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00:14 Hello, and welcome to Coronavirus Report.
00:17 I'm here with Pastor Stephen Bohr, 00:19 president and speaker for Secrets Unsealed. 00:22 I'm C. A. Murray. 00:23 And our resource person is our board chair 00:27 and the chief medical officer for Kings County, 00:30 Dr. Milton Teske. 00:31 Doctor, good to have you here. 00:33 Pastor, good to have you here. 00:35 This program has been eagerly watched by so many people. 00:39 And Pastor, I know you have actually a communication 00:43 by email or message that was sent to you 00:46 that we're going to ask you to read at this time. 00:48 It kind of speaks of the value that this program is 00:51 to our viewing public. 00:53 Yeah, this message is from a good friend. 00:56 He's a physician who works in the Houston area. 01:01 And he sent me this email. 01:03 We're on a first name basis because I've known him since 01:05 I worked in New Jersey three or four decades ago. 01:09 So this is what he wrote: 01:11 "I hope and your family are doing well in the midst of 01:14 these difficult times. 01:16 I want to congratulate SUMtv for the outstanding 01:20 television programming. 01:22 I just watched the Coronavirus Update with Dr. Milton Teske. 01:26 It was an accurate summary of our current understanding 01:31 how the COVID-19 works systemically 01:34 damaging the vascular endothelium. 01:37 I encourage SUM to broadcast it more frequently, 01:41 and also to translate it to other languages. 01:44 It may help medical personnel involved in the treatment of 01:48 these patients to better understand the pathophysiology 01:53 of this highly contagious and deadly disease 01:56 and provide better medical care. 01:58 Blessings." 01:59 So this is a physician, a colleague of yours, 02:04 who has appreciated the comments that you've made. 02:07 He's a very well known and prominent physician. 02:11 And so, thank you so much 02:13 for being willing to do this every week. 02:15 You know, the more we understand about any aspect 02:18 of physiology or medicine or science, 02:22 the better we are prepared to relate to it 02:25 rationally and appropriately. 02:28 You know, God, in His great wisdom understands everything 02:31 and always knows what to do. 02:33 But God shares wisdom with us. 02:36 And through science we can begin to understand 02:40 some of these things and understand how to best 02:44 relate to them, what we can do to cooperate with God 02:48 in healing and surviving the evils that 02:53 have been brought on this world. 02:54 You know, it kind of reminds me, Ellen White wrote that 02:58 the first thing that students should learn in school 03:01 is the laws of physiology. 03:04 How the body functions, in other words. 03:06 The different systems, the different organs; 03:08 how they function and how to care for them. 03:10 Yeah, the more you understand, the more logical and sense 03:15 it makes to do the right thing in regards to health. 03:19 If we actually thought about what was happening 03:22 to our arteries, we would eat very differently. 03:26 Yep, that's for sure. And drink differently too. 03:30 Good doctor, I have been on the phone this morning with 03:33 a pastor friend of mine in New York City. 03:36 He's right there in Long Island. 03:38 And he's been watching the program, 03:42 along with others in New York state. 03:45 One of the gifts you have, and we'll give you applause 03:48 while we can still smell them, is that you have the ability 03:51 to make what can be fairly complex, simple. 03:56 Everybody doesn't have that ability. 03:57 But when you're finished discussing a subject, 04:01 you paint word pictures, first of all. 04:04 And secondly, you walk us through this kind of thing 04:09 non-dramatic, you don't put out any unnecessary fear. 04:14 You kind of tell it like it is, and simplify it. 04:17 And really, that's what we kind of need at this point in time. 04:19 We don't need to make it any more complex than it is. 04:22 - It needs to be simplified... ~ Or sensational. 04:23 Or sensational. Well said. 04:25 ...so that we can understand what we're dealing with 04:27 in a kind of reasonable, rational manner 04:30 without excess and undue hubris or hyperbole. 04:34 So we want to thank you for that. 04:35 God has given you that gift, and we thank you for that. 04:38 So what's been happening in the Valley? 04:40 Can we have a little report on what's happening 04:42 in the Central Valley? 