Participants: John Carter (Host), Danny Shelton
Series Code: CR
Program Code: CR001511A
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00:09 The Carter Report presents,
00:10 The Living Word around the world. 00:17 Hello, and welcome to The Carter Report. 00:19 I'm your host for today. My name is Danny Shelton. 00:22 And thank you for joining us today. 00:24 Today we're going to have a special guest, 00:26 none other than President, CEO, 00:29 you name it, Chairman of the Carter Report, 00:32 Pastor John Carter. 00:33 Pastor Carter, it's good to have you 00:35 here today at the Carter Report. 00:37 This is kind of a switch, isn't it? 00:39 Thank you, Danny. I'm glad to be here. 00:41 I'm glad that you're here. 00:42 Today you're going to be a blessed 00:44 because Elder Carter has a ministry 00:46 that I respected for so many years 00:48 and I respect him as a man of God 00:50 and his family for what they're doing 00:52 for the cause of God around the world. 00:54 I'm here in beautiful new studios in Moorpark, California 00:59 and we're going to talk about that in just a few minutes. 01:01 So right now go grab your friends, 01:03 your enemies, everybody, 01:05 tell them, come and stay tuned to the Carter Report. 01:07 We will be back in just a moment. 01:25 You can have all the silver 01:30 You can have all the gold 01:33 Just give me Jesus 01:39 You can have all the wisdom 01:44 This earth can hold 01:47 Just give me Jesus 01:50 Give me Jesus When I'm lonely 01:53 And I've nowhere to go 01:57 Give me Jesus 01:58 He's the only One who love me 02:02 so Give me Jesus 02:06 because Jesus is all I need 02:19 You can have all the spotlights 02:22 You can have all the fame 02:26 Just give me Jesus 02:32 You can have all the success 02:36 Have your well-known name 02:40 Just give me Jesus 02:43 Give me Jesus When I'm lonely 02:46 And I've nowhere to go 02:50 Give me Jesus 02:51 He's the only One who loves me 02:56 so Give me Jesus 02:59 because Jesus is all I need 03:06 He's been my closest friend 03:07 when no one seem to care 03:12 Hello and welcome back, 03:13 I'm Danny Shelton here at the Carter Report 03:16 with Pastor John Carter. 03:18 Pastor Carter, this is different 03:20 I know for you today, 03:21 you're usually doing the interviews but today, 03:23 I'm getting the privilege of interviewing you. 03:25 I am glad to be here today. 03:27 And you know what? 03:28 I respect you so much, I already mentioned earlier, 03:31 for what you do for the cause of God, for your vision, 03:34 Elder Carter, is incredible. 03:35 You have worked literally around the world. 03:37 I want to find a little bit of-- 03:40 Go to the background of you a little bit. 03:41 Where are you from? 03:42 Obviously, now most of us can tell and we've heard, 03:45 you're from Australia. 03:46 Tell me a little bit about your childhood upbringing? 03:49 I was born in a tiny little town in Queensland 03:52 by the name of Esk. 03:54 I went back there recently when I drove through it. 03:57 That was quite a few years ago now, Danny. 03:58 Yes. 03:59 And I spent most of my life, 04:01 all my early years in Australia. 04:04 And I've lived in this great land of the United States 04:07 almost 30 years. 04:08 Thirty years. Twenty nine plus years. 04:11 And been on 3ABN, it's little commercial now, 04:14 been on 3ABN-- How long now? 04:18 Started 80s. About 29 years. 04:20 Twenty eight, twenty nine years. 04:21 Twenty eight, twenty nine years. 04:23 Absolutely. 04:24 One of the first people-- I want to ask you that, 04:26 first of all, you decided at some point 04:27 in your life that you love-- not only love Jesus 04:30 but you want to be used as an instrument of God 04:32 and decided to become a pastor. 04:34 How did that come about? 