Participants: Don Mackintosh, Zeno Charles - Marcel
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000075
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00:45 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime.
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. 00:49 We're glad you're with us today. 00:50 And I'm also delighted to have Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel with us. 00:54 He is the medical director of the Lifestyle Center of America. 00:58 Now that's a mouthful. 01:01 Yes! 01:02 And yet it's a good mouthful! 01:04 Lifestyle Center of America is located in Oklahoma 01:08 midway between Oklahoma City and Dallas. 01:11 It's a great, easy place to get to. 01:13 There's a lot of good things that happen there. 01:16 If you're interested in getting in touch with the 01:18 Lifestyle Center of America the best place to contact would 01:21 be their webpage www. lifestylecenter. org 01:28 all one word: lifestylecenter. org 01:31 Or you could call us here at 3ABN and we'll give you some 01:34 contact phone numbers. 01:35 Today Dr. Zeno, we're going to talk about what you like to call 01:41 Total Health or The Health Iceberg. 01:44 And we hope that iceberg heats up. 01:46 But really an iceberg you can just see the top of it but 01:49 underneath there's a whole bunch of other things. 01:51 Maybe that's why you call it that. 01:52 Yes, that's correct. 01:54 Is total health like that, that what you see is not necessarily 01:57 what you get? 01:58 That's what it is. 01:59 A lot of times people are very interested in what the top might 02:02 look like - their health status. 02:04 And really the health status is nothing more than what we see 02:08 or what the person might experience. 02:09 And if he were to go to the doctor, the doctor would usually 02:13 tell you what your health status is like. 02:15 It's like a snapshot of how things are going. 02:17 That's just the top. 02:19 I mean, could you have someone that's very thin 02:21 that's very unhealthy? 02:22 Yes, you can. 02:23 People think that if you're slender that this is an 02:28 indicator of health and sometimes it is 02:30 but sometimes it's not. 02:32 People with cancer, for instance, can loose a lot 02:34 of weight and become very slender. 02:36 They might say, "Oh, finally I'm loosing weight. " 02:38 But is that the way you really want to loose weight 02:40 if you have cancer? 02:41 Can someone who's very overweight, 02:46 could they be healthy? 02:47 They could be moderately healthy. 02:50 But we believe that for someone to have total health that really 02:54 in the physical realm that they ought to have a weight that is 02:58 within what we would call normal and optimal for them. 03:03 And usually that is not overweight. 03:05 Now we want to look at what is sort of like a pyramid here 03:07 about total health, right? 03:09 Yes. 03:10 So is someone was drawing a picture at home, they would draw 03:11 a pyramid using these different words that we're going to use. 03:13 Is that right? 03:15 That's correct. 03:16 Which way do we want to work from the base or 03:18 from the top down? 03:19 Well, I think it's easier to start at the top and go down. 03:21 All right, let's start at the top. 03:23 What's the tip of the iceberg? 03:24 The tip of the iceberg is their health status. 03:26 When someone goes to the doctor and they want to find out how 03:30 their doing the doctor will usually ask them some questions, 03:33 get a history, do a physical exam, do some laboratory tests, 03:36 and then make a pronouncement. 03:38 As some people like to say, "A clean bill of health," right? 03:40 So the person gets a clean bill of health. 03:42 But have you ever heard of someone getting a 03:44 clean bill of health only to have a few days or a few weeks 03:48 later that the person has a serious problem like cancer was 03:52 diagnosed or a heart attack or they even drop dead? 03:55 Have you heard of that happening? 03:56 Oh, yes. 03:57 And then I've heard of others going to the doctor trying to 04:00 act like their healthy when they're not. 04:01 Fool the system. 04:06 The health status, the tip of the iceberg, is like a snapshot. 04:11 Now, what we like to delve into is what kinds of things favor 04:16 the health that the doctor would see or that you would find? 04:20 That's the second level which would be like what, habits? 04:25 Habits, that's precisely it. 04:26 If you can tell what habits people have then you'll be able 04:30 to tell whether or not they're likely to be fit or likely to be 04:35 trim or whether they're likely to be enjoying 04:38 good total health. 