Carter Report, The

Where are the beloved dead? Part 2

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Participants: Pr. John Carter

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00:13 Welcome back.
00:15 Today we're talking about
00:16 what happens when a person dies?
00:18 In the last program, we spoke about
00:20 the reality of Christ's resurrection.
00:23 But there is overwhelming evidence to prove the truth
00:28 that Christ is alive and well in heaven,
00:31 that Christ rose from the dead.
00:33 And our hope today
00:34 is in the resurrection of Christ.
00:37 Question we're going to ask and answer now is this.
00:40 Where do we go at death? What happens when I die?
00:44 Come over here to the Book of Acts 2:29.
00:48 Would you please to the Book of Acts 2:29.
00:53 Where is the Blessed Virgin Mary?
00:55 Let's go, Acts 2:29, "Men and brethren,
00:59 let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David,
01:02 that he is both dead and buried,
01:04 and his tomb is with us to this day."
01:06 Now we're talking about David,
01:08 the man who wrote the book of Psalms,
01:10 I mean one of God's great men, one of God's great heroes.
01:13 So if anybody is in heaven, it ought to be David,
01:16 don't you think?
01:17 Now verse 34 says, "For David did not ascend
01:20 into the heavens."
01:23 I mean, how plain can you get it.
01:25 David did not ascend into the heavens
01:28 but he says himself,
01:29 'The Lord said to my Lord, sit at my right hand,
01:32 Till I make your enemies your footstool."
01:35 So the Bible says
01:37 that Saint David is not in heaven.
01:41 Now come over now to the words of Jesus,
01:43 come over here to John 11,
01:46 Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,
01:48 John 11:43 and 44.
01:54 John 11:43 and 44.
01:59 Now this is talking about the resurrection of Lazarus,
02:04 a man who died, who was dead for four days,
02:07 and Jesus went to the tomb and resurrected him.
02:11 Amazing story, amazing because it's true.
02:15 So look at this, John 11:43.
02:19 "Now when He had said these things,
02:21 He cried with a loud voice," Lazarus, come down from heaven.
02:30 He came to the tomb.
02:32 "When he said these things, He cried with a loud voice,
02:35 "Lazarus come forth."
02:37 And he came, you know where Lazarus was?
02:41 He was in the grave, he was in the tomb.
02:43 "And he who had died came out bound hand
02:47 and foot with grave clothes,
02:49 his face was wrapped up with a cloth.
02:51 Jesus said to them, "Loose him, and let him go."
02:56 I want you to know this.
02:59 The Bible says that Lazarus was called from the grave.
03:04 He wasn't called down from haven
03:06 and he wasn't called up from hell,
03:09 and he wasn't called out of purgatory.
03:11 The Bible says he came from the grave.
03:14 Now come over here to John Chapter...
03:15 Now why don't we read the Bible?
03:17 Why don't we believe this text?
03:19 John 5:28 and 29, Jesus said, "Do not marvel at this,
03:26 for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves
03:29 will hear His voice and come forth.
03:32 Those who have done good, to the resurrection of life,
03:35 and those who have done evil,
03:37 to the resurrection of condemnation."
03:40 Now listen to me.
03:41 Look at me, the Bible says,
03:44 "I don't have an immortal soul."
03:47 The Bible says the doctrine of the immortality of the soul
03:50 comes from the devil.
03:52 This is in the Book Genesis.
03:54 The Bible says, "When I die, I go to sleep
03:58 and I rest in the grave."
04:01 Now if the Bible is true.
04:04 Now this is rather delicate, what I'm gonna tell you now.
04:09 I don't want to offend my beloved Catholic friends.
04:14 But Mary is not in heaven, Peter is not in heaven,
04:20 the saints are not in heaven.
04:23 So why should I trust in Mary
04:28 to save my soul,
04:32 when she is in the grave all waiting the resurrection,
04:36 and that's why the Bible teaches
04:37 that only Jesus Christ can save me.
04:42 And you see the true church is not built upon a dead saint.
04:47 The truth church is built upon the living Christ.
04:50 Did you hear this?
04:53 The true church is built upon the living Christ.
04:56 And so the Bible tells me
04:58 that my hope is in the resurrection of Christ.
05:02 Our loved ones are not in pain.
05:06 Our loved ones are not in...
05:08 You say, you don't believe in purgatory.