04:35 I was a boy of about 15 or about 14 or 15 years of age. 04:42 I was going through trouble time in my life. 04:44 You know, teenagers doing it all the time. 04:48 And what we did back then, we thought it was really bad, 04:51 but by today's world what we did back then 04:53 was pretty innocent, 04:54 like sneaking at the back of the church, 04:56 around the back of the church and smoking some cigarettes 04:58 and things like that. 05:00 That was the biggest sin that one can do, 05:02 and going to the movies, really bad. 05:04 But in my heart of hearts, 05:07 I felt that God was calling to me 05:09 to be a minister 05:11 and especially to be an evangelist. 05:14 Now, why I would think this, 05:16 I cannot explain except for the grace of God. 05:19 But I had this conviction that burned in my soul 05:22 that I needed to go to the Avondale College 05:24 and trying to be a pastor 05:26 and most importantly an evangelist, 05:29 preaching the gospel around the world. 05:31 That had to come from God. Absolutely. 05:34 So you became a pastor. Yes. 05:36 And did you have churches 05:37 for a number of years before you-- 05:39 Yeah. Yeah. Tell me about it. 05:40 I'm first and foremost a pastor. 05:42 I'm an evangelist, part time. 05:45 I'm only an evangelist, part time 05:46 because I can't afford to be an evangelist full time. 05:50 When I run a campaign, like in El Salvador and Russia, 05:53 I've got to raise-- you know, 05:55 you got to raise millions of dollars. 05:57 A big campaign today cost about a million dollars. 05:59 People say, that's a terrible lot of money. 06:02 No, it's a tiny bit of money 06:03 when you think what we spend on... 06:06 Absolutely. 06:07 You know, we're not going to talk about it 06:08 but what we spend on, you know what, 06:11 the tens of millions, even the billions, 06:14 but the most important work is to go 06:16 into all the world and to preach the gospel. 06:18 But that costs a lot of money 06:20 and I can only do that part-time 06:21 because even though I've got great supporters, 06:25 raising a million dollars to me is still a big deal. 06:31 And if I had more money, I'd be doing more evangelism. 06:34 But I am a pastor, 06:38 in Australia sometimes I would have 06:40 five churches to look after. 06:41 Wow. 06:43 Before I came over, 06:44 I was the pastor of the Wahroonga Church 06:46 at their headquarters 06:48 on the campus of the great Sydney Adventist Hospital. 06:50 Yes. 06:51 So I've had a church every year. 06:53 Sometimes, as I said five churches. 06:55 And then I went to Texas, I love Texas. 06:58 Yes. 06:59 I think Texas is just a great place. 07:02 Just want to say hello to the Texans. 07:04 And how did you get to Texas? 07:05 Somebody had to call you. I came on the plane. 07:08 I know you would say that. 07:10 Someone had to call you and invite you 07:12 to come and preach in Texas. 07:13 I've got a call through Elder Cyril Miller. 07:19 You know him, Elder Miller. 07:21 And this is going back to about 1985, 07:26 when I was pastor of the great Wahroonga Church 07:29 that I thought was a magnificent church. 07:32 Wonderful church, distinguish congregation. 07:34 And I got a call to go to Fort Worth, Texas. 07:38 Right. 07:39 And you met a man there named Jim Gilley, 07:41 who is now president of 3ABN. 07:44 And Jim Gilley was extremely kind to me 07:48 because he sort of baby-sat the church 07:52 and stopped it from running away until I got there. 07:55 And so Jim Gilley took me under his-- under his arm 08:00 and looked after me and sort of initiated me 08:03 into the different way of life in Texas. 08:08 I just like Texas and the Texans. 08:11 Well, you were there and you came for reason, 08:13 God called you. 08:14 Now tell me about-- you talked about your support, 08:16 about your family support. 08:18 Tell us a little bit for those who don't always get to hear 08:20 or see about your family? 08:22 Tell us about your wife and children? 08:23 I've got a super wife. 08:26 She's got evangelism, work of the church in the soul. 08:31 She knows more about running big public meetings. 08:36 I'm talking that campaigns like Billy Graham used to run. 08:39 Yes. Advertising. 08:41 Where or how you do it. 08:42 Setting up stage-- 08:44 She knows more about that than any person. 08:45 I admire Beverley greatly. 08:47 And so, then I've got a son, David. 