Participants: Ty Gibson & James Rafferty
Series Code: DBOTB
Program Code: DBOTB00008A
00:22 Welcome friends to Books
00:23 of the Book.
00:24 We have embarked upon an
00:25 exciting study of the book
00:26 of Daniel and we have now come to Daniel Chapter 7.
00:29 I'm Ty Gibson and I'm James Rafferty and we are in
00:32 an incredible Chapter Ty.
00:34 I have to say that this
00:36 Chapter is one you approach
00:38 with fear and trepidation.
00:39 There is so much here, a lot
00:41 of symbolism and it is going
00:43 to be quite an adventure to move through this.
00:46 It is a dream and it is symbolic
00:47 The symbols are identified partly in the context of the
00:51 Chapter, so we need to get right into it.
00:54 So far the book of Daniel, he hasn't received any visions
00:59 or dreams himself.
01:00 Nebuchadnezzar had received two dreams that had been
01:03 interpreted by Daniel.
01:04 But now in Chapter 7 Daniel in verse 1 says, he received
01:10 a dream and a vision and proceeds to tell the main facts,
01:15 or main points of this vision that he received.
01:19 As the vision unfolds, he says that he saw 4 winds
01:23 stirring, or striving upon the great sea.
01:26 He said that he saw 4 great beasts in verse 3, come up
01:31 out of the sea and each of the beasts was different from
01:35 the other and then delineates these beasts in particular,
01:40 James, he says in verse 4, the first beast was like a lion,
01:44 and with eagle's wings.
01:45 Then down in verse 5 he says, he saw a bear, raised up on
01:50 one side with three ribs in its mouth.
01:52 Then he says in verse 6 then he saw a leopard and the
01:56 leopard had four wings on its back and 4 heads and then
02:01 he sees in verse 7, a fourth beast, which is not like
02:05 any of the others, it is not like anything in the animal
02:09 kingdom, he says it is dreadful and terrible, exceedingly
02:14 strong, with huge iron teeth and it was different from
02:19 all the other beasts.
02:21 So these are the four creatures that he sees.
02:25 They represent 4 kingdoms that move through
02:28 history in succession.
02:30 The lion represents Babylon.
02:32 The bear, Media Persia.
02:35 The leopard, the kingdom of Grecia.
02:37 And then the terrible dreadful beast, the non-descript
02:41 beast represents the Roman empire.
02:45 So that is the basic outline of the symbols that he sees
02:48 in his vision, and the beast and what they represent.
02:52 We know this Ty because in a very context of the prophecy
02:55 an interpretation is given Daniel.
02:58 In verse 16, Daniel comes near to one of the people
03:02 he sees in vision and he asks him about this vision.
03:06 This being, this heavenly being tells Daniel the truth,
03:11 and the interpretation of these things.
03:12 Then in verse 17 he says, these great beasts, this is the
03:16 Angel, the messenger, speaking to Daniel, to tell him the
03:19 truth of the interpretation of these things.
03:21 He says these great beasts, which are 4, are 4 kings
03:26 which shall arise out of the earth.
03:28 So right there you have a very clear interpretation.
03:32 These beasts actually represent Kings and kingdoms.
03:35 In fact, the Bible here, even though it is talking and
03:38 symbolic language, it is talking the same language that
03:40 we use today, in our world.
03:42 For example, we use beasts to represent countries,
03:45 or kingdoms, or Kings.
03:47 If you think for example, of an eagle.
03:49 What country do you think of? America of course.
03:51 If you think of a bear? Russia!
03:53 The lion? England!
03:55 The Dragon? China!
03:57 So God is using the very language that He saw we would
04:00 use as a people, He is not trying to confuse us here.
04:03 But He is talking in symbols for reason.
04:06 That reason is going to become evident later.
04:08 Right now the main thing we need to recognize, for our
04:11 viewers sake, is that these 4 beasts are kingdoms that have
04:14 risen in the earth and take us down the stream of time.
04:18 It is fascinating to notice that all of these kingdoms
04:21 are represented by
04:23 predatory beasts.
04:25 These are powerful animals
04:28 that are symbolizing powers
04:31 in human history that used
04:33 force, that used coercion,
04:35 that depend on military power and might in order to advance
04:40 themselves, by contrast, just for interest sake if we fast
04:44 forward to God's kingdom as it is represented in Scripture,
04:48 we discover that God chooses for His symbol, a lamb.
04:52 A lamb represents the kingdom of God.
04:56 A docile, meek and humble animal that is led to the
05:00 slaughter, God does not use the same principles
05:04 that human powers use.
