Health for a Lifetime

Weight Reduction Pt. 1

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Participants: Don Mackintosh, David DeRose

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00:45 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:46 I'm your host Don Mackintosh
00:48 and you're in for a real treat today
00:50 We have with us Dr. DeRose from Lifestyle Center of America
00:54 I'm glad that you're with us, David.
00:56 Good to be with you, Don.
00:57 What do you do there exactly
00:58 at the Lifestyle Center of America?
01:00 Well actually, I work with a team...
01:02 It's a great privilege to work with a team of
01:05 Christian health professionals who really try to
01:07 move people not in the direction of using more
01:10 medications and drugs,
01:11 but actually looking at what can we do with lifestyle.
01:16 What kind of simple things can we take advantage of
01:18 that can make a difference in our health.
01:20 And so people come to our center with conditions like
01:23 heart disease, diabetes, weight problems, high blood pressure.
01:27 They come with risk factors, high cholesterol...
01:30 They come with concerns about diabetes in a family member
01:34 ...I don't want this to happen to me.
01:36 And so, these are the kind of issues that motivate people
01:39 that come to our center.
01:40 We work with them in a residential setting.
01:43 We help them get on an excellent exercise program,
01:45 a good diet... and all that is done under a medical umbrella.
01:49 I, as an MD, other physicians on our staff work with them, nurses
01:54 We have a dietician there.
01:56 We have an exercise physiologist
01:59 ...a team of exercise trainers.
02:01 So really, a whole range of people...
02:03 professional health educators...
02:05 so really try to give a very well-rounded experience
02:08 in a short time.
02:09 It's a beautiful location too.
02:11 I've been there... sort of up on the mountain there
02:12 and it is a nice setting.
02:15 You know, one of the big concerns that people have today
02:17 is their weight... at least it would seem.
02:20 Is this a big problem in America?
02:22 I mean, it's really a tremendous concern from a
02:25 public health standpoint.
02:26 Don, in the last 10 years, the average American
02:29 has gained 8 pounds.
02:30 So, as our viewers are sitting here watching,
02:33 and if they've gained more than that,
02:36 that's above the average, but the point is
02:37 the average person is gaining and with weight gain,
02:40 comes increasing risk of certain types of cancer,
02:44 increased heart disease risk,
02:45 increased problems with osteoarthritis...
02:48 the wear and tear arthritis that can affect hips,
02:51 and knees, and ankles, especially when you're
02:53 bearing a lot of weight...
02:54 high blood pressure, diabetes, all on that list
02:58 of problems that RISE as our weight rises.
03:01 Why are we gaining weight like that?
03:03 Well, the evidence points to our LIFESTYLE!
03:07 I mean, our genetics really haven't changed... Um hm
03:10 Our lifestyles have though.
03:11 We're sitting in front of the TV a lot more...
03:14 We're driving a lot more.
03:16 I mean, I can even remember as a kid...
03:17 Now maybe this is dating me, but we could walk to the
03:20 grocery store Sounds unheard of...
03:23 Why would you do that? Yeah it's crazy, isn't it?
03:25 But that was not uncommon.
03:28 What do we do today?
03:29 We get in our cars, and we drive here, we drive there.
03:31 What kind of work do we do? Um hm
03:33 We're a HIGH TECH society...
03:35 we're sitting at desks, we're doing office jobs,
03:38 we're in the service industry.
03:40 You know, we're working with the internet and the media.
03:43 And all these things, many of these TREMENDOUS
03:46 technologic advances... but what's happening to us
03:49 as far as lifestyle?
03:50 We're getting more sedentary, more inactive...
03:52 and then our diets... Are our diets getting better?
03:56 Ahhhh BIGGER, but not better.
03:58 Bigger, yeah, but not better.
04:00 That's what tends to happen.
04:01 What about young people...
04:02 I've heard a lot about, you know teenagers that even are now
04:06 getting big. REAL concerns, real concerns,
04:09 And one of the AREAS that really highlights this is DIABETES
04:12 because both inactivity, poor dietary choices,
04:16 and weight gain, all contribute to that diagnosis.
04:19 The adult-onset diabetes... that's what we used to call it
04:22 We can't call it that anymore.
04:23 We call it diabetes type 2, or type 2 diabetes.
