Participants: Ashraf Maher, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000061
00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh, 00:50 and today I'm delighted to be talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher 00:53 Did I say that right? Exactly! 00:55 It's a very hard name, but you said it right. 00:58 Not only are you a doctor, you're a doctor-doctor... 01:01 Doctor-doctor-doctor! Is that a good way to put it? 01:04 Well I collect them just for hobbies! 01:08 That's right, now explain that to us... 01:10 You, first of all, had some schooling in... 01:13 ...In Egypt It's where I was born. 01:16 And what were you involved in? What kind of study there? 01:18 I graduated from Cairo University Medical School 01:22 And then after this, I took a, just as a hobby, 01:26 a PhD in the origin of religion. Okay! 01:29 And then we've been doing some research about 01:32 the ancient Egyptian mummies. 01:35 ...All the big names in history. 01:38 So you come from a family then, in Egypt... 01:40 Yes, I have a family in Egypt, and my family was more political 01:46 than I wish they'd been... 01:50 and then when Nasser took over, in the old days, 01:53 a lot of us had... to say it mildly, to skip town. Okay 01:59 Tell me a little bit about the... 02:01 And then also, you're a dentist is that right? Yes 02:03 So you're a doctor of medicine, and you're a dentist, 02:07 and then you're also a doctor in religion 02:10 or philosophy in religion. Yes 02:12 I'm a little nervous. No you don't have to... 02:15 But when I was in Egypt, we were coordinating with the 02:20 University of Michigan in research about x-raying 02:23 the ancient Egyptian mummies. Oh, okay... 02:26 We were doing research and at this time the computer 02:28 was very primitive; we used a punch card. 02:31 It's not like now, digital work and we took x-rays of 02:36 the mummies, and also a lot of ancient Egyptian tombs 02:42 to get the skeleton there and... 02:43 And what were you looking for in the mummies? 02:45 We tried to make a correlation... 02:47 Did the angulation of the skull 02:49 change through several thousand years. 02:52 So that was trying to prove or disprove evolution or... 02:55 No, it was not really evolution. 02:58 We just wanted to know if, during years happening, 03:02 there was an increase in the size of the brain, 03:05 or a decrease in the size of the jaw growing... 03:08 And then when I came to the university... What did you find? 03:12 Well, it wasn't conclusive. 03:15 So you found out that their brains weren't 03:18 getting bigger or smaller. 03:19 No, no, no... there was nothing. 03:21 And then you came to the University of Michigan 03:23 and I worked there, and the research was done 03:27 in the dental school. 03:28 And I can get a research assistant, and take a degree 03:32 in 2-1/2 years, and I would graduate fast, 03:36 and I jumped in and became a dentist to support my habit! 03:43 Which is a love of study I take it... 03:45 A love of... you know the system of belief 03:49 It usually interests me, but it was really an interest in life. 03:55 So they probably were very interested in you because 03:57 you knew Egyptian, and you also... 04:00 did you know how to read hieroglyphics? Yes 04:03 You need to understand that the way the hieroglyphic is written 04:08 in the old days like when you go to a temple, 04:10 a lot of people will watch or be able to read it. 04:15 They don't realize that it was written by different thoughts 04:19 or a different way of thinking. 04:21 For example, my visit with you here today, 04:24 if it needed to be recorded in the temple, 04:27 they will see, during the Clinton Administration, 04:32 and also the governor of Illinois, and you go, and you go 04:36 until in the end... whatever happened, you know. 04:40 Sort of in the year of our Lord, blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly 04:43 And then they would position it. Exactly 04:47 Interesting, and they draw it all in pictures. 04:48 Now let me ask you this... Is it from front-to-back? 04:50 I understood that you read this way on a tablet, 04:54 and then that way... 04:56 This is a very, very important part of it. 05:00 They are written in columns. Oh... 05:03 And it could be from left-to- right, up-to-down, and left... 05:06 and that's why it's very, very confusing... 05:09 like there was no system of writing the way 05:13 we have it here from left-to-right. 05:16 Some of the ancient script was written in columns from 05:20 top-to-bottom, or right-to-left or left-to-right. 