05:10 No, of course, I don't believe in purgatory.
05:13 Purgatory is not taught in the Bible.
05:16 Purgatory was an invention of the medieval church
05:22 to scare people into going to church
05:25 and supporting the church
05:27 with their silver and their gold.
05:30 It is not taught in the Bible,
05:32 neither is limbo taught in the Bible.
05:34 How many souls are burning today
05:39 in the fires of hell?
05:42 Well, there's none.
05:45 None, the Bible tells us that we sleep in the grave
05:49 until the resurrection.
05:53 Now we come to the next question
05:55 that we have already asked and answered it.
05:58 But we'll do it again.
06:00 Are the dead conscious?
06:03 And this is a very important question,
06:04 because all of my Catholic friends
06:06 and most of my Protestant friends,
06:08 certainly Martin Luther didn't believed
06:09 in the immortality of a soul.
06:11 Hear this Lutherans.
06:12 Martin Luther did not believed in the immortality of the soul,
06:15 but most of my Protestant friends
06:17 believe in the immortality of the soul,
06:19 and they believe that the dead are conscious
06:23 and the dead can come back on occasions
06:26 and talk to you.
06:27 This of course is spiritism.
06:29 I want you to come over here to John 11,
06:32 Matthew, Mark, Luke John, fourth gospel.
06:34 John 11, we're going to notice the words of Jesus
06:39 and the words of John also.
06:40 John 11:1, are the dead conscious?
06:44 "Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of Bethany,
06:47 the town of Mary and her sister Martha."
06:50 So here's a man who get sick
06:52 and he gets so sick this man dies.
06:55 Then if you come to verses 11 to 14,
06:59 "These things He, Jesus said, and after that He said to them,
07:04 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps,
07:06 but I go that I may wake him up."
07:09 Then His disciples said, "Lord, if he sleeps he will get well."
07:13 How be it.
07:14 However, Jesus spoke of his death,
07:18 but they thought that He was speaking about
07:21 taking rest in sleep.
07:23 Then Jesus said to them plainly,
07:27 "Lazarus is dead."
07:32 Now I challenge you.
07:34 You may find this to be a shocking talk,
07:37 some of you may be saying,
07:39 I really don't want to hear this.
07:40 My friend, I'm not here
07:42 to defend the opinions of my church
07:46 or some organization,
07:47 I'm here simply to show you what the Bible teaches,
07:51 and all the way through the New Testament,
07:53 death is likened unto a sleep and Jesus, our blessed Lord,
07:58 and if we can't believe Jesus, we can't believe anybody.
08:01 Jesus said, "Lazarus is sleeping,
08:04 Lazarus is dead."
08:08 And that's why we read a few moments ago,
08:10 Jesus went to the tomb where Lazarus was sleeping
08:15 and Jesus said Lazarus come forth
08:18 and the dead man woke up and came out.
08:22 And I believe that's going to happen
08:24 to God's people one day.
08:25 So I don't believe in the immortality of the soul.
08:28 I don't believe in purgatory.
08:31 I don't believe
08:32 in the edification of the saints,
08:35 because a dead saint cannot save me,
08:38 I need a living Christ.
08:40 Amen.
08:41 Do you hear this, and so Jesus here I say,
08:46 you Peter, you were just a tumbling old stone he said,
08:50 I said you Peter, I'm going to build my church on the rock,
08:55 and the rock is Christ Himself.
08:58 So the true church is built upon a living Christ,
09:01 the false church is built upon a sleeping saint.
09:08 There was a little boy who lost his soldier dad.
09:13 Little boy was grieving.
09:15 The young mother didn't know what to tell him,
09:18 but she thought about it and she prayed about it,
09:22 seems to me that God helped her.
09:25 She said, "Remember how we used to play,
09:29 used to play in the daytime, summertime.
09:34 All right.
09:35 Long summer days,
09:38 then I'd call you in our supper time
09:40 and say come home, come home, it's supper time.
09:43 When you came in late in the day,
09:48 you'd have dinner
09:50 and as you would have dinner you start to nod off.
09:55 And mummy and daddy would pick you up
09:57 and take you into your bedroom
10:01 and we'd undress you and put your pajamas on
10:05 and you'd fall asleep,
10:09 and you'd peacefully sleep unconscious,
10:14 until the sun was shining through the glass windows
10:18 and the birds were singing.
