Participants: Don Mackintosh (Host), John Clark
Series Code: HFAL
Program Code: HFAL000196
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00:01 The following program presents principles
00:03 designed to promote good health and is not intended to 00:06 take the place of personalized professional care. 00:08 The opinions and ideas expressed are 00:11 those of the speaker. Viewers are encouraged to draw 00:14 their own conclusions about the information presented. 00:50 Welcome to Health For A Lifetime. 00:51 I'm your host Don Mackintosh. We are glad 00:53 you are with us today, we are gonna be talking 00:54 today about Arthritis. Dr. John Clark 00:58 an orthopedic surgeon from Maine is with us to talk 01:01 about this. You've been practicing about five years 01:03 in orthopedics, do you see a lot of people 01:05 with Arthritis. Oh I do, a lot of people come to me 01:08 with that very diagnosis, and so they come, 01:12 they are hunched over there, like you know my uncle 01:15 was saying once and its not really funny, 01:16 but it's gonna graphic he says who is that person 01:19 sneaking in air, you know, they are kind a hunched 01:21 over they are and almost does look like 01:24 they are sneaking in if you will, but its really 01:26 because of the Arthritis. That's right it's quite 01:29 crippling and causes deformity, people will get 01:33 bowlegged or not need as they get older and the CDC 01:38 has designated Arthritis as one of the leading 01:41 causes of disability in America. 01:44 So, centers for disease control CDC, that's right, 01:47 says this is a leading cause for disability and that, 01:50 what else the statistics about it, you know, 01:54 give me the numbers. About 20 percent of Americans 01:57 have been diagnosed with arthritis, 02:00 but there is another 10% of Americans that have it, 02:04 but have never been to doctor to get that 02:06 particular diagnosis. Is this, you know, 02:10 this is watched around the world, is this is just 02:11 an American phenomena or is Arthritis something 02:15 it affects other cultures as well? 02:17 Arthritis has become so prevalent that they have 02:20 designated the decade from 2000 to 2010 as the bone 02:24 and joint decade to raise awareness about arthritis 02:28 around the world, because it is such a world wide 02:31 problem. Now, I can't help but think that 02:34 you are probably gonna share with us, 02:36 that there is some way to prevent arthritis 02:38 from developing to begin with. 02:41 That's right if we couldn't prevent it I guess 02:43 that wouldn't be a whole lot of reason to talk 02:45 about it. What there, yeah we just say hey we give up, 02:48 right. Well, there is a couple of things 02:51 about joints that are important to think about 02:54 when you think about preventing arthritis. 02:57 Okay, number one is circulation 02:59 and number two is illumination. 03:02 The circulation is getting the blood to the joint 03:06 and the blood away from the joint 03:08 and illumination has to deal with removing 03:10 the metabolic products from the joint 03:13 as they build up so they don't stack up 03:16 and cause trouble. So, circulation, circulation, 03:19 circulation, oh that's right, that's exactly right. 03:22 Anything else. Well as you think about circulation 03:26 there are several factors that effects circulation 03:29 and number one is how much water you drink, 03:33 if your blood gets too thick 03:35 you won't be able to circulate it 03:37 and so water is very important. 03:39 Now the water not only is circulation in the blood, 03:42 but water has to circulate to the joint, 03:46 apart from the blood it has to soak-in and soak-out 03:50 that's because cartilage has no blood supply. 03:54 May we can put up our first graphic here, 03:57 where we talk about that the blood supply 04:00 to the joint is dependent upon 04:03 blood flowing by the joint. Is this a knee? 04:06 This is the knee, the green part of the graphic 04:09 are the bones, the pink along the side 04:13 there is a vessel that I have drawn very large 04:16 and at the top you see a blood cell. 04:18 You see the blood cells come flowing by the joint, 04:21 nutrient has to soak across the blood vessel, 04:25 across the joint capsule, across into the joint space 04:30 some people talk about having water on the knee, 04:33 well everybody has a little bit water on the knee, 04:35 the water on the knee then has to soak 04:37 into the cartilage and that is one of the few ways 04:40 that cartilage can get nourished 04:43 and then the waste products have to soak back out, 04:46 we call it diffusion out of the cartilage back across 04:51 the joint capsule and then back into the bloodstream, 04:56 where they are taken out through the kidneys. 