Health for a Lifetime

Lifestyle And Depression Pt. 2

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Participants: Neil Nedley, Don Mackintosh

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00:43 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:44 I'm your host Don Mackintosh
00:46 We're glad you're with us today,
00:47 and we're also glad, Dr. Nedley, that you're with us,
00:50 and that you could take time out of your busy schedule
00:53 to help us with a real dilemma... Thank You!
00:56 That real dilemma is depression... Yes
00:59 From what you've told me,
01:01 this affects how many people in America?
01:02 Oh, it affects at least 14 million people.
01:05 About 10% of the population will get depression,
01:10 MAJOR depression at some point in their lifetime.
01:12 What about worldwide?
01:13 Worldwide, it's even bigger than that...
01:17 It's about 200 million people affected worldwide.
01:20 So, no matter if you're here in America watching,
01:22 or around the world, this is a BIG issue.
01:26 And today, we're going to talk about some HOPEFUL ways
01:28 to combat depression, that being those that are
01:30 related to lifestyle.
01:32 These are things that we can actually DO something about.
01:35 We can do something about depression, can't we?
01:38 Oh yes, it's largely a disease of nutrition and lifestyle.
01:42 And if we can get on the right program,
01:45 we can not only prevent it, but often treat it!
01:48 Now, before we kind of get into some of these
01:51 lifestyle factors, I might just mention to our viewers
01:55 that you can actually get Dr. Nedley's book.
01:58 He has written a new book on this;
02:00 it will be out in the very near future.
02:04 Please consider calling 3ABN and getting information
02:08 about that and how to get in touch with Dr. Nedley
02:11 because some of the things we cover today
02:12 ...there's all kinds of footnotes in your book!
02:15 I love that about a book!
02:16 Yes, we document everything from the scientific standpoint.
02:19 You know, your last book, "Proof Positive"
02:21 where you had over 2,000 different studies
02:24 where you could just have at your fingertips,
02:26 and you could find those references...
02:28 It's really helpful when you talk to people,
02:30 or when you talk to your physician to say,
02:33 "Hey, this is why I'm bringing this up. "
02:36 So it's a great resource.
02:38 Well let's talk about these lifestyle factors.
02:42 You mentioned here, that social support is very important
02:46 in combating or avoiding depression. Why do you say that?
02:51 Yes, well isolationism actually leads to depression
02:55 in many instances... not only in humans,
02:59 but also in the animal kingdom.
03:00 When animals are isolated, they will tend to
03:03 actually suffer symptoms of depression.
03:05 And the same is even more true of human beings.
03:09 And so, having a social support network which includes
03:12 not only good family, but close friends are important
03:16 in avoiding depression...
03:18 particularly for those that
03:20 already have a tendency to have depression.
03:23 So when someone says, who is depressed,
03:24 "I just need time alone to work through it"
03:26 that's not really a good model.
03:28 Not really a good model... No
03:30 And in fact, there's something even more important
03:33 than social support, and that is a sense of belonging.
03:37 A study at the University of Michigan took a look
03:41 at those factors; social support or a sense of belonging,
03:44 and they found out the sense of belonging was even
03:46 MORE important than social support...
03:48 So there are individuals that can have lots of friends,
03:51 lots of family, seem like they're well-socially-connected
03:55 but they don't have a sense that their family or friends
03:59 really BELONG to them.
04:01 They have no real sense of belonging,
04:03 and those people are also a setup for major depression.
04:06 So, the person who thinks that people are just around them
04:09 because of their money, because of their looks,
04:11 because of this, because of that...
04:12 and really senses like if all that
04:14 was gone, they would be gone too.
04:16 They're really set up for depression.
04:18 They're set up for it.
04:19 So how can you manufacture a sense of belonging
04:23 ...it can't be manufactured.
04:24 What gives you a sense of belonging?
04:26 Did the study say anything about that?
04:27 No, it didn't say anything about that.
04:29 That would be a subject for subsequent studies,
04:32 but there have been other studies that have alluded to it.
04:35 And that is, if you can get yourself involved in a cause
04:40 that is helpful to the community,
04:44 helpful to others, and that being a team cause...
04:49 where it brings other people together.
04:52 When you're working towards the same goals and mission,
04:55 that will often bring about the sense of belonging,
04:58 and the sense of closeness that you can't get
05:01 when you're just going to ballgames, or you're just
05:05 having social things that aren't really connected
05:08 to an overall purpose and goal.
