Participants: Don Mackintosh, David DeRose
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000082
00:45 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:46 I'm your host, Don Mackintosh, and today, I'm delighted to have 00:50 Dr. David DeRose with us from what... 00:52 Oklahoma, The Lifestyle Center of America 00:54 That's exactly right; that's home for me 00:56 ...has been for about 4 years. 00:58 Now, I drove down there recently and I saw these signs for 01:02 the Chickasaw Nation. 01:03 What's that all about? 01:04 Well actually, Oklahoma used to be called Indian territories. 01:09 So we have very deep roots in Native American traditions, 01:14 and Native American peoples. 01:16 A number of our staff members have Native American roots. 01:19 One of our board members, I know, has Native American roots 01:23 So, it's something that's really part and parcel of Oklahoma 01:27 Not just that, many different places, of course, 01:29 up the road a little bit, I drove through a town called 01:32 "Wichita" which is an Indian name, 01:34 and the so-called "Chisholm Trail" 01:36 with Jesse Chisholm who spoke about 14 or 15 different 01:38 Indian dialects. 01:41 The only reason I mention that is because today, 01:44 we're going to be talking about Native American health practices 01:48 and I know that there may be many Native Americans watching 01:51 3ABN in those areas, and this will be something, 01:53 of course, especially interesting to them, 01:55 but I think that it can benefit the rest of us too, I hope. 01:57 You've published something on this, 02:00 or you've given some talks on this subject? 02:01 Actually, we presented a paper at the 02:04 American Public Health Association meeting... 02:06 It's the largest meeting of public health 02:10 and preventive medicine professionals. 02:11 Each year this meeting takes place, and in 1999, 02:15 in Chicago, we presented a paper dealing with 02:19 2 Native Americans who came to our program; 02:22 one of them was a tribal leader. 02:24 Both he and his wife had diabetes. 02:28 He also had blood pressure problems, cholesterol problems 02:31 Miraculous things happened when he came to our program 02:34 at the Lifestyle Center of America. 02:36 He is just one, of probably some now 50 or 60 Native Americans 02:41 who have come through our program. 02:42 As I've worked with Native Americans, 02:44 as I've traveled to some of the reservations, 02:46 and presented talks... including just recently 02:49 I was out in Arizona speaking to the medical staff of 02:52 one of the Indian Health Service Hospitals, 02:54 they're excited about what scientific research is showing 02:58 that REALLY SAYS that the program that 03:00 God gave us in His Word is something that ironically... 03:04 ironically to some people, Native Americans had many 03:07 insights into before they even KNEW about the Bible! 03:11 So you're suggesting that maybe their health practices 03:13 are not only scientific when they look at the roots of them, 03:17 they also have a Biblical basis. 03:18 That's right and this SHOCKS people, Don 03:20 I gotta tell you, because in public health circles, 03:23 when you say Native American, you know what they think? 03:25 They don't think "health," they think "disease" 03:27 They think "alcoholism. " 03:29 They think "diabetes. " 03:30 They think... diabetes in Native Americans 03:34 I mean, this is a HUGE problem. 03:36 But what we're finding at the Lifestyle Center of America, 03:38 when Native Americans go through our program, 03:41 they can reverse their diabetes. 03:43 What the research is showing is that 100 YEARS AGO 03:46 ...Well, let me give you an example. 03:49 Have you heard of the Pima Indians in Arizona? 03:51 I haven't but... That's okay What's it called again? 03:54 The Pima Indians... Pima! 03:56 The Pima Indians are probably the most well-studied 03:59 population group in the world when it comes to diabetes. 04:02 You should have heard of them but that's okay 04:04 I know it's a little out of your field. 04:05 In fact, our National Institutes for Health, 04:08 for those of our viewers that don't realize this, 04:11 this is the big RESEARCH ARM of our government. 04:14 They fund research; they do their own research. 