04:40 If you look at their physical habits, you look at their eating 04:43 habits, you look at what things they take, what things they 04:47 don't take, you look at their spiritual health, social life, 04:50 you look at all of these things you can more or less have a 04:53 pretty good idea as to whether this person is going to be 04:56 healthy or not. 04:57 So if you open up all their mail coming out of their house 04:59 you could probably tell if they're healthy or not? 05:01 I don't know if that would be enough to tell, but that 05:04 might give us a start. 05:05 And then you see how much they sleep, you watch their habits, 05:08 you watch them for a while. 05:10 Yes. 05:11 So as a doctor you have to get in touch with those types of 05:13 things very rapidly. 05:15 Do you have a way to go about that? 05:17 How do you figure out what people's habits are 05:19 when they come to your office? 05:20 At the Lifestyle Center we have a questionnaire that we have 05:25 patients fill out that's 18 pages long. 05:29 Can you believe that?! 05:30 18 pages? 05:31 18 pages of issues relating to their life. 05:33 The last page of that is actually for the person to 05:37 describe a typical day - what time they get up, 05:41 what they do as they go through the day, 05:43 and then what time they go to bed. 05:44 You would be surprised how much you can learn from something as 05:47 simple as that or as much as 18 pages of information. 05:51 Is that thing worded so that if they try and fudge in one area 05:53 they get caught in another question? 05:55 No, it's not like that. 05:56 But most people who fill it out, actually everybody fills it out, 05:59 they do a pretty thorough job and they get a copy of it 06:02 back if they want it. 06:04 Because for many of them this is the first time that they ever 06:07 sat down and really taken a self-inventory and have it 06:13 explained to them what these things might be in terms of 06:16 their impact on the person. 06:17 Someone has told me that an accurate diagnosis is about 85% 06:22 accurate health history. 06:24 Is that right? 06:25 It depends on what kind we're talking about. 06:27 But by in large that is true. 06:29 For some of the dermatologic illness, for instance, often 06:33 times the history is irrelevant. 06:35 You look at it, you see it, you say this is what it is and 06:38 that's it. 06:39 So, looking at the status first of all and it looks like that 06:44 snapshot but really that's not as good a snapshot 06:47 as looking at the actual habits. 06:49 Where do we go next? 06:50 Well, the next thing is for most people they find that even if 06:54 they know what things they ought to do to keep their health 06:59 optimal, or what things they need to do to gain or regain 07:04 optimal health, often times we have difficulty doing the things 07:09 we know to do, right? 07:11 People say, for instance, "I know I should be doing this 07:14 but... " 07:15 and they go ahead and do the things they shouldn't do. 07:17 That I would like to do that I don't do, I see another 07:21 thing warring against my flesh, that's what Paul says. 07:23 Exactly! 07:24 That's Romans chapter 7. 07:25 I'm glad that it doesn't stop in Romans chapter 7. 07:27 Even though it gives us a little bit of consolation that we're 07:31 not the only ones that went through that. 07:34 A part of what we all need to pay attention to is the fact 07:38 that knowing - just having the information about something is 07:41 often times not enough to get us the change. 07:45 Rather there's something below that's pushing our habits. 07:49 We have our habits formed to a large extent from the 07:53 people around us, from how we grow up, etcetera. 07:55 You see we inherit more than just genes. 07:59 So this would be our culture? 08:00 This is our culture. 08:02 So in other words, if we are Eskimos, for instance, they have 08:07 certain liabilities in their culture about what they eat 08:09 that's going to cause problems in their health. 08:10 That's correct. 08:11 Like what would that be? 08:12 I don't know if you know about Eskimos. 08:13 Yes, I know some about Eskimos. 08:15 First of all Eskimos don't have a lot of fresh fruits and 08:18 vegetables in their diet. 08:20 And therefore they tend to have some of the 08:22 B vitamin deficiencies and so on that is associated with that. 08:25 They tend to, because of the amount of fish that they do have 08:31 in their diet and some of the fats that they have, 08:35 if they get a stroke the kind of stroke tends to be a 08:38 hemorrhagic stroke as opposed to the kinds of strokes we have 08:41 in this country. 08:42 So someone like me, you're looking right at me, you're 08:44 doing a snapshot in your mind, your saying this is a white, 08:47 Anglo Saxon, Protestant it looks like, so called wasp, 08:50 what are my liabilities in my culture? 08:54 It mostly depends on what part of the country you're from 08:56 Ok, I'm from Kansas. 08:58 You got real problems, call the ambulance! - laughter - 09:03 No, what's wrong with me? 09:07 Rather than making it personal for you, I would suggest 09:13 that we start with the inner circle. 