04:58 I always thought that a vessel was 05:00 kind of a little bit more firm than 05:03 that and I don't think things leaking through 05:04 and leaking backend, but that actually happens. 05:07 That is the way you get nutrition to all 05:09 your tissues is that the blood cells flows down 05:13 the blood vessel and its squeezes off nutrients 05:17 as it goes through a capillary, 05:19 those nutrients cross across 05:21 the blood vessel wall and then into the tissues. 05:25 So, for arthritic people they are not having 05:28 this type of soaking, they are not getting what 05:32 they need in and they are not getting it out, 05:34 that's right, okay. Nutrition is not getting in 05:37 and waste products are piling up inside the joint. 05:40 Okay, so we need water and then what else we need. 05:43 The next thing we need is exercise, 05:46 believe it or not exercise is important for the joints, 05:50 if you don't use them you tend to loose them 05:53 and then nutrition is very important. 05:56 Okay, so water, exercise, nutrition, 05:59 and the solution to this pollution is dilution, 06:02 you are saying, well there you go, 06:03 that's a good way of putting it. 06:04 Okay back to water anything else you want to tell us 06:07 about why water is important. 06:09 Yes, the cartilage is kind of a spongy material. 06:13 Its actually made up of 65 to 80 percent water, 06:18 that water not only carries nutrients into it 06:21 and nutrients or waste products out of it, 06:24 but that water acts kind a like a shock absorber, 06:27 it also makes that cartilage very slick, 06:30 its kind a like the linoleum in your house. 06:32 If you get it wet it gets slick, 06:34 we like the cartilage to be wet and slick. 06:37 So my ears, is that cartilage right? 06:40 That is cartilage, but that is not the quite the same 06:43 as what's in your joint, it's similar. 06:45 The cartilage in your joint has an open space 06:50 with synovial fluid flowing against it. 06:53 The cartilage in your ear is very similar in make up, 06:56 but it has skin around it. Okay, exercise. 07:01 Our joints you know usually you would think 07:03 well my joints are hurting me in different things 07:06 maybe I just need to stay off for a while, 07:08 but you are saying we keep moving anyway. 07:11 Yes, if you don't use your joints you tend to loose 07:14 them and why is that? The cartilage since it has 07:18 no blood supply depends on cyclic loading to pump it, 07:22 it helps pump nutrients in and waste products out 07:27 if you don't pump it, it will accumulate waste products 07:30 becomes acidotic and the acid like the gas 07:33 and other acids tend to make the cartilage cells 07:36 very unhappy and maybe even die. 07:39 It helps degenerate the cartilage matrix, 07:41 it makes the sponge degenerate pretty soon, 07:44 you start loosing joint space if you walk you 07:48 pump the joint, if you walk you keep more 07:51 oxygen coming in your system 07:53 to get to the cartilage and then cartilage is much, 07:56 much happier. Okay, 07:57 so walking can get kind a squeezed off 07:59 in squeezed off out like that, that's right. 08:02 You know, we have talked about exercise, nutrition, 08:06 and all these different things that maybe 08:08 could prevent, but I have heard that 08:11 arthritis is sometimes autoimmune, 08:13 there is an immune element to that is that true? 08:16 That's exactly right, there is autoimmune arthritis. 08:20 And you are not talking about those in this 08:22 or are you? We are talking mostly 08:26 about osteoarthritis, but some of the principles 08:29 that we cover in nutrition will also affect 08:32 the arthritis called autoimmune 08:34 or rheumatoid arthritis. 08:36 Okay, so even if you have rheumatoid arthritis 08:38 you should be out there walking 08:40 and doing all those things, don't just give up. 08:42 That's right. Okay, I have heard you know 08:45 what HFAL saying you are what you eat, 08:47 you have talked here about water, 08:49 you have talked about exercise, 08:50 but what about nutrition in arthritis. 