05:11 So some kind of unifying...
05:13 "This is not only what I'm doing but this is how it relates to
05:17 why I'm here. " Exactly!
05:20 Well, that kind of reminds ya,
05:22 I mean, being a pastor as well as a nurse...
05:23 It reminds me of Jesus and the whole idea to reach
05:27 the whole world, and He talked about His disciples
05:29 as if they belonged to Him...
05:30 "I haven't lost one of these, or I don't want to lose any"
05:33 and they belong to Him and that type of thing.
05:35 So, would... I don't want to be self-serving
05:38 as a pastor here, but I have to ask you,
05:40 as a Christian physician, and as a scientist,
05:44 ...would going to church give a sense of belonging?
05:46 It could give a sense of belonging, but it may not either
05:49 A lot of churches are more social clubs...
05:52 than they are really working
05:54 toward a common purpose and goal,
05:57 and going there might be able to help in some form or fashion
06:01 just because of the social connectedness...
06:03 But really, you have to have an overall goal and purpose
06:06 in mind in order to get that sense of belonging.
06:08 So let's say you were going to church because you
06:11 felt as though those people that you were studying
06:13 the Bible with, or you had been helping were going to
06:15 be there and you needed to help them,
06:16 would that be a sense of belonging? Oh yes...
06:18 That would be a strong sense of belonging.
06:20 Hey... you're helping me out!
06:21 I think you should come to my church,
06:22 and we'll just share this.
06:24 Okay, the next thing I see they have mentioned here is
06:26 cognitive behavioral therapy...
06:29 Sounds like something you would have for dinner,
06:31 but what is it?
06:32 Well, actually it's a new type of counseling that has been
06:38 shown to be very effective as far as combating depression.
06:41 And I should mention, Don, that the usual type of
06:44 counseling that is being practiced in this country,
06:47 and that has been practiced for many years,
06:49 has never been shown to be
06:50 better than taking a placebo pill.
06:52 And a placebo is a fake pill, you mean...
06:54 Is a fake pill... a placebo pill is just a sugar pill,
06:57 or a fake pill that has no active ingredients,
07:00 and if we were to compare it to taking a fake pill,
07:04 the traditional forms of counseling
07:06 do NO better than that.
07:07 So the only thing they do is make money for somebody.
07:09 Essentially... and they take up time,
07:13 and they might produce some sort of friendship.
07:17 But as far as actually helping the depression,
07:20 it really doesn't seem to help any better than a placebo.
07:24 So when you mean regular kind of counseling,
07:26 do you mean... like where you go in and the person says,
07:28 "Well about your past, and what about this,
07:31 and what did your parents do," and this and that,
07:33 and trying to peel the onion skins off and...
07:38 Yes, that the usual form.
07:40 It's an open-ended; there's no time limitation
07:43 as far as how long this thing is going to continue.
07:46 And, it goes in to your childrearing...
07:49 It goes into the past events in your life,
07:53 and how they might have shaped the current situation
07:57 that you are in.
07:58 And, often that puts blames on others,
08:02 it puts blames on your childrearing,
08:04 but doesn't really help you, per se.
08:06 And of course, the therapist will say,
08:09 "Well, you need to deal with these suppressed issues. "
08:11 "You never dealt with this problem that you had with
08:13 your father 25 years ago. "
08:16 And so, you need to go through some sort of mental task
08:21 of actually dealing with it,
08:23 and that's supposed to help the depression.
08:25 It doesn't help. Doesn't help...
08:27 And unequivocally, it does not work.
08:30 So this cognitive therapy is different than that.
08:33 It's cognitive behavioral therapy that's talking about
08:37 your thoughts and your behavior. That's correct
08:39 It has been around now for about 20 years...
08:43 even though the science behind it is just now being confirmed.
08:48 Over the last 20 years, there have been now
08:51 MANY controlled studies that show that it is far superior
08:54 to taking a placebo pill.
08:55 This type of counseling works...
08:57 And it's a type of counseling that's focused on the
09:01 particular problem; it's focused on the individual,
09:03 and what that individual can do differently.
09:06 So it doesn't matter if you're parents, and your grandparents
09:09 and somebody else... little Johnny hit you with
09:11 a stick when you were 3 years old,
09:12 or you had a traumatic birth that you didn't know about...
