Health for a Lifetime

Dr. Maher's Testimony

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Participants: Ashraf Maher, Don Mackintosh

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00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh,
00:50 and today I'm delighted to be talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher
00:53 Did I say that right? Exactly!
00:55 It's a very hard name, but you said it right.
00:58 Not only are you a doctor, you're a doctor-doctor...
01:01 Doctor-doctor-doctor! Is that a good way to put it?
01:04 Well I collect them just for hobbies!
01:08 That's right, now explain that to us...
01:10 You, first of all, had some schooling in...
01:13 ...In Egypt It's where I was born.
01:16 And what were you involved in? What kind of study there?
01:18 I graduated from Cairo University Medical School
01:22 And then after this, I took a, just as a hobby,
01:26 a PhD in the origin of religion. Okay!
01:29 And then we've been doing some research about
01:32 the ancient Egyptian mummies.
01:35 ...All the big names in history.
01:38 So you come from a family then, in Egypt...
01:40 Yes, I have a family in Egypt, and my family was more political
01:46 than I wish they'd been...
01:50 and then when Nasser took over, in the old days,
01:53 a lot of us had... to say it mildly, to skip town. Okay
01:59 Tell me a little bit about the...
02:01 And then also, you're a dentist is that right? Yes
02:03 So you're a doctor of medicine, and you're a dentist,
02:07 and then you're also a doctor in religion
02:10 or philosophy in religion. Yes
02:12 I'm a little nervous. No you don't have to...
02:15 But when I was in Egypt, we were coordinating with the
02:20 University of Michigan in research about x-raying
02:23 the ancient Egyptian mummies. Oh, okay...
02:26 We were doing research and at this time the computer
02:28 was very primitive; we used a punch card.
02:31 It's not like now, digital work and we took x-rays of
02:36 the mummies, and also a lot of ancient Egyptian tombs
02:42 to get the skeleton there and...
02:43 And what were you looking for in the mummies?
02:45 We tried to make a correlation...
02:47 Did the angulation of the skull
02:49 change through several thousand years.
02:52 So that was trying to prove or disprove evolution or...
02:55 No, it was not really evolution.
02:58 We just wanted to know if, during years happening,
03:02 there was an increase in the size of the brain,
03:05 or a decrease in the size of the jaw growing...
03:08 And then when I came to the university... What did you find?
03:12 Well, it wasn't conclusive.
03:15 So you found out that their brains weren't
03:18 getting bigger or smaller.
03:19 No, no, no... there was nothing.
03:21 And then you came to the University of Michigan
03:23 and I worked there, and the research was done
03:27 in the dental school.
03:28 And I can get a research assistant, and take a degree
03:32 in 2-1/2 years, and I would graduate fast,
03:36 and I jumped in and became a dentist to support my habit!
03:43 Which is a love of study I take it...
03:45 A love of... you know the system of belief
03:49 It usually interests me, but it was really an interest in life.
03:55 So they probably were very interested in you because
03:57 you knew Egyptian, and you also...
04:00 did you know how to read hieroglyphics? Yes
04:03 You need to understand that the way the hieroglyphic is written
04:08 in the old days like when you go to a temple,
04:10 a lot of people will watch or be able to read it.
04:15 They don't realize that it was written by different thoughts
04:19 or a different way of thinking.
04:21 For example, my visit with you here today,
04:24 if it needed to be recorded in the temple,
04:27 they will see, during the Clinton Administration,
04:32 and also the governor of Illinois, and you go, and you go
04:36 until in the end... whatever happened, you know.
04:40 Sort of in the year of our Lord, blah, blah, blah, blah. Exactly
04:43 And then they would position it. Exactly
04:47 Interesting, and they draw it all in pictures.
04:48 Now let me ask you this... Is it from front-to-back?
04:50 I understood that you read this way on a tablet,
04:54 and then that way...
04:56 This is a very, very important part of it.
05:00 They are written in columns. Oh...
05:03 And it could be from left-to- right, up-to-down, and left...
05:06 and that's why it's very, very confusing...
05:09 like there was no system of writing the way
05:13 we have it here from left-to-right.
05:16 Some of the ancient script was written in columns from
05:20 top-to-bottom, or right-to-left or left-to-right.
