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00:19 Welcome again to Digital Disconnect.
00:21 I am your host Scott Ritsema. 00:24 And here we are now in program number 2: 00:26 The Heart of the Children. 00:29 That's the thing I hear the most when I travel around 00:31 and speak at churches, when I meet strangers 00:33 and they ask what do I do: "Well I speak on the dangers 00:36 and effects of media. " "Oh, my grandkids! " 00:39 "Oh, the kids! " So we're going to talk about 00:41 the family, the hearts of the children. Before we begin 00:45 I didn't do much introduction of myself. 00:47 I come from Michigan. My wife and three children 00:50 want to say hello to you, and my wife says "thank you" 00:53 that you're not requiring her to be on camera 00:55 and be a speaker with Scott Ritsema. 00:58 Cami Ritsema, my beloved wife, does a fantastic job 01:01 at a higher calling than a speaker does. But 01:04 they want to say hello, and I have had an experience 01:08 of going around for the past decade or so 01:11 doing seminars on media. 01:14 And the seminar was called Media on the Brain. 01:16 And it's such a joy to be able to adapt some of that 01:20 content here for the 3ABN audience. 01:23 It's an honor really to be able to be here with you. 01:26 Recently the issues of media have not been getting 01:29 less and less... they've been growing more and more. 01:32 In fact, frankly when I started speaking on media 01:35 my hope was that this could be a short-lived thing 01:38 and it's getting so out of control in the 20-teens. 01:42 Maybe people will have the wake-up call 01:44 and we won't need to do the Media on the Brain seminar. 01:47 Well, things only seem to be getting worse and worse 01:50 as the years go on 01:51 as we saw the statistics in the opening session. 01:54 So the second seminar called The Media Mind 01:57 was produced just a few years ago 01:59 to amplify the call and the invitation 02:03 to "Come apart and be separate saith the Lord. 02:05 Touch no unclean thing. " 02:07 So people often say you know when they have an opportunity 02:10 to share with people: "You can find me on Twitter 02:13 at such and such. " Or "You can find me on FaceBook. " 02:16 And I"ll tell you, I'm not big on social media myself. 02:20 I have a FaceBook account. We'll talk about that. 02:22 How can we do these things in a balanced way? 02:24 But the best way to find me is at beltoftruth.tv 02:28 And so you may look things up on social media 02:31 and try to get ahold of me there but that's a challenge 02:34 to say the least because I don't man those accounts very well. 02:37 But I do love to be out in nature. 02:39 We're going to talk a little bit about nature in this session. 02:42 We're going to talk about the design for a Godly family. 02:45 And I'm in the trenches with that right now. 02:47 Not because I'm an expert. You know, every parent 02:50 realizes their own flaws and failings and shortcomings. 02:54 But coming from that perspec- tive, the Hearts of the Children 02:57 session is deeply important to me. 03:01 And so when I think about the opening slide here 03:04 and then we will begin with prayer 03:06 this broke my heart when I saw the 03:11 the fact that a baby, a BABY, 03:16 was left while mom and dad were playing their video games. 03:20 This was in So. Korea. They made a documentary about this. 03:23 This was absolutely horrific. 03:25 Mom and dad were playing their video games 03:27 getting immersed in that. The baby is left 03:29 crying, going 12 hours sometimes without being fed. 03:34 The baby died, and it was an international story 03:38 that "How have we gotten to this point? " 03:41 So I want to get into this session by just reminding 03:44 ourselves that we're not looking at just what not to do: 03:48 excessive media, worldly media. 03:50 It's "What does God want us to do instead? " 03:53 How can we re-discover how to be human again 03:56 in our labor, in our study, in our creative enterprises, 04:01 in business, in ministry outlets, 04:03 service to others, in music, in the arts? 04:08 In reading and writing, physical books. 04:11 Cooking, baking, gardening... I mean the list is endless 04:16 in terms of the beauty and captivating nature 04:19 of the reality God designed for us to live within. 04:22 That is what we are seeking 04:24 in the Digital Disconnect series of programs. 04:27 So let's being with prayer, shall we? 04:30 Father in heaven, we thank you so much 04:32 that we can come before You and ask Your blessing upon this 04:35 session. We pray that this information 04:38 would come to us at the heart level and we would be 04:41 led according to Your path. 04:43 In Jesus' name we pray, Amen. 04:46 There's a study that was done some time ago 04:48 and it found that parents with small children in the home 04:53 the little children on their devices, the parents doing 04:56 their thing. And they found in this focused study 05:00 on these families in their homes 05:01 that the majority of parents, you know how much interaction 05:03 they had with their children while their children were on 05:05 their devices? Zero... none at all. 05:09 That's not like a little less than we should. 