09:15 All those different things are THERE,
09:17 but this kind of thing... is it the type of thing that
09:19 says, "You're here now, this is the issue,
09:21 what can YOU do about it? Exactly
09:24 That's the type of counseling.
09:25 That sounds a lot like my mother.
09:29 Maybe she knew about this. Maybe she knew about it!
09:31 Okay so, how does it work?
09:35 What else should we know about it?
09:36 How can we get involved in that?
09:37 What are the sources for it?
09:39 Well really, if you're wanting to get counseling,
09:44 you would want to know exactly
09:45 what type of counseling is being done.
09:48 And if it's the cognitive behavioral system,
09:50 chances are you've got a good counselor there
09:53 that's going to be able to work through some of the problems.
09:56 The interesting thing is this has also been shown
09:58 to be helpful for chronic depression.
10:00 Chronic depression is where you have had major
10:04 depression for at least 2 years.
10:07 And the study that was done recently, showed that the
10:09 average individual had been depressed for 20 years...
10:14 And a 20-year period of time is a LONG time to be depressed.
10:18 And most of these people have tried medicines;
10:20 they've tried all sorts of things that have not been
10:22 successful.
10:24 Well, what they did is, they put them on
10:26 one medication by the name of "Serzone"
10:29 AND put them through good cognitive behavioral counseling.
10:34 ...85% of those patients improved in a very rapid
10:38 period of time... better than what ANYONE
10:41 had ever predicted that chronic
10:42 depressed patients could get better,
10:44 at least percentage-wise...
10:47 How large a study was that?
10:48 How many people were in that study?
10:50 There was quite a few...
10:52 Actually I'd have to take a look here,
10:57 but I must have it in my footnotes.
11:00 I don't have it in the actual text here.
11:02 But it was a large enough study to be published in the
11:04 "New England Journal of Medicine" just this year.
11:07 Amazing! So actually, a lot of people that are out there today
11:10 watching and are languishing in depression,
11:13 maybe for 10, 15, 20 years, anybody over 2 years,
11:16 if they have this combination, they have some high hopes.
11:21 ...85% of those that were in the study, at least, had that hope.
11:24 That's correct. So how can you find that?
11:26 You've got a counselor and you're there...
11:28 How can you find out whether or not he's really giving you
11:30 the full meal-deal, so-to-speak.
11:31 Well if he starts going into past events,
11:35 and how they've shaped your life, that's a red flag.
11:38 Now, of course, a counselor is going to have to get a
11:42 history on you and help understand exactly where you are
11:45 and they're going to have to understand what some of the
11:47 issues are surrounding that... Still back there at age 5 or 6
11:50 and they stay there for 2 months, that's a problem.
11:52 That is a MAJOR problem, and I would drop that counselor.
11:57 Okay, so cognitive behavioral therapy is the way to go.
12:05 You have another one down here, "owning a pet"
12:06 Yes, now some people, because of their disability,
12:10 or because of their handicap, etcetera, may not be able
12:13 to go to church and get into a connected social group...
12:16 And for these individuals, we recommend if they don't
12:20 have one, to actually own a pet,
12:23 and to actually take care of that pet.
12:26 They will then feel a sense of belonging again.
12:28 They will have a sense of caring and love,
12:31 and they'll recognize that there is
12:32 someone that is dependent on them.
12:34 And this has been shown to be helpful in select
12:36 depressed patients.
12:37 So for patients that can't get out,
12:39 can't do this, can't do that...
12:41 Of course you can get depressed from having too many pets.
12:46 I was just talking to a lady the other day...
12:48 I was at her house; she had like 30 cats,
12:50 and this and that, and it took her all day to...
12:52 and I think she was literally depressed trying to keep up.
12:54 She was more like a zookeeper.
12:56 Yeah, you can overdo it.
12:59 So, does it matter what kind of pet you own?
13:02 Well actually, the studies haven't looked at that
13:05 in a lot of detail, but you'd want to own a pet that
13:08 can relate to you...
13:09 Probably a turtle wouldn't be the best.
13:12 A cat or a dog would probably be pretty good.
13:15 So if you're going to have an iguana,
13:16 it needs to be a loving iguana!
13:18 One that can interact with you.
13:19 Well, we've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley...
13:22 We've been talking about something that's really
13:23 no laughing matter, especially
13:25 if you're suffering from depression.
13:26 We're glad that you're watching today.