04:43 Yeah, here in the Central Valley things have 04:46 pretty much been going along. 04:48 We continue to rack up more cases as we do more testing 04:51 and we find more positive people. 04:55 The health care system has not been overwhelmed, 04:57 which is good. 04:59 We've had several major outbreaks in meat packing plants 05:04 and food processing plants. 05:08 Again, the reason, if you just think about it, 05:10 if you understand a little bit about how those businesses 05:13 work, they have a lot of people working side by side 05:15 on assembly lines chopping the meat and packing the 05:19 fruits and vegetables, whatever they're processing. 05:23 They just have a lot of people all together in one place 05:26 working closely together. 05:27 And so it's an environment where it's easy to spread. 05:31 You remember the cruise ship, I mean, was our first big 05:35 introduction to this phenomena with this virus. 05:37 And you realize that you put a whole bunch of people together 05:40 in a space, the virus is very contagious. 05:44 It's going to spread easily. 05:47 The good news is that in spite of these outbreaks, 05:51 we haven't ended up with a situation like New Orleans 05:55 or New York where the health care system has been 05:58 pushed to the max and overflowing, and there's not 06:00 ICU beds and ventilators, and you know, the dead bodies are 06:05 piling up in trucks and vans. 06:07 That hasn't happened here in the Valley. 06:09 We seem to be spared from that so far. 06:13 And hopefully we'll continue to be. 06:16 It could be that we're just later in some ways, 06:19 Because, well, it'll come here later, but it also can be 06:24 a difference in just the spread of the city, 06:28 the sooner that we put in some of the protective measures. 06:33 The non-pharmacological measures they refer to 06:37 where we stay at home, we social distance, 06:41 and those types of things. 06:43 And so, it may be that some of that stuff 06:45 is contributing to that. 06:47 So have some of these areas like New York, New Orleans, 06:51 Detroit, and so on, have they actually reached 06:55 the top of the curve and they are flattening the curve now? 06:58 It seems to be that's the case. 06:59 Because they are getting... 07:02 While they're still having new cases and lots of 07:04 hospitalizations, you know, the number per day is like, 07:08 they were getting this many per day, 07:10 now they're only getting this many new per day. 07:11 So it seems to be tapering down in some of those areas. 07:17 L.A. still seems to have a lot of cases, the Bay Area. 07:21 But again, you'll notice it goes with the large urban centers. 07:26 They tend to have trouble. 07:28 Probably the major factor is population density there. 07:33 You know, there are some that are concerned that the 07:35 5G they are installing in the large cities 07:40 and have in these cities is actually radiating 07:45 and contributing to the thing there. 07:49 Really we don't know that for sure, 07:52 but it's something to be considered. 07:53 You know, there's a lot of things in a big city, 07:55 but the simplest thing, if you want to look at it, 07:58 is just population density. 07:59 You have all these people crowded and living and working 08:02 and interacting, you know, in a very dense environment. 08:07 It makes for the spread of the disease there. 08:10 So do you think the masks and, you know, the social distancing, 08:16 as well as maybe herd immunity 08:19 has a lot to do with the decrease? 08:22 Yeah, we probably don't have herd immunity yet, 08:25 but we may be moving in that direction. 08:28 The epidemiologists tell us it takes around 70% 08:33 of the population to sort of... 08:35 Once about 70% has been infected and is now immune, 08:39 then you're probably considered pretty good for that. 08:45 One study they did in New York, they just did a screening, 08:48 I think we mentioned that last time, 08:49 just went to a super market and tested, several super markets, 08:52 and they tested, you know, over a thousand people. 08:57 21% of them were positive. 09:00 So it would suggest that in New York City, 09:04 if you want to call it, the herd immunity is over 20% at least. 09:09 And that will continue to increase and spread 09:13 as time passes. 09:14 And if it can pass without us overwhelming the health care 09:18 system, well then it's probably a good thing. 