Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Lemuel Vega (Host), Anthony Rice, Michael Jordan, Sheriff Marty Talbert, Tyrone Nelson
Series Code: FIN
Program Code: FIN000011
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00:01 On today's program, we travel
00:02 to the Reception Diagnostic Center. 00:06 This is a very unique facility. 00:07 If we were to characterize it, I suspect we would call it 00:10 a bit of a holding tank. 00:12 Men and boys who have been sentenced 00:14 are sent here for diagnosis and then a determination 00:18 is made what long-term facility they will be sent to. 00:23 They are evaluated by age, educational needs, 00:28 any number of parameters determine 00:31 what facility they will go to. 00:32 I'm told that some 22,000 men per year 00:37 move through the Reception Diagnostic Center. 00:40 So it's a transient place. 00:41 People don't stay very, very long. 00:43 Again, there is no contact with the outside. 00:45 No calls, no visits, no phone calls, no entertainment. 00:49 Perhaps, it's the perfect situation for a person 00:53 to get a hold of Jesus Christ or do I say for Jesus Christ 00:58 to get a hold of them because they are shut off 01:00 from all of those things, which occupy our time 01:03 and occupy our minds. 01:04 They get a chance to think about Jesus and a Bible 01:07 in this facility goes a long, long way. 01:11 Many men have had a chance to reflect 01:13 on their relationship with God, their relationship 01:17 with life and begin to make changes 01:20 in the devotion of Jesus Christ. 01:22 You're gonna hear some very powerful stories 01:23 today from the Reception Diagnostic Center. 01:47 There is a movie that is not really Biblically accurate 01:52 but it has a section where Jesus allegedly visits 01:56 John the Baptist in prison. 01:59 And before He goes in prison, one of the guards asks Christ 02:03 do you intend to free John from his cell? 02:07 And Jesus said no, I intend to free him in his cell. 02:13 This program Free Indeed is about being free in Jesus. 02:18 I'm standing here with my buddy Lem Vega. 02:20 He tells me that he was in a cell 02:22 just like this at the Regional Diagnostic Center, 02:26 that depression took hold of him 02:27 and he tried to take his life. 02:29 This is the stark reality 02:31 of what goes on in a place like this. 02:34 It's a bar, it's a cot. 02:37 It's a public toilet where you don't have privacy. 02:41 It's the reality that your life will never be the same. 02:45 And yet even in this small cramped quarter, 02:50 we can be free in Jesus. 02:53 And that's what this is all about. 02:54 We have come to visit those who are trapped in this place, 03:00 but there are so many others who are trapped 03:02 in all kinds of things that hold them 03:04 just as securely bound as these bars 03:07 that we're looking at. 03:09 And so Free Indeed makes the statement whether you're free, 03:14 but trapped in drugs or any other suicidal problem 03:18 or whether you're incarcerated and trapped behind bars, 03:22 if Christ shall make you free, you can be free indeed. 03:33 We are privileged and blessed 03:35 to have a renowned name in the house. 03:38 We are all equal, 03:39 but we have Michael Jordan with us tonight. Amen. 03:41 Thank you, thank you, Michael, 03:42 for being willing to share your testimony. 03:44 Michael, you have a message of hope 03:46 that you would like to share with the world. 03:49 You know, you've been side-ditched for a moment 03:51 because of incarceration. 03:53 But what would that message be to the whole wide world 03:56 that there is hope in this time in which we live? 03:58 Without God, without God we're nothing. 04:00 We came being nothing. 04:01 We'd never to amount to 04:03 anything without God being in our life. 04:05 I had--I had to know that for myself. 04:06 I learned that as a baby boy without God, 04:10 we're not gonna be nothing. 04:11 I mean, He is--He is our everything. 04:12 He's gonna be at everything. 04:14 He's the first and last and everything. 04:16 But somehow as you learned that as a little child 04:19 somehow that wasn't the focal point of your life. 04:22 That's right. How did you get refocused? 04:25 Well, it took, it took death of my mother, 04:26 it took death of my mother. 04:27 My mother just passed away in November 04:29 and I had to focus back, think back 04:31 to where I came from, you know? 04:33 So--so the Bible says "Train up a child 04:35 in the way he should go, and he should not depart from it. 04:37 That's right, you know, brother, 04:38 my mother languished with cancer 04:41 and I hate to tell you this, but I didn't even drive 04:44 to Chicago three or four hour journey to see my mother 04:46 before she passed with cancer. 