Participants: Don Mackintosh, Tim Arnott
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000134
00:47 Hello and welcome to "Health for a Lifetime"
00:49 I'm your host Don Mackintosh
00:50 We're glad that you've joined us today!
00:53 Today, we're going to be talking about a subject that many are
00:56 talking about - carbohydrates!
00:58 Are they good for you? Are they bad for you?
01:01 What about carbohydrate diets
01:03 or low-carb diets or high-carb diets?
01:06 Maybe you've heard about this.
01:08 And talking with us today about this important subject
01:10 is Dr. Tim Arnott
01:13 He is a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America
01:16 in Oklahoma - which focuses on teaching people
01:19 about these very things and helping them
01:21 reverse lifestyle problems or diseases that are related to
01:26 lifestyle by looking at what they eat or what they don't eat,
01:29 or what they do or don't do.
01:31 We're glad you are with us Dr. Arnott... Thank you
01:34 You've been a physician for
01:35 what was it - about 14 years? About 14 years.
01:39 And in family practice? Family practice
01:40 Preventive... Preventive lifestyle medicine
01:44 That's something that I've been doing for, well about 5 years.
01:49 So day-in and day-out there at the Lifestyle Center of America
01:53 in Oklahoma, you're dealing with subjects just like this.
01:57 Absolutely! We have people come from all around the country,
02:01 and their friends, their neighbors,
02:04 their commentators on the news programs
02:08 are telling them low carbohydrate diets...
02:10 That's what you want to get into.
02:11 Yes, this seems to be a big buzz.
02:13 I'm sure a lot of people are talking
02:14 about that at your center.
02:16 What about carbohydrates?
02:17 We hear so much about them...
02:18 Are they our enemies or are they our friends?
02:22 Well it's interesting, we had some data that we
02:26 recently collected at the Lifestyle Center of America
02:29 and it was presented at the most recent meeting of the
02:32 American Dietetic Association.
02:34 Basically, what we did was take a number of our patients,
02:37 about 20 patients, we took them as they came through
02:41 the program and we measured what happened to these patients
02:46 when they were on our program which is a
02:48 high complex carbohydrate diet about 60-65% carbohydrates,
02:54 about 20% fats and 15-20% protein.
03:00 And what was shocking to the individuals
03:02 there at that conference, was that they actually saw
03:07 blood sugar levels drop on a high carbohydrate diet,
03:11 and they measured this in the form of a fructosamine,
03:14 which is a test that measures your blood sugar level
03:17 over the last 2 weeks and it actually dropped significantly.
03:21 And all of the numbers were highly statistically significant
03:24 Not only the fructosamine dropped,
03:27 but we saw cholesterol come down.
03:29 Those who were on a statin medication like Lipitor
03:33 The stuff that makes all your cholesterol go down...
03:34 Yes, exactly!
03:36 You know, they came in with average total cholesterol levels
03:39 on a medicine now in the 150s,
03:41 and most people would think...
03:43 "Well that's just right where you need to be,
03:45 and you probably don't need to get any better"
03:47 But on our program, the average total cholesterol
03:50 dropped from the 150s down into the 120s
03:53 for the average total cholesterol on a
03:54 high carbohydrate diet.
03:58 I can just hear people gasping - A high carb diet? EXACTLY!
04:01 Everything around us saying "low carbs"
04:03 Well after this meeting, people were coming up
04:05 and talking with our dietician who gave the lecture,
04:09 and our former Medical Director, Dr. Zeno Charles-Marcel,
04:13 and they were so ASTOUNDED that somewhere in America
04:17 they were treating diabetes with a HIGH carbohydrate diet,
04:20 and they were getting success.
04:22 So it's actually exciting to work there.
04:24 It's actually exciting to see these changes.
04:26 Well there has got to be something then about
04:28 carbs that I don't know about or most people don't know about.
04:31 Why aren't they saying some are bad?
04:34 Are there some that are bad and some that are good?
04:35 Well there are... there are differences,
04:37 and that's probably one of the most important
04:39 messages we want to get across...
04:40 is that NOT ALL FOODS are created equal,
04:44 most people know that but not
04:45 all carbohydrates are created equal.
04:48 And, recently we've heard a lot
04:50 about how NOT ALL FATS are created equal.
04:52 Before, it was low fat and now it's GOOD FAT.
04:55 Well, the same can be said for carbohydrates.
