Series Code: DAA
Program Code: DAA000007A
00:25 Hello, once again we welcome you to Daniel All Access...
00:29 our behind-the-scenes look at the book of Daniel.
00:32 We've been seeking to ask not only the question "what"
00:35 but also the question "why"
00:37 and sometimes "who" and "how"
00:39 as we look behind the scenes at this powerful book of prophecy
00:43 that has so much to say to us in these last days.
00:47 We've looked at Daniel
00:48 and we've seen how God has blessed his life
00:51 and we've taken out lessons for ourselves
00:54 and tonight will be no different
00:55 as we take a look at Daniel chapter 7.
00:58 We've entitled our message
01:00 "Alpha Predators and the Protestant Inconsistency"
01:04 Alpha Predators and the Protestant Inconsistency.
01:08 Join with me now in a word of prayer
01:10 as we open God's Word.
01:12 "Father God, we do praise you and thank you
01:15 for the power of your Word
01:17 and how this ancient Book has so much to say to us
01:23 in the latter stages of this earth's history.
01:27 There is so much that you want us to know
01:31 and so much that you want us to do
01:35 and so much that you want us to be.
01:38 Help us Lord... to know and to do
01:43 and to be the kind of children that you can use.
01:48 Oh Father, teach us this night, show us your will for our lives
01:53 fortify us for the trials which are sure to come
01:57 that we may be overcomers, that we may stand victorious
02:03 on the day we see you face to face.
02:06 We thank you dear Father in Jesus' name, amen. "
02:10 Daniel chapter 7 pivots into full prophetic apocalyptic mode
02:20 and although it appears that he is covering
02:24 some of the same material as Daniel chapter 2...
02:27 and indeed he is,
02:28 you will find that a feature of Daniel
02:32 is this particular idea of of what we call
02:35 "Repeat and Enlarge"
02:38 "Repeat and Enlarge... "
02:41 whenever Daniel goes over
02:44 previously-spoken-of prophetic material,
02:48 he repeats it but he also enlarges it.
02:53 I was telling someone just today I look at it... I look at it...
02:56 much as Google Earth,
02:58 you know, when you have Google Earth
03:00 and you see a picture of a... a continent
03:04 and you push it a little closer and you see cities
03:07 and you go a little closer and you see streets
03:10 and you push a little closer and you see houses,
03:13 and you push a little closer and you can actually see people
03:15 on the lawn and near those houses.
03:18 Well, that's what Daniel does.
03:19 Each time he goes over the material,
03:21 he gives you a little better view...
03:24 he gives you a little better view
03:26 and we will see this in Daniel chapter 11
03:28 in a very, very marked and dramatic way.
03:31 So, it's called "Repeat and Enlarge"
03:33 it does cover the same material
03:35 but he gives you a little more depth...
03:38 he magnifies it a little more,
03:40 he gives you a little more information,
03:42 he shines the light a little brighter
03:45 every time he goes over material.
03:48 So, Daniel 2, is the worldview through naked eyes.
03:52 Daniel 7 now, is that same world with reading glasses on.
03:58 and Daniel 11 actually is that same material
04:02 under a microscope
04:04 and we'll see that coming up in our lectures
04:08 that come in just a little bit.
04:10 So, he repeats and he enlarges.
04:13 Daniel chapter 11 is going to be a fun chapter
04:17 that we will get to in just a little bit,
04:19 it's... it's entitled, "The Train is on the Tracks"
04:22 so we want you to look out for that.
04:24 So, we will see the same history that we saw in Daniel 2
04:28 but we see it with greater clarity...
04:31 we'll see it again in Daniel chapter 8,
04:33 we'll see it again in Daniel chapter 9,
04:35 we'll see it again in Daniel chapter 11.
04:39 So, we... we... we see the same material
04:42 but this time... we actually get the help of an angelic tutor,
04:49 so we're going to get homeschooled by an angel.
04:52 Notice, we are going back in time,
04:55 we are going back to the first year of Belshazzar's reign
05:00 so we are going back previous to Daniel chapters 5 and 6.
05:05 Nebuchadnezzar's reign of course was 40 years
05:09 and we ended that in Daniel chapter 4.
05:12 Daniel chapter 2 took place
05:16 at the second year of Nebuchadnezzar's reign,
05:19 so, now, we are dealing with events
05:22 that proceed Daniel chapter 5 and 6
05:25 and we are at the behest of an angel instructor.
05:29 So we got to go to school with Daniel
05:32 and we got to homeschool with Daniel.
05:36 Daniel now has a dream.
05:38 He states he had a dream
05:41 and he wrote down the main points of that dream.
05:46 So, when we interpret Scripture, we do so literally
05:51 until we move into apocalyptic mode
05:54 and then, things equal other things.
05:57 So, we're moving into that mode now...
06:00 from the historical... the interpersonal...
06:04 to full apocalyptic mode.
06:06 Let's go to Daniel chapter 7 verse 2
06:08 because the Bible talks about wars and strife
06:11 and school is now in session.
06:12 Wars and strife mean political, social, societal upheaval
06:19 and I've given you some reference texts...
06:22 Jeremiah chapter 49... Revelation and Zechariah.
06:26 So, when the Bible talks about winds and strife,
06:29 you know you're dealing with a situation of war...
06:33 of strife... of upheaval...
06:35 political war... sometimes spiritual conflict
06:39 but a scene of turmoil and chaos
06:42 and so, what is happening here in early...
06:45 in the early portions of Daniel chapter 7,
06:48 war... strife... political chaos...