05:23 Interesting... So when did they figure that out?
05:26 I mean, I might be portraying my ignorance here,
05:29 but was it during the time of Napoleon
05:31 then they really figured it out? Exactly
05:33 When Champollion arrived,
05:35 he was extremely very good in
05:38 religion... I'm sorry, in ancient language.
05:43 He spoke several languages,
05:44 and even able to decipher because of the Rosetta Stone,
05:49 and they found the cartouche with the name of Cleopatra in it
05:53 and he became able to decipher it...
05:54 And from then on, it started happening...
05:57 and very few people really know it very well.
06:00 And one of them is a lady in Kentucky;
06:03 her name is Normandi Ellis,
06:06 and she's the one who translated the Book of the Dead...
06:10 And she was able also to understand
06:12 the spirit of the words...
06:14 Like here especially with every new generation,
06:18 there are a lot of words, like if someone
06:20 tried to translate a high school guy saying,
06:23 "Wow, he's cool!"
06:25 You know, in Japanese, it would be "He's freezing. "
06:28 Okay so, interesting, so then to get back to that part
06:31 where they can really understand what it says...
06:33 Now, you know, one thing that has fascinated me about
06:34 the study of ancient Egyptian history was also some
06:38 studies out of the University of Manchester
06:40 where they were looking at mummies again,
06:42 and they saw the common diseases in Egypt.
06:45 Have you seen anything about that or read about that?
06:46 Oh yes! What were some of the
06:47 common diseases in Egypt?
06:49 The common diseases were... arthritis, of course,
06:51 and you have also TB.
06:55 Was there heart disease? Of course!
06:57 Did they see that in the mummies?
06:58 No, because the mummies, really, you cannot go
07:01 and look at the arteries. Okay
07:03 Now, maybe we would be able to do it,
07:06 but in the old days... because you're not allowed to
07:10 open the mummy...
07:12 You would take x-rays of the mummy.
07:14 We did not really...
07:16 But I can understand that in ancient people,
07:20 like in every place regarding diet,
07:23 because of the hard to find food in ancient time,
07:28 usually heavy, fatty, high meat, was good for the peoples
07:37 idea of being "the rich" or, you know,
07:41 like all his life will say, "Well, on Christmas
07:43 or when the Nile rises, I will have a couple of pigs. "
07:49 Now, you know, it's kind of interesting how you
07:54 learned about 3ABN and different things,
07:56 and I think that's through Dr. Hans Diehl.
07:59 Yes, it was an incredible event in my life.
08:03 Now, Dr. Hans Diehl, I've worked with him a little bit too...
08:06 Those who are watching maybe don't know
08:09 a little bit about that, but it was the CHIP Program
08:11 and he's recently come out with a series of videos
08:15 that really are the fruit of about 12 years of work
08:18 where he takes people through a 30-day program,
08:22 where they're educated, and motivated
08:24 to make changes that can lead to longer life.
08:31 How did you hear about the CHIP Program?
08:33 Well, I would like to tell you a little bit about BEFORE
08:35 I heard about the CHIP Program. Okay
08:36 I was a meat-eater! Okay
08:40 And for me, when I came from the office,
08:43 after a hard day, when I go outside,
08:46 I wanted to eat the biggest piece of meat,
08:48 and anything on the plate other than meat,
08:51 was a waste of space for me!
08:54 So you were not even a meat and potatoes man,
08:56 you were a meat-man. There was eating no potatoes or no salad,
08:59 you know, like the salad when Nancy, my wife,
09:01 would eat salad and stuff like this, I looked at them
09:04 and she was a little bit more health conscious before me.
09:09 I looked at her... Is she from Egypt as well? No
09:13 She is from Kalamazoo, Michigan.
09:15 And she visited the pyramids of Egypt too... we took her once
09:18 But for me, it was a wonderful thing.
09:22 I have a couple of times, NOW when I know what happened,
09:26 I really thank the good Lord that I'm still alive.
09:29 So you LOVED meat!
09:31 You didn't like hummus? You didn't like tabouli?
09:33 No, no, no, no, no... None of that stuff!
09:36 I usually go to a restaurant.
09:38 I have about 10 thousand patients...
09:40 and everyone knows me.
09:42 "Hi Doc! What would you like?"