05:23 Interesting... So when did they figure that out? 05:26 I mean, I might be portraying my ignorance here, 05:29 but was it during the time of Napoleon 05:31 then they really figured it out? Exactly 05:33 When Champollion arrived, 05:35 he was extremely very good in 05:38 religion... I'm sorry, in ancient language. 05:43 He spoke several languages, 05:44 and even able to decipher because of the Rosetta Stone, 05:49 and they found the cartouche with the name of Cleopatra in it 05:53 and he became able to decipher it... 05:54 And from then on, it started happening... 05:57 and very few people really know it very well. 06:00 And one of them is a lady in Kentucky; 06:03 her name is Normandi Ellis, 06:06 and she's the one who translated the Book of the Dead... 06:10 And she was able also to understand 06:12 the spirit of the words... 06:14 Like here especially with every new generation, 06:18 there are a lot of words, like if someone 06:20 tried to translate a high school guy saying, 06:23 "Wow, he's cool!" 06:25 You know, in Japanese, it would be "He's freezing. " 06:28 Okay so, interesting, so then to get back to that part 06:31 where they can really understand what it says... 06:33 Now, you know, one thing that has fascinated me about 06:34 the study of ancient Egyptian history was also some 06:38 studies out of the University of Manchester 06:40 where they were looking at mummies again, 06:42 and they saw the common diseases in Egypt. 06:45 Have you seen anything about that or read about that? 06:46 Oh yes! What were some of the 06:47 common diseases in Egypt? 06:49 The common diseases were... arthritis, of course, 06:51 and you have also TB. 06:55 Was there heart disease? Of course! 06:57 Did they see that in the mummies? 06:58 No, because the mummies, really, you cannot go 07:01 and look at the arteries. Okay 07:03 Now, maybe we would be able to do it, 07:06 but in the old days... because you're not allowed to 07:10 open the mummy... 07:12 You would take x-rays of the mummy. 07:14 We did not really... 07:16 But I can understand that in ancient people, 07:20 like in every place regarding diet, 07:23 because of the hard to find food in ancient time, 07:28 usually heavy, fatty, high meat, was good for the peoples 07:37 idea of being "the rich" or, you know, 07:41 like all his life will say, "Well, on Christmas 07:43 or when the Nile rises, I will have a couple of pigs. " 07:49 Now, you know, it's kind of interesting how you 07:54 learned about 3ABN and different things, 07:56 and I think that's through Dr. Hans Diehl. 07:59 Yes, it was an incredible event in my life. 08:03 Now, Dr. Hans Diehl, I've worked with him a little bit too... 08:06 Those who are watching maybe don't know 08:09 a little bit about that, but it was the CHIP Program 08:11 and he's recently come out with a series of videos 08:15 that really are the fruit of about 12 years of work 08:18 where he takes people through a 30-day program, 08:22 where they're educated, and motivated 08:24 to make changes that can lead to longer life. 08:31 How did you hear about the CHIP Program? 08:33 Well, I would like to tell you a little bit about BEFORE 08:35 I heard about the CHIP Program. Okay 08:36 I was a meat-eater! Okay 08:40 And for me, when I came from the office, 08:43 after a hard day, when I go outside, 08:46 I wanted to eat the biggest piece of meat, 08:48 and anything on the plate other than meat, 08:51 was a waste of space for me! 08:54 So you were not even a meat and potatoes man, 08:56 you were a meat-man. There was eating no potatoes or no salad, 08:59 you know, like the salad when Nancy, my wife, 09:01 would eat salad and stuff like this, I looked at them 09:04 and she was a little bit more health conscious before me. 09:09 I looked at her... Is she from Egypt as well? No 09:13 She is from Kalamazoo, Michigan. 09:15 And she visited the pyramids of Egypt too... we took her once 09:18 But for me, it was a wonderful thing. 09:22 I have a couple of times, NOW when I know what happened, 09:26 I really thank the good Lord that I'm still alive. 09:29 So you LOVED meat! 09:31 You didn't like hummus? You didn't like tabouli? 09:33 No, no, no, no, no... None of that stuff! 09:36 I usually go to a restaurant. 09:38 I have about 10 thousand patients... 09:40 and everyone knows me. 09:42 "Hi Doc! What would you like?" 09:44 Oop, I have this big steak, and another big steak on top of it, 09:48 and I go home, and I go to bed, 09:51 and now I understand how... ... It was not so good. 09:55 What about CHIP then, how did you hear about the CHIP Program, 09:59 and what was your initial response to hearing about it? 10:01 I did not like it at all. 10:03 I did not believe in it at all. 10:05 I felt that Dr. Diehl would be, coming to do a couple of 10:12 lectures, and then would sell T- shirts, 10:14 and some vitamins. So you were a little... 