06:51 and we've given you the texts for that.
06:55 The winds are striving upon the great sea
06:58 and of course, The Great Sea is the Mediterranean
07:00 and we've given you some background material
07:03 for that also, Joshua chapter 1 verse 4,
07:05 Numbers chapter 34 verses 6 and 7.
07:08 We don't have time to read all of those
07:11 but this is your homework assignment,
07:13 you can look at those yourself.
07:15 They will assure you that we're talking about
07:17 the Mediterranean Sea.
07:18 So, in short, Daniel is viewing war and strife...
07:23 conflict among nations that border the Mediterranean.
07:28 So, we know the "what" and we know the "where"
07:34 Daniel sees four great carnivorous beasts...
07:40 I call them Alpha Predators.
07:41 These are top-of-the-food-chain beasts,
07:45 these are big cats and a big bear
07:49 and a beast that I call the iron-teeth beast,
07:53 these are... these are alpha predators.
07:55 They're on the scene.
07:58 So, not only do we see political strife,
08:02 we also see military strife and military power.
08:06 Daniel chapter 7 and verse 4.
08:10 That first beast in this particular scenario is a lion.
08:16 These empires super-imposed their cultures over each other
08:21 when one country captured another country,
08:24 they imposed their culture on that second country
08:27 and so, Daniel chapter 7 verse 4
08:31 introduces us to the lion which we know is analogous
08:35 to the golden head of the image in Daniel chapter 2
08:38 so, we're talking about the Empire of Babylon.
08:42 But here, again, Daniel gives us more information
08:45 because Daniel says... this lion undergoes a change...
08:50 because it's a winged lion,
08:52 it undergoes what we call an "anthropomorphic change"
08:56 which is a long 25-cent word...
08:58 simply means... he gets human characteristics.
09:01 What was once a beast now becomes a man...
09:05 literally and figuratively.
09:08 It's talking about Nebuchadnezzar
09:10 because Nebuchadnezzar lived 7 years as a beast
09:13 and then, came back to be a man
09:15 but more than that, Daniel is giving us some clues
09:20 to the conversion
09:21 and ultimate redemption of Nebuchadnezzar.
09:25 He started out as an idol worshipper.
09:27 He started out as one who worshipped the gods of wood
09:31 and stone and gold and silver
09:33 but before it was all over, he stood up like a man...
09:37 gave his heart to the Lord and is a saved person.
09:41 Isn't it nice to know when you get to heaven
09:43 one of the people who will be in your neighborhood
09:46 will be King Nebuchadnezzar.
09:48 You can get to talk to him and ask him what it was like
09:52 to live and eat grass for seven years
09:54 and then come back to his kingdom
09:55 and have his kingdom there waiting for him
09:58 So, the Bible is saying here that this beast worshipper
10:03 becomes a man... he gets eyes,
10:05 he gets a... he... he gets saved...
10:12 and when did that happen?
10:13 When Nebuchadnezzar surrendered himself to the Lord.
10:17 So, in the first four verses of Daniel chapter 7,
10:21 we actually get a summary of the first four chapters
10:26 of the book of Daniel,
10:28 highlighted by the conversion of its greatest king...
10:36 Now we come to Daniel chapter 7 verse 5.
10:39 We go from the lion to the Medo-Persian Bear.
10:44 Now, what is interesting...
10:46 again, we get a little more information
10:48 the median half is older but the Persian half is stronger
10:53 which is why the bear has got
10:54 sort of a scoliosis kind of condition...
10:56 he's kind of... up on one side
10:58 the Median half... Media was an older country
11:03 but the Persian half was stronger.
11:05 So, he's on one side and he, of course, has three ribs
11:12 in his mouth.
11:13 The three principal nations
11:15 conquered by the Medo-Persian Empire
11:20 were Lydia, Egypt and Babylon itself.
11:25 Lydia, Egypt and Babylon...
11:28 those are the three ribs.
11:31 Daniel chapter 7 verse 6 we see... another big cat...
11:37 Daniel chapter 7 verse 6...
11:39 Greece comes... which is a leopard...
11:42 another big cat...
11:44 an alpha predator...
11:46 a leopard with four wings and four heads.
11:50 Again... more information...
11:51 the four wings indicate the speed
11:55 at which Alexander the Great and the Grecian Empire was formed.
12:00 By the time he was 30 plus years of age,
12:03 he had conquered the then-known world...
12:05 he had crossed the Indus River had gone into India,
12:09 he had gone as far west as Greece and Central Europe
12:13 he'd gone south into North Africa...
12:16 he had covered pretty much all he wanted to cover
12:20 and all he could cover and then in a drunken stupor
12:23 suffered from Malaria... he died...
12:27 four wings... but also, four heads...
12:30 Alexander was the son of Philip of Macedon
12:34 and he conquered the then-known world at age 30.
12:39 It's an amazing feat that at 30 years of age,
12:43 you've conquered just about everything
12:46 that you wanted to conquer.
12:47 You've done just about everything you've wanted to do.
12:53 So, let's note, that each empire increases in size.
12:58 the Babylonian Empire was fairly compact,
13:02 the Medo-Persian Empire was fairly broad
13:06 and the Grecian Empire was broader still
13:10 but before his death,
13:12 Alexander summoned his four principal Generals
13:16 Cassander... who was given Macedonia, Greece and the west,
13:23 Lysimachus or Lysimachus...
13:26 who was given Thrace/Bithynia...
