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00:05 - Oh, yes, stay right there. 00:08 Stay right down there we will right back. 00:13 Welcome everybody to A Talking Donkey International 00:16 in our new television series Country Wisdom. 00:19 - Let's set the tone for this new series of ours, 00:22 it's found in Proverbs 4. 00:24 "Let your eyes look directly forward 00:27 and your gaze be straight before you 00:30 ponder the path of your feet 00:33 and then all your ways we'll be sure." 00:36 - Join us now for Country Wisdom. 00:43 You know, in fishing on a large body of water, 00:46 you say, well, why fish? 00:47 I can't see the fish but there's evidence 00:50 the people say they've caught fish. 00:52 There's once in a while somebody said, yeah 00:54 I saw one jump over there all of these things. 00:57 in life hope, is there any hope? 01:00 Well, we can talk with a lot of people who have 01:03 a lot of hope because they've seen God working in their life 01:07 where there was no hope before. 01:09 Stay tuned to hear some of these amazing stories 01:12 about God has reached into lives 01:14 and given hope where there was no hope. 01:19 (soft upbeat music) 01:30 Wow Dr. Steve, we're out here in your boat 01:32 fishing a little bit. 01:34 - We're trying to. 01:35 - There you go, trying to, why do you fish? 01:39 - Well, I wish I knew for sure why I fish. 01:41 (laughing) 01:43 But as long as I can remember, I love the idea of fishing 01:49 and there was always something just wanting to see 01:52 that fish, I was excited every time I got to chance 01:59 when I was a kid, my parents took me out one time 02:01 and we went to Whitney portal 02:03 and there's a pond there where there were trout fishing. 02:06 And man, I wanted to fish with them. 02:08 - I think maybe, maybe God gave us a little bit 02:11 of fishing in our, in our blood. 02:14 I mean, you think about Jesus 02:17 he met the disciples fishing. 02:19 And he didn't say, I don't want you to fish anymore. 02:22 He actually instructed them a little bit 02:23 on how to fish with his help right? 02:25 - Yeah, well, he said he even changed 02:28 their direction of fishing a little bit. 02:30 He says, "I'll make you fishers of men," 02:33 but he didn't do that before he gave them some hope 02:37 in what he was gonna do with them, for them. 02:40 - No, that brings up an interesting point. 02:43 Why fish out here? 02:45 How do you know there's a single fish in this lake? 02:47 - Because if it were up to me, 02:49 we would not be out in this boat on a day like today. 02:52 And I look, and I think, there's a reason 02:54 we're the only fishermen out here right now. 02:57 - The only crazy people. 02:58 (laughing) 02:59 But, basically I think it's because you talk to others 03:03 and they say, fishing's good out on this Lake. 03:05 And I've seen other people catch fish. 03:08 So ergo, there must be fish. 03:10 - Right and in fact, before I started fishing here, 03:13 this winter or this spring, 03:16 it was one of those things where, 03:19 I had someone say, boy I heard they're really 03:21 catching them down there at Lake Siskiyou. 03:23 And I fished here before this is not the first time I fished 03:27 and we caught fish. 03:30 So I have hope that there's fishing 03:32 there's fish to be caught. 03:34 - There you go, God never wants us 03:37 to base there on the gospel side. 03:39 He just doesn't want us to go blindly with no hope, 03:43 no faith, He gives us evidence doesn't He. 03:45 - And I think you were just touching on that 03:47 that Jesus gave the disciples evidence 03:51 before he went and asked him to do something 03:53 as crazy as being fishers of men. 03:55 - Right, you think about it here. 03:57 We've been fishing here for a little while now 03:59 and we've not even, well, I think maybe I had a bite or two 04:02 but kinda like the disciples. 04:04 We haven't caught anything and we're just, we're just hoping 04:10 that there'll be something here. 04:12 But they came in after a night of fishing and he says, 04:16 "Well, have you caught anything?" 04:18 I can hear him sort of saying I like we would nowadays. 04:21 Well, boys you had anything, any luck. 04:24 (laughing) 04:25 - Yeah, yeah. 04:26 - And they says, no, man, we fished all night. 04:31 And of course back there, their nets weren't as invisible 04:34 as the fishing lines that we use today, they could be seen. 04:37 And so they fished at night. 04:39 So the fish couldn't see their nets. 04:43 - That was a really interesting story because he said, 04:45 "No go on now it's daytime cast out, 04:49 they said, you're crazy. 