Participants: Margot Marshall (Host), Dr. John Clark, Jenifer Skues
Series Code: HL
Program Code: HL000002A
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00:15 Welcome to "Healthy Living"
00:17 I'm your host Margot Marshall. 00:18 Is it possible to boost your intelligence? 00:21 And can certain foods actually make us smarter? 00:25 Stay tuned for some compelling insights. 01:03 With us in the studio today we have Jennifer Skues, 01:06 a Health Psychologist, and Dr. John Clark. 01:09 Welcome Jennifer and welcome John. 01:11 Lovely to have you with us today for this subject. Thank you! 01:14 It's an interesting one. 01:16 Oh, it sure is... "Meat and intelligence." 01:18 There must be some mind of connection going on here. 01:21 Would you like to tell us about that John? 01:24 And maybe people are wondering, 01:25 "Well, which meat can I eat to get smarter?" 01:27 Right! Well, I'd like to know that. 01:30 I've often thought about this; some of the people 01:32 building their bodies will try to eat the muscles off of a cow. 01:37 Well, what would you eat in order to have a brighter brain? 01:39 The brain of a monkey? I mean it's like 01:42 we're supposed to be the highest intelligence, 01:44 so what else would you eat? Run out of food now... 01:48 I had a lady came to a seminar I was doing; 01:53 she was interested in health, but she didn't really 02:00 stay awake during all the meetings... 02:02 And, at one point, I was giving a talk on the brain, 02:07 and the health of the brain that had to do with 02:09 Daniel's diet in the Bible. 02:12 Now in the Bible, there's this gentleman by the name of 02:14 Daniel who ends up eating a very good diet, 02:18 and his academics excel. 02:20 He becomes, according to the tests, 10 times wiser 02:25 than all the other wise people in Babylon. Wow 02:28 And you might be interested to see what he wrote 02:30 because he wrote things that are still showing what's 02:33 happening today in our political scene. 02:35 It's in the book of Daniel in the Bible. 02:37 But during this presentation, I shared with them 02:40 that there were certain things that would affect your brain, 02:43 and so you wouldn't be able to think well... 02:46 And as I was talking about that, I was talking about oxygen on 02:49 the brain and she had a mindset, 02:52 "somebody of low oxygen on the brain - that's me!" 02:56 She identified. She identified with that. 02:59 So she was obviously awake at this point, 03:03 to be able to hear that. She got the message, 03:06 and so she decided, "I'm going to go on Daniel's diet." 03:11 She didn't tell me this and it was an area where I lived, 03:15 so I was around and 6 weeks later, 03:18 she came up to me and she says, "Oh Dr. Clark,", 03:20 and I said, "Oh Hi, how can I help you?" 03:22 And she said, "Well I'm not here to try and get some 03:23 help from you, I just want to tell you what's been going on." 03:26 I said, "Well tell me what's been going on!" 03:29 And she said, "Well I've had this issue where I fall asleep 03:34 during meetings and not very bright. 03:38 It's a common phenomenon when you run groups. 03:41 It sure is and she said, "I decided, 6 weeks ago, 03:45 to follow Daniel's diet, and in 6 weeks, 03:48 I've lost 30 pounds." 03:50 And as much as that's great and I want to continue that, 03:52 that isn't the real reason why I did it." 03:54 She said, "The real reason I did it was so I would stay awake." 03:57 She said, "Thank you for giving me back my brain." 04:01 "Now when you guys are up front talking, I'm wide awake, 04:04 and I learn and I get something out of it." 04:07 Aww, that's fantastic. That's really fantastic! 04:09 So, why do you think... maybe before I ask you that, 04:13 why you think what she did helped her, 04:17 maybe we'll just ask Jenny... 04:18 Jenny, can there be other things that give us brain fog, 04:22 other besides diet. 04:24 There are a lot of things that can interfere 04:27 with the functioning of the brain. 04:28 Certainly there are a lot of foods... 04:30 You know, sugar which we've 04:31 sort of talked a bit about is one; 04:33 oils is another one, but when it comes to 04:36 stress and trauma, that can certainly interfere 04:39 with brain function and actually impair our intelligence. 04:43 And, particularly people who have had a lot of trauma 04:46 at a very young age and that's even pre-2, 04:49 even conception to birth up to 2 years of age. 04:52 It can really inhibit the ability 04:54 for the brain to function. 