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Miracle in El Salvador and Plain Talk, Part 1

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00:09 The Carter Report presents,
00:10 The Living Word around the world.
00:17 Hello, friend. I'm John Carter.
00:19 Welcome today to the Carter Report.
00:21 Our program today is entitled "Miracles in El Salvador."
00:27 My special guest is Pastor Pacheco,
00:30 the leader of the Adventist Church,
00:32 the Christian Adventist
00:34 in that part of the world in Central America.
00:37 Another very special guest today
00:39 is Pastor Carlos Acosta,
00:42 the senior pastor,
00:43 in Spanish American Adventist Church
00:47 in Los Angeles.
00:48 Welcome today to the Carter Report.
00:53 God has His time and His place for everything.
00:58 And the time and the place now is Latin America,
01:02 including Cuba.
01:05 Time Magazine talks about
01:07 the Second Protestant Reformation
01:10 and describes how hundreds of thousands,
01:13 even millions of Latinos are coming to the gospel of Christ.
01:20 I'm not an armchair theologian.
01:23 I'm speaking according to experience.
01:25 I've seen it with my own eyes.
01:29 Recently, we went down to El Salvador.
01:33 There I spoke in the largest football stadium
01:36 in Central America, with the biggest crowd
01:40 that that football stadium had ever, ever seen.
01:43 They came not to see a football match,
01:46 but to hear about the blood of Christ.
01:50 Millions are coming to a knowledge of God
01:53 in Latin America.
01:55 Doors are opening in Cuba.
01:59 Who knows, we may be going to Cuba soon.
02:03 As the doors open by the grace of God,
02:06 we are going to step through those doors.
02:09 And we want you to step through those doors with us
02:13 and be part of our team for such a time as this.
02:17 Please write to me, friend. Don't put it off.
02:20 Write to me, John Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
02:25 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358.
02:29 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal, New South Wales.
02:34 Be part of the Second Reformation,
02:38 join us and see the miracles of God.
02:43 Amen.
02:54 Welcome today to the Carter Report,
02:56 Pastor Pacheco.
02:58 I'm so glad today to have you here at the Carter Report.
03:01 Welcome today.
03:03 Gracias.
03:05 And also, Pastor Acosta,
03:07 we want to thank you for coming today.
03:09 Thank you very much. Happy to be here.
03:10 It's a privilege for us to have you men, here today.
03:13 Pastor Pacheco, in our last program we spoke about
03:18 the great evangelistic campaign
03:20 that you organized in El Salvador.
03:29 You hired with our help, the largest football stadium
03:33 in Central America.
03:39 And people said it will never be filled.
03:43 And yet you told me just recently,
03:47 the crowd that came to the great football stadium,
03:51 was the biggest crowd
03:53 that had ever come into the football stadium.
03:57 Gracias.
03:58 Now before the big event, not the major event,
04:01 but the big finale in the football stadium,
04:08 you organized how many local campaigns across El Salvador?
04:20 We had 96 evangelism meetings.
04:24 All the churches
04:27 and small groups organized churches,
04:32 organizing and supporting each evangelistic meeting.
04:36 It was a historical feast.
04:39 And people came, you had pastors
04:42 who came from other countries.
04:50 We had pastors from Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua.
04:58 That they knew about the feast
05:00 that we were gonna have, the celebration.
05:03 But they never imagined
05:06 how that was going to end at the stadium.
05:12 Even-- that even moved them
05:17 to tell the conference presidents of other countries,
05:20 "Let us do the same thing."
05:23 Now El Salvador has not always been a happy country.
05:29 Now tell me about your background,
05:31 growing up as a boy?
05:44 In the middle of the war, that took place
05:47 and the criminality and violence.
05:50 You have dreams of course,
05:54 your great visions, you know to accomplish.
05:57 Yes.
06:01 But then when you have Christ in your soul,
06:07 those dreams become fulfilled
06:09 even though there's great challenges
06:11 like the ones that I have,
06:13 because God is the one that leads you.
06:25 And we were growing up preaching, given Bible studies,
06:27 getting involved in the church,
06:31 and the dreams of God were just being fulfilled in our lives.
06:34 Now we know that 75,000 souls
06:37 were murdered in the terrible war
06:40 that took place in El Salvador.
06:44 You were brought up, you saw your friends being killed.
06:47 You saw young people being murdered.
06:50 You saw blood on the streets,
06:53 and you were preaching the gospel as a boy.
06:56 When did you start preaching the gospel?
06:59 How old were you?
07:02 I was ten years old. Ten years old.
07:05 At that age I got baptized.
07:14 And at that age in El Salvador they tell you,
07:16 "You are ready to become a preacher."
07:18 When you're ten?