08:49 He's the producer and the director 08:51 of this television program and he is a super son. 08:55 And I mean he's a super son. 08:57 Yeah, he does a great job to direct. 08:59 Yeah, he does and it's-- he's lucky, he's got me, 09:02 he can direct because he really directs me. 09:04 He tells me, you know, he come down and says, dad, 09:07 you don't do it like that. 09:09 Oh, I love it. 09:10 He says to me, you talked too much today, dad, 09:14 and didn't let Danny get a word in. 09:15 I said that take something, that's a talent, you know. 09:18 Then I have two daughters, one is a psychologist 09:21 who lives in San Francisco 09:23 and another daughter there 09:26 who lives in San Francisco, Leanne and Julie. 09:29 Leann is a psychologist, 09:31 Julie is the intensive care nurse 09:33 and they live up there with families and so forth. 09:36 You have a great family. Great family. 09:39 And I want to talk about now, John, 09:41 we're going to talk about your evangelism. 09:42 You came as a pastor 09:44 and within the Adventist Church, 09:46 usually we're working within the church. 09:48 It's unusual for pastors to say, 09:52 I'm going to start doing evangelism 09:54 around the world and literally still be 09:57 a pastor of the church but develop your own ministry, 10:00 such as a Carter Report. 10:02 And I want to say, I don't think 10:04 I've ever seen anyone do it 10:05 as effectively as you have done. 10:08 Being a pastor in the church and at the same time doing-- 10:12 it's almost like a separate ministry 10:14 because you're out now 10:16 raising the funds yourself, you're going to go to Russia, 10:19 you're going to all these countries around the world, 10:21 that you mentioned and some we have at New Guinea 10:23 and all these different countries around the world, 10:25 and yet you-- that's a juggling act. 10:28 You've got a church, you're involved in evangelism. 10:31 How did your church feel about that? 10:33 Did they support you? Yes, they did. 10:35 I've got a different philosophy to most pastors. 10:39 One of my heroes was HMS Richards, you know, 10:42 the great preacher HMS Richards, saint of God, 10:45 have faith-in-God-man. 10:46 In his book Feed My Sheep, he said one of the worst 10:49 descriptions of a minister of God is to say, 10:52 he's a conference worker. 10:54 Oh, no, he said, HMS Richards said, 10:56 never, never, never call me a conference worker. 10:58 He said, I work for God. Thank you. 11:00 The conference just has the privilege 11:02 of paying the pastors, it's not their money. 11:05 For crying out loud, it's not their money. 11:07 It comes from the Lord's tithe. 11:09 It's not-- doesn't belong to the conference, 11:11 he just uses the conference. 11:13 So I've had the philosophy and belief from the Bible 11:16 that I work for God. 11:18 And when the occasion arose and as God put an anointing 11:22 upon my soul, and He did, and He gave me a vision, 11:25 like He gave you for 3ABN. 11:27 Thank God for 3ABN. 11:29 God gave me a vision, like He gave to John Wesley. 11:32 John Wesley said to that old, frosty Anglican divine. 11:36 He said, go back to your own parish. 11:37 John Wesley said, "My parish is the world." 11:42 God has given us a parish, it's the world. 11:45 And if you're called by God and if you're working for God, 11:48 then your parish is going to be bigger than your own 11:51 local little parish, it's going to be the world. 11:54 And I got that vision, I say, glory be to God. 11:57 Back in my homeland of Australia, 12:00 where the church asked me to run the biggest campaigns, 12:03 probably in the history of Australia, 12:05 in the Dallas Brooks down in Melbourne. 12:07 Tremendous breakthrough. 12:09 Then in the Sydney Opera House, and then Beverley said to me, 12:13 when we were pastoring the Wahroonga Church 12:15 and had all sort of pastoral problems 12:17 with young people who were losing their way. 12:20 She said, let's take them out of this affluent area 12:24 where there's so much money, 12:26 let's take them into a third world country 12:29 and get them away from all of these lights 12:33 and let them see the power of God. 12:35 And so we started to take young people overseas 12:38 to places like Manila, where we saw the glory of God, 12:42 and to Jamaica. 