04:56 And another one particularly for children is 04:58 if a child is told by a teacher or an adult 05:01 they don't have a brain in their head, they're stupid, 05:03 you know, they won't amount to much, they take it literally. 05:06 They will stop using their intelligence. 05:08 All right, so there are multiples. There are 05:09 a few things that impact on the brain, 05:11 and this is what we want to do in this program 05:14 as you obviously know, it's not all just about 05:18 the physical and the foods and so on than the physical. 05:21 It's multifaceted. 05:23 That's right, we are mental, physical, spiritual, social. 05:26 All of that, all blended into our being, all of who we are, 05:30 and they all have a role to play, and it's really great 05:33 to have both of you here so that we can look at it 05:36 from these different angles because 05:38 it's not just one department. 05:41 Your intelligence is the director of everything. 05:43 So how we use our intelligence is important. 05:46 It's only one-third of the brain, that prefrontal cortex, 05:49 left and right brain that is the intelligence center, 05:52 and as you know, once that is damaged beyond repair, 05:55 and you're in that vegetable state, they take you off 05:57 life support if you're on that. 05:59 So this is where, when we're talking about intelligence, 06:02 like what was happening for her, it was that part of the brain 06:05 that was shutting down or not coping. 06:08 All right, perhaps we can go back to you now, John, 06:11 and you can explain a little bit more about what it is 06:14 that she was having difficulty staying awake, 06:17 and then 6 weeks later, after changing what she ate, 06:20 she wasn't having that difficulty apart from 06:23 losing some weight... that's a good thing. 06:26 That's right and it might be nice to explain a little bit 06:28 about Daniel's diet. 06:30 This gentleman is put into Babylon rather forcefully. 06:34 He's captured and he is a prisoner. 06:36 I'd call that forceful. Forceful. 06:38 And they put him on the prison diet... 06:40 Well, it wasn't the prison diet, it was actually the king's food. 06:43 Boy, you imagine what a king would eat! 06:45 You think of kings! 06:48 It could be the best and the richest. 06:51 Oh, anything he wanted... I mean rich foods, 06:54 and particularly it was pointed out the meats that he ate 06:58 and the wine which he drank. 06:59 Well wine is another one that affects brain function 07:02 and our intelligence. 07:03 I think we probably all know that. 07:07 Anyone who has ever seen someone who had 07:10 something to drink realizes it has a very big 07:13 noticeable effect. 07:14 It impacts the conscience and the will shuts it down 07:16 so you can't make a good decision which is so important, 07:20 and that's where Daniel, he didn't drink wine 07:22 so it didn't shut his intelligence down. 07:25 He was able to make good decisions, 07:26 and as far as the meat goes, studies have shown 07:30 if somebody eats what's called biblically clean meats... 07:34 You know, if you go to Leviticus, there is a list of 07:35 meats that the Bible says are clean. 07:38 Studies show that people who eat that kind of meat 07:40 it does slow the brain down. Okay 07:43 But if they eat the meats on the list that are considered 07:46 unclean, we're talking pork is a classic one 07:50 or seafood that is not fish with fins and scales, 07:54 then it slows the brain down 7 times more than what 07:58 is considered the clean meats. 08:00 Really? That is amazing. I didn't know that. 08:02 Yeah, very interesting research and they've traced it 08:06 to arachidic acid in quinine in meat that contributes 08:10 to the poor mental performance 08:12 when somebody is eating flesh foods. 08:13 And so, are they more abundant in the foods 08:16 that you are suggesting, you know, the unclean 08:18 as they are described in the Bible. 08:19 So they've got 7 times as much, is that right...no, no, 08:22 the effect is 7 times as much, but they must have more 08:26 of those two things, is that what you're saying? 