04:58 And right now, we're in a
04:59 LOW CARBOHYDRATE - that's what is good.
05:02 Actually, what you want is GOOD CARBOHYDRATE,
05:04 and we're going to get to that discussion in a minute.
05:07 But first of all, we'd like to back UP and just state that
05:10 there is actually a foundation for a high carbohydrate diet.
05:15 Is this looking back to the original diet?
05:20 Is that what you are suggesting? Well, that's exactly right!
05:21 Going all the way back... That's exactly right
05:23 I think you have a graphic on this.
05:24 That's right, we have a graphic...
05:26 And I was doing some research into the makeup of what the
05:32 Creator gave us as an original diet.
05:35 And I have a food processing software...
05:38 ESHA Research puts it out there is Salem, Oregon
05:41 And basically what I did was to take about 200
05:44 of the commonly eaten plant foods
05:47 in the fruit, vegetable, grain and bean category,
05:52 and just see what was in them.
05:53 So this is essentially most all of the plant foods
05:57 with the exception of the nuts and seeds
05:59 that we would be accustomed to eating.
06:00 And as you can see, the carbohydrate content,
06:04 the average carbohydrate content of those nearly 200 foods
06:07 is not 40% which is what's often...
06:10 78% is that what it says? 78% - almost double
06:14 what is currently recommended by some diet enthusiasts.
06:18 So your point is that if you look at the original diet
06:21 of the Bible, that being Genesis 1:29,
06:24 you're finding a high carb diet. Exactly!
06:28 I mean, if you want to find out what the Creator designed
06:30 for His creators, you want to go to the owner's manual
06:33 and check it out!
06:34 And it's actually very interesting that the
06:36 PROTEIN content of the Creator's foods
06:39 NEVER CHANGES from 15%
06:43 It's 15% and most of the foods are BASICALLY very similar,
06:48 except for the nuts and seeds
06:49 and we can go to that graphic now...
06:51 And you'll see that when you add the nuts and seeds
06:54 to those other plant foods...
06:56 The fat goes up a bit it looks like. The fat certainly goes up.
06:59 It goes up from around 7% to about 25%
07:02 Now this is putting the nuts and seeds as EQUAL
07:05 with the other food categories which is not what is recommended
07:09 But if you were to DO that, that would give you the
07:12 LOWEST carbohydrate content of the Creator's diet possible!
07:16 And as you can see, it's still at 60%
07:18 Sixty percent and the fat goes up to 25
07:21 And as you can see, the protein doesn't
07:23 change one iota... it's right there at 14-15%
07:26 So, in a sense, the Creator's diet is NEVER high protein.
07:32 Okay, NEVER HIGH PROTEIN! ... And always high carb
07:35 And it could be a little bit higher fat or lower fat
07:38 depending on how many nuts you eat... Exactly!
07:40 And if you eat them as they were grown,
07:41 it takes you a while to get through those shells,
07:43 so it's not going to be too high Exactly!
07:45 In fact, if you were to eat the nuts and seeds
07:47 as you recommended.
07:50 The Creator put them in hard shells,
07:51 kind of a clue there, to use them more sparingly,
07:54 THEN you'll be at a carbohydrate content of about 65-70%
08:00 Fat right around 15% and THAT'S THE DIET
08:04 that's been shown to give us the greatest benefit
08:07 against all of the chronic diseases
08:09 we're dealing with in this country.
08:10 So, the amazing thing to me is,
08:12 many times I'll hear... Actually I've even heard some
08:16 Christian physicians and whatnot saying...
08:18 "No, low carb is the way to go"
08:21 But they're going against the actual ultimate source
08:25 in their trade - that being the Bible,
08:27 when they say that in a sense... Absolutely!
08:28 Absolutely - you know, there's the old saying,
08:31 "If all else fails, go back to
08:34 Genesis and look at the owner's manual"
08:36 And I was excited to see this, that the Creator's original diet
08:42 ENDORSES a lot of the research that is coming out.
08:45 Now there are a few studies coming out that would suggest
08:48 that perhaps a low carbohydrate diet that's high in protein
08:53 can actually help you lose weight,
08:54 but what individuals need to KNOW is that
08:58 diets that will help you lose weight when you look at the
09:01 final analysis, those diets are lower in calories.
09:05 That's why people lose weight.
09:07 Well, why do you think the Creator loaded His food
09:10 with carbohydrates... 60% if you add the nuts,
09:13 and 75% if you're just looking at it without the nuts.