13:28 When we come back from the break,
13:29 We're going to talk about more lifestyle things that can
13:32 help us avoid or reverse depression.
13:35 We hope that you're telling others about the program,
13:37 and we hope that you ALL can join us when
13:39 we come back from this break.
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14:44 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley
14:48 about depression and what you can do to prevent it,
14:50 or to reverse it, or to avoid it...
14:52 And we've been talking about lifestyle factors, Dr. Nedley.
14:55 And, we've talked about social support...
14:57 We've talked about cognitive behavioral therapy.
14:59 We've talked even about owning a pet!
15:01 But now we have some other interesting things...
15:05 You mention in your book also
15:06 hydrotherapy... How does that help?
15:07 Hydrotherapy USED to be used from the 1950s back,
15:15 even in the 1800s A LOT in mental institutions
15:19 simply because it worked... particularly for the
15:23 acute anxiety episodes, and for individuals
15:27 who are out of control,
15:28 they would put them in a sheet-wrap.
15:30 They would wrap them up in a wet sheet,
15:31 and then the body temperature would warm that up
15:33 and then they'd suddenly be asleep?
15:34 That's right, then by that time they'd be asleep
15:36 and they'd be under control, and they'd wake up
15:38 a whole lot better person than what they went to sleep as.
15:42 But there's been a resurrection of hydrotherapy.
15:44 A study done at Michigan State University
15:47 showed that taking a warm bath,
15:50 this would be between 99-103 degrees Fahrenheit
15:54 for about 20-30 minutes before going to bed, will enhance sleep
15:59 and that actually improves one
16:03 of the major causes of depression,
16:05 and that is a lack of sleep, or lack of being
16:08 on the appropriate circadian rhythm cycle.
16:11 And so it is a good general rule that about 20-30 minutes
16:16 a warm bath prior to bedtime;
16:18 it doesn't have to be real sophisticated...
16:20 It could be in a hot tub.
16:21 It just could be your own bathtub at home.
16:23 It can do a lot in enhancing sleep and actually
16:27 improving depression.
16:28 You haven't mentioned this, but I know a lot of places,
16:30 they practice this... and in hydrotherapy, of course,
16:34 I hope everyone caught that...
16:35 But so-called, ECT therapy, or electroshock therapy...
16:41 Does that have an effect that's positive on depression?
16:44 Well, it can help depression a great deal.
16:48 What it does is actually induce seizures,
16:51 and it does that under anesthetic.
16:55 And, by having the seizures, and having all of this
17:02 output of the neurotransmitters has actually been shown to
17:05 enhance mood in the long run,
17:08 and actually prevent as well as
17:10 cure rather severe forms of depression.
17:15 However, it does have significant side effects.
17:17 It will reduce memory.
17:19 In fact, even childhood memories that are
17:22 firmly embedded in you right now... can just be gone!
17:25 And even memories of things that happened a year ago
17:28 can be gone as a result.
17:30 And so, we really reserve this only for the very severely
17:36 depressed individual.
17:39 Fortunately, there's a new type of ECT coming up
17:42 actually utilizing powerful magnets that seems
17:46 to produce some of the same benefits without the
17:48 risks of depression.
17:50 And there, there's no seizure being induced;
17:52 it's not painful at all.
17:55 It's actually putting magnets on the head and the scalp
17:59 over the frontal lobe and other areas for
18:02 a 20-minute period of time...
18:03 And this is more preliminary research,
18:06 but it's showing that it might be just as effective as ECT
18:09 without the side effects.
18:11 Do they know why that works?
18:13 Well, there are theories as far as lining up the protons
18:17 and helping out there, but it's still under investigation.
18:24 So magnetic therapy... magnet therapy... Yeah
18:29 ...as a substitute for ECT. Interesting!
18:33 You have down here stress control measures.
18:35 This is VERY important.
18:36 About half of depressed patients are that way simply because
18:39 they have not coped adequately with their stress...
18:42 And we always put our depressed patients, if stress is a major
18:48 factor in there, we always deal with their coping
18:52 mechanisms of stress, and help counsel them...
18:56 very similar to cognitive behavioral therapy,
18:59 and how to deal with the stress.
19:00 So you identify what the stressors are,
19:02 and why they're there,
19:04 and then help them just get a handle on that. Yes
19:07 As well as dealing with the spiritual aspects of stress.
