Participants: Don Mackintosh, Neil Nedley
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000141
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00:46 Hello and welcome to Health for a Lifetime
00:47 I'm your host Don Macintosh. 00:49 We're glad you've joined us today. 00:51 Today in the studio we're going to be talking with 00:53 Dr. Neil Nedley. 00:54 Dr. Nedley is a physician in internal medicine, specializing 00:58 in the organs of the body and looking a little bit deeper. 01:03 He's done some programs with us before that many 01:06 of you have enjoyed. 01:07 Today we're going to be talking with Dr. Nedley about 01:10 health at all ages, is that what we're talking about? 01:13 That's right, health at every age. 01:15 Every age. 01:16 We don't have to wait until we're older to be healthy. 01:18 We can start even before we're born, perhaps. 01:21 That's the whole point. 01:23 Many people don't worry about their health, Don, until they 01:26 start aging and then they're wanting to try to prevent 01:30 disability, premature death, and that's important, but really 01:34 how well we're functioning at every age is very important. 01:38 If the child isn't functioning well he's not going to be doing 01:42 as well academically, not going to be part of the family unit 01:46 as well, and so it gets down to children and even before 01:50 as you eluded to. 01:52 You're an author, you've written several books that 01:55 have been very well received. 01:57 One is "Proof Positive" that goes through some of the things 02:00 that we'll cover today, but you're working on some more 02:02 material that will come out in the future here. 02:04 We're excited about that. 02:05 You've also written a book on depression. 02:08 Now I want to talk about this health at every age idea. 02:12 When we talk about health at every age, you've alluded 02:16 to the fact that actually a person's health starts before 02:20 they have any decision making process involved in that before 02:24 they're even born. 02:25 Before they're even born. 02:26 Actually their health can be dependant upon their 02:29 parents' health at the time they're conceived. 02:33 Time they're conceived. 02:34 So just when, so to speak, they're a twinkle in 02:36 their dad's eye or their mom's eye. 02:38 Exactly. 02:39 People out there that are beginning to think about 02:42 starting a family or they want that to happen 02:45 especially they need to listen up to what 02:47 your about to say now. 02:48 What are you going to tell us? 02:49 The dad's health is actually just as important as the 02:53 mother's health at the time they conceive. 02:56 The dad's health! 02:57 The dad's health. 02:58 Now you wouldn't think that. 02:59 Normally a dad just thinks, 03:00 "Well, it's all her, it's the women" 03:02 That's right and it's all put on her, she's pregnant, etc. 03:06 But we have to back up from the time the woman finds out 03:09 that she's pregnant and then all of a sudden she's interested 03:12 in being healthy for the baby's sake. 03:14 We need to back up before that and she needs to be very 03:17 interested in her husband's health if they are planning on 03:20 having children and conceiving. 03:22 So what should she be saying to her husband about his health? 03:25 What kind of things does he need to be watching? 03:27 Nutrition is an important aspect. 03:30 Actually it boils down to just two large areas. 03:34 The dad's health is dependant on what the dad is putting into 03:38 his body and what the dad is doing with his body. 03:40 What he's putting into his body can have a lot of importance 03:45 in regards to how high a quality the sperm is that he is donating 03:52 to the person. 03:54 How often is sperm replaced? 03:57 How healthy does he have to be for how long before conception? 04:00 It's about a week process. 04:02 If you go back to the forerunning of a sperm 04:06 it could be even up to a month. 04:08 But actually sperm is turned over every few days. 04:13 Really if he's planning on conceiving, if he would change 04:17 his life and get much healthier for 30 days before conception 04:21 he could do a lot of good. 04:22 So slow down, don't go to those fast food restaurants, 04:25 so what kind of things are we talking about? 04:27 What kind of things does he need to be putting in 04:29 before conception? 