Health for a Lifetime

The Flu

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Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), David DeRose

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00:50 Hello and welcome to Health For A Lifetime.
00:52 I am your host Don Mackintosh.
00:53 We are glad that you joined us today.
00:54 We are going to be talking about the flu.
00:57 Many different types types of flu,
00:58 sometimes it strikes fear in the heart of some,
01:02 but many times throughout the years
01:04 we hear about it especially in the winter months,
01:07 may be getting a flu shot, this or that.
01:09 We are gonna be talking with Dr. David DeRose
01:11 about this exciting and important subject
01:14 and Dr. DeRose you have been
01:16 a physician now for about 20 years.
01:17 That's correct. Specialist in
01:19 Internal Medicine, you've probably seen
01:21 a lot of flu cases over the years.
01:23 You see all kinds of things in Internal Medicine and
01:25 then in Preventive Medicine,
01:27 which is my other boards. I've actually worked
01:29 with immunization strategies for large hospitals system
01:33 at one point in my career, so it was even more
01:35 involved with Influenza in that capacity
01:38 then being in a general practice setting.
01:41 Now you have put all this experience together and
01:45 you have a rather flexible ministry now,
01:48 you are able to do lots of different things,
01:50 you work with different corporations, churches,
01:52 individuals, groups, and you provide a lot of
01:55 education in a lot of different levels,
01:57 professional meetings and also for the loyalty and
02:00 its called compass health,
02:02 and it is compasshealth.net
02:04 That's it, if you want to find
02:06 more information that's all you
02:08 need to remember compasshealth.net
02:09 A lot of free stuff,
02:10 in fact all free stuff on that website.
02:12 Oh! There is a few things you can purchase,
02:13 but most of it is free
02:15 and informational educational material.
02:18 So, we're talking about Avian flu or
02:22 or flu in general, so called Influenza,
02:25 what is it? And how big a problem is it?
02:27 Well it's, I mean it's a good question,
02:28 because I can remember grow, growing up
02:31 that everything was the flu not, not everything
02:34 I'm not speaking of my household in particular,
02:36 but you've heard this, I mean someone said
02:38 well Johnny couldn't come in,
02:39 he's got the stomach flu.
02:40 He is got the stomach flu, he is got the ear flu,
02:41 he is got the nose flu, all kinds of flu.
02:44 Yeah, I mean most people are very nonspecific
02:47 when they use the term flu, it's just like a cold or
02:49 you know colds and flu we often say
02:51 in the same breath. Flu.
02:53 But Influenza is a very serious,
02:57 really viral illness and it is serious for a
03:00 number of reasons, one if you get Influenza
03:03 you're gonna tend to get pretty sick,
03:06 at least if you get the full blown Influenza.
03:08 Throw up, dehydration. Not necessarily,
03:11 now you can, you can get the GI stuff,
03:14 but definitely high fever is classic, cough,
03:18 these are two real hallmarks and then just feeling
03:21 really bad, really wiped out.
03:23 These are probably the three most
03:24 consistent things that we see with Influenza,
03:26 sore throat, the intestinal things.
03:28 Yeah they can be part of the picture.
03:29 I mentioned at the beginning that
03:31 many times we hear about this more
03:32 in the winter months. Why is that?
03:34 Well actually there is a peak,
03:36 there is a spike in Influenza cases
03:39 at least here in the Northern Hemisphere
03:41 during the winter months.
03:43 It appears as a number of reasons for that,
03:45 one actually has to do with the virus itself,
03:48 it does seem to thrive more at colder temperatures,
03:51 but also it has to do with the close proximity
03:55 that we put ourselves into during the winter months.
03:57 We are not outside as much, there is more
03:59 congregating indoors at least that's the take
04:03 from the infectious disease community
04:04 that there is more than one thing happening,
04:06 that then provides an opportunity
04:09 for these Influenza viruses viruses to circulate
04:12 and they are very infectious germs,
04:15 a good example of this is an airplane flight,
04:17 it's actually been studied, if you are on a flight
04:20 for 4-1/2 hours, a long flight okay.