12:43 And I've just been doing that ever since 12:46 and God has been blessing me. 12:47 Absolutely. 12:49 You mentioned earlier on another program, 12:50 you've been to Russia 42 times. 12:53 Forty two. What an amazing ministry. 12:55 I'm sitting here with Elder Pastor John Carter, 12:59 Evangelist John Carter and I'm here at 13:02 the beautiful Carter Report, 13:03 new facilities here in Moorpark, California. 13:06 Thank you for your love and your prayers 13:09 and your financial support of the Carter Report. 13:12 I can stand here in good conscience and great faith, 13:15 encouraging you, you pray and ask the Holy Spirit 13:18 what he would have you to do 13:20 in support of this great ministry. 13:22 I can say things they would never say, 13:24 but I can tell you this is a man of God, 13:27 the Carter Report people, the vision is from God. 13:31 They literally have the vision to reach the world. 13:33 Thousands and thousands, 13:35 and hundreds of thousands of people think of that, 13:38 hundreds of thousands 13:39 have come to the knowledge of Christ 13:41 through the ministry of John Carter 13:44 and the Carter Report. 13:45 Elder Carter, that's why I admire you, 13:47 that's why I'm here in support of you. 13:49 And for those of you at home, we're going take a short break. 13:51 Don't go away. We'll be back in just a moment. 13:56 God has His time and His place for everything. 14:02 And the time and the place now is Latin America, 14:06 including Cuba. 14:09 Time Magazine talks about 14:11 the Second Protestant Reformation 14:14 and describes how hundreds of thousands, 14:17 even millions of Latinos 14:20 are coming to the gospel of Christ. 14:24 I'm not an armchair theologian. 14:26 I'm speaking according to experience. 14:29 I've seen it with my own eyes. 14:33 Recently we went down to El Salvador. 14:37 There I spoke in the largest football stadium 14:40 in Central America with the biggest crowd 14:43 that that football stadium had ever, ever seen. 14:47 They came, not to see a football match, 14:50 but to hear about the blood of Christ. 14:53 Millions are coming to a knowledge of God 14:57 in Latin America. 14:59 Doors are opening in Cuba. 15:03 Who knows we may be going to Cuba soon. 15:06 As the doors open by the grace of God, 15:10 we are going to step through those doors 15:13 and we want you to step through those doors with us 15:17 and be part of our team for such a time as this. 15:21 Please write to me friend, don't put it off. 15:24 Write to me, John Carter, Post Office Box 1900, 15:29 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 15:33 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal, New South Wales. 15:38 Be part of the Second Reformation. 15:42 Join us and see the miracles of God. 15:46 Amen. 15:57 Hi, I'm Danny Shelton and I'm here 15:59 at the Carter Report in Moorpark, California, 16:02 interviewing none other than Pastor John Carter. 16:05 Thank you. And doing great. 16:07 Well, thank you for being a guest today 16:10 at your own facilities. 16:11 I marvel at this really what you've done 16:14 because coming from Australia, 16:15 being a pastor and a lot of guys, 16:18 and there's nothing wrong with it, 16:19 God calls people to pastor. 16:20 Sure He does. 16:22 But you do that all your life, but you continue to reach out 16:25 into new areas of the world 16:27 and it's because of vision that God has given you. 16:29 And how better to do it than make use 16:32 of all the technical equipment that you can, 16:35 and all the new communication highways. 16:37 And you're doing it here with television, and your radio, 16:41 your evangelism around the world. 16:43 Thank you Elder Carter for what you do for the cause of God. 16:46 And doing an incredible job with the Carter Report. 16:49 As an evangelist, I've talked to the folk earlier, 16:52 God has given you an anointing that's not to be denied. 