09:44 Oop, I have this big steak, and another big steak on top of it,
09:48 and I go home, and I go to bed,
09:51 and now I understand how... ... It was not so good.
09:55 What about CHIP then, how did you hear about the CHIP Program,
09:59 and what was your initial response to hearing about it?
10:01 I did not like it at all.
10:03 I did not believe in it at all.
10:05 I felt that Dr. Diehl would be, coming to do a couple of
10:12 lectures, and then would sell T- shirts,
10:14 and some vitamins. So you were a little...
10:16 And, you know, you take the course and all the things
10:19 I did not at all.
10:20 As-a-matter-of-fact, the day before I went there,
10:24 we had a couple of events, to make me join.
10:29 We heard the word, first of all, in the newspaper,
10:32 and my wife looked at me, and said, "We're going!"
10:37 "We ARE going"... So your wife dragged you there.
10:40 In my house, I handle only foreign policy,
10:42 and she handles the rest.
10:44 Well I was sitting down, lying in bed watching TV
10:50 and I was interested in inviting a group of people to my house,
10:54 and I wanted to cook for them a turkey...
10:58 And here is a guy, selling on the TV, a HUGE BIG fryer.
11:04 Turkey... No, it's a fryer.
11:06 A fryer... okay. A big one like this,
11:08 with a heating element under it...
11:10 and then there is a cover on the top,
11:11 and then you have gloves, you have injecting syringes,
11:17 and you put like about a couple of gallons of oil in it...
11:20 and you take this big turkey... So it's a major surgery!
11:23 Yeah, and you put it in, and you lock it in about 10 minutes
11:26 and the guy... Nancy came to the room
11:30 while the guy is taking the turkey out,
11:32 and this bird sucked about a gallon of oil.
11:36 So this was your plan for the day...
11:37 Yeah, Nancy said, "We're GOING. We ARE going. We ARE going. "
11:41 Now, to make this story more interesting,
11:46 my neighbor, who is my best friend too;
11:49 he is a cardiologist...
11:50 His name is Dr. Antonio Peschiera.
11:52 And he had a brand new car; it's a Lexus, a sporty car.
11:57 And we were going for dinner, and he was coming to pick me...
12:01 And... the car was too small; you know, those fancy things.
12:06 And Nancy opened the door, and she squeezed in the back...
12:11 And I'm trying to get in... I could NOT
12:14 and he looked at me and said, "You know you are very plumpy!"
12:17 And this is the day before you went to...
12:20 YES, and I'm laughing... I said, "What do you mean?"
12:21 And Nancy started laughing, and he said, "And you too!"
12:25 And we decided... You took that as a wake-up sign
12:31 I went the next day, she was sick, my wife.
12:32 And you went to the informational meeting?
12:34 The information... And who was leading that?
12:36 Usually Valerie works... Valerie was there!
12:38 And I hope she can forgive me
12:41 because I was not a pain in the neck, I was really, really rude.
12:47 I did not believe... it was against everything I believed in
12:52 So let me just set this up for the folks...
12:55 Tell me if I'm right or wrong.
12:57 In the informational thing, Valerie takes a video
13:00 that shows an overview of the CHIP Program,
13:03 the "coronary health improvement project"
13:05 ...what's going to happen, and why and how... Exactly
13:07 And you were in that meeting...
13:08 Well, you know, through my medical school,
13:10 I know if you have high blood pressure,
13:12 you're going to have high blood pressure all your life!
13:15 I also know that if you have high cholesterol, it's too bad!
13:20 You know, I mean you're going to have it until
13:21 the Lord pushes you to the other side.
13:24 So in other words, you have it,
13:25 that's the way it is, and so you were not...
13:28 Okay, I felt it was ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY...
13:32 Did you tell Valerie that?
13:33 I started arguing with her. Oh boy...
13:35 And she really... Now we are best friends!
13:39 But in the old days, when I started, it was...
13:42 because I could not believe someone would stand up
13:45 and claim that in 4 or 5 weeks
13:47 you're going to be clear from diabetes.
13:50 Did you disrupt the class that day? I did...
13:53 I did and I asked God, and Dr. Diehl for forgiveness
13:57 because in this time, this was also an experience
14:01 for every human being like me.