13:28 also called Pergamum in the north,
13:31 Seleucus... who took Syria and the east
13:35 and all of the Seleucid kings took the name "Antiochus"
13:39 all of them were called Antiochus the 1st...
13:42 Antiochus the 2nd and Antiochus the 3rd
13:44 Antiochus the 4th or Antiochus Epiphanes...
13:47 they all took the name Antiochus...
13:48 there were eight Seleucid kings all taking the name "Antiochus"
13:54 then, of course, Ptolemy... he took Egypt and the south.
13:58 Cleopatra was a Ptolemy
14:01 and, of course, there were several Cleopatras.
14:03 The Cleopatra that we all know was Cleopatra number seven
14:06 and when we get to Daniel chapter 11,
14:09 we're going to see a lot of interplay
14:12 between these four Generals.
14:14 Daniel chapter 11 really shines a light on these four Generals
14:18 and gives us much history and there's some interesting stuff
14:23 that went on between these four fellows.
14:25 So, this leopard has four wings and now four heads.
14:33 Then, I suspect, Daniel saw the beast
14:37 that caused him the most distress.
14:44 I call this beast the Iron-Teeth beast
14:49 because it has no analogy in fiction or in the real world.
14:54 Now, I've seen it portrayed as a dragon,
15:00 usually some sort of cobbled-together beast,
15:05 we don't know what he saw... we know it had iron teeth
15:09 and it had claws and it ground down
15:12 and stamped into powder everything that opposed it.
15:17 It is an incredibly strong,
15:20 vicious, unmerciful devouring beast
15:24 that breaks into pieces everything that opposes it
15:27 and then stamps on the residue... residue.
15:31 When the Roman armies attacked a nation,
15:34 they either enslaved it
15:36 or destroyed it
15:38 and so, this picture of this beast is very, very accurate.
15:42 Rome's legacy 168 B.C. to 476 A.D.
15:49 just over 600 years
15:53 by far, the longest of the world kingdoms,
15:56 by far the largest of the world kingdoms
15:59 and we saw the other day that the Roman Empire
16:03 went from East to West... North to South...
16:06 and even crossed over the English Channel
16:09 into Great Britain.
16:12 Then, Daniel sees the Germanic tribes that begin to encroach
16:18 and invade on Roman territory
16:21 breaking it into pieces.
16:24 Here they are, the Alamanni...
16:27 the Ostrogoth's... the Visigoths...
16:30 the Franks... the Vandals...
16:33 the Suevi... the Burgundians...
16:36 the Heruli... the Anglo Saxons...
16:39 and the Lombard's.
16:41 These Germanic tribes began to encroach on the territory
16:47 of the Roman Empire
16:49 and for a while... for a time...
16:51 Rome was able to withstand their forays
16:54 but soon the internal decay of the Roman Empire began to show
17:01 and these Germanic tribes
17:03 began to take large sections of territory
17:06 once ruled by Rome.
17:10 Daniel chapter 7 verse 8...
17:13 there comes from the head of this beast
17:18 a small horn which displaces three of those horns,
17:24 let's read it, "I was considering the horns,
17:27 and there was another horn, a little one,
17:29 coming up from among them,
17:31 before whom... of the first horn...
17:34 before whom three... rather...
17:37 of the first horns were plucked out by the roots.
17:41 And there, in this horn,
17:45 were eyes like the eyes of a man,
17:48 and a mouth speaking pompous words.
17:53 Now, when you try to identify who and what this horn is,
17:57 there are some parameters that you need to be governed by,
18:01 one, when you're trying to find out who this horn is,
18:05 there is no need to look in Asia, Africa or North America.
18:13 That's because the text says, the horn came up...
18:18 out of the head of the first beast
18:22 and among the ten horns.
18:25 So, if the first beast is the Roman Empire,
18:30 then, if you're trying to identify who this horn is,
18:35 there's no need to look in China.
18:40 There's no need to look in Africa.
18:42 There's no need to conjecture about North or South America
18:47 because the horn comes from the head of the Roman Empire.
18:51 So, whatever that horn is... it's got to be Roman, amen.
18:57 Because it's coming up out of the head...
18:59 it's coming up out of the seat of authority.
19:01 So, if we're trying to identify who this beast is,
19:04 all you've got to do is go to your history book
19:07 and find out what came up out of the seat of the Roman Empire.
19:13 Not that tough.
19:15 Out of the Roman Empire, came the Roman Church.
19:21 Now, the Bible also says
19:23 that it plucks up three of those kingdoms...
19:26 well, we know who those three kingdoms are.
19:30 The Heruli... the Vandals... and the Ostrogoth's
19:33 were completely destroyed by the Roman armies
19:36 and never really got a chance to settle in.
19:39 What's interesting is that those three kingdoms...
19:42 the Heruli... Vandals... Ostrogoth's...
19:45 embraced a theological concept called "Arianism"
19:49 they all believed and taught that Christ was a created being
19:53 and somehow... they developed this belief
19:58 and they were destroyed by the Roman armies
20:02 before they ever got a chance to take root
20:06 and so, today, there are no Ostrogoth's...
20:09 there are no Vandals... there are no Heruli...
20:11 these other ten tribes are now the ten kingdoms of Europe,
20:16 you've got the Lombard's... you've got...
20:18 you've got the Italians... you've got the French...
20:21 you've got the Anglo-Saxons... you've got the Germans...
20:23 you've got the Swiss...
20:24 they're all here today but there are no Heruli...
20:28 there are no Vandals...
20:30 there are no Heruli... let's see... Heruli...