16:57 I have seen you, I can talk to you as a person, 17:01 I respect you but when you get in the pulpit, 17:04 when you stand in front of the crowds, 17:06 I, Danny Shelton, have seen it with my own eyes, 17:09 an anointing that comes over you 17:12 that supersedes John Carter. 17:14 It's no longer John Carter speaking 17:16 but God is using you as an instrument. 17:18 Now, don't be confused at home, people say, oh, my, 17:21 he's putting this guy up on a pedestal. 17:23 Actually it should be that way with all of us 17:25 because of ourselves we can do nothing, 17:28 through Christ we can accomplish all things. 17:30 And I use this scripture over and over again, 17:33 I if I be lifted up, Jesus says, 17:35 from this earth will draw all men unto me. 17:37 So when you stand up 17:38 and you represent Jesus Christ to the world, 17:41 things are going to happen. 17:42 The blessing is on the go. 17:44 Tell me about the first big evangelistic campaign 17:47 you decided to go on after you came to America? 17:51 The first big evangelistic campaign 17:53 after I came to the United States, 17:56 only just moved here 17:59 and I took a bunch of young people from Australia. 18:02 Trying to think about it, you know, 18:04 that's why I am gazing around, 18:05 trying to get my thoughts together. 18:07 We took a bunch of them, 18:10 we'd been over on the East Coast 18:13 and we took them to Kingston, Jamaica. 18:17 So that was the first campaign from here. 18:20 And then the second campaign was at the Fort Worth, 18:23 and we went to Harare, Zimbabwe. 18:25 Sounds good, doesn't it? 18:27 That's Salisbury, Rhodesia. 18:30 The old Salisbury of the old British colony of Rhodesia. 18:34 Now it's called Harare, Zimbabwe. 18:38 And so we've been doing this ever since. 18:40 Okay. 18:42 What was it that drew you to Russia? 18:44 And why did you think you could go there so quickly 18:47 and be successful, when all the years of communism? 18:51 It seems like you didn't hesitate, 18:53 one of the first people not just Adventist, 18:55 one of the first evangelist in the world 18:59 to go to Russia to do a huge campaign. 19:01 Why? 19:02 I got a phone call 19:04 from Pastor Robert Spangler in Washington. 19:07 And I was still in bed because you know, 19:08 they're ahead of us so they don't seem 19:11 to realize this that if they're calling you at 9 o'clock, 19:13 that's 6 o'clock 19:15 when all good people are still sleeping. 19:17 And so he said, John, we want you to go to Moscow 19:21 and test out the waters. 19:23 He said, "Amazing things are happening in Russia. 19:26 Have you heard about them?" I said, "Yes, a little bit." 19:28 He said, "It's like, it's all people were locked up in a..." 19:32 I remember, he told me. 19:34 He said, "People were locked up in a building and all the doors 19:38 and all the windows were shut, they were locked shut. 19:42 And then all of a sudden all the doors burst open 19:45 and the windows burst open, 19:47 and those people inside were seeing outside world 19:49 for the first time in their lives." 19:51 And he said, "I want you to go over 19:53 and test out the waters, see what's going to happen." 19:56 So we went over there in '91 20:00 and hired the Palace of Culture. 20:04 We raise the money, got some money together. 20:06 We got it together from our friends and Paula Owens 20:10 and Russell Owens came from Texas. 20:12 So my Texans came and stood with me. 20:14 Sure, I remember. You know them. 20:16 And we went over there 20:17 and we hired the Palace of Culture, 20:19 just down the road from the Kremlin. 20:23 Danny, it was the power of God. 20:26 I would start preaching at nine in the morning, 20:29 I was a bit younger then. 20:30 So I'm preaching at nine in the morning, 20:33 I'd go through until 11 o'clock at night 20:35 with only a pause for bread and water. 20:39 I just go one meeting after another 20:41 and the people wouldn't move. 20:44 And you could feel 20:45 the tremendous energy in the meetings, 20:47 and the hunger of the people. 