04:16 Based there in the Washington, DC area 04:18 they have a branch of the National Institutes of Health 04:23 in Phoenix, Arizona... ... Studying this group 04:26 Studying this group in particular. 04:28 What they found in looking at records over the last 100 years, 04:33 back around the turn of the century, around 1900, 04:36 1 case of diabetes among Pima Indians. 04:40 Wow, so some BIG changes came from some reason. 04:42 In the 1940s... How many? 21 cases 04:47 TODAY, today... 50% of Pima Indians, 04:53 over 35 have diabetes. Amazing! 04:56 If we look at the historical records, Don, 04:58 Native Americans seem to have excellent health before 05:02 European influence, and they were also following a program 05:06 that I believe is VERY, very similar to the kind of program 05:09 that God wants us to follow today to optimize our health. 05:14 And it WASN'T because Native Americans were reading the Bible 05:17 So how did they get this... 05:19 I mean some Christians out there or different people that are 05:21 Christian, you know, and also scientific-type people 05:25 are saying, "Wait a minute, it's one thing to say that they 05:29 have these diseases that have come because of 05:31 Western lifestyle, but it's quite another to say 05:34 that they had some kind of divine revelation that came. 05:37 How can you make a case for that? 05:39 To me, the interesting thing is that Native Americans 05:43 traditionally have had several very important roots 05:47 in their culture. 05:49 One is a strong sense of respect for the Creator 05:53 and for creation. 05:55 A very healthy respect for their bodies, 05:58 and for all of nature... And the environment. 06:00 And the environment, yes. All of nature. 06:03 The laws that God has given us in the Bible 06:06 have that same respect throughout. 06:10 God is desiring to help us to optimize this blessing of life 06:15 that He has given us. 06:16 And even... To me, the argument that I make, Don 06:19 The argument I say to people... 06:21 They say, "Look-it, even if Native Americans didn't have 06:24 a divine revelation of this, and some would argue that... 06:27 I mean, some Native Americans would say, 06:30 "God was leading our people, even though we didn't have a 06:32 Bible, and I believe that God DOES speak through nature 06:36 and He communicates in other ways, 06:38 although the PERFECT revelation 06:40 is clearly through His Son, and through His Word. 06:43 He has been communicating through His spirit, 06:45 through revelation. 06:46 In fact, the book of Romans, right? Romans 1... 06:49 It says that, "Everyone's guiltless cause God has revealed 06:53 His character... where? 06:54 Everywhere in nature... Yeah, in nature, in what He's created 06:57 So here's the argument I make... 06:59 Regardless of where it comes from, 07:01 Native Americans traditionally seem to have some insights 07:05 into optimal healthful living practices... 07:08 But here's the bottom line, this is exciting! Really exciting! 07:12 People today, when I work with them, 07:15 they say, "Dr. DeRose, it's not going to work for me. " 07:17 "I got bad genetics. " 07:19 "My dad had this. My mom had this. " 07:20 "My grandfather had this. " 07:21 "I can't help it. I'm going to get diabetes, heart disease. " 07:24 "I'm going to have amputations, dialysis, stroke... whatever!" 07:26 Native Americans show us that even in a people group, 07:30 that is predisposed to disease, like the Pima Indians, 07:33 they didn't have that kind of disease in 1900 07:37 on their more traditional lifestyle... 07:39 It had changed even by that time. 07:41 Here's the point... No matter what genetic 07:43 hand you've GOT, LIFESTYLE can make a tremendous difference 07:47 And there is ongoing research in Native Americans 07:49 including OUR work at the Lifestyle Center of America 07:52 that says... even if you've got 07:54 Even if you're not a Native American; 07:56 if you've got a lousy hand, genetically dealt to you, 07:58 you can change it, and that's the amazing thing. 08:02 And Native American practices, these are things, many of them 08:07 and I'm not, you know, putting my seal of approval on 08:10 everything that was done by any Native American tribe. 08:13 You know, you can go out and get dream catchers, 08:15 and all the other stuff, even though... 