09:16 Because people's families tend to have certain things 09:19 that they do. 09:20 It's what is called "normal. " 09:22 See, in your family it might be done this way, in the family 09:26 next door, same kind of activity but they do it differently. 09:30 In one family people may sit down and eat and in another 09:33 family it's catch if you can. 09:34 Those two will have different effects on the individuals 09:38 growing up. 09:39 We sit down and eat - so how am I doing? 09:40 Ok, that's better. 09:41 You are spending time with calm, quiet composure as you eat 09:46 actually is very beneficial to your health. 09:48 Eating on the run tends not to be as good on the digestion. 09:50 So the big point is looking at those health habits. 09:54 What we do around our family table, 09:57 what we are used to doing. 09:59 These things are important. 10:01 Additionally we inherit such things as attitudes. 10:04 In some families the attitude to what's exercised is one that 10:08 is very positive - people like to go outdoors, they bike or 10:13 they run or they hike, things like that. 10:15 In other families, as Mark Twain said, "Every so often he gets 10:19 an overwhelming urge to exercise. " 10:22 You know the rest of the story? 10:25 "But then he quickly lies down until it passes. " - laughter - 10:27 In some families this is the idea. 10:31 Exercise and physical activity is really not emphasized a lot 10:35 and therefore, people growing up in that environment, 10:38 by and large, will tend to pass that on to their children and 10:44 actually have that be a part of their attitude. 10:46 I was in a family the other week where the man said, "You know I 10:49 always feel bad for these joggers. " 10:51 He had just moved to America, he was from a different culture. 10:54 He said, "I always felt bad, here they are running, it seems 10:56 someone is out to get them, they're after them. " 10:58 He was stopping them and offering them a ride to where 11:01 ever they want to go. 11:02 They found out they just didn't want a ride. 11:04 So, from his culture this was really not going to be helpful 11:07 with his exercise program. 11:08 This is not talking about ethnic cultures or this kind of thing. 11:15 It's talking more about the habits of a family or 11:19 people group. 11:20 That's right and it actually involves some of the ethnicity 11:23 and some of the regency. 11:24 We can start with the family, then we can go to the 11:27 neighborhood, and we can go from the neighborhood to the part of 11:30 the town that you live, you can go from the part of town that 11:33 you live to the city, to the part of the country that you 11:37 live, to the country that you live even to the region 11:39 in the world that you live. 11:40 Because all of these things kind of interplay with each 11:45 other for people who live in a particular place to think that 11:49 what they're doing is actually normal. 11:51 True or False - America is a high risk culture? 11:55 Depends on what you are talking about. 11:57 Health wise - yes, because of the so-called 12:01 Western lifestyle. 12:02 But that is changing - fortunately that is changing. 12:03 If you are to look at the American culture from the point 12:07 of view of cleanliness and hygiene, that's much better 12:11 than in some places where that is a major issue. 12:14 If you look at opportunity for exercise and reasonable food, 12:19 etcetera, in the United States we can get just about anything 12:23 to eat that we want. 12:25 The problem is we also have an attitude about food that goes 12:28 beyond eating just for health. 12:30 We have an attitude of eating for pleasure, eating for value. 12:34 You know when people go into a buffet restaurant, they change 12:40 from being ordinary people on the street, right? 12:42 When they walk through those doors they want to put those 12:44 folks out of business. 12:45 They want to get their money's worth. 12:47 I shouldn't say "they" I should say "we" 12:49 because we are all in it. 12:51 And they do get their money's worth. 12:53 You are what you eat. 12:55 Ok, so we're looking at our pyramid here - we got "status," 12:58 that's that snap shot. 12:59 We got "habits," you get that from what kind of 13:02 a health history - what do you do day in and day out. 13:04 But then more than that, where did you get your habits, 13:06 that being your family group, your people group, your country 13:09 group, your ethnic group, your geographical location 13:12 group, whatever. 13:13 Right. 13:14 Ok, so we kind of moving down the pyramid. 13:17 Now here's the thing. 13:18 When we look at culture we have a phenomenon that everybody 13:22 might be familiar with in some way or another. 13:26 This I call the "Uncle Harry" situation. 13:29 Uncle Harry is that person in a family that folks don't 13:33 talk too much about. 