04:32 We're trying to prevent sperm damage. 04:34 The sperm is damaged by what we call pro-oxidants. 04:39 For instance cigarette smoking has an increase risk of damaging 04:45 the sperm and if the sperm is damaged at the time of 04:48 conception that baby may end up with a childhood malignancy 04:52 such as a brain tumor or a whelms kidney tumor 04:56 or even leukemia. 04:58 All from cigarette smoke. 05:00 All from cigarette smoke in the dad 05:02 at the time of conception. 05:03 And is it them smoking or even second hand smoke? 05:06 Second had smoke can play a role as well but more 05:09 important is their own smoking. 05:11 So stop smoking if you're thinking about having a child? 05:13 Exactly. 05:14 All right, what else? 05:16 In addition to that, being on a high anti-oxidant diet 05:20 can help prevent that damage as well. 05:23 High anti-oxidants, you're saying that the sperm is going 05:27 to be damaged I suppose by what they call 05:29 free radicals or something? 05:30 Correct. 05:32 Explain what a free radical is. 05:33 I've always found that term very interesting. 05:36 Free radicals are present in the environment. 05:39 0-3 or ozone actually is a free radical. 05:44 It turns into an 0-2 and then a free oxygen molecule 05:48 that can produce a lot of damage as it bounces around. 05:53 So what can we do to protect us against these free radicals? 05:58 Well actually the study that was done on preventing childhood 06:02 malignancy, looking back at the father's health showed that the 06:06 amount of vitamin C he was consuming at the time of 06:10 conception was critical in preventing the damage 06:13 from the free radicals. 06:15 So you mean at the time of conception, 06:16 that would be like that month before. 06:18 Exactly. 06:19 So what, get a big supplement, get a bottle of vitamin C 06:23 and have it by your bed at all times? 06:25 That actually will protect some up to 250 mg or more 06:29 of vitamin C a day can be protective for the sperm. 06:34 But better than the antioxidant pills in the bottles are the 06:39 antioxidant fruits and vegetables. 06:42 And the fruits and vegetables that are high in vitamin C. 06:45 Because not only will you get the benefit of the vitamin C 06:49 but you also get the benefit of a number of other 06:52 antioxidants in those fruits and vegetables. 06:54 So let's take a look at those and see what they would be. 06:57 I think we have a graphic on that. 06:58 Yes, we have foods that are high in vitamin C and 07:01 fortunately fruit is a good source: 07:20 Broccoli, notice it says "raw" the reason why is when we cook 07:22 a vegetable or fruit it will destroy about half 07:25 of the vitamin C. 07:47 And then we get into the foods that are very high in vitamin C 08:00 Brussels sprouts is loaded with vitamin C, so much so 08:03 that even if we boil Brussels sprouts and destroy 1/2 of 08:06 the vitamin C, we're still going to end up with 98 mg 08:09 in a cup of Brussels sprouts. 08:11 Orange juice, notice if it's fresh it's 124 mg. 08:16 The ready to serve orange juice that's sitting on the shelf 08:19 in the grocery stores, the vitamin C gets destroyed 08:22 over time. 08:23 Just a couple weeks on the shelf and you'll have about 1/2 08:27 of that vitamin C. 08:28 You'll actually do better in getting the orange juice 08:31 from orange concentrate, that preserves the vitamin C. 08:35 Or if you do it yourself and actually juice it yourself. 08:47 So you can see, Don, that it wouldn't be hard if you're on 08:51 a diet particularly that has more raw fruits and vegetables 08:55 in them to be easily getting your 250 mg of vitamin C a day. 09:00 So if you're a wife and your husband just really doesn't like 09:03 healthy foods like this or he'll eat whatever you make 09:07 for him, it's a good time for the wife to take the husband 09:10 out to some kind of restaurant that has all those things 09:13 on the salad bar. 09:14 Yes, that's right or just go to the grocery store and to 09:17 the produce section. 09:18 That would be better than most restaurants. 09:21 I can just see it now, all these young couples 09:23 in the produce section, getting their red bell peppers, kiwis, 09:28 hey you know, Brussels sprouts, I got to confess, 09:30 Brussels sprouts, I really almost loath Brussels sprouts, 09:33 but now I know why they taste like that, they're just like a 09:36 vitamin C pill that's not sweet. 