04:26 WHY? There are kids as young as 5 years old, in America
04:30 that have type 2 diabetes! Oh man!
04:33 That is sad! So what's the answer?
04:36 I see at the end of my street...
04:38 before I, you know, came down here, got on the plane,
04:40 traveled over here...
04:42 It says, "Lose 30 pounds in 3 days" or whatever 30 days...
04:47 Is that the answer?
04:48 Unfortunately not.
04:50 I mean, it's bad news to a lot of people listening to us
04:53 but people WANT the quick fix.
04:55 You get motivated... you know we're going to be talking about
04:57 how you can trim down a little bit on the program today
05:00 and someone is going to say "YEAH, 30 pounds"
05:03 They come to our center that way, Don.
05:05 They come to our 19-day program,
05:07 and they want to lose 50 pounds!
05:09 We've only had one person lose 40 or 50 pounds
05:12 in our 19-day program. Um hm
05:14 Was that through amputation? Ha, ha, ha
05:18 Actually, it was against our medical advice.
05:20 He got so excited about some fasting early in the program...
05:24 he felt that he was called to do a 40-day fast.
05:28 Now this might sound like an amusing story,
05:30 but we were having to work with him and make sure
05:33 he got nutritional supplementation...
05:35 I kept discouraging this guy.
05:37 We use short fasts... they have a role in a number of
05:40 disease states. By short, 3-5 days.
05:43 And he left our program after 19 days, still determined
05:47 he was going to stick with this 40 day fast.
05:49 And believe me, we were praying for him.
05:51 And we're glad that he felt, because he had a number of
05:54 other problems, that he shouldn't continue that fast...
05:57 I heard about a week later, when I talked with him,
06:00 that he had come off the fast.
06:02 Boy, that... so diets and this type of thing is really...
06:05 It's not the BEST way to go about it.
06:08 The reason why it's such an excellent example,
06:10 is because I was trying to tell this guy...
06:12 Yeah, it's fine, you can lose a lot of weight with a total fast,
06:15 but it's DANGEROUS, it's RISKY...
06:17 And we were checking blood on him, and he had us scared
06:20 because... you know we let people kind of run their own
06:22 show when they're at the Lifestyle Center.
06:24 If someone doesn't want to fast, you know, they don't have to.
06:27 If someone wants to fast for 19 days, we never once
06:30 FORCE food into this guy's mouth.
06:32 But we were concerned.
06:34 The point was, he hadn't learned the optimal lifestyle when he
06:38 went back home.
06:39 So it was kind of an artificial thing where
06:42 you can't really LIVE that way forever.
06:44 That's right, and that's what many of these diets are, Don.
06:47 Even though it's not a total fast,
06:48 people say, "Look-it. Hey! graduation is coming,
06:51 family reunion is coming, 25th high school reunion is
06:55 coming, I'm going to LOSE the weight;
06:56 I'm going to wear that dress;
06:58 I'm going to, you know, LOOK really trim"... good for that
07:00 and die the next... Yeah! That's it.
07:03 And then they go out and binge the next day.
07:04 Don, when I work with patients,
07:06 I'd rather have them make small changes,
07:09 that they're going to stick with... than HUGE CHANGES
07:12 that there's no possibility they're going to stick with
07:15 for the rest of their life.
07:16 Oh man... So, really, it takes a long time to gain the weight
07:21 It's going to take a while to get rid of it.
07:23 Definitely, and you DON"T WANT to just lose the water
07:26 and lose the fat and the muscle with it.
07:28 If you lose weight rapidly like on a fast,
07:30 you are losing muscle mass.
07:32 Protein... You're losing protein
07:34 And MUSCLE MASS is what drives your metabolism.
07:38 This is one of the reasons why people tend to yo-yo.
07:40 You lose the weight rapidly...
07:42 it's going to tend to come back on,
07:43 and you're going to tend to gain even more.
07:45 So, you don't want to lose the protein...
07:46 So do we need a high protein diets?
07:48 You know, a lot of people think that's the solution.
07:51 The high protein diets are very scary to a lot of us
07:54 in the public health arena.
07:56 The reason why...
07:57 If you look at the foods that people are eating,
07:59 not only do these foods RAISE some of the more recently
08:03 appreciated heart disease risk factors,
08:05 at least the research indicates they SHOULD,
08:08 I haven't seen anyone study these diets in that respect...