04:50 - Yeah, no one ever does that, we worked hard all night. 04:53 We didn't catch them, there's no hope 04:55 - Yeah they thought Jesus must be what, 04:58 a city slicker or something because 04:59 He had no idea how to fish. 05:01 - Well, you know, Oh Peter, you know, he was one of those 05:03 quintessential fishermen that he just kinda knew fishing, 05:08 you know, he and James and John, they had it together. 05:13 - They grown up there doing that. 05:15 - That's, you know, other, their parents there 05:17 or fishermen that, so they were fishermen. 05:20 And so he says, he says there's hope. 05:26 - Oops 05:27 - Nope, got up on the bottom. 05:28 (laughter) 05:30 - Got my hopes up there for a moment. 05:33 - Nope, no hope now 05:35 - I'm hung up now 05:38 - But that's they says, you know 05:41 he didn't really doesn't know what he's talking about 05:43 but we will, we'll go ahead and humor him, you know? 05:47 - Yeah, well, 05:49 Jesus spent so much time on the sea of Galilee. 05:52 One of the stories to me that is so exciting, 05:55 he'd preached to the crowds 05:56 for several days and he's so tired. 05:59 And he tells the disciples goes down the legs that get 06:01 in the boat and score with the other side. 06:04 Now, today it is kinda cold out here as lightly, storming. 06:07 It was raining earlier, but they got out on that sea. 06:11 And it started really storming. 06:13 So much so the Bible said basically 06:15 the boat was filling up with water. 06:17 These are seasoned fishermen 06:20 and they're figuring they're going to die. 06:22 No, you remember what happened next. 06:26 - What was Jesus doing? 06:28 - He was sound asleep in the back of the boat 06:31 and Peter just goes, nuts, goes up to him 06:34 sees him at the last moment is the Lord don't you care? 06:38 We're going to die. 06:40 - And of course he cared because he cares about all of us 06:43 not just his best friends, 06:46 the fact that he was sleeping 06:48 didn't indicate he didn't care. 06:50 It indicated his trust in the father. 06:53 - Yes, yeah, no total trust and then, He stands up 06:58 in the boat, says raising his hands says peace be still. 07:00 And then all that water immediately stills. 07:03 And I think about the storms in in our lives 07:07 everybody today has got storms and their whole lives 07:09 And I'm like, Peter, I'm the one going 07:13 what are we going to do? 07:13 What are we going to do? 07:14 Don't you even care? 07:17 - Yeah, but he stilled that water. 07:19 It just moved out like a mirror 07:20 and immediately bible says got to the other shore, 07:24 the shore they're going to now 07:26 is really interesting to me, 07:27 that when he got in the boat in the first place. 07:30 He said, let's go where to the far shore, to the far shore 07:34 with go to the other side, when God did you to go someplace 07:37 he doesn't leave you in the middle. 07:40 ( laughter) 07:41 - He dint say I'll meet you over there. 07:42 - Yeah, and it also doesn't mean 07:44 that there won't be storms on the way to the goalpost. 07:48 - Absolutely, and of course we're facing that 07:50 a lot of that storm right now, there you go. 07:54 We're, we're facing that 07:57 that storm right now in this pandemic. 08:00 a lot of us are wondering, is this the 08:03 just the beginning of that final storm, you know? 08:07 And there are a lot of people 08:10 in the world if they have no hope 08:13 if they don't have a belief in God, that if they 08:16 if they haven't seen how he works in your life 08:20 they don't have any hope there. 08:22 They look at the world and they're going, man. 08:25 You know, it's just hopeless. 08:27 In fact, there's an estimate that at least 75,000 people 08:34 in the United States are likely to die from suicide 08:37 because of their loss of hope because of the depression, 08:43 the, the the just there's nothing 08:44 that they are looking forward to. 08:48 - They don't see a way out. 08:49 - I know you mentioned that the suicide and the depression 08:52 Jesus had gone over to that other shore. 08:54 And the first thing to net, there was a guy 08:57 who was absolutely crazy. 08:59 I mean, the Bible says he had 2000 demons in him. 09:02 He's naked, he's screaming. 09:04 He he'd been cutting himself. 09:06 He'd been, you know, self mutilating. 09:09 He'd been doing all these things. 09:12 And what does it say? 09:13 All the disciples ran away. 09:14 That's the category. 