09:38 I don't think this is going to affect a global economy of 09:42 Brussels sprout consumption because I said this but... 09:46 So all those different things vitamin C, 09:49 that gives us protection. 09:50 Vitamin C protects the sperm from genetic damage 09:52 Anything else you want to say about the men, 09:55 these men that are thinking about having children? 09:57 You've told them they need to step up to the plate and 10:00 put the right things on the plate. 10:01 Anything else they need to know? 10:02 The other thing is even in regards to whether they have a 10:06 job or not can be important. 10:07 Well, these women watching today are going to love this! 10:12 "Get out there, get a job!" 10:13 What does this have to do with it? 10:15 Actually studies show that once a woman does conceive 10:20 and is pregnant, if the man is unemployed, she will have a 10:24 marked increase risk of pregnancy complications 10:27 then if her husband is employed in a work environment. 10:31 Wow, so you need to get a job! 10:34 Any kind of job? Wal Mart? 10:36 In the study they didn't look at the types of jobs. 10:39 They just looked at whither they had a job or not. 10:42 So get a job! 10:44 If you're thinking of having... you know that's 10:47 good sense any way, right? 10:48 Because you're going to have to support... 10:49 You're going to have to provide for your family. 10:51 Probably that increases the stress. 10:52 I mean, hey, we've got this baby coming and... 10:54 Right, the husband is unemployed. 10:56 But actually, even if they were on the state system, 10:59 the state support system, in fact the study was done in 11:02 Scandinavia where if a husband doesn't have a job, they're 11:06 pretty well supported by the more socialist countries 11:09 over there. 11:10 But even despite the financial support that comes from 11:14 unemployment, the study showed that being employed dramatically 11:18 reduced the risk of pregnancy complications in the female. 11:22 What about a person who just can't get a job? 11:24 And I should mention, to clarify, that last statement 11:26 I made; that's employment of the husband 11:29 Of the husband, not of the wife. 11:30 Not of the wife, in fact we can get into that when we cover 11:34 woman's health aspect of things. 11:36 So what if you can't get a job? 11:37 I mean you really, truly can't get a job. 11:40 All these guys out there that are doing this, their sighing... 11:42 Well, that's a good point because there are some things 11:45 that man can do as well. 11:46 Being supportive to his wife during her pregnancy, not adding 11:51 to her stress level, but actually doing what he can 11:54 to decrease the stress level will help out significantly. 11:59 Ok, well, is it... the men are really miffed at this point! 12:03 They got to get a job, they're going to have to eat all the 12:07 Brussels sprouts, you've got the broccoli, anything you can do... 12:11 Anything else about the men? 12:13 They're beaten down now but... anything else we can do 12:16 to help them? 12:17 Well, actually if they're on a general exercise program 12:19 during this time that can help them as well. 12:22 Actually, this is all good stuff for you men, 12:24 don't be feeling bad about it, this is 12:27 excellent stuff, actually. 12:28 Should be doing it anyway, right? 12:30 When you understand that your not only helping your yourself 12:33 in this process, but you are helping a little one 12:37 for the rest of their life in doing these habits it really 12:40 takes on an added responsibility and is an added motivational 12:44 factor for the husband to do what's right as he's planning 12:48 on starting a family. 12:49 The Bible says, "No one lives to themselves," I mean 12:52 what we do impacts others. 12:55 I think it's a very profound thing that you've brought to 12:58 our attention because if we thought that way more often 13:01 there would be a lot less problems of every kind. 13:03 Yes, exactly. 13:05 That's why things can be passed on to the third and fourth 13:07 generation and the Bible also talks about that. 13:10 I guess that's part of being a man though, anyway, really 13:12 a definition of being a man would be someone that's going 13:14 to take responsibility. 13:16 Correct. 13:17 We've been talking with Dr. Neal Nedley. 