Digging Up the Past

Papal Rome

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: David Down


Series Code: DUTP

Program Code: DUTP000013

00:01 For this program, we take you to Rome,
00:03 where we have a look around St. Peter's Cathedral,
00:06 one of the most magnificent church buildings in the world.
00:09 Here, David will explain the bible prophecy of the Antichrist
00:47 We are now in St. Peter's square I figure it should be
00:51 more accurately described as a circle. And here St. Peter's,
00:55 one of the greatest churches of Christendom.
00:58 At the entrance of the church, there is a door.
01:02 Its called the Jubilee Door because its only open about
01:05 once every 50 years. The pope comes and walks through this
01:08 door and that is just a jubilee occasion. Inside the church
01:14 not very far inside, there is a statue of St. Peter.
01:17 This is a very ancient statue, although, of course,
01:20 it doesn't go back to St. Peter, himself.
01:22 But there are occasions when this statue is clothed
01:27 with the papal robes - the pope's robes,
01:29 and is worshiped. Then further inside, there is a magnificent
01:34 Basilica, and it is believed that beneath this basilica
01:38 are the bones of St. Peter. There's no archaeological
01:40 evidence to support this; but this is what is commonly
01:44 believed. Down below the church, the floor level of the church,
01:47 the popes are buried and there are some magnificent statues
01:51 down there. Before a pope dies, he chooses his place
01:54 to be buried and the statues that should surmount his
01:58 burial place. Well, the Roman Catholic church is a very
02:02 important church. And it figures very largely in bible prophecy.
02:06 On one occasion the prophet, Daniel, dreamed that he was
02:09 by the seashore and had a dream in which he saw this
02:14 church. In Daniel, chapter 7, the prophet says,
02:18 I saw in my vision by night, and behold the 4 winds of heaven
02:23 were stirring up the great sea, and four great beasts
02:27 came up from the sea, each different from the other.
02:30 The first was like a lion. Now these 4 beasts are symbolic of
02:35 four great kingdoms, or empires which would come on the scene of
02:39 action in the middle east; because it says in verse 17,
02:41 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings
02:46 which shall arise out of the earth. Now a king symbolizes
02:50 a kingdom, because in verse 23 it says, The fourth kingdom
02:53 on earth would be the fourth beast. So here are four kingdoms
02:58 that would arise. And it tells us that the first was like a
03:02 lion and had eagle's wings. Well now here we have artist's
03:07 concept of what this first beast must have looked like.
03:11 And I think he's done a very good job, too, hasn't he?
03:13 And so Daniel saw a lion with eagle's wings coming up out
03:17 of the water. The water represents the warring nations.
03:21 And what nation is represented by this particular beast?
03:25 You know, whenever you come to bible prophecy you need to allow
03:29 the bible to interpret itself and that's exactly what we can
03:32 do with this particular kingdom; because in Jeremiah, chapter 4,
03:36 the prophet, Jeremiah, was speaking about the invading
03:41 Babylonian armies that were approaching Jerusalem.
03:43 And he says in verse 7, A lion is come up from his thicket,
03:48 the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way.
03:51 He has gone forth from his place to make your land desolate.
03:55 Your cities will be laid waste without inhabitant.
03:58 And so Babylon was referred to as a lion.
04:02 And the eagle's wings? well it says here in verse 13,
04:05 His horses are swifter than eagles. And so the wings
04:10 denote the fact that the Babylonian invasion will be a
04:13 very swift invasion. Well, the Babylonians came on the scene
04:16 in 612 BC, when together with the Medes, they conquered the
04:22 great city of Nineveh. And then in 605 BC, the Babylonians
04:26 conquered Jerusalem and were masters of the middle east.
04:30 Nebuchadnezzar, the architect, of the great Neo-Babylonian
04:34 empire, remained on the scene for more than 40 years.
