Participants: Don Mckintosh (Host), David DeRose
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000179
00:01 The following program presents principles designed
00:03 to promote good health and is not intended to take the 00:06 place of personalized professional care. 00:09 The opinions and ideas 00:10 expressed are those of the speaker. 00:12 Viewers are encouraged to draw their own 00:14 conclusions about the information presented. 00:50 Hello and welcome to Health For A Lifetime. 00:52 I am your host Don Mackintosh. 00:53 We are glad that you joined us today. 00:54 We are going to be talking about the flu. 00:57 Many different types types of flu, 00:58 sometimes it strikes fear in the heart of some, 01:02 but many times throughout the years 01:04 we hear about it especially in the winter months, 01:07 may be getting a flu shot, this or that. 01:09 We are gonna be talking with Dr. David DeRose 01:11 about this exciting and important subject 01:14 and Dr. DeRose you have been 01:16 a physician now for about 20 years. 01:17 That's correct. Specialist in 01:19 Internal Medicine, you've probably seen 01:21 a lot of flu cases over the years. 01:23 You see all kinds of things in Internal Medicine and 01:25 then in Preventive Medicine, 01:27 which is my other boards. I've actually worked 01:29 with immunization strategies for large hospitals system 01:33 at one point in my career, so it was even more 01:35 involved with Influenza in that capacity 01:38 then being in a general practice setting. 01:41 Now you have put all this experience together and 01:45 you have a rather flexible ministry now, 01:48 you are able to do lots of different things, 01:50 you work with different corporations, churches, 01:52 individuals, groups, and you provide a lot of 01:55 education in a lot of different levels, 01:57 professional meetings and also for the loyalty and 02:00 its called compass health, 02:02 and it is compasshealth.net 02:04 That's it, if you want to find 02:06 more information that's all you 02:08 need to remember compasshealth.net 02:09 A lot of free stuff, 02:10 in fact all free stuff on that website. 02:12 Oh! There is a few things you can purchase, 02:13 but most of it is free 02:15 and informational educational material. 02:18 So, we're talking about Avian flu or 02:22 or flu in general, so called Influenza, 02:25 what is it? And how big a problem is it? 02:27 Well it's, I mean it's a good question, 02:28 because I can remember grow, growing up 02:31 that everything was the flu not, not everything 02:34 I'm not speaking of my household in particular, 02:36 but you've heard this, I mean someone said 02:38 well Johnny couldn't come in, 02:39 he's got the stomach flu. 02:40 He is got the stomach flu, he is got the ear flu, 02:41 he is got the nose flu, all kinds of flu. 02:44 Yeah, I mean most people are very nonspecific 02:47 when they use the term flu, it's just like a cold or 02:49 you know colds and flu we often say 02:51 in the same breath. Flu. 02:53 But Influenza is a very serious, 02:57 really viral illness and it is serious for a 03:00 number of reasons, one if you get Influenza 03:03 you're gonna tend to get pretty sick, 03:06 at least if you get the full blown Influenza. 03:08 Throw up, dehydration. Not necessarily, 03:11 now you can, you can get the GI stuff, 03:14 but definitely high fever is classic, cough, 03:18 these are two real hallmarks and then just feeling 03:21 really bad, really wiped out. 03:23 These are probably the three most 03:24 consistent things that we see with Influenza, 03:26 sore throat, the intestinal things. 03:28 Yeah they can be part of the picture. 03:29 I mentioned at the beginning that 03:31 many times we hear about this more 03:32 in the winter months. Why is that? 03:34 Well actually there is a peak, 03:36 there is a spike in Influenza cases 03:39 at least here in the Northern Hemisphere 03:41 during the winter months. 03:43 It appears as a number of reasons for that, 03:45 one actually has to do with the virus itself, 03:48 it does seem to thrive more at colder temperatures, 03:51 but also it has to do with the close proximity 03:55 that we put ourselves into during the winter months. 