13:34 Ok, Uncle Harry, we want to come back to Uncle Harry. 13:36 We're talking with Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel 13:39 and he's going to talk about Uncle Harry. 13:40 So if you want to know about Uncle Harry you better come back 13:43 and join us after the break. 13:47 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 13:49 shed a few pounds? 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15:00 That's correct 15:01 We're glad that you're with us. 15:03 He's the medical director of the Lifestyle Center of America. 15:06 And that's the same thing you would put in if you were looking 15:09 up their webpage: www. lifestylecenter. org 15:13 So if you'd like to find out more about their program, 15:16 and different things you can do that. 15:17 We're talking about health and total health today 15:19 We're seeing there's more than just what meets the eye. 15:22 There's more to the iceberg than just the top as those on 15:25 the Titanic wanted to really know before hand, right? 15:27 That's correct. 15:28 They learned to late, but today we're finding out where the 15:30 icebergs are so we don't hit them. 15:32 That's correct. 15:33 So we've moved down the pyramid with the first one being our 15:36 health status, that's when you go to the doctor office, they 15:39 take your EKG, blood pressure, pulse, history, 15:42 and that kind of thing. 15:43 That's just one piece of the puzzle. 15:46 You said you need to go deeper than that - look at the habits. 15:48 You have the 18 page questionnaire, a lifestyle 15:51 questionnaire that shows what are your habits. 15:54 The next part of the pyramid is your culture. 15:56 And that doesn't just mean ethnic group, although 15:59 it can be that. 16:00 It can be more or less your family patterns of doing things, 16:04 how you eat, sleep, drink, whatever you do. 16:08 But that can be geographic and everything else. 16:11 So that's the next step on the picture of who we really are - 16:15 why we are what we are. 16:16 You were mentioning, when we left, Uncle Harry, but we left 16:19 him hanging on the wall. 16:20 Who is this Uncle Harry? 16:22 The way we see Uncle Harry is if you were to look at a 16:27 picture of an extended family. 16:29 Uncle Harry might be the guy standing in the back who isn't 16:32 dressed exactly the same way as everybody else. 16:35 He's got the plaid pants on. 16:36 Yes, right. 16:37 And when people are saying, "This is Dad, this is Mom, 16:40 and this is cousin so-and-so, or this is uncle so-and-so, 16:43 and aunt so-and-so. 16:44 They tend to forget Uncle Harry. 16:48 Even though he has plaid pants on. 16:49 Even though it's obvious there's something going on here. 16:52 And typically, someone looking at this will or they see several 16:56 pictures, they will say, "Who is this guy?" 16:59 And the answer is, "Oh, that's Uncle Harry," 17:02 and they go on to the next page. 17:03 You want more information. 17:04 Why is he so different? 17:06 What is this guy all about? 17:08 Well, let me ask you, in your family, if you're to 17:11 look back at your family tree for 4 or 5 generations, 17:14 is there a dominant pattern of occupations in that family? 17:21 Well, we all eat, does that count? 17:23 Well, that's one. - laughter - 17:24 I'm a fourth generation pastor, does that count? 17:30 Yes, that counts. 17:31 So, in your family if you were to look at, I assume it's mainly 17:36 the males in the family that become pastors? 17:38 Yes, we don't have any lady pastors. 17:40 I think they would probably be the "Aunt Harry!" 17:44 - laughter - So they're the "Aunt Harriet!" 17:49 But if you look down, that is the dominant feature. 17:54 Right. 17:55 The expectation in some families is that if there's a son that's 18:00 born, he'll be a pastor too. 18:01 If that is the thought, then to have one of these young men 18:06 decide to become a plumber might be considered strange. 18:11 "Why is he doing that?" 18:13 Nothing wrong with being a plumber is there? 18:14 There is nothing wrong with being a plumber, but in that 18:18 family if the expectation was for pastors, then plumber 18:22 is different. 18:23 In my family I remember coming home from one of these 18:28 graduations where you had to fill out what your 18:30 secret ambition is. 18:31 You know what I put down? 18:33 No. 18:34 An auto mechanic. 18:35 Now anyone that knows me is laughing right now because 18:37 they know all my cars end up on the engine reserve list. 18:40 When I got home and that year book came out and I had 18:44 put down auto mechanic, everyone in my family just looked 18:47 at me like... 18:48 What's wrong with you, right? 18:50 - laughter - But that's the idea you see. 18:56 So being "Uncle Harry" is not bad. 19:00 In some cases it might be. 19:01 But by in large the issue is being different. 