04:38 And so the Babylonians were rulers of the middle east
04:41 right up until the year 539 BC. Now what was the next kingdom
04:48 on the scene? In verse 7 it says Suddenly another beast, a second
04:53 like a bear. It was raised up on one side and it had 3 ribs
04:57 in its mouth between its teeth. So, here we have the artist's
05:01 concept of what the bear must have looked like with the 3 ribs
05:04 and what does this represent? Well obviously this would
05:07 be the next kingdom that came on the scene.
05:09 And that was the kingdom of the Medes and the Persians.
05:11 King Cyrus marched his forces down the Euphrates river
05:15 and found the gates open of Babylon, marched in,
05:19 in the year 539 BC and occupied the city. And so Medo-Persia
05:26 became the next great empire. The three ribs? Well, no doubt
05:29 that symbolizes the 3 nations that the Medo-Persians
05:33 conquered. One, of course, was Babylon, the other was Libya
05:37 and the other was Egypt. And so the Medo-Persian empire
05:40 is symbolized by this bear with the 3 ribs, lifting itself up on
05:45 one side? Well, at first, the Medes were the stronger
05:50 of the 2 nations; but afterwards Persians
05:52 became the stronger. And so you've got the two sides
05:55 of this empire, fittingly symbolized by the bear
05:58 with the two sides. Then came the next beast.
06:02 In verse 6 it tells us, After this, I looked, and there was
06:07 another like a leopard, which had on its back, 4 wings of a
06:11 bird. The beast also had 4 heads and dominion was given
06:15 to it. The kingdom that followed the Medo-Persian
06:19 kingdom was that of Alexander the Great, of Macedon
06:22 And he is very fittingly symbolized by a leopard.
06:25 You know, a leopard can move fast. One of the fastest
06:28 moving animals there is in the world. And in contrast,
06:32 to the bear, the bear is very strong but very unwieldy.
06:36 And that's the way it was with the vast Medo-Persian army -
06:39 Strong, powerful, but very hard to maneuver.
06:42 Alexander's strength laid in the fact of his maneuverability
06:48 and so he is very fittingly symbolized by the leopard,
06:51 with the eagle's wings for swiftness.
06:54 Why the four heads? Because when Alexander died
06:58 prematurely, at the age of only 32 years of age, in Babylon,
07:02 he had no heir to succeed him. And so he was succeeded
07:07 ultimately by his four generals. Cassander, Lysimachus,
07:11 Selucus, and Ptolemy. And they divided the Macedonian empire
07:16 between them. Hence this beast has four heads.
07:20 And so it was in the year 331 that Alexander finally
07:25 defeated the Medo-Persian Darius the third and became
07:29 the master of the middle east. Now comes the fourth beast.
07:34 Daniel had just never seen anything like this in his life.
07:37 It says in verse 7, After this in the night visions, behold a
07:42 fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong
07:47 It had huge iron teeth. It was devouring, breaking in pieces
07:52 and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different
07:55 from all the beasts that were before it and it had 10 horns.
08:00 Now this obviously represents the great iron monarchy of Rome.
08:05 And so Rome came on the scene in the year 168 BC when they
08:11 finally ousted the Greeks at the battle of Pidnah.
08:14 Rome is very fittingly symbolized by this beast;
08:17 because it was an iron monarchy. It was very fierce. It was very
08:22 strong, and it strode across the Mediterranean, all over Europe,
08:26 and established an empire, stretching from the United
08:30 Kingdom or England in the top and right down to Africa and to
08:35 Mesopotamia in the east and south. Now why the 10 horns?
08:39 Simply because there is no 5th beast. Did you ever stop to
08:44 think that prophecy not only tells us what is the future, but
08:49 it is able to predict the limit to what will happen.
08:52 And so there are not 5 beasts here; because there wasn't a
08:56 5th empire. The 5th stage of affairs was simply the division
09:02 of the empire of Rome into 10 pieces The barbarian invasions
09:08 of that whole. And so these are fittingly symbolized
09:11 by the 10 horns on this beast. Now after Daniel had seen these
09:18 10 horns, he describes another horn that came on the scene.