04:48 I was too involved with the drugs. 04:50 You know, on this journey have you, 04:52 have you been able to share that you can overcome 04:55 some of these hurdles? 04:56 Oh, yes, oh, yes. I'll testify to everybody I can that, 04:59 that the God is real, you know, they have to trust 05:01 in the Lord with all you heart and lean 05:03 not to your own understanding 05:04 'cause your own understanding get you nowhere. 05:06 By leaning to Him, then you're telling me 05:08 that He empowers you, at least He has in my life, 05:11 to overcome temptations. 05:12 That's right, that's right. 05:13 To overcome the world. 05:15 That's right. In the world, the Bible says, 05:16 you shall have tribulation; but be of good cheer, 05:19 because He says-- He's here. 05:21 I have overcome the world, amen. 05:22 That's right. In closing, what would you share 05:24 with those people that are struggling 05:26 to find their identity in the world today? 05:28 Look to the hills, will cometh your help, 05:29 your help come from God. 05:31 Brother, thank you so very, very much 05:33 and God bless you. God bless. 05:39 Today I'm blessed to have Tyron with us. 05:41 Tyron is a good friend of mine and he received 05:43 one of these gift packages, one of these brown paper 05:46 sacks from the county jail. 05:48 And we want to hear just now of the value 05:50 and meaning that it means to someone incarcerated 05:53 that they have not been forgotten. 05:55 You know, well to actually put it in words 05:58 is very difficult because it's a lot of gratitude 06:03 but then again it's a lot of just joy that overtakes 06:07 you when you think about the food you know, 06:09 you come--some of these guys come from families 06:12 that's been broken up you know, and families 06:16 that's abusive and families 06:19 that you just didn't actually burn bridges with, you know? 06:21 And they are not there anymore. 06:23 And when these come in and along with the books 06:27 you get the meat and actually get this, 06:30 you know, the sweets. 06:31 But, Tyron, share with me now a moment of time 06:33 the spiritual blessing that's left behind. 06:36 Well, most of the guys, most they get down 06:38 when they actually get down with their food 06:40 and they got to dig in down in the bag 06:42 and they actually see these books that's the meat, 06:45 and actually send off to some of these Bible study classes. 06:48 And they start getting involved 06:50 with these Bible study classes 06:52 and they actually get to know the Lord. 06:54 Praise the Lord. What would you share to our sponsors 06:56 in appreciation that made this possible because it's not us? 06:59 I would say thank you from the bottom 07:02 and from the top of my heart 07:04 and I would say to other organizations out there, 07:06 each one, teach more. 07:09 I even go as far as saying, each one, 07:12 teach one, reach one. 07:13 I challenge you to rise to the occasion 07:16 of what this organization or these organizations are doing. 07:19 This is a great thing. 07:20 And I am your neighbor and you are mine so with that-- 07:24 If you would like to be involved in any aspect 07:26 of the Christmas Behind Bars gift distribution, 07:29 you can contact this at christmasbehindbars.org 07:33 or on Facebook facebook.com /chrismasbehindbars. 07:38 We thank you for being willing to give for being willing 07:41 to serve and I believe that you'll see many people 07:44 in the Kingdom of Heaven because you were willing 07:46 to give to your neighbor. 07:51 Anthony, is this your first time in prison? 07:54 Second time, sir. 07:55 Second time in prison. 07:56 How much time do you are you planning 07:58 on spending in prison? 08:00 18 months, sir. 08:01 18 months. So soon you'll be back out to the street. 08:04 18 months is not long. 08:05 We were just at the women's prison yesterday 08:07 and we talked to women that's 26 years, 08:10 14 years, 18 years and it just breaks my heart 08:13 because most of them it was their first time in prison. 08:15 Can you tell me 08:17 what and how that you will not return to prison? 08:22 Well-- What will keep you from returning to prison? 08:25 It's just taking heed to the word of God, 08:26 sir, just being obedient to the word of Jesus Christ, 08:30 just you know, just let Jesus Christ be Lord 08:33 and Savior of my life. 08:34 Not my will but His will be done in my life, sir. 08:37 How did that change, uh, was it in the county jail 08:40 or where did this change from whatever reason 08:42 that you're here, where did that change 08:44 to where now that's your focus? 