08:16 Well, I'm not here to point, good and bad in everything. 08:22 Even in my cultural traditions, I have European 08:25 cultural traditions. 08:27 We could pick out some things that aren't so desirable. 08:29 But I want to focus on the positives, 08:31 and when I speak to Native Americans, there are so many 08:34 things in their cultural traditions that are POSITIVE 08:37 that help all of us. 08:38 So did they have a basic plant-based diet? 08:41 I mean, you usually think of Indians out there 08:43 on the back of a horse or a buffalo shooting another buffalo 08:47 or this or that, and many times you see these pictures 08:49 and all going and getting the kill. 08:52 Was it a plant-based diet, or 08:54 was there a lot of meat in the diet? 08:55 This was a shock to me, Don. 08:57 When I started working more with Native Americans 09:00 in Oklahoma, and I have to tell you, I really had 09:02 very little experience with native Americans 09:04 before I moved to Oklahoma, 09:06 and to the Lifestyle Center of America. 09:08 But, I started visiting; you know, reading 09:13 historical documents, traveling, speaking on reservations 09:16 like I said... It's amazing! 09:19 Throughout the country, you look at the Coastal Indians 09:22 on the northeast, the southeast... 09:25 You look at the Indians in Wichita, you mentioned 09:27 There is an early account of a Spanish explorer 09:30 in the 1500s, who comes into Kansas. 09:33 You think you know the plains. Yeah... Buffalo, right? 09:36 Indians, bows and arrows, and rifles on horses... Right? 09:40 Catching the buffalo? 09:41 Hey! Those were all European introductions. 09:44 The rifle and the horse? 09:47 Traditionally, what did the Spaniards find? 09:50 They found FIELDS of corn, and squash, and 09:54 an agriculturally-based society in the DESERT in Arizona! 09:59 The whole desert was irrigated. 10:01 The Hohokam people, the ancestors of the Pimas 10:05 had the whole desert irrigated. 10:06 Aerial photographs of the Phoenix River Basin today 10:11 still show shadowy lines of irrigation canals. It's AMAZING! 10:17 Agriculturally based, but then when the Europeans came... 10:20 Yes, some of the Plains Indians shifted their diet 10:23 to a meat-based diet when they could hunt much more 10:25 efficiently with horses and guns. 10:28 Interesting. So now some people that are listening today say... 10:30 "Wait a minute, not only do I disagree" and you already 10:34 cleared up this disagreement, that maybe they're plant-based 10:36 and you've certainly spoken to that eloquently... 10:38 But they might say, "I'm a Christian, and even in the Bible 10:41 it doesn't say I can't eat meat. " 10:42 What do you say to a person like that? 10:44 You know what, at the Lifestyle Center of America, Don 10:47 we never tell anyone they can't eat meat. 10:49 People come to us because they have medical problems, 10:52 and we say, "Look-it, we have you here for MAYBE 19 days" 10:56 That's the longest program we offer... we say, 10:58 "Look-it, we want to see the maximum results 11:00 in the shortest time. " 11:02 And we do use that plant-based diet, a vegetarian diet 11:05 because that, in our experience, and in the medical research 11:08 that we've reviewed, and some of the research we've done, 11:10 that gives quick results. 11:12 When people go back home, I've had Native Americans 11:15 who have gone home, and they follow a total vegetarian diet. 11:19 There was a woman, a Sioux woman; 11:21 they refer to themselves as "Lakota" 11:24 She actually went back to her tribe. 11:27 She had me speak out there, on her reservation, 11:29 and she adapted a total vegetarian diet to all the foods 11:34 that were readily accessible there in her culture. 11:36 Other Native Americans have gone back and they say, 11:39 "Look-it, it's important for me to have some wild game" 11:42 but you know what? 11:43 Wild game is actually very low in fat. 11:46 Buffalo? You have any idea how much fat is in buffalo meat? 11:50 Percentage-wise? You mean wild buffalo meat? 11:55 Yeah, a wild buffalo... wild game. 11:57 Are there even wild buffalos left? 11:59 There are. You know, they're protected like in 12:04 natural protected areas. 12:07 I wouldn't probably eat it because I'd be afraid of 12:10 the disease and different things It's not really inspected. 