03:57 We are not outside as much, there is more 03:59 congregating indoors at least that's the take 04:03 from the infectious disease community 04:04 that there is more than one thing happening, 04:06 that then provides an opportunity 04:09 for these Influenza viruses viruses to circulate 04:12 and they are very infectious germs, 04:15 a good example of this is an airplane flight, 04:17 it's actually been studied, if you are on a flight 04:20 for 4-1/2 hours, a long flight okay. 04:23 Yeah. Maybe flying cross country 04:25 whatever and someone on the plane has Influenza 04:29 and they are coughing, 75 percent of the people 04:32 on that plane are going to get Influenza. 04:35 That's what some of the data indicates. 04:37 Is that right? Yeah, 04:38 and this is incredible. 04:39 So, where should you sit on the plane? 04:43 I think there are some other strategies that 04:44 maybe more effective and to get to those 04:47 let me mention an interesting thing, 04:49 a lot of people say I don't need to be 04:51 concerned about Influenza because I never get sick. 04:55 Okay. But there is a problem for 04:57 us as health professionals, clergy 05:01 people that are working with individuals 05:03 are caring for elderly parents. 05:06 why? There is a significant 05:08 percentage of people who when are exposed 05:10 to the Influenza virus, they develop what is called 05:13 an inapparent infection. Inapparent infection, 05:17 they got it, but they don't know it. 05:18 That's right. They actually have the virus, 05:21 they are transmitting the virus when they breath, 05:24 they can transmit it through their hands 05:26 if they rub their nose, whatever the case maybe. 05:29 Shake hands. Shake hands and 05:32 people around them can get the virus from them. 05:34 This is why when I was in hospital 05:36 infectious disease control, we encouraged all our 05:40 employees to get the the flu vaccine 05:41 not for themselves, but especially if 05:44 they are working in the Intensive Care Unit 05:46 they need that vaccine. To protect their patients. 05:48 To protect their patient. So, this is very dangerous, 05:51 how dangerous is it, I mean. To put it in perspective 05:55 you need to recognize that Influenza does not always 05:59 raise its head in the same way, 06:01 Influenza is a fascinating virus and I said 06:04 fascinating because you know, most of us think 06:07 in terms of a virus being one thing we can, 06:10 you know, take a vaccine, develop a vaccine and 06:13 immunize for it. Your kids no doubt 06:16 have probably had some vaccinations done. 06:19 Yes. And so have mine, 06:22 and those vaccines, let's say the vaccine 06:24 was for measles. Measles, mumps, rubella, 06:27 all these. Okay, measles, mumps and 06:28 rubella, all three of those, three different viruses 06:31 they get one shot and all they need is one booster. 06:34 We used to just give one shot. 06:36 So how do we protect them from three viruses. 06:40 I don't know. If one or two shots. 06:42 Never thought about this, how did you do it? 06:43 Well this way and it's not the whole 06:45 question and with Influenza you're supposed 06:48 to get a shot every year. Yeah, how is it? 06:51 What it is, is Influenza is continually changing. 06:55 Morphing. Morphing, good way to 06:57 describe it, okay. Okay. 06:59 Its got these surface projections on the virus, 07:04 there are actually technical names for them, 07:06 but for short we call them 07:08 the H and the N projections. Okay. 07:10 Okay and this has to do with the 07:14 viral characteristics, the H factor has to do 07:18 with its infectivity, its ability to infect 07:21 other cells. Okay. 07:23 And then the N has to do with it's ability to 07:26 release itself from the cells after it takes over 07:30 their genetic capabilities and starts using 07:35 the cells own genetics to make new viruses. 07:39 So, that's how it can all change. 07:40 Yeah, these H and N compounds 07:42 change overtimes especially the H has been 07:44 the most studied, it stands for 07:46 hemagglutinin. This H factor changes overtime, 07:52 it does what we call drifts overtime. 07:55 Drifts into something different. 07:57 Into something different, 07:58 just very gradually, but now why I'm answering 08:03 the question this way Don, if there is just 08:04 a little drift and change from one year 08:08 to the next, which is typical, 08:10 if you are exposed to Influenza next year. 08:14 Okay. The immunity you had 08:15 this year will be partially protective. 