08:46 Well, it happened at the county jail 08:48 because when you separate, you know, separated me 08:50 from my wife and my children, you know, I had to forget 08:54 about self and started you know, focusing 08:56 on you know, I mean everything else to start focus 08:59 on you know, Jesus Christ you know, 'cause I needed a change 09:01 in my life right then and there immediately. 09:03 Had you had a relationship with Jesus 09:05 prior to this time of incarceration? 09:07 Yes, sir. I was one side in and one side out 09:09 going half and half, you don't straddle 09:11 an offense, sir. 09:12 And there is no such a thing, is it? 09:14 No, sir. Either we're gaining and growing 09:16 in the knowledge in the joy of the God 09:18 to be free indeed or we're regressing, amen? Yes, sir. 09:23 What, what Bible scripture would you like to share 09:25 that's been a real meaningful passage 09:28 for you on this journey to recommit 09:30 and dedicate your life to Jesus? 09:32 One of the scriptures that one of my favorite 09:34 is Matthew 6:33 "Seek ye first the kingdom of God, 09:38 and his righteousness; and all these things 09:40 shall be added unto you." 09:42 What message, what message, Anthony, 09:44 would you be able to look out there into the world 09:47 and share with them 09:49 because the world is doing wrong things. 09:51 I mean, the world is running rampant with violence, 09:54 and drugs, and sex, and unmanageability. 09:56 But somehow they think as long as they got their next fix 09:58 or their next paycheck, they're okay. 10:00 What would you share with those people that think 10:02 they're okay or maybe is on the fence 10:04 to make a decision for or against Jesus? 10:06 Well, first I would just say let go and let God 10:10 and just hold on you know, 'cause Jesus 10:12 is on the way whatever situation 10:13 that's going on in your life, you just continue, 10:15 just trust in the Lord 'cause He'll bring you out of it. 10:17 Just, just hold on 'cause He'll be with you right 10:20 where you at but you just have to trust in Him 10:22 and lean not to thy own understanding 10:23 but in all thy ways acknowledge Him. 10:25 And He shall direct your path. 10:27 And listen to your wives and mothers and loved ones 10:29 those that are there and tell them 10:30 you turned from those things and listen to your pastors. 10:33 You know, you have to listen and take heed 10:35 and then you take heed and God 10:36 will meet you the rest of the way. 10:38 In closing, let me, let me ask you something for those, 10:41 for those children that are out there in the world 10:43 because daddy is locked up, for those wives 10:46 that are out there wondering where the next loaf of bread's 10:48 gonna come from. 10:49 What would you share with them to hold on 10:51 and that, that children do not give up? 10:55 Just remember, just pray for dads and your loved ones 10:58 that are away right now and just hold on and just trust 11:01 on the Lord and just continue praying and don't give up, 11:04 just, just have faith in the Lord, 11:06 you know, just, just hold on, you know, daddy will be home 11:09 soon and just don't give up, just continue, 11:11 just keep praying and, and don't give up. 11:14 Amen. Thank you, brother, so very, very much 11:16 and God bless you. 11:20 And gentlemen, you have an active role 11:22 in the transforming power of God in your children's life 11:25 'cause Beavis and Butthead and the Simpsons 11:26 aren't gonna encourage your children to be Free Indeed. 11:30 You have an active role to pickup that word of God 11:32 and send them snippets of the vision 11:34 that you see of what Christ has done for us 11:37 with your children and the Holy Spirit 11:39 will go before those letters 11:41 as those children open them. C.A.., 11:44 God bless you and we love you. 11:54 I'm a big word guy. 11:55 I like, I like words and I find some 11:59 very important words in the Bible. 12:01 Now I'm gonna give you kind of a little homework assignment, 12:03 you've got your Bibles. 12:06 This is kind of tough book to find. 12:08 It's in the New Testament. It's called Ephesians. 12:10 Not that long called Ephesians. 12:14 So while you're trying to find it, I'll talk to you. 12:17 Is that all right? 12:18 Because I want you to find Ephesians Chapter 2. 12:20 It's not deep into through the Gospel, 12:24 Ephesians Chapter 2. 12:26 The Bible says "For we are His workmanship, 12:30 we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus 12:35 for good works, which God prepared beforehand 12:42 that we should walk in them." 12:44 We are God's workmanship. 