12:13 Well, I wasn't trying to get you to eat it. 12:15 I was trying to get you to hazard a guess as to how much 12:17 fat is in their tissue. 12:18 What would you say? 12:19 Well let me give you a frame of reference. 12:21 Lean, ground beef, baked, EXTRA lean ground beef, 12:26 only about 60% fat. 12:28 So what do you think buffalo? 40 12:32 15... 15% fat? That's all. 12:36 So, I mean, if you were going to choose meat, 12:38 and you're watching your fat consumption, 12:39 which is very important when it comes to diabetes, 12:42 animal fat seems to be a factor in the development of diabetes. 12:47 Hey, if you're going to eat fat... Yes, wild game is 12:49 really a pretty good choice. 12:50 Deer is less than 20% fat. 12:52 Now, we still have some concerns ... Sure 12:55 because there are other risks... Diseases and different things 12:58 Yeah, sure, like you've mentioned, but STILL 13:00 Native Americans, even the wild game they ate, 13:03 was very low in fat. 13:04 It wasn't the chips. It wasn't the lard. 13:06 This is not what they were raised on traditionally. 13:09 We're talking with Dr. David DeRose 13:11 from the Lifestyle Center of America 13:13 He's been doing some fascinating research on the 13:16 Native American diet, and how it's related to 13:19 God's principles as seen in Scripture, 13:21 but even more interesting, or at least as interesting, 13:25 is that being the same thing that science is telling us today 13:28 And when we come back, we're we're going to look 13:31 a little further at that. 13:32 How can we have the Native American benefits. 13:35 How can we avoid any pitfalls 13:37 that they came across in their particular culture. 13:40 Join us when we come back! 13:44 Have you found yourself wishing that you could shed a few pounds 13:47 Have you been on a diet for most of your life? 13:49 But not found anything that will really keep the weight off? 13:53 If you've answered "yes" to any of these questions, 13:55 then we have a solution for you that works. 13:58 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:01 have written a marvelous booklet called 14:03 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:05 and we'd like to send it to you FREE of charge. 14:08 Here's a medically sound approach successfully used 14:11 by thousands who are able to eat more, 14:13 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty 14:16 or hungry through lifestyle medicine. 14:18 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington have been featured on 14:21 3ABN, and in this booklet they present a sensible approach 14:25 to eating, nutrition, and lifestyle changes 14:28 that can help you prevent heart disease, diabetes 14:30 and EVEN cancer. 14:31 Call or write today for your free copy of 14:34 "Reversing Obesity Naturally" 14:35 and you could be on your way to a healthier, happier YOU 14:38 It's absolutely FREE of charge. 14:41 So call or write today. 14:45 Welcome back! We've been talking with 14:47 Dr. David DeRose about Native Americans and 14:51 really about their health practices, 14:52 and this is fascinating research that you've started to uncover. 14:56 Evidently, they had a predominantly plant-based 14:59 food or very low in fat if they were having wild game 15:03 and they had a lot of the health practices that really lead 15:06 to positive things today. 15:09 Now you mentioned that they NOW, as we are living now, 15:16 they have a lot of problems with diabetes, 15:18 and a lot of problems with other illnesses... 15:20 are there any other illnesses besides diabetes 15:23 that they seem to suffer from? 15:24 Well, the group like I mentioned earlier that has been 15:27 MOST well-studied are the Pima Indians, 15:29 and their weight concerns and diabetes as far as 15:33 chronic diseases, and of course the substance abuse issues 15:37 have also loomed large in native populations. 15:41 So these issues, though, are things that affect 15:44 you and I as well. 15:46 Whether we have obesity or diabetes diagnoses, 15:50 we ALL are at risk for this because as we tend to get older, 15:56 we tend to put on weight, and with weight comes 15:58 the risk for diabetes... 