08:54 Nutrition is very important for your joints, 08:57 I would like to talk about foods in five different 09:00 categories as the way they affect your joints. 09:02 Okay, I would like to talk about foods 09:04 that are refined. Okay, refined foods, 09:07 what will they do? Refined foods, an refined foods 09:12 would be like sugars, oils, alcohols 09:14 these kind of things, things you don't necessary 09:17 find out nature that they have been processed. 09:19 The effect of refined foods is that they make all 09:24 the blood cells stick together 09:26 and when they all stick together they don't 09:28 drop off nutrients to the tissues like they should, 09:32 what happens is in normal situation 09:35 you have a capillary that is about 09:37 half a diameter of a blood cell. 09:41 When the blood cell reaches that capillary 09:43 it actually folds over and then 09:45 it goes down the capillary and it squeezes off 09:49 its nutrients to the surrounding tissue. Well, 09:52 if you eat refined foods it tends to stick all those 09:56 blood cells together kind a like the Michelin Man, 09:59 you know this guy with all the tire stuck together, 10:01 okay, that's what your blood cells do and 10:03 when they all stick together they come to the capillary 10:06 and they can't make it through and so they 10:09 don't drop off nutrients, they don't pick up 10:11 waste products, and the joint is starved 10:14 for nutrition and it's basically based in waste 10:18 products. So, you know these big sediment rolls 10:22 and all that, that's probably gonna not help 10:24 your joints. I told my staff one time all about 10:28 this gave them my lecture on this topic and whenever 10:31 we went out to eat after that they go ahead 10:33 and order something they knew that wasn't good, 10:35 they start to eat and they say oh, 10:37 my knee is starting to hurt. Okay, so refined foods 10:44 you said that's one group, is there another 10:46 type of foods in terms of nutrition 10:48 you want to bring to our attention. 10:49 Yes, you talked about the autoimmune arthritis, 10:53 we call them the inflammatory arthritis, 10:55 but there are also foods that are specifically 10:58 inflammatory for people. 11:01 I had a patient come to my office not long ago 11:04 and they were a high school track star, 11:07 they were a runner, they like to go out 11:09 and run six miles a day, that's a lot. 11:12 I want to do that if I am really afraid of somebody. 11:15 Oh, yes. Well, when we run and then they start 11:19 developing this pain in the ball of their foot. 11:22 It was hurting, it was swelling, 11:24 and they came to see me. 11:25 Well, I set up them up on our program to take care 11:29 of that, but then the mom who was along 11:31 with the young person asked me what, 11:33 how did they get this, what the, 11:36 what causes this? I said well we don't always know, 11:39 but sometimes people have in their diet things 11:42 that are inflammatory. She says well like what? 11:45 I said well there are things that we know are 11:47 inflammatory to everybody and some things are specific 11:51 for certain people. But in this case I told her 11:53 that there is, the most animal products 11:56 especially dairy especially foods that have had 12:00 a rotting process used to create them, 12:05 and she said what's that she asked? Cheese. 12:08 Yes, this would be like cheeses, wines, alcohols, 12:14 and vinegars; she says vinegar? 12:17 I said yeah vinegar, and she says wow well 12:19 he drinks about a half a cup of vinegar a day. 12:23 I said, what really? I didn't know why that was, 12:28 but I asked him well you think 12:29 you could try something else to drink for the next 12:32 couple weeks while we see if we can get you over 12:34 this inflammatory problem and he said yes, 12:37 so he came back in a couple of weeks, 12:39 he done all the things that I told him, 12:40 some hydrotherapy and so forth, drink in lots of water, 12:43 but he had stopped the use of large amounts of vinegar 12:48 and the inflammation had gone away 12:50 he went back to his track. So, the list of these foods 12:56 that are inflammatory, you've mentioned vinegar, 12:58 you've mentioned cheeses or you know 13:01 animal product foods, anything else along 13:03 those inflammatory lines. 13:05 Yes, any food that has been created by rotting, 13:09 but also foods that have had molds growing on them 13:13 when the mold grows on the food it produces aflatoxins. 