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00:03 - Welcome, everyone. 00:05 We're excited to share some country wisdom with you. 00:07 - King Solomon had a thing or two to say 00:09 about the path to wisdom. 00:11 In Proverbs 4, he wrote, 00:13 "Let your eyes look directly forward 00:16 and your gaze be straight before you. 00:19 Keep straight the path of your feet, 00:21 and all your ways will be sure." 00:23 - Join us now for Country Wisdom. 00:25 (gentle upbeat music continues) 00:35 (crickets chirping) 00:40 (Janice chuckles) 00:41 - Well, we've got the cameras ready, and we're are. 00:44 - Yeah, well, and it's- 00:45 - There ready to go. - Let's see. 00:46 Yeah, it should be about time. 00:48 You're looking for an interviewee, huh? 00:50 - Yep, you said she was coming. 00:52 - Well, actually, she's already here. 00:54 (crickets chirping) 00:57 It's you today. 00:59 I know this is kind of pulling a little fast one on you, 01:01 but it's- 01:03 - You could've warned me. (chuckles) 01:04 - Yeah, go ahead and sit in the hot seat, 01:05 and I'll tell you what the topic is in a minute, okay? 01:07 (Janice laughs) 01:08 - Oh, this is fun. 01:10 (Jim laughs) 01:12 - Hey, you look pretty good over there. 01:14 - Oh, this is a little different. 01:15 It's not different that I look good. 01:17 It's just a different thing over here. 01:18 (both laughing) 01:19 - Okay, touche, touche. 01:21 No, you know, I wanted you over there today 01:23 because I want to interview you. 01:25 - But you already have. 01:26 - Well, this is 01:27 a totally different subject. - We did my testimony, 01:29 and I don't know what else I can come up with for you. 01:32 - Well, let, let me give you an idea. 01:33 You know, for years, 01:35 you've been studying the women of God in the Bible, 01:40 and you've gone to great depths to look at them 01:43 and then portray them to audiences in many places. 01:46 And I just kind of want to ask you, 01:48 what first of all gave you that idea to do that? 01:52 - Well, actually it was helping a classmate of my sons. 01:57 She did not belong to the same church, 02:00 but she was going to a youth conference, 02:03 and you could get scholarships to Christian colleges. 02:08 And she said, "I can't sing," you know, "I can't preach." 02:12 You've got 10 minutes, you know that you can do something. 02:15 She goes, "But they do have 02:17 where you can use other mediums." 02:20 And she goes, I would like to portray Noah's wife. 02:23 I wanna tell the story of the flood 02:25 and what it might have really been like for her, 02:28 think about it a different way. 02:30 And I was intrigued by that. And so I said, "Sure." 02:33 And I studied a little, wrote it, you know, 02:38 and I realized it was so hard 02:39 to pack that story into 10 minutes. 02:42 That was the hard part. 02:44 But we did it. And she did win a scholarship. 02:49 And I thought, you know, 02:50 I've gotta redo that whole thing and put in all the parts 02:54 that I couldn't get in 10 minutes. 02:56 And so. I wrote the fuller length, you know, 02:59 closer to 30-minute version. 03:01 And honestly, I thought, 03:02 "I'm gonna do this for my own congregation 03:04 and that'll be it." 03:06 But other people heard of it, 03:08 so you get invited to another church or a school 03:12 or a women's, you know, Christian women's function. 03:17 - Now, I may be a little, you know, 03:21 not watching every preacher out there, 03:23 but it's very seldom that preachers talk about 03:26 the mighty women and the great women of the Bible. 03:29 - Oh, when I was in high school- 03:31 - You're clenching your jaw. 03:32 - I am clenching my jaw (Jim laughing) 03:34 at the memory. 03:35 It used to just drive me crazy because you would read, 03:39 for instance, about the Exodus, and in scripture, it says, 03:43 it actually tells you how many men there were, 03:46 how many donkeys they had, how many camels, how many this, 03:50 and then you'd get this little line at the end, 03:52 "Ah, plus women and children." 03:55 And the early feminist in me would just, 04:00 oh, that just bothered. 