04:23 Yeah. Maybe flying cross country
04:25 whatever and someone on the plane has Influenza
04:29 and they are coughing, 75 percent of the people
04:32 on that plane are going to get Influenza.
04:35 That's what some of the data indicates.
04:37 Is that right? Yeah,
04:38 and this is incredible.
04:39 So, where should you sit on the plane?
04:43 I think there are some other strategies that
04:44 maybe more effective and to get to those
04:47 let me mention an interesting thing,
04:49 a lot of people say I don't need to be
04:51 concerned about Influenza because I never get sick.
04:55 Okay. But there is a problem for
04:57 us as health professionals, clergy
05:01 people that are working with individuals
05:03 are caring for elderly parents.
05:06 why? There is a significant
05:08 percentage of people who when are exposed
05:10 to the Influenza virus, they develop what is called
05:13 an inapparent infection. Inapparent infection,
05:17 they got it, but they don't know it.
05:18 That's right. They actually have the virus,
05:21 they are transmitting the virus when they breath,
05:24 they can transmit it through their hands
05:26 if they rub their nose, whatever the case maybe.
05:29 Shake hands. Shake hands and
05:32 people around them can get the virus from them.
05:34 This is why when I was in hospital
05:36 infectious disease control, we encouraged all our
05:40 employees to get the the flu vaccine
05:41 not for themselves, but especially if
05:44 they are working in the Intensive Care Unit
05:46 they need that vaccine. To protect their patients.
05:48 To protect their patient. So, this is very dangerous,
05:51 how dangerous is it, I mean. To put it in perspective
05:55 you need to recognize that Influenza does not always
05:59 raise its head in the same way,
06:01 Influenza is a fascinating virus and I said
06:04 fascinating because you know, most of us think
06:07 in terms of a virus being one thing we can,
06:10 you know, take a vaccine, develop a vaccine and
06:13 immunize for it. Your kids no doubt
06:16 have probably had some vaccinations done.
06:19 Yes. And so have mine,
06:22 and those vaccines, let's say the vaccine
06:24 was for measles. Measles, mumps, rubella,
06:27 all these. Okay, measles, mumps and
06:28 rubella, all three of those, three different viruses
06:31 they get one shot and all they need is one booster.
06:34 We used to just give one shot.
06:36 So how do we protect them from three viruses.
06:40 I don't know. If one or two shots.
06:42 Never thought about this, how did you do it?
06:43 Well this way and it's not the whole
06:45 question and with Influenza you're supposed
06:48 to get a shot every year. Yeah, how is it?
06:51 What it is, is Influenza is continually changing.
06:55 Morphing. Morphing, good way to
06:57 describe it, okay. Okay.
06:59 Its got these surface projections on the virus,
07:04 there are actually technical names for them,
07:06 but for short we call them
07:08 the H and the N projections. Okay.
07:10 Okay and this has to do with the
07:14 viral characteristics, the H factor has to do
07:18 with its infectivity, its ability to infect
07:21 other cells. Okay.
07:23 And then the N has to do with it's ability to
07:26 release itself from the cells after it takes over
07:30 their genetic capabilities and starts using
07:35 the cells own genetics to make new viruses.
07:39 So, that's how it can all change.
07:40 Yeah, these H and N compounds
07:42 change overtimes especially the H has been
07:44 the most studied, it stands for
07:46 hemagglutinin. This H factor changes overtime,
07:52 it does what we call drifts overtime.
07:55 Drifts into something different.
07:57 Into something different,
07:58 just very gradually, but now why I'm answering
08:03 the question this way Don, if there is just
08:04 a little drift and change from one year
08:08 to the next, which is typical,
08:10 if you are exposed to Influenza next year.