08:18 So, it doesn't totally go away, but it's not 08:21 gonna totally do this up. Yes, you're not likely to 08:23 get a severe Influenza case being a healthy young man 08:26 like you are. Thank you. 08:28 Okay. Okay, Good. 08:29 Now If you were debilitated in all, 08:32 that's a different story and that's why we urge 08:34 people that have chronic medical conditions 08:38 or if they are have immune compromise or if they are 08:40 in crowded situations with lots of 08:42 susceptible people like in a nursing home 08:45 environment, that these people have a priority 08:48 when we're immunizing for Influenza each year. 08:51 I've just told you about the drift though, 08:53 there is something else that happens with Influenza 08:55 viruses, bigger changes called Shifts that occur. 08:59 Okay. And some of the most 09:00 traumatic Shifts in Influenza would be an 09:03 actual change in the whole type of the H and N factors 09:10 So if it was H1N1 and it moved to H3H4 09:14 that's totally different. That would be 09:15 totally different. That's not a Shift that's 09:17 a leap or whatever you call. You may call it a Shift 09:21 instead of a drift or you have a dramatic change 09:25 and so the. The body is not ready 09:26 at all. The body is not ready 09:27 for it and what we've been seeing historically over 09:31 the last several decades we have been seeing H1N1 09:34 that's one variety and the other variety we have been 09:36 seeing is H3N2, we have been seeing variations on that. 09:40 What people are getting very concerned about is the 09:44 emergency of another pattern, which is H5N1. 09:49 H5N1, so that's totally different. 09:51 Totally different, still Influenza virus, 09:53 but these different surface projections. 09:55 And so there is no real way to fight against it. 09:59 We don't have the immunity developed against H5N1. 10:02 So is this why, you know, during 1918 around 10:05 that time they had the so called swine's flu 10:08 that was a totally different H1N, H and N projection. 10:13 Yeah, this is very interesting. 10:15 And I don't know where they get 10:16 these specimens from. I haven't looked 10:18 into this, but supposedly and 10:21 you know its coming from reputable scientific sources. 10:23 They are actually specimens that date back to 1918, 10:27 this great flu epidemic killed 21 million people, 10:30 that was what we call a pandemic. 10:32 That was huge. It was huge, 10:33 sweeping the whole world something like 10:34 500,000 deaths here in the Unites States. 10:37 All traced to the pigs. Well, the interesting 10:40 thing about this Don is when they've looked at these, 10:42 the first day, when they looked at these 10:44 specimens they were saying it were H1N1, 10:47 now some of the latest stuff that's come out 10:48 its saying that this was an avian flu. 10:52 Avian, it wasn't the pigs. It wasn't the pigs, 10:54 it was an H5N1, but the pigs maybe 10:56 part of the story. Well, okay 10:57 how did the pigs factor end? You know, its very 10:59 interesting, you and I have studied some of the 11:02 Biblical counsel about health. 11:04 Don't eat pigs. Don't eat pigs. 11:06 And don't eat most birds. But, you know, 11:07 I think about it, if the whole world was 11:11 following God's counsel about pig not being 11:16 a consumption item. How many pigs you think 11:19 there be in the world? Probably a lot more 11:22 than they are now. A lot of more than 11:23 they are now, because people wouldn't be 11:25 eating them or what. 11:27 Right, 'cause people wouldn't be eating them. 11:29 Well, I mean sure there will be more pigs 11:31 in the wild, but most of the pigs 11:33 that we have got today are domestic pigs. 11:35 Okay, we just say, they have many farms. 11:38 Exactly. Alright, it's interesting 11:40 right, so there be a lot less pigs 11:42 and they'd be in the wild roaming around. 11:44 So let's, let me come to the scenario with you 11:46 because we are talking here about H5N1, 11:49 this is the so called avian flu. 11:50 Right. That's been getting a lot of 11:52 attention since 1997 or so when we started seeing 11:56 these outbreaks in Asia, people who are in close 11:59 proximity to birds getting the so called avian flu, 12:03 H5N1. This particular virus up 12:08 through like 2005, no human transmission 12:14 of significance, only if they are in close 12:17 proximity to birds, a few household contacts 12:21 getting it from another human, but very, very 12:24 difficult to transmit human to human. 