05:10 We're all guilty of that. 05:12 It's not like half the time; it's not barely any. 05:14 It's flat out zero. 05:16 The media mind has become alone and disconnected. 05:20 The mind of Christ, though: connected. 05:23 The digital disconnect can re- connect us with our loved ones. 05:27 Children actually spend today twice as much time 05:32 on their Smartphones as talking to their parents. 05:35 And likewise it goes the other way. 05:37 Parents spend twice as much time just watching Netflix alone 05:42 than all quality time with their children combined. 05:45 Can you believe that? 05:47 We also are dealing with a time when the average child 05:50 will now watch more television 05:52 or on a computer, an iPad, whatever, 05:55 by the age of 6 than all conversation with 05:58 its father in its entire life. 06:01 I don't know what to say at that point other than 06:03 an epic tragedy of apocalyptic proportions. 06:06 But it's interesting that the big tech executives 06:10 seem to do things a little bit differently. 06:12 Have you ever heard the names Steve Jobs and Bill Gates? 06:15 They were interviewed... Jobs before his death 06:18 and Bill Gates when he had teenagers in the home... 06:21 and they asked about these men's homes 06:24 and how they do media. 06:26 And interestingly they both made a comment 06:28 about a specific time of the day 06:30 that is media free and the whole family comes together. 06:34 Now these are secular people 06:36 and this is the world's standard: 06:37 they insisted on mealtime together. 06:40 Isn't that pretty basic? We can start there 06:42 and we can go way beyond that as well. 06:44 But if they can get that - and this is the graphic 06:47 that you want to see at the restaurant down the road - 06:58 Yeah, the good old days when we used to look at each other. 07:01 In the eye... not like Zoom where we're kind of making 07:05 eye contact but not quite. 07:07 Talk to each other; pretend it's 1995. 07:10 Well they actually did a study on people who go on a romantic 07:13 date with their significant other. 07:15 And they wanted to see how many times a device 07:18 interrupts the date. I mean, you're spending the money; 07:21 you're going out to have a good time with your wife. 07:24 And they found in surveys that the majority of romantic dates 07:27 are interrupted by the device 07:29 and somebody feels snubbed... or they have a name for that: 07:32 it's called being "phubbed" 07:34 being snubbed by your phone. 07:35 And they said that there's more technoference 07:38 in such relationships, and technoference is correlated with 07:41 lower relationship satisfaction. Probably no surprise 07:45 there, and it carries on into the home as well... 07:47 not just on the dates. 07:49 Parents, children: you're on your devices. 07:50 University of Michigan study looked at 07:53 how does the social dynamic become affected by that context 07:56 of people being distracted or people being in different places 07:59 or people having their devices right in the same place as you. 08:02 And they found "tension" was their word 08:04 increased markedly when the presence of devices 08:07 came into the communal social context in the home. 08:10 That probably doesn't surprise us either 08:12 'cause God has a better plan. You see 08:14 God always has the answer to all of our media issues. 08:17 When you think about what it says in Deuteronomy 6 08:20 you know, it's the foundational text: "Love the Lord your God 08:24 with all your heart, with all your soul, 08:26 with all your mind, with all your strength. 08:29 Love your neighbor as yourself. " 08:32 Jesus added the second one: 08:34 "Love your neighbor as yourself. " 08:35 And now when I see the rest of the text in Deuteronomy 6 08:39 when you read into that it says: 08:41 "Parents, talk about the Word of God with your children 08:44 as you rise up and lie down. " 08:47 There's morning and evening worship. 08:49 "As you walk by the way, 08:51 as you sit in your house... " Maybe at mealtime 08:54 like Psalm 128 that says: "The children 08:57 will rise up like olive plants round about our table. " 09:00 So God has a plan to restore the family. 09:03 Well today less than 1 in 15 families 09:05 are actually interacting at least half the time 09:08 when they're in the home together. 09:10 And even more tragically we're not talking about 09:12 the Word of God as we rise up and lie down, 09:14 as we walk by the way, as we sit in our house. 09:17 Less than 1 in 10 "born again Christian" families 09:21 ever opens the Word of God together during a given week 09:24 according to Barna Research... less than 1 in 10. 