10:22 So she said that's how it is with death.
10:27 Daddy is sleeping.
10:30 And when Jesus comes and the sun is shining,
10:36 Jesus is going to wake him up.
10:39 Just as he woke up Lazarus, Lazarus come forth,
10:44 this man who'd been dead for four days,
10:46 whose body was starting to deteriorate,
10:51 he came out of that tomb...
10:57 same as Jesus did.
10:59 Jesus came out of the tomb.
11:03 Next question, will we see our loved ones
11:06 who died trusting in Christ again?
11:09 For instance, will I see my mother?
11:12 I'm largely here today
11:13 because of my mother teaching me this faith,
11:16 and praying with me as a bit of a delinquent youth.
11:21 Will I see my father again who was brought up
11:24 in the great Roman Catholic Church.
11:27 As a young boy he was an altar boy
11:29 in Australia serving under the priest.
11:33 But later on in life
11:34 after he came to some of my meetings,
11:37 he discovered Christ in the gospel
11:40 and was baptized in the Christ
11:42 and died in the truth of the resurrection,
11:45 will I see them again? That is the question.
11:49 I want you to take your Bible,
11:50 come over here to 1 Thessalonians 4,
11:54 1 Thessalonians 4,
11:58 you folks who are watching in television,
12:00 just listen to this one in the Bible verse 13,
12:03 "But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren,
12:05 concerning those who," what?
12:07 Fallen asleep.
12:08 And not talking about people in church either.
12:11 No, I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren,
12:13 concerning those who have fallen asleep..."
12:15 What's he talking about?
12:17 "Lest you sorrow as others who have no hope."
12:20 Now there you got it again,
12:21 Jesus spoke about a death
12:25 and Jesus called it a sleep.
12:29 He did this all the way through His teachings.
12:31 When Jesus went into the tomb, Jesus slept for three days.
12:36 He was unconscious, didn't go to purgatory,
12:38 didn't go to any place called hell,
12:40 any of that stuff.
12:41 No, no, no, that's not taught in the Bible.
12:43 He slept and the Bible says, Paul says,
12:46 I don't want you to be ignorant concerning people who've died,
12:50 people who've fallen asleep.
12:53 Now verses 16 and onwards.
12:54 Have a look at this, because this is really terrific,
12:57 verse 16 and onwards.
12:59 Have you got it?
13:01 "For the Lord Himself
13:02 will descend from heaven with a shout,
13:04 with the voice of the archangel,
13:07 and with the trumpet of God.
13:11 The dead in Christ will rise first.
13:13 Then we who are alive and remain
13:16 shall be caught up together
13:17 with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
13:21 And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
13:24 Therefore comfort one another with these words."
13:28 Now the Bible teaches this.
13:30 I just want you to think about this.
13:33 The Bible teaches that Christ is going to come,
13:36 and He's going to come in power and great glory.
13:41 And Christ is the mighty Son of God,
13:44 He died and He came out of that tomb,
13:47 and the Bible says,
13:49 "He is going to come back in magnificent glory.
13:53 And I'm gonna put up a picture on the screen
13:55 and it just moves my heart
13:58 because it's a picture of Christ
14:01 coming with the angels.
14:05 That's going to happen.
14:07 I believe it's going to happen soon,
14:11 I believe the signs of the times tells me
14:13 that we are living in the very last days.
14:17 I believe this.
14:19 I'm convinced that this is true and the Bible says
14:22 when Christ comes back, He is going to give a shout,
14:27 it's gonna be pretty noisy, folks,
14:29 not gonna be a secret rapture.
14:31 No, no, no people said,
14:32 "You believe in secret rapture?"
14:34 No, I can't believe in the secret rapture,
14:36 that's the delusion of the devil,
14:38 it's not taught in the Bible.
14:39 The Bible says Christ comes backs
14:41 with the sound of the trumpet,
14:44 you know, shout of the archangel,
14:48 and then something tremendous is going to happen,
14:51 the graves are going to crack open,
14:54 and people by the millions are going to be resurrected,
14:58 think about that.
14:59 Amen. Think about that.
15:03 So do I expect to see my old dad,
15:06 who is baptized in the Catholic Church?
15:09 I shall do.
15:11 He's not gonna be an old man,
15:15 going to be young man,
15:17 young strong, lost most of hair
15:21 but he's gonna have it all back.