12:26 No potential in the avian flu virus 12:30 to cause a pandemic. Okay, then what happened? 12:33 Coming back to 1918. With the pigs. 12:36 With the pigs and with the pigs today. 12:39 One of the theories with how avian flu can morph 12:43 into a virus that can then effect humans is there 12:47 some type of third host. A pig. 12:51 Like a pig that is susceptible to both human 12:54 Influenza virus and avian Influenza virus. 12:58 That mixes them together. That's right, 12:59 it get's a co-infection or somehow transmission, 13:02 a viral material and worldwide you come out 13:05 with a virus its susceptible for 13:08 human to human transmission. And then someone eats 13:10 the pig and they get it. 13:12 Well, presumably its transmitted aerosol 13:14 route, not only by eating the pig. 13:17 Interesting, so that brings those two together. 13:19 So, is there, you know, there is more and more 13:23 interest in this bird flu and sometimes people would 13:26 call that a scare tactic, some people would say 13:29 hey, its but you are saying there is really something 13:32 to be concerned about. 13:33 Oh no this is, this is a legitimate concern 13:35 and we need to talk about some practical 13:37 things on these matters. Well, we're talking 13:40 with Dr. David DeRose, we're are talking about flu, 13:42 different types of flu and now he's described to us 13:46 some of the mechanics of how flu is both produced, 13:51 the different viruses and now we are gonna talk 13:54 in the second segment about how we can avoid it 13:56 and I think you would be very interested in that 13:58 as well join us. 14:00 Have you found yourself wishing that you could 14:03 shed a few pounds, have you been on a diet 14:06 for most of your life, but not found anything 14:08 that will really keep the weight off, 14:11 if you have answered yes to any of these questions 14:13 then we have a solution for you that works 14:16 Dr. Hans Diehl and Dr. Aileen Ludington 14:19 have written a marvelous book that's called 14:21 Reversing Obesity Naturally and we would like to send 14:24 it to you free of charge, 14:26 here's a medically sound approach, successfully 14:28 used by thousands, who were able to eat more 14:31 and lose weight permanently without feeling guilty 14:34 or hungry through my experiments. 14:37 Dr. Diehl and Dr. Ludington 14:38 have been featured on 3ABN and in this booklet 14:41 they present a sensible approach to eating 14:43 nutrition and lifestyle changes that can 14:46 prevent heart disease, diabetes and even cancer. 14:49 Call her right today for your for your free copy 14:51 of our Reversing Obesity Natural 14:53 and you could be on your way to a healthier, 14:55 happier you, it's absolutely 14:57 free of charge, so call our line today. 15:03 Welcome back we are talking with Dr. David DeRose, 15:07 he is a physician in Southern Oklahoma 15:08 and you have a ministry called Compass Health. 15:11 A lot of the different things that you produce, 15:14 you are always doing ongoing research, 15:15 you are always coming up with new presentations 15:18 based on the needs of people around the world. 15:20 And this is one of the needs, people are really 15:23 concerned about flu, but more specifically 15:26 bird flu because it's now been transmitted 15:29 I guess in some places in Asia and 15:31 maybe other places I don't know at the airing 15:33 of this program, what will be true, 15:34 but it's been gone from birds somehow to humans 15:38 and this is causing great concern. 15:39 Yes, but remember what's happened 15:42 you know up through, you know, 1997, '98, '99, 15:46 up to 2005 is this transmission 15:48 was just going to people who were handling the 15:51 birds predominantly, very rare exceptions, 15:54 but very high fatality rates. 15:56 We're talking like 50 percent of the people 15:58 who are getting this H5N1 through this intimate 16:01 contact with birds that are actually succumbing 16:04 to the illness, so very serious 16:06 and that's why earlier in the program 16:07 we talked about how bad Influenza was. 16:11 Yes, you may have had Influenza last year. 16:14 But it morphs, it changes. That's right. 16:16 If you're expose to the H5N1 if that somehow 16:20 morphs into something that just goes between 16:23 birds pretty much right now, into something that 16:26 readily can go from human to human. 