19:11 As far as appropriate planning is concerned,
19:13 many people are stressed out
19:14 just because they don't plan appropriately.
19:16 They have too much on their plate,
19:17 and they really aren't looking at things as far as
19:19 a day's activities, or a week's activities... ever do it!
19:23 And so appropriate planning is very important.
19:26 And then also, not being anxious about things that
19:29 you don't have any control over
19:31 is another important stress control measure...
19:36 And, in addition to that, the appropriate meditation.
19:42 Unfortunately, the world is using a type of meditation
19:46 that helps with stress control measures,
19:48 but actually suppresses the frontal lobe...
19:50 our decision-making lobe of the brain,
19:52 and that's the Eastern-type of meditation
19:55 where it's a self-hypnosis.
19:57 A type of balance meditation is active prayer to God.
20:02 This is where you can have the same benefit as far as
20:08 stress control is concerned as the Eastern meditation does,
20:11 but it's going to be a balanced form of meditation
20:14 that does not suppress the frontal lobe.
20:16 And like you said, if I recall, the frontal lobe is
20:21 where this depression really originates from...
20:24 that's what they're talking about. Exactly!
20:25 So if you suppress it, you're not really...
20:27 Wasn't it you that told me that in the brain, there are
20:31 100 billion neurons and they have to all be connected
20:34 in the frontal lobe is kind of the orchestra director...
20:37 That's right... it's the control center.
20:39 And so if you unconnect him, you might have some
20:42 benefits but that you really don't fix the conductor.
20:46 No, it's kind of like drinking alcohol.
20:48 Alcohol suppresses the frontal lobe,
20:50 but it makes some people feel better while
20:52 they're under the influence.
20:54 But unfortunately, alcohol is
20:56 going to end up causing depression.
20:58 It's one of the risk factors for depression in and of itself,
21:01 and the same I think is true of
21:02 the Eastern meditation techniques.
21:04 There are more short-term benefits,
21:05 but if we were to take a look at the long-term benefits,
21:08 if it suppresses the frontal lobe,
21:10 we're going to run into problems.
21:11 Okay, so if you really want to treat it, you need to
21:16 be involved with the higher power there...
21:18 God Himself with prayer, and focusing on that.
21:21 You mention also a few things about herbal therapies,
21:26 ginkgo and SAM-e... Tell us about those.
21:30 How do those help?
21:31 Yes, St. John's Wort has been shown in controlled studies
21:33 to be helpful for mild depression,
21:36 and I have used it in my practice in certain individuals
21:41 with success.
21:43 It can have some side effects as well.
21:46 We need to consider that these herbs act very
21:49 similarly to certain medications
21:52 and so we have to be alert to the side effects.
21:55 Ginkgo biloba is another one that can help.
21:57 It can also have some side effects in thinning the blood.
22:00 And then, third, the most popular is SAM-e.
22:03 It's a very expensive form of treating depression.
22:06 The SAM is "S" The "A" is adenosyl,
22:13 and the "M" is methionine.
22:14 Those are chemistry terms.
22:16 But the SAM-e has been shown to be very helpful in
22:20 those that have significant major depression,
22:23 as long as they're not bipolar or have manic depression
22:27 It can actually cause mania in susceptible individuals.
22:31 And you say it's expensive. Why... because you have to
22:33 form it in a laboratory or something... or what?
22:36 Well, it just hasn't been mass-produced enough,
22:40 and so you can buy it in your vitamin store,
22:43 or in your herbal store, or even your local pharmacy.
22:45 But to get enough, it takes 800 mg twice a day to
22:50 really help major rather severe depression,
22:53 and to get enough of that, would be about $250 per month.
22:57 Wow, yeah... that is expensive.
22:59 But I'm sure that some people would be willing
23:01 to pay ANYTHING to get over their depression.
23:03 Yes, that's true, and lower
23:05 doses can help as well in certain instances.
23:08 Now come back to this frontal lobe aspect,
23:11 and maybe we can just spend the rest of our time together,
23:15 we have about 5 minutes; let's focus in on that.
23:17 Since it's the major headquarters for this issue
23:21 of depression really, what should we do?
23:26 What can we say about it?
23:27 What should we do to enhance its function?
23:29 What should we avoid that decreases its function?
23:32 One of the things that I look at in any depressed individual
23:36 is "Are they living up to their conscience?"