08:27 Apparently. Oh, okay. 08:29 If you have a look at meat today, it's not just 08:31 what you're talking about with that particular problem, 08:34 meat has got a lot of diseases, the way it's prepared 08:38 or the way that it's grown, like the types of farms, 08:44 like you look at chickens and that, 08:45 so it's more than just that now. 08:48 The quality of meat is lacking, even if it's a clean meat. 08:51 Yeah, that's the truth, very true, 08:53 and the hormones they give the cattle. 08:55 I was talking to a cattleman, he said, "Well, we don't want 08:58 cows all year dropping calves at any old time, 09:01 so we give them a bunch of hormones so they all 09:03 calve at the same time. 09:04 Then we give the calves hormones so they grow much faster, 09:08 and, I mean, I don't know about here in Australia, 09:10 but in America, it's all pharmaceutically-driven. 09:14 They found it impacts children's development, 09:16 particularly they are developing earlier, hormonally, 09:19 because of all the hormones in meats, you see. 09:21 So you can see, and that affects the brain then. 09:24 Oh yeah. Interesting. 09:26 In the Bible it says sometimes to do this or not do that, 09:30 and no explanation whatsoever, but we're now finding out 09:34 that science is really catching up with that, 09:36 and the reasons are just profound and it's a shame 09:39 we have to find things out the hard way, isn't it? 09:42 And not just take... Yeah, health being impacted. 09:45 Take the word of the One who actually created us, 09:47 and says, "Look, do this and don't do that." 09:50 And we think, "Aww, can't see the problem," 09:53 and then when we do, it's really quite an 09:54 unpleasant outcome often. 09:56 Like you know, the fats you were talking about the other day. 09:59 Yes, and that would be another factor here with meat is 10:02 the animal products generally have more fat, 10:05 and the fat is usually a thicker, harder fat, 10:08 often thick and hard at room temperature. 10:12 And so somebody eating more meat will have more fat 10:15 in the blood and the more fat in the blood, the less oxygen, 10:17 the less oxygen, the less ability to think and to reason. 10:21 And so, here's this lady who has switched from eating meat 10:25 and a high fat diet - to eating a diet like Daniel 10:29 which was vegetables and water is what he asked for. 10:33 And she reaps a benefit that she's like, "Thank you for 10:38 giving me my brain back." Yeah 10:40 When you say vegetables and water, it would have been 10:42 like fruits and vegetables and all the plant foods 10:46 would be brought on just vegetables, wouldn't it? 10:48 I would think so and we would say, from the rest of the Bible 10:52 that the diet that is recommended is 10:54 you would have your beans and your grains, 10:55 and your nuts and your seeds, 10:57 and your vegetables and your fruit. 10:58 And, you know, plant-based diet. That's right, beautiful! 11:02 And there's a lot of, oh, a lot of support for that 11:06 out there - a huge amount of support for plant-based diets. 11:10 It's a shame that it has taken us so long to catch up 11:12 with that ancient wisdom, isn't it? 11:15 One of the things you mentioned, John, was about oxygen, 11:18 and that's an interesting one because if we don't have 11:21 oxygen in the brain, the brain can decay, die, 11:25 the tissues will die. 11:26 But they found now that in our atmosphere, 11:30 that we actually have a lot lower oxygen. 11:32 So that means we're not breathing in as much, 11:34 and they're saying that people have about 20% less oxygen 11:38 in their system than they used to. 11:40 And that's some of the recent studies that I've heard about, 11:43 so that would contribute. 11:45 So really, when we look at diet and health, 11:47 we want foods that are going to really boost the brain, 11:49 and allow oxygen to function or put it into the cells 11:53 which is another reason when you look at that 11:55 mind-body connection, it's very powerful. 11:57 That's not a good thought to think that we've got 12:01 20% less oxygen than we used to, 12:03 so we really need to try and get out in the fresh air, 12:05 and do breathing and take foods that are going to lift us up, 12:09 and help that factor. 12:11 We probably don't know even how good we could feel. 12:14 That's right, but probably not until you do it, you realize. 12:17 Okay, or how we were yesterday to today and so on. 12:19 But we probably would be amazed to have that extra oxygen. 12:24 I had a client who, she had sleep apnea and sleep apnea 12:27 means you stop breathing at night for a period of time, 12:30 and it lowers the oxygen levels in the brain. 