08:11 Like homocysteine, a well-appreciated risk factor
08:15 now for heart disease.
08:17 What about cancer risk?
08:19 There's a body of research literature that suggests
08:22 as we increase our animal product consumption,
08:25 we increase our risk for cancer.
08:28 What about kidney risk?
08:29 Kidney risk is a concern because animal protein
08:32 seems to be hard on the kidney.
08:34 So there's a LIST of concerns.
08:36 A very interesting concern was raised by researchers at the
08:39 "Massachusetts Institute of Technology"
08:41 The Workmans, brain chemistry researchers there,
08:44 raised this concern with the high protein diets...
08:46 High protein diets seem calculated to LOWER
08:51 a good chemical in your brain called "serotonin"
08:54 Oh... that's not good.
08:55 ...People are taking drugs to raise serotonin today.
08:58 You know, the Prozacs and Effexors, and things,
09:00 they RAISE serotonin... they help fight depression.
09:03 Here's the concern the Workmans have...
09:05 People stick with these high protein diets for a while,
09:08 and they're suggesting it's going to increase
09:11 their likelihood for relapse.
09:12 It's going to decrease their mood over time...
09:15 and they're going to throw in the towel and not stick with it.
09:17 And there's a common scenario...
09:18 whether it's the brain chemistry linkage,
09:20 or just getting sick and tired
09:21 of having bacon and eggs 3 times a day.
09:24 So that the main things against the protein diet
09:27 are #1... what it does to your body itself.
09:31 There are long-term concerns... there are long-term concerns
09:33 And you can't live that way...
09:34 Isn't that sort of like a starvation diet?
09:37 I mean, that's the other thing,
09:38 if someone really tells me...
09:39 "Hey Dr. DeRose, I'm going to stick with this diet
09:41 for the rest of my life"
09:42 And I say, "... You know, I'm worried"
09:44 because all of the cancer literature...
09:47 I mean, a while back I looked at, you know,
09:49 over 100 studies that looked at fruit and vegetable
09:52 consumption in cancer prevention.
09:54 Almost without exception, Don, those studies show
09:57 ...Eat more fruits. Eat more vegetables...
09:59 You decrease your risk of cancer. Um hm
10:01 It's not that way when it comes to meat, and animal products.
10:04 And that's what these people are pushing.
10:05 So they say, "I want to lower my weight, I want to look better"
10:08 "Hey, I even lowered my cholesterol"
10:10 ...some of them are finding on these diets.
10:12 But what's happening to your cancer risk?
10:14 CANCER is going to be the leading killer of Americans
10:17 in the near future!
10:18 Heart disease rates coming down.
10:20 Stroke rates coming down.
10:21 And I'll tell you, when it comes to the leading cause of death,
10:24 cancer is going to be on the top of the list
10:26 and I am VERY much afraid of pushing these animal products
10:30 that tend to be associated in all the population studies
10:33 with higher cancer risk.
10:35 What's the real issue with people that
10:36 have a problem with weight?
10:38 Do you find that it's just the weight,
10:39 or is there something deeper?
10:41 Well you know Don, the FIRST thing I like to emphasize
10:45 when we talk about weight concerns is that
10:48 God accepts you right where you're at.
10:51 You know, a lot of people today have labels stuck on them
10:55 because you're carrying some extra weight...
10:57 And when people come to the Lifestyle Center of America
10:59 we don't try to put a guilt trip on them...
11:02 We don't try to say... you know
11:03 Or belittle them or anything... Right, right, not at all.
11:06 What we try to do is we...
11:08 Listen, these are our brothers and sisters
11:11 and they've got struggles... I've got struggles too!
11:13 It may not be a weight struggle, by the way, just for the record,
11:16 it's not... you know, you don't have to worry,
11:17 I don't have anorexia... Okay I don't feel I'm overweight.
11:20 But here's the issue...
11:22 Don, if someone can't accept the fact that
11:24 God accepts them JUST the way they are.
11:27 That they don't have to lose 50 pounds,
11:29 or 100 pounds, or 200 pounds to be okay in God's eyes...