13:18 Aflatoxins are especially toxic to the system, 13:21 the body reacts to them. 13:23 The way the body reacts all these inflammatory foods 13:27 is that these capillaries that we talked about that 13:30 have to have nutrients move across the capillary wall 13:33 and waste products back those capillaries 13:36 become inflamed and they become thickened, 13:38 the wall of that capillary may actually thickened 13:42 four or more times as usual thickness 13:46 then with a thick capillary wall 13:48 you can't get nutrients across the capillary wall 13:51 is too thick and you can't get waste products 13:54 back out of the tissues back into the bloodstream 13:57 across that thickened capillary wall. 14:00 So, we talked about refined foods, 14:01 we talked about inflammatory foods, 14:03 you have down here also vasoactive foods. 14:07 Vasoactive foods will definitely affect 14:09 your joints. You see vasoactive foods are foods 14:12 that change the way your blood is flowing through 14:16 your system, they regulate the vessels in ways 14:20 that they won't necessarily supposed to be regulated, 14:23 what happens is when you take a vasoactive food 14:27 it tends to clamp down the vessels in the arms 14:31 and legs in order to push blood to the heart 14:34 and brain to make you think you are awake 14:36 like caffeine, like nicotine, like theobromine 14:40 like a different vasoactive amines contained in cheeses 14:44 and wines. 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We want to get back to that, 16:37 but summarize a little bit where we have been, 16:39 you know so people can catch up with us. 16:41 Arthritis is a big problem for people because most 16:45 of things we do, we depend on our arms 16:47 and legs to get around and of course our arms 16:49 and legs have all these joints in them. 16:53 The workplace example, people who get 16:55 arthritis in the knees or hips are basically 16:59 going to be out of work and if this happens 17:00 in their elderly years when they are already 17:03 when they are already headed toward retirement, 17:04 the company is just gonna say well why 17:05 don't you retire early or just you know 17:08 they lay him off, so keeping your bones 17:10 and joints in good shape to the end of your 17:13 life is very important. So, you talked about water, 17:17 exercise, nutrition, talked about circulation 17:20 and illumination and then having this pumping effect 17:23 of the cartilage because we keep moving 17:26 and squeezing things in and squeezing things 17:29 out that's how our cartilage works 17:30 and then we were going through this list of 17:33 foods we said refined foods, inflammatory foods, 17:36 vasoactive foods and slow, well we didn't get 17:40 to this next one. You want to talk about slow 17:42 transit foods. I can kind a get figure that out, 17:45 you know it sounds like peanut butter 17:47 or something, but what exactly is a slow transit 17:49 food. That's right, Don, we wanna talk about 17:52 slow transit foods because they do effect 17:55 the joints by slow transit we mean it takes a 17:58 longtime to get from the mouth out of the system. 18:02 These foods are foods that are usually high in fat 18:06 and low in fiber. The effect is that as the food 18:11 is a longtime in the system, the bacteria have 18:15 heyday they say oh poor guys look what's coming 18:18 and they get longtime to work on it. 18:20 Now bacteria multiply at a fast rate, 18:23 they double every so many minutes 18:25 and if you give them a lot more minutes 18:28 they will overpopulate, they will overgrow. 18:31 Bacteria have a bad habit, they don't clean 18:34 up after themselves and as those bacteria sit 18:37 there they put off toxins, those toxins are 18:41 reabsorbed into the system and they do all 18:43 the things we have talked about so far just like 18:46 the refined foods, the inflammatory foods, 18:49 and all the foods that cause trouble for 18:52 the joints. They create real low or hypercoagulation, 18:56 they create inflammation and they act in the 18:59 same vasoactive ways of the vasoactive foods 19:02 with those toxic mediators, once more since 19:05 the food sits around so long the body, 19:07 you know, what isn't sent out right away tends 19:10 to sit their and reabsorbs some of these things 19:12 you are trying to get rid off and so the body 19:15 has all this accumulation of waste products 19:19 and bacterial toxins. So, slow transit foods 19:22 would be like things that are high in fat, 19:24 they don't move through quickly, that's right, 19:26 any, what are some other slow transit foods? 