12:48 When God got down and began to put stuff together, 12:54 you're it and God made you for good works. 12:59 I wanna give you three words, the first is purpose. 13:04 What did I say? Purpose. 13:06 Purpose, the second is focus-- 13:10 Focus. Focus and the third is function. 13:13 So we got purpose, focus, and function. 13:20 Now purpose is the reason that something was created. 13:26 Purpose is why it exists. 13:30 Focus is what keeps you on your purpose, Amen. 13:37 And function is what you use it for, 13:41 be it for its purpose or for some other reason. 13:47 But purpose is why you exist. 13:50 Function or rather focus keeps you on your purpose 13:55 and function is what you use it for. 13:57 I'm gonna tell you a story and I need to preface 14:00 this by saying it's a true story, 14:02 although it may sound like fiction, 14:04 every word of it is true. 14:06 I've used it a lot. 14:07 I just came back from Tulsa, Oklahoma 14:10 and I used it there because it means so much to me. 14:15 It's a powerful story. 14:17 Comes from the country of Brazil and evidently 14:21 on a Sunday evening, a little town 14:24 by the Atlantic Ocean in Brazil, 14:27 a cabdriver comes across the body of a young man 14:31 who's been a victim of a hit and run driver 14:33 about 17 years of age. 14:35 He's still alive, but he's in bad shape. 14:38 Somebody hit this child, left him there 14:42 and so this Christian cabdriver 14:47 sees this boy bleeding, puts him in a cab and hurries off 14:52 to the closest place where he can find some help. 14:55 Now where he takes him is not a full hospital. 14:58 It's a little clinic and evidently in Brazil 15:00 they have a lot of these little clinics around. 15:03 You know to take care of the, the poor classes of people. 15:05 This little clinic. Not a big hospital just a little clinic. 15:08 Sunday evening not much going on, doctor, 15:12 a nurse and an orderly, you know, somebody to lift 15:15 patients and stuff. 15:17 And so the cabdriver comes in and he's all excited. 15:19 He said, hey, man, you got to help, you got to help. 15:21 I got this, I got this young man, he's bleeding in the back 15:23 of my cab and you got to help, you got to help, 15:25 you got to do something right now. 15:26 And the doctor says well, wait a minute just, 15:28 just wait a minute not so fast. 15:31 Does the boy have insurance? 15:34 And the cabdriver says, 15:35 well, I don't know if he has insurance. 15:37 I mean, he's bleeding. 15:38 I didn't go through his pockets. 15:39 I don't know if he has insurance, 15:40 I don't think he has anything on him. 15:42 I just found him on the road. 15:43 But you got to help, you got to help and the doctor 15:45 says well, well, wait just a second. 15:48 He says do you have any money? 15:51 And the taxi driver says well, its Sunday evening. 15:54 Things are kind of slow I gotta a couple of bucks, 15:56 but I don't have any real money. 15:58 But we got to do something now and the doctor says okay, 16:01 just not, not so fast, not so fast. 16:03 He says because if, if,-- 16:09 if he doesn't have insurance 16:12 and you don't have any money, 16:15 I don't know if there's much I can do. 16:20 And the cabdriver says, listen you don't understand 16:27 if, if we don't do something, this boy is going to die. 16:34 And the doctor says, well, you don't understand my position. 16:39 I don't make the rules, I just work here. 16:43 And the rules say 16:46 that if they don't have insurance 16:51 and no money we can't give treatment for free. 16:57 Can't do it. We wouldn't be in business along 17:00 if we just started treating people and didn't get money. 17:05 So I don't know if there is anything 17:06 I can do and so the cabdriver says yeah, 17:09 but, but you are a doctor, you got to do something. 17:14 Okay, here's what you do. 17:16 Tell me what to do and I'll bandage him up. 17:22 So just tell me and the doctor says can't do it, 17:26 can't do it because if I tell you what to do 17:32 and you do something wrong, 17:35 they're not gonna come after you 17:38 'cause you don't have a license. 17:40 They're gonna come after me. 17:42 So I can't, I can't do anything and I can't tell you 17:49 what to do and so they go back and forth, 17:52 back and forth, back and forth and the taxi driver 17:54 says all right okay, will you just come and look at him, 18:02 just come and see him and maybe you can tell me 18:05 if I can get him to a hospital or something, 18:07 just come and look at him and the doctor says can't do it. 18:12 He says the law says I can't treat him 18:15 and I can't tell you what to do. 18:19 So looking at him would be a waste of time. 18:22 What you need to do is get him to a hospital 18:25 where somebody can help. 18:27 So now this has gone on for about 40 minutes. 