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Participants: Don Mackintosh, Skip MacCarty

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00:46 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:48 I'm your host Don Mackintosh
00:50 We're glad you're with us.
00:51 Perhaps in your life, you experience stress,
00:54 and, you know, there's such a thing as good stress
00:57 and bad stress.
00:58 Here to talk about stress and what to do ABOUT IT
01:01 is Dr. Skip MacCarty.
01:02 Welcome Dr. MacCarty Thank you
01:04 You've really talked about this quite often
01:07 over the last 20 years and you've developed this
01:09 seminar now... "Stress Beyond Coping"
01:12 ...I think you call it Correct
01:13 You want to just go beyond coping,
01:14 you want to really get a handle on it.
01:16 And that seminar is available for people to use
01:19 in their communities... people can learn about by
01:21 calling us here at 3ABN or the "Church Ministries Department
01:25 of the Seventh-day Adventist Church"
01:26 which, interestingly enough, has adopted yours as their
01:31 seminar on stress - so we're glad that you're with us.
01:34 Today, we're going to talk about stress,
01:36 but we need you to kind of catch us up to speed...
01:40 What is stress and what are some keys for dealing with it?
01:43 Okay, well Don, I'm going to use the stress tank model.
01:46 It invites us to view our lives as a tank,
01:50 and into that tank are being poured stressors
01:53 or stressful experiences every single day of our lives,
01:56 and that builds to the overflow point.
01:58 If we get too much stress it can be... It's harmful
02:01 Exactly, various kinds of harm, illnesses, accidents,
02:05 relationship problems and strain...
02:07 And fortunately, there's a pressure relief valve
02:10 that has 7 Keys to managing stress,
02:13 and if we keep those keys in order in our lives,
02:17 we crank open that valve, we can actually prevent
02:20 stress from building to the harmful point,
02:22 so here are the 7 Keys right here...
02:31 And I notice also that these 2, prayer and viewpoint
02:34 are highlighted - how important are they in your stress pyramid?
02:38 Good question, Don, I've developed a stress management
02:41 pyramid that shows the 7 Keys in a hierarchal order
02:45 ...starting with the most important at the top
02:46 and working down from there and you'll notice that
02:48 prayer or spiritual integration is the VERY TOP
02:52 in the upper most of the resources that are available
02:55 to us and viewpoint right underneath;
02:57 they are VERY important...
02:58 And I've developed 10, what I call,
03:00 heavy-duty stress absorbers.
03:02 They are 10 powerful stress reducing beliefs that
03:06 cushion the stresses of life and take a lot of the stress
03:09 out of life when we apply them,
03:12 and it integrates the viewpoint
03:14 and the prayer, spiritual integration components.
03:18 And we've covered, I think, 5 of those in a previous time
03:22 together - God is my spiritual parent, the Serenity Prayer,
03:27 knowing the difference between knowing what we can change,
03:30 what we can't change and noting the difference between those...
03:33 And releasing the things we can't change - to God,
03:36 and just focusing on the things we can.
03:38 The other one that you shared that was very helpful
03:39 was living just one day at a time,
03:42 not a week at a time, but one day at a time...
03:45 Or going back to the past and scooping up trouble
03:48 from the past into today, etcetera.
03:49 Taking personal responsibility for our happiness
03:53 and our attitude...
03:55 Creating our own internal good weather,
03:58 and carrying it with us wherever we go.
03:59 And then finally, choosing to be grateful in the midst
04:06 of whatever happens. Exactly
04:07 We can't make things great, but we can be grateful.
04:10 Not always grateful FOR what happens, but we can be
04:12 grateful in those circumstances.
04:13 I think that's a choice.
04:14 So now we're just building on that,
04:16 putting some more shock absorbers on our
04:18 already well-cushioned vehicle.
04:21 But you told me once that if you have even just one
04:23 of these shock absorbers, it could help you
04:26 in just about any situation.
04:28 Don, if you consistently apply any one of these
04:30 stress-reducing beliefs, these heavy duty
04:32 shock absorbers as we refer to them,
04:34 it would help you in so many situations;
04:36 it would really take a lot of the shock, so-to-speak,
04:40 out of the stressful situations of life...
04:42 But you begin to accumulate them and apply them together
04:46 and it's just awesome the power that they have.
04:48 All right, so let's look at the next one.
04:50 Let's look at another stress absorber today.