14:04 You sometimes believe in something,
14:06 and you really became unflexible
14:12 and then when you REALLY realize that you were wrong later on
14:16 you really know what a fool you are!
14:18 I want to know how this changed
14:19 but we're going to take a break right now.
14:22 We're talking with Dr. Maher.
14:24 He had a very exciting experience in life.
14:27 We've heard a little bit about his life...
14:29 But now he's come to this program... the CHIP Program;
14:32 he doesn't know what to expect about it.
14:34 When we come back, we're going to hear what happened...
14:39 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds
14:42 Have you been on a diet for most of your life,
14:45 but not found anything that will really keep the weight off?
14:48 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions,
14:50 then we have a solution for you that works!
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14:56 have written a marvelous booklet called...
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15:42 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Ashraf Maher.
15:45 He originally is from Egypt.
15:48 He's a doctor-doctor-doctor, a dentist, a medical doctor
15:51 and also studied the philosophy of religion,
15:53 and when we broke, you were telling us a fascinating story
15:56 about how you had heard about
15:57 the coronary health improvement program... the CHIP Program.
16:00 You had just roasted, or were going to be roasting a
16:03 big turkey; you wanted to have all your friends over;
16:05 you had 2 gallons of oil in that;
16:09 you couldn't get into a car,
16:11 and your wife says, "I'm going to take you there,"
16:13 and you've gone to the informational meeting,
16:15 and the lady that was giving the overview
16:17 of what the program would be like,
16:18 you didn't agree with her. What happened next?
16:20 Well you need to understand, that when you are
16:23 in the medical field, there are a lot of facts...
16:26 like if you have high cholesterol.
16:28 No one will come and tell you "I will lower your cholesterol
16:31 in 4 weeks" without medication...
16:34 because you see... a lot of companies are spending millions
16:37 of dollars to do research to sell those pills.
16:39 So you believed in the pills but you didn't believe in...
16:42 You know, with high blood pressure, you're going to have
16:44 high blood pressure until you, you know,
16:45 as long as you are not taking any medication.
16:49 If you are diabetic, you need to take some
16:52 shots in the buns every day until you can be cured...
16:55 But at the same time, I felt really that they are
17:00 giving a lot of things that they may not be able to prove.
17:05 So you were kind of wondering.
17:06 I was absolutely... until something happened...
17:11 I have a cyst on my finger.
17:13 But wait, before that, how did you get through that meeting
17:16 ...did you sign up that day? Yes
17:18 Well, why did you sign up if you didn't really...
17:19 I wanted to make sure that, as I told you,
17:23 I do only foreign policy, and my wife deals with everything else.
17:26 You did it basically on the basis of your wife. Yes!
17:29 And the love of Christ... you know what I mean!
17:31 Which is true... because this actually
17:34 saved my life!
17:35 You believed that the Lord IMPRESSED you then to sign up.
17:38 EXACTLY! I believe in this 100%
17:41 that if I did not sign and join Dr. Hans Diehl,
17:46 I would be dead today.
17:48 We're glad you're here because of that.
17:50 So what happened? You had something on your finger
17:52 Yes. When we started the program,
17:55 we usually go through the blood tests, and weight and everything
17:58 and the results came, and I don't want to tell you about
18:02 the result because it was REALLY BAD!
18:04 I had high blood pressure, borderline diabetic,
18:08 but actually, in my book, I was diabetic.
18:11 I had a very high cholesterol which was over 150 because I was
18:17 Well, that's not... over 150 that's
18:20 I'm sorry 250! ... Over 250. Forgive me.
18:22 250 and I was just...
18:24 Plus, you were a little overweight.
18:28 You know what I mean, I couldn't get in the CAR!
18:33 I was about maybe 45 pounds more than what I am right now.
18:39 I gained about 10 pounds in the winter here because
18:43 I did not do... You're back on track though.
18:44 So you had this thing on your finger, and what happened?
18:46 I had to have it taken out in 2 weeks.
18:52 And this is 2 weeks after the program,
18:54 the CHIP Program had started. Yes
18:55 And I followed EXACTLY what Dr. Diehl told us.
18:59 In the first part, you went on jumpstart,
19:01 that thing where you... FLUIDS and all that.
19:04 EXACTLY! EXACTLY... I followed him exactly.