10:16 And, you know, you take the course and all the things 10:19 I did not at all. 10:20 As-a-matter-of-fact, the day before I went there, 10:24 we had a couple of events, to make me join. 10:29 We heard the word, first of all, in the newspaper, 10:32 and my wife looked at me, and said, "We're going!" 10:37 "We ARE going"... So your wife dragged you there. 10:40 In my house, I handle only foreign policy, 10:42 and she handles the rest. 10:44 Well I was sitting down, lying in bed watching TV 10:50 and I was interested in inviting a group of people to my house, 10:54 and I wanted to cook for them a turkey... 10:58 And here is a guy, selling on the TV, a HUGE BIG fryer. 11:04 Turkey... No, it's a fryer. 11:06 A fryer... okay. A big one like this, 11:08 with a heating element under it... 11:10 and then there is a cover on the top, 11:11 and then you have gloves, you have injecting syringes, 11:17 and you put like about a couple of gallons of oil in it... 11:20 and you take this big turkey... So it's a major surgery! 11:23 Yeah, and you put it in, and you lock it in about 10 minutes 11:26 and the guy... Nancy came to the room 11:30 while the guy is taking the turkey out, 11:32 and this bird sucked about a gallon of oil. 11:36 So this was your plan for the day... 11:37 Yeah, Nancy said, "We're GOING. We ARE going. We ARE going. " 11:41 Now, to make this story more interesting, 11:46 my neighbor, who is my best friend too; 11:49 he is a cardiologist... 11:50 His name is Dr. Antonio Peschiera. 11:52 And he had a brand new car; it's a Lexus, a sporty car. 11:57 And we were going for dinner, and he was coming to pick me... 12:01 And... the car was too small; you know, those fancy things. 12:06 And Nancy opened the door, and she squeezed in the back... 12:11 And I'm trying to get in... I could NOT 12:14 and he looked at me and said, "You know you are very plumpy!" 12:17 And this is the day before you went to... 12:20 YES, and I'm laughing... I said, "What do you mean?" 12:21 And Nancy started laughing, and he said, "And you too!" 12:25 And we decided... You took that as a wake-up sign 12:31 I went the next day, she was sick, my wife. 12:32 And you went to the informational meeting? 12:34 The information... And who was leading that? 12:36 Usually Valerie works... Valerie was there! 12:38 And I hope she can forgive me 12:41 because I was not a pain in the neck, I was really, really rude. 12:47 I did not believe... it was against everything I believed in 12:52 So let me just set this up for the folks... 12:55 Tell me if I'm right or wrong. 12:57 In the informational thing, Valerie takes a video 13:00 that shows an overview of the CHIP Program, 13:03 the "coronary health improvement project" 13:05 ...what's going to happen, and why and how... Exactly 13:07 And you were in that meeting... 13:08 Well, you know, through my medical school, 13:10 I know if you have high blood pressure, 13:12 you're going to have high blood pressure all your life! 13:15 I also know that if you have high cholesterol, it's too bad! 13:20 You know, I mean you're going to have it until 13:21 the Lord pushes you to the other side. 13:24 So in other words, you have it, 13:25 that's the way it is, and so you were not... 13:28 Okay, I felt it was ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY... 13:32 Did you tell Valerie that? 13:33 I started arguing with her. Oh boy... 13:35 And she really... Now we are best friends! 13:39 But in the old days, when I started, it was... 13:42 because I could not believe someone would stand up 13:45 and claim that in 4 or 5 weeks 13:47 you're going to be clear from diabetes. 13:50 Did you disrupt the class that day? I did... 13:53 I did and I asked God, and Dr. Diehl for forgiveness 13:57 because in this time, this was also an experience 14:01 for every human being like me. 14:04 You sometimes believe in something, 14:06 and you really became unflexible 14:12 and then when you REALLY realize that you were wrong later on 14:16 you really know what a fool you are! 14:18 I want to know how this changed 14:19 but we're going to take a break right now. 14:22 We're talking with Dr. Maher. 14:24 He had a very exciting experience in life. 14:27 We've heard a little bit about his life... 14:29 But now he's come to this program... the CHIP Program; 14:32 he doesn't know what to expect about it. 14:34 When we come back, we're going to hear what happened... 