09:23 It says in verse 8, I was considering the horns and there
09:29 was another horn, a little one, coming up among them before
09:34 whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots.
09:37 Now it gives us further information over here in
09:41 verse 24. He says, The 10 horns are 10 kings and another shall
09:47 arise after them and he shall be different from the first ones.
09:51 I want you to notice 3 distinctive identification marks
09:55 here. The first is, it came up among the ten.
09:59 Secondly, it came up after the 10. And thirdly,
10:04 it plucked up 3 of the horns by the roots.
10:08 Now, its very significant that it says, this little horn was
10:13 different from the others. Now the others were political
10:16 kingdoms and that must surely mean that this is a religious
10:20 kingdom. Now there's only one religious kingdom that fits this
10:23 prophecy, and that is the Roman Catholic Church.
10:26 Now that doesn't mean that we're criticizing
10:29 Roman Catholics. There are some very pious Roman Catholics
10:33 in the Catholic church, very fine people.
10:34 But we're talking about a religious system.
10:37 And this particular system is the only one that fits the
10:41 prophecy. In the first place of course that we're here in Rome,
10:45 and this was right among these 10 kingdoms. And it is true that
10:50 the Roman Catholic church was responsible for plucking up
10:54 3 of these kingdoms. There were the Vandals. There were the
10:58 Ostrogoths and the Alemanni, all of whom were destroyed
11:02 as the result of papal influence. Now it also says
11:06 here, in verse 25, the saints shall be given into his hand
11:11 for a time and times and half a time. In other words,
11:13 it was to be a persecuting power. It was to be responsible
11:18 for the destruction of many of God's people.
11:20 And I regret to say that the Roman Catholic church
11:24 has certainly fulfilled this specification.
11:27 I'm standing in front of the church of St. Bartholomew's
11:31 in London. And on the front of the church there is an
11:35 inscription that refers to the noble army of martyrs
11:39 who perished in this place. You see, this church is in
11:42 Smithfield Mackas and over there under that archway,
11:46 is where hundreds of martyrs were burned at the stake
11:49 during the 16th century A.D. because of their faith in the
11:53 bible and because of their determination to follow
11:56 the bible even though it was in opposition to Rome.
12:00 We are in Oxford in England. And I am standing in front of
12:05 what is know as the martyr memorial. I'd like to read
12:08 to you the inscription that is on this memorial.
12:10 It says, To the glory of God and in grateful commemoration
12:14 of his servants, Cramer, Ridley, and Latimer, prelates of
12:18 the church of England who near this spot yielded their bodies
12:22 to be burned, bearing witness to the sacred truths which
12:26 they had affirmed and maintained against the errors of the church
12:30 of Rome. Now the actual spot is just around the corner,
12:33 and it's marked by a novel cross in the road where they were
12:37 burned at the stake, as were many other martyrs in this
12:41 city. They were godly men. And they believed in the bible.
12:45 But bloody Mary came to the throne and under her
12:50 many perished for their faith. This burning was a terrible
12:54 thing. You know sometimes they burned them slowly, deliberately
12:59 so that they would suffer longer. And if you want a
13:03 bad night's sleep, just read Fox's book of Martyrs where
13:07 some of these public burnings were described.
13:09 Now we are up on the roof of St. Peters and along the front
13:17 of the veranda, 13 statues. In the center of the statue
13:21 of Christ on his right hand is the statue of St. Peter,
13:25 who, it is claimed, was the first pope.
13:28 Now concerning the head of the papal church, who is the pope of
13:33 Rome, the bible says in Daniel 7:25, he shall speak great words
13:38 against the Most High. Now some people say, Yea, but look,
13:42 this is a Christian church and certainly that don't speak
13:45 against God. But I have in my hand here, a little book I
13:49 purchased in a Roman Catholic book shop. And it is about
13:53 priests. Its called A Priest. And it says here,
13:57 First then there is the priest's power over Christ's real body
14:00 the blessed Eucharist. A power which surpasses all others
14:04 ever given to men or angels. Clad in his priestly garments,
14:08 he stands, morning after morning at the altar of sacrifice
14:11 and summons the second person of the all holy trinity
14:16 from heaven and to his priest summons, Jesus Christ gives
14:20 his entire and instant obedience.