08:14 Okay. The immunity you had
08:15 this year will be partially protective.
08:18 So, it doesn't totally go away, but it's not
08:21 gonna totally do this up. Yes, you're not likely to
08:23 get a severe Influenza case being a healthy young man
08:26 like you are. Thank you.
08:28 Okay. Okay, Good.
08:29 Now If you were debilitated in all,
08:32 that's a different story and that's why we urge
08:34 people that have chronic medical conditions
08:38 or if they are have immune compromise or if they are
08:40 in crowded situations with lots of
08:42 susceptible people like in a nursing home
08:45 environment, that these people have a priority
08:48 when we're immunizing for Influenza each year.
08:51 I've just told you about the drift though,
08:53 there is something else that happens with Influenza
08:55 viruses, bigger changes called Shifts that occur.
08:59 Okay. And some of the most
09:00 traumatic Shifts in Influenza would be an
09:03 actual change in the whole type of the H and N factors
09:10 So if it was H1N1 and it moved to H3H4
09:14 that's totally different. That would be
09:15 totally different. That's not a Shift that's
09:17 a leap or whatever you call. You may call it a Shift
09:21 instead of a drift or you have a dramatic change
09:25 and so the. The body is not ready
09:26 at all. The body is not ready
09:27 for it and what we've been seeing historically over
09:31 the last several decades we have been seeing H1N1
09:34 that's one variety and the other variety we have been
09:36 seeing is H3N2, we have been seeing variations on that.
09:40 What people are getting very concerned about is the
09:44 emergency of another pattern, which is H5N1.
09:49 H5N1, so that's totally different.
09:51 Totally different, still Influenza virus,
09:53 but these different surface projections.
09:55 And so there is no real way to fight against it.
09:59 We don't have the immunity developed against H5N1.
10:02 So is this why, you know, during 1918 around
10:05 that time they had the so called swine's flu
10:08 that was a totally different H1N, H and N projection.
10:13 Yeah, this is very interesting.
10:15 And I don't know where they get
10:16 these specimens from. I haven't looked
10:18 into this, but supposedly and
10:21 you know its coming from reputable scientific sources.
10:23 They are actually specimens that date back to 1918,
10:27 this great flu epidemic killed 21 million people,
10:30 that was what we call a pandemic.
10:32 That was huge. It was huge,
10:33 sweeping the whole world something like
10:34 500,000 deaths here in the Unites States.
10:37 All traced to the pigs. Well, the interesting
10:40 thing about this Don is when they've looked at these,
10:42 the first day, when they looked at these
10:44 specimens they were saying it were H1N1,
10:47 now some of the latest stuff that's come out
10:48 its saying that this was an avian flu.
10:52 Avian, it wasn't the pigs. It wasn't the pigs,
10:54 it was an H5N1, but the pigs maybe
10:56 part of the story. Well, okay
10:57 how did the pigs factor end? You know, its very
10:59 interesting, you and I have studied some of the
11:02 Biblical counsel about health.
11:04 Don't eat pigs. Don't eat pigs.
11:06 And don't eat most birds. But, you know,
11:07 I think about it, if the whole world was
11:11 following God's counsel about pig not being
11:16 a consumption item. How many pigs you think
11:19 there be in the world? Probably a lot more
11:22 than they are now. A lot of more than
11:23 they are now, because people wouldn't be
11:25 eating them or what.
11:27 Right, 'cause people wouldn't be eating them.
11:29 Well, I mean sure there will be more pigs
11:31 in the wild, but most of the pigs
11:33 that we have got today are domestic pigs.
11:35 Okay, we just say, they have many farms.
11:38 Exactly. Alright, it's interesting
11:40 right, so there be a lot less pigs
11:42 and they'd be in the wild roaming around.
11:44 So let's, let me come to the scenario with you
11:46 because we are talking here about H5N1,
11:49 this is the so called avian flu.