19:28 Slow transit foods anything that's usually high 19:31 in fat and low in fiber. You look at fast foods; 19:36 usually there are no fiber and lots of fat, 19:39 so like French Fries 70% fat, they just hang out 19:42 for a longtime. That's exactly right, 19:44 other foods that hang out for longtime 19:47 are animal products, usually high in fat and 19:50 no fiber. Animal products are the favorite food 19:54 of bacteria too and so they have a heyday on this. 19:58 Other foods anything that's usually deep fat fried, 20:03 foods that have been refined and that goes 20:05 back to our refined food list. 20:07 People in America usually have about a 20:11 72 hour transit time, where as people on 20:14 a high fiber diet from some of the other 20:17 countries, where refining hasn't become the habit, 20:20 have a less than 30 hour transit time 20:24 and they have less osteoporosis in those 20:25 countries, and less low back pain too and 20:29 less arthritis. That's a very stimulating thought 20:32 to think, you know usually we think, 20:33 well the foods out there on the table better 20:35 covered up, so the flies don't get on it. 20:38 But we don't often think about hey you eat 20:40 certain kinds of food and they go through slow, 20:41 you got all these little bacteria, little flies in 20:44 the body they get out as well. That's right. 20:46 Well that's fascinating. Now, plaque forming 20:49 foods. We usually talk about plaque forming 20:51 foods is being related to, you know, 20:53 the heart and all those different things, 20:55 but how are they related to arthritis. 20:58 You know, the other day I put up an x-ray, 21:01 I was looking at it, and there was actually more 21:04 calcium in the blood vessels in that x-ray of 21:08 a leg then there was in the bones 21:11 because of all the plaque that it formed in 21:14 those blood vessels and I have seen lot 21:16 of patients who came in because they are 21:18 diabetic or they were otherwise they have 21:21 been smoking or something and had developed 21:24 this plaque and they were loosing their limbs 21:26 they had to have amputations, 21:27 while this process also effects the joints. 21:31 You see if the joint can't get blood by it 21:35 then it can't get nutrition and it can't get rid 21:39 of its waste products. So, plaque affects 21:41 joints the same it affects your heart, 21:43 same way it affects strokes in brains, 21:46 it affects the whole body. Refined foods, 21:51 inflammatory foods, vasoactive foods, 21:53 slow transit foods, and plaque forming foods. 21:57 Plaque forming foods, and those foods are 21:58 foods that are usually high in fat, 22:01 high in cholesterol, high in trans fats, 22:05 any food especially that has had oils that 22:09 have been super heated; these foods are 22:12 specially plaque forming. The worst of course are 22:15 foods where cholesterol has been mixed with air 22:20 such as ice cream or even pancake mixes, 22:23 where eggs have been dried and put in the mix, 22:25 so all you have to do is add water. 22:29 You know these foods that you have gone 22:31 through, I mean these are foods that people 22:34 out there you know there is huge restaurant 22:36 chains built around the best pancakes. 22:39 That's right, built around the best this or that, 22:42 I mean each one of these, I could probably put 22:45 a restaurant or food chain, you know next 22:48 to it, there are junk food firms that you know, 22:51 that we could mention, but we won't. 22:54 I mean but they are built around these things, 22:57 so how are you, you know, how you gonna 23:00 impact a culture, I mean the culture is 23:02 being impacted, you are saying they are 23:04 getting arthritis and their bones are falling apart, 23:07 but how could we turn that around? 23:09 Well, we got to get everybody back to the 23:12 garden, that's where the food is the best 23:15 the closer you can eat to the garden the 23:17 better off you will be. If we think about each 23:20 of these areas that I have talked about the 23:22 refined foods and inflammatory foods, 23:25 slow transit foods, vasoactive foods, 23:28 and plaque forming foods, if you eat food 23:31 from the garden you will combat all 23:34 those problems. Refined, if you eat nice 23:37 leafy grains and eat your beans and you know 23:40 your rice and your grains and you eat everything 23:43 close to the garden you get your fiber with 23:46 the food and you end up with more nutrients. 