09:28 So 90% of families just aren't doing anything spiritual 09:32 together. So God DOES HAVE the answer to this as always 09:35 though. In Psalm 128:3 the children at the table 09:39 like olive plants. And also if you think about 09:43 the studies that have been done on this 09:45 children develop their spiritual and emotional intelligence 09:49 through facial contact, human contact, 09:53 parental love and voice from babyhood. 09:57 And Dr. Catherine Steiner-Adair has actually studied this 10:00 in great depth and has interviewed 10:03 childcare professionals, pre-school teachers. 10:06 And one thing she has found is to a person 10:09 these early child development on-the-ground practitioners 10:14 are saying: "Well the children these days 10:16 as opposed to just 10, 15 years ago 10:18 aren't making eye contact like they used to. 10:21 They're not having con- versations like they used to. " 10:24 In fact, I was actually talking to a daycare provider 10:26 who did daycare for 50 years. Now this lady 10:30 had been on this for half a century, OK? 10:33 so she'd seen generations of kids come up. 10:35 And I asked her: "What the #1 thing that has changed 10:37 this generation versus previous generations? " 10:40 And she said: "Oh, by far it's the language, 10:43 conversation, eye contact, and emotional expression. " 10:47 Researchers call that emotional intelligence. 10:50 Or we can talk about it as sociability. 10:53 We can talk about it as love. 10:54 That's how the Bible refers to it. 10:56 Concern and care for others. 10:58 And the children are struggling with this in a major major 11:02 magnitude. But the world has its own "solutions. " 11:06 I was really shocked by this graphic that you'll see here. 11:16 Robots... they call them social robots. 11:19 Now I never thought I'd see the day 11:21 when you would have as the solution to a lack of 11:25 empathy and love artificial intelligence. 11:28 It's artificial. They're going to teach children 11:30 emotional intelligence and how to interact socially. 11:33 That's barking up the wrong tree to say the least. 11:37 But you've seen already the devil has an assault 11:40 and attack on the children, on the home, on the family unit. 11:44 That comes as no surprise to anybody. 11:46 But did you know Biblically this was foreshadowed? 11:48 What were the 3 biggest events in the history of redemption? 11:52 Now you're going way back to the Garden of Eden, OK? 11:55 The three biggest events after the fall 11:57 in the history of redemption. Now some people might say: 12:01 "Well I think that must be the flood. 12:03 That's one of them. " Well, we're going to rule that one out 12:05 'cause that was cleansing the earth. 12:08 I'm looking for redemptive... like the three biggest 12:11 moments of redemption. 12:13 God taking His people out of Egypt. 12:16 Bringing them to Mt. Sinai and delivering the law - 12:19 the Ten Commandments - and taking His people into Canaan 12:22 to start the nation of Israel to be a kingdom of priests 12:26 unto the Most High God. 12:27 The second one? Jesus' first coming. 12:30 Everybody knew that when I asked the question. 12:33 Jesus coming to this earth being incarnated 12:36 as a baby, living a perfect life 12:39 showing infinite and eternal types of love 12:44 in ministry to the lost and hurting. 12:46 Dying on the cross for our sins. 12:49 You can't get more redemptive than that. 12:51 And raising from the dead and ascending into heaven. 12:54 We're going to call all of that one event, OK? 12:57 First event: the taking of Israel out of Egypt. 13:01 The second event being the first coming of Christ. 13:04 The third you could say is the last days 13:08 and the second coming of Christ. 13:10 We'll loop that into one event. 13:13 What do all three of these events have in common? 13:15 Well, there was always Biblically and now 13:19 both God using the children in His redemptive work 13:24 and Satan seeking to assault the children. 13:27 What did Pharaoh do there back in Egypt? 13:29 It was throw the babies in the Nile. 13:33 At Jesus' first coming it was kill all the babies 13:36 in and around Bethlehem... Herod's wicked edict. 13:41 Today you could say there is a similar assault 13:43 on the lives of unborn children. 13:46 But even beyond that: "Fear not he who can kill the body 13:49 but not the soul but He who can destroy both soul and body 13:52 in hell. " Soul is even more important. 13:55 Satan's after the souls of the children in these last days. 13:58 Why? Because God wants to use the children. 