11:50 Right. That's been getting a lot of
11:52 attention since 1997 or so when we started seeing
11:56 these outbreaks in Asia, people who are in close
11:59 proximity to birds getting the so called avian flu,
12:03 H5N1. This particular virus up
12:08 through like 2005, no human transmission
12:14 of significance, only if they are in close
12:17 proximity to birds, a few household contacts
12:21 getting it from another human, but very, very
12:24 difficult to transmit human to human.
12:26 No potential in the avian flu virus
12:30 to cause a pandemic. Okay, then what happened?
12:33 Coming back to 1918. With the pigs.
12:36 With the pigs and with the pigs today.
12:39 One of the theories with how avian flu can morph
12:43 into a virus that can then effect humans is there
12:47 some type of third host. A pig.
12:51 Like a pig that is susceptible to both human
12:54 Influenza virus and avian Influenza virus.
12:58 That mixes them together. That's right,
12:59 it get's a co-infection or somehow transmission,
13:02 a viral material and worldwide you come out
13:05 with a virus its susceptible for
13:08 human to human transmission. And then someone eats
13:10 the pig and they get it.
13:12 Well, presumably its transmitted aerosol
13:14 route, not only by eating the pig.
13:17 Interesting, so that brings those two together.
13:19 So, is there, you know, there is more and more
13:23 interest in this bird flu and sometimes people would
13:26 call that a scare tactic, some people would say
13:29 hey, its but you are saying there is really something
13:32 to be concerned about.
13:33 Oh no this is, this is a legitimate concern
13:35 and we need to talk about some practical
13:37 things on these matters. Well, we're talking
13:40 with Dr. David DeRose, we're are talking about flu,
13:42 different types of flu and now he's described to us
13:46 some of the mechanics of how flu is both produced,
13:51 the different viruses and now we are gonna talk
13:54 in the second segment about how we can avoid it
13:56 and I think you would be very interested in that
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15:03 Welcome back we are talking with Dr. David DeRose,
15:07 he is a physician in Southern Oklahoma
15:08 and you have a ministry called Compass Health.
15:11 A lot of the different things that you produce,
15:14 you are always doing ongoing research,
15:15 you are always coming up with new presentations
15:18 based on the needs of people around the world.
15:20 And this is one of the needs, people are really
15:23 concerned about flu, but more specifically
15:26 bird flu because it's now been transmitted
15:29 I guess in some places in Asia and
15:31 maybe other places I don't know at the airing
15:33 of this program, what will be true,
15:34 but it's been gone from birds somehow to humans
15:38 and this is causing great concern.
15:39 Yes, but remember what's happened
15:42 you know up through, you know, 1997, '98, '99,
15:46 up to 2005 is this transmission
15:48 was just going to people who were handling the
15:51 birds predominantly, very rare exceptions,
15:54 but very high fatality rates.
15:56 We're talking like 50 percent of the people
15:58 who are getting this H5N1 through this intimate
16:01 contact with birds that are actually succumbing
16:04 to the illness, so very serious
16:06 and that's why earlier in the program
16:07 we talked about how bad Influenza was.
16:11 Yes, you may have had Influenza last year.
16:14 But it morphs, it changes. That's right.
16:16 If you're expose to the H5N1 if that somehow
16:20 morphs into something that just goes between
16:23 birds pretty much right now, into something that
16:26 readily can go from human to human.
16:28 We are talking about having a
16:30 worldwide pandemic. This is gonna sweep
16:32 through populations because we don't have immunity
16:36 to this form of virus
16:37 Umm! So, it's totally different than like say
16:40 you get your measles, mumps, rubella,
16:42 which once you see it, your body sees it.
16:44 It is always ready to attack but this is always
16:47 changing that's right. That's right. That's right.
16:48 Morphing and that's why there is a concern.
16:50 So, vaccinations, flu shots and people be getting
16:53 but they, will they help or they are not
16:55 even really related?