09:22 ~ You know, I'm thinking of, because you're talking about it, 09:26 when you've got a dense population crammed into a fairly 09:29 small area, it's reasonable to expect you're going to 09:33 have an outbreak there. 09:34 Are we still looking for... 09:36 One of the epicenters has been nursing homes 09:38 where you have a lot of people crowded together who are old. 09:42 And prisons. 09:44 Have we monitored that comprehensively? 09:47 Are we still expecting a large outbreak of the virus 09:51 in prison situations? 09:52 And in situations where it may be latent right now, 09:54 but it's coming because you've got all these 09:56 guys or gals crammed together and there's no way 10:00 to separate them and to get the kind of distance 10:02 you would need to help yourself out there? 10:04 Yeah, if you were in on the public health officers 10:08 as we meet together and call and talk about these various issues, 10:11 you would realize those are at the very top of the list 10:15 of concerns right now. 10:17 Because you not only have the density of people crammed 10:19 together in the case of the nursing homes 10:22 and assisted living places, the people that are crammed 10:26 close together are, you know, senior citizens. 10:30 Most of them with multiple diseases, 10:32 on multiple medications. 10:34 Highly vulnerable. 10:35 The ones that are likely to have very serious complications 10:39 and possibly fatal outcomes are there. 10:42 So yeah, it's a very concerning situation. 10:44 And our efforts really go way over the edge there, 10:49 doing everything we possibly can to protect 10:51 those type of situations. 10:54 I can tell you there, the ones in our county, 10:56 I mean, they not only don't allow visitors in, 11:00 the staff all have to mask up. 11:02 We go in and test the staff. 11:05 We really are doing everything we can to try to prevent that. 11:09 At the jail, the same type of thing. 11:12 We want to protect that close together. 11:15 Because if we get one case, it's going to spread through, 11:18 you know, all of the other close cases there. 11:21 Most of our jails do not have private rooms. 11:24 You're in more, you know, dormitory type 11:28 setting right there. 11:30 People are crowded together and close, you know, contact. 11:33 And it would spread very rapidly. 11:35 Where it has broken into prisons and various places... 11:38 There was a number in China early on where it just 11:41 immediately went through the entire prison very rapidly. 11:46 I can tell you, locally our local county jail, 11:49 beyond all of the usual things that they could do 11:52 like, you know, masking and things like protecting, 11:56 you know, doing everything they can 12:01 to clean things, wash things, have people wash their hands, 12:05 wash things that touch people and are touched frequently; 12:07 all those internal things, they have really, 12:10 you know, you realize that if it breaks out there, 12:13 it came from somewhere. 12:15 And the staff, they're really careful to try to protect 12:18 so that the staff do not bring it in. 12:20 I mean, you know, if you have... 12:22 I mean, any business, if you've got a cough 12:24 or some symptoms, you're suppose to stay home. 12:27 But they've gone way beyond that and really, you know, 12:30 stay home, and you keep staying home. 12:32 And they're really extensively excluding any possibility 12:36 of staff bringing it in. 12:38 Their vendors that bring supplies and different things 12:42 and deliver to the prison, before they can come in 12:46 they make them put on the full suit, the outfit, everything, 12:49 you know, as if you were in a hospital 12:52 treating a COVID patient, to bring in the supplies 12:55 because, you know... 12:56 And they wash down the supplies. 12:58 They really want to do everything they can 13:00 to protect and keep it out of those situations. 13:03 ~ Check their temperature too, I'm sure. 13:05 - Oh yeah. - Yeah, yeah. 13:07 Pastor, you fly a lot normally. 13:10 I fly a bit myself. 13:11 American Airlines sent me something the other day. 13:14 You may have gotten it also. 13:16 Where, as you fly now, you have to wear a mask. 13:19 The flight personnel will be wearing masks. 13:23 They're wiping down everything in the plane. 13:24 They're disinfecting the plane between flights a lot more. 13:27 So they're really worried about, doctor, I guess 13:31 all industries, about a second wave coming through 13:34 that would really be crippling, wouldn't it? 13:37 ~ Yeah. 13:38 And a second wave here would probably 13:41 not come in by airplane. 