19:09 And it usually takes 2 weeks
19:11 before you understand what is going on.
19:15 First of all... And your wife was watching you probably.
19:17 Yeah but also there is another funny thing happened
19:20 I went to get brand new pants.
19:23 And you bend and they cracked in front of the people.
19:26 It was REALLY, really bad.
19:28 And I... just like the Lord is,
19:30 because I am a little bit funny,
19:32 and He wanted to take care of me.
19:34 And then 2 weeks later, I took another...
19:38 they are preparing me for surgery.
19:41 And I asked, can you... you know they usually take blood
19:45 tests again, and I just said,
19:47 "Can you take a cholesterol test for me. "
19:50 So this is when you're in...
19:51 This is nobody that knows about Dr. Diehl's program or anything.
19:54 You're at your regular doctor, and you're getting
19:56 something done, and you're getting the blood test.
19:57 Yes, but I was noticing that my pants was getting looser
20:02 and I felt that I'm REALLY more ENERGETIC.
20:08 Well, I went to the day of the operation, my wife outside,
20:11 and my friend, and all the physicians are friends of mind,
20:15 and they were laughing with me.
20:16 And suddenly one of the nurses came and...
20:19 "Hey Doc, how are you?"
20:20 And I'm sitting down with this gown, you know,
20:23 with the opened back...
20:25 And I looked and... "By the way, can you read
20:28 for me the blood?" She said, "Okay. "
20:30 "How was my cholesterol?" 140...
20:37 I'm sorry, 180. 180? WOW!
20:40 I jumped out of the bed...
20:43 And it was above 250 when you started? Yes!
20:45 I jumped out of the bed... With your open back?
20:48 With my opened... and I ran outside,
20:50 opened the door... My wife was there...
20:52 "NANCY, NANCY... I'm 180"
20:57 "WHAT 180?" "My cholesterol is 180!"
21:00 Were there other people in the waiting room? Oh yes!
21:02 And everyone just couldn't, you know, like REALLY
21:05 ...it was something like, especially my blood pressure
21:09 started going down...
21:11 My sugar, it was like about went down a lot
21:15 even in 2 weeks... Is that right? I felt it.
21:19 And then after I finished, there were a lot of changes
21:23 especially in the end.
21:25 I think Dr. Diehl, also in his lectures, talked about the
21:29 frontal lobe of the brain,
21:32 and YOUR THINKING, because of the purity of the food
21:36 you are eating, you feel more clearly...
21:40 You feel that actually because of the lack of
21:44 the contaminated food like meat with hormones
21:48 ...a lot of processed food which contained
21:52 a lot of chemicals...
21:55 After I got rid of all of this,
21:57 especially was drinking water every hour,
21:59 I go and get me a glass of water to cleanse me,
22:02 I felt completely MORE clearer.
22:05 As-a-matter-of-fact, I was very, very aggressive!
22:08 BEFORE. Yes!
22:09 And then afterwards, you kind of got calm.
22:12 It was amazing.
22:13 Like nowadays, I have a lot of my patients who have
22:16 children who are in severe cases of rebellant
22:21 and I discussed with them about the CHIP Program...
22:25 These are your patients that come to your office.
22:26 Yes, they come to my office.
22:27 Let me go back to something, and I want to talk more about
22:29 how you relate to others after this,
22:31 but, okay, you didn't want to listen to Valerie,
22:35 but then you went and it sounds to me like, at first,
22:39 you were just going on the basis of keeping peace
22:41 with your wife... Exactly!
22:42 And then, this day in the doctor's office,
22:46 you got this cyst removed, and at the same time,
22:49 you got your cholesterol, and you found out it was happening
22:52 ...how were you relating to Dr. Diehl, himself;
22:54 you know, giving the lectures each time, at first?
22:57 Well, in the beginning, as I told you,
23:00 I was waiting to see him selling vitamins, or T-shirts,
23:04 and then we will go to his retreat, and everyone will be
23:07 several thousand dollars.
23:09 You know, I... You thought he was luring you in
23:11 Well, you watch them on TV, and you see a lot of people
23:15 are even, right now, they are using this high protein diet
23:19 and stuff like this, and I'm just trying to tell you...
23:23 You were cynical... It completely changed my life.