16:57 Well, right now, we don't have a flu shot
16:59 for the H5N1 variety. Which is the avian flu?
17:02 This is the, the avian flu. And part of the reason
17:05 for that at least from my looking end, and again
17:07 I am not an infectious disease expert,
17:09 I am not a virologist. So, I am looking at this
17:12 through the eyes of an internal medicine and
17:14 preventive medicine physician, looking,
17:16 you know, at the literature what appears to really be
17:19 be the problem is we don't have a target yet
17:21 because we don't have a virus that has mutated
17:26 if you will or transformed or morphed or whatever
17:29 into a humanly transmissible form.
17:32 There is not really a practical reason to make
17:34 an vaccine right now, to try to counter
17:38 the avian virus, it is, because this is not
17:40 posing a human threat. That's not the virus
17:43 that we need to vaccine to, you see my point.
17:45 So, what we, what we need it to?
17:47 Well, the problem is we're only going to know
17:51 what the perfect vaccine is for the virus that's being
17:56 transmitted from human to human
17:58 once that virus emerges. Okay, so, right now
18:01 it's only been transmitted in rare cases from
18:03 birds to humans, but has never gone
18:05 from human to human.
18:06 Rare cases gone from human to human maybe
18:09 150 cases most of them. Why can't they take
18:11 those rare cases and figure out what the vaccine
18:13 should be based on that.
18:14 Because we're not worried about that virus right now
18:16 as far as causing a pandemic,
18:17 you don't need to be immunized right now Don,
18:20 against the H5N1 because, because the death of some
18:24 poor woman in Vietnam. Because we don't have
18:27 that virus here and that virus is not gonna
18:30 circulate around the globe because it doesn't have
18:31 that potential. I mean that's my best way
18:34 of reading a literature I understand that people
18:37 are working on H5N1 viruses in fact.
18:41 Any new vaccinations. Yeah, they were working on,
18:45 they are looking at all the possible forms of H5N1
18:48 and they are trying to develop vaccines that
18:51 counter each one. So, in case one of those is
18:57 what begins effecting humans in a pandemic way,
19:01 they have got these vaccines developed,
19:03 at least that sounds like one of the strategies
19:05 from my readings of some of the summary materials.
19:08 Okay, so we don't have anything to really worry
19:12 about for sure on that right now,
19:15 but in a general sense, how could we, is there
19:18 anyway to protect ourselves against the new strain.
19:20 Well, let's talk about, let's say it happens,
19:22 Okay. let's say as this
19:23 show is airing, you know, just the program before
19:27 that was live, they had someone on saying,
19:29 you know, we have just had a thousand people
19:31 dying in our town for the second day in a row
19:35 from avian flu, H5N1 is here
19:38 and now people are watching this prerecorded show,
19:41 what can they do, you wanna give them
19:42 that message. The first thing is get
19:44 whatever immunization you can against Influenza.
19:47 Umm! Even though the H3N2s,
19:52 the H1N1s may not provide a large degree
19:55 of protection, they may provide some.
19:58 And every little bit helps.
20:00 Yes, and beyond that they are gonna prevent you
20:02 from co-infection because you can get
20:05 both H5N1 and an H3N2 at the same time,
20:10 theoretically. Okay.
20:11 Okay, so get the vaccination and especially if you are
20:15 in a high risk population, if you got asthma,
20:17 if you got chronic lung disease,
20:19 if you have heart disease, these would be high risk
20:21 populations over 65, all of the scenarios
20:26 you want to prioritize getting the flu vaccination.
20:28 So, get your flu shot, get your vaccination,
20:31 any medication. Well, there are medications,
20:33 there are anti-viral drugs, there is actually
20:36 four currently available in United States.