09:16 I'd probably find myself is this crazy man comes out 09:20 on the tomb and you're not going to, 09:22 it looks like he's going to kill you, 09:23 but Jesus stood his ground. 09:25 And he cast out those 2000 demons. 09:28 That's, what's exciting, whatever demons we've got 09:31 in our lives, whatever you call it 09:32 whatever's going on in your life. 09:34 God can re leaf them. 09:36 - Right there, there's no issue with him. 09:38 And that's one of the things that 09:39 that a lot of people, they don't understand. 09:42 The hugeness of God. 09:44 I've been reading a little bit about 09:46 some of the cosmological evidences for God. 09:49 And from the from the tiniest Atom and subatomic particles 09:56 which are increasingly more complex 09:59 we are amazed to understand to the hugeness 10:03 of the of the universe maybe a billion billion galaxies, 10:10 similar to ours. 10:14 The, the fact that God is in control of all of that is, 10:19 You almost wonder, why does he care about us on this planet? 10:24 - Yeah, yeah I want people to know that too 10:27 that as we've talked about this, that, yeah now 10:31 Jesus will take care of everything while it's true. 10:35 There can be stages of that. 10:36 There could be situations where you're 10:38 you're a medical doctor, not in the profession, 10:41 probably speaking of at the moment, but 10:43 but people may need some other help to get 10:46 to those stages of getting life together. 10:49 Again, is that a correct statement? 10:51 - Absolutely, and, not only does he 10:55 give us the spiritual health that we need, but sometimes 11:00 he is given us the medical help, not just it's 11:09 it's not just the spiritual help, 11:12 but sometimes he's equipped us with knowledge 11:15 about the incredible increase in knowledge has given us 11:19 the ability to do things, to, to help people who are 11:22 in trouble like that. 11:23 They, they can have a lot better a result. 11:26 And what we really want to be able of course to 11:32 do is to rely on Jesus because he's, he's 11:34 he really is the final solution to this. 11:37 - He's the only solution. 11:38 - Amen, Yeah, only true total solution. 11:41 Right? The only, not only total solution 11:43 but there are times when counseling 11:45 or perhaps even a medication might make a difference 11:50 in getting you to where you can calm your mind enough 11:54 To be able to hear his voice more clearly. 11:57 - You know, when you were talking 11:58 about the man who was just crazy, essentially 12:02 who had no hope in his life, you know, was violent 12:06 to a self and to others and Jesus didn't run for them. 12:11 He helped him. 12:13 One time I heard someone who made the statement 12:17 that no Christian should ever be depressed. 12:22 And if there hadn't been other people around 12:26 I wanted to rise up because I've had periods 12:32 not as bad as that man in the Bible 12:34 but I've had periods where I'm not really coping. 12:38 I have had two periods in my life where, because 12:42 of circumstances and brain chemistry and hormones, 12:45 what, the perfect storm of it all 12:48 where I have everything has looked black, 12:52 it's been like a black wet blanket over me 12:56 and I can barely breathe. 12:58 - And you're a Christian who love Jesus. 12:59 - Yes, In fact, if I hadn't had that, that glimmer of hope 13:05 I don't know that I would still be here today. 13:08 When I was only 16, 13:11 I stood in front of the medicine cabinet at home. 13:15 And my mother had quite the aray because she had a problem 13:19 with prescription drugs. 13:22 And I stood there trying to figure out what combination 13:26 of which ones would just make it all go away. 13:30 And to this day, I'm not entirely certain why 13:35 I shut the cabinet door and walked away. 13:38 I'm pretty sure that some angel said no, don't 13:43 don't do that because this is momentary. 13:46 You've got this whole life. 13:48 But at the moment, I didn't know it. 13:49 I didn't feel like I had anything to look forward to. 13:52 - Let me interrupt for just a second 13:55 because people need to understand, 13:58 God created us for eternity. 13:59 Not for tonight. 14:01 This was a little bitty blip down here 14:03 he will get us through this to the other side 14:06 where everything is glorious. 14:08 - Yes, and that hope is all that gets some of us 14:12 through a day or through our lives. 