04:54 What's the next one you want to show us?
04:55 That would be the concept of perspective...
05:00 Now, it's formulated as a resolve, but really, Don,
05:06 there's a powerful belief behind it that perspective
05:09 that makes a difference on life...
05:10 just keeping things in perspective.
05:11 Sometimes I'm asked, when I'm with adult audiences,
05:15 I'm asked - How can you teach
05:17 some of these principles to children?
05:18 And I've got a wonderful book here - it's called:
05:21 "Too Much Noise" by Ann McGovern
05:23 Found this - my daughter had it for her granddaughter
05:26 and I saw this book and it was just tremendous.
05:29 It's a book about Peter...
05:31 You read this to me before the program - it's a great book!
05:34 Oh, it's fantastic and my grandson, Gabriel,
05:36 he loves to have this read over and over and over again!
05:39 And it's such a powerful principle...
05:41 This little man, Peter, has a home that is too noisy for him.
05:45 The leaves are falling on the roof and the tea kettle is
05:49 whistling and there is just too much noise,
05:51 and so he goes to this wise man of the village and he says,
05:54 "My house is so noisy, I can't sleep at night,
05:58 and my bed creaks and the floor squeaks, what do I do?"
06:01 And he says, "Well get a cow"
06:02 So he goes and gets a cow, and the cow is mooing and he goes
06:04 back and says, "That didn't work"... Get a donkey!
06:06 He goes back and gets a donkey and now the
06:07 donkey is heehawing and the cow is mooing.
06:09 He goes back and he keeps going back to this wise man...
06:12 He says, "Get a hen, get a sheep, get a dog and a cat"
06:14 And now - ALL THIS NOISE, and he goes back
06:17 finally to the wise man and he said...
06:18 "This is crazy, I can't sleep at all now"
06:20 "I came to you to get some help
06:22 and you've only made matters so much worse. "
06:24 The wise man said, "Well now do what I tell you,
06:26 get rid of all the animals"
06:28 So he goes back and he gets rid of all the animals,
06:30 and then the leaves fall on the roof - swish, swish,
06:34 the bed creaks and the floor squeaks,
06:37 and the tea kettle whistles - hiss - hiss,
06:39 and he says, "Oh what a beautiful quiet house I have"
06:42 "What beautiful quiet noises"
06:43 And he goes to sleep and dreams a very beautiful
06:45 and quiet dream.
06:46 So that wise man really was wise.
06:48 He just added more things and he said - Look...
06:50 That's exactly right... Yeah, you really do have it good
06:53 You really have it good.
06:57 There's a continuum that I've developed, Don,
06:59 I've got a slide of that - going from 1 to 10
07:02 where at the left end, you have no problem at all,
07:06 and #10 is worse case, and I try to help people
07:09 when they come with a problem or if I have a problem myself,
07:11 I try to think of - What could the worse case be
07:13 in this situation?
07:15 And then you put your problem in perspective that way...
07:20 And for me, I've read a number of books on the holocaust
07:23 and Auschwitz and Buchenwald
07:26 and, for me, I made the #10 would be life at Auschwitz
07:30 which was BARELY life.
07:32 It was life like an animal - worse than an animal.
07:34 An animal being tortured and never knowing if it was
07:37 going to live the next few minutes...
07:39 And I try to put the problems I have in life in that
07:44 perspective and you can see if you're exaggerating things
07:47 to get them all out of whack.
07:48 You know, this should give you a little example of how
07:52 easy it is to get things out of line.
07:54 You've seen these little Post-it notes? Yes
07:57 I use them for so many things and I carry them in my pocket
07:59 because somebody will give me some information,
08:02 and I'll just pull that out and write it down on that note
08:05 and stick it back in there...
08:06 And I also have these glasses that I get at Rite Aid,
08:11 I only need them to read, but they have these little
08:13 bifocals that give me the ability to read,
08:15 but I don't like them - I don't like to look
08:17 through glasses, so most of the time,
08:18 I'll carry them in my pocket like this,
08:20 and one of the worse things that can happen for me -
08:22 There I go again saying that - using that language
08:25 But, if one of these Post-its gets stuck to my glasses
08:28 because, for some reason, that
08:29 sticky does not come off very well.
08:31 You can wash it and wash it and wash it,
08:33 and it stays on there no matter what you use.
08:35 It takes a while to get that off of there.