11:32 then they're working at a huge disadvantage
11:35 because the STABILITY in any lifestyle change comes
11:39 when someone recognizes that there's a loving Creator
11:42 a loving Redeemer who wants to
11:44 help them to achieve optimal health.
11:47 So as a Christian physician there,
11:49 and the Christian physicians at the Lifestyle Center,
11:51 you find that these types of things start to come up
11:54 it's really... some of these issues
11:56 Very common, very common in our society... think about it
11:59 We put labels on people...
12:01 And you know what, you CAN'T SEE a lot of problems.
12:04 You can't see a lot of weaknesses in people,
12:06 but you can see when someone has a weakness
12:09 that's contributed to weight gain.
12:10 Now I SAY that also putting one other thing in the equation
12:14 And that is, a lot of people with weight-gain tendencies
12:18 ...maybe even all of them, Don, have other things
12:21 in their background that they can't control...
12:24 Genetic factors, early life history factors,
12:27 factors in your mother's womb...
12:29 I mean... affect our body weight today...
12:32 affect our tendency to be heavy, or to be thin,
12:34 our risk of diabetes, and other diseases...
12:37 What do we have to do with that? ZERO
12:40 And it doesn't really mean... Just because I'm thin,
12:42 or you may be thin, or that we really are that healthy, does it
12:45 Not necessarily.
12:47 The interesting thing is, if someone says,
12:50 "Look at... I recognize there are problems in my lifestyle
12:54 that's one of the reasons why I'm carrying extra weight"
12:57 Don, that's where I want the focus to be
12:59 Because those lifestyle changes not only help us to
13:02 trim down, they increase the quality of our life
13:05 they give us other dividends.
13:07 We're talking with Dr. David DeRose
13:09 from the "Lifestyle Center of America "
13:10 He recently has just, along with his team, published a paper
13:14 on some of the things we're talking about today.
13:17 They have a lot of resources, and resources about
13:19 this dialog we're having today.
13:22 If you'd like to get in touch with them,
13:23 you could contact them at the Lifestyle Center of America
13:26 web page at WWW.lifestylecenter. org
13:30 or you could contact us here at 3ABN and we can
13:33 get you in touch with Dr. DeRose or the others there
13:36 on his excellent staff.
13:38 Maybe you have a problem with weight...
13:40 maybe you know someone that does...
13:41 Give them a call and join us
13:43 when we come back to the second half.
13:44 We're going to look at what those lifestyle factors are
13:46 that we should be focusing on are...
13:49 how we can address those in ways...
13:51 how they do it there at the Lifestyle Center...
13:53 how YOU can start to make changes now
13:54 So join us when we come back!
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14:59 Welcome back... we've been talking with Dr. David DeRose
15:04 from the Lifestyle Center of America
15:05 and we've been talking about a major concern in America
15:07 that being obesity, or being overweight.
15:10 And we've talked about some of the issues that are involved
15:13 with the magnitude of the problem,
15:14 about how to address it...
15:16 And about what NOT to do, protein diets, yo-yo diets,
15:20 whatever!
15:21 But we want to look now a little bit more at lifestyle factors.
15:24 What really should we be looking at...
15:26 What do you look at there at the Lifestyle Center of America
15:28 What can our viewers start to look at,
15:29 even today, in their lives?
15:31 Well I mean, the 2 biggest factors that people
15:33 ALWAYS talk about are diet and exercise.
15:36 And Don, I can see people listening to the show
15:38 and ohhh... they'll yawn, and oh diet and exercise again, right?
15:42 But you know, there are a lot of things
15:43 about diet and exercise that people DON'T keep in perspective
15:47 Such as?... I'll tell you the most important one
15:49 You know, I used to be the medical director of a large
15:52 hospital-based weight loss program...
15:54 There in Orlando, Florida, I used to see lots of people
15:57 that came to our programs, and I'll tell you...
16:01 One of the things that struck me was one of the root problems
16:05 when it comes to eating...
16:07 Is that most people don't know the difference between
16:10 hunger and appetite. Hmmm
16:14 Can you relate to that? I can relate to that. Okay
16:17 A lot of people CAN'T.
16:18 You know, in fact, when I first heard the concepts
16:20 some 20 years ago, I said... "What... way?"
16:22 Hunger and appetite... Aren't they the same thing?