04:01 - Now, you really don't fit a feminist mold, but it was- 04:03 - Okay, no, this was the 70s, all right? 04:06 You know? (Jim laughs) 04:07 But it just bothered me, and it bothered me how many women 04:10 that are mentioned in the Bible aren't even given a name. 04:15 You know, Noah's wife? - Yeah. 04:17 - That's all we know. 04:18 She went through everything that he did 04:21 and doesn't even get, you know, her name in the credits. 04:26 But I began, you know, I never quite gave up on God. 04:30 I just had a chip on my shoulder, you know, 04:32 a little bit angry. 04:34 But then you run across stories, 04:36 I remember distinctly, still in high school, 04:39 and I ran across the story of the daughters of Zelophehad, 04:42 which is not one of the big stories in the Bible. 04:45 Most people, if you mention it, they go, "Zelophehad who?" 04:48 You know, "Phalafol who?" (Jim laughs) 04:52 These five young women went to Moses, and they said, 04:56 "Look, our father died in the wilderness. 05:00 He doesn't have any sons, he's got us. 05:02 We were the ones who worked the land, 05:05 who took care of property, but we can't inherit. 05:09 We're just going to lose everything 05:10 that belonged to our father, and that's not fair." 05:13 And I fully expected the first time I was reading that, 05:17 going, "Ah, you're just gonna have to marry someone 05:20 'cause that's your only salvation." 05:23 Moses, to his credit though, didn't just say, 05:27 "Don't be ridiculous, you're female." 05:29 He said, "Let me go ask God about it." 05:33 And for me, it was like, 05:35 "Well, isn't that what we should do with every decision 05:37 that we have?" (laughs) 05:38 - Amen. Amen. 05:39 - But it impressed me 05:40 that Moses didn't just simply dismiss them. 05:43 And God said, "Yeah, they're right." 05:46 And so the rule after that was women could inherit 05:52 if there was no brother or uncle. 05:54 It wasn't completely what we would call fair, 05:57 but it was sure a big step toward it. 05:59 They just, if they married, 06:01 couldn't marry outside the tribe 06:03 'cause he didn't want one tribe's land 06:05 going to another tribe, - To another tribe, yeah. 06:08 - But that was a huge step. 06:10 And in my mind, I remember distinctly thinking, 06:14 well, maybe God doesn't just dismiss females as being, 06:18 you know, they're just little appendages 06:20 attached to a man, if they're lucky. 06:23 And it began to change my attitude toward God 06:26 and toward some of the patriarchs 06:28 that I would've thought were just, 06:30 you know, misogynistic jerks. 06:32 (Jim laughs) 06:33 - I'm not even gonna go there, but. 06:34 - Let's not. (laughs) 06:36 - Let's fast forward a little bit, 06:38 Give me an idea before we name some of the women, 06:42 gimme an idea how you prepare for, you know, 06:45 to do this portrayal. 06:46 You've done many, but how do you dig into it? 06:49 Give us an idea. - First place I go 06:50 is scripture. 06:51 You might think you know a story, 06:54 but when you're really studying the story, 06:57 things will jump out at you that you missed. 06:59 In fact, that's one reason I do this 07:02 because a lot of these stories, 07:05 whether they involve women or not, you know, 07:07 even people who aren't particularly gung ho Christians, 07:11 go to church all the time, 07:13 they'll like know the story of Noah 07:15 or Daniel in the lions' den, or Jonah, 07:17 some of those biggies. 07:18 But our mental image of those stories 07:21 is kind of like these cute little pictures 07:23 in a children's storybook. 07:26 One-dimensional. 07:30 And we do a disservice when we think, 07:34 "Oh, yeah, I know that story. 07:35 I learned it when I was a kid." 07:37 You go in and you really put yourself 07:40 in their shoes, literally, 07:43 or, you know, trying to mentally do that. 07:45 I also love history. 07:47 I might have mentioned that on an episode or two. 07:49 And so, I'll begin to study, 07:51 what do we know about that time period? 