16:28 We are talking about having a 16:30 worldwide pandemic. This is gonna sweep 16:32 through populations because we don't have immunity 16:36 to this form of virus 16:37 Umm! So, it's totally different than like say 16:40 you get your measles, mumps, rubella, 16:42 which once you see it, your body sees it. 16:44 It is always ready to attack but this is always 16:47 changing that's right. That's right. That's right. 16:48 Morphing and that's why there is a concern. 16:50 So, vaccinations, flu shots and people be getting 16:53 but they, will they help or they are not 16:55 even really related? 16:57 Well, right now, we don't have a flu shot 16:59 for the H5N1 variety. Which is the avian flu? 17:02 This is the, the avian flu. And part of the reason 17:05 for that at least from my looking end, and again 17:07 I am not an infectious disease expert, 17:09 I am not a virologist. So, I am looking at this 17:12 through the eyes of an internal medicine and 17:14 preventive medicine physician, looking, 17:16 you know, at the literature what appears to really be 17:19 be the problem is we don't have a target yet 17:21 because we don't have a virus that has mutated 17:26 if you will or transformed or morphed or whatever 17:29 into a humanly transmissible form. 17:32 There is not really a practical reason to make 17:34 an vaccine right now, to try to counter 17:38 the avian virus, it is, because this is not 17:40 posing a human threat. That's not the virus 17:43 that we need to vaccine to, you see my point. 17:45 So, what we, what we need it to? 17:47 Well, the problem is we're only going to know 17:51 what the perfect vaccine is for the virus that's being 17:56 transmitted from human to human 17:58 once that virus emerges. Okay, so, right now 18:01 it's only been transmitted in rare cases from 18:03 birds to humans, but has never gone 18:05 from human to human. 18:06 Rare cases gone from human to human maybe 18:09 150 cases most of them. Why can't they take 18:11 those rare cases and figure out what the vaccine 18:13 should be based on that. 18:14 Because we're not worried about that virus right now 18:16 as far as causing a pandemic, 18:17 you don't need to be immunized right now Don, 18:20 against the H5N1 because, because the death of some 18:24 poor woman in Vietnam. Because we don't have 18:27 that virus here and that virus is not gonna 18:30 circulate around the globe because it doesn't have 18:31 that potential. I mean that's my best way 18:34 of reading a literature I understand that people 18:37 are working on H5N1 viruses in fact. 18:41 Any new vaccinations. Yeah, they were working on, 18:45 they are looking at all the possible forms of H5N1 18:48 and they are trying to develop vaccines that 18:51 counter each one. So, in case one of those is 18:57 what begins effecting humans in a pandemic way, 19:01 they have got these vaccines developed, 19:03 at least that sounds like one of the strategies 19:05 from my readings of some of the summary materials. 19:08 Okay, so we don't have anything to really worry 19:12 about for sure on that right now, 19:15 but in a general sense, how could we, is there 19:18 anyway to protect ourselves against the new strain. 19:20 Well, let's talk about, let's say it happens, 19:22 Okay. let's say as this 19:23 show is airing, you know, just the program before 19:27 that was live, they had someone on saying, 19:29 you know, we have just had a thousand people 19:31 dying in our town for the second day in a row 19:35 from avian flu, H5N1 is here 19:38 and now people are watching this prerecorded show, 19:41 what can they do, you wanna give them 19:42 that message. The first thing is get 19:44 whatever immunization you can against Influenza. 19:47 Umm! Even though the H3N2s, 19:52 the H1N1s may not provide a large degree 19:55 of protection, they may provide some. 19:58 And every little bit helps. 20:00 Yes, and beyond that they are gonna prevent you 20:02 from co-infection because you can get 20:05 both H5N1 and an H3N2 at the same time, 20:10 theoretically. Okay. 20:11 Okay, so get the vaccination and especially if you are 20:15 in a high risk population, if you got asthma, 20:17 if you got chronic lung disease, 20:19 if you have heart disease, these would be high risk 20:21 populations over 65, all of the scenarios 20:26 you want to prioritize getting the flu vaccination. 