19:05 Now where I come to this understanding with regard to 19:10 culture is that we all have "Uncle Harry" in us. 19:13 Because we all don't do things exactly the way our parents did. 19:17 We all want a little of it, we want to have those plaid pants, 19:19 we want to be those auto mechanics, we want to be 19:21 those plumbers, forget being those pastors! 19:23 So we do something a little bit different, ok? 19:25 By doing things a little bit different it shows what's below 19:29 this culture. 19:30 You see culture does not determine everything 19:32 that we are. 19:33 There is something below that. 19:34 And that's our own minds - our psyche and our will. 19:39 Now are we getting to the bottom of the iceberg? 19:41 We're not at the bottom yet. 19:42 But here is an area where individuals actually have a 19:47 choice to make in determining what's going to be happening 19:50 in their future. 19:51 In this case we're talking about health but it has 19:53 wide implications for all other aspects of life as well. 19:57 So, are our values and our psyche... 20:01 How can we change those things if they're wrong? 20:03 What if we're a type of person that wants the bread and pudding 20:07 but now we need to move to broccoli? 20:09 All right, well you see there's where we have to come a little 20:11 bit lower again. 20:13 And there's where we get to the bottom of this iceberg. 20:15 The bottom of the iceberg is actually our world view. 20:19 Now world view is nothing more than the way we see ourselves 20:24 fitting into the world and the way we see the world 20:26 impacting on us. 20:27 It's where we are, who we are, what we are, where we came 20:30 from, where we're going. 20:31 In our best moments, when we sit and reflect as to the meaning 20:36 of life - this is where we are residing. 20:39 We're residing in this place that we call our world view. 20:41 Do you think that most people do that in some sense 20:43 some time in their life? 20:44 I think most people have a period of time in their life 20:47 where this is an issue. 20:49 As a matter of fact, for some people they get to this point 20:52 when they're sick. 20:53 They have to take inventory and they get to the point of 20:57 thinking, "Why am I alive anyway?" 20:59 Right? 21:00 Now in this area, this world view area, I see three points 21:04 that are pivotal in people's understanding and appreciation 21:08 of what this is about. 21:10 This is the bottom of the iceberg. 21:11 And we are three points at the basis of the iceberg. 21:15 1. HOPE 21:17 2. MEANING 21:21 3. PURPOSE 21:25 See people have to have a purpose for living. 21:29 As we say, if someone comes to see the doctor and they don't 21:35 have a reason for getting up in the morning, pretty soon 21:37 they won't be getting up in the morning. 21:39 The story is told over and over again of husbands and wives. 21:43 Of course they've been married for 67 years, husband got a 21:48 stroke, wife is taking care of the husband, the children 21:50 say, "Come and live with us," the wife says, "No, no, I can 21:54 can take care of Dad, we'll do fine, we get around here, 21:57 we do all right. " 21:58 Husband then dies. 21:59 The mom says, "I'm not going to come anywhere, I'm going 22:03 to take care of things here at home. " 22:04 But Mom within a year, doesn't have a purpose for getting up 22:09 in the morning, within a year Mom dies. 22:12 Why? 22:13 Now this doesn't always happen but it's often enough 22:15 that we have to ask the question. 22:16 Part of the reason is that if Mom doesn't have a reason 22:19 to get up in the morning, Mom is not going to get up 22:22 in the morning. 22:23 For us, it may not be an issue of life and death like that. 22:28 But if we don't have a purpose for living, why live? 22:32 If we don't have a purpose to be healthy, why be healthy? 22:35 The second issue is that of meaning. 22:39 What's the meaning of life? 22:40 What's the meaning of living? 22:42 That's related to purpose but it's not the same. 22:44 It's not the same. 22:45 Another issue of course, along the same lines in that meaning 22:49 is, if I were to get sick, or if something were to happen, 22:53 what's the meaning of that? 22:54 Is it trying to tell me something? 22:55 Is there something bigger than meets the eye? 22:59 This is the idea of... for instance some people say, 23:03 "Well, you know this happened therefore, it's giving me a 23:05 warning that I ought to take care of x, y, or z. " 23:08 It's like little cues and what you ascribe to it. 23:14 Some people say, "Well, it's just coincidence," and others 23:19 say, "It's luck. " 23:20 But many people go beyond that and they say, "You know what, 23:23 I think there is something here that's beyond that 23:26 that I'm being stimulated to do something different. " 23:29 My grandfather when he moved in with me, I took care of him 23:32 when he turned 86 or so, he'd get up in the morning and say, 23:35 "I guess the reason I'm still here is for you boys. " 23:39 And then when we would do something good he'd say, 23:42 "That means everything to me. " 23:44 Those were the kind of things. 