20:35 no Vandals and no Ostrogoth's.
20:37 So, this horns get... this horn gets eyes and a mouth
20:43 this is code for new power that will not be ruled by Committee
20:49 but that will be ruled by a single person.
20:53 This is not a parliamentary system,
20:55 this is not a system where people are voted in and out
20:58 the Bible is telling us that this new entity
21:02 that comes from the head of the old Roman Empire
21:06 is going to have one person sitting at the top
21:10 and that one person will speak for this entity...
21:14 will be the power in this entity...
21:17 and will speak great words.
21:21 One man... a top...
21:23 a System that is going to speak pompous words
21:31 comes up from among the others...
21:33 so we're talking about Europe...
21:34 it comes from the head of pagan Rome
21:38 and it uproots the Heruli... the Vandals...
21:41 and the Ostrogoth's.
21:43 So, when we take our time with prophecy,
21:44 it tends to make sense...
21:46 it tends to fall apart or build itself up on its own.
21:51 So, the Bible is identifying not a person, per se...
21:55 but a Position and a System...
21:59 a Position and a System.
22:02 The Position is Head of the Church.
22:06 The System is the ecclesiastical body
22:09 that came up after pagan Rome fell to ashes.
22:14 So, we're talking about an entity
22:18 that speaks pompous words.
22:21 Now, the word for "pompous" in the Bible is "rabrab"
22:27 interesting word...
22:29 it means... huge in size
22:33 and domineering or dominating in character.
22:37 Very interesting.
22:39 The Bible is saying that this new entity
22:41 is going to be huge as far as its size is concerned,
22:46 as far... as far as its control is concerned,
22:50 but it will also be dominating in character.
22:54 It's going to be a bossy kind of a System.
22:58 It's going to try to take control
23:00 not only of what man does but what man thinks.
23:06 History tells us that the Entity
23:10 that came up out of the pagan Roman Empire
23:14 was called the Holy Roman Empire.
23:19 The pagan Roman Empire fell
23:23 to be replaced by the Holy Roman Empire,
23:27 in short, the Roman Universal Church
23:31 or the Roman Catholic Church.
23:33 The Holy Roman Empire was an amalgamation of kings,
23:38 emperors, electors and popes
23:42 that dominated the history of Europe from the sixth century
23:46 all the way down to the 18th century.
23:50 The Holy Roman Empire began with the inauguration
23:56 by Pope Leo of King Charlemagne of France in 538 B.C.
24:01 and it pretty much continued unabated till 1808
24:08 just after the 1,260 years
24:12 which we'll talk about in just a minute.
24:14 So, kings, emperors, electors and popes
24:17 were in-charge of the Holy Roman Empire
24:20 for short periods of time
24:22 the emperors and the electors took the lead
24:26 but make no mistake about it, the power behind the church
24:31 from 538 to 1798... that 1,260-year period
24:36 was the man who sat on the Cathedra in Rome
24:40 that was the Pope... the Head of the Catholic Church.
24:45 The church insinuated itself
24:49 into every aspect of medieval life.
24:53 The church controlled how you ate,
24:56 the church controlled what you drank,
25:00 the church controlled how you lived,
25:03 the church controlled your employment
25:06 and they even tried to control what you thought.
25:11 European culture had one Master,
25:15 it was run from Rome
25:18 and Rome insinuated itself
25:21 into every aspect of medieval church life.
25:27 That's one of the things that becomes very, very apparent
25:32 as we study Daniel chapter 7.
25:36 So, Daniel now gives us increased focus
25:39 on beast number 4.
25:43 Daniel uses that term, "Pompous Words"
25:47 a number of times.
25:49 Daniel chapter 7 verse 8, Daniel chapter 7 verse 11,
25:53 Daniel chapter 7 verse 25.
25:56 He is begging the point...
26:00 insisting on the fact that this new entity
26:04 stands not necessarily for God
26:08 but oft times in opposition to God
26:12 and by the words that it speaks
26:16 and the way that it conducts itself,
26:18 it assumes
26:21 many of the prerogatives of God.
26:24 In Daniel chapter 7 verse 21, Daniel says,
26:27 "This same horn was making war against the saints. "
26:33 So, make no mistake about it, this is not a civil army,
26:38 this issue is a... a spiritual battle.
26:43 When we look at this new beast,
26:46 we are moving from physical conquest
26:50 to spiritual warfare...
26:52 the issue in Daniel chapter 7 is not just physical conquest...
26:58 it is spiritual warfare
27:01 and this horn is not fighting a nation or a kingdom
27:05 or even an ideology,
27:07 it's fighting against the saints of God
27:10 and when you fight against the saints of God,
27:14 you are in effect fighting against God Himself.
27:19 So, we're speaking about pompous words
27:22 and an entity that is wearing out the saints
27:25 of the Most High.
27:27 The Bible explains how this little horn power
27:30 virtually reigns unfettered and unchallenged
27:34 for a period of 1,260 years... that's an awful long time.
27:39 Paul talks about him
27:41 in 2nd Thessalonians chapter 2 verse 4.
27:44 The Bible says... this power exalts himself above God,
27:48 sits in the place of God... in the temple of God
27:52 claiming that he is God.
27:54 Now, how do you do that?
27:56 You do that when you try to...
27:59 to say that... the things that God says are important
28:03 are not important.
28:04 You do that when you say...
28:05 the Laws of God are no longer able to be kept
28:11 or even should be kept.