23:49 You know, people that eat lots of meat 23:51 have to be very careful that they get all 23:53 their nutrients and vitamins, those are very 23:57 important for the joints as well. 23:58 Now, when you think about this like the oils; 24:02 people who are on refined oils tend to eat 24:05 a lot more oils that are Omega-6s 24:07 or saturated oils. People on a vegetarian diet 24:12 tend to have a balance between their 24:14 Omega-3s and their Omega-6s. Omega-3 oils 24:18 have been shown to help the blood flow easier, 24:22 to be anti-inflammatory for the joints, 24:26 and also to be good for a lot of problems 24:29 that are caused by oils that are too saturated, 24:33 it's a better alternative. So, we are moving 24:36 from foods that we have to avoid the things 24:37 that they can help us. Yeah, when you talked about 24:40 all those restaurant chains we might be, 24:43 you know, in trouble with, I thought we better 24:45 move to good foods. So, you said there are all 24:48 actually top things you can do that are 24:50 actually good, that can turn things around, 24:52 one thing you have listed here is the 24:54 nutrition what's you are talking about now, 24:56 yes, what about water and all these other 24:59 things you have listed? Because the joint is made 25:03 up of 65 to 80% water, if you dehydrate 25:08 the joint is going to start squeezing down, 25:12 the cartilage is going to get flatter, 25:14 but if you start drinking lot more water it 25:17 helps the joint because it washes out 25:19 the inflammation, it washes out the waste 25:23 products and it helps the joint to recover 25:26 its ability to take on nutrition, the more water 25:30 you can drink up to a point the better off 25:32 you are for your joints. We always tell people 25:34 drink eight to ten glasses of water a day, 25:37 we always talk about other parts of the body 25:40 that they helped, but it's especially important 25:42 for the cartilage. Exercise? Exercise you know 25:46 the best exercise people can do is to go 25:49 walking outside in the open air, 25:52 you get this negatively ionized air, 25:55 fresh air and its actually better than running, 26:00 if you walk the level of oxygen in your system 26:03 is much higher and that oxygen also helps with 26:07 the blood flow, the walking helps with the 26:09 blood flow, the walking helps pump the cartilage 26:12 and you are out, where you can let your stress 26:14 go, you can think about wonderful things 26:17 like God made all these trees and you know 26:20 the sky is blue represents his love for us, 26:22 there are lot of things you can think about, 26:24 as you go outside and walk that actually help 26:28 you in ways you may not be able to put a 26:29 mechanism to. Arthritis most debilitating 26:34 thing it can be what you are saying is avoided 26:38 and perhaps in someway is reversed. 26:40 That's exactly right, I had a babysitter for 26:45 my kid when I was in a school, who was in her 26:50 70s and she had bone on bone arthritis, 26:53 that means you will never recover the 26:55 cartilage, but as long as she was on a good diet 26:58 and she made sure she avoided certain foods 27:02 that were particular to her, she get walk up 27:04 and down the mountain behind her house 27:06 with no pain. If she ate a junk food diet, 27:09 she would be crippled up in no time at all. 27:11 She had figured out what would work for her 27:14 and had put herself on a good diet. 27:17 We have been with Dr. John Clark, 27:19 we have been talking about arthritis. 27:21 We are thankful that you are with us today, 27:23 thank you for taking time from that busy practice 27:26 and your wife and your family and we are also 27:28 thankful that you have been with us today, 27:30 we hope that you have discovered some things 27:31 that can help you know how to help people 27:33 that have arthritis, help you not get arthritis 27:36 yourself if you don't have it or if you do have it 27:38 figure out how to find those toxic foods maybe 27:42 you are drinking a cup of vinegar a day like a one 27:45 example and whatever it is and to reverse that 27:47 replace it with positive foods. We are glad you 27:50 have joined us; we hope that as a result of 27:52 today's program you and your joints will 27:55 have health that lasts for a lifetime. |
Revised 2014-12-17