23:46 When we graduated from school then he died. 23:50 Yes, then he felt like he had met the goal. 23:53 Now this is not an issue of self determination or anything like 24:00 that or kind of like a pre-conditioned... it's just 24:03 that the way human beings are. 24:05 We have an engine, a purpose, and meaning, two parts that 24:12 help drive that engine. 24:14 The third part is that of hope. 24:16 Now the word "hope" might be a little difficult for some people 24:20 to work with because we use it in other ways. 24:23 We say, "I hope this will happen or that will happen. " 24:27 But really having a sense of hope is really having a belief 24:31 that tomorrow is going to be better than today. 24:33 Or belief that the next minute is going to be better than 24:37 this one. 24:38 If we lack hope the researchers show people who don't have hope 24:45 actually have more illness. 24:46 People who have a hopeful attitude, these people tend to 24:51 flourish with their health. 24:52 Remember that story of Jesus where He was with the two 24:54 disciples and they were going along and they were discouraged 24:56 because they thought He had died. 24:58 And then they said, "We were hoping this wouldn't happen. " 25:02 They were hopeless. 25:04 And then He kind of switched them around. 25:06 Is that what you try to do there at the Lifestyle Center? 25:08 You try to switch around people's hope? 25:11 One of the biggest things that we can do for people is actually 25:14 to help them restore, if they had hope and then they lost it, 25:18 or if they had not had hope before to gain hope. 25:21 That there is something that they can do. 25:24 There is a way to look at life. 25:25 There is a way of looking at yourself and looking at your 25:29 relationship to everything to all that is created 25:33 that allows you to look what's a better tomorrow. 25:36 That hope is actually based on nothing less than Jesus Christ. 25:42 And people have to discover that don't they? 25:44 They have to discover that. 25:45 In my view you don't force this on somebody. 25:49 You don't push it, you don't shove it down their throats. 25:51 Actually they come to the point of saying, "Yes, I understand 25:55 there is something to life, there is something bigger 25:57 than me. " 25:59 Now, when this happens and their world view changes, the 26:03 world view pushes the will, changes the values. 26:08 The person is now able to do the things that they thought 26:11 they couldn't do before. 26:12 They are willing to confront their culture and take other 26:16 things from their culture and hold onto those that are health 26:21 enhancing and reject and put aside the things that are not 26:25 health enhancing. 26:26 This in turn will change their habits. 26:29 They find almost effortlessly - almost - that they are now more 26:34 inclined to do what they thought they should have done 26:37 because it's the right. 26:39 They do the right thing for the right reason. 26:42 And this ultimately will reflect in what happens 26:44 to their total health. 26:46 It would be a complete switching of the iceberg. 26:49 That's correct because as you start with the bottom 26:51 this becomes the root and the health that you experience, 26:55 the total health you experience, now that becomes the fruit. 26:58 And that's what we need, fruitful lives. 27:01 That's right. 27:02 Completely repositioned. 27:03 That's what you've dedicated your life to. 27:05 Yes. 27:06 You know as I study the story of Christ and how He related 27:09 to His apostles and disciples that's really how He dedicated 27:13 His life to as well. 27:15 And in that story in Luke where He was with the disciples 27:18 and remember how they were all discouraged and depressed 27:21 and this whole thing turned around. 27:23 They didn't know who He was. 27:25 And then it was like He came to them as a cardiologist 27:28 and said, "Let Me open the Word to you" and defibrillated them. 27:32 They started being happy and they turned the world 27:33 upside down - completely turned around. 27:37 We hope as a result of today's program you'll go out there 27:40 seize the day - turn the world upside down and 27:42 you can address the real issues at the base of the 27:44 mountain so that everything else makes sense, give meaning, 27:47 purpose, and hope. 27:49 If you would like to contact us about this program 27:51 or about the Lifestyle Center of America 27:53 we hope that you do call us. 27:54 We hope that as a result you will have health 27:56 that lasts for a lifetime. |
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