15:24 My mother is going to be a beautiful young woman again.
15:27 I have just come back from Australia.
15:29 For last few days, I have traveled 19,000 miles,
15:32 and every time I go to Australia,
15:34 I can tell you something.
15:35 This must be a scientific truth.
15:38 The continents must be drifting apart
15:41 because it seems to be further to go there each time.
15:44 All the planes are going slower,
15:46 even though I went on a Dreamliner,
15:47 came back on a Dreamliner,
15:49 but it seems though it takes a longer now.
15:52 But I went down to Australia to bury my old friend.
16:01 I guess, perhaps the best friend I ever had,
16:05 Graeme Bradford.
16:06 We traveled the world together, we went to Russia together.
16:10 We went to lots of places, dangerous places together,
16:13 but he got melanoma
16:15 and he fought it for about five years.
16:18 The doctors would see him out, you know, they would say,
16:21 you look remarkable for a man who ought to dead
16:24 because he was running and jogging,
16:27 and preaching and he kept going, going,
16:29 keep, he kept going on
16:33 and we are going to see him again.
16:35 Yes, on the last day at the resurrection.
16:39 When I see him again, he's not going to be a man
16:43 dying of c cancer, nothing like that.
16:47 He's gonna be the same guy, the same Graeme Bradford,
16:52 same sense of humor,
16:54 same child of God, but no cancer,
16:58 no melanoma, no pain, no hospitals, no doctors,
17:02 no morphine.
17:06 That's our hope.
17:09 I want you to think about it.
17:11 If the doctrine of the immortality of the soul
17:14 is really true.
17:16 Just be honest, think about this.
17:20 The Bible says that the way to destruction
17:23 is wide and broad, and most people go there.
17:27 The way to salvation the Bible say
17:29 is narrow and straight, only a few that will find it.
17:32 Now people don't want to hear that.
17:34 They want to think that everybody y
17:36 is going to go to heaven, everybody,
17:39 but the Bible says,
17:42 few there be that find it if that is true.
17:47 And if the doctrine of the immortality of the soul
17:50 is true,
17:53 then right now there are billions of people
17:55 screaming in hell.
18:01 Think about that.
18:03 People say, "Well, you know, it gives a lot of comfort
18:06 to my heart to believe it."
18:08 No, no, no.
18:09 What sort of God would that be?
18:12 So there's nobody in purgatory, there's nobody in hell,
18:16 there's nobody in limbo,
18:18 there is a judgment day when Christ returns.
18:22 There's gonna be a big fire, God is gonna clean up the mess.
18:26 It's going to be a judgment day.
18:28 But right now, our loved ones are sleeping.
18:34 When I was a boy preacher...
18:36 Oh, just a few years ago.
18:40 A family came to me in Australia
18:41 in the little town of Parkes,
18:43 that's it's on the outer Barcoo where the preachers are few,
18:47 and men of religion are scanty,
18:49 on the path seldom crossed, that's an Australian poem.
18:53 I won't say it all because it wouldn't be appropriate.
18:56 A family came to me
18:58 because these people had come to my meetings
19:01 and this old man, they called him Pops,
19:03 he's a dear old man.
19:06 He passed away and the family came to me
19:08 and they said,
19:10 would you bury Pops 'cause you're a pastor.
19:12 I said of course I will.
19:14 And then they brought along their sons,
19:16 this is true story.
19:19 The sons opened up their wallets,
19:22 and took out thousands of dollars,
19:25 they put it down on my desk, and they said pray for Pops
19:29 so he will get out of purgatory.
19:35 What sort of God would he be
19:38 that you could pay him off?
19:42 What are you talking about?
19:44 You mean to say
19:45 that if you pay money to the church,
19:48 God's gonna let somebody out of hell?
19:50 What sort of God?
19:53 He be more crooked than some modern day politicians.
19:58 Now isn't that the truth?
20:00 Yeah.
20:01 So I told them, Pops died with his faith truly in Christ.
20:07 Living according to the truth of the Bible.
20:10 I said, you don't, I wouldn't take your money,
20:14 that would be an offence to me.
20:16 It would be an offence to God.
20:18 I could not belong to a church
20:20 that took money for praise for the dead.
20:23 I couldn't belong to that.
20:26 I think it's disgusting.