12:32 And she was waking up where she got disoriented; 12:36 she couldn't function; she couldn't remember things; 12:39 her memory was really bad, and she was in the clinic 12:42 where I was working and she ended up going and getting 12:46 one of those machines, an APAP machine 12:49 that helps the oxygen levels at night, 12:52 and the difference was remarkable. 12:54 She was told that if she didn't do that, her brain would 12:58 literally die because her oxygen levels were so low 13:01 in the morning, it would be causing permanent 13:03 like dementia-type state. 13:05 So that's how powerful, with our brain and our intelligence, 13:08 that something like that is. 13:10 And this sort of goes both ways. 13:12 We think about the diet improving the brain, 13:17 but you can use your brain to improve your diet, obviously. 13:20 That's right! That's right! 13:22 And so better choices on foods make a difference. 13:25 I was at a place out in Colorado, 13:28 where one of the gentleman there had a problem with 13:31 snoring which is usually a sign this might be 13:34 headed toward the sleep apnea. 13:36 He changed his diet to one like Daniel's diet, 13:40 and within 6 weeks, he was no longer snoring. 13:44 His wife said, his snore went away. 13:46 He slept better. 13:47 Okay well research shows it takes about 6 years off 13:50 your life if your snore, so there you go! 13:54 Yeah, that's a lot, isn't it? 13:56 I think that's scary. It is isn't it? 13:59 So if you're snoring, you need to do things, 14:03 and diet and treat it. 14:04 You need to get a grip on and that can make such a difference. 14:07 It's not even just the length of our lives, 14:10 it's the quality of our lives between now and then 14:13 because it's going to come to all of us, 14:15 but quality of life is huge. 14:18 So, you know, and that's what you were talking about 14:22 with this lady who is falling asleep and had brain fog 14:26 and everything and then you mentioned this other person. 14:29 So yeah, that's really important, 14:33 that's right here, right now. 14:35 Six weeks to be able to get rid of the snoring, great. 14:40 And another aspect to this, I mean, it got rid of snores, 14:44 the study showed somebody will switch to a total 14:46 vegetarian diet, especially one that would help you lose weight 14:49 which it usually does. Which helps... 14:51 It actually clears up psychotic symptoms. 14:54 I'm sure you found that in your profession. 14:56 It's one of the things I do and I've done some training 14:59 in nutritional medicine for mental health, 15:01 and that's one of the prime moves. 15:02 One is sugar and I get parents coming to me with their kids 15:06 who are just running amuck at home and can't focus 15:08 and their room is a mess; the first thing I do is get 15:11 them to change their diet and often that is the thing 15:14 that helps their behavior so it's no longer that 15:16 ADHD hyperactivity, they actually can settle and focus. 15:21 You talked about psychotic, that sounds terrible 15:23 to think that the way we're eating and living 15:27 and so on can do that, that's just not falling asleep, 15:32 that's a bit more serious. 15:34 Well this is where the brain is very deranged 15:36 with psychosis and it can't rationally work, 15:39 it can't function properly. 15:41 And the contributing things to that are sugar and what else 15:45 ... well more, you were talking about foods, 15:47 and we've got to remember, a lot of people are eating 15:48 foods that probably have lots of additives and things 15:51 that affect the brain and that's a contributing factor. 15:55 It's the types of foods which is what John is talking about, 15:58 but it's also what is in the foods; the sprays, 16:00 that, you know, all these things that, 16:02 you know, so this is why looking at quality of food 16:04 is vital, so trying to get organics and getting things 16:08 that aren't sprayed or at least cleaning them properly 16:10 if you can't afford that. Yes 16:13 And you think about this, our topic is 16:15 "meat and intelligence," what if I ate the food the cow ate? 16:20 How many pounds of food does it take to make him 16:22 produce one pound of meat? 16:24 Well it's like 16 pounds of grain and probably 16:27 many more pounds of grass to produce one pound of meat, 16:30 but you know, you eat that meat. 16:32 Suppose for example, the cow was eating nice greens 16:35 that had vitamin C, guess what? 16:37 None of that vitamin C comes through the meat. 16:39 I tell people if they're going to choose meat 16:41 as a part of their diet, they have to be very careful 16:43 or they're not going to get their nutrition. 