07:19 When you're ten.
07:21 Now you had a brother who was a younger preacher, is this so?
07:26 And what was his name?
07:29 David. David. Yes.
07:30 How old was he when he started preaching?
07:35 Seven years old.
07:36 And he was preaching the Bible?
07:42 But, one thing, he couldn't read.
07:46 But he was preaching the gospel.
07:48 How could he preach the Bible
07:50 if he couldn't read?
07:54 He would memorize the Bible texts.
07:58 And he would quote the scripture,
08:01 find it in such place,
08:03 and he would have me read.
08:05 And so, in your soul, there was a fire burning.
08:09 And you were going to grow up
08:11 to become a preacher of the gospel.
08:15 And so we came down to El Salvador,
08:19 and we met you,
08:20 and you were the leader of the church.
08:22 They call you a Union President.
08:25 And we met the other presidents,
08:27 and we met these great pastors.
08:30 And then the dream started to grow.
08:34 And you decided by the grace of God,
08:38 "Let us join forces with the Carter Report
08:42 and let us-- let us go and rent the national stadium."
08:48 What was the reaction of the people?
08:57 Within the pastors and the brothers,
09:01 there are brothers that have much faith.
09:04 But there are some that do not have faith.
09:05 Well, that's true everywhere.
09:09 And I remember that they told me
09:19 "That has never been done, be careful, don't do it."
09:22 Yeah.
09:25 "That's not happened here before,
09:29 aren't you afraid?"
09:31 I said I'm not afraid.
09:32 No.
09:41 You know, one way Satan was trying
09:43 to put obstacles in our path.
09:47 But then, I would also listen to what God was saying.
09:52 These are my children.
09:54 Why were you not afraid?
09:59 Because we have a big God.
10:01 Uh, amen.
10:02 Great God.
10:03 And this God is the creator of the universe.
10:07 And so, together, we hired
10:09 the biggest football stadium in Central America.
10:16 Now how did the people get to the meetings?
10:25 Seven hundred and fifty buses.
10:28 Did you hear that, 750 buses?
10:33 Pickups and cars that were not counted for
10:36 but, they were in the thousands.
10:37 Plus cars and mini buses in thousand
10:41 and the people came from all over El Salvador.
10:52 You know, only 30 percent of the membership
10:55 participated in this drive.
11:00 The rest were friends.
11:06 All the members of the church in El Salvador,
11:08 they do not fit in the stadium.
11:12 But when people are making big lines,
11:16 they would come in an orderly fashion.
11:19 The brothers would cry.
11:22 The brothers would cry?
11:24 They would cry.
11:25 Why would the brothers cry?
11:34 They had never seen an experience at that church
11:36 could do such things with God's help.
11:38 And they never saw the numbers so big, so massive, altogether.
11:47 We had people from the government,
11:51 ex-president and the ex-vice presidents.
11:59 And they were so impressed to see the church,
12:01 the Seventh-day Adventist church.
12:05 They did not only come one night,
12:06 but they came the other nights.
12:11 We never thought that the Adventist Church was so large.
12:15 And when they heard the messages,
12:17 Christ-centered messages,
12:22 the Seventh-day Adventist message,
12:26 and when they saw and heard the whole program,
12:31 they said, "The Seventh-day Adventist Church
12:32 has a powerful message."
12:34 The message of Christ.
12:36 You know, Jesus said, "With God nothing shall be impossible."
12:44 And when we met you,
12:46 a man who'd been a preacher
12:48 from the day he was ten years of age.
12:53 Whose life had been in jeopardy a thousand times,
12:57 who'd seen dear ones gunned down on the streets.
13:02 When we met you,
13:04 and when we met the people in El Salvador,
13:07 we said to ourselves,
13:09 "Surely, the presence of our Lord is in this place."
13:13 We're gonna take a little break in a moment,
13:16 and then we're gonna come back,
13:19 and we're going to tell
13:20 some of the most amazing stories
13:23 from the land of El Salvador.
13:26 Don't go away.
13:27 We'll be back after this break.
13:32 Hi, I'm John Carter.
13:34 My wife Beverly and I were watching television
13:36 the other night watching the news, American News.
13:40 They told us that the church
13:41 in North America is actually shrinking.
13:44 They said that atheism
13:45 is the fastest growing religious movement
13:47 today in North America.
13:49 And people are saying,
13:51 "What on earth can we do to save the church?"
13:53 Well, of course, Christ died for the church,
13:55 He saved the church.
13:56 But what they mean is how can we keep the church
13:59 as a vibrant force in the world today,
14:02 in Australia, in America and in Europe
14:04 and in rest of the world.
14:05 Let me tell you a little story.