20:28 So, get your flu shot, get your vaccination, 20:31 any medication. Well, there are medications, 20:33 there are anti-viral drugs, there is actually 20:36 four currently available in United States. 20:39 Amantadine and Rimantadine are two of the older drugs 20:44 that are available, these drugs are 20:46 very interesting, it does seem that they have 20:48 role in preventing Influenza outbreaks, 20:52 but if you use a drug let's say in a nursing home 20:54 or in some other closed community, 20:55 if you give someone Amantadine as 20:58 a treatment drug, the Influenza seems to 21:01 rapidly develop resistance to it. 21:03 and the other people taking Amantadine are 21:05 not protected as it does not help them. 21:07 Wow! So, that, that virus is so smart 21:10 so to speak that it changes and 21:13 it kind of knows its environment. 21:14 Exactly, so most people are saying for a variety 21:18 of reasons like that, that Amantadine and Rimantadine 21:20 are not viable strategies when it comes to 21:23 a pandemic of, of the H5N1, but there are 21:28 two other drugs sold under the trade names of Tamiflu 21:32 and Relenza, that are reasonable strategies. 21:36 Tamiflu is an oral drug and Relenza is an inhale drug. 21:40 Umm, and that's why, you know, many countries 21:43 are developing that and they are building places 21:47 that can make more of this just in case. 21:49 Exactly they are really trying to stock pile this, 21:52 especially the Tamiflu, its from a natural plant, 21:55 it is from a plant source and the Relenza is being 22:00 an inhaled drug, it's a little bit more 22:03 cumbersome to use and for people who have 22:06 respiratory problems it may not be the best, 22:09 best route to use because there is some, 22:12 some reports at least of people with Asthma 22:15 or other things having actually some serious 22:17 reactions to inhale one of these medicines. 22:20 So, let's say the vaccines not available to me, 22:22 the drugs are not available to me, 22:23 what should I do? 22:25 Okay, several things, first one is don't wait 22:27 until an outbreak occurs, don't wait for the pandemic, 22:31 that's when you are not gonna be able to get 22:32 the vaccine, that's when you are not 22:34 gonna be able to get the drugs, 22:35 make sure you vaccinate before the pandemic, okay. 22:37 So, if you don't have a vaccine, 22:38 you can't get one and you are saying 22:40 just keep looking until you get one. 22:43 No, what I am saying is that should have 22:44 happened before this discussion. 22:45 Okay. Okay. 22:46 Alright. Now, we are at this point, 22:48 you can't get the vaccine, you can't get the 22:49 oral drugs what you gonna do. 22:51 Right. First thing is hygiene and. 22:54 Clean, wash. Yes, cleanliness 22:58 it's watching your contacts, I mean in other words 23:03 don't go on the cross-country trip 23:06 if there is a, you know, serious Influenza outbreak 23:10 in New York City. Don't get on the plane 23:11 in New York City with all those passengers. 23:14 Cancel your plans, if you're concerned 23:16 about it and you should be concerned about it. 23:18 okay. So that's a hygienic 23:20 measure, sure washing your hands is important, 23:23 but the aerosolized route, that's in the air 23:26 is probably the most efficient way 23:27 that the Influenza virus is transmitted, 23:30 wearing a mask actually can afford protection, 23:34 it's good for the person who has Influenza 23:35 to wear it, but they can be 23:37 transmitting it for a full day before 23:40 they have any symptoms. So if you're concerned 23:44 wear a mask when you're out in public. 23:46 That's why we saw a lot of 23:47 pictures of other countries where this is. 23:49 That's right. That's good, 23:50 they're all wearing masks. In some countries 23:52 that's common practice, here in the United States 23:54 we think it wasn't macho or 23:55 something to be walking around. 23:56 Or they were a burglar or something. 23:58 Yeah, exactly whatever the case may be, 24:00 but I'll tell you something better 24:01 than all that. What's that? 24:02 It's keeping your immune system up. 24:04 And how we do that? Well, there are 24:05 several ways, I mean first of all you 24:06 think about the high risk populations, okay 24:09 One of them are people with chronic obstructive 24:11 lung disease. Cigarette smoking, 24:13 not only causes obstructive lung disease 24:17 like emphysema, but it also lowers the 24:20 resistance in your respiratory tract. 