16:45 It's nutritionally poor, you want nutritionally 16:48 dense foods and that's going to be your fresh fruits, 16:51 your fresh vegetables, your nuts and seeds, 16:52 your beans, your grains... 16:54 It's not going to be what the cow ate to produce 16:56 a little bit of protein. 16:57 And when you look at the size of the land you use 17:00 for the cow if you put in a grain crop, 17:03 the density is far greater than a cow on that piece of land. 17:07 That's right and it's becoming a really big issue 17:10 with the population explosion. 17:12 That's another whole area that we might talk about 17:14 on another day. 17:15 But it is a huge issue, really worse than we 17:18 probably even realize. 17:20 But that was a good point that you made, John, about 17:25 not getting some of the nutrients that the cow, 17:29 for example, got and another one is phytochemicals. 17:32 There are thousands of them and "phyto" means plant. 17:35 They only come in plant foods. 17:38 Now, they just don't appear in any animals foods, 17:41 so it really is better to go to the primary source 17:44 of the nutrition because the cow does all right on 17:48 a vegetarian diet, doesn't it? 17:51 I was going to say, intelligence does depend on nutrition, 17:54 right? If we don't have the nutrients, the brain can't 17:57 function our intelligence is impaired. 17:59 They've done a lot of studies even here in our country, 18:02 and in other countries on children and intelligence, 18:05 and they found when you have children who are on a junk 18:08 food diet, their intelligence doesn't develop because 18:11 when we're talking about what we call "IQ," 18:13 "intelligent quotient," which is how we mentally function 18:17 to process in time and space and do mathematics 18:20 and things like that, and that can be impaired 18:24 where their intelligence that they inherit 18:26 is actually not fulfilled. 18:29 So we can do a lot of damage, trauma will damage that as well, 18:32 but the good news is the brain is what we call, "neuroplastic," 18:35 it grows and changes. 18:37 The cells and the neurons can actually grow in new pathways 18:41 which makes a huge difference. 18:43 So we can develop intelligence 18:45 to our maximum inherited capacity. Yes 18:48 And there's another kind of intelligence too... 18:51 Do you want to have a little word about that? 18:53 When we talk about intelligence, and this is something 18:56 that is being more noticed now, we have to look at 18:58 our emotions and what we call "emotional quotient." 19:02 We've have the intelligence quotient, 19:04 and we've got an emotional quotient. 19:05 The intelligence quotient is inherited, 19:07 but your emotional quotient is learned. Yes 19:10 So if you are born into a family where there is trauma 19:13 or some sort of problem and stress, then emotionally, 19:18 you're not developing even from 19:19 conception to birth in a healthy way. 19:22 Because the baby's brain, up until 2, 19:24 the brain functions on survival and emotion, 19:27 it doesn't have the IQ factor, 19:29 and that develops from about 2 on. 19:31 But if there is damage and that child is programming 19:34 that damage emotionally, that it impairs the ability to 19:37 use their IQ from 2 on and they go 19:40 on to either control or chaos. 19:44 So that means intelligence is impaired and emotions are, 19:48 you know, people are not coping emotionally. 19:50 You know, they have fear, anxiety, 19:52 obsessive compulsive disorders, and it all goes back 19:55 to that early childhood development in the environment 19:58 and how their emotions develop. 20:01 And look, we all want to be more intelligent. We do! 20:04 In terms of our IQ and not impairing that, unclouding it, 20:08 and we all want that emotional intelligence too, 20:10 so what a tremendous thing that we know the kinds of 20:13 foods which are going to help us to actually function better, 20:18 and make better choices which will help us to function better 20:21 and so it goes around, yes. 20:23 I might say, on this business of meat and intelligence, 20:27 somebody eating largely a meat diet, is increasing the amount 20:32 of protein in their diet, at least to a certain extent, 20:36 but not getting much complex carbohydrates. Yes 20:40 ... Which means that the body is going to be shifted from 20:42 running the brain on glucose to running it on ketones, 20:47 a breakdown of protein and that is not the brain's favorite food 20:51 for functioning at its highest level. 