Participants: Zeno Charles - Marcel, Don Mackintosh
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000072
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00:44 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:46 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:47 And today we're delighted you're with us. 00:49 I'm also delighted that Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 00:52 from the Lifestyle Center of America with us. 00:54 Welcome, Doctor! 00:55 Thank you very much. 00:57 What an interesting name - Zeno Charles Marcel - is that French? 01:01 That is a French origin name. 01:03 The first name, Zeno, is actually Greek. 01:06 It's Greek, ok, what does it mean? 01:08 Well, it means a sign or a symbol. 01:11 A sign, it's a good sign that you're here today because 01:14 the doctor is in! 01:15 Tell us a just little bit about what you do, what you've done, 01:19 what the Lifestyle Center of America is. 01:21 Well, the Lifestyle Center of America is a residential 01:24 lifestyle program. 01:25 People who have chronic illnesses such as diabetes, 01:29 high blood pressure, heart disease, can come and actually 01:34 learn how to live so that they don't have to depend on 01:37 medications and so on. 01:39 Now not everybody can be taken off their medications but if 01:42 they can reduce the amount of medications that they have to 01:45 rely on and actually learn how to live better, feel stronger, 01:50 be more energetic, think better, do better in life totally. 01:54 If you're interested in the Lifestyle Center and what 01:58 Dr. Marcel has to say today and you want to get in touch 02:01 with him, maybe you have an internet right now and you can 02:03 get in touch and check things out while you're watching 02:06 here's a website for you: www. lifestyle center. org 02:11 all one word, lifestyle center. org 02:14 So I'll give that to you again so it's pretty easy to remember. 02:17 Today we want to talk about the best choices we can make. 02:24 And so we're going to entitle today's program: 02:26 Best Choice, isn't that right? 02:29 You actually are working, I think, on a series of books 02:33 with this same acronym as the title "Best Choice. " 02:37 What are the best choices we can make? 02:39 Well, if you look at it as an acronym, then each letter 02:44 stands for a different aspect of what we would call 02:46 total health. 02:47 And total health for anybody really involves the physical 02:52 dimension - the body, thinking, and emotions or mind and also 02:56 the spiritual dimensions. 02:59 So mind, body, and spirit. 03:00 So the total health involves all of this. 03:02 Working with the total health and helping people to regain 03:06 total health then we have this acronym. 03:09 I have worked on this little acronym so people can remember 03:13 the components. 03:14 The "B" stands for Balanced Nutrition. 03:17 And maybe we can talk about each one in a little while. 03:20 But the "B" stands for Balanced Nutrition. 03:22 Yes, and maybe if you're watching at home and you want to 03:25 jot down... just jot that acronym down. 03:30 Get your paper and pencil and just write down "Best Choice. " 03:35 And then just write down these tid bits as we go along. 03:39 But before we do that, you're a specialist in 03:42 internal medicine, is that correct? 03:44 Which just simply means what? 03:46 It means that I work with all kinds of chronic diseases 03:50 and acute diseases that does not involve surgery. 03:55 Ok, so you know a lot about all the internal organs and whatever 04:00 is happening there, that's really been your focus of study. 04:03 That's correct. 04:04 I'm also a sub specialist, if you will, in geriatrics. 04:08 And my practice, actually, focuses on a cluster of disease 04:13 that we call syndrome X. 04:14 Syndrome X - the so called deadly quartet. 04:16 That's correct. 04:18 Hypertension, diabetes, coronary artery disease 04:21 and obesity. 04:22 Ok, we're glad that you're here. 04:25 Let's go to the "Best Choice" and start working through that. 04:27 And you were starting with "B" for Balanced Nutrition. 04:30 Balanced Nutrition. 04:31 I'll just go ahead and list the things out. 04:33 "B" is for Balanced Nutrition. 04:35 "E" is for Exercise. 04:38 Everybody knows about that one even though not every one wants 04:41 to do it. 04:42 "S" is for Simple, Natural Remedies First. 04:48 Starting with the first things first we use simple, 04:51 natural remedies. 04:52 "T" is for Trust in the Creator God. 04:55 Ok, so that takes care of "Best. " 04:57 You're a Christian physician. 04:58 Yes sir. 04:59 Ok, great. 05:00 I know from where we come and hopefully we can get to where 05:05 we're going. 