14:23 O, Priest, exclaims Saint Augustine, He who created
14:27 you gives you power to create himself. Makes us wonder
14:32 who creates who, doesn't it? Now how many Christ's do you
14:36 think there are? Here is a also on the same sort, that's called
14:40 Other Christ's. And it is about the Roman Catholic priesthood.
14:44 It says, Thus the priests as is said with good reason
14:48 is indeed another Christ. For in some way he is himself a
14:53 continuation of Christ. The Omnipotent greatness of
14:56 of the human priest stands forth in all its splendor; for he has
15:00 power over the very body of Jesus Christ makes it present
15:04 on our altars. In the ordination of a priest, the God seems to
15:09 part with His omnipotence. Christ seems to hand over the
15:13 merits of his life and passion and the Holy Ghost gives the
15:16 key to the immense treasure of spiritual life to a mere man.
15:20 Interesting statements, aren't they?
15:37 Behind me is an obelisk of Ramses the great of Egypt
15:41 and beyond that is what is known as the Pantheon.
15:44 Theos is the Greek word for God and Pan means many, and so you
15:48 got a place of many Gods. And its a great domelike structure,
15:51 very beautifully made, actually, from the very early
15:53 ages, in which were installed many pagan gods.
15:57 Now this very well illustrates how paganism came into the
16:01 Christian church; because this was converted into a Christian
16:06 church and instead of the pagan gods, there were now
16:09 installed images or statues of various saints,
16:13 the virgin Mary and so forth. And it was used as a church.
16:16 Well now, this illustrates how sun worship came into the church
16:20 too; because this was in particular a place of sun
16:23 worship. And so sun worship was adopted into the Christian
16:27 church. And, of course, with sun worship. A form of day was
16:33 observed, in other words, Sunday or the day of the sun.
16:35 Constantine the great was the first one who passed such a law
16:38 that Sunday should be observed. But later on in the council of
16:42 Laodicea in 331, the Christian council adopted Sunday as the
16:47 day of worship. Its interesting to notice what
16:50 Kennan's catechism has to say about this.
16:56 One day I went into Pelegrinos, you know the Roman Catholic
16:59 book shop. And I purchased this little book called the Convert's
17:04 Catechism of Catholic doctrine. And I was very interested in
17:09 what is says here on page 50. Which is the Sabbath Day?
17:13 Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath Day. Question: Why do we observe
17:19 Sunday instead of Saturday? Answer: We observe Sunday
17:23 instead of Saturday because the Catholic church in the council
17:26 of Laodicea, A.D. 336, transferred the solemnity
17:31 from Saturday to Sunday. Rather interesting, isn't it?
17:34 You know that prophecy we were talking about in Daniel, chapter
17:40 7, says, concerning the antichrist, in verse 25,
17:45 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall
17:49 persecute the saints of the Most High and shall intend to
17:53 change times and law. Now what law is he talking about?
17:58 Obviously its talking about the law of God and speaking about a
18:00 time element in that law. And of course that is referring to
18:04 the Sabbath Day. So the prophecy said that the papacy would try
18:10 to change the law of God, particularly the time element
18:12 of it. And we ask Rome, Did you do it? And the Catholic church
18:17 says, Sure. Yea, we did it. In the council of Laodicea.
18:21 A.D. 336. Now of course there are some people who feel that
18:28 Christ must have changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.
18:31 But remember that sermon on the mount that he preached?
18:35 In Matthew 5 and in verse 17, Jesus says, Do not think that I
18:41 come to destroy the law or the prophets. I did not come to
18:44 destroy but to fulfill. That is he kept God's law, his father's
18:48 law. For assuredly I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away,
18:52 one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all
18:57 is fulfilled. Now what did Jesus mean by a jot or a tittle?