08:37 And one day I was at my office and I pulled out my glasses,
08:39 and there was my little sticky note stuck to my glasses...
08:42 And I literally said, out loud,
08:43 "That's the worst thing that could have happened to me today"
08:46 And then I realized, it just hit me what I had just said.
08:49 That's the self-talk again kind of identifying where we are.
08:52 And it helped me put things back in perspective.
08:55 You pictured all those glasses in one room in Auschwitz
08:59 or something and said, "Look, at least I have glasses"
09:01 Right, yep - Charlie, our cameraman here,
09:04 was talking to us after one of our programs,
09:08 and our camera operator, and he said when something
09:13 difficult happens to him, something frustrating,
09:15 he says to himself - these are the words,
09:18 I wrote it down... "If that's worst thing
09:20 that happens to me in my life, I've got it made"
09:25 And you know something, Don, that is a powerful statement
09:29 for us to say - If that's the worst thing that happens
09:31 to me in my life, I've got it made...
09:33 That is awesome - it's putting that problem in perspective
09:37 out of a whole life.
09:38 And just adding this... I will keep everything in
09:40 perspective is so powerful to help us keep focused,
09:45 and keep on track.
09:46 Instead of getting frustrated and the stress levels rising
09:48 and the stress chemicals start flowing in our bodies,
09:50 we immediately reduce that when we use some little phrase
09:53 like that or just think about...
09:55 "I could be at Auschwitz right now"
09:57 and we put things back in perspective also.
09:59 I remember I was working in the emergency room once,
10:01 and there was this lady that
10:02 just had a terrible, terrible cough,
10:04 and she was very upset that we weren't taking care of her,
10:07 and so the person in the next room was dying of a heart attack
10:11 but she wanted to be seen and she didn't realize that,
10:15 and so somehow, inadvertently that curtain got opened
10:18 and she saw the person dying and all of a sudden she felt
10:21 completely better and she just was thanking the Lord
10:24 because she didn't have to go through that.
10:26 So perspective - pulling the curtain back for our kids,
10:29 a great suggestion for the kids,
10:31 and then also a suggestion as well.
10:32 Well let's say you try and do that,
10:34 you put everything in perspective
10:35 or you think you have,
10:36 but still things are going south what do you do then?
10:39 Hey, that's going to happen, it's going to happen,
10:41 and that's the next stress absorber that I use,
10:46 Stress Absorber I call #7 and that is...
10:52 Some kind of meaning.
10:57 Dr. Viktor Frankl who was a Jewish psychiatrist,
11:01 during the Second World War, he was at Auschwitz for a while
11:05 as a prisoner there.
11:07 He wrote a book later on called, "Man's Search for Meaning"
11:10 a powerful little book and in this book,
11:14 he talks about just some of the reflections
11:19 on what he learned at Auschwitz...
11:21 And he makes a statement in that book that I've got a
11:24 slide of that statement; he said this...
11:32 And even in their experiences at Auschwitz,
11:35 he taught prisoners how to look
11:37 for meaning in what they were doing.
11:38 Now the Bible says something very similar in Romans 8
11:41 We have this beautiful promise of God...
11:51 You know Don, that gives meaning to everything.
11:54 What could happen... if that's a true statement,
11:57 what could happen to us - that doesn't have
12:00 some meaning - some potential for meaning?
12:02 I remember my grandfather and you and I were in the
12:05 same city at the time my grandfather came to live with us
12:07 and it was kind of suffering for him to live with me.
12:10 I know you find that hard to believe,
12:12 but when my brother and I were living with him,
12:15 and I asked him - "What keeps you going?"
12:17 He said, "You know, it must be that I need to help
12:21 you boys with something, it must be"
12:23 And it gave meaning to his life... Yes
12:25 And so, even though his wife had died,
12:27 even though many of the people that he loved were gone,
12:30 he had a sense of meaning and he just really contributed
12:32 the last few years of his life.
12:35 I want to share a quotation from
12:37 "Thoughts From the Mount of Blessings"
12:38 which is one of the greatest books on stress,
12:40 awesome book on stress written by Ellen White...
12:43 Listen to this statement and think if a person really
12:45 internalized this statement.
12:48 "The Father's presence encircled Christ, and nothing befell Him
12:53 but that which infinite love permitted for the blessing
12:56 of the world" That's pretty secure if you
13:00 know that's the case.