05:06 The "Choice" word: the "C" stands for cleanliness. 05:11 A simple concept but actually a very important - cleanliness. 05:15 "H" is for Hibernation - that is sleep and rest and things 05:19 like that and also for hydration. 05:21 When I sleep I don't know if I come close to hibernation. 05:24 But I like it when I wake up and it feels like I've been 05:27 hibernating. 05:28 You know, get refreshed. 05:30 The "O" is for Outdoor Activities. 05:36 So having a part of your life that you spend outdoor in the 05:39 fresh air, the sunshine, clean environment. 05:42 "I" is for Inner Peace. 05:45 We move from outdoor activities to inner peace. 05:48 We want to have peace and tranquility on the inside. 05:50 Stress reduction and things like that. 05:53 "C," the second "C" is for Connectedness or Community. 06:00 Now we are social beings and therefore to have this part of 06:04 our life actually enhances the way we were made. 06:08 "E" is for Elimination of Harmful Substances. 06:12 Ok, so we want to go back now and look more 06:14 specifically at these. 06:15 Let's look at "Balanced Nutrition. " 06:17 What does it mean to balance? 06:20 Do I have to have as many French fries in this hand as I have 06:23 hamburgers in this hand? 06:25 What are talking about? 06:26 We are talking about the best choice. 06:28 And what the best choice is about often times is leaving off 06:32 even things that might seem to be good and choosing what is 06:36 better and then leaving the things that are better and going 06:38 to what is best. 06:39 Sometimes we get side tracked by what we might say is ok to eat 06:43 or ok to deal with. 06:45 But there's another side to this as well. 06:48 Many people with the interest in getting a healthy diet, etc. 06:52 move from a position of what we call health reform - you know 06:55 reforming the health - to health deform. 06:59 They go to an extreme that was not intended. 07:02 I'm a product of the 60's and 70's. 07:06 During that time there were people who were saying, 07:09 "I'm going to be eating healthy and what-not. " 07:10 And what they ended up doing was just eating sprouts. 07:13 You know a whole diet of sprouts. 07:15 That is not a balanced diet. 07:18 Basically we're looking at a wide variety of fruits, grains, 07:23 vegetables, legumes, or beans and peas, and nuts. 07:28 This actually constitutes the best choice that anybody can 07:32 have for a balanced diet. 07:33 Now some people say that because you've eaten too many 07:37 carbohydrates and different things that they try and say, 07:41 "Well, you need to go off that for a while and go to a totally 07:45 or a very high protein diet to get your balance back and you 07:50 can be in a so called zone where you're balanced. " 07:55 What is your comment on that? 07:58 Well, there's lots of theories going about, lots of books 08:01 and money being made by people writing about these things. 08:05 The truth be told, people do get some benefit from going on these 08:10 various kinds of diets, there's no question about that. 08:13 On the other hand though we ought to look at what is 08:16 actually the best choice that somebody can make. 08:18 The way our bodies were meant to operate we need a fairly large 08:26 amount of the currency of the body. 08:28 The currency of the body is nothing but carbohydrates. 08:32 That's the primary currency that the body needs. 08:34 So when you say carbohydrate someone is probably is thinking 08:38 "I don't know what a carburetor is, I don't know what 08:40 carbohydrate is. " 08:41 What exactly is carbohydrate? 08:43 That's a chemical designation for a particular kind of 08:48 constituent in food. 08:50 It's what you would find in things you might call sweets 08:54 or sugars. 08:55 It's also what you would find in the starches - like potatoes, 08:59 and rice, and pasta, and things like that. 09:01 So it's those complex carbohydrates, that with the 09:06 fiber and everything? 09:07 Exactly. 09:08 And then the simple ones are basically sugars, honey, things 09:11 like that. 09:13 So we need to have... how much of our diet needs 09:16 to come from carbohydrates? 09:17 Probably about 55 to 65 percent of our diet should come from 09:21 carbohydrates. 09:22 And that carbohydrate should be what we call fiber rich, 09:26 as close to the way it comes on the tree as possible. 09:30 So complex. 09:32 But not the honey and the sugars? 09:35 There might be a place for a little bit of honey in the diet 09:39 a little bit of sweetness in the diet in the sense of the 09:43 natural sweetness. 09:44 You know fruits are naturally sweet and to have fruit in the 09:47 diet to sweeten the food that's more than reasonable. 