15:59 So I think as we talk about these conditions, 16:03 there is something that is applicable to everyone 16:06 regardless of what their cultural background is. 16:08 So we should ALL be thinking about a plant-based diet 16:11 like they have in their cultural past... 16:14 Yeah... I should mention one other thing 16:16 because a lot of people still may be a little skeptical. 16:19 Very interesting study, 1994, the journal "Diabetes Care" 16:23 Researchers from the National Institutes of Health 16:25 there in Phoenix, Arizona, traveled down to Mexico 16:29 and they found another cultural group, Native Americans, 16:33 that were from the same ancestry as the Pimas 16:36 in Arizona; 2 Pima groups basically. 16:39 Pimas in Arizona, Pimas in Mexico 16:42 The Pimas in Mexico were on a very different lifestyle... 16:46 High fiber diet, more active, and, interestingly, 16:52 VERY interestingly, eating meat only about once every month or 2 16:58 Basically, a vegetarian diet. 17:01 What they found in the men, for example... 17:03 Average man in his 40s, in the Pimas in Arizona, 17:07 over 50% of the them had diabetes. 17:10 Less than 10%, well under 10% of those in Mexico 17:14 Yes, they had a genetic predisposition, but LIFESTYLE 17:18 makes a huge difference, and that's the message... 17:20 Whether it's heart disease, or stroke, or diabetes, 17:23 or weight, we can't reverse ALL the genetics, 17:27 but we can make a big difference with our lifestyle... 17:30 And Native American traditional practices gave these people 17:33 tremendous health... that's what the records suggest 17:36 But NOW, it's adopting these Western practices 17:40 that have contributed to this decline in health status. 17:43 This is the same thing that we've seen with these 17:46 studies of rural China, and all these different things 17:48 but the interesting thing about this, 17:50 is that it is right here on this continent... 17:54 What about Native Americans, and their ability to 17:57 say "yes" or "no" to certain substances, 17:59 so-called "temperance?" 18:00 This is REALLY interesting, Don. 18:03 There was a famous French explorer named "le Moyne " 18:07 Jacques le Moyne and he came to what is modern-day Florida 18:11 before the Spanish had come there. 18:14 His party came there, and he observed Native Americans 18:17 really for the first time... these native peoples there. 18:21 And the accounts that he wrote about them are fascinating. 18:24 Not only did he write historical descriptions, 18:27 but he made some beautiful watercolor illustrations 18:30 that were then reproduced by another Frenchman, 18:32 Theodor de Bry into copperplate engravings. 18:35 These have stood the test of time; we have these today. 18:38 I've seen many of these illustrations. 18:40 A number of them show Native Americans eating! 18:44 And le Moyne says things like this... 18:46 These native peoples... he didn't call them native peoples 18:49 I got to tell you, he often used terms that 18:52 Derogatory... Very derogatory. 18:54 He mentions these derogatory terms like... um 18:58 I don't need to mention them. 19:01 But he says things like this, "They never overate" 19:06 "We Christians would be well to learn lessons of sobriety 19:11 from these people that we consider in such 19:15 derogatory terms"... Amazing! It's AMAZING! 19:17 He's saying, look-it, I mean and he said, "These people are 19:20 so long-lived. " They have such long lives 19:23 because they're temperate in their eating. Hmm 19:27 I'll tell ya, it's a powerful lesson, and it's something 19:29 that I believe God wants to have Christians power over. 19:32 As you and I have talked before... 19:35 So how did we get in this predicament of being, 19:37 you know, a Christian nation or a Christian people 19:41 and you're a Christian, and I'm a Christian minister... 19:45 Why is it that so MANY Christians have a problem 19:47 with this very area? 19:49 Why is it that they have used their very religion, it seems, 19:52 in a way that harms themselves? 19:53 Well you know what, this is the irony... 19:55 I talk about like traditional Native American practices 19:58 with Christians... They say, "Hey, I don't want 20:01 anything to do with that. " 20:02 That wasn't Bible-based. You see... 20:06 Or, did you hear who is a vegetarian? 20:08 It's some of these people in these... and they use some 20:12 derogatory terms, NOT Christian. 