23:38 You know the frontal lobe is the center of
23:40 spirituality, morality and the will.
23:42 This is what is really supposed to be directing us.
23:45 And if we are undergoing behaviors that are contrary
23:50 to what we know is right,
23:51 in order for us to feel okay about that,
23:54 we actually have to suppress our frontal lobe,
23:58 and, thus, our conscience doesn't bother us
24:01 as much, and we're not pricked as much.
24:03 And when we do this, we can end up with depression
24:07 as the end result.
24:08 Now that's not saying every depressed patient
24:10 is going against their conscience,
24:12 and that's why they got depressed,
24:13 but that could be a major hit playing a role as far as
24:17 the depression is concerned.
24:19 So you have to look for what their source of authority is
24:22 and whether or not they're living up to that.
24:23 What the people that live with say is right and wrong
24:26 and whether they're living up to that.
24:27 Yeah, the prophet Elijah is an example of that.
24:30 You know, he suffered from rather severe depression
24:33 but he ran away from Jezebel.
24:35 The Lord never told him to do that,
24:37 and finally, the Lord had to say... "What doest thou here?"
24:40 And so when a person is diagnosed with major depression,
24:45 I ask them, "What doest thou here?"... in a sense.
24:48 They need to reanalyze things.
24:50 Are they really living up to their conscience?
24:52 Have they done some things, and are continuing to do
24:57 some things that they know isn't quite right,
24:59 but don't know how to get OUT of that.
25:02 And that's where the spirituality comes in as well.
25:06 Enhancing the spiritual focus and actually providing
25:09 through divine intervention which is
25:13 extremely important in depression.
25:15 Having them take hold of the divine intervention
25:19 that can help them to change their lifestyle
25:21 so it lines up with their conscience.
25:23 So renewing their mind through the Bible promises,
25:26 and living up to the things they see in Scripture,
25:29 or within their source of authority,
25:31 and aligning themselves with that.
25:33 It's a very important aspect in treating depression.
25:36 So I imagine things, then, that we would want to avoid
25:39 that DON'T enhance the frontal lobe optimal functioning
25:44 would be like alcohol and caffeine and anything that...
25:47 Yeah, caffeine is a frontal lobe suppressant,
25:49 and caffeine has been shown to actually increase
25:52 the risk of depression, particularly when it's used
25:54 in large amounts.
25:56 What about watching comedy, and watching funny people on TV.
26:00 It seems like they'd all be laughing,
26:02 and they'd feel much better.
26:03 Well, for the short-term only.
26:05 Entertainment television actually suppresses
26:09 the frontal lobe of the brain.
26:11 It actually is a form of hypnosis if we were to
26:15 take a look at it real closely.
26:17 And as a result, it is NOT a good therapy as far as
26:22 depression is concerned.
26:23 In fact, it can actually LEAD to depression.
26:26 And so, if you're going to watch television,
26:29 you want to watch educational television.
26:31 And the way you can tell the difference is
26:33 pretty much instantaneous.
26:35 If there's a rapid scene of reference change,
26:38 every 3 seconds entertainment television
26:40 changes a scene of reference...
26:42 That is going to produce a hypnotic effect,
26:44 and it can lead to problems with the frontal lobe of the brain.
26:49 Educational television will stay on a subject
26:53 for a longer period of time,
26:54 as this program is doing fortunately.
26:57 And so there is no depression
26:59 of the frontal lobe that takes place
27:02 and you can learn from educational TV. while
27:05 utilizing the frontal lobe of the brain.
27:08 We've been talking to Dr. Neil Nedley
27:11 We've been talking about depression.
27:12 Let me ask you one question before we close out this program
27:16 and thank you so much for sharing with us
27:18 about depression today.
27:20 Can an individual that has trust and faith in God...
27:25 and is doing everything correctly, so-to-speak,
27:28 can that person, even though there are life stressors,
27:31 like losing a spouse, or this or that,
27:33 can they expect to live their life without major depression?
27:36 Even they can have major depression,
27:39 but the good news is they don't have to stay depressed
27:42 if they get on the good nutrition and lifestyle program.
27:45 We've been talking with Dr. Neil Nedley
27:47 We've talked about depression.
27:48 We've talked about what it is.
27:50 We've talked about how to avoid it.
27:51 How to prevent it. How to reverse it.
27:53 If you'd like more information, contact 3ABN,
27:56 and thanks for joining us today.


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