14:01 God wants to use the children in a powerful way 14:03 to finish the work. Didn't He use Miriam back there 14:06 in the time of Egypt when Moses was a baby 14:08 and going to lead his people out? 14:10 Didn't God use the children and Jesus' first coming 14:12 to shout "Hosanna! " and proclaim that the Messiah 14:15 had come? The children of these last days 14:18 can finish the work. And this is not some novel 14:22 and new thing. During the Protestant Reformation 14:24 children were endued by the Spirit of God 14:27 and proclaimed miraculously the truth for that time. 14:31 And the same thing during the great second advent awakening 14:34 of the 19th century. 14:36 And so Satan is trying to short circuit God's plan 14:40 to use children and to develop children to grow 14:43 into youth and an army of youth that can finish the work: 14:46 the gospel work in these last days. 14:48 And it starts with things like having meals together. 14:52 I mean that was big picture stuff we were just talking about 14:55 but just doing life in our homes on a daily basis 14:58 in a godly way according to the Biblical standard and model 15:02 is how we're going to develop children who have that love 15:05 for souls. We were talking about love and empathy 15:08 and emotional intelligence and all of those things. 15:10 You might say: "Well, the kids of this generation are 15:13 ruined! The media has totally ruined them! " 15:15 God has the answer to this. 15:17 In fact they've studied getting kids out of their media, 15:20 take them out in nature, 15:22 have them do team-building exercises. 15:24 Have them be engaging in hiking and archery 15:28 and all sorts of fun camp stuff, right? 15:30 They took the kids out of LA for a 5-day nature excursion. 15:34 "You get to leave school but you've gotta leave your media 15:37 behind. Oh, boy! " But they loved it. 15:39 And these kids on emotional intelligence scores 15:43 in just 5 days had improved their emotional intelligence. 15:47 That means they're starting to come alive! 15:49 They're starting to be more interpersonal 15:52 and those things kids are struggling with so much now 15:54 were being resolved in just 5 days. 15:57 Isn't that a beautiful thing? God always has the answers 15:59 to these problems that we face. 16:01 But the problems go beyond those young kids. 16:03 These were pre-teens that they took out. 16:05 When you look at teenage kids 16:08 you look at the researcher Jean Twenge. 16:10 There's a graphic of some quotations from her book 16:13 Igen. And she's the San Diego State University 16:16 researcher who looked at this generation's media use 16:20 and how it's impacting them. 16:21 And she says: "These teens are: 16:32 And this is not some gradual change over time. 16:35 This is something she had said around 2011ish 16:39 like when Smartphones were becoming ubiquitous 16:41 and social media was becoming the big thing 16:43 and everybody's living online now. 16:45 That was the time when the charts & graphs skyrocketed 16:48 this way and this way and massive changes happened 16:51 in "teenagehood... " not GOOD changes. 16:53 You heard there: "totally unprepared for adulthood. " 16:56 Arrested development. We could say the media mind 16:59 is in a state of arrested development. 17:02 But God's program and plan for us - 17:05 the mind of Christ - we are all developing properly. 17:08 Children and youth according to the schedule of development, 17:11 and we are all developing, aren't we? 17:14 Transformed by the renewing of our minds 17:16 even if we're full grown. 17:17 But the struggles of practical living begin early 17:21 in the media age. There's a graphic of 17:24 The Telegraph newspaper which says: 17:31 That was a survey that was done in the UK where 2/3 of teachers 17:36 said that they were concerned 17:38 about the lack of self-help skills that the children have. 17:41 "Five-year-olds know how to swipe a phone 17:43 but don't have a clue about conversations" 17:46 said these teachers. 17:47 Others have pointed out that more kindergartners 17:50 know how to use a Smartphone app than to tie their shoelaces! 17:54 And there are other headlines from prominent news outlets 17:57 saying: "Children learning to tie shoelaces 17:59 later than ever before. " 18:01 Kids use so much tech they can't hold pencils 18:03 like they once could. Study says kids understand 18:06 Smartphones better than real life. 18:09 I mean the headlines are shouting these things 18:11 about the struggle with children just on a practical level... 18:14 children's practical abilities. 18:17 And it's not just the fine motor skills. 18:19 I know holding a pencil is hard for a little kid. 18:21 I know getting down and tying your shoelaces: 18:23 that's hard for a little kid. 18:25 But it's even gross motor skills. 18:27 It's the jumping and playing and running 18:29 and the core muscles are weaker among children. 18:33 And you're like: "Well that's strange. What is going on? " 18:35 Why are playground injuries increased right now versus 18:39 a generation ago when the playground equipment is 18:42 way safer? I mean you remember the playground equipment? 