14:39 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 14:42 Have you been on a diet for most of your life, 14:45 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:48 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 14:50 then we have a solution for you that works! 14:54 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:56 have written a marvelous booklet called... 14:58 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 15:01 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 15:03 Here's a medically sound approach successfully 15:06 used by thousands who are able to eat more, 15:08 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty 15:11 or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 15:14 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 15:18 and in this booklet they present a sensible approach 15:20 to eating, nutrition and lifestyle changes 15:23 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 15:25 and EVEN cancer. 15:27 Call or write today for your free copy of 15:29 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 15:31 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU! 15:34 It's absolutely FREE of charge, so call or write today. 15:42 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher. 15:45 He originally is from Egypt. 15:48 He's a doctor-doctor-doctor, a dentist, a medical doctor 15:51 and also studied the philosophy of religion, 15:53 and when we broke, you were telling us a fascinating story 15:56 about how you had heard about 15:57 the coronary health improvement program... the CHIP Program. 16:00 You had just roasted, or were going to be roasting a 16:03 big turkey; you wanted to have all your friends over; 16:05 you had 2 gallons of oil in that; 16:09 you couldn't get into a car, 16:11 and your wife says, "I'm going to take you there," 16:13 and you've gone to the informational meeting, 16:15 and the lady that was giving the overview 16:17 of what the program would be like, 16:18 you didn't agree with her. What happened next? 16:20 Well you need to understand, that when you are 16:23 in the medical field, there are a lot of facts... 16:26 like if you have high cholesterol. 16:28 No one will come and tell you "I will lower your cholesterol 16:31 in 4 weeks" without medication... 16:34 because you see... a lot of companies are spending millions 16:37 of dollars to do research to sell those pills. 16:39 So you believed in the pills but you didn't believe in... 16:42 You know, with high blood pressure, you're going to have 16:44 high blood pressure until you, you know, 16:45 as long as you are not taking any medication. 16:49 If you are diabetic, you need to take some 16:52 shots in the buns every day until you can be cured... 16:55 But at the same time, I felt really that they are 17:00 giving a lot of things that they may not be able to prove. 17:05 So you were kind of wondering. 17:06 I was absolutely... until something happened... 17:11 I have a cyst on my finger. 17:13 But wait, before that, how did you get through that meeting 17:16 ...did you sign up that day? Yes 17:18 Well, why did you sign up if you didn't really... 17:19 I wanted to make sure that, as I told you, 17:23 I do only foreign policy, and my wife deals with everything else. 17:26 You did it basically on the basis of your wife. Yes! 17:29 And the love of Christ... you know what I mean! 17:31 Which is true... because this actually 17:34 saved my life! 17:35 You believed that the Lord IMPRESSED you then to sign up. 17:38 EXACTLY! I believe in this 100% 17:41 that if I did not sign and join Dr. Hans Diehl, 17:46 I would be dead today. 17:48 We're glad you're here because of that. 17:50 So what happened? You had something on your finger 17:52 Yes. When we started the program, 17:55 we usually go through the blood tests, and weight and everything 17:58 and the results came, and I don't want to tell you about 18:02 the result because it was REALLY BAD! 18:04 I had high blood pressure, borderline diabetic, 18:08 but actually, in my book, I was diabetic. 18:11 I had a very high cholesterol which was over 150 because I was 18:17 Well, that's not... over 150 that's 18:20 I'm sorry 250! ... Over 250. Forgive me. 18:22 250 and I was just... 18:24 Plus, you were a little overweight. 18:28 You know what I mean, I couldn't get in the CAR! 18:33 I was about maybe 45 pounds more than what I am right now. 18:39 I gained about 10 pounds in the winter here because 18:43 I did not do... You're back on track though. 