28:12 You do that when you try to take the prerogatives of God
28:17 and the power of God and apply it to yourself.
28:21 So, this new exposition is telling us what happens
28:25 down in the ankles and toes and feet of that image
28:29 of Daniel chapter 2.
28:31 It's explaining in greater detail what we saw
28:34 in Daniel chapter 2
28:36 just prior to the second coming
28:38 of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
28:40 So the... the picture we get is one of...
28:45 is one of aggressive... grinding persecution.
28:50 Years of persecution... years of privation...
28:55 we get a picture of a power
28:58 that insinuates itself
29:02 into every aspect of life and controls that life
29:06 and grinds against the people of God
29:09 even to... to the extent of coming to America...
29:13 the... the... the Inquisition went as far as
29:16 Goa, India and also came to America.
29:21 If you want to read interesting history,
29:23 look how the Papacy ordered Spain and Portugal
29:31 to divide South America.
29:34 Why some countries are Portuguese...
29:36 some countries speak in Spanish
29:38 that was done at... at... at the insistence of Rome.
29:43 "You get this piece... you get that piece... "
29:46 very, very interesting history
29:48 how the church even insinuated itself into South America.
29:52 I remember speaking with Malachi Martin...
29:55 that name may not be familiar to some of you,
29:58 he was a famous Jesuit scholar...
30:01 lived in New York... died in 1999.
30:05 We had a chance to meet at a local radio station
30:08 and had many, many talks,
30:12 he has written a number of books...
30:13 "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Church"
30:15 "Keys of This Blood"
30:16 just a number of books...
30:18 an outspoken Jesuit scholar
30:20 and after having read his,
30:22 "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Church"
30:24 about 650 pages...
30:25 Dr. Martin admitted to me in private discussion
30:30 how he felt... his church had done many, many wrong things
30:35 down through the Middle Ages.
30:37 I was meeting with him and we were going to have a debate
30:42 on one of the local radio stations
30:44 in the... in the New York City area
30:46 and I came armed with all of this material
30:49 as to how the Catholic Church had done some of these things
30:52 in the Middle Ages
30:54 and I had facts and figures from the Lutheran...
30:57 the Lutheran church and other churches
30:59 how they say... the Catholic church during the Inquisition
31:02 was responsible for the death of about 50 million people.
31:05 I came armed with my material and we sat down for the debate
31:09 and I hit him with my... my hardest salvo,
31:11 I said, "Well, my figures show
31:13 that the Catholic Church
31:16 through the Inquisition was responsible for the death
31:18 of about 50 million Protestants...
31:19 he said, "It was way more than that. "
31:21 Audience: Laughter...
31:22 He said, "Way more than that"
31:24 and he disarmed me right away,
31:25 he said, "Yeah, everything is true"
31:27 he said, "We did. "
31:28 But this is what he said
31:29 and we're going to come back to this in just a little bit,
31:32 this is what Malachi Martin, famous Jesuit Scholar said to me
31:35 he said, "Sometimes, mothers are little over-zealous
31:40 in correcting their wayward children. "
31:44 That was his statement...
31:45 statement of a famed Jesuit scholar
31:48 he said, "Sometimes mothers can be a little over-zealous
31:53 in correcting their wayward children. "
31:56 Some scholars estimate 50 million...
32:00 Malachi Martin said, "Much more than that. "
32:03 So, he wasn't making an excuse,
32:05 he said, "Sometimes when you spank your children,
32:08 you spank them a little hard...
32:10 you spank them a little too hard. "
32:11 But given all of the torture and the millions of deaths,
32:18 as sad as that was...
32:21 and as bad as that was...
32:24 perhaps the most audacious aspect of Papal intention
32:31 was to change... times and laws
32:36 and that's what Daniel chapter 7 tries to stress
32:42 in its portrayal of this new beast.
32:45 What does that mean?
32:49 What does it mean to try to change
32:53 times and laws?
32:56 There is a wonderful book that is no longer in print
32:59 that I have in my library called,
33:01 "How the Pope Became Infallible"
33:03 and it deals with the changing of times and laws
33:07 but in verse 25 of Daniel chapter 7,
33:11 we see that statement made.
33:15 This new power... this horn...
33:19 will seek to change times and laws...
33:25 this little horn claims the prerogatives of God.
33:31 The question we need to ask,
33:34 "What times and whose laws is the Bible speaking of?"
33:41 Well, first we can discount man's laws...
33:44 can you say, "Amen"
33:46 because man's laws change like the wind.
33:52 Think of the number of times that England, as a country,
33:56 went from Catholic to Protestant...
33:58 Catholic to Protestant
34:00 depending on the king or the queen on the throne,
34:02 it went from Catholic to Protestant.
34:04 We now have in... in the United States here,
34:07 a President can sign Executive Orders.
34:09 One President can sign an Executive Order
34:12 that says, "Yea... "
34:13 and the next President comes right behind him
34:16 and signs an Executive Order that says, "Nay. "
34:19 So, we're not talking about man's times and laws
34:22 because man's laws change with the whim of the person
34:25 who gets elected...
34:26 they are not permanent...
34:27 they are as ropes of sand... they're like the wind...
34:30 so, when we talk about changing times and laws...
34:32 we've got about the church trying...
34:35 we've got to be speaking about the church
34:37 attempting to change God's times and God's Laws
34:41 because it's only God's time
34:43 and God's law that really matter amen.
34:51 Every time we amend the Constitution,
34:53 it occurs to me... we change our own laws...
34:55 so, we're talking about God's time... God's Law...