20:49 I remember once I was preaching with the translator 20:51 by the name of Igor Pespecan, a Jewish Adventist Christian. 20:59 And all of a sudden I became conscious of the fact 21:01 that there was a void, there was no noise at all. 21:05 Everything has stopped. 21:08 And I looked at Igor, this big, tall Russian guy. 21:11 And he was crying, weeping. He couldn't go on. 21:15 Then I looked at the audience of thousand, 21:17 they're all crying, all weeping. 21:20 And I stopped and I said, "Igor, what's going on here?" 21:23 He said, 21:24 "The people are overcome with emotion that you are here 21:28 and you're preaching the word and for the first time 21:31 they are hearing a foreigner preach the word of God." 21:33 That was the first ever evangelistic campaign 21:37 in the Soviet Union by a foreigner. 21:39 Glory be to God. Amazing. 21:41 And in that same meeting, I remember a bunch of soldiers 21:45 sitting up the back under their lieutenant or captain whoever. 21:49 When I made an altar call, they all stood to their feet 21:52 and they marched down. 21:54 Down they came. 21:55 All the people coming down, but they made way, 21:57 these soldiers marched down. 21:59 And because the crowd was so great, I said to them, 22:03 come up on the stage, to the soldiers. 22:05 They marched up the stairs, they marched, 22:08 they came up and they stood behind me. 22:10 There was a part of the Russian army, 22:12 listening to the word of God. 22:14 Why do I do this work? How could I not do this work? 22:17 Wow. Incredible. 22:19 Because God has-- God has led me to do this work. 22:21 There've been times when I wish that I could have an easy job 22:25 and I could retire and go and sit on the beach. 22:28 But as it is written in the Bible, 22:30 is there not of cause, that's what David said, 22:32 is there not a cause? 22:33 Yeah. Absolutely. 22:35 And what a vision it takes to do that. 22:37 But also probably what surprised you was 22:39 how much money it would take that you have to raise to go-- 22:43 He literally has to raise 22:45 millions and millions of dollars for these, 22:48 I want to call them "campaigns" 22:50 and I'm not sure that's the right word. 22:51 That's a good word. It's like a military campaign. 22:53 Yeah, that you go but it continues the souls-- 22:57 I'll never forget sitting-- 23:00 when we first went to Nizhni, Novgorod, 23:02 he baptized 25,032 people sitting with the governor 23:06 and the governor saying, I want you, 23:07 Elder Carter and Mr. Shelton 23:11 and Adventist out of the Russia. 23:14 Yeah. 23:15 And I was ready to pack up and go. 23:18 I said, okay, this is communism just falling. 23:20 We don't know any of these people that are standing around 23:22 with their AK47s. 23:25 The government says get out, I'm ready to go. 23:27 And this man begins to talk. 23:30 He begins to talk to the governor. 23:32 And I thought he'd never be quiet and I said, 23:34 they're going to lock us up, throw the key away. 23:38 We'll spend the rest of our lives in prison. 23:40 But holy boldness came over you and reminded me 23:44 where the disciples turned, 23:45 says, they turned the city upside down. 23:47 That's what happened in Nizhni, Novgorod, 23:49 when you went on after that first campaign, now to Nizhni. 23:53 And by the end of it, the Lord blessed, he used you, 23:58 the governor softened, he got us together 24:00 with the representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church, 24:03 said shake hands. 24:04 The Archbishop kissed me. 24:06 Well, that's two in your name. 24:08 And so and by the end of that they said, he said, 24:14 there's a greater enemy than each other and it's communism. 24:18 We don't want it to come back. 24:20 So Boris Nemtsov took a stand-- 24:22 And he saved the day, and the God. 24:23 He did. 24:25 But thank you for your holy boldness 24:26 because you could have just left, 24:28 but you spoke boldly to him. 24:30 I don't have time to go into all of what you said, 24:33 but it made an impact on his life. 24:35 The Bible says, it's better to obey God than men. 24:39 Absolutely. 