13:01 Here was His source of comfort...
13:03 Well sure, for Christ, right?
13:05 But the next phrase says... "And it is for us"
13:08 That statement goes on... "He who is imbued with the
13:14 Spirit of Christ, abides in Christ"
13:16 That means you're asking every day for the Holy Spirit
13:19 to be in your life and for you to be submissive
13:20 to the Holy Spirit's will.
13:23 "The blow that is aimed at him To that kind of person
13:26 falls upon the Savior who surrounds him with His presence"
13:31 So you just picture this... that God is surrounding you,
13:35 Christ is surrounding you with His presence,
13:36 and nothing can touch your life but first it touches Him
13:40 and He has to give permission.
13:41 That's that next statement...
13:42 "Whatever comes to him"
13:44 Whatever comes to me in my life,
13:46 comes from Christ in that it has to first of all get through Him.
13:50 He has to evaluate - Is this going to be of some
13:53 benefit to Skip.
13:54 Is this going to be of some benefit if he suffers
13:57 in this way - if he is inflicted with this
13:59 suffering, is he going to be some benefit to the people
14:02 that I've given him spiritual stewardship with regard to.
14:05 So every event of our life has some meaning,
14:08 believing that - if we really believe that;
14:10 if we believe that with all our heart.
14:12 I tell you what, you can go through very severe suffering,
14:15 and it still keeps you focused.
14:16 You still feel like God is in control of this;
14:19 there's a meaning to this and you can go on.
14:21 And we accept that by faith sometimes.
14:23 We just have to cling to that promise and that belief.
14:26 That's the promise - exactly.
14:27 Anything else about when things go south with our
14:30 perspective you'd like to share you'd like us to hear?
14:34 Okay, we've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty
14:36 We're talking about stress, stress absorbers.
14:38 What we can do to absorb the stressors
14:41 that come to us in life.
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15:53 Welcome back, we've been talking about stress,
15:55 what we can do about it.
15:56 Our guest today is Dr. Skip MacCarty
15:59 We've been talking about stress absorbers,
16:01 and what we can do to really get a handle on the stressors
16:04 that come that can be damaging in our lives.
16:06 We've talked about keeping things in perspective,
16:09 and looking for the meaning in every situation in life.
16:13 Let's go on... We don't always know
16:15 what the meaning is even though we believe it's there,
16:18 God said he could bring good out of anything.
16:19 Okay, what's the next one?
16:21 The next one is Stress Absorber #8...
16:24 I yield my personal rights to God.
16:27 I yield them to God - my personal rights to God.
16:35 All right, so giving rights over to Him,
16:37 and then if He wants us to have some right,
16:40 we wait for Him to give it back to us. That's right
16:44 You know Don, we live in a rights-crazed age,
16:48 and almost every time there's conflict...
16:54 generally if I'm having conflict with somebody,
16:56 it's because I'm upset at somebody,
16:58 it's because I feel they've violated some personal
17:01 right that I have...
17:02 And so when you yield your rights to God, it just diffuses
17:06 the potential for conflict in that situation.
17:09 Now I have a slide where I identify how to go about
17:15 doing this - how to go about yielding your rights.
17:18 First of all, identify your rights.
17:22 It's like stress-inducing beliefs we talked about
17:24 in a previous program.
17:26 If I asked you to identify your
17:27 rights right now, you'd have a hard time.
17:29 You'd come up with a few things but...
17:30 I have the right to remain silent... Okay
17:34 But generally when you're in conflict situation,
17:36 you say - what right do I feel this person violated
17:40 that you can oftentimes or after a conflict you can identify it.
17:43 Then yield that right to God.
17:45 Yield it to God and accept it back again as a gift from God.
17:49 In other words, you're not going to hold out for it anymore,
17:51 if it comes back to you, you can accept it
17:53 as a gift and be grateful for it.
17:54 I've got a list of "rights" on a slide.
17:58 For instance "Personal Rights" Always be treated fairly.
18:01 That makes sense, of course, I always want to be
18:03 treated fairly - to always be loved and respected,
18:05 especially by people you treat decently and you try to
18:08 help out - You raise your kids, you help them financially
18:13 enormously, you expect that to come back.
18:15 What happens then when it doesn't?
18:17 See... a long life for myself and my family.