18:30 The child's in the back of the cab. 18:33 And so the taxi driver realizes 18:36 that he's not gonna have any success. 18:40 This little serve and volley is not going fly. 18:43 So he jumps in his cab and takes this boy 18:46 all the way across town to one of those big public hospitals 18:49 that takes indigent patients who don't have any money. 18:51 They'll take anybody. 18:53 But the problem is they wasted 45 minutes 18:59 and the roads are bad and so by the time 19:01 the young man gets there, he is DOA. 19:07 Now how do you tell a mother that her son was hit 19:12 by somebody who left him to die and in medical profession 19:18 pretty much guaranteed that he's gonna pass. 19:22 Well, that's the story the police had to tell this mom 19:27 when it took the story home. 19:29 Mother's there, little sister, father wasn't there. 19:33 Now later on that night, the father comes home 19:35 and it just so happens by coincidence 19:37 that he is a doctor, 19:38 but he doesn't work at a little clinic. 19:40 He works at a big private hospital. 19:42 Kisses his wife, hugs his daughter 19:43 next question where is our son. 19:47 And as the wife tells the story, a startling set 19:50 of coincidences begin to unfold because even though 19:53 he worked at a private hospital every now and again, 19:55 he did some public work at a little clinic. 19:59 And as she tells the story, the doctor says, you know, 20:01 I remember a cabdriver did run into the clinic tonight. 20:07 And as she tells the story, he is forced to the conclusion 20:11 that the young man that he refused to treat, 20:15 the young man he refused even to see, was his own child. 20:22 I told you true story, not made up, true story. 20:26 Now the story would be sad if that was the end, 20:28 but the last paragraph said this that the doctor 20:30 had seized the practice of medicine 20:33 and has been confined to an asylum suffering 20:36 from depression and irreconcilable guilt. 20:42 So the question I ask you gentlemen, 20:43 before I have to sit down is what went wrong? 20:46 What went wrong? 20:49 Somebody lost focus. 20:54 They forgot about their purpose. 20:56 The purpose of the medical profession 20:59 is to heal, is to save lives. 21:03 And it is your focus 21:04 that keeps you on your purpose, amen. Amen. 21:09 When you lose focus, you forget about your purpose. 21:14 And the Bible says you, me, we were created 21:18 by God for good works. 21:21 That's what the text says. 21:22 That's your purpose. 21:25 God made you to do good. 21:28 That's your purpose. 21:30 That's why you exist. 21:33 Focus will keep you on your purpose 21:37 so when you are tempted to make that left turn 21:41 you know what I mean? 21:43 You got to stay focused 21:45 because focus will keep you on your purpose. 21:50 When you want to--when you feel like you need 21:53 to retaliate, 21:58 when you want to retaliate, 22:02 you got to remember your purpose. 22:05 You got to stay focused because focus 22:10 will keep you on your purpose and the Bible 22:13 told you what your purpose is, God created you 22:16 for good works that you should glorify Him. 22:21 Amen. Stay focused on your purpose. 22:27 I would like some honesty here tonight. 22:31 Honesty because we have 38 Bibles and I got 50 people 22:38 here and I'm sorry I ain't got like enough. 22:40 If you got a Bible two weeks ago 22:42 even if it's a New Testament please don't raise your hand. 22:48 We'll try to bring Bibles when we come back 22:51 because another brother would value that New Testament 22:54 but we can't get it traded around here tonight. 22:58 Is there anybody here that would like a Bible 23:03 but don't have one? 23:10 We're trying to get more Bibles, brothers. 23:13 Hold--keep your hands up, keep your hands up. 23:15 If you don't have one, you're being honest with me, please. 23:20 Little children brought in dollars, 23:23 one girl gave a $100, a young girl 23:27 that these Bibles could be purchased. 23:30 So if you don't have one, please pray 23:33 that we can get more Bibles 23:35 because I see this is a prime opportunity 23:37 that my partners who leave this place 23:39 could take the word of God with them. 23:42 So, brothers, please keep us in your prayers. C.A., 23:45 I'm gonna ask you if you would come up 23:46 and close this with prayer. 