07:55 Because- 07:57 - [Jim] You're gonna immerse yourself in into the culture 07:59 of the time. - Right. 07:59 I don't wanna do what, you know, 08:01 there's a whole genre of historical novels, 08:04 which I don't touch, 08:06 but it's like all they've done is taken a modern woman 08:10 and dressed her in a Tudor costume 08:13 and then called this a historical novel. 08:16 But all of her thoughts, 08:18 everything that's happening to her is completely like, 08:20 "Oh, yeah, that's me, just in a pretty costume." 08:22 - I can tell 08:23 that even the way you're portraying that at the moment, 08:25 it's kind of repugnant to you. 08:26 - It is, it is. 08:28 But first and foremost, I go by scripture 08:31 because I don't want to just be inserting my ideas in there. 08:35 And then I start studying historical records 08:40 from the period. 08:41 And it's incredible some of the things you can find. 08:44 I was asked to do the story of Daniel and his three friends, 08:49 and, you know, I'm a decent actress, 08:51 but I can't portray Daniel. 08:52 You'd never believe it, 08:53 no matter how big a beard I stuck on myself. 08:57 And so, I do it from the perspective of a Babylonian woman 09:02 who was there on the plains of Dura. 09:04 You know, in fact I made her the wife 09:06 of someone who had been teaching these Hebrews 09:09 and had been quite miffed that they, 09:11 he could tell they didn't quite believe it. 09:13 You know, they were learning the things, 09:15 they were doing better than everybody else, 09:17 but he hadn't truly convinced them of, you know, 09:21 the arts he was trying to teach them 09:25 and what it would be like to be on the plains of Dura. 09:28 See what these young men did. 09:29 - You've kind of touched on it a little bit, 09:31 go ahead and if you would take a couple minutes here 09:34 and dig in a little deeper into her character 09:36 of what it was like 09:38 and, you know, maybe portray just a teeny bit of it. 09:42 - Well, you imagine the jealousy 09:46 that these Hebrews inspired? 09:47 We know that Daniel inspired jealousy. 09:49 That's why they set him up in the trap 09:51 of convincing the king to make a law 09:54 where for 30 days people can only pray to you 09:58 because they knew exactly that Daniel wouldn't do it. 10:02 In the story of the fiery furnace, 10:04 we don't even know where Daniel was. 10:06 There's speculation 10:08 that God may have simply given him the stomach flu, 10:12 you know, 24-hour flu. 10:15 It may be that Nebakanezer knew 10:17 "Daniel's not gonna go for this. 10:19 We'll send him on a little diplomatic mission." 10:21 - It's interesting, you know, 10:23 I heard one preacher call some of these things white space. 10:25 You know, it's like you're reading along in the Bible, 10:27 and it just quits. 10:28 There's no more, you know? - Uh-huh. 10:29 And what I do is have to fill that in, 10:34 but within the context of the times that they were in. 10:38 And like I said, not just putting my, 10:40 "Well, wouldn't it be fun if we had her do this?" 10:43 You know, you can't just put your own fiction in there. 10:46 You're simply trying to fill in some of that white space 10:49 and make people think about the story in a different way. 10:53 Because stories reach people where sermons can't. 10:57 - Hi, I'm Steve Hicks, director of Podcast Ministries 11:00 for Talking Donkey International. 11:02 And I'm inviting you to join us for our new daily podcast, 11:06 Monday through Friday, called Something's Happening Here. 11:09 I need you to go to the website 11:11 that's on your screen right now. 11:13 That's the Something's happening Here Facebook page, 11:16 like that page, that will make you a follower of it, 11:19 and you will get all of our content as we create it. 11:22 I look forward to seeing you there. God bless. 11:28 (gentle music) 11:32 - When I got to the well that day, 11:34 I realized I wasn't alone. 11:36 There was a man sitting on the curb stone of the well. 11:40 He was obviously exhausted 11:43 and looked almost as miserable as I felt. 11:46 And I might have felt some pity for him 11:50 if he hadn't also obviously been Jewish. 