24:40 And we need to have a holy fear of God 24:43 and do what God tells us to do. 24:45 Absolutely. 24:46 Now we only have a few minutes left. 24:48 And I want to close, 24:49 I want to pick your brain for a little bit. 24:51 I want to get inside the mind of Elder John Carter. 24:54 There are lots of young people today 24:56 and some of them maybe older folk 24:58 who are watching this program. 25:00 History will show and only eternity will show the results 25:05 of the work of evangelism 25:08 by the Carter Report, John Carter. 25:10 But there are folks wanting to start today 25:12 but they have no idea, 25:14 they just say, I could never do anything like that. 25:17 There was a point in your life, you thought you never can do. 25:19 Today, if somebody is watching, they're working and saying, 25:24 I want to do something big for God 25:26 but I don't know how to do it. 25:28 What would you-- I'd like you to look in the camera a moment 25:30 and just talk to the folk. 25:31 Firstly, you need to get your priorities straight, Danny. 25:36 You got to believe the Bible. 25:37 I believe in Sola scriptura. 25:40 I am a Protestant. 25:42 I believe in the Bible. 25:45 I believe this our authority. 25:47 Now when people come to me and they say, it can't be done, 25:49 and all the rest 25:50 and they give me all these arguments. 25:52 I don't take any notice of them because I know they're not led 25:55 by the Spirit of God, 25:56 because they're not following the Bible. 25:58 The Bible tells us to go into all the world 26:01 and to preach the gospel. 26:02 I believe this that people are lost without Christ. 26:06 That's a terrible heresy to some people today. 26:08 Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life." 26:11 We're not saved by becoming some other religion, 26:14 we're saved through Christ. 26:16 So you got to get your priorities straight. 26:20 Then you've got to get filled with the Holy Spirit. 26:24 Now the Holy Spirit is given to those-- 26:26 not to get all worked up emotionally 26:27 but to those who obey God. 26:30 You need to be able to say, I'm going to obey God. 26:34 And then if you step out by faith and obey God 26:37 as you have done with 3ABN, God sends in the money. 26:41 Often we don't have enough money 26:43 when we're running a campaign. 26:44 When we start with a campaign like, 26:46 when we went to India, 26:48 which cost us about a million dollars, 26:50 people said, well, the church gives you that. 26:52 No, of course they don't. 26:54 Where does a million dollars come from? 26:56 It comes from people out there 26:58 watching the television program. 27:01 And we never have the money before we start, 27:03 and the money sometimes doesn't come 27:06 until we're two thirds of the way through. 27:08 All right. 27:10 And people say, well, we can't do anything. 27:12 HMS Richard said he spoke to an Adventist Christian once 27:15 and that person said, well, 27:17 you've got to have the money in the bank, brother. 27:18 First you got to have money in the bank. 27:20 HMS Richard said, anybody can talk like that, 27:24 that's not faith. 27:26 Faith goes ahead when you don't have the money in the bank. 27:28 Obey God, step out by faith and also love the brethren. 27:35 Okay. 27:36 You love the brethren, 27:37 God will lead you and God will bless you. 27:39 But you've got to get a conviction from God. 27:40 All right. 27:42 Elder Carter, thank you so much. 27:43 We only have a few seconds left. 27:45 There're people right now 27:46 who would like to find information 27:48 about the Carter Report. 27:49 They may want to send a donation 27:51 to the Carter Report. 27:52 Can you give us an address? Yeah. 27:54 PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, California, 91358. 27:59 That's, PO Box 1900, Thousand Oaks, 28:02 California, 91358. 28:05 And in Australia, send your donations 28:08 to the address at Terrigal. 28:10 And, Danny, thank you. 28:11 Thank you and God Bless of you, all of you at home. 28:14 Until we see you next time, may the Lord richly bless you. |
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