05:06 God is not engaged in force and manipulation in order to
05:11 bring people to their knees and worship before Him.
05:14 But we see in the Lamb of God, Jesus Christ.
05:18 We see in the cross of Christ, we see the power that God
05:22 depends on and that is the power of truth and love.
05:25 That is a really good point Ty, in fact it is so powerful
05:28 when you look at that because the Lamb, of course being the
05:31 sacrificial beast of the Old
05:33 Testament, the sanctuary
05:34 service, and Jesus Christ
05:36 being typified by the Lamb,
05:38 the Lamb of God takes away
05:39 the sins of the world.
05:40 Yet, there is more power in that animal, or in the meaning
05:46 behind that, the principle of self-sacrifice, the principal
05:50 of love is more powerful than all the power combined in
05:55 all of these beasts.
05:56 How powerful? Jesus says, "and I, if I be lifted up,"
05:59 from the earth, from the cross, "will draw all to me. "
06:03 In other words the power of the cross, the power that is
06:07 embodied in the symbol of the Lamb is the power of God's
06:11 love to draw sinners to Himself without the use of force
06:15 and coercion.
06:17 It is a powerful thing to realize James, the Bible
06:20 throughout is communicating to us the awesome fact that
06:25 God does seek our salvation and our worship, but only on
06:30 the premise of a returning current of love to Him
06:33 because of the great love He has had for us.
06:35 You can see that this Chapter, Chapter 7 is in a very
06:40 real sense a parallel of Daniel Chapter 2.
06:43 There you had 4 parts of an image representing
06:46 different kingdoms, and it came down to the feet and
06:49 that feet divided into 10 parts.
06:50 Here you have 10 horns on this last beast, and those 10
06:54 horns would be parallel with those 10 toes in that image.
06:57 Then, like in the image, you have this rock,
07:00 this stone, that came and smote the image.
07:03 That hit the image at the feet.
07:05 Same here you have this vision continuing on until the
07:08 judgment and the return of Jesus Christ.
07:11 Until there is a judgment that takes place and the beast
07:15 is given to the burning flames.
07:17 You have some parallels here between these two prophecies.
07:20 That is powerful, so we have this succession of kingdoms.
07:23 We have 4 kingdoms that are mentioned and then Daniel
07:27 in verse 8 sees something that is very interesting and a
07:31 turn of events occurs with the fourth beast.
07:33 The 4th beast we have identified as the Roman empire in it's
07:39 secular form, in it's pagan form
07:42 Then he says that he sees a little horn come up out
07:48 of that fourth beast.
07:50 That little horn power is then the focus of the remainder
07:55 of Daniel Chapter 7 and there are specific characteristics
07:59 that identify it so that we know who this power is.
08:02 First of all we just need to realize that if you look at
08:05 the history books, it is obvious that there is only one
08:08 power that grew out of, and was the continuation of the
08:12 pagan Roman Empire and that was the papal Roman empire.
08:16 That is why there's only four beasts represented.
08:20 In fact the papal Roman empire was a Christianized
08:24 continuation of the pagan Roman empire.
08:28 The characteristics that are outlined are very fascinating.
08:31 They are, in fact we see this in relation to the first
08:35 verse, verse 8.
08:36 It plucked up three by the roots, it had the eyes
08:40 of a man, it came up among them.
08:41 That gives us a location and a little bit of the history
08:45 of the rise of this power.
08:47 It continues on until the judgment and that tells us that
08:50 this power that will come out of pagan Rome, will continue
08:54 on to the second coming of Jesus Christ.
08:55 So it has to be present day power.
08:57 Daniel, as he goes through the first part of this vision,
09:01 he is asking, verse 15, he's troubled and doesn't
09:06 understand the visions.
09:07 An angel comes near, a messenger comes near and Daniel wants
09:12 to know more about the interpretation but notice
09:15 what he says in verse 19.
09:16 He says, "then I would know"
09:18 "the truth of the fourth beast,"
09:20 "which was different from"
09:22 "all the others, exceeding"
09:23 "dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass:"
09:26 "which devoured, brake in pieces and stamp the residue with"
09:29 "his feet; and of the 10 horns that were in his head, and of"
09:32 "the other which came up, before whom three fell"
09:35 "even of that whole horn that had eyes,"
09:38 "and a mouth that spake great things,"
09:40 "whose look was more stout than his fellows. "
09:42 Daniel here is asking for more information, specifically
09:45 about the little horn, about the fourth beast.
09:47 That seems to be what the rest of Daniel 7 focuses in on.