11:55 The weave of his tunic was definitely Galilean. 11:59 Where had he even come from? 12:01 Most Jews do anything they can to stay out of Samaria, 12:05 which is fine by us. 12:07 (gentle music) 12:11 - [Announcer] Please help Talking Donkey 12:12 produce this important project 12:14 To support the Women of God project. 12:16 go to TalkingDonkeyInternational.org 12:19 and click on the donate button. 12:21 That's TalkingDonkeyInternational.org. 12:27 - I noticed you've done... 12:29 A matter of fact, Terry and I, 12:30 when my wife and I first kind of noticed you 12:33 doing a program someplace and thought, 12:35 "You know, that really touched our hearts," 12:37 you know, from a biblical standpoint, 12:40 from knowing God better. 12:41 And we thought, "We need to, you know, 12:43 see more of Janice and talk with her more." 12:46 And, well, here you are now, you know, with the ministry. 12:49 And we've got a lot more. 12:50 I'll share shortly about that, but, yeah, 12:53 I mean you come at it from a standpoint 12:55 of how can this character touch the people in the audience 12:59 so they draw closer to God? 13:00 It has nothing to do with you. 13:02 You're portraying this person 13:03 to help them live closer to God. 13:06 - Let's look at Rahab. She's again, one of my favorites. 13:09 I have people ask me, you know, which one is your favorite? 13:12 'Cause I think at this point I do 14 or 15 different women. 13:18 And usually, my favorite is whoever I'm just now working on 13:21 or have just finished. 13:22 It's like, there's your newest baby. Rahab. 13:27 I love the story of Jericho. Who doesn't know? 13:29 That's one of those, 13:30 you almost think of it in the terms of a children's story. 13:33 You know, you've got the children's song about, 13:37 well, I guess it's not children's, 13:38 "Joshua Fit The Battle of Jericho," you know. 13:41 We all know about the walls falling down. 13:44 When I got to studying 13:46 and actually reading archeologists reports 13:49 who have worked in Jericho, 13:52 it's like right down the line, 13:54 it's supporting the whole biblical story. 13:57 It's giving you even more reason to trust God 14:00 because when He says something, like two little texts, 14:04 one refers to Rahab living on the wall, 14:07 and one says "in the wall." 14:09 And that's kind of weird "lived in the wall." 14:11 Well, it turns out those walls of Jericho, 14:14 and there were three six-feet thick, 14:18 and they had hollow pockets. 14:19 It wasn't solid brick. 14:22 Well, in between, in those hollow spaces, 14:25 people literally would build their homes 14:27 right up against the wall. 14:29 They found them in the archeology 14:32 because one wall was already there. 14:34 So, poorer people would build against the wall. 14:38 And you could actually look over the wall 14:39 from the top of the roof. 14:41 And they would break through and be able to use that pocket 14:45 for storage or, you know, sleeping, you know, 14:48 stuff the kids in there or whatever. 14:50 (Jim laughs) 14:51 So, she literally did live 14:55 in the wall. - In the wall. 14:57 - And probably had slits. 15:01 Like we think of for archers in those pockets 15:04 so that she could watch, 15:06 because we know she saw those spies approaching. 15:10 So, I'm researching this story 15:12 and trying to put myself in her place. 15:16 I don't know why I'd never noticed it before. 15:20 Why did God send those spies? 15:25 You know, it's a divine appointment that she saw them, 15:29 she recognized probably 'cause she was a good judge 15:31 of the average male and the travelers. 15:34 And she's looking for who might wanna stay here 15:36 and have a good time. 15:40 So, we know it was a divine appointment. 15:43 Why did God impress Joshua to send spies? 15:49 You might think, 15:50 "Well, to judge just how big those walls are." 15:53 You know, how can... 15:54 They never had to touch the walls. 