09:51 That's actually very good. 09:53 Any health food store you go into has a section of all 09:57 kinds of different things. 09:58 But one section that they have that's a huge section is all of 10:01 these vitamin pills and mineral pills. 10:04 Do we need those? 10:07 For the most part if one is eating a balanced diet 10:10 they don't need to take all these things. 10:13 What's interesting we have the ability to take any kind of food 10:20 and break it down to its constituent parts. 10:23 The problem is even when we break it out to its constituent 10:27 parts, to put it back together and have it grow, 10:30 we can't do that. 10:31 So there is something that is beyond our reach when it comes 10:36 to what has been packaged in foods. 10:38 And that's a very important issue. 10:39 Whole foods that grows on a tree is different from even somebody 10:46 working with it in the laboratory and trying to put 10:49 all those constituents together. 10:50 Therefore, when we take things out of the food and give it as 10:54 supplements we're actually not fully receiving all the benefit 10:58 of what would have been obtained from having it in the food 11:00 in the first place. 11:02 So instead of having those parts and pieces, get the whole thing 11:06 The whole thing, that's right, that's the best choice. 11:09 We better move on because I know balance with nutrition, we could 11:12 talk about that all day, but... 11:15 "E" - Exercise, what about that? 11:19 Exercise is a relatively modern concept. 11:25 In the days when people used to go out and work and work hard 11:29 when they came in the evening they didn't say, "Honey, I'm 11:33 home, let me just relax for a little bit and then I'm going 11:37 to the gym and work out. " 11:38 No, you came in and you've already worked out. 11:40 But the kind of work that people did that was physically 11:45 active is what provided them with a large degree of health 11:50 benefits of just their work. 11:51 Basically what we're looking at, if we were to look at exercise, 11:55 is if the work entails aerobic activities, such as what we've 12:01 considered, running, walking, swimming, things like that... 12:03 We won't consider what we're doing work. 12:05 Oh, what we're doing sitting down here, no, this is not 12:07 work at all. - laughter - 12:09 We're not physically active, it's just our mouths are working 12:12 and our brains are working a little bit. 12:13 Even if we talked as fast as we could, it would not be work. 12:17 I wouldn't consider it so. - laughter - 12:19 Ok, so they have to get out and exercise. 12:22 Get out and exercise. 12:23 Get out and be active. 12:24 And from my point of view, a combination of flexibility, 12:28 strength training, and aerobic activity is what really 12:32 constitutes a good exercise regiment. 12:35 What do you do personally? 12:36 I know you talk about it but what do you do personally? 12:38 Personally, I walk. 12:39 I like to walk. 12:41 Mind you the way I like to walk is not just to get out there 12:45 and walk. 12:46 I actually take things with me. 12:49 I'm the kind of person if I can get two things done at the same 12:52 time I enjoy that. 12:54 Now some people they would walk and at the time that 12:56 they're walking they would meditate, they look at things, 13:00 I tend not to derive the most benefit 13:03 from doing things that way. 13:04 You're reading a book, you're listening to a tape, you're 13:06 doing different things? 13:08 Yes, that kind of stuff. 13:09 And actually my favorite thing to do when I'm walking is 13:12 actually go through my mail. 13:13 Because I become very efficient in tossing things - laughter - 13:18 when I'm walking. 13:19 You go down the street where there's a lot of waste baskets. 13:20 Ok, so exercise, how often a week and for how long? 13:25 About five times a week if one could work into their schedule 13:32 to have about an hour or so of physical activity a day. 13:36 five times a week, six times a week, that would work out well. 13:39 And at the Lifestyle Center, I've actually been able to visit 13:42 there once, they have beautiful trails and different things. 13:45 That's what they do when they come there, right? 13:48 We have outdoor activity on outdoor trails. 13:51 We also have indoor activities for when the weather 13:53 is inclement. 13:55 And also we tend to do a little bit more indoors simply because 13:59 in the controlled environment that we have, we're able to 14:02 measure things better indoors. 14:05 Sure, and then some people who come there are probably very, 14:06 very sick and they are just starting to exercise 14:11 and they want to be close to home. 14:12 Right. 14:14 But it's beautiful. 