23:50 I hope you'll keep this broadcasting network 23:52 in your prayers and this program 23:54 that you will meet thousands of people. 23:56 Keep your hands up if you don't have one. 23:59 That you will meet thousands of people literally hundreds 24:01 hundreds of thousands of people 24:02 in the Kingdom of Heaven 24:03 'cause you're willing to come here tonight 24:05 and share of your time and of your testimonies. 24:10 Gentlemen, will you stand with me? Okay. 24:14 There's one here. 24:18 Father God, we just thank you and praise 24:20 you for this opportunity to minister the love of Christ 24:24 to our brothers and sisters. 24:26 We think about those who are in this place 24:29 and who the world says are incarcerated 24:33 but we know that in Christ they can be free. 24:37 For freedom is not just about where we are. 24:42 It's about where our heart is and where our mind 24:44 is and where our spirit is. 24:47 And we surrender now our spirits 24:51 to you because you said whom the son shall make free, 24:57 he shall be free indeed. 25:00 And we ask you to look after our families and our friends 25:04 and those who may not be in a facility, 25:09 but who in their own spirits are in shackles and in prison 25:16 walking around free but really in prison. 25:22 Free them from whatever binds them 25:25 and let them be free in Jesus also. 25:29 Thank you Lord for this time together. 25:32 Thank you for the power of your word. 25:34 Thank you for the power of your spirit. 25:38 Thank you for Jesus who died for our sins. 25:42 We live now in Him and thank you 25:45 in Jesus name, amen and amen. 25:50 When I got to RDC, it was such a hard time for me, 25:53 I mean, I didn't have any money 25:55 and I thought my wife was just in shambles. 25:57 I was there for three days and I was so hungry. 26:00 I woke up in the middle of the afternoon 26:02 one time in July and I heard, you know, banging on my door 26:05 and there was these three gentlemen standing outside 26:07 standing outside of the door 26:08 and they handed me this bag and a Bible. 26:11 And inside of the bag from Christmas Behind Bars 26:13 it was just full of food and full of hygiene 26:16 and they, and they actually gave me a study Bible as well. 26:19 And let me just tell you I didn't have any literature 26:21 whatsoever and that was the best gift they could possibly 26:24 have ever given at that time. 26:26 I mean, I didn't have anybody, no family, 26:28 nobody writing to me, 26:30 nobody, you know, looking out for me 26:31 and it just--it touched my heart. 26:33 I was able to study the word of God, 26:35 I mean, at night time you get so hungry at RDC 26:38 because you just don't have that much food. 26:40 And I tell you what just the gifts that were given to me 26:43 it touched my heart. 26:44 I felt Jesus Christ in a lonely, lonely place 26:48 and I tell you I just--my heart goes out 26:50 to Christmas Behind Bars and I'm just so grateful 26:53 for what they have done for me. 26:56 You've had five years' experience 26:58 with the receiving end, the distribution end. 27:01 This is your first look at the--the sort of business end, 27:04 the putting together end, 27:06 what do you think about what you see going on here today? 27:07 Yeah, it's an amazing operation. 27:09 I tell you, you guys have it down 27:11 to a science or a fine art. 27:13 When Mr. Vega invited me here today as I was coming down 27:16 State Road 19, I saw a huge number of cars 27:18 here at the warehouse and I thought well, 27:20 this must be a bigger operation than I thought it was. 27:23 Then when I walked in through the door, 27:24 it's just like assembly lines. 27:26 Everybody has a job to do. 27:27 Everybody has a responsibility. 27:29 I've been watching it. 27:31 I'm kind of amazed at how smooth it's going. 27:33 Everybody takes their responsibility seriously 27:37 and to think that you're going to get 15,000 bags 27:40 packed in just a few hours is incredible. 27:43 And, I guess, I never really thought much about the, 27:45 the folks behind the scenes, the volunteers that it takes 27:48 to make this program work. 27:50 I've seen what happens at the distribution point, 27:52 but now I recognize the tremendous effort 27:58 and the huge number of volunteers 28:00 it takes to make this ministry a success. 28:03 And I know that not all these folks would probably 28:06 have the opportunity to visit a jail or a prison 28:09 when these bags are distributed, 28:11 but I hope that they can fully recognize in their hearts 28:14 what, what good their efforts will confers. |
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