:08 and we want you to step through those doors with us 15:12 and be part of our team for such a time as this. 15:17 Please write to me friend, don't put it off. 15:20 Write to me, John Carter, PO Box 1900, 15:24 Thousand Oaks California, 91358. 15:28 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal, New South Wales. 15:33 Be part of the second reformation, join us 15:38 and see the miracles of God. 15:42 Amen. 15:52 Hello, friend, I'm John Carter. 15:54 Welcome back to the Carter Report. 15:56 And my special guest is a great scientist. 16:00 He got two PhD's in science, Dr. Don Johnson. 16:04 Glad to have you with us, doctor. 16:06 Good to be here. 16:07 We had a great time with you in the previous programs. 16:12 We're talking about information. 16:14 What is needed to set up a process 16:16 to produce vast stores of complicated information? 16:21 Now you've got a Ph.D. 16:23 in the computer information science. 16:27 So why do you have to have to set up 16:29 these vast storage system? 16:31 Well, you have to all information, 16:34 that's meaningful arise in a mind. 16:36 So for example a programmer programs 16:39 the computer and then ultimately 16:41 gets instantiated and put into memory 16:45 and so forth then it works. 16:46 So the computer programs weren't made by a chaotic-- 16:49 No, no. 16:51 If it were, you know, 16:54 people wouldn't need to hire programmers. 16:56 They would just, you know, let their computer run until, 16:58 you know, it would ultimately modified itself 17:00 to be something useful. 17:02 Well, that doesn't work. 17:03 And people know that, it doesn't work. 17:05 We get that to what is portrayed as scientific truth 17:09 when it comes to the genome 17:13 which is as 1000s-- 1000s of computer programs 17:19 and as much more complex than that. 17:22 Because there is all kinds of levels 17:25 of messages within messages and just all kinds of stuff. 17:29 Now look, I'm getting what you're saying, 17:31 but I'm nervous in this. 17:32 Like some other people 17:33 who are watching the program may be getting lost. 17:36 Don't get lost, just hang in here, 17:39 because this information may save your soul 17:42 or the soul of your children. 17:44 Tell me this about the human genome 17:47 all the information and all like computer 17:49 its and bits that are in that. 17:52 There are literally millions of real computer programs 17:56 and real computers in every single cell. 17:59 Yeah. 18:00 This-- are you sort of making this up for myself. 18:02 No, no, no, no, no. 18:04 This was actually we proven experimentally 18:06 by Craig Venter's group that-- 18:08 that our genetic code is our software, 18:11 which means that there is also a hardware that reads that code 18:15 and so they're real computers. 18:17 So this is not-- They are biological computers. 18:19 This is not from the theological seminary? 18:20 No. 18:21 No its not and it is something 18:23 that's an analogy, that it's like a computer program, 18:28 those are real computer programs. 18:30 Doctor, I want to read you a statement. 18:32 Sure. 18:33 Now, why should I be reading you this statement 18:35 because this is a way you're the authority. 18:38 "Even the simplest bacterium has about 2,000 genes, 18:45 each with 1,000 letters instructing the organism 18:49 how to function and reproduce. 18:52 According to Darwin's Theory, this was the raw material 18:57 that led a ultimately to the vast library 19:00 of information in human DNA, 19:03 the equivalent of a library of 1,700 volumes 19:09 each of a 1,000 pages." 19:12 Would you comment on this and tell me 19:15 why it is an absurdity to believe 19:19 that are happened by chance. 19:21 If you can believe that a library 19:24 of that magnitude could arise by chance, 19:27 you go ahead, but I don't and I don't think anybody 19:30 who thinks about it would. 19:32 It cannot arise by chance. 19:34 Information that's functional cannot ever arise by chance. 19:40 And what happens in evolution, Darwinian evolution 19:43 as you have random mutations taking place. 19:45 Yes. 19:46 A mutation has never ever been demonstrated-- 19:51 What's a mutation? 19:52 A mutation is, when something changes 19:56 radiation or whatever it changes 19:58 a one of the nucleotides along, 20:00 you know, the six billion nucleotides 20:03 along the strand. 20:05 How many billion? 20:06 Six billion of them along-- 20:08 Nucleotides? 20:09 Along the DNA. 20:10 Six billion? Six billion of them. 20:12 And a mutation changes one? A mutation might change one. 20:14 Yes. 20:15 For example, 20:17 sickle-cell anemia is caused by a single mutation 20:21 on a hemoglobin gene 20:23 and some people's say, 20:24 well, that's an example of a beneficial mutation, 20:26 because people with that mutation 20:29 don't develop malaria. 20:32 But that's because the plasmodium parasite 20:35 that-- that causes malaria can't invade those cells. 20:40 Therefore that's a selective mutation, 20:42 that's good for people living in areas 20:45 where there is a higher evidence of malaria. 20:49 But ask anybody in United States 20:51 or any other-- almost any other place, 20:53 if having sickle-cell is a good thing? 20:56 And they'll say no, and there has never been a case 21:01 where a mutation has caused an increase in information. 21:05 Well, that's a heart of Neo-Darwinism. 21:07 It is. It is. 21:08 I mean, you're dealing now, 21:10 you're get to the-- the jugular vein. 21:12 Yeah. 21:13 Because it's the very heart 21:14 of the Neo-Darwinian hypotheses or hoax. 21:18 That-- that is true. 21:19 Here's a statement I want you to comment on this. 21:22 "Nothing produces everything. 21:26 Non-life produces life. 21:28 Randomness produces fine tuning. 21:32 Chaos produces information. 21:35 Unconsciousness produces consciousness. 21:38 Non-reason produces reason." 