18:44 So you had this thing on your finger, and what happened? 18:46 I had to have it taken out in 2 weeks. 18:52 And this is 2 weeks after the program, 18:54 the CHIP Program had started. Yes 18:55 And I followed EXACTLY what Dr. Diehl told us. 18:59 In the first part, you went on jumpstart, 19:01 that thing where you... FLUIDS and all that. 19:04 EXACTLY! EXACTLY... I followed him exactly. 19:09 And it usually takes 2 weeks 19:11 before you understand what is going on. 19:15 First of all... And your wife was watching you probably. 19:17 Yeah but also there is another funny thing happened 19:20 I went to get brand new pants. 19:23 And you bend and they cracked in front of the people. 19:26 It was REALLY, really bad. 19:28 And I... just like the Lord is, 19:30 because I am a little bit funny, 19:32 and He wanted to take care of me. 19:34 And then 2 weeks later, I took another... 19:38 they are preparing me for surgery. 19:41 And I asked, can you... you know they usually take blood 19:45 tests again, and I just said, 19:47 "Can you take a cholesterol test for me. " 19:50 So this is when you're in... 19:51 This is nobody that knows about Dr. Diehl's program or anything. 19:54 You're at your regular doctor, and you're getting 19:56 something done, and you're getting the blood test. 19:57 Yes, but I was noticing that my pants was getting looser 20:02 and I felt that I'm REALLY more ENERGETIC. 20:08 Well, I went to the day of the operation, my wife outside, 20:11 and my friend, and all the physicians are friends of mind, 20:15 and they were laughing with me. 20:16 And suddenly one of the nurses came and... 20:19 "Hey Doc, how are you?" 20:20 And I'm sitting down with this gown, you know, 20:23 with the opened back... 20:25 And I looked and... "By the way, can you read 20:28 for me the blood?" She said, "Okay. " 20:30 "How was my cholesterol?" 140... 20:37 I'm sorry, 180. 180? WOW! 20:40 I jumped out of the bed... 20:43 And it was above 250 when you started? Yes! 20:45 I jumped out of the bed... With your open back? 20:48 With my opened... and I ran outside, 20:50 opened the door... My wife was there... 20:52 "NANCY, NANCY... I'm 180" 20:57 "WHAT 180?" "My cholesterol is 180!" 21:00 Were there other people in the waiting room? Oh yes! 21:02 And everyone just couldn't, you know, like REALLY 21:05 ...it was something like, especially my blood pressure 21:09 started going down... 21:11 My sugar, it was like about went down a lot 21:15 even in 2 weeks... Is that right? I felt it. 21:19 And then after I finished, there were a lot of changes 21:23 especially in the end. 21:25 I think Dr. Diehl, also in his lectures, talked about the 21:29 frontal lobe of the brain, 21:32 and YOUR THINKING, because of the purity of the food 21:36 you are eating, you feel more clearly... 21:40 You feel that actually because of the lack of 21:44 the contaminated food like meat with hormones 21:48 ...a lot of processed food which contained 21:52 a lot of chemicals... 21:55 After I got rid of all of this, 21:57 especially was drinking water every hour, 21:59 I go and get me a glass of water to cleanse me, 22:02 I felt completely MORE clearer. 22:05 As-a-matter-of-fact, I was very, very aggressive! 22:08 BEFORE. Yes! 22:09 And then afterwards, you kind of got calm. 22:12 It was amazing. 22:13 Like nowadays, I have a lot of my patients who have 22:16 children who are in severe cases of rebellant 22:21 and I discussed with them about the CHIP Program... 22:25 These are your patients that come to your office. 22:26 Yes, they come to my office. 22:27 Let me go back to something, and I want to talk more about 22:29 how you relate to others after this, 22:31 but, okay, you didn't want to listen to Valerie, 22:35 but then you went and it sounds to me like, at first, 22:39 you were just going on the basis of keeping peace 22:41 with your wife... Exactly! 22:42 And then, this day in the doctor's office, 22:46 you got this cyst removed, and at the same time, 22:49 you got your cholesterol, and you found out it was happening 22:52 ...how were you relating to Dr. Diehl, himself; 22:54 you know, giving the lectures each time, at first? 22:57 Well, in the beginning, as I told you, 23:00 I was waiting to see him selling vitamins, or T-shirts, 23:04 and then we will go to his retreat, and everyone will be 23:07 several thousand dollars. 