18:19 So I get cancer and I'm only 20 years old or 17 years old,
18:23 and how unfair can life be because I have this right
18:27 to long life for myself and for every member of my family.
18:29 Four score at least... Yeah
18:31 Be treated fairly as I want to be treated.
18:33 Have others keep their promise.
18:38 Keep their promises to me, exactly.
18:39 Now, when I yield those rights to God, literally give them up,
18:42 it's a scary thing.
18:44 Then I literally prevent the stress by doing that.
18:48 I diffuse the stressful situations.
18:50 Because your expectations are lowered,
18:52 sort of like we talked about before... Exactly
18:54 So yielding those to Him,
18:56 do you find that easy to do yourself?
18:58 It's not easy to do, it's a spiritual discipline
19:01 as many of these stress-inducing beliefs are.
19:03 They are like spiritual disciplines,
19:05 but once you know the goal, then you know what to pray about
19:08 and it's a constant battle, but it's very, very powerful
19:12 when you yield your rights to God - very powerful.
19:15 So if you do that, how do you keep yourself
19:17 from becoming a doormat, or, you know, you become a
19:22 namby-pamby or something.
19:23 Yeah, exactly, I understand what you're saying,
19:26 because what you do, Don, is you have to distinguish
19:29 between your rights and your responsibilities.
19:32 You have certain responsibilities too...
19:34 And, I'd like to just have the slide showing the
19:38 responsibility - a list of responsibilities.
19:40 I have a responsibility to live by my spiritual values.
19:43 So, in other words, if you ask me to violate
19:47 my spiritual value...
19:48 No, that's a responsibility I have not to violate
19:50 that spiritual value. That's right
19:52 The self-care... If you're beating up on me,
19:56 I have a responsibility to maintain my physical,
20:02 mental and spiritual care to take care of that.
20:08 I have a responsibility to do unto others
20:09 as I would want them to do unto me.
20:12 I have a responsibility to care for my family.
20:14 I have a responsibility to protect my family;
20:16 to fulfill my promises no matter how other people do with me.
20:22 And when I fulfill my responsibilities,
20:23 I'm creating eustress - that's good stress,
20:26 that's the positive stress.
20:28 So yielding rights prevents distress,
20:30 fulfilling my responsibilities creates eustress.
20:32 I had an attorney one time when
20:33 I was into that yielding rights;
20:35 he was getting more and more agitated as we were going
20:37 through that part of the seminar.
20:38 I'm sure he was - that's his bread and butter! That's right!
20:42 But when we got to responsibilities,
20:44 I pointed out that an attorney's responsibility is
20:46 to protect other people's rights.
20:49 You were toying with that attorney.
20:51 You set him out and you brought him back.
20:54 Just like God does - we give Him
20:56 our rights and He brings us back.
20:57 And in fact, it makes sense to Him.
20:59 He understood the value and the wisdom of yielding
21:04 one's personal rights, but being committed to
21:06 try to care for other people's rights.
21:09 Well so many times when someone goes to an
21:11 attorney or in our society, they're going because
21:13 they've been hurt or they feel
21:15 like their rights have been damaged,
21:16 and they want to pay them back.
21:17 and so, you know, that's a big issue.
21:19 The desire for revenge, no question about it.
21:21 In fact, that leads right into
21:23 our Stress Absorber #9 and that is...
21:34 We've got some good evidence from this from some
21:36 stress experts these days.
21:38 Dr. Hans Selye, who was the father of stress management,
21:42 made the statement... "I think in the final analysis
21:46 that gratitude and revenge are the most important
21:49 factors governing our actions in everyday life.
21:52 In other words, he says there's a spectrum;
21:53 on one end there's gratitude;
21:54 that's the most positive.
21:55 He said, human attitude you can have,
21:57 and revenge is the most destructive
21:59 and negative, he said.
22:00 Upon them also chiefly depend our peace of mind
22:12 Dr. Lewis Smedes made a very powerful statement
22:17 on this same subject. He said...
22:48 Wow, so this idea of forgiveness is SO important.
22:52 It's so important and, in fact, the very next slide will show
22:55 his other statement...
23:04 Powerful!
23:06 So the way we relate, either through revenge
23:09 or forgiveness is a choice that we can make.
23:11 This is the understanding you're sharing with us.
23:16 It doesn't mean we don't follow through on our
23:17 responsibilities - I've been maimed, I've been hurt,
23:20 so there needs to be some legal process.