20:54 What it can do is inflame the brain and that causes 20:58 irritability, so when you're looking at emotions in people, 21:01 particularly if they are eating a lot of meat, 21:02 and not really getting other nutrients, 21:04 the literature I've looked at suggests that it can 21:08 cause anger, aggression. 21:10 You know, people who are big meat-eaters 21:12 it can be more aggressive than people who are not. 21:14 So that's again the emotional quotient, isn't it? Yes 21:17 Because if aggression is not a healthy thing, 21:18 it's not an intelligent thing. No, no that's right. 21:21 I think it's tremendous, Jenny, that you are a health 21:25 psychologist because you've got a feel for both of these 21:29 things and when people come to you with problems, 21:33 you can also help them to make good food choices 21:37 to help them with what's going 21:38 on in their emotions and in their minds. 21:40 So, what a lovely combination to have both of those. 21:44 I get good results, yeah, because people are doing 21:47 the whole package, not just trying to think 21:49 their way out of things. That's right! 21:50 They are actually fine-tuning the intelligence 21:53 in the system by doing things like that 21:55 and certainly meat is one that we need to really 21:58 reconsider our options. 22:00 Yeah, tremendous connection between the mind and the body 22:02 and the body and the mind. Totally 22:04 And I don't think we half appreciate that, 22:07 and even though we might even know it, we can forget that, 22:10 but it's a really, really important thing to know. 22:13 Yes, this is why it's so important to educate people. 22:15 A lot of what I do, and the same with you, John, 22:17 I'm sure is to educate. Yes 22:19 Give people intelligent choices and help them to 22:21 understand because when they understand how the brain works, 22:24 and what's impacting it like meat, 22:26 then they're going to make better choices. Yes 22:28 I don't know how this is actually sounding 22:31 to some of the people tuning in, especially people who 22:34 ... I mean I grew up eating meat, and if I had had 22:37 my way, which I did not, I would have eaten meat 22:42 and left the vegetables, they were not my preferred thing, 22:45 but, unfortunately, I had good parents who made me 22:50 eat my vegetables, and in my teens I became a vegetarian, 22:55 not a healthy one though, but over time, 22:59 I've progressed from there and I understand the 23:01 kinds of things that you've been talking about here. 23:04 And it's just made such a difference because I actually, 23:07 honestly, apart from the odd time, we all have times 23:12 when we're not on top, but, honestly, I have more energy 23:16 now than when I was in my teens, I was not doing well. 23:18 You actually get younger when you give up meat, not older. 23:21 Because I was brought up like you the meat and 3-veg principle 23:25 and have changed my diet and the more I refine it and improve 23:28 on it and learn and that's why I find I like listening 23:31 to John because he teaches me a lot. Yes 23:33 The better my brain works and I get the tiredness, 23:35 I sleep much better, it cures a lot of mental illnesses. 23:38 A lot of things happen, a lot of things 23:40 that impact on our life, and so sleep is a huge thing. 23:44 It's really huge because if you don't get enough sleep, 23:46 you don't function. 23:48 So all these things come together, 23:51 and I was just thinking back to Daniel and the situation 23:55 he was in and it was a terrible situation, 23:57 have to be called trauma, but he drew on his 24:02 spiritual resources and that was a really big thing. 24:06 And I would just say to people tuning in, 24:09 if you haven't done that and you don't even know how, 24:12 be aware that there is a God who loves you so much 24:16 that He would rather die than live without you, 24:19 and that's a fact because that's what happened. 