14:16 And you need to work to keep that hope in front of you. 14:20 So that even in times, that aren't very, very dark. 14:24 I know a lot of people journal, 14:27 I've not been disciplined enough to develop that habit 14:29 I should but I haven't. 14:32 But there are times where I've had to stop 14:35 and think and remind myself of all the ways, 14:39 some tiny some bigger that, a little blessing, 14:45 the little times that as small as going out for a walk 14:49 and all of a sudden noticing this tiny flower 14:51 in the middle of a bunch of weeds or something 14:53 and it just makes you smile. 14:56 That little bit of hope. 14:57 I'll stop and consciously think God 15:00 thank you for pointing that out to me 15:01 someday I'm going to need to remember that. 15:04 - Yeah, there was, I don't know if you guys 15:06 this was many years ago, but when I became a Christian 15:10 I heard of this guy named was Glenn Coon. 15:12 And when he went around that's country touring 15:16 on the ABCs of prayer, ask believe and claim. 15:20 And he always talked about, we need to praise God. 15:22 Even when there's days we don't feel like it, 15:26 and if you don't feel like it, he says 15:27 hold your breath for five minutes. 15:29 And at the end of the five minutes 15:31 see if you can praise God for this breath 15:34 - Nobody can hold her for five minutes he's gonna pass out. 15:37 - I've been praising God way before that. 15:39 ( laughter) 15:40 - But It's really true. 15:41 You'll think about it when you start. 15:43 I have journaled on for many years and it really is a 15:47 is a high point while I'm when I do journal 15:50 because I could have, I'm the kind of guy 15:53 that can get in bed at night, lay down, close my eyes. 15:57 Thank you, Lord, for the food I'm for partaking of. 15:59 Wait a second. 16:00 It's not that time. 16:03 I'm starting to go to sleep already. 16:07 - You know, that's him. 16:09 - I lay down, I'm gone. 16:12 - So it give you a little focus. 16:14 You can thank God for everything of the day 16:17 and you can do this 16:19 and do that kinda get you on that journey. 16:21 But I think especially, as we, as you mentioned 16:24 about suicide, the devil wants to destroy people. 16:28 He, he wants to depress people. 16:30 He wants to make everything look black 16:32 and bleak and totally Drury. 16:34 And it's not that way in, in life. 16:37 There's always somebody who cares and on this earth 16:40 even if there's nobody who cares, God does God in the form 16:45 of Jesus Christ came to this earth and died for you. 16:49 And so there's somebody who really cares, you know 16:52 that they will give up their life for you and all he has. 16:55 So they ought to know that, Hey, there, there is hope 16:58 lots of hope more than us knowing. 17:00 There's a few fish in the Lake. 17:01 There's a lot of hope, right? 17:03 - That's all right. 17:04 Speaking of a lot of hope, they told me that 17:06 just a day and a half ago, 17:08 they put a bunch of more fish in this Lake 17:11 for us to fish for. 17:13 I haven't been able to tell it yet today but. 17:16 - He must've put him in on the other side of the Lake 17:18 and they haven't gotten this far. 17:21 - I think about I was down in Costa Rica 17:26 and met this, this old fellow that 17:30 his grandfather, his daughter-in-law, his daughter-in-law. 17:33 Yeah, his son had died already. 17:34 Daughter-in-law ended up with cancer 17:38 and she had a 10 year old boy 17:40 and she needed to get to the hospital for treatment. 17:44 Who else? 17:45 He, in that day, the grandpa was there 17:48 with the grandson and they waved goodbye to mom. 17:52 The only problem is that was the last time 17:54 they ever saw a mom. 17:54 She died his hospital. 17:57 He is totally depressed now. 17:58 He is just feeling horrible. 18:00 He's got a 10 year old kid he's 18:03 in his late seventies and just feeling rotten. 18:05 Then he discovers he's got cancer. 18:09 And now the cancer is starting to get so bad. 18:12 He's in pain all the time 18:13 but he doesn't want him to get better 18:15 because he wants to die. 18:17 But it's getting so bad. 18:18 He decides I'm gonna do something about it. 18:19 I'm gonna speed up the process. 18:22 So he, he goes to his house. 18:24 They took me to his house that day. 18:27 Not the day he was going to hang himself. 18:30 This was after the fact, he takes me 18:31 up the spiral staircase and say, you see that beam up there. 18:35 Just that I threw a rope over that beam. 18:38 And he said, I got to use both hands. 