34:59 here's a text for you, Malachi chapter 3 verse 6,
35:02 the Bible says, "I am the Lord, I change not"
35:06 So, God is not fickle... God doesn't say one thing today
35:10 and then sign an Executive Order
35:12 and sign and make it another thing tomorrow
35:14 and the battle really is between earth and heaven.
35:19 So, let's put that in context,
35:22 God's Law is the 10 Commandments
35:26 we're talking about the Law of God...
35:27 we're talking about the eternal Law of God
35:29 the Law that is part of His character...
35:32 that's the 10 Commandments.
35:33 The only Commandment that deals with time
35:37 is the 4th Commandment.
35:39 The rest of the Commandments
35:41 are sort of "do" and "don't" Commandments
35:42 that really deal with interpersonal relationships
35:44 between humans
35:46 and interpersonal relationships between man and God.
35:48 The only one that deals with time is Commandment number 4.
35:53 Now, this is very, very important...
35:55 I'm going to show you something in just a little bit.
35:57 So, God's Law... Ten Commandments...
35:59 God's time... the 4th Commandment.
36:02 So, then, Daniel chapter 7:25 identifies a power
36:07 that will attempt to change the Lord's Sabbath.
36:12 That's what Daniel 7:25 is saying.
36:14 This power is going to attempt to change
36:19 God's holy Sabbath
36:21 because the Sabbath is the only part of the Ten Commandments
36:25 that deals with time.
36:28 The first change... or the first attempt to change
36:33 began with the Edict of Constantine
36:36 in 321 A.D.
36:38 Now, we're not going to go through that because
36:39 many people talked about that.
36:41 What the Edict of Constantine... 321 A.D. did
36:45 it de-criminalized work on Sunday.
36:50 Prior to 321 A.D.,
36:53 Christianity was still a religio-illicitus,
36:58 in other words, an illegal religion...
37:00 and the reason we know that it was an illegal religion
37:02 because just ten years before or less,
37:07 the Christian Church went through
37:09 one of the worst times of persecution in its history
37:12 called the Diocletian Persecution.
37:14 Ten years of persecution under the Emperor Diocletian
37:19 303 to 313
37:20 when Christians were slaughtered by the tens of thousands
37:26 so now, after 313... in 321... Constantine makes an Edict
37:33 that de-criminalizes work on Sunday.
37:37 It de-facto recognizes Christianity
37:41 it turns it from a religio-illicitus
37:44 to a legitimate religion.
37:47 Most people know about 321...
37:50 I want to take you to the next big attack on Christianity
37:57 at the Council of Laodicea in 364 A.D.
38:02 364 A.D.
38:06 and I want to give you the language that was voted
38:09 by the Church at the Council of Laodicea... 364 A.D.
38:13 "... Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday"
38:19 that is the Sabbath...
38:20 "Judaizing" meant just acting like a Jew
38:23 and doing nothing on Sabbath.
38:26 So they wanted you working on... on Sabbath.
38:30 a little bit later, something very interesting...
38:32 the Catholic Church actually instituted something
38:35 they called "the Sabbath Fast"
38:36 they made you fast on Sabbath to make it a day of drudgery
38:40 and then they allowed you to feast on Sunday.
38:45 So, you can't "Judaize" on Sabbath...
38:47 "but shall work on that day. "
38:49 So they want you in the field working...
38:51 they want you working on that day.
38:52 "But the Lord's Day they shall especially honor
38:56 and as being Christians shall if possible,
39:01 do no work on that day. "
39:04 If, however, they are found Judaizing,
39:08 they shall be cut off from Christ... "
39:13 That's the Council of Laodicea 364 A.D.
39:17 In other words, if they caught you not working on Saturday,
39:24 you were anathema... you were cut off from the Lord.
39:29 So, this now, is the first fully functioning Edict...
39:33 not only in favor of Sunday,
39:37 but specifically against Sabbath.
39:40 Then, in the 16th Century,
39:44 the church found its philosophical motherlode.
39:52 In the 16th Century, the church convened an 18-year convocation
39:57 called "The Council of Trent" T R E N T
40:03 after the city in northern Italy.
40:09 The Council of Trent took up many, many doctrines
40:14 but one of the things that it did
40:18 towards the end of the Council
40:21 was address itself to the Sabbath.
40:25 Let me give you some of the words
40:29 of the hero of the Council of Trent...
40:32 his name was Archbishop Reggio
40:35 or the Archbishop of Reggio.
40:40 Here is what the Catholic Church discovered
40:43 in 1551 right near the close of the Council of Trent.
40:48 "The written word
40:51 explicitly enjoins the observance of the seventh day"
40:57 now, that's the Catholic Church
40:59 telling the truth about the Sabbath.
41:03 "The written word explicitly enjoins
41:06 the observance of the seventh day... "
41:09 in other words, "The Bible says, 'keep the Sabbath... '"
41:11 "as the Sabbath.
41:13 We do not observe the seventh day.
41:17 If they... " that is... Protestants
41:21 "do truly hold the Scripture alone as their standard...
41:27 they would be observing the 7th day
41:31 as enjoined in the Scripture throughout. "
41:35 See what he's saying,
41:36 he's saying, "If you really were Bible keepers,
41:40 you would be keeping the seventh day. "
41:42 Now, hold on to your hats,
41:44 here is how he uses that argument.