24:21 And, if you're not sure even how to plug in to the source 24:24 of life itself, so-to-speak, just talk to Him like 24:28 you would to a friend about anything... anything! 24:31 Because everything that matters to you, matters to God; 24:36 the good, the bad, and the ugly, 24:38 so you can talk to Him about anything. 24:41 It might be a new thing, but I think that's such an 24:43 important thing and that got Daniel and his three friends 24:46 through life-threatening situations. 24:49 They had to face that and it's something that I don't 24:54 think some people even perhaps understand or utilize, 24:57 and it's such a big thing that will impact on us just as much 25:01 if not more, than the physical aspect of food and exercise 25:05 and so on and the thinking aspect is another strand that 25:08 we need to think about. 25:13 Well their brains were sharp, weren't they, 25:15 and they used their intelligence to make an intelligent 25:18 decision not to go with the 25:19 meat and the things at the feasts. Yes, they did. 25:22 And maybe you're thinking, "Well, if I eat vegetables, 25:24 where am I going to get my strength?" 25:26 Of course, we're talking about meat and intelligence here, 25:28 but I'll tell you a story... I had a gentleman 25:31 whose job it was to load semitrailers with wood for 25:36 wood heaters and he was filling his trailers, 25:39 and he'd would be so worn out at the end of the day... 25:41 he was in his 20s, he thought he would get strong, 25:44 but he was just always worn out and so tired; 25:45 he'd come home and go to bed and go to sleep, 25:47 and not spend time with the family. 25:49 He came to some of our meetings, decided okay, 25:52 we need to eat more vegetables. 25:53 Told his wife, "Let's eat more vegetables." 25:56 Within about 6 weeks, he was feeling strong; 26:00 he wasn't coming home all tired out and he was getting stronger. 26:03 He wasn't all worn out at the end of the day. 26:06 Vegetables give you much more strength than meat. 26:10 Well they're more dense in nutrients, 26:11 it makes sense, doesn't it? 26:13 And they've got the carbs which is the energy source 26:17 that our body really needs to function on... 26:19 And you'll find this in any of the recommendations 26:23 I think, in the various countries, plant foods dominate. 26:27 It's not what we do, but that's the recommendation, 26:31 and if we were closer to the recommendations even of 26:35 our country, we would do better. 26:38 We do not do well in Australia. 26:40 We are so far from the recommendations, 26:44 it's a little bit scary... Well, a lot of countries are like that 26:47 It's often the cultures that live more simply 26:51 that actually have better diets because they live off the land; 26:55 they grow their own foods; they don't eat as much. 26:59 And often they found, that like to eat meat, 27:01 but they often found that people that come from those 27:03 countries can come to a Western diet, start to deteriorate 27:06 and get a lot of the diseases we do. Ohh yes 27:08 That's quite well-documented in the research. 27:10 That's right, that's right. In the migrant studies 27:13 it shows again and again, doesn't it, 27:15 when people move to an area where they're eating more like 27:17 Western people or developed countries do that, 27:20 they pay dearly for that. 27:22 So that's been a little bit like a recurring theme, isn't it? 27:27 It doesn't seem to matter what we're looking at 27:29 what problems we're looking at, this seems to be 27:32 the kind of lifestyle that's going to make us 27:35 better in so many different ways. 27:37 But that's been really good, and thank you for those stories. 27:41 Thank you for the information, and Jenny, you had the other 27:44 aspects too that went on to help us have a clear brain 27:48 so that we can function better and so that we can make 27:51 better choices so that we'll have a clear brain. 27:55 So that's our program for today. 27:58 And if you would like a fact sheet of the program, 28:00 or you would like to watch our programs on demand, 28:03 just visit our website: 3abnaustralia.org.au 28:07 and click on the watch button, 28:09 and John or Jennifer are happy to answer your questions. 28:13 So if you have questions that we haven't covered 28:15 or you have a health concern, just email them at 28:19 Healthy Living at: 3abnaustralia.org.au 28:23 And join us next time on "Healthy Living" |
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