24:22 Sure. If you're concerned 24:23 about avian flu and you're a smoker, 24:25 you need to stop smoking and you don't want 24:28 to wait until the avian flu outbreak is upon us. 24:33 Right. Because it can take 24:34 literally weeks for those little silly or 24:37 those little hairs that clean out the lung system 24:41 to resume normal function or regain function. 24:46 So everything you would do, I mean all the normal 24:48 good things, good nutrition, exercise, not smoking, 24:52 not drinking, all those different things are what you 24:54 need to do to get yourself out there. 24:56 I'll tell you another huge one, it's adequate sleep. 24:58 Adequate sleep. I mean this is one where 25:00 many people cut corners, I mean you know it, 25:03 I mean in our profession sometimes we have to do it, 25:06 right. As a physician or pastor, if someone calls us 25:09 at 2 in the morning. You got to go. 25:10 Yeah, you got to go, if they have an acute need for 25:13 ministry we have got to go, but Don, many people are 25:18 cutting corners when it comes to their sleep. 25:20 You know, they are trying to save a few dollars and 25:21 not going to stay in the hotel, they are going to 25:23 make the cross-country drive. Sleep in the car. 25:25 Yes, sleep in, you know, take turns, trade off, 25:28 whatever it might be. You don't want to cut 25:31 corners especially when you're in a pandemic 25:36 territory if you will. What if you get sick and 25:39 can't get treatment? Well if you get sick and 25:41 can't get treatment, I'll tell you an interesting 25:43 story, a physician, a seasoned physician with a lot of 25:46 experience in natural remedies told me that, 25:49 that they had a friend who was giving hydrotherapy 25:53 treatments back in 1918 during the flu epidemic and 25:57 any person they saw who came to them for treatment, 26:00 who could walk in even with assistance they didn't 26:03 lose. His alternating heat, hot, and cold treatments to 26:07 the chest, seemed to be life saving, I can't tell you any 26:10 study that I have seen that shows that, but I have heard 26:13 a lot and I've seen a lot, even in my own experience 26:16 that these things do make a difference. 26:18 You know, the Bible says that the end time people's 26:21 hearts will be failing in for fear sometimes over, 26:24 you know, what's having to them or what they think 26:27 might happen. People should be concerned, but what can 26:31 you say about fear. Well actually fear is 26:34 immunosuppressive. Okay, if you get scared and anxious 26:38 and worried, that tends to suppress the immune system, 26:42 so you definitely don't wanna be deathly afraid of getting 26:47 the flu virus or you are more likely actually to get it. 26:51 So we have nothing to fear, but fear itself. 26:54 That is one of the things, we do need to be afraid of. 26:57 Okay and some of this information you know 27:00 we summarized a lot of things, some of it a 27:02 little bit technical about how the virus can morph, 27:05 why its dangerous, why its different than a bacteria, 27:08 all those different things, that's available on 27:11 compasshealth.net. We've got some general 27:14 information there as well as some links to sources 27:16 that can really provide more information. 27:18 Well, you know, I'm glad that you are a physician in 27:20 internal medicine and preventive medicine, 27:22 that was great, but I think this is even better, makes it 27:24 more accessible to other groups and thank you for 27:26 the ministry and both here today 27:28 and also on the website. You are welcome Don. 27:30 And thank you for being with us. 27:32 And thank you all so for being with us, 27:34 very practical lesson today, take all the precautions 27:38 you can, if you can get vaccinated, if you can get 27:40 those different things, every little bit will help in a 27:44 flu outbreak if it comes in your area and 27:47 and then just do the basics. We have learned that from 27:48 Dr. DeRose today, if you want to review those 27:50 go to compasshealth.net, I'm glad you've 27:53 joined us today for Health for a Lifetime 27:55 and we trust this will be good information for you. |
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