18:44 Look at this graphic. The old- style playground equipment 18:48 safety wasn't a first at that time. Fun was first. 18:52 And now safety is first. Why are playground injuries 18:55 increasing? Well, it's simply kids aren't playing 18:59 enough and they're not learning their boundaries. 19:01 They're not learning how to play safely 19:03 'cause they're not playing enough. So injuries 19:04 actually increase even though the equipment 19:07 has become more safe. 19:08 Others have talked about the lack of good quality 19:12 candidates for surgical students. 19:15 That's a UK Guardian headline graphic there: 19:24 I spoke with an auto mechanics teacher in 2019, 19:28 a number of years ago and I asked him: 19:30 "OK, tell me about how are the young people doing with 19:34 their auto mechanics skills? " 19:36 Here they are in high school; they're learning auto mechanic 19:38 skills. And he said: "Scott, it's quite sobering. 19:42 You wouldn't believe it. 19:44 I used to get the majority of my students proficient. 19:46 Now I'm happy if I can get 15% of them 19:50 up to par where they ought to be after a semester with me. " 19:54 A drastic change in one generation. 19:56 And I'm not saying that to judge or look down on... 19:59 And Jean Twenge isn't trying to be rude when she says 20:01 "the young people today are not prepared for adulthood. " 20:04 And "they are doing at 18 what they used to do at 15" 20:07 and so on. It's a cry for help 20:10 that we need to be helping these young people develop. 20:14 But you might say: "Aren't they learning things? 20:16 Playing video games you're learning a lot of skills. " 20:19 Um... on the graphic you'll see a researcher 20:22 named Maggie Jackson who came out with this statement: 20:33 So that's what we're learning primarily through 20:36 video game play. And the even more important issue 20:39 is what we're not learning, what we're not doing 20:41 when we're playing video games: 20:42 so many wonderful and productive and uplifting things 20:45 that could bring so much richness to our lives. 20:48 When you look at video games just the factor of 20:50 addiction coming in. 20:51 Young adults... not just children and youth 20:53 but young adults checking into rehab 20:57 for video game addiction 20:59 which I discuss in Media on the Brain. 21:02 It's in episode #5, disc #5 of Media on the Brain. 21:06 It's called The Demise of Guys. 21:08 You can watch that at beltoftruth.tv 21:10 I don't have time to get into it all at this particular moment. 21:13 In the Hearts of the Children, but even our young adults 21:16 arrested development... still in that child-like state 21:20 in many ways. You could say the media mind is lacking 21:23 practical skills but the mind of Christ is well rounded. 21:27 Now I want to share with you some other things 21:28 Jean Twenge points out in her book. You'll see 21:31 that there's a bullet- pointed list on the graphic 21:34 that we'll go through. 21:53 In fact, a quarter of them still don't have their 21:55 driver's licenses when they are graduating from high school. 21:58 So this is a dramatic change versus a generation ago. 22:01 And we start young on putting them in this position 22:04 of arrested development. We start with our babies. 22:06 We do what's called... Oh boy! As soon as they have a name 22:09 for it I feel super convicted. They call this 22:11 continuous partial attention. 22:14 So you're paying attention to your children continuously 22:17 but only partly. So you're on your device; 22:19 you're doing your thing and the baby's over here. 22:21 Personal story... shame on me. 22:23 My baby girl is crawling. First thing in the morning 22:26 she's out. I'm out... I'm checking the weather. 22:28 She's crawling toward the cabinets where the dishes 22:32 and stuff are in the kitchen. 22:33 And I'm like: "OK, I'll go see her in a minute. " 22:36 Well I look up and I see she's crawling toward 22:39 mousetraps that my wife had laid the night before. 22:42 And I throw my phone down and I quick run and grab her 22:45 and pick her up. But she was that close 22:47 because of my negligence... 22:48 because of continuous partial attention 22:51 that I pay to my children in my weaker moments. 22:54 Lord forgive me. 22:55 We all want to overcome these things, don't we? 22:57 You know they have another name for it: 22:59 they say when parents are on their devices 23:01 even if you're going media-free with the kids 23:04 it's second-hand screen time. 23:06 The children are actually affected prefrontally 23:09 in a negative way when they're not doing any media 23:13 but the parents are doing the media in their presence. 23:15 It's like second-hand smoke. 