20:29 But I said, "I'll pray for you, and I'll bury the old man.
20:35 And one day by the grace of God,
20:37 you'll see him in heaven because it's going to happen,
20:43 which leads people to this question.
20:45 What about the dying thief?
20:47 Come over here to Luke 23, Matthew, Mark, Luke,
20:51 'cause this troubles some people,
20:53 the dying thief,
20:55 Luke 23
20:58 :39-43.
21:04 "Then one of the criminals
21:06 who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying,
21:08 "If You are the Christ save yourself and us."
21:10 But the other answering, rebuked him saying,
21:14 'Do you not even fear God
21:16 seeing you are under the same condemnation?
21:18 And we indeed justly, before we received
21:20 the due reward of our deeds,
21:22 but this Man has done nothing wrong."
21:25 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me
21:28 when You come into Your kingdom."
21:30 And Jesus said to him, "Assured, I say to you come,
21:34 today you will be with me in Paradise."
21:37 That text seems to teach
21:41 that Jesus and the thief went to Paradise that day.
21:45 Now I will show you
21:48 an apparent contradiction in the Bible.
21:50 Come over here to John 20:17,
21:54 John 20:17 and this describes
21:58 what happened on the day of the resurrection.
22:01 John 20:17, three days after the Friday
22:05 John 20:17,
22:07 "Jesus said to her, He is talking to Mary,
22:10 "Do not cling to me
22:12 for I have not yet to ascended to my father,
22:14 but go to my brother and say to them
22:16 "I 'm ascending to My Father and your God,
22:19 and to My God and your God."
22:20 Listen, you get it?
22:24 On the Sunday Jesus said, "I haven't been to Paradise,
22:29 said I haven't been there yet."
22:32 So there's a conflict, listen.
22:38 The Bible is a inspired Word of God
22:41 but in the original there are no punctuation marks,
22:45 the commas were placed by the translators
22:49 who believed in the immortality of the soul,
22:52 therefore this text can read this
22:55 "Assuredly, I say to you,
22:57 today you will be with Me in Paradise."
23:00 You see where the comma is?
23:03 Or else it can say this,
23:06 "Assuredly, I say to you today,
23:11 you will be with me in Paradise."
23:17 The thief didn't go that day home.
23:22 He was still alive probably live for another week,
23:26 and Jesus didn't go that day,
23:30 but one day that thief will be with Christ in Paradise
23:37 like Sammy Tannahill.
23:39 Have you heard of him?
23:41 He is a terrible criminal.
23:43 Sammy Tannahill had murdered many, many people.
23:49 He was going to die in the electric chair.
23:51 There is the man, Sammy Tannahill.
23:56 A pastor visited him and gave him a Bible.
23:58 Sammy started to read it, and read it.
24:03 He read it for three days, and three nights
24:05 and couldn't sleep.
24:07 And in the end he got down beside his bed,
24:09 he said God forgive me for every sin in the book
24:11 because I've broken them all.
24:14 And then he was taken
24:16 and put in the electrical chair,
24:18 and the pastor stood in front of him
24:21 and said Sammy have you got anything to say,
24:23 he said only this
24:25 that I have put my life in the hands of Christ,
24:30 and I have asked God to forgive my sins.
24:32 And the pastor let him in saying the Lord's prayer
24:35 and as they were praying,
24:37 they turned on the electricity
24:43 and Sammy fell asleep,
24:46 and he will be with Christ in Paradise
24:49 and so will you be.
24:52 We do not believe that the Bible teaches
24:55 a monstrous doctrine of the immortality of the soul.
24:59 We believe in the resurrection of Christ,
25:03 and we believe
25:05 in the resurrection of God's people.
25:10 Remember the text that God so loved the world.
25:14 So if you believe in Him, you will not perish,
25:19 but you will have everlasting life
25:22 in the resurrection when Jesus comes.
25:27 Amen.
25:28 Now, I just want to do something.
25:31 I want to dedicate this program today,
25:35 and we're gonna put this in the program.
25:39 We lovingly dedicate this program today
25:42 to the memory of my great friend,
25:49 and your great friend, Dr. Graeme Bradford.
25:54 And as I said at his funeral service,
25:57 Graeme rest in peace,
26:03 rise in glory.
26:05 Amen.
26:06 And all the people said amen and amen.
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