14:07 John Wesley was one of the greatest preachers
14:09 that the English-speaking world has ever heard.
14:12 John Wesley came upon the scene of the church in England
14:16 a few hundred years ago when the church was dying.
14:19 Like the church today, it was a shrinking church.
14:23 But the people in the church were in a state of denial.
14:25 They refused to accept the reality
14:28 that the church was dying.
14:30 John Wesley did something
14:31 that other people said couldn't be done.
14:33 He revived the church through public evangelism.
14:37 Did you hear that?
14:38 He started to preach Christ, he preached the Bible
14:41 and he preached out of doors and indoors.
14:44 And the church was saved.
14:46 Not only did he save a lot of souls,
14:49 the souls of sinners, he saved the souls of the saints.
14:55 Please join me, my friend, in evangelism.
15:00 It's what Jesus did.
15:02 Write to me, John Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
15:06 Thousand Oaks, California.
15:07 In Australia, write to me at the address on the screen
15:11 at Terrigal, in New South Wales.
15:14 Join me, my friend, in preaching Christ.
15:18 Join me in public evangelism around the world.
15:24 Thank you, in Jesus' name.
15:33 Welcome back to the Carter Report.
15:35 We are talking to Pastor Pacheco
15:37 from Central America from El Salvador.
15:40 Welcome, Pastor.
15:42 Gracias.
15:43 And we are also talking to another famous pastor,
15:45 Pastor Acosta from Los Angeles.
15:49 Thank you, Sir.
15:51 So we're so glad that you're here today.
15:52 We're talking about the great miracles
15:54 that are happening today in Latin America.
16:00 Time Magazine talks about the Second Reformation.
16:07 It's talking about the vast movement
16:10 among the Latino people right around the world,
16:17 but, especially, in Latin America,
16:21 and especially, especially in El Salvador.
16:27 Pastor, Pacheco, you grew up in a land of bloodshed,
16:34 75,000 people were gunned down on the streets,
16:40 they tried to kidnap you,
16:43 and take you to Guatemala,
16:46 and then take you to Cuba,
16:48 as a little boy of 14,
16:51 and train you to be a Gorilla fighter,
16:56 but God kept His hand over you.
17:00 Were you afraid, when you were a little boy,
17:03 growing up in El Salvador
17:06 with all these murders taking place?
17:15 Assume as yes, logically, I was very afraid.
17:24 But in my life I had a different hope
17:26 from the rest of the people.
17:30 And when one has that hope,
17:34 you learn to give your fear to the Lord.
17:36 Because we have the presence of God.
17:39 Now recently, you were in charge
17:42 of the biggest evangelistic campaign,
17:45 I think in the history of El Salvador.
17:51 How many buses to bring the people?
17:56 Seven hundred and fifty buses.
17:58 I didn't know there were 750 buses in El Salvador.
18:03 I didn't know there were 750 buses.
18:15 We always asked ourselves,
18:16 "Where are we gonna get such amount of buses?"
18:18 We gotta ask.
18:19 I know, it's incredible.
18:21 How did you feel personally,
18:24 when you saw the buses coming,
18:26 and tens of thousands of people?
18:32 When I arrived to the stadium,
18:35 and I saw the stadium full.
18:43 At that time, I remembered the prophets--
18:45 the words of the prophet, Zechariah.
18:47 When he saw the child,
18:52 when he said, "Oh, now my eyes have seen the salvation.
18:56 Now I could die."
19:01 I said, "Lord, this is the biggest thing
19:03 that has happened to us here.
19:06 So from here on Lord,
19:07 You decide what is gonna happen."
19:09 And is it true that some people said to you,
19:11 "Be careful, this has never happened before?"
19:20 Yes.
19:21 So what do they say to you?
19:28 They tried to discourage me,
19:29 even a group of pastors themselves,
19:31 they tried to discourage me.
19:32 Yes.
19:40 So when Nehemiah was rebuilding Jerusalem, I remembered,
19:45 when people of Israel were leaving Egypt,
19:49 there were discouragers in this crowd.
19:56 But there were people,
19:57 encouragers, within these crowds.
19:59 Did you know, there was a drone?
20:02 You know about the drone.
20:06 And you people organize the drone.
20:10 And we, having to pay for it
20:11 but you folks organize the drone.
20:14 And it was flying around the place
20:16 and you showed these vast crowds of people.
20:19 And many of the people were waving
20:21 as the drone went over.
20:23 And then, the great climax for the campaign,
20:28 93 preliminary campaigns,
20:32 the hiring of the biggest football stadium
20:34 in Central America,
20:37 750 buses, plus, other vehicles,
20:43 vast crowd, record breaking crowds,
20:46 and then the baptisms.