09:16 Why did He load it up with that?
09:18 Well, you know, there are a lot of good reasons for that.
09:21 In fact, we can go to the next graphic to get us started.
09:25 But the Creator actually LOADED His food with carbohydrates
09:30 first of all - because carbohydrates have actually
09:34 been shown to raise the serotonin levels.
09:37 And one of the ways... What is serotonin?
09:39 Serotonin is a neurotransmitter.
09:42 It's a chemical that the nerves in the brain use to
09:45 communicate with each other.
09:47 Does it make you feel good or bad?
09:48 Well, it actually helps to improve your mood.
09:50 In fact, one of the most common reasons that people
09:54 see a physician today is for the diagnosis of depression.
09:58 And, the most common treatment for that condition
10:01 is what we call "SSRIs" which are
10:04 "serotonin reuptake inhibitors"
10:06 which essentially, one nerve will actually
10:10 put serotonin OUT in the synapse between the nerves
10:14 to stimulate the next nerve in line,
10:17 and that nerve that put out the serotonin will then
10:20 retake that up out of the space there...
10:23 And this drug gets in there and blocks that reuptake
10:26 and so there is more serotonin in that space between the nerves
10:31 and this helps to boost the...
10:33 So the carbs do that naturally.
10:35 Well, actually what some people may not understand is that
10:39 there are some important amino acids that are in the food
10:44 and one of these is tryptophan...
10:46 And tryptophan is the raw material that the body uses
10:51 to make serotonin.
10:53 Okay, so it's a little different mechanism,
10:54 but the bottom line is it increases those levels,
10:58 and it increases well-being. Absolutely!
11:00 You see, the plant kingdom being relatively moderate in protein,
11:06 doesn't overload the body's system with some of these
11:09 competing amino acids.
11:11 You know, tryptophan has some competitors,
11:13 and if you eat a high protein diet,
11:16 you get more of these competing amino acids
11:19 and so you get lower blood levels of tryptophan,
11:22 and you get less serotonin made in a brain.
11:25 And you don't feel as good about yourself and basically...
11:27 That's exactly right!
11:28 What's another reason to have a diet high in carbs?
11:31 Well, some of the other reasons,
11:32 and we can again go to our graphics...
11:35 But some of the other reasons is that right alongside the
11:41 carbohydrates are some of the protective nutrients,
11:45 and we'll get more to that in a minute.
11:47 In fact, I want to show a document that I have here
11:49 but there is also important receptors that are on
11:54 each of the cells in our bodies.
11:55 "Glucoproteins" and glycolipids, is that right?
11:59 Glycolipids and glycoproteins.
12:01 Okay, and what do they do?
12:02 Well actually, for example, most people are familiar with
12:04 their blood type, you know, A positive or A negative
12:07 Actually these letters in your blood type refer to
12:11 the carbohydrates, the specialized sugars
12:15 that are actually hanging off of
12:17 proteins on your red blood cell membranes.
12:21 And so all of the cells in the body have receptors;
12:24 they have proteins on the surface and also have fats,
12:27 of course, in the membrane, and off of these proteins,
12:30 and off of these fats are different specialized sugars
12:33 and these sugars are what help the body
12:36 to communicate with itself.
12:38 In fact, the immune system can recognize a cell in the
12:42 body based on that sugar, that carbohydrate that is
12:47 sticking out there in space off of the cell membrane...
12:50 And so, carbohydrates are very important for communication
12:53 in the body and these very
12:55 sophisticated immune system mechanisms.
12:57 So if you have a low carb diet, your body wouldn't
13:01 be maybe as apt at communicating.
13:03 Well that's exactly right!
13:05 So it's like having more than 2 or 3 telephone lines.
13:08 You know, if you don't have the raw material to make these
13:13 communications and to send those messages over those lines,
13:16 the communication is going to break down.
13:18 What's another reason for...
13:20 Well some of the other reasons are...
13:23 Probably my most popular reason is the fact that people
13:30 are able to actually endure and actually have a stronger
13:34 sense of strength.
13:38 Physical endurance, you are talking about.
13:39 One of the things that has been found as a side effect
13:44 of these low carbohydrate diets is that people have fatigue.
13:47 In fact, that was the #2 complaint of individuals
13:51 that get on these kind of diets.
13:53 The most common complaint was constipation
13:56 because fiber and carbohydrates are stuck right there together.