14:15 I've been there and it's on top a nice little mountain. 14:16 It's beautiful place. 14:18 I really like it there 14:20 "S" - Simple Natural Remedies 14:24 If we start off looking at first things first most people 14:28 who take care of the dietary habits and take care of the 14:33 physical activity or exercise, most people actually don't need 14:36 to take very much more. 14:37 You know what, we need to take a break. 14:40 We'll come back and simply look at Simple Remedies 14:43 when we come back. 14:46 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 14:48 shed a few pounds? 14:49 Have you been on a diet for most of your life? 14:51 But not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 14:54 If you've answered yes to any of these questions, then we 14:58 have a solution for you that works. 15:00 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 15:03 have written a marvelous booklet called, 15:05 Reversing Obesity Naturally, and we'd like to send it to you 15:08 free of charge. 15:10 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 15:13 by thousands who are able to eat more 15:15 and loose weight permanently 15:17 without feeling guilty or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 15:20 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 3ABN 15:24 and in this booklet they present a sensible approach to eating, 15:27 nutrition, and lifestyle changes that can help you prevent 15:31 heart disease, diabetes, and even cancer. 15:33 Call or write today for your free copy: 15:47 Welcome back 15:48 We're glad that you've joined us. 15:49 I'm talking today with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel. 15:52 And we're talking about the best choices that you can make 15:55 concerning your health. 15:56 We're going to talk a little bit more about where we left off 15:59 which was Simple Remedies first - try those first. 16:02 But I just want to give that web page again if you would like 16:05 more information about the Lifestyle Center of America. 16:08 You can go on the internet at www. lifestyle center. org 16:18 and it's a great web page. 16:19 It has all the information you need about time, schedules, 16:22 prices, location, personnel, everything you might need to 16:26 make that decision. 16:27 Dr. Marcel, we're talking now about Simple Natural Remedies. 16:34 Well, where we left off we were talking about if someone is 16:39 actually doing first things first - that is, they're eating 16:42 right, exercising, they're physically active, most people 16:47 won't need to do very much more to keep their health 16:51 or regain their health. 16:52 However, when you do come down with some conditional illness or 16:57 disease or whatever, particularly the chronic 16:59 illnesses, using the simple, natural remedies first 17:03 make the most sense. 17:05 So what are they? 17:07 Such as using herbs, using water therapy, changing the lifestyle, 17:14 of course that's first, and then looking at the use of 17:18 supplements and minerals and things like that. 17:23 And then on to medications, or surgery, or whatever. 17:29 So walk, water, all those different things first. 17:34 Now you said minerals and different things, and herbs. 17:42 What are some of the things that you use there at the lifestyle 17:47 center or do you? 17:48 We do and it all depends on what the person's condition might be. 17:51 Goo Goo Lipid? 17:53 - laughter - What's Goo Goo Lipid? - laughter 17:57 Have you never heard about that? 17:58 No, I don't know. 17:59 Lowering lipids and different things. 18:01 Oh yes, we have... 18:02 Some people respond very nicely. 18:05 If the lifestyle alone is not what's taking care of things 18:09 then we might use Guar or Psyllium or a combination 18:12 of the two and we get very good results. 18:15 So you know all those different things there if need be but you 18:20 start off simple and then get more in depth. 18:22 Ok, you have "Trust in God. " 18:24 What is science telling us about that? 18:26 We know that's something that is common in a lot of 18:29 religions, but what's the scientific evidence of that now? 18:33 Let me give you one little tid bit. 18:34 What has been shown in scientific studies, documented, 18:39 is that people who utilize their trust in the Divine, they do 18:44 better with regard to if they have a disease whether they 18:48 will do well with that disease and actually people avoiding 18:52 diseases. 18:54 So whichever way one would like to look at it, 18:57 trusting in God, having a growing relationship with God 19:01 actually is a health measure. 19:04 Now of course it has other benefits but it's also a 19:06 health measure. 