41:45 "Yet they not only reject the observance of the Sabbath
41:54 enjoined in the written word"
41:56 so he's saying it again,
41:57 not only do you reject the Sabbath in the Bible,
42:00 "but they have adopted and do practice
42:04 the observance of Sunday
42:06 for which they have only the tradition of the church. "
42:11 Now, look what he's saying,
42:12 he is saying, "You say that you're Bible keepers,
42:18 but the day you're keeping...
42:20 you'll forgive my pejorative English,
42:23 "ain't in the Bible"
42:27 so, you're keeping a day
42:30 and the only reason you have for keeping that day
42:33 is because we're telling you to keep that day.
42:37 So, you cannot really say... you're Bible keepers.
42:41 Now, this... this is very, very important,
42:44 this is very crucial.
42:45 "Consequently... " he goes on,
42:48 "the claim of Scripture alone as their standard falls
42:53 and the doctrine of Scripture and tradition as essential
42:59 is fully established... "
43:00 He's... he's... he's... we've got a pretty tight case here.
43:03 "The Protestants themselves being judges. "
43:07 This was voted at the Council of Trent
43:10 in spring of 1551.
43:13 It's a powerful, powerful argument.
43:18 Now, the Augsburg Confession...
43:20 The Augsburg Confession was voted as the Catholic...
43:27 I'm sorry, the Protestant doctrine in 1530.
43:32 It was presented to the
43:39 Holy Roman Empire Elector in Germany...
43:44 Lutheran scholars put it together
43:47 and before long all Protestant Denominations
43:51 accepted the Augsburg Confession.
43:54 I've read the Augsburg Confession.
43:56 The... the book in which it is written is 878 pages long.
44:00 It's got 28 different parts
44:02 and each of the different parts has about 20 different sub-texts
44:06 it's a long, long thing.
44:09 The Council of Trent calls it the Protestant Inconsistency.
44:17 Here's their reasoning,
44:20 the Augsburg Confession states that Protestants
44:29 would accept and revere Sunday
44:33 and all Protestant Churches signed on
44:36 to the Augsburg Confession.
44:38 It admits the observance of Sunday as the Lord's Day.
44:45 So now, Archbishop Reggio comes along, 21 years later
44:51 at the Council of Trent and says,
44:54 "Because of this one issue...
44:57 because of this one issue,
45:00 he says, "the entire Protestant Reformation
45:06 is nothing more than an unwarranted revolt
45:11 against the Mother Church
45:13 and that was voted at the Council of Trent
45:16 and from that day to this,
45:18 that shows what the Catholic Church
45:22 thinks of Protestantism.
45:26 It is an unwarranted revolt.
45:30 Why is it a revolt?
45:31 He says, "Because you don't believe yourself...
45:36 what you're teaching"
45:37 and it's a powerful argument.
45:40 He says, "You cannot believe what you're teaching...
45:45 because the main argument of the Protestant Reformation
45:49 was Sola Scriptura...
45:53 the Bible and the Bible only... "
45:57 The main argument coming out of the Council of Trent
46:02 is that Scripture and tradition are equal
46:08 so, how can you be Sola Scriptura
46:13 and keep a day which is not "Scriptura?"
46:18 You understand that argument?
46:20 It is so powerful that every Catholic scholar
46:25 from that day to this has used that same argument,
46:29 every one, you name them.
46:31 Cardinal Gibbons... Albert Smith... John Newman...
46:36 Louis Gaston de Ségur
46:38 Nathan Canaan,
46:39 all of the great theologians have used that same argument
46:48 that you cannot be Sola Scriptura
46:51 because you're keeping a day that has no place in Scripture.
46:57 "We changed the day... you're keeping our day...
47:01 so you're not really Protestant. "
47:03 And many Catholic theologians call it to this day,
47:09 "The Protestant Inconsistency"
47:12 they say, cannot be Sola Scriptura
47:17 because you're keeping a day that is not in Scripture.
47:20 I brought this up to Malachi Martin...
47:23 this "Protestant Inconsistency"
47:26 this idea that you cannot be Sola Scriptura
47:29 and keep Sunday
47:30 and here's what Malachi Martin told me face to face.
47:33 He said, "If you worship the Lord
47:40 on the day designated by the Catholic Church...
47:44 if you worship the Lord
47:47 on the day designated by the Catholic Church
47:52 regardless of what you call yourself...
47:56 you are Catholic... "
47:58 that's Malachi Martin.
48:01 It doesn't matter what your name is...
48:03 Baptist, Protestant... Presbyterian... doesn't matter
48:06 if you're worshipping on the day that we designate,
48:09 you're Catholic...
48:10 and that is the mindset of the church to this day
48:14 and that's why you hear terms like, "Erring Brethren"
48:17 you know, brethren that have departed...
48:19 "you're still Catholic because you're worshipping on our day"
48:21 now that's not the Protestant argument,
48:24 that's not the Seventh-day Adventist argument,
48:26 it is the Catholic Church's theological content from 1551
48:32 and the Council of Trent.
48:33 You're accepting our day... you are de facto Catholic
48:38 and of all the dogma coming from the Council of Trent
48:44 and they ratified many things
48:46 arguably the one that has the most far-reaching effect
48:52 on how Catholic theologians
48:55 view and treat all Sunday-keeping Protestants
48:59 is this idea of the Protestant Inconsistency.
49:04 They're saying,
49:06 "You don't believe yourself what you're teaching...
49:09 you cannot... because you're keeping our day. "
49:11 It's a very, very powerful argument
49:13 and it... it is buttressed
49:15 by what the Bible says in Daniel chapter 7:25,
49:18 "They will seek to change times and laws"
49:21 and then we find out in Revelation that the whole world
49:24 is moving in that direction.