20:16 So if I'm going to be a vegetarian, 20:18 then I'm not really going to be a Christian 20:20 because the Christians aren't doing that. 20:22 You know what the irony is to me? 20:23 Native Americans do the same thing. 20:26 Let me tell you... this is a parallel explanation, 20:29 parallel situation. 20:31 You go into some Native American communities, 20:34 and what are their traditional foods? 20:36 Fried bread, you know, dough fried in lard. 20:39 Where did the lard and the fat come from? Okay 20:42 That wasn't part of their traditional foods before 20:45 European influence. 20:46 But it has now become their tradition. 20:49 They identify with this as part of their cultural identity. 20:53 Christians do the same thing. 20:55 They say, "You know, we eat meat... this is what we do 20:57 in our church. " This is what we do in our fellowship meals" 21:00 "We're not going to be like these non-Christians, 21:03 and eat like that. " 21:04 What I'm saying is, "Hey, wait a minute, Jesus came to give us 21:08 abundant life... 21:10 If He tells me to change my lifestyle, 21:12 I'm not going to look around and who else is doing it, 21:14 or who's not doing it. 21:16 And what the medical research is showing us, 21:18 and what Native American practices show us in a 21:21 group of people who have the odds stacked against some 21:24 chronic diseases like obesity, and diabetes. 21:27 It shows us that that Genesis diet... 21:30 that that Genesis lifestyle of moderate useful exercise 21:34 that God gave Adam and Eve in the Garden 21:36 of a plant-based diet, of a trusting relationship 21:39 with the Creator, of a stress-free existence... 21:42 these THINGS are things that we NEED today 21:45 and it doesn't matter if indigenous Australian, 21:49 the aborigines are adopting them or practiced them. 21:52 It doesn't matter if the Chinese have done this 21:55 traditionally from a perspective it didn't 21:58 incorporate Christ... 21:59 Many of these indigenous peoples knew their BODY 22:02 better than we Westerners do. 22:04 And who created our bodies? God 22:07 So these people have insights into the way 22:10 the Creator made them, and they lived that way traditionally. 22:14 So why should we DISTANCE ourselves from those 22:17 practices as Christians? Sure 22:18 We should just build on it. 22:20 So, they believe in the Creator, 22:21 they're very much into protecting the earth, 22:25 and their own bodies, and their cultural history. 22:27 You kind of made them aware of this, 22:30 and it's probably an "ah-ha" experience for them. 22:32 They are temperate in terms of these 22:34 things that you've seen in the artwork... 22:36 What about exercise? 22:37 Exercise is very interesting. 22:40 You know, exercise today, for many Americans 22:43 is either something to avoid, or, if a person is exercising, 22:48 it's with great fervor, and religiosity... 22:51 "I exercise 45 minutes a day... 22:53 and I check my pulse, and I see what it is... 22:56 Kind of an obsessive compulsive type thing. 22:58 Now don't misunderstand, I'm not depreciating that, 23:02 but what Native Americans did is 23:03 exercise was a part of their daily life. 23:06 It wasn't something they DID... 23:07 They exercised as part of their life. 23:09 They were physically active people, 23:11 even in some of their ceremonies. 23:13 They were physically active. 23:15 Of dances and all that... Okay 23:17 Not just dances, they even had 23:18 organized sports in the southwest. 23:21 They had ball courts that had both physical fitness, 23:26 and religious connotations... some very interesting parallels 23:30 What I tell people today, not that we've got to build 23:34 Native American ball courts and start playing out there 23:37 in some kind of worship ritual... 23:39 What I tell people, Don, is we need to make exercise 23:44 a part of our daily routine. 23:45 It's just like... you don't get up in the morning and say, 23:48 "Boy, am I going to eat today?" 23:49 Now you could choose to fast... but isn't the given for you 23:53 like it is for me that you're going to eat? 23:54 How about sleep? Is that kind of a given? 23:57 Ah, that's a given! 