23:16 Second hand screen time. 23:18 It's basically what they're not getting from you: 23:21 the attention, the interest, the love. 23:23 Research has shown that when children are 23:27 pleading for attention, they're bidding for attention 23:30 and they don't get it, the amygdala in the brain fires off 23:33 like a fear and anxiety circuit. 23:35 And that's enhancing the limbic system of their brain 23:38 maldeveloping it in an imbalanced way. 23:41 And even in fact, dogs they say 23:43 can suffer with us being on our devices so much 23:47 in terms of the happiness that a little doggie has in the home. 23:50 So when I was confronted with these things myself 23:53 you remember the bullet-pointed list of all the questions 23:56 that we have that we're asking ourselves in these programs 24:00 one of the questions is: 24:05 Are they with us all the time 24:08 24/7, everywhere we go with our children, 24:11 with our loved ones? 24:12 Or maybe did you see the image of the old telephone 24:15 with the hook to the phone that was off the hook? 24:18 Made that terrible noise but you'd want to put the phone 24:20 on the hook. If there's children watching this, by the way, 24:23 that thing was called a telephone. 24:25 Not tell-a-phone. It's one word: telephone. 24:31 I know you probably have never heard of one 24:33 but you used to pick it up and dial. 24:35 And when you dial if somebody had a lot of 9's and 0's 24:38 in their number it would take forever for you to call 24:41 your friend or your auntie or whatever. 24:43 And the telephone was always stationary, wasn't it? 24:47 It was literally plugged into the wall 24:49 and couldn't be taken anywhere. 24:50 Maybe we need to bring back the concept of having a hook. 24:53 My wife and I did that for a time. 24:55 We said: "We've got to get these things under control... 24:57 not always present with us with the family, with the children. " 25:01 So we developed a place in the house. 25:03 It was a charging station. The phones just stay back there. 25:06 And when we need to use it we use it 25:08 but it's not going to be constantly interrupting 25:10 family time that way. 25:11 That's an idea to consider. 25:13 'Cause when you look at screens & spiritual development 25:16 the number one way that children develop spiritually 25:20 is through warm interaction in the home, parent and child. 25:24 That's the number one factor correlating to their accepting 25:27 the spiritual values of the parents 25:30 is that the spiritual values are taught, 25:32 the trues are taught in an atmosphere or relational 25:35 connectedness and warmth. 25:36 Boy, doesn't that bring prophecy to mind. 25:39 Didn't Jesus say in Matthew 12 that in the last days 25:42 there would be a division in the home? 25:44 That it would be 3 against 2 and 2 against 3 25:47 and a man's enemies would be members of his own household. 25:50 Well, I have good news: 25:51 we can fulfill the good prophecy in Malachi. 25:54 At the end of the Old Testament, 25:56 the very last verse of the Old Testament, 25:58 the last chapter of the Old Testament says 26:00 that in the last days the hearts of the children 26:03 will be turned to the hearts of the fathers. 26:05 And there are bigger spiritual implications there 26:08 but in the home that has a very real practical application 26:12 that we can know that we are connecting with our children. 26:15 Now I want you to hear some of the voices of the children. 26:18 Colin, age 12, when interviewed about this said: 26:22 "There are definitely some parts that make it seem like 26:24 my parents are really addicted to their phone 26:28 and I feel like my dad is with his computer, definitely. 26:32 I mean, if he's like awake at 1, he'll check on the dog 26:35 and then he'll look at his com- puter and be on it till like 5 26:38 and think it was like 5 minutes and then the next day 26:41 he's really tired. " Angela, age 13: 26:44 "What I wish my parents understood is that 26:46 technology isn't the whole world. 26:48 It's annoying because it's like you also have a family. 26:51 How about we just spend some time together? 26:53 And they're like: 'Wait, I need to just check something 26:55 on my phone. I need to call work 26:58 and see what's going on. ' " 26:59 Tyler, age 7, said: 27:01 "My mom is almost always on the iPad at dinner. 27:05 She's always 'just checking. ' " 27:07 Penny, age 7: "I always keep on asking her 27:10 'Let's play; let's play' 27:11 and she's always texting on her phone. " 27:14 Owen, age 9: "Once my dad was ignoring my mom so bad 27:18 for like 30 minutes so I sat on his keyboard. " 27:21 Yeah, this is what happens when we don't find God's solutions 27:24 to these things. 27:26 He says: "I got in trouble. " 27:28 You know, maybe the parents are in trouble. 27:30 Am I in trouble with God 27:32 when He wants to bring forgiveness and restoration? 27:34 Wait till you hear what Anabelle says 27:36 in the next program. God will give you the victory. |
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