19:07 Recently the New England Journal of Medicine 19:09 came out with an article that was kind of casting a negative 19:13 reflection on that. 19:14 I think it was kind of a backlash because that same 19:16 journal and others have come out with very positive things. 19:19 There seems to be sort of a "wishy, washy" approach to 19:24 spiritual issues but not at the Lifestyle Center. 19:27 Not at the Lifestyle Center. 19:29 You know, part of the issue is that scientists really have a 19:36 difficult time trying to think of how we can incorporate 19:40 this or whether we should incorporate this whether the 19:43 rank and file physician across the country should be meddling 19:48 in spiritual and religious things when it comes 19:51 to dealing with patients. 19:52 And I think part of the negativity, if you will, that 19:55 we find in literature has more to do with whether people 19:59 should, you know whether clinicians should or should not, 20:01 as opposed to whether people, that is patients, individuals, 20:08 the rank and file person, whether they should practice 20:10 religious practices and whether that produces a healthy benefit 20:14 or not. 20:15 Yes, and I think it's a good thing to think about. 20:19 You don't want to be conscripting someone in a 20:21 certain way or whatever, but you got to be who you are 20:24 and you got to share with people the strength that you've 20:27 received yourself with others as well. 20:31 Ok, "Choice," we need to look at that now 20:33 And we have "Cleanliness. " 20:35 Cleanliness, they say, is next to Godliness, but what is it 20:37 as a physician that you talk to about, as you're talking 20:41 to people about cleanliness? 20:42 What's important about that? 20:43 You might be surprised that such simple things as taking a bath, 20:47 or washing your face, and brushing your teeth, and 20:50 cleaning your body properly, these things might seem very 20:55 simple but they can go a long way, because many people 20:59 actually never learned or didn't learn properly, or become sloppy 21:04 as time goes on and they really don't take care of themselves. 21:07 A little bit of cleanliness in this sense, personal hygiene, 21:13 actually can go a long way in preventing a lot of infectious 21:16 disease and chronic... 21:17 Are you including dental cleanliness? 21:20 Yes, sir. 21:21 Dental cleanliness is very important. 21:24 We've made lots of strides in the dental field by just having 21:30 people brush and floss. 21:31 I've heard that there's a connection between 21:33 heart disease or diabetes, insulin resistance, and how 21:37 people take care of their teeth. 21:38 That's correct. 21:39 There's some evidence that there's an increase risk 21:42 of having a heart attack by not brushing your teeth and 21:47 not flossing your teeth well enough and it may be related 21:50 to an inflammatory response that develops because of some 21:53 of the bacteria that we carry in our mouth. 21:55 So if you can brush your teeth while you're watching the 21:57 program today, you might want to do that. 21:59 We're talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 22:01 from the Lifestyle Center of America. 22:03 We're looking at the Best Choice. 22:05 This is the acronym. 22:06 We move next now to Hibernation and Hydration. 22:11 Well, Hibernation - it's just a catchy word to let people be 22:16 aware that we need rest. 22:18 We need rest every day. 22:21 We need rest every week. 22:23 We need rest because the body functions best 22:26 when it has adequate rest. 22:27 How long should we hibernate? 22:28 Well, if we were to look at it from a daily standpoint, 22:32 we need to get a least 7 to 8 hours of sleep, quality sleep, 22:37 per 24 hours. 22:38 Before 12:00 at night or after? 22:41 It works better if a significant proportion of that occurs before 22:45 midnight. 22:46 And that has to do in large part to the cycle of hormones that 22:51 we have in our Circadian rhythm. 22:53 So by getting some sleep before midnight, actually getting 22:58 ample sleep before midnight, that actually allows the body to 23:00 do a lot of the repair work that it needs to do. 23:03 You have children, does this go along with your 23:05 hibernation principles? 23:08 Yes, they do, but they're children, so the parents, we, 23:12 my wife and I, we have to set the standard 23:14 and the tone for them. 23:15 "Hydration. " 23:17 Hydration - many people in the United States are actually 23:19 under-hydrated. 23:21 We don't drink enough water. 23:23 Water is the key word, good, clean, fresh water. 