13:19 He's an internist from Ardmore, Oklahoma. 13:22 He's also a best selling author. 13:24 He's written several books, one called "Proof Positive" that 13:27 deals with general health of every kind. 13:29 Another one, "Depression the Way Out" and other books that 13:32 are forth coming as well. 13:34 We've talked a little bit about the dad and conception. 13:37 When we come back we're going to talk about the mom. 13:41 So join us when we come back. 13:43 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 13:45 shed a few pounds? 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" 15:03 But today we've been talking with Dr. Nedley about a 15:06 fascinating subject - Health at Every Age. 15:09 As we've been talking with the Dr. we've learned... well Dr. 15:12 what have we learned? 15:13 We've learned that health even begins before we're born 15:16 based on decisions our parents make, our father and mother. 15:19 And we were kind of picking on the dads to start out with 15:22 because they need to take responsibility of 15:24 eating the right things. 15:25 And they really need to stop smoking before the baby is born. 15:30 It dramatically increases the health and prevents childhood 15:34 malignancies. 15:36 You're saying at least a month before conception so that it's 15:39 not damaging the sperm. 15:40 Correct. 15:41 Ok, let's come back now... I know that we've come down hard 15:45 on the men but what about the ladies? 15:47 Do they have some things they need to think about? 15:49 Yes, they are donating half of the genetic material. 15:53 So what we've said about vitamin C can also apply to the 15:56 woman. 15:57 Also, very important is the woman's mental health during 16:03 her pregnancy. 16:05 Actually women who are more stressed out, those that are 16:13 involved in higher stress jobs have about a five-fold increase 16:17 risk in pregnancy complications compared to women who are 16:21 handling stress better and not having all these stressors 16:24 coming at them. 16:26 Well, that kind of comes back to the men again. 16:30 For the ladies themselves, it's good for them to be able to 16:34 start saying, "No, I can't do that"... it's ok to say no. 16:37 It's alright to say, "No. " 16:38 In fact, actually this is even more critical during the 16:42 first pregnancy. 16:43 There is a complication that occurs in one out of every ten 16:48 first pregnancies, called pre-eclampsia. 16:51 Pre-eclampsia... I know that's something... 'pre' means before 16:53 'eclampsia' I'm not sure. 16:54 What's this mean? 16:55 Pre-eclampsia is a condition of the placenta. 17:00 Of course that supplies the nutrients to the baby and 17:05 filters things from the mother and then supplies 17:08 them to the baby. 17:09 The placenta itself can undergo some transformation, 17:13 again caused by free radicals, that actually threaten the 17:18 health of the mother and the baby. 17:20 The mother will get high blood pressure during this time. 17:23 She will get a lot of swelling, in what we call pitting edema, 17:27 where if you press on the ankle it will leave a pit there. 17:31 A urine test will actually show that she is starting to dump 17:36 protein in her urine. 17:37 And when those three things happen, 17:39 then that's pre-eclampsia. 17:40 Meaning that if the trend continues and the trend is not 17:45 reversed, the woman will go into eclampsia. 17:48 The difference there is, the woman actually seizes. 17:51 She goes into a seizure that can be life threatening 17:54 to her and also very life threatening 17:57 for the unborn child. 17:59 And all these can be prevented by decreasing the stress 18:03 and having the kind of nutrition she needs. 18:05 Exactly. 18:06 Interestingly, women who are not working, particularly in 18:10 their second and third trimester actually do better. 18:16 Their risk is less of developing eclampsia. 18:20 And that underscores again the additional reason why it would 18:24 be beneficial for the man to work during this time. 18:27 Well, this is a big thing, I mean there are so many 18:30 single moms out there, you understand that. 18:32 What would you do if you're a single mom? 18:34 Well, there are some other things you can do as well. 18:36 First of all, it's important for you to design your schedule 18:40 and maybe say, "No," to decrease the amount of stress the woman 18:44 is having during the time of the first pregnancy. 