18:41 Here I got to describe this to you. 18:43 I took that rope and put it 18:44 - over my head, I was ready to jump down and stairwell 18:46 when I heard music coming from the neighbor next door. 18:50 And he thought I needed to play a little bit of music too 18:53 because maybe someone will hear me coughing 18:56 or choking or whatever, horrible situation. 18:59 He said, I better turn on the TV. 19:00 So I picked the noose up, walked downstairs. 19:03 Now the interesting thing is that the day before 19:07 I know the people, at the television studio 19:10 and the engineer there says it had bothered me so long. 19:14 They had a terrible signal, terrible television signal. 19:18 He said, God impressed him that day 19:20 he had to do something with that signal. 19:21 But he said we had no money for parts 19:23 that we needed so he said. 19:24 I went in the backroom when I started rummaging through 19:27 all these boxes and all this stuff 19:29 to find something after quite a while, he said 19:32 I came up with this one part, I needed that part. 19:35 He said, I needed one more part or kept praying. 19:37 He kept digging through boxes, 19:39 going through all this stuff. 19:40 I found that other part. 19:43 I got so excited. 19:44 I went in, I put those parts in 19:47 turned on our set and we hand up the most powerful signal 19:50 in all the stations in that area in San Jose, Costa Rica. 19:55 Wow, So exciting. 19:57 Now back, to our old man 19:59 who was downstairs with the TV changer 20:01 and he figures I'm gonna find the best channel 20:03 with the loudest sounds. 20:04 And the greatest thing going. 20:06 That's the one I'll stop on. 20:07 So he's flipping through channel. 20:08 All of a sudden he stops on this channel 20:11 that our guy had fixed. 20:14 It's just really beautiful and bright. 20:16 And there's a preacher on there 20:17 right at that moment and says, 20:19 whatever you do, Jesus loves you. 20:21 You remember that whatever is happening in your life, 20:24 Jesus loves you. 20:26 He stops. 20:27 He looks, and there's a phone number at the bottom. 20:31 He calls up the station a lady answers. 20:36 He says, I'm going to kill myself today. 20:38 Is there any reason I shouldn't do it? 20:41 Well, yes, yes he knows. 20:44 God loves you who died for you? 20:46 He gave his life 20:47 because we want you to live and have happiness. 20:51 She said, you need to listen to this program. 20:53 She think it's gonna be on certain times. 20:56 He said, what day? 20:57 What today? 20:58 No, no She said, tomorrow right at this time 21:02 silence on the other end of the phone. 21:04 Well, I guess I can wait a day to kill myself. 21:10 Well, the next day, phone rings. 21:16 What times is that preacher gonna be on 21:18 is he on again? 21:19 She looked and says, yes, he's on tomorrow at the same time, 21:24 silence again on the phone. 21:25 Pretty soon he says, well, I guess I can wait one more day 21:29 to kill myself. 21:32 Third day, he calls up. 21:34 He said, would you please tell me more about this Jesus. 21:41 I wanna know more about this Jesus. 21:45 And she got together with him. 21:46 The two of them began to study and all the time. 21:48 And he calls her his angel. 21:51 And I've been there meeting with them and talking with them. 21:53 God totally healed his life. 21:55 Healed him of cancer, the grandson and he are just having 21:58 a wonderful life together. 22:00 God saved him that is the power of God 22:05 - He saw hope right when he needed it. 22:08 And it wasn't an accident. 22:09 That's a miracle right there. 22:12 But you said something that just hit me too. 22:15 The woman at the station, when he called, 22:18 when she had an answer to give him 22:21 later he calls her his angel. 22:25 Not only do we have to work ourselves to study 22:28 to build a relationship, to keep hope for ourselves 22:32 but we can be somebody else's hope, 22:35 we can be the one that says 22:37 just the right thing at the right time. 22:41 - Very true, we are God's hands an extension of God's love. 22:46 - It's interesting. 22:49 On Sunday, two days ago 22:50 I was out here fishing with other friends 22:54 and we were trolling around the Lake back. 22:56 Just kind of right across, over there. 22:59 We were watching a couple of people kayaking 23:02 and they had their fishing rods out. 23:04 And pretty soon Tim says, he says, Hey 23:09 that guy just fell in. 23:10 He turns his kayak over and we go, wow. 23:16 And I watched for a minute 23:17 and he got the kayak turned back over 23:20 and he was resting over. 23:22 It just kinda, you know, up like you would 23:25 but he couldn't get back in. 23:27 And I says, I think we'd better go over and help him. 23:30 And so we brought our lines in 23:32 I rode over there and we got positioned 23:34 so that we could help him get back in his kayak. 