20:39 Amantadine and Rimantadine are two of the older drugs
20:44 that are available, these drugs are
20:46 very interesting, it does seem that they have
20:48 role in preventing Influenza outbreaks,
20:52 but if you use a drug let's say in a nursing home
20:54 or in some other closed community,
20:55 if you give someone Amantadine as
20:58 a treatment drug, the Influenza seems to
21:01 rapidly develop resistance to it.
21:03 and the other people taking Amantadine are
21:05 not protected as it does not help them.
21:07 Wow! So, that, that virus is so smart
21:10 so to speak that it changes and
21:13 it kind of knows its environment.
21:14 Exactly, so most people are saying for a variety
21:18 of reasons like that, that Amantadine and Rimantadine
21:20 are not viable strategies when it comes to
21:23 a pandemic of, of the H5N1, but there are
21:28 two other drugs sold under the trade names of Tamiflu
21:32 and Relenza, that are reasonable strategies.
21:36 Tamiflu is an oral drug and Relenza is an inhale drug.
21:40 Umm, and that's why, you know, many countries
21:43 are developing that and they are building places
21:47 that can make more of this just in case.
21:49 Exactly they are really trying to stock pile this,
21:52 especially the Tamiflu, its from a natural plant,
21:55 it is from a plant source and the Relenza is being
22:00 an inhaled drug, it's a little bit more
22:03 cumbersome to use and for people who have
22:06 respiratory problems it may not be the best,
22:09 best route to use because there is some,
22:12 some reports at least of people with Asthma
22:15 or other things having actually some serious
22:17 reactions to inhale one of these medicines.
22:20 So, let's say the vaccines not available to me,
22:22 the drugs are not available to me,
22:23 what should I do?
22:25 Okay, several things, first one is don't wait
22:27 until an outbreak occurs, don't wait for the pandemic,
22:31 that's when you are not gonna be able to get
22:32 the vaccine, that's when you are not
22:34 gonna be able to get the drugs,
22:35 make sure you vaccinate before the pandemic, okay.
22:37 So, if you don't have a vaccine,
22:38 you can't get one and you are saying
22:40 just keep looking until you get one.
22:43 No, what I am saying is that should have
22:44 happened before this discussion.
22:45 Okay. Okay.
22:46 Alright. Now, we are at this point,
22:48 you can't get the vaccine, you can't get the
22:49 oral drugs what you gonna do.
22:51 Right. First thing is hygiene and.
22:54 Clean, wash. Yes, cleanliness
22:58 it's watching your contacts, I mean in other words
23:03 don't go on the cross-country trip
23:06 if there is a, you know, serious Influenza outbreak
23:10 in New York City. Don't get on the plane
23:11 in New York City with all those passengers.
23:14 Cancel your plans, if you're concerned
23:16 about it and you should be concerned about it.
23:18 okay. So that's a hygienic
23:20 measure, sure washing your hands is important,
23:23 but the aerosolized route, that's in the air
23:26 is probably the most efficient way
23:27 that the Influenza virus is transmitted,
23:30 wearing a mask actually can afford protection,
23:34 it's good for the person who has Influenza
23:35 to wear it, but they can be
23:37 transmitting it for a full day before
23:40 they have any symptoms. So if you're concerned
23:44 wear a mask when you're out in public.
23:46 That's why we saw a lot of
23:47 pictures of other countries where this is.
23:49 That's right. That's good,
23:50 they're all wearing masks. In some countries
23:52 that's common practice, here in the United States
23:54 we think it wasn't macho or
23:55 something to be walking around.
23:56 Or they were a burglar or something.
23:58 Yeah, exactly whatever the case may be,
24:00 but I'll tell you something better
24:01 than all that. What's that?
24:02 It's keeping your immune system up.
24:04 And how we do that? Well, there are
24:05 several ways, I mean first of all you
24:06 think about the high risk populations, okay
24:09 One of them are people with chronic obstructive
24:11 lung disease. Cigarette smoking,
24:13 not only causes obstructive lung disease
24:17 like emphysema, but it also lowers the
24:20 resistance in your respiratory tract.