21:41 As an information scientist, 21:45 tell me is it true? 21:47 Absolutely not. 21:49 Information has never been produce 21:51 by a random process, 21:53 at least functional information. 21:55 You can produce chance, 22:00 probabilities like with a dice or coin or something like that 22:03 but nothing functional. 22:06 And if for example, 22:09 you had some typing random things at a keyboard 22:13 and suddenly three of the letters 22:16 spelled D-O-N, 22:18 I wouldn't amid instantly conclude 22:20 oh, they're talking to me. 22:22 Because that would-- that would have no information, 22:26 even though I've matched something 22:27 that in another context might be information. 22:31 But through the information always requires a sender 22:34 and a receiver 22:36 if the information is functional. 22:38 It makes sense to me that 22:40 people who believe in the Darwinian idea do so, 22:46 because I haven't studied this information 22:48 or I'll say being brainwashed to believe that 22:50 every scientist in the world 22:52 believes in Darwinian information. 22:54 I think it's a-- it's a hoax, 22:57 I think people like you are giving tremendous evidence 23:01 why a person can believe, 23:04 that instead of man coming from nothing, 23:06 that man came from God. 23:09 And it says in Genesis 1:1 23:11 the most important words ever written down. 23:14 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." 23:19 Therefore we came from the hand of God 23:21 and because we came from the hand of God, 23:23 there is-- there is hope 23:25 and one day we're going to live for eternity. 23:29 Do mutation-- 23:30 I want you to tell me this a little bit more, 23:33 because you are giving so much information 23:35 and I'm missing a bit. 23:37 Do mutations ever increase information? 23:41 Never, they-- 23:42 That's category. 23:43 A random mutation has never been shown 23:47 to increase functional information. 23:50 It can change information 23:52 and every mutation that is ever been studied 23:56 actually demonstrates a loss of information 24:00 and some of those losses 24:02 can provide better survivability. 24:04 For example a bacterium might mutate at a point 24:09 where it in antibiotic would attach 24:11 and it becomes resistant to that bacteria, 24:13 that antibiotic. 24:14 Yes, yes, yes. That can happen. 24:16 Yes. 24:17 But where do you get 24:18 the worst possible infections in a hospital, 24:23 where all the normal bacteria are killed off-- 24:25 Yes, yes, yes. 24:26 Only those bacteria that have that 24:28 adverse mutation will survive. 24:32 Here is the statement 24:33 from William Provine of Cornell University. 24:37 "If Darwinism is true, there is no evidence for God, 24:42 there is not life after death, 24:44 there is no absolute foundation for right and wrong, 24:47 there is no ultimate meaningful life. 24:51 People really don't have free will." 24:54 Therefore Darwinism is a demise of humanity, 24:59 but today we're talking about the demise of Darwinism 25:04 and salvation of humanity. 25:07 Doctor, answer this question. 25:09 Has the actual-- 25:12 the actual reality of life's computer hardware 25:17 and software been verified or are they just fairy tales? 25:23 It has been verified by Craig Venter's group 25:25 and more and more scientists, literally thousands of them 25:29 are now acknowledging that. 25:32 It's a software process and further more 25:36 there are thousands of scientists 25:39 who are now doubting and searching for something 25:42 to replace Darwinism 25:44 because they realize Darwinism is dead. 25:48 Did you know one of the greatest scientists 25:52 made this remark of the man 25:54 who worked at punctuated equilibrium? 25:57 He said Gould-- 26:01 Gould? Stephen Jay Gould? 26:02 Yes. 26:03 He said, effectively Darwinism is dead. 26:10 Lynn Margulis also said that. 26:11 Effectively get it, effectively Darwinism is dead 26:18 but God is alive. 26:21 Dr. Johnson, do you have a personal faith in God? 26:25 I do indeed and one of the faith in God 26:31 didn't come as result of science 26:34 and in fact, I've mentioned before 26:36 that I continued believe in evolution 26:38 because that was science 26:39 and you can't argue with science facts after all. 26:43 And it's interesting because I ask God, 26:46 why did you let me teach these lies for 18 years? 26:51 And what came to me was, 26:53 if I had come to disbelieve in evolution 26:56 because of my Christian faith 26:59 I would have lost my credibility 27:01 with a scientific community. 27:03 Of course, yes. 27:04 But-- but as a scientist... 27:05 As a scientist-- 27:07 when I studied that as a scientist 27:09 and came to the conclusion that this is false 27:13 I can have some credibility 27:15 and I can-- I can with credibility state 27:17 and integrity state to scientist 27:20 I don't believe in evolution because of the science. 27:23 Doctor, it's been an absolute privilege 27:27 to have you on our television program. 27:29 We will long remember this interview. 27:32 Please write to me today John Carter, 27:35 Post Office Box 1900, Thousand Oaks. 27:37 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal. 27:40 If you want to see 27:41 one of Dr. Johnson's recommended videos, 27:45 we're gonna put this up online so you can look at it, 27:48 overwhelming evidence why you can believe in God. 27:52 My message to you today is this, 27:54 believes in the God, who believes in you. 27:58 And remember the words 28:00 of the greatest man who ever lived, 28:02 the man who made the universe. 28:04 Jesus said "You will know the truth, 28:08 and the truth will set you free." 28:12 Thank you for tuning our way today 28:15 and God richly bless you and thank you, Dr. Johnson. 28:18 Thank you for having me. |
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