15:56 So, Joshua didn't need to know how thick the walls were. 16:02 You might be thinking, "Oh, well, trying to figure out 16:04 how many soldiers are in the city 16:06 that we might run up against." 16:08 Well, they never had to fight, 16:09 and God knew they weren't going to have to fight. 16:12 They weren't trying to figure out 16:15 how much grain do they have, how much water. 16:18 Because Jericho, actually, 16:20 they've discovered could have withheld a siege 16:22 for a year or more 16:24 because they had enough grain in the city, 16:26 and they had springs of water inside the walls 16:29 that never ran dry. 16:32 And you realize that whole setup was just for Rahab. 16:38 And when you think God put that whole plan in motion 16:44 for one person who just barely even knew who he was. 16:49 - Who happened to be a prostitute. 16:50 - Yeah. You know, she was an innkeeper. 16:52 Some translations say inkeeper, but back then, 16:55 you know, yeah, you can, you know, you get a meal, 16:57 you can sleep on a floor, we'll provide a mat, 17:00 but for a few extra coins there were extra services. 17:03 So, it was a little of both. 17:06 But the fact that you take this person 17:09 in this completely pagan culture 17:11 who somehow there was something in her, 17:14 stories that they knew 17:16 'cause they were terrified of the Israelites, 17:18 they knew how God brought 'em out of Egypt. 17:19 - Matter of fact, in Joshua 2, 17:22 she goes to the spies and said, 17:24 "Your God who parted the seas and killed the other kings," 17:28 you know, "this God, our hearts did quake, 17:30 our hearts did melt." 17:32 - There was something in her that recognized, 17:34 "Your God is the one I want." 17:38 But, I mean, how big could her faith have been? 17:41 How much could she possibly have really known about Yahweh? 17:44 - Yeah, very little. - Not much. 17:47 And yet God responded to that with this whole plan, 17:51 with spies and everything that was completely unnecessary. 17:56 And you think, what would he do to rescue me? 18:00 Look at the trouble he went to to rescue Rahab 18:04 who was not a fine upstanding, you know, 18:06 deaconess in her church. 18:08 And that just hit me. 18:11 It's like how precious each one of us are. 18:15 And so, any young woman who sees my portrayal, 18:19 who watches, who listens to that story, 18:21 and at the end where I talk about that, 18:25 what would he do to rescue you? 18:27 That's what I want them to walk away with, is thinking, 18:31 "I am so precious that he would do anything to get to me." 18:38 - I almost feel like 18:39 that should be the end of the interview. 18:40 And we have a call, 18:42 but you've got- - But I find that 18:43 in every woman. 18:46 Peter's mother-in-law, two verses in the whole Bible, 18:52 Peter says she's sick, 18:54 all we know is she had a fever of some kind, 18:56 Jesus healed her, 18:57 and she got up and started cooking for everyone. 19:01 everyone. 19:03 And one day, I was thinking about her because I thought, 19:09 "Boy, you just couldn't be the same after that, could you?" 19:12 We don't know if she actually was a full believer 19:17 or if she thought her son-in-law was just crazy. 19:20 He'd given up a good job, 19:22 walked off the job to join some crazy cult. 19:26 And so, I put her in a modern setting 19:29 because I could picture her as this, you know, 19:33 east coast Jewish woman 19:35 with this jerk of a son-in-law, you know? 19:37 (Both laugh) 19:38 What scheme is he coming up with now? 19:41 But you cannot encounter Christ, 19:44 you can't have Christ reach out His hand, 19:47 and, you know, heal you, feel that healing within you 19:53 and be the same person, could you? 19:54 - What's so amazing about your portrayals 19:57 and the women you've picked throughout the Bible 20:00 is I think right now in this age we live in, 20:03 we see women have gotta take this whole other role. 20:07 You know, they've gotta be masculine. 20:10 They've gotta be this way or that way. 20:11 But the Bible lays out these women 20:13 as grabbing a hold of God, 20:15 and God lifts them up into incredible ministries, 20:18 into touching so many people. 