23:58 What about exercise? You don't have to answer 24:00 but the point is, most Americans They don't even think about it. 24:03 They don't even think about it, it's something they add, 24:05 or maybe if they have time. 24:06 Native Americans with part and parcel the way they lived 24:09 I say, "Hey, all of us need to get on that mode. " 24:12 A day without a meal, a day without sleep, 24:15 a day without exercise... You can choose that, 24:17 but that should be the exception. 24:19 The rule, all of those things should be part of our 24:21 daily activities. 24:23 Did they ever fast, or use natural remedies? 24:25 Definitely... and these are some of the 24:27 most amazing things. 24:28 FASTING was something that was used by almost... 24:31 I mean very pervasive among many Native American tribes. 24:36 FASTING has some profound benefits for diseases like 24:39 high blood pressure, and diabetes. 24:41 Some fascinating things... maybe some time we'll 24:43 have a chance to explore that. 24:45 But other natural remedies... Herbs! 24:49 Herbs are just blossoming in America. 24:53 Today we're starting to realize that these things 24:55 have some unique health-giving properties. 24:58 One of the herbs that Native Americans use was ginseng. 25:02 American ginseng in the year 2000 was studied, 25:06 was published in one of the prominent medical journals. 25:10 Sore throats... No, it was actually for diabetes 25:11 Diabetes? And they found that using 25:13 ginseng could actually LOWER blood sugar levels, 25:17 after a meal. 25:18 We do use some herbs and natural supplements 25:20 at the Lifestyle Center of America, 25:22 in addition to a lifestyle program... 25:24 And this is a tradition that Native Americans espoused. 25:28 You know what... The Lord, Himself, in the Bible 25:32 often used natural substances. 25:34 I think of Hezekiah's healing... 25:36 Yeah, used a fig poultice. 25:39 A lot of people say, "Ah, you know, that was just 25:41 someplace to focus his faith. " 25:43 But I think we should be very careful about how we dismiss 25:48 God's use of illustrations of remedial agencies in His work. 25:53 So all of these things... 25:56 They had a Lifestyle Center of America Native American 26:01 approach... kind of a sanitarium approach to life. 26:04 You know what? They did have that. 26:06 They had a place outside the camp 26:08 where people went for healing based on natural remedies. 26:12 They were also very advanced. 26:14 Throughout many Native American tribes, there is evidence, Don, 26:17 well before European influence, they were doing brain surgery! 26:22 Successful brain surgery. 26:24 How do we know? 26:25 We see surgical holes in skulls 26:29 that show bone regrowth indicating that brain surgery 26:32 was done by Native Americans and it was successful. 26:36 So they not only used the natural, but where it was 26:38 appropriate, apparently they used surgical techniques as well 26:41 They actually had an advanced healthcare system 26:44 that included a sanitarium model... 26:46 People coming away from their village for a time 26:49 to get intensive healing, and that's what we're doing today! 26:52 That addresses the issue... so many people say, 26:54 "We evolved... we have to be hunt or gatherers, 26:57 or this or that, and now are more and more advanced" 27:00 Really, this is the model of the Bible... that people were 27:03 very intelligent, very in-tune with what God 27:06 wanted for their bodies, and their lifestyle, 27:08 and then they fell away. 27:11 This is the plea I'm making... 27:12 Get back to the way God created us. 27:14 He wants to reveal it to us, 27:16 and He wants to give us the power to live that way. 27:18 Fascinating information if you're a 27:21 Native American, or even if you're not... 27:23 And some real principles that can help YOU, 27:25 and, of course, myself, and Dr. DeRose to live healthy 27:29 and to have health that lasts for a lifetime. 27:31 If you'd like more information about this and other 27:33 papers that are published by the Lifestyle Center of America, 27:35 or their programs, please contact them at their website 27:39 which is... www. lifestylecenter. org 27:47 lifestylecenter. org 27:49 or contact us here at 3ABN, and we'd be happy to 27:52 get you in touch with them. 27:53 Thanks for joining us today and have a GREAT day! |
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