16:25 When I use the term "hunger" I'm talking about a TRUE
16:29 physiologic need for food that your body senses.
16:33 When I talk about appetite,
16:35 I'm talking about a desire for food that MAY
16:38 or MAY NOT be in harmony with your body's true needs.
16:42 How do you tell the difference?
16:44 A very important question!
16:45 You know, you wouldn't ask that question of an infant
16:48 on this show, would you?
16:49 No, they'd just start to cry and you'd know... That's right!
16:53 Actually, the interesting thing about infants
16:55 is they know the difference.
16:57 You try to get an infant to overeat... what do they do?
17:00 You know, they spit it out, turn their head away... Right?
17:03 Right. Well, I'm looking forward to that... Yeah, I know you are.
17:08 Let me tell you what's interesting...
17:09 What happens to us as we go
17:12 through this social acculturation, if you will...
17:15 we start to learn to eat not for hunger...
17:20 You know, you skinned your knee... here, have a cookie!
17:22 You got a good grade on your report card...
17:24 Here have an ice cream cone.
17:25 Yeah! It's hey, Johnny's having his birthday...
17:28 He brought cupcakes to school!
17:30 We learn to eat for all kinds of reasons beside hunger...
17:34 And so we've lost the sense...
17:35 So how do you learn the difference?
17:37 You've got to start listening again.
17:40 Dr. DeRose, people tell me...
17:42 "How can I start listening again?"
17:44 Several things have to happen, Don,
17:46 if people want to learn to tell the difference.
17:48 #1- They've got to slow down... Slow down.
17:52 Be in touch with themselves.
17:53 Be in touch with themselves! Okay
17:55 You know, most Christians have a tradition of praying
17:58 before they eat... Um hm
18:00 Pray to the LORD to help you NOT to overeat.
18:03 Pray that God would give you insight into knowing
18:06 when your hunger is satisfied. Um hm
18:09 Slow down the temple of eating...
18:11 You know, my wife was telling me, when she was in high school;
18:14 she was at a school... it was a boarding high school,
18:18 and they had a work-study program...
18:20 And she had something like, you know, 15 minutes
18:22 to get to the cafeteria to eat, and to get to her
18:25 next assignment.
18:26 Now this is common in America.
18:28 And how can you slow down when you're eating
18:30 on a 15 minute lunch break? I don't know... You can't.
18:35 You gotta take time to eat.
18:37 How do people... what kind of practical suggestions
18:40 can we give them? Have you heard any... yourself
18:42 when people talk about slowing their temple of eating...
18:45 I've heard zwieback... I've heard different things
18:49 that can be... Zwieback is very dry toast
18:51 that will make you slow down that you can't do it.
18:54 You know, even John Harvey Kellogg,
18:55 he had all these ideas of how to masticate SLOWLY
19:01 and to count the number of times you chew your food.
19:05 That's one of the techniques.
19:06 Some of the folks that go through our program at the
19:08 Lifestyle Center, they say, "Yeah, I learned to chew
19:10 20 or 30 bites, or 40 bites each time... "
19:14 I think that's kind of artificial... personally.
19:16 But if that works for someone... hey, go ahead and do that!
19:19 What's more practical if it comes to chewing,
19:21 is chew the food until it's a creamy consistency in your mouth
19:25 I mean, that's a little bit more realistic.
19:27 And if you're eating dry toast, or zwieback,
19:29 I mean, you're going to really have to chew the food
19:31 for quite a while, right? Right
19:33 Another technique... AGE-OLD technique when it comes to
19:36 weight reduction programs, is put your utensil down
19:39 between bites... you know, get out of this mode of, you know,
19:41 kind of just shoveling the food into your mouth.
19:43 Now talking to you, it seems like you would
19:45 be one that eats rapidly...
19:47 It does seem that way, doesn't it?
19:48 But you know what? I believe in rhythm in life, Don
19:52 All right... And there are times when we need to be energetic
19:55 and we need to be going, and going full-steam...
19:57 And there are other times when you can just kind of cool down
19:59 and relax, and mealtime is one of those times.
20:03 And you slow down... you just... That's the time when I slow down
20:05 as much as I can. Ha, ha, ha... okay good!
20:10 Any food choice? Oh exercise!
20:13 Wait... I don't want to slip away from this hunger-appetite
20:15 because you asked such a good question... This is a BIG one!