14:00 So physical endurance is important.
14:02 In fact, there were studies done a number of years ago,
14:07 several decades ago by Dr. Ostrand,
14:10 who actually put these athletes on a bicycle,
14:14 and they actually pedaled those bicycles
14:16 until they were no longer able to continue...
14:18 until they were TOTALLY EXHAUSTED!
14:20 And they gave these athletes 3 different diets in succession
14:24 with the washout periods in between,
14:27 and what they found is when they put these individuals
14:30 on a HIGH PROTEIN, LOW CARBOHYDRATE diet, they were
14:34 able to go about an hour on the bicycle before they were...
14:37 That's not very long... Not very long before they
14:39 were totally exhausted; these are fit, well-trained athletes.
14:42 Now, then they put them on a mixed diet which we might call a
14:46 meat and potatoes diet which has sort of a moderate
14:49 amount of protein, moderate amount of carbohydrate.
14:52 Then they went about 2 hours on these bicycles before
14:54 they were totally exhausted...
14:56 And THEN, they put these same trained athletes on a
15:02 HIGH carbohydrate, low protein diet...
15:04 Creator's diet type thing. Creator's diet!
15:06 Plant-based diet and they went for almost 3 hours.
15:11 Now there are researchers in Finland who have been
15:14 experimenting with this and in one of their reviews,
15:17 they have noted that you don't actually need meat for endurance
15:22 in physical athletes, you know,
15:26 endurance athletes, don't need meat.
15:27 In fact, they discovered that individuals are able to
15:30 go at sprints anywhere from 2 to 7 minutes LONGER
15:35 ...They call these anaerobic sprints because basically,
15:39 they're moving their muscles so rapidly that they have to use
15:43 more than just oxygen burning in the cell to get the job done,
15:47 and on a high carbohydrate diet,
15:49 they were able to go several minutes longer.
15:50 We've been talking with Dr. Tim Arnott
15:53 He is a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America
15:56 in Oklahoma, and we're learning some fascinating things about
16:00 these low carb diets.
16:01 We found that the Creator's prescription is actually better!
16:04 When we come back, we're going to look at
16:06 some more about low carb and high carb diets.
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17:13 Welcome back, we've been talking with Dr. Tim Arnott
17:16 He is a physician at the Lifestyle Center in Oklahoma
17:20 And, every day you are helping people kind of sort out these
17:23 things about low carb diets or high carb diets,
17:26 what's healthy for them, and whatnot.
17:28 Let's summarize a little bit what we've learned.
17:30 Even though there is a lot of wisdom out there
17:34 supposedly saying that we need to look at low carb diets,
17:37 there are really good reasons to look at
17:40 complex carbohydrates in the diet.
17:43 Absolutely, we basically have learned that not all
17:46 carbohydrates are created equal.
17:48 There are good carbohydrates and there are bad carbohydrates.
17:51 And the good ones are the complex ones;
17:53 foods as grown. Exactly!
17:55 In fact, one of the things that is driving this whole discussion
17:59 and this whole interest in low carb diets is the fact that
18:02 most of the carbohydrates that have been available
18:04 in this country have been the BAD kind;
18:07 the white flour, the refined pasta, the white potatoes,
18:12 and these are the kind of foods that frankly are just not
18:17 helping a society that is largely overweight.
18:19 What is the most important reason to choose
18:22 a good carbohydrate-rich food?
18:27 I think, frankly, one of most important reasons
18:31 is reflected in this document here,
18:33 the U.S. Department of Agriculture database
18:36 for the flavonoid content of selected foods.
18:39 Now flavonoids are one of the protective chemicals
18:43 that the plants actually use and generate when they are
18:47 trying to protect themselves.
18:49 I mean, it's a harsh world out there,
18:51 and apples, pears and different fruits and vegetables
18:56 generate these protective nutrients...
18:59 Flavonoids sounds almost like a flavor to me,
19:00 but you're saying it's a protective thing.
19:02 It's a protective chemical that the plant makes
19:05 in order to protect itself from its environment.
19:07 When you EAT those flavonoids, those chemicals actually
19:11 protect your cells from injury and damage.
19:14 So an apple a day keeps the invaders away... truly!
19:17 Absolutely, we're told that apples are probably
19:19 one of THE MOST beneficial fruits out there.
19:23 Macintosh apples - perhaps? Absolutely!
19:27 Now this is 60 pages right here
19:30 from the U.S. Department of Agriculture...