20:49 Tell us about the baptisms?
20:51 How were they baptized?
20:57 It was very impressive for me.
21:06 When we received the financial support
21:08 from the Carter Report,
21:11 and the question now was,
21:13 "How are we gonna baptize all these people?
21:15 How are we gonna transport the water?
21:17 How are we gonna do it?"
21:23 So we had the young people, the path finders,
21:25 the adventurers and the master guides.
21:28 And the committees of leaders,
21:31 they said, "Pastor, don't worry about that.
21:34 Just get us swimming pools."
21:39 So Carter Report donated pools,
21:43 four big huge pools.
21:49 There were 14 pastors baptizing in each one of these pools.
21:52 There were 14 in each, each pool?
21:58 And all the pastors were at the same time baptizing
22:03 and people walk-- going into the swimming pool.
22:07 People screaming, people screaming,
22:10 "There's more, there's more coming,
22:11 there's more coming."
22:12 And pastors were baptizing.
22:17 And the people wanted to get baptized
22:18 at that place, at that moment.
22:20 People were coming to Christ,
22:23 not just joining a church,
22:25 they were joining the church, yes,
22:27 but they were coming to Christ.
22:29 And surely the Spirit of God was in this place.
22:33 Pastor Pacheco, under God, you were the man.
22:39 God used you, then he used the church leaders,
22:42 the conference presidents, the lay people,
22:45 all the pastors, but you were the leader there under God.
22:50 But God was our leader.
22:51 Tell me about some of the people
22:54 who were baptized.
23:10 There were many people who belong to gangs.
23:14 Many people who were gang members?
23:16 Yes, that also got baptized,
23:18 turned their lives to Jesus at that point.
23:28 There were another group of people
23:29 who had been listening to the word of God
23:31 for many years, 15 years
23:32 and they also gave their lives to Jesus at that point.
23:40 And at that point, the Holy Spirit touched
23:42 all these people's hearts.
23:50 They did not require an invitation.
23:52 Just the Spirit would bring them
23:53 to the pool to get baptized.
24:03 Many marriages, they reconciled
24:06 and they both decided to come
24:08 and join the church to be baptized.
24:10 And many of these married couples got baptized.
24:14 They accepted the Lord Jesus.
24:39 Everything that happened just gave us the indication
24:42 that the Holy Spirit was present.
24:44 Many hearts came together and many people cried.
24:46 And we say, glory be to God,
24:48 and glory be to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
24:52 Now you are a president, a leader of the church,
24:56 do you practice evangelism or do you just talk about it?
25:04 We practice evangelism because that is our lives.
25:07 Do you run evangelistic campaign?
25:10 Yes, I do.
25:11 And what are your plans for the future?
25:19 We need to keep thinking big.
25:20 Yes, indeed.
25:26 And again, we were waiting for you to come
25:29 and do greater things even, for God's glory and honor.
25:33 But we know that you do evangelism yourself.
25:37 And you go out into these streets
25:39 in the highways and the byways
25:41 and you preach the word
25:43 and you compel people to come in.
25:47 And today, we are seeing the Second Reformation
25:51 in Latin America,
25:53 because these people believe in evangelism.
26:01 Pastor Pacheco, we congratulate you.
26:05 We are proud of you.
26:06 We thank God for you.
26:08 And we have a saying where I come from,
26:12 that evangelism is the lifeblood of the church
26:19 and when the church stops evangelizing, the church dies.
26:25 So when you go back, and we've only got a minute,
26:29 when you go back to El Salvador,
26:32 what will you be doing?
26:37 We are gonna keep doing evangelism
26:41 because our church elders, the children, women,
26:45 the young people, the pastors,
26:49 the administrators,
26:53 treasurers, presidents.
26:54 Glory be to God.
26:55 All of us do the evangelism.
27:00 And this is how the work of God is going to be finished,
27:04 because Jesus said, "Go ye into all the world,
27:08 preach the gospel to every creature."
27:11 And when we believe this, we see the miracles of God.
27:16 I want you to do something for me, please.
27:19 Give my greeting to the believers back there.
27:23 Give my greetings and my love
27:26 and the love of our team,
27:28 to our brothers and sisters in El Salvador,
27:33 the land of the Savior, the land of the Savior.
27:37 My friend, what more can I say,
27:40 just support the preaching of the gospel,
27:42 help us to help this great reformation.
27:46 Write to me, John Carter, Post Office Box 1900,
27:50 Thousand Oaks, California, 91358.
27:53 In Australia, write to me at Terrigal.
27:57 Help us to light a flame in the darkness
28:01 that will never go out.
28:03 And thank you, my brothers.
28:05 And thank you, in Jesus' name.


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