13:44 It will come in because of an increased activity, 13:50 you know, here locally. 13:53 You know, the influenza virus has a very 13:56 seasonal nature to it. 13:59 Other coronaviruses which cause common cold type symptoms, 14:03 also have a seasonal thing. 14:05 They tend to... You know, in the fall. 14:08 Here in the Valley, I've been in emergency medicine 14:11 in the ER monitoring what goes on in the community 14:14 for the last 36 years. 14:16 And here in the Valley, when the fog sets in, 14:19 the flu season comes in. 14:21 When the fog season stops, you know, the flu season 14:27 fades off and goes away. 14:29 And we don't know exactly why that is. 14:32 I suspect it may have less to do with the weather, per se, 14:38 on the virus and more on the effect of the weather 14:42 on people's behavior. 14:44 Because during those seasons you move indoors, 14:49 you close the windows, we don't have fresh air, 14:53 we don't have sunlight. 14:55 You know, two really valuable healing agents 14:59 that God has put out there to sterilize and purify and 15:02 clean up the environment for us. 15:04 You know, we come in these times, 15:06 and then you run the heater and you have this, you know, 15:08 deionized heated stuffy air being recycled. 15:13 Everyone is crowding indoors and not going out 15:16 and getting their exercise. 15:20 So that tends to be, I think, the issue to much of the 15:25 seasonality of it. 15:26 But these viruses have a seasonality too. 15:30 And it may be that everybody, the decline and improvement 15:34 we're seeing across the nation right now 15:37 could well be related to the good weather 15:39 we're having here now, you know. 15:41 It's really warmed up, the fog seems to be gone, 15:44 it's warm and sunny every day, starting even to get 15:47 a little bit hot in the afternoons. 15:50 You know, so that may be having something to do with it. 15:53 Which means, wow, well what's going to happen next fall 15:58 when the cold weather starts coming in? 16:01 When the fog settles in again here 16:03 will we have a resurgence? 16:06 That is a possibility. 16:08 We'll just have to wait and see. 16:10 We don't really know the answer to it. 16:12 This will be our first summer cycle for this new virus 16:17 that's been released on us. 16:18 The good pastor has been wanting us to get into lifestyle 16:23 and the eight laws of health for weeks. 16:25 And we've always jumped on something 16:28 and the time goes so quickly. 16:29 I want to ask you one question, then I want to get to that. 16:32 We're hearing talk about, is it Remdesivir or Remsedivir? 16:36 - It's Remdesivir. - Remdesivir. 16:40 Give us a little update on that. 16:42 Is it something that we can look forward to? 16:44 Is it something that is effective? 16:47 From your standpoint, what do you see? 16:48 Okay, so Remdesivir is an antiviral drug. 16:53 It's a medicine which actually blocks the action of the virus. 17:02 It's an antiviral. 17:03 It works on the RNA in this case, the RNA of this virus. 17:08 So it's an anti-RNA virus medication. 17:14 You might think of it somewhat parallel to a drug 17:17 many of you may be familiar with called Tamiflu. 17:21 Tamiflu is an antiviral that's used for the influenza. 17:26 And I would say it's not a magic cure, 17:30 it's more like it probably helps a little bit. 17:34 Tamiflu, when you take it, if you take it early on 17:41 right in the first day or two, well then you'll have, 17:45 your course of that particular flu will be a few days shorter. 17:49 Statistically. 17:51 They tested a whole bunch of people and the ones that took it 17:53 they had a little bit shorter course of it. 17:55 ~ Maybe a little less severe too? 17:56 Yeah. 17:58 And that's the thinking. 17:59 And certainly, in someone who is very symptomatic, 18:03 someone that's hospitalized, you know, where things are getting 18:08 more serious, it's more or less try everything. 18:10 Yeah, let's give it to them. 18:11 Let's see if we can get some, you know, benefit 18:13 by blocking this virus with that. 18:17 But I don't think it's like, wow, we'll pass this around 18:23 and then the virus will be gone. 18:25 It'll be more like, we can take it and maybe have a 18:28 little less symptoms. 18:31 ~ Does it have any serious side effects? 18:34 You know, all drugs have side effects. 