23:27 I found that especially with the exercise part of it,
23:32 of going for a walk, and I was afraid because I usually
23:36 come and we have a 2-level house; I park my car
23:39 in the garage, and try to climb the stairs
23:42 hehh, hehh, hehh, out-of-breath... out-of-breath
23:44 and now when I go for my walk, I put my heart
23:47 between 120 beats per minute, to 135 to keep me in the
23:53 cardiovascular improvement, as he usually says,
23:56 and also in fat-burning.
23:58 And you see the pounds are coming...
24:00 And the most fascinating part about his system
24:05 and his way, that he allows us to eat as much as we can.
24:10 Like I remember on my diet, you have 8 ounces of this,
24:15 and I measured it and I put a little more...
24:17 you know what I mean, and you are HUNGRY all the time.
24:20 Suddenly, it was the fresh fruits and vegetables,
24:23 and he loved something called "mango" which is unbelievable!
24:26 I started getting crazy on mango!
24:31 So how, let me back up in the story now...
24:33 Things have changed, you're feeling great...
24:35 What kind of conversations did you have with the man
24:37 who had the Lexus... the cardiologist, your friend.
24:40 Oh, he was so happy to see me, he also!
24:44 What about all the other physician friends, those others?
24:46 Well, as you can see, it's extremely hard to change
24:52 the physicians' ideas until they need to
24:56 experience it themselves.
24:58 You know, in the last few minutes here,
25:01 I want to talk about... it sounds to me, you know,
25:03 there's an energy here as I talk to you.
25:07 There's an energy; there's a sense of saying,
25:09 "Hey, things have TURNED around in my life. "
25:12 And you're attributing this, really, not just to Dr. Diehl,
25:15 or the CHIP Program, although that's VERY impressive,
25:18 but REALLY, to GOD. EXACTLY!
25:20 Because the Lord gave us a body to function in it.
25:27 People take care of their cars.
25:30 People take care of a lot of things...
25:33 And the least thing they take care of is themselves.
25:36 And this system will make you do God's work in OPTIMUM condition.
25:43 That God gave you this body, it was very complicated,
25:46 and at the same time, very workable,
25:49 and then we, by abusing it, by doing a lot of things to it,
25:54 and without maintaining it...
25:56 we end by having all these diseases.
25:59 Like I really, right now, and I can pray to God
26:03 that there will be someone like unions and people who
26:07 have power over groups of people.
26:10 If they follow this program, there would be very less expense
26:15 on health, on medical, and operations.
26:19 You know, for example, I had gout for over 25 years.
26:24 Sometimes I could not go to work.
26:26 I had my nurses to come and get me from the car.
26:30 And now it's gone. Yes.
26:31 And also, I have something...
26:32 Every time I go to any restaurant,
26:34 I let my kids pull me out of the chair. Oh boy...
26:38 Because I couldn't do it, you know what I mean?
26:41 Would you say... you know,
26:42 we've got about 1-1/2 minutes left here in the program,
26:45 what would you say to that person that's watching
26:47 right now, who is right on the edge and saying,
26:49 "I don't know if I can believe this or not. "
26:51 What would you say to them to say,
26:52 Hey, get in to something...
26:54 I'm going to tell you, I was the most skeptical.
26:57 As-a-matter-of-fact, I thank the good Lord
27:00 that it was Dr. Diehl and Valerie that they did not
27:05 kick me from the program.
27:07 And because of their really believing
27:09 and their understanding of our weakness,
27:13 they already changed my life, and I tell everyone
27:16 because I follow this program, I'm alive today.
27:20 And my family and I can do God's work
27:23 and whatever the Lord wants me to do.
27:25 Is your wife healthier now? Yes, much, much healthier.
27:27 We've been talking with Dr. Maher.
27:30 He is EXCITED about things that have happened in his life.
27:35 He's been changed, not only by the CHIP Program,
27:39 Dr. Diehl's ministry in that, but really by God
27:42 who led him to the program.
27:43 He feels BETTER. He has more energy!
27:46 It's been energizing to talk to him,
27:48 and I know that as you put
27:50 principles like he shared into YOUR life,
27:52 that, really, things can turn around.
27:54 You can have health that lasts for a lifetime...
27:57 A lifetime of MEANING, and benefit to others!


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