18:47 But also important is her diet. 18:49 Because if she is on a diet that is high in anti-oxidants 18:53 that can prevent the free radical damage that occurs 18:56 to the placenta that sets this whole process off. 18:59 I can almost hear a court case coming up where someone says, 19:02 "Hey, you made me work too much" to their employer "and there's 19:05 all these studies that say that if I work this happens. " 19:08 "So you should have let me off work and you pay for this. " 19:10 Well... 19:12 You're not meaning to start this revolution I understand? 19:15 No, no, I'm not meaning to start this, that would get into the 19:18 politics of things, but in reality, it would be healthier 19:22 for the mom to at least not have a stressful job during the time 19:27 that she's carrying the unborn. 19:29 Anything else that moms can do? 19:31 Foods high in anti-oxidants, that's critically important. 19:36 Not only is vitamin C important but also the total anti-oxidant 19:42 burden, in fact there's several nutrients that come down 19:47 as being very favorable in preventing these 19:50 pregnancy complications. 19:51 I think vitamin C is an anti-oxidant. 19:53 Vitamin C is an anti-oxidant and that's one of 19:55 the critical nutrients. 19:56 In fact one of the studies is being done currently 20:01 is to actually even give I-V vitamin C to the woman after 20:05 she's gone into pre-eclampsia to try to prevent the eclampsia. 20:08 But the best way of doing this is before you get pre-eclamptic 20:12 to be eating those vitamin C vegetables. 20:14 But not only vitamin C, Don, but also foods high in vitamin E 20:18 Those are the two most potent anti-oxidant nutrients that we 20:21 consume is vitamin C and vitamin E. 20:24 In addition to that vitamin B-2 or riboflavin is critically 20:29 important and selenium an anti-oxidant mineral that is 20:34 present particularly in whole grain foods is critically 20:38 important in helping to prevent this pre-eclampsia. 20:41 Well, let's look a little closer at a list of those. 20:44 I think we have the top 10 anti-oxidants. 20:46 We have the vitamin C for the guy and we need that for the 20:49 gal as well, but we'll look here and see what we have in terms 20:53 of anti-oxidants: 22:11 Garlic not only helps with the anti-oxidant load but it is 22:17 an anti-bacterial agent and can prevent infections. 22:21 Is it ok for a pregnant lady to take garlic? 22:25 Oh, yes, it's actually healthy for her. 22:28 It can prevent the pre-eclampsia and other complications 22:31 we've been talking about. 22:33 Not just before conception but it's ok, even if they get a 22:36 little cold, to be taking garlic during their pregnancy? 22:39 That's right. 22:40 There are studies indicating that even garlic gargles can 22:45 help when we have a cold and things of that nature. 22:48 I can see people rushing to their sinks right now! 22:50 Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle! 22:52 Getting these foods high in anti-oxidants is good for the 22:57 mom and for the dad. 22:59 I mean I can see them all going to the super market right now 23:02 and getting all those things together. 23:04 What else can the mom do? 23:06 In addition to that, it's important for her to 23:09 avoid toxins. 23:11 She needs to also not be smoking. 23:13 Critically important, she should not be consuming any alcohol 23:18 whatsoever. 23:19 Alcohol can play with the fetal brain and can actually decrease 23:24 the brain ability of that child and that person throughout life. 23:29 How about caffeine? 23:30 Caffeine is actually is best to avoid as well. 23:33 There are a few studies indicating that the higher 23:36 the caffeine consumption the lower the birth weight 23:40 in the child and of course the lower the birth weight 23:43 the higher the complication risk for that child throughout life. 23:48 If the birth weight is lower, does that mean that their 23:50 head will be smaller and the brain will be smaller too? 23:53 Actually it does. 23:55 There are studies indicating the higher the birth weight 23:58 the higher volume of the brain and actually the larger 24:02 the brain will become. 24:03 Now that's up to a point. 24:05 You can get too large. 24:07 Like a diabetic baby? 24:09 Right, exactly. 24:10 That's not going to be beneficial. 