23:27 Now the use of water, going back to cleanliness, we should use it 23:31 outside to clean the body. 23:32 Water on the inside actually helps to clean the body as well 23:36 but it can actually do more than that. 23:38 It helps the chemical reactions in the body occur in a much 23:42 better fashion. 23:44 It also reduces the risk of heart attacks and strokes. 23:46 That was done in some research out in California at 23:50 Loma Linda University. 23:51 There is benefit to drinking water. 23:56 So water on the outside actually decreases the risk 23:58 of heart disease? 23:59 No, water on the inside. 24:00 Because of the fluid it causes and less breakdown of the cells? 24:05 We don't have the full mechanism but that is a 24:09 relationship that has been documented and presented in 24:12 scientific papers. 24:13 Ok, Outdoor Activities. 24:15 Outdoor Activities - that's fresh air and sunshine. 24:18 These are invigorating and health enhancing. 24:23 The fresh air, for instance, the negative ions in the fresh air 24:26 actually enhances a sense of well-being, improves the immune 24:30 system, and the immune system's response to infections, and 24:35 keeping things away, getting some air during the time that 24:38 you're asleep for instance, having the window just cracked 24:42 a little bit so that air, not a draft, just some clean air. 24:46 That allows you to actually get better respiratory function and 24:50 actually improves your rest. 24:51 I've heard that the air right after a thunder storm 24:53 is the best, is that true? 24:54 Yes, it has the most negative ions. 24:55 It even smells better! 24:57 If it's negative, it's positive for you. 24:59 That's right. 25:00 Inner Peace. 25:02 Inner Peace - You know stress is something that's everybody's 25:06 experience with stress, right? 25:08 The only people who we say don't have stress are 25:09 those who are dead. - laughter - 25:12 So that's not a good place to be either. 25:13 But inner peace is conducting one's self, and developing 25:18 the sense of who you are, where you are, where you're going, 25:22 so that you don't have to be stressed out by the things that 25:26 impact us and impinge on us all day long, all week long, 25:30 all year long. 25:32 So to be able to cultivate a sense of inner peace actually is 25:36 health enhancing and it settles the individual then they become 25:41 more responsive to things in their environment 25:44 rather than being just reactive to the things 25:46 in their environment. 25:47 We've got two more letters and about two minutes. 25:50 And that being Connectedness and 25:53 Elimination of Harmful Substances. 25:55 I think that the issue of Connectedness is one that 25:58 we're seeing more and more in scientific papers of people 26:02 belonging, being involved in society as a family. 26:05 This is very important for the development of children and 26:08 actually for the well being of everyone. 26:11 With regard to Elimination of Harmful Substances, I think that 26:14 should speak for itself. 26:15 There are things that we engage in that around in society that 26:20 really we shouldn't be doing. 26:22 We should get this out of our habits and remove them such as 26:28 tobacco, alcohol, various kinds of drugs. 26:31 These are not things that were meant to be a part of... 26:34 I was sitting on a plane once with a young man who looked like 26:37 he had been under the influence of every substance known to man. 26:40 I was telling him about health principles and he told me, 26:44 "Well, my four food groups are alcohol, tobacco... " 26:47 and he went on. 26:48 It was sad. 26:49 In avoiding those harmful substances. 26:53 You know as a Christian physician, we have about a 26:56 minute left, and that Inner Peace can't be something 27:00 that's manufactured or connectedness can't be either. 27:04 How have you found inner peace and what would you say 27:08 spiritually as a physician, to people as we close? 27:12 I would say that start off with some of the basics we've been 27:16 dealing with since childhood. 27:18 Which is open the Word of God. 27:20 Read for yourself. 27:22 Understand for yourself what God says about you. 27:26 I have learned to get my cues from what God says about me. 27:32 What He says directly. 27:33 I read the Bible as letters to me, they were to other 27:38 people too, but they are letters to me. 27:40 I take it very personally. 27:41 We've been talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 27:44 at the Lifestyle Center of America. 27:45 If you'd like more information contact them at their website. 27:49 Or call us here at 3ABN and we'll give you that information. 27:52 We hope today's program has helped you and 27:54 that as a result you will have health 27:56 that lasts for a lifetime. |
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