23:09 You know, I... You thought he was luring you in 23:11 Well, you watch them on TV, and you see a lot of people 23:15 are even, right now, they are using this high protein diet 23:19 and stuff like this, and I'm just trying to tell you... 23:23 You were cynical... It completely changed my life. 23:27 I found that especially with the exercise part of it, 23:32 of going for a walk, and I was afraid because I usually 23:36 come and we have a 2-level house; I park my car 23:39 in the garage, and try to climb the stairs 23:42 hehh, hehh, hehh, out-of-breath... out-of-breath 23:44 and now when I go for my walk, I put my heart 23:47 between 120 beats per minute, to 135 to keep me in the 23:53 cardiovascular improvement, as he usually says, 23:56 and also in fat-burning. 23:58 And you see the pounds are coming... 24:00 And the most fascinating part about his system 24:05 and his way, that he allows us to eat as much as we can. 24:10 Like I remember on my diet, you have 8 ounces of this, 24:15 and I measured it and I put a little more... 24:17 you know what I mean, and you are HUNGRY all the time. 24:20 Suddenly, it was the fresh fruits and vegetables, 24:23 and he loved something called "mango" which is unbelievable! 24:26 I started getting crazy on mango! 24:31 So how, let me back up in the story now... 24:33 Things have changed, you're feeling great... 24:35 What kind of conversations did you have with the man 24:37 who had the Lexus... the cardiologist, your friend. 24:40 Oh, he was so happy to see me, he also! 24:44 What about all the other physician friends, those others? 24:46 Well, as you can see, it's extremely hard to change 24:52 the physicians' ideas until they need to 24:56 experience it themselves. 24:58 You know, in the last few minutes here, 25:01 I want to talk about... it sounds to me, you know, 25:03 there's an energy here as I talk to you. 25:07 There's an energy; there's a sense of saying, 25:09 "Hey, things have TURNED around in my life. " 25:12 And you're attributing this, really, not just to Dr. Diehl, 25:15 or the CHIP Program, although that's VERY impressive, 25:18 but REALLY, to GOD. EXACTLY! 25:20 Because the Lord gave us a body to function in it. 25:27 People take care of their cars. 25:30 People take care of a lot of things... 25:33 And the least thing they take care of is themselves. 25:36 And this system will make you do God's work in OPTIMUM condition. 25:43 That God gave you this body, it was very complicated, 25:46 and at the same time, very workable, 25:49 and then we, by abusing it, by doing a lot of things to it, 25:54 and without maintaining it... 25:56 we end by having all these diseases. 25:59 Like I really, right now, and I can pray to God 26:03 that there will be someone like unions and people who 26:07 have power over groups of people. 26:10 If they follow this program, there would be very less expense 26:15 on health, on medical, and operations. 26:19 You know, for example, I had gout for over 25 years. 26:24 Sometimes I could not go to work. 26:26 I had my nurses to come and get me from the car. 26:30 And now it's gone. Yes. 26:31 And also, I have something... 26:32 Every time I go to any restaurant, 26:34 I let my kids pull me out of the chair. Oh boy... 26:38 Because I couldn't do it, you know what I mean? 26:41 Would you say... you know, 26:42 we've got about 1-1/2 minutes left here in the program, 26:45 what would you say to that person that's watching 26:47 right now, who is right on the edge and saying, 26:49 "I don't know if I can believe this or not. " 26:51 What would you say to them to say, 26:52 Hey, get in to something... 26:54 I'm going to tell you, I was the most skeptical. 26:57 As-a-matter-of-fact, I thank the good Lord 27:00 that it was Dr. Diehl and Valerie that they did not 27:05 kick me from the program. 27:07 And because of their really believing 27:09 and their understanding of our weakness, 27:13 they already changed my life, and I tell everyone 27:16 because I follow this program, I'm alive today. 27:20 And my family and I can do God's work 27:23 and whatever the Lord wants me to do. 27:25 Is your wife healthier now? Yes, much, much healthier. 27:27 We've been talking with Dr. Maher. 27:30 He is EXCITED about things that have happened in his life. 27:35 He's been changed, not only by the CHIP Program, 27:39 Dr. Diehl's ministry in that, but really by God 27:42 who led him to the program. 27:43 He feels BETTER. He has more energy! 27:46 It's been energizing to talk to him, 27:48 and I know that as you put 27:50 principles like he shared into YOUR life, 27:52 that, really, things can turn around. 27:54 You can have health that lasts for a lifetime... 27:57 A lifetime of MEANING, and benefit to others! |
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