23:22 The way I'm looking at that is not because I have
23:24 to get them back, but rather I need to
23:26 fulfill my responsibilities and that's why I'm involved,
23:29 not because I'm so dependent on that decision
23:32 to make me feel good. Right
23:33 And there's a chain reaction here, Don
23:39 If we don't forgive, it settles into resentment,
23:42 and resentment gels into hostility,
23:47 kind of a negative attitude toward everything. BITTERNESS!
23:49 Yes, and it just affects everything in your life,
23:53 and you just haven't forgiven somebody for something,
23:55 and that bitterness, that hostility hardens into hate.
23:59 So what if you TRY to forgive somebody but you just
24:02 can't seem to.
24:03 I mean, you know it's right,
24:06 so you have the guilt of not being able to you think.
24:09 What do you do when you can't seem to do that?
24:10 Don, there are 5 steps to the forgiveness process.
24:13 Step #1 is to recognize the need to forgive,
24:17 and we've seen the different quotations that the experts say,
24:19 "If you don't forgive, you're damaging yourself in every way,
24:22 in relationships and everything. 70 x 7- said Jesus... Exactly
24:24 #2- Acknowledge your inability to forgive.
24:27 Now for most things, Don, most hurts that come to us,
24:30 we can just slough them off.
24:32 I mean within a couple of hours, we won't even remember them.
24:34 But once in a while something big comes along...
24:36 An administrator believes a story about me
24:39 that wasn't true and then
24:41 acts on that as though it were true,
24:42 and that goes very deep inside of me.
24:45 Someone leaves you after being married 15 years...
24:47 There you go, yeah, exactly.
24:49 You just don't forget, I mean, it's hard to forgive,
24:51 and so you wrestle with that.
24:54 So then, at that point, it's important to acknowledge
24:56 you're not able to forgive.
24:58 That helps you move to step 3.
25:00 "Ask God to give you a forgiving spirit. "
25:03 He says, "Ask and it shall be given to you"
25:05 If we really believe that, then we can go to Him as a resource.
25:09 Then #4- "Yield all bitterness and desire for revenge to God"
25:13 And you just verbally do that; yield desire for revenge
25:18 and bitterness to God,
25:19 and I don't know how else to do it, except just say,
25:22 "God, I yield these things to you"
25:24 Now there's a definition of forgiveness by Marjorie Thompson
25:27 that I'd like to show now, that I felt was so awesome.
25:31 A beautiful statement...
26:17 I just thought that was such a powerful statement
26:19 of what forgiveness is.
26:21 And then the 5th point, Don, is to "do good to your offender"
26:25 Because our feelings will follow our actions many times,
26:30 and if you can do something good towards your offender,
26:33 even pray for them as Jesus called us to do...
26:35 "Pray for them" then forgiveness can come
26:38 in it's time.
26:39 And sometimes breaks that...
26:40 Is that when you can really know that you have forgiven,
26:43 when you go through those processes?
26:45 I like the way Lewis Smedes says...
26:48 It's kind of a symptom of healing...
26:49 When you think of your offender and the impulse to wish him well
26:53 springs spontaneously from within
26:56 you know you have forgiven.
26:58 Excellent - excellent!
27:00 Do good to those that despitefully use you,
27:03 you just feel like... and goodness of course
27:05 is the fruit of the spirit. Right
27:06 The last Stress Absorber...
27:09 We don't have much time. Last one...
27:10 Very simple - Stress Absorber #10
27:12 We've talked about it before in our program...
27:14 I will live by the Golden Rule
27:16 The Golden Rule as stated by Jesus - even though
27:19 He didn't call it such is in whatever you do
27:22 do unto others as you would have them do to you,
27:25 and then He says... "This is the Law and the Prophets"
27:27 In other words, this sums up My divine intent for you.
27:32 We've been talking with Dr. Skip MacCarty
27:34 We've been talking about stress - it's a real issue.
27:37 It can be very negative in our lives,
27:39 but there are stress absorbers that can be used to
27:42 mitigate against it.
27:44 We've talked about 10 of those;
27:46 5 of them in this program.
27:47 They are all in the seminar, "Stress Beyond Coping"
27:50 We hope that you can make this resource available
27:53 not only for yourself, but those in your community,
27:55 and give us a call here at 3ABN and we'll give you
27:57 more information about it.


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