18:38 And the side effects, if you want to think about it in a 18:44 more broader scope, God designed the body to work a certain way. 18:49 He designed the immune system to work a certain way. 18:53 And He designed our immune system to get us through 18:57 life on this earth clear to the end of time. 19:01 He's planned our immune systems to protect us. 19:04 He designed them to do that. 19:06 And as a general principle, the best thing we can do 19:10 is to cooperate with God's plans 19:14 rather than, you know, interfering with them. 19:19 The more drastically you interfere with them, 19:22 the more likely there's going to be side effects, complications, 19:25 this is going to effect this, this is going to effect this. 19:28 You know, the body is extremely complex. 19:32 And to think you can throw a drug in to fix one thing 19:36 is a little bit naive because everything effects 19:41 everything else in the body. 19:42 And we find that with most of the drugs 19:45 and medications out there. 19:49 Not saying there aren't times or places 19:51 where they would be appropriate. 19:53 I certainly wouldn't want to say "No, don't take this," you know. 19:56 But on the other hand, really, the less drugs we take, 20:02 the more we use the natural drugs... 20:05 You know, these things here. 20:07 You know, these are lemons. 20:10 You know, God put a lot of stuff in here that's 20:14 really good for us, that really enhances your immune system. 20:18 I mean, just taking some lemon juice and water every morning 20:21 when you get up does a lot of things for the body. 20:24 Not just, but one of the things is it helps your immune system. 20:27 There's a lot of vitamin C in there. 20:29 There's other substances in here that help 20:31 the body's immune system. 20:34 And when you start going through every fruit, and vegetable, 20:37 and seed, you start finding out that, wow, there's all kinds of 20:41 stuff in here that helps. 20:42 Some of them we're beginning to understand. 20:45 There's a number of different substances 20:47 in garlic that are really good. 20:50 And the more we can use God's natural remedies 20:55 and go down that road, I think we're going to find will work 20:59 in harmony with the way God designed our body to work. 21:05 You know, I'm more of a theologian 21:08 than into medical issues. 21:12 So I have a theological question. 21:15 Did God create the immune system before or after sin? 21:20 And if He created it before sin, why would it be, 21:23 because there were no infections and diseases before sin? 21:27 Okay, so you ask a theological question. 21:29 Let me give you a theological answer. 21:34 When did God create the plan of salvation? 21:38 Oh, in the days of eternity. 21:40 Okay. I think that's our answer. 21:43 So basically He gave us an immune system knowing that 21:46 perhaps if we made the wrong choice we would need it. 21:51 Yeah, and I think to a certain degree, a properly functioning 21:58 immune system probably has roles and functions 22:01 in a perfect world. 22:05 And we don't know what those are because 22:07 we haven't lived in a perfect world. 22:09 But we know that microbes have a role. 22:15 We know that, you know, they're part of your digestive system 22:18 and how everything works there. 22:21 We know that they're essential. 22:22 I mean, vitamin B12, which is absolutely essential for life, 22:27 is only made by microbes. 22:31 So we know that microbes are part of eternity's plan for life 22:36 as God designed it. 22:38 And the ability to respond to them in certain ways, 22:44 respond to other things that weren't supposed to be 22:46 in the body, and get rid of them. 22:49 Just repairing damage. 22:51 You know, we talk about the cell mutates a little bit; 22:54 well that's really sort of becoming pre-cancerous 22:56 or moving down the road to cancer. 22:58 The immune system can identify that and get rid of it. 23:01 Will that happen in a perfect world? 23:03 Well, maybe. We don't know. 23:05 I mean, there's ultraviolet light. 23:07 Ultraviolet light can do those type of things. 23:10 You know, I mean, I think even in a perfect world 23:14 we'll continue to grow new skin on a monthly basis. 23:18 You replace your skin about once a month. 23:20 So I think there's a lot of things about how God, 23:24 the intricacy's about how God designed things to work 23:29 that we'll continue to study and learn about 23:32 throughout eternity. 