20:20 Their influence becomes so wide 20:22 simply because they submitted and trusted God. 20:24 - Look at Lydia. Lydia was a businesswoman. 20:28 We clearly know she had smarts 20:31 because she was running a business, and it was a high-end. 20:34 I suppose kind of like today a Wall Street trader 20:36 because it says, you know, "a dealer in purple," 20:39 but I love studying about what went into 20:43 making that purple cloth and who could afford it. 20:47 So, she had a very upper end studio, if you will. 20:53 And here she is for some reason. 20:55 She's not Jewish, 20:57 but she's meeting with the Jewish believers 21:00 about a mile out of town where the river went by 21:04 because all Jewish congregations met where there was water. 21:09 And what did Lydia do? 21:12 She listens to Paul, she accepts Christ and goes, 21:14 "Look, there's water right here," you know, "Let's baptize." 21:17 And her whole household. 21:19 And imagine, all of her clients, you know, 21:22 how many ripples went out from that. 21:24 - Yeah, exactly. 21:25 Speaking of ripples, 21:26 we've got an incredible project 21:29 that you're the major player 21:31 in this project, (Janice laughs) 21:32 and that's creating a series, Women of God. 21:35 Many of these women, 21:36 we want to do them in a spectacular fashion 21:40 to attract hearts and lives. 21:42 But we've already started in a smaller way, 21:45 and one of those was Lot's wife. 21:48 Tell us quickly, - She's another one 21:50 that I did modern. - And I'll say, 21:51 we don't have a lot of time left in the interview. 21:52 Tell us a little bit about Lot's wife. 21:54 We've got that one, as they say, in the can. 21:56 We've got that one filmed. 21:59 - She, I also put modern because quite frankly, 22:03 I kind of related to her. 22:06 We think of her as one of the, 22:08 you know, bad girls of the Bible. 22:10 I read a book that she was in 22:12 that she was one of the bad girls of the Bible. 22:15 But when I read her story, what I was struck with was, 22:19 oh, I literally, but for the grace of God, 22:22 I could so easily be her. 22:25 - You mean cell phone glued to your ear 22:26 in a nice home? (chuckles) 22:28 - Yes, and not doing anything bad. 22:32 You know, probably she was influential, 22:34 her husband was influential, we know, 22:36 so she probably was too, 22:38 probably entertaining important people in town 22:41 and people traveling through. 22:43 But her focus just wasn't where it should have been. 22:48 It was too focused on her little life. 22:53 And it was scary when I read her, 22:58 really read her 22:59 and could put myself lit in her shoes quite easy. 23:03 I could step into those, you know, 23:05 kitten heel pumps really easily. 23:07 And that's how I wrote her. 23:10 Not a bad woman, 23:13 just someone whose focus was here and not there. 23:17 - A little off, yeah. 23:19 Well, I think, like I say, 23:20 I believe you did an incredible portrayal of her, 23:22 and it leaves you, you know, 23:24 when you leave that last scene, and you're saying, you know, 23:27 "I won't look back," 23:29 and then the last second you turn around, and you look back. 23:32 And all of a sudden, it leaves you like, you know, 23:34 "Is that me?" 23:37 - And I did it because I felt 23:38 like that was me too much of the time. 23:42 I mean, I have moments where I rise above and listen to God 23:46 but too much of my life is spent thinking about my life. 23:52 - Yeah, and right now- - It's easy to do. 23:52 - we have that episode posted 23:54 on TalkingDonkeyInternational.org. 23:56 Folks can go there and watch it, but there is more to come. 23:59 And one of 'em I'm excited about 24:01 is we recently filmed in Kentucky 24:03 at the replica of Noah's arc. 24:05 And we had Mrs- 24:07 - [Janice] You cannot get a better backdrop than an arc. 24:09 - [Jim] A 510 foot arc. (Janice laughing) 24:11 - Right. Oh, and they were so delightful to work with. 24:15 And, as you know, because you were there, 24:18 being able to film from an angle, you know, 24:21 where the public isn't allowed, 24:22 but you've got it looming in the background, 24:24 'cause we were back in an area 24:26 that's more of a little service road. 24:28 And I thought, you know, 24:30 it's an incredible story that I tell, 24:33 it's an incredible story in the scriptures, 24:36 but visually, to have the arc looming over you 24:41 just makes it so much more real. 24:43 And it's no longer 24:44 that little one-dimensional nursery story. 