23:38 And he was go, man 23:39 I didn't think I was going to be able to get back in. 23:42 And so that's like even something as simple 23:45 as a little physical help, like that is the kind 23:47 of things that we can do to help others. 23:50 - No you guys nailed it. 23:51 I think it's, it's paying attention to others. 23:54 Where might be able to offer some kind of help. 23:57 I think about this lady in central America that better. 24:03 Well, actually she was in South America 24:06 and she said, you know, my life was wonderful. 24:08 I had everything going in life. 24:10 Well I had two wonderful children 24:12 a good husband and everything. 24:13 And all of a sudden, one day one of my children got sick 24:17 and in a few days died, 24:19 Oh, and a just killed her. 24:21 She was just distraught over that. 24:23 I couldn't imagine it. 24:25 And within a month, the other child got sick and died. 24:28 Now she's at the second funeral and 24:30 and she just can't believe what's going on. 24:34 And pretty soon the husband loose distraught he sets fire 24:38 to himself in front of her and he just lights it up. 24:41 And I mean, the list, this went, on and on. 24:43 I can't imagine the things this woman went through. 24:47 And then she loses her job. 24:49 Then her car, that she loved, its repossessed. 24:53 And now she's only got piano lessons, piano lessons. 24:56 is the only thing she's going to sustain her situation 24:59 and sustain life. 25:02 And after a while they repossessed her piano 25:06 has absolutely nothing. 25:07 Now there's nothing in life. 25:09 And this dear lady, she, one day she's at friend's house 25:15 and he takes some pills out of one friend, isn't there. 25:17 And then she's at another friend's house. 25:19 She takes some more pills, at another friend's house. 25:21 And she does this for several weeks. 25:22 She collects all these pills. 25:23 And finally, one day she locks the door in her house. 25:28 She goes in her bedroom. 25:29 She takes, yeah, as a doctor. 25:31 You'll appreciate this. 25:33 Thanks. 300 pills. 25:35 - Wow 25:37 - I said, what happened? She says well, 25:38 I went to sleep 25:40 for about a half hour and I woke up and felt okay. 25:43 How does that happen? 25:45 Unless they're sugar pills and they weren't. 25:48 Well, she's not going to be deterred. 25:50 She goes to this whole circuit and cycle again. 25:53 And this time she thinks this is 25:55 this is really going to be it. 25:56 And she does it again with hundreds and hundreds of pills 26:01 still nothing, not even, not even sleepiness this time. 26:05 And then finally, third time, I mean, you know, some 26:08 some people will try and come suicide as a call for help. 26:11 - Right. 26:12 - This lady was not calling me. 26:13 And she was in earnest. 26:14 And this day she locked the front door. 26:16 Nobody knows she's home. 26:18 She locked the bathroom door. 26:20 She takes it. 26:21 She splits the wrist in a hot tub 26:22 of water who gets down in the tub and just relaxes. 26:26 The next thing she wakes up in the hospital 26:29 up in a hospital, someone thought, where is she 26:32 they kick the door down, go through the house 26:34 come and find her in the tub, blood everywhere, haul her to 26:37 the hospital and save her. 26:40 Now, while she's in the hospital, the, the nurse comes in 26:44 and says, you need to listen to this. 26:46 And it switched to a channel. 26:48 And on the preacher comes and says, Jesus loves you so much. 26:50 You know, as the same story, what ever is going on 26:53 in your life? 26:54 You know, God loves you. 26:55 Don't give up. 26:57 God loves you. 26:58 And Terry, you know, he and I traveled all over the world 27:02 you know, filming and stories and things. 27:04 We got to spend time with this lady, 27:06 such a sweet sweet lady through all of this mess. 27:09 God gave her hope. 27:11 (calm music) 27:29 I wrote a little book a while back called overcoming 27:32 the three D's depression, discouragement, despair. 27:35 It's helped thousands of people. 27:37 If you'd like a copy 27:39 you can log on to talking donkey international.org 27:42 and for a small gift, he can be yours. 27:44 Please do it today. 27:46 ( soft music) 28:01 - Thanks for joining us for country wisdom. 28:04 - See you next time. 28:06 (soft music) |
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