20:17 It's a BIG one. All right, go ahead.
20:19 And... I've got a favorite story All right
20:23 Again, it happened to my wife, she's a great lady
20:25 She's also got some great stories...
20:27 And she may not watch this, so you'll be okay... Yeah I'm safe
20:30 But she was invited out to eat,
20:32 and this is not an unusual occurrence,
20:35 I mean, she's a very charming person... so
20:36 But anyway, she was invited out to eat before we
20:38 got married, even... this was some time ago
20:41 And she was sitting there eating a delicious meal prepared
20:45 The hostess was there, and her 2 children were there at the meal
20:48 But, you know what, there was a problem...
20:50 It was getting to be time for dessert, and you know what?
20:54 Johnny still had his celery stick on his plate...
20:58 Can't have that... We can't have that but
21:00 you know, she was a good hostess;
21:01 she didn't want to make everyone wait for apparently
21:04 healthy dessert, and so she brought out these cookies.
21:07 And so everyone is eating the cookies EXCEPT Johnny
21:10 because he still has the celery stick on his plate.
21:15 Finally, Johnny says, "Mommy could I please have a cookie?"
21:19 She said, "Johnny, not until you eat your celery stick. "
21:23 "But mommy, I don't have room for my celery stick. "
21:27 "Johnny, then you don't have room for a cookie. "
21:31 "Mommy, you don't understand, I don't have a big, long place
21:35 in my stomach for a celery stick
21:37 but I got a little round space for a cookie!"
21:39 Ha, ha, ha, ha... Why do I tell that story when it
21:42 comes to differentiate hunger from appetite?
21:45 JOHNNY may just not have liked celery, but on the other hand,
21:50 it may have been his appetite that was calling for a cookie.
21:53 You know Don, appetite usually calls for specific foods.
21:57 So if someone's wondering whether it's hunger or appetite,
22:00 and they're wanting to have their 4th serving of the
22:03 vegetarian lasagna, say... you know, it's a HEALTHY food!
22:06 Why can't I have 4 servings?
22:07 Try the "substitution test"
22:10 if you're wondering if it's hunger or appetite.
22:12 If it's hunger, you'd be willing to eat anything that's
22:16 an acceptable choice for you.
22:17 Maybe you don't like celery sticks as well,
22:20 or carrot sticks, but if you're HUNGRY,
22:22 you'll eat those if that's all that's available. Right
22:24 But if you say, "NO" I'm only hungry for lasagna!"
22:27 Then that's appetite...
22:28 That's almost always appetite.
22:30 So just another little...
22:31 If you want the kale and the kumquats and the... cassavas,...
22:34 you're probably okay... probably okay
22:36 But if you switch and it doesn't work...
22:40 That's right... that's just a little technique
22:42 I'll tell you one other technique as we're talking
22:44 about this because I believe if we were to say
22:47 there is one principle more important than any other...
22:49 is the "hunger-appetite principle"
22:51 Now some people think I'm taking liberties with this, Don
22:54 But I want to just... before I tell you this last technique
22:57 I want to tell you... Ah, I don't need to tell you
23:01 You know about this... What?
23:02 Our Lord, when He was there in the wilderness.
23:05 What was he first tempted on? FOOD!
23:07 Food... Turn this stone into bread.
23:10 Now, like I said... some people will say I'm taking liberty
23:14 but I believe that our Lord overcame for us
23:18 in the wilderness on the subject of appetite.
23:21 That God wants to give us VICTORY in that area.
23:25 He wants to give us, not only insight but power.
23:27 But you know, power is of NO GOOD unless we
23:30 recognize the need for the power.
23:32 So He wants to show us... He wants to help us
23:34 differentiate between the 2 and to trust in Him.
23:37 Let me give you that other
23:38 remedy now... Okay, what's the other one?
23:39 That's DRINKING WATER between meals, not WITH our meals.
23:46 You know what happens when people drink beverages
23:48 with their meal?
23:49 It takes longer for the food to digest... It does, that's true.
23:53 If you dilute the contents of the stomach,
23:56 stomach emptying is slowed... That is true. All right
24:00 But it ALSO provides an incentive... if you will
24:04 not to chew the food thoroughly. Hmm
24:06 People WASH their food down! Yeah, that's right.