09:51 There is another characteristic
09:53 of this power is
09:54 brought to view in verse 8
09:58 and also down in verses 20-22.
10:01 You have the fact that this power will speak, in my
10:05 version it says, "pompous words against the most high,"
10:08 this is the New King James version.
10:10 The King James Version renders that characteristic will
10:14 "speak great words against the most high".
10:17 Another translation would indicate that this is "defaming"
10:23 "words against the most high. "
10:24 If you go and compare Revelation Chapter 13, another word is used
10:28 to fill out the meaning here and that is that this power
10:31 would speak " blasphemous words against the most high. "
10:34 All of these translations indicates simply that the
10:38 little horn power will focus its attention on defaming
10:43 the character of God, will focus it's attention on assuming
10:47 divine prerogatives and power, and will set itself up in
10:52 a capacity that brings blasphemy upon the character of God.
10:57 So this is another one of the characteristics.
10:59 Notice in verse 21 that it says that this, "Daniel beheld,"
11:03 "and the little horn made war with the Saints,"
11:06 "and prevailed against them;"
11:08 so it is a persecuting power.
11:11 Then it says in verse 22 this will continue on "until the"
11:15 "Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the"
11:20 "Saints of the most high; and the time came that the Saints"
11:23 "possess the kingdom. "
11:24 This is really interesting, I read also in the New King
11:27 James and it says, "judgment was made in favor of the"
11:30 "Saints and the most high. "
11:32 So you have a power that is warring against God's people,
11:36 the Saints, as they are identified here.
11:38 That is warring and persecuting people, a power that is assuming
11:42 the prerogatives of God, is speaking words that are
11:45 defaming God, defaming His character, or misrepresenting
11:49 God, and a power that is identified as coming out of
11:53 the pagan Roman power.
11:55 Yes, and then there is another characteristic that we
11:57 must mention James, and that is in verse 25.
12:00 That the little horn power will be a power that seeks,
12:06 or intends, or thinks to change times and laws.
12:13 Now this is fascinating because the context of verse 25
12:17 Isn't just that this power will think to change times and
12:21 laws as in any times and law.
12:23 It says he shall speak pompous words against the most high,
12:26 persecute the Saints and intend to change times and laws.
12:29 The indication here, grammatically and in the context
12:33 is that we can expect this power to attempt to change
12:37 the times and laws of the most high.
12:40 This power is tampering with the law of God.
12:44 This is so profound because as you look at the context
12:48 of the book of Daniel, the theme that you find in the
12:52 book of Daniel is the New Covenant theme.
12:54 It is the theme of the
12:55 everlasting covenant.
12:56 This theme is vital for God's
12:59 people to understand
13:00 especially in the end of time.
13:02 It is vital for us to recognize
13:03 what the New Covenant is so
13:05 that we can enter into that
13:06 New Covenant, that everlasting covenant with God.
13:08 One of the main themes that has been developed so far,
13:11 in the book of Daniel, its relationship.
13:13 We are going to look at this further, but God has designed
13:18 from the beginning that we would have an intimate
13:20 relationship with Him.
13:22 When He created us, He came to us every day at the cool
13:26 of the day and He met with us.
13:27 He walked with us and He talked with us.
13:29 Even when we sin, even when we turned away from Him,
13:32 even when we were hiding from God in that garden,
13:35 even as we turned from Him, He still came seeking after us.
13:39 Now the first six chapters of Daniel are intimately
13:43 directing us to that relationship experience.
13:46 Time and time again you see relationship, relationship
13:49 faith in God, understanding God, being drawn to God.
13:51 You see Nebuchadnezzar being drawn to God.
13:53 You see Darius being drawn to God.
13:54 Daniel relying on God and Daniel's friends relying on God.
13:57 So the very first half of this book has been developing
14:01 this New Covenant, everlasting gospel theme.
14:03 So as we've gone through Chapter 7 so far we have
14:07 identified the basic symbols, we see the basic powers
14:10 that are identified through the beast and focusing
14:13 in on the little horn.
14:14 Now we are seeing that there is a New Covenant theme in
14:18 the book of Daniel that comes to development here in
14:22 Chapter 7 as this power seeks to defaming God's character,
14:26 to break relationships with God, between Him and His
14:29 people, through persecuting them and blaspheming His
14:32 character, and changing God's law, which is at the heart
14:35 of the New Covenant.
14:36 Friends as we come back after the break, we are going to
14:39 explore in greater details the various features of the
14:42 New Covenant and how it is that God intends to lead us
14:46 into a relationship with Himself through that New Covenant.
14:49 So stay with us because we'll be right back!