24:46 - Yeah. I can never look at my bible in Genesis again 24:49 and think about the arc the way it used to be. 24:51 Like say one-dimensional, here it is, you know. 24:54 - And you say that and it reminds me 24:56 when I have been invited to different churches or schools, 25:02 the nicest thing, 25:03 the best thing that people can say to me, 25:05 and I get it a lot, is people who come up and say, 25:08 "I'll never think about that story the same again," 25:11 because we shouldn't think about them the same. 25:14 - One of the things that, I'm gonna tell on Terry, you know, 25:17 who's filming this, (Janice laughing) 25:19 I think he got tears in his eyes, 25:21 and we all choked up a little bit 25:23 when you got to that moment 25:24 talking about the people outside of the arc in the storm 25:28 and had you said and done everything you could. 25:32 - And feeling like, "What else could I have done?" 25:35 - What is it? Sound like they ran into somebody there. 25:37 - As long as they don't come 25:38 punching through the trees this direction, we're good. 25:43 Yeah, because I fully believe, as I say, as I wrap her up, 25:47 that there's another storm coming. 25:49 And are we going to be any more prepared for that storm 25:55 than the majority of people were prepared 25:56 for the literal storm there. 25:59 - In about the last minute really, Janice, 26:01 kind of tell us what we're looking forward to, 26:03 what the ministry wants to do 26:05 and produce this package of Women of God. 26:08 (Janice chuckles) 26:09 - Well, I'm ready and willing, and the crew is too. 26:12 Unfortunately, in this day and age, 26:14 it'll be in God's time and with God's provision, 26:20 because you can't film these for free, 26:22 especially if you want to put the different women 26:26 in settings that truly, at least, look biblical. 26:33 Our ultimate goal would be to go to places like Morocco 26:35 where a lot of big biblical movies are filmed. 26:38 - Most of the Jesus movies now are filmed 26:40 in Morocco. - Right, 26:41 so that you can get lost in it and not not feel like, 26:44 "Oh, yeah, they're just filming 26:45 against a little ticky tacky backdrop," 26:47 because that takes away from the story. 26:50 And since I can't get, you know, to everywhere, 26:54 if we could get these all on DVD. 26:57 - The other exciting thing to me, 26:58 and we kind of gotta wrap up here, I'm sorry, 27:00 but you're on that side now, so- 27:02 - Right, (chuckles) you're in charge. 27:03 - But we want to do a women's Bible study 27:06 to tie into, specifically, 27:08 the greatness of these women because of God. 27:11 And folks, I wanna ask you, you know, 27:13 if you might be touched by this, 27:15 if you'd like to financially help out, if you do, 27:17 simply go to TalkingDonkeyInternational.org 27:20 or give us a call, 27:21 and we're happy to talk with you more about the project, 27:24 and we're looking forward actually to seeing you 27:27 doing those different women in that project 27:30 because I know it's gonna change heart and lives. 27:32 - That's the point. 27:34 My grandmother was number 11 in a family of 13 girls, 27:40 and she sometimes felt lost in the crowd. 27:43 Do you ever feel that way? 27:45 But there is someone who notices. 27:48 If you'd like proof, 27:49 go to TalkingDonkeyInternational.org 27:52 and request offer number 130 for this free pamphlet. 27:58 There's not another you. 27:59 (gentle music) 28:02 - Thank you for watching. 28:03 Join us again for another exciting "Country Wisdom. 28:05 - See you next time. 28:06 (gentle upbeat music) |
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