19:03 Let me just explain something about the Hebrew alphabet.
19:08 It goes from right to left, you know, and its written something
19:12 like this. This is Aleph, Beth, and then Gimmal, and Daleth,
19:17 and Hey, yad, zayin, Hhet, Tet, yad and so forth,
19:21 you see. Now I want you to notice something about this
19:23 alphabet so as I can explain it to you. We come here to Hhet
19:28 yad. Now you notice that this letter is the smallest letter of
19:33 the Hebrew alphabet. Het is a yad or a jot.
19:38 What is meant by a tittle? There are some Hebrew letters,
19:43 for instance, here is the letter Hey which is very similar to
19:46 this, except for this little projection on the end there.
19:50 and that is a tittle. Another letter, for instance
19:54 Here you've got g or gimal, and here's the letter n.
19:58 Again, you'll notice there's not much difference
20:00 only this little projection here. Now Jesus said,
20:04 Not one yan, this smallest letter in the Hebrew alphabet
20:08 or a tittle, just something that's just makes the difference
20:11 between one letter and another is going to pass away from
20:14 this law. Now, I'll show you something very significant.
20:17 Let's have a look at the ten commandments in particular
20:23 the fourth commandment where it says the seventh day is the
20:27 Sabbath of the Lord thy God. Let me write on the blackboard
20:31 for you, the Hebrew word that is used here for seventh.
20:36 And I want you to notice something here.
20:40 It's hashavikey and it has here two Yans in the word
20:48 seventh. You'll also notice there is a tittle.
20:52 Jesus did not change the 7th to the 1st - a totally different
20:58 word,? He said not even a yad or a tittle is going to
21:04 pass from this law. So certainly Jesus Christ
21:07 did not change the Sabbath from the 7th day to the 1st day,
21:12 from Saturday to Sunday. So we notice what the disciples or the
21:18 apostles have to say in Hebrews chapter 4, and in verse 9.
21:24 The great apostle Paul said, There remains therefore a rest
21:28 for the people of God. The word that is used there for rest,
21:32 literally means a Sabbath keeping - a keeping of Sabbath.
21:34 Paul said, There remains, it hasn't gone.
21:37 It hasn't been changed, it remains a keeping of Sabbath
21:40 remains as far as the new testament writers
21:44 are concerned. Well, now you might say, does it really matter
21:49 What does it matter whether its the 7th day or the 1st day?
21:52 Well, if you read the bible carefully, I think you will
21:56 notice that it does really matter; because here
22:00 for instance in the book of Romans, chapter 6 and in
22:03 verse 16, it says, Do you not know that to whom you present
22:08 yourselves slaves to obey, your are that one's slaves
22:12 whom you obey, whether its sin to death or of obedience
22:17 to righteousness. You see its the question of obedience.
22:19 If God says, and this law was spoken through Jesus Christ
22:24 that the 7th day is the Sabbath, and the Catholic church says,
22:29 the 1st day is the Sabbath, its a matter of obedience.
22:32 Are you going to obey the bible or are you going to do what
22:36 the Catholic church says should be done?
22:38 Well, I think you would say that we should follow the bible.
22:41 Shouldn't we? I also want you to notice what Jesus said,
22:45 in John, chapter 14, and in verse 15. He says, If you love
22:51 me keep my commandments. It is also the question of love.
22:56 See, its not just a matter of legal obedience. Its a case of
23:00 who do you love. And if the Lord Jesus Christ died for us on
23:04 the cross, and given his life for our sins, surely that should
23:09 provoke our love. And he says, If you love me, keep my
23:13 commandments. In our next program,
23:16 we'll be exploring the remarkable catacombs
23:19 of Bethsurin in Israel, Where the members of the Sanhedrin
23:23 were buried in the 2nd century A.D. And David will be talking
23:28 about some very strange burial places when he explains what
23:32 happens when we die.


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