24:22 Sure. If you're concerned
24:23 about avian flu and you're a smoker,
24:25 you need to stop smoking and you don't want
24:28 to wait until the avian flu outbreak is upon us.
24:33 Right. Because it can take
24:34 literally weeks for those little silly or
24:37 those little hairs that clean out the lung system
24:41 to resume normal function or regain function.
24:46 So everything you would do, I mean all the normal
24:48 good things, good nutrition, exercise, not smoking,
24:52 not drinking, all those different things are what you
24:54 need to do to get yourself out there.
24:56 I'll tell you another huge one, it's adequate sleep.
24:58 Adequate sleep. I mean this is one where
25:00 many people cut corners, I mean you know it,
25:03 I mean in our profession sometimes we have to do it,
25:06 right. As a physician or pastor, if someone calls us
25:09 at 2 in the morning. You got to go.
25:10 Yeah, you got to go, if they have an acute need for
25:13 ministry we have got to go, but Don, many people are
25:18 cutting corners when it comes to their sleep.
25:20 You know, they are trying to save a few dollars and
25:21 not going to stay in the hotel, they are going to
25:23 make the cross-country drive. Sleep in the car.
25:25 Yes, sleep in, you know, take turns, trade off,
25:28 whatever it might be. You don't want to cut
25:31 corners especially when you're in a pandemic
25:36 territory if you will. What if you get sick and
25:39 can't get treatment? Well if you get sick and
25:41 can't get treatment, I'll tell you an interesting
25:43 story, a physician, a seasoned physician with a lot of
25:46 experience in natural remedies told me that,
25:49 that they had a friend who was giving hydrotherapy
25:53 treatments back in 1918 during the flu epidemic and
25:57 any person they saw who came to them for treatment,
26:00 who could walk in even with assistance they didn't
26:03 lose. His alternating heat, hot, and cold treatments to
26:07 the chest, seemed to be life saving, I can't tell you any
26:10 study that I have seen that shows that, but I have heard
26:13 a lot and I've seen a lot, even in my own experience
26:16 that these things do make a difference.
26:18 You know, the Bible says that the end time people's
26:21 hearts will be failing in for fear sometimes over,
26:24 you know, what's having to them or what they think
26:27 might happen. People should be concerned, but what can
26:31 you say about fear. Well actually fear is
26:34 immunosuppressive. Okay, if you get scared and anxious
26:38 and worried, that tends to suppress the immune system,
26:42 so you definitely don't wanna be deathly afraid of getting
26:47 the flu virus or you are more likely actually to get it.
26:51 So we have nothing to fear, but fear itself.
26:54 That is one of the things, we do need to be afraid of.
26:57 Okay and some of this information you know
27:00 we summarized a lot of things, some of it a
27:02 little bit technical about how the virus can morph,
27:05 why its dangerous, why its different than a bacteria,
27:08 all those different things, that's available on
27:11 compasshealth.net. We've got some general
27:14 information there as well as some links to sources
27:16 that can really provide more information.
27:18 Well, you know, I'm glad that you are a physician in
27:20 internal medicine and preventive medicine,
27:22 that was great, but I think this is even better, makes it
27:24 more accessible to other groups and thank you for
27:26 the ministry and both here today
27:28 and also on the website. You are welcome Don.
27:30 And thank you for being with us.
27:32 And thank you all so for being with us,
27:34 very practical lesson today, take all the precautions
27:38 you can, if you can get vaccinated, if you can get
27:40 those different things, every little bit will help in a
27:44 flu outbreak if it comes in your area and
27:47 and then just do the basics. We have learned that from
27:48 Dr. DeRose today, if you want to review those
27:50 go to compasshealth.net, I'm glad you've
27:53 joined us today for Health for a Lifetime
27:55 and we trust this will be good information for you.


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