49:26 That is why, Ladies and Gentlemen,
49:29 the Counter Reformation was so vicious
49:33 and why the fires of the Inquisition raged
49:36 for the next 400 years
49:39 because from the Catholic standpoint,
49:41 said Malachi Martin to me,
49:44 "They were crushing an illegitimate religion
49:48 whose adherence not only didn't believe what they taught,
49:54 they couldn't believe what they taught...
49:57 according to Malachi Martin, "they couldn't believe it
50:02 their basic worship premise
50:04 did not come from the Word of God.
50:11 Many of the Popes and Leaders of the Church
50:14 saw their persecution of Protestants
50:19 not as persecution but rather... fumigation... sterilization...
50:27 eradication of a disease that infected the Holy Mother Church.
50:35 Protestantism in the Middle Ages was for many
50:40 not a rival religion...
50:43 but a virus that needed to be cleansed.
50:48 That's why they took such extreme measures...
50:52 such ungodly measures...
50:54 such horrific measures in stamping out
50:58 what they thought was an unnecessary revolt
51:04 that should have never taken place.
51:07 So, groups like the Huguenots, the Albigenses,
51:12 the Waldenses, the Cathari, the Lombards,
51:17 the Anabaptists, the Jews... I'm sorry, the Lollards,
51:25 the new Christians which were
51:28 Sabbath-keeping Christians by the way,
51:30 were hunted down and destroyed
51:35 because the Church thought they were doing the work of God.
51:39 As far as India and... in the east
51:44 and Spain and its colonies in the west
51:49 the church thought it... its duty to execute offenders.
51:58 The move to change God's Sabbath...
52:02 to change the times and laws of God
52:05 did not happen overnight
52:07 it took centuries of force, coercion, edicts, Papal Bulls
52:17 and discipline to try to get the Sabbath to go away
52:23 but praise God...
52:25 after 100,000 Albigenses were destroyed in a day
52:30 and 70,000 Huguenots destroyed in France
52:35 and tens of thousands of Christians destroyed,
52:39 God's truth still marched on.
52:44 Audience: Amen.
52:45 Now, let's look quickly before our time gets away
52:48 at the time period as spoken of in Daniel chapter 7.
52:51 The Bible says that this persecuting power
52:54 would be in the ascendency
52:56 Time, Times and dividing... or half a Time
53:01 so let's look at numbers,
53:03 looking at the day/year/day principle,
53:06 Time... 360 day/years
53:09 the Jewish year was 360 days not 365...
53:13 Times... is a multiplication of that times two...
53:17 or 720 day/years
53:20 and 1/2 a Time is 180 day/years
53:24 we mark that from the year that Pope Leo crowned Charlemagne
53:31 Head of the Holy Roman Empire...
53:35 the same year that the Ostrogoths were eradicated
53:39 from Italy...
53:41 the same year that the Catholic Church began to function
53:46 on its own... the year 538 A.D.
53:51 you add to that 1,260 years and you come up to 1798.
54:00 It was in that year that Alexandre Berthier...
54:07 Napoleon's General
54:09 went to Rome and took the Pope off his throne
54:14 and the 1,260-year Reign of Terror came to an end.
54:21 During that time, God's people stood up for Him
54:29 in marked and wonderful ways.
54:31 God's people were burned and hounded and chased
54:38 and weren't allowed to read the Bible,
54:43 they were persecuted almost beyond reason
54:48 and yet, the truth of God stood strong.
54:54 Audience: Amen.
54:56 I'll say it again...
54:57 I said before, rather, and will say again,
55:01 God has always had His witnesses always...
55:04 there have always been people
55:07 who were able to risk life and limb and even liberty
55:15 for the cause of Christ.
55:16 We don't know how many millions died at the hands of persecution
55:24 but God does.
55:26 Every name has been written down,
55:29 every face is marked in the mind of God
55:33 and not one tear was shed that wasn't written down in heaven
55:40 and that's why I'm so thankful
55:44 that at the end of that wonderful faith chapter
55:48 in the book of Hebrews, there is this text that says,
55:53 "they without us should not be made perfect"
55:57 even those who suffered... when they get their reward
56:04 you will get your reward at the same time...
56:07 we'll all go in together...
56:09 my prayer is that we all stand for the Lord.
56:14 Our faith will be tested...
56:16 oh yes, it will be...
56:18 but the same God who was with those wonderful saints of old
56:24 is with us here today.
56:26 Audience: Amen.
56:28 He has not left us... He has not forsaken us
56:32 and He guarantees that the children of God
56:36 will be victorious.
56:39 This is like the seal... the... the...
56:46 I'm trying to think of the person you go to...
56:47 the Notary Public
56:49 who gives you that seal and makes it official...
56:51 that's what this last line is.
56:53 "For the mouth of the Lord has spoken. "
56:58 That's the Notary Public's seal.
57:01 God says, "What I have told you...
57:04 I, Myself, guarantee...
57:06 they will seek to change times and laws...
57:10 they will seek to tell you what you can do
57:13 or even what you can think
57:16 but have no fear... "
57:19 fear not...
57:21 God will bring forth a people...
57:24 and I want to be in that number, how about you?
57:29 And then He says,
57:30 "I'm guaranteeing you your deliverance"
57:34 you will make it through.
57:37 Why? Because the mouth of the Lord has spoken it.
57:46 Audience: Amen.
57:48 Pastor Murray: And amen.