19:33 It just goes through in regular small print,
19:37 all of the different flavonoids that have been discovered
19:41 in PLANTS! I emphasize PLANTS.
19:43 They are ONLY found in plants and you are only going to
19:46 find them in foods that contain CARBOHYDRATES.
19:51 So carbohydrates are packaged by the Creator
19:54 next to protective foods.
19:56 And if you don't get the carbohydrates,
19:58 you are going to miss what is packaged with the carbohydrates.
20:01 Not only will you not have a sense of well-being
20:04 because there is not enough serotonin,
20:05 not only will you not have the communication you need,
20:08 not only will you not have the endurance,
20:10 but then you're a sitting duck,
20:11 you are not going to be able to be protected!
20:13 Absolutely, and there are other nutrients, not just flavonoids.
20:16 There are antioxidants, the vitamin C, vitamin E,
20:21 the carotenes, beta, gamma, and all these different
20:25 nutrients that provide color for the plant.
20:28 Now those pigments that provide the red of the tomato,
20:32 the yellow-orange of the sweet potato...
20:34 when they get inside the body...
20:36 You know, in the plant, they were used to absorb the
20:39 ionizing radiation that's from the ultraviolet light
20:42 protecting that tomato from a sunburn when it sits
20:45 out there in the sun for 8 hours in Oklahoma.
20:48 When you eat that lycopene, when you eat that pigment,
20:51 that colored chemical, it actually protects YOUR body
20:55 from the damaging effects of what we call "free radicals"
20:58 which are these highly reactive, highly unstable oxygen chemicals
21:03 I know a couple of those people!
21:04 Free radicals - but it's really food.
21:06 Okay, I think you've convinced everybody to really take
21:10 another look at this if they were leaning towards the
21:13 low carb or maybe even on that low-carb thing,
21:15 but what problems are really created by
21:19 low carb, high protein diets?
21:21 I think you have a graphic on this.
21:22 Yes, we do and one of the major concerns
21:26 of researchers that are looking at these high protein diets,
21:31 these low carbohydrate diets...
21:35 Leach minerals from bones it says?
21:37 One of the major groups that are looking to lose weight in this
21:41 country are those that have insulin resistance and diabetes.
21:45 Well if you have insulin resistance and diabetes,
21:48 your kidneys are at risk.
21:50 Your kidneys are already injured to a certain extent
21:54 and certainly when you get into diabetes,
21:55 you have early kidney injury,
21:58 and, I mean, your kidneys can actually FAIL,
22:01 and that's one of the major causes of kidney failure.
22:04 Well, to put those individuals with insulin resistance,
22:08 diabetes and kidneys at risk, on a HIGH protein diet
22:12 is just ASKING for trouble because the kidney
22:16 is the major burden-bearer of all this excess protein -
22:20 because protein cannot be stored;
22:21 it simply has to be broken down, turned into waste
22:24 and it goes out through the kidneys.
22:26 So if somebody has diabetes or if someone in their family did,
22:29 or different things, ESPECIALLY avoid
22:31 these high protein, low carb diets,
22:34 but on the graphic we looked at, it talked about
22:36 leaching things from the bones; what's that?
22:39 What actually happens when you have TOO MUCH protein,
22:43 when you have 2 or 3 times the recommended daily allowance
22:48 of protein - this actually increases the
22:51 acid level of the blood.
22:52 In fact, these proteins are converted into ammonia;
22:55 they are converted into sulfates from the
22:58 sulfur-containing amino acids and as soon as these acids
23:03 are released into the bloodstream,
23:05 they stimulate a cell that lives
23:08 in your bones called the "osteoclast"
23:11 which its job is just like a sound...
23:15 It's kind of a removal of bone matrix inside of your bones -
23:20 because there are buffers in your bones,
23:23 the citrate and the carbonate.
23:25 So the protein does this and it
23:26 stimulates that, and then what happens?
23:28 It starts to suck things out of the bone?
23:29 The cell actually is activated inside your bone
23:33 to get out the buffers that are going to get rid of that acid.
23:36 And these buffers, again, are citrate and carbonate...
23:40 So this can cause osteoporosis if you're on these.
23:42 Right, as those buffers are being released from the bones,
23:44 the calcium goes out with it.
23:45 And so calcium levels go up in the urine;
23:48 you're at higher risk for kidney stones,
23:50 and it's just an increased burden on the kidney.