23:34 And I think we'll be surprised at some of the intricate, 23:38 delicate balances that God put in these systems 23:41 to make everything run just right. 23:43 It would be kind of difficult to be an evolutionist 23:46 if you really studied the immune system. 23:48 The immune system is only one system 23:50 of many that we have. 23:53 And yet, it is so complex. 23:55 And it hasn't even been totally decoded. 23:56 There's so much more to study. 23:58 We're barely on the edge of the immune system right now. 24:01 So it speaks of a Creator. 24:03 Yeah, it does. Almost everything does. 24:05 Well, you think about it, God put the potential there 24:09 when He put this thing together. 24:11 Once sin came, He didn't have to go back and re-engineer this 24:15 to take care of a surprise that He wasn't aware of. 24:18 He knew what was coming. 24:20 And the preventative aspects that are in here 24:24 were there from the beginning. 24:26 I was not a lemon water drinker. 24:27 My wife got me into that. 24:28 So every morning that's my job. 24:30 I prepare the lemon water while she's in the shower. 24:33 When she comes out, "Is it ready?" 24:34 "Yeah, it's ready." 24:35 So yeah, and it works. 24:37 Every morning we do the lemon water. 24:40 We serve a very faithful and a very thorough God. 24:43 In Latin America, lemon cures everything. 24:49 True. 24:51 I thought it was the jalapenos. 24:55 Well, that's only in Mexico. 24:56 Oh, okay. 24:58 Well, that's as far as everything... 25:03 You know, I'm looking at our time. 25:04 Touch on something very quickly. 25:07 I just began to hear in the last couple of weeks, 25:10 COVID toes. 25:12 What is or what are COVID toes? 25:15 Okay, this COVID virus, you know, we know the 25:19 common respiratory symptoms of cough, and fever, 25:22 and those type of things, 25:24 but it apparently can make a viral rash. 25:27 And for some reason, this rash only appears on the feet 25:31 or lower legs. 25:32 So just the lower extremities down there, 25:35 particularly the feet and toes. 25:37 It's very similar in appearance to a chickenpox rash. 25:40 So you can add that to your list of symptoms to look for. 25:44 You know, along with loss of smell or taste 25:47 which might be there, there might or might not be this rash. 25:52 It clears up and goes away when the infection passes. 25:56 But yeah, it's another phenomenon they've discovered. 26:00 And it's been identified. 26:02 If you want to see a picture of it, just Google it. 26:04 You can find it there. 26:07 And yeah, so there is a rash. 26:09 ~ You know, today we had lunch. 26:11 And we practice social distancing here. 26:13 And Pastor Bohr said, "I can't smell the food." 26:17 We said, "Go home!" 26:20 We told him to go home. 26:22 You should have seen, because I said it very seriously, 26:24 you should have seen the faces of everybody at the table 26:27 when I said that. 26:29 They were ready to bail out. 26:32 Well, it's appropriate to be cautious in these times. 26:37 Because every week there's some new thing, you know. 26:39 This virus takes so many forms and expresses itself 26:43 in so many ways, there's something new almost every week. 26:46 That's why we have to keep having you back here. 26:49 To sort of keep us up-to-date with this stuff. 26:53 So, we only have like 55 seconds left. 26:57 Not much time. 26:59 I just want to take this opportunity to address 27:02 everybody who is watching. 27:03 We appreciate your support at Secrets Unsealed. 27:07 First of all, your prayers. 27:09 Crucially important. 27:10 And then we also appreciate your financial support. 27:14 It's a blessing. 27:15 It helps us continue preparing programs such as this 27:18 that help the general public. 27:20 So now I'll let C.A. bring it to a close. 27:24 We want to thank Dr. Teske. 27:26 You know, it's a blessing for us to have the health officer 27:29 for our county as chairman of our board; 27:31 a committed Seventh-day Adventist physician. 27:33 And I don't know if you can be better than that. 27:34 A committed Christian physician is the best of both worlds. 27:38 So we thank you for your support. 27:40 We thank you for watching. 27:41 We invite you to watch us again each week. 27:44 New things coming each week. 27:46 We have questions, we have answers. 27:48 And we have our good doctor to help us 27:50 work his way through all of this. 27:51 And so, until we see you again, 27:54 we wish you God's very, very best. |
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