24:08 And so NOT having the beverage at the meal,
24:11 drinking our water between meals...
24:14 So we HAVE to chew it... That's what we want to do.
24:16 It has to become salubrious.
24:20 And all the saliva has to be there
24:22 and masticate it, and it's chewed up. That's right.
24:25 Improves digestion, slows their temple of eating.
24:27 Allows the Lord to communicate with our brain...
24:30 Tell us when our hunger is satisfied,
24:31 and then He gives us the POWER to stop eating.
24:34 Drop the drinks! What about exercise?
24:36 Is that something we should do?
24:39 It's vital, Don. It's VITAL.
24:41 Listen... He slows down to drink there
24:43 Exercise... You know many people today, and I have to share
24:48 a little bit of research from the Lifestyle Center.
24:50 This is a paper that we presented at the
24:53 "American College of Sports Medicine" in June 2000... Okay
24:57 And it got a lot of attention there, and it's continuing
25:00 to get attention because what we found is that
25:03 NOT all exercise is equal when it comes to weight loss.
25:08 Okay, what's the difference?
25:09 Now most people think... it's stupid, of course NOT all
25:12 exercise is equal.
25:13 You know what we found at the Lifestyle Center?
25:15 We actually did... what we call "prospective research"
25:19 We got a group of people from the community,
25:21 who were volunteers to be in an exercise study...
25:24 ALL of them were sedentary.
25:25 None of them were exercising before the study.
25:27 We divided them into 3 groups.
25:29 One group is what we call the control group.
25:31 They just keep being inactive.
25:33 The second group... continuous aerobic exercise
25:36 That's the kind of the mantra
25:37 in the exercise field today. Right?
25:39 Just keep doing it, do it, stick with it,
25:42 keep your heart rate up!
25:43 The other group, we put on what we call...
25:46 "interval training exercise"
25:48 Short bursts of exercise like 30 seconds
25:52 followed by 30 seconds of rest.
25:54 I could deal with that... You could deal with that.
25:56 Our patients can deal with it... You know what happened?
25:59 The ones on the interval training program
26:02 lost triple the weight. WOW!
26:05 They lost triple the weight AND they lost body fat.
26:09 The group exercising continuously did not.
26:13 Remarkable!
26:14 So a little dab will do ya.
26:15 And you know what, Don?
26:17 In the Garden of Eden, God gave Adam and Eve
26:20 USEFUL exercise.
26:22 They were to dress the Garden and to keep it.
26:24 I DON'T THINK Adam and Eve were checking their pulses.
26:26 Out there for 8 hours... doing a marathon trim job.
26:30 When we do useful work, we do interval training!
26:33 And this research is validating that you don't have to
26:36 KILL yourself in the gym to lose weight.
26:39 And you will lose weight if you kill yourself in the gym.
26:42 We have about a minute left...
26:44 Summarize what we've said thus far, doctor, if you can
26:47 and just other hints concerning weight reduction...
26:50 so we can just GET STARTED on that path.
26:54 Okay, to get started on the path of weight reduction,
26:56 we want to be mindful of how we eat.
26:58 Slow the temple of eating.
27:00 Ask God to give you insights into when your hunger is
27:03 satisfied and stop eating.
27:04 If you've got a question, just stop.
27:06 And exercise doesn't have to kill you...
27:09 of course tongue-in-cheek, but moderate exercise
27:12 is good! Gardening is GOOD when it comes to weight reduction.
27:17 We've been talking with Dr. David DeRose
27:19 from the Lifestyle Center of America
27:22 If you're like me, you've learned a LOT in this
27:24 short program that we've had together.
27:26 You want more information if you're like me.
27:27 Let me tell you how you can get that information.
27:29 First of all, you can contact Dr. DeRose and the others
27:32 there at the" Lifestyle Center of America" by contacting
27:35 them at their web page, WWW.lifestylecenter. org
27:40 Organization - org
27:42 Or, you can call us here at 3ABN and get their contact
27:46 information here from us.
27:47 They have handouts that go with all of these types of
27:50 presentations like you are seeing today...
27:52 And we hope that, as a result of what you've learned here,
27:55 and in contacting them,
27:56 you'll have health that lasts for a lifetime.


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