23:53 We have some other problems we want to look at.
23:55 Let's look at them quickly because we only have about
23:57 4 minutes and I want to get to
23:58 also some good news at the end here.
24:00 What are some of the other problems?
24:02 We've got high cholesterol levels.
24:04 How does that work, briefly - How does that work?
24:07 Well, actually a very interesting study was done by
24:10 Dr. O'Dea and her colleagues
24:11 at the University of Melbourne in Australia,
24:14 and what Dr. O'Dea found is she actually studied individuals
24:18 WITH diabetes.
24:19 She put them on 4 different diets.
24:21 And, in short, one of these diets was
24:24 HIGH carbohydrate, HIGH fiber;
24:27 in other words, a plant diet, foods eaten as grown
24:30 as you mentioned earlier.
24:32 And one of the other diets was a HIGH protein, low fat diet,
24:37 low carbohydrate diet.
24:39 And, they actually found that both of those diets
24:43 LOWERED cholesterol.
24:46 But they discovered something very interesting,
24:47 and that was that the high carbohydrate, high fiber diet
24:51 lowered cholesterol TWICE as good, TWICE as well
24:55 as the low carbohydrate, high protein diet.
24:58 So when the Atkins' diet, or something like that,
25:01 says cholesterol is going to go down, it WILL,
25:03 but you can DOUBLE that if you
25:05 are on a complex carbohydrate diet instead of a low carb diet.
25:09 Exactly, and one thing that people should know...
25:11 ANY DIET that restricts your calories,
25:15 is going to lower cholesterol.
25:17 So it doesn't matter - it's not a big thing that a diet will
25:20 lower cholesterol.
25:21 Okay, another problem - let's look at another one here
25:23 on our graphic that you wanted to mention.
25:25 High urine calcium - I guess you've already
25:28 talked about that.
25:29 Yes, as soon as the body tries to get at those buffers
25:32 in the bone to get rid of the acid,
25:34 you're going to be losing calcium,
25:36 and it will go out through the urine
25:38 at greater risk of kidney stones.
25:40 Well doctor, you've talked about why we should avoid those
25:43 low carb diets and move to the complex carbohydrates.
25:48 As we close-up, let's look at some of these reasons
25:51 why medical researchers have found
25:52 low carb diets safe and effective... why is that?
25:55 Well actually, Dr. Brevata and her colleagues,
25:59 at Stanford University, have actually found that
26:03 these diets that a lot of people are adopting
26:06 have not been studied very thoroughly...
26:09 And in fact, one of the diets that is LOWEST in carbohydrates
26:13 has only been studied in 71 people since 1966.
26:16 So the low for these high protein diets,
26:19 they really don't have the research to back-up. Exactly!
26:21 We have about 1-1/2 minutes left,
26:23 what are some other reasons that
26:24 we should look at carbohydrate diets?
26:28 Well I would just like to refer
26:30 to a study by Dr. Richard Fleming in Omaha
26:33 who actually put 2 groups of individuals on 2 different diets
26:39 One, was a HIGH carbohydrate diet, around 70% carbohydrate;
26:43 and another group went on a HIGH protein diet...
26:46 And he actually does nuclear medicine studies to see how much
26:49 blood is getting to the heart muscle.
26:52 And what he discovered was if you went on a
26:54 high carbohydrate diet that was low in fat,
26:57 he had about 40% increase in blood flow to the heart muscle
27:02 of those patients with coronary disease.
27:05 But those who went on the high protein diet as their choice,
27:08 and preferred that, they actually had worsening
27:11 of the blood flow to the heart muscle,
27:14 and so there actually was progression
27:15 of their coronary disease...
27:17 the #1 problem in this country, and so if you've got a diet
27:20 even if it is lowering your cholesterol,
27:22 but if it's worsening the artery situation,
27:25 that's really a liability.
27:27 We've been talking with Dr. Tim Arnott
27:30 He is a physician at the Lifestyle Center of America
27:32 in Oklahoma
27:34 We've been talking about high versus low carb diets.
27:37 We've seen here on this program that
27:39 carbohydrates are not all bad.
27:41 The Creator's diet is actually
27:43 very high in complex carbohydrates,
27:46 and, you know, why is it that people are many times
27:48 interested in these other diets.
27:50 They want good news about maybe their bad habits.
27:52 If that has been your case, take a second look...
27:54 We hope that as a result, you'll have Health for a Lifetime!