24:13 For babies, particularly under 10 pounds, the closer we get 24:17 to 8, 9 pounds babies actually the healthier they tend to be 24:22 throughout the rest of their life. 24:24 So decreasing the stress, not really working as much, at least 24:30 the second and third trimester, making sure they get 24:33 anti-oxidants, making sure they avoid toxins,... 24:36 anything else? 24:37 Well, one of the other toxins that many of the medical 24:40 associations are picking up is mercury. 24:42 The highest amount of mercury in the food supply is in fish 24:48 and sea food. 24:49 Many of the medical associations are telling pregnant women to 24:53 avoid fish and sea food consumption. 24:56 So say goodbye to Red Lobster? 24:58 That's right because mercury is there and the mercury can get 25:03 into the fetus, it does cross the placenta and cause problems. 25:07 What kind of problems would it cause? 25:08 It can cause anywhere from infertility before they get 25:12 pregnant to if they're already pregnant causing even a higher 25:17 risk of depression in the baby once it's born. 25:20 Oh! Ok so the people out there that are having problems with 25:23 fertility it might be good to just say "no" to the sea food 25:26 and go see some different food, that being anti-oxidants, and 25:30 maybe they'll turn that around. 25:31 Anti-oxidants and plant foods that are high in Omega 3. 25:35 You know we have this dichotomy in fish where they have Omega 3 25:40 which is beneficial, but in the industrial society in which we 25:43 are living in today, a fish is more toxin laden 25:47 than ever before. 25:48 And so the answer to that is to get the Omega 3 25:50 from plant sources. 25:52 Now do you have a book coming out that's going to have all 25:54 pre-conception recipes? 25:56 Yes, actually, we're entitling the book, 25:59 "Health at Every Age. " 26:01 You'll have that in there? 26:02 We'll have recipes for pre-conception. 26:05 Oh, really? 26:07 Yes we are! 26:08 And we are going to have recipes during pregnancy, 26:10 getting enough of the protein, enough of the iron, calcium, 26:14 some of the other nutrients we haven't mentioned here. 26:15 And then getting even to the health of the infant and child 26:20 and recipes for children. 26:21 Maybe we could call it February 14 foods. 26:23 There you go. 26:25 Valentine foods! 26:27 Oh, that's going to be excellent! 26:28 So we've talked about health at every age, we talked about 26:31 mother, we've talked about the father, what about grandparents? 26:33 Well, grandparents can play a role too, because obviously 26:37 grandparents can influence their children in eating habits and 26:42 their grandchildren. 26:43 Having a structured family were there's support on the 26:47 grandparents side of things is important. 26:49 I know I'm blessed by having my mother-in-law live near by 26:53 and that's a great blessing. 26:54 I know you're also blessed in the same way, aren't you? 26:57 Exactly, mother-in-law and father-in-law. 26:59 To be able to have multiple adults, the more the better 27:04 raising these little ones is a real help. 27:06 It is a real help. 27:07 But interestingly, Don, the mental health of the child 27:10 also has another dependant factor, and that is that they're 27:13 being raised by both biological parents. 27:16 So they need to be involved. 27:17 You don't want to have the grandparents alone 27:19 raising the children. 27:20 Unfortunately we see that more in society. 27:23 Studies show that if they're raised by both biological 27:25 parents they come out healthier. 27:27 We've been talking with Dr. Neal Nedley. 27:29 We've been talking about health at every age. 27:31 We've focused on health before the baby is even born. 27:35 There have been some pretty practical things 27:37 coming out of this program. 27:38 Those men out there need to get a job, they need to be eating 27:41 the right foods, and those ladies need to be backing away, 27:44 all the different things have been summarized here. 27:45 If you just joined us you'll want to get this program. 27:48 It's something that has a lot of real practical value. 27:50 We've been talking with Dr. Nedley. 27:52 He's a physician, he's an author, he's written some things 27:55 on many of these subjects. 27:56 We hope it will help you and have health for a lifetime. |
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