Participants: John Bradshaw (Host), David DeRose
Series Code: IIW
Program Code: IIW001295A
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00:10 God's book, the Bible; 00:15 still relevant in today's complex world. 00:21 It Is Written, sharing hope around the globe. 00:32 [Theme rings out] 00:36 JB: Thanks for joining me today. I'm John Bradshaw 00:39 and this is It Is Written. You know, it is said that you 00:43 are what you eat; but if you survey the population as a 00:46 whole, you find out that a whole lot of people are ... 00:50 sick, and could it be that many people are sick today because 00:56 they are what they eat. Now, why does this even matter 01:01 on a Bible discussion program such as It Is Written? 01:05 Well, I'll tell you why. Jesus said He came into this 01:07 world so that we might have life and that we might live it 01:11 more abundantly. But in the midst of 01:14 an obesity epidemic, an increasing-- 01:17 radically increasing-- incidence of things 01:20 such as diabetes and other lifestyle illnesses, 01:23 it doesn't look like a lot of people are enjoying 01:25 a more abundant life, but instead 01:27 a less abundant life. Let's see if we can get to the 01:30 bottom of this today and find out how we can enjoy 01:33 the more abundant life that Jesus offers to us. 01:37 I'm being joined today by my guest, Dr. David DeRose, 01:41 a specialist in the areas of internal medicine 01:43 and preventive medicine. We'll talk about that today, 01:46 big-time. Dr. DeRose comes to us from 01:48 Compass Health Consulting in Northern California. 01:51 Thanks for joining me today, David. 01:52 I'm glad you're here. DD: It's great to be with you, 01:54 John. JB: So it's true, 01:55 you are what you eat. Yeah, you've got to be careful 01:57 but what we eat impacts us in a massive way. 02:00 DD: Literally, we are what we eat. 02:02 The elements that make up our bodies are those very 02:05 things that we ingested-- or that our mother ingested. 02:07 JB: Somebody mentioned this to me recently, and I think a lot 02:10 of people are really surprised by this. 02:13 Your blood is made from what you eat; 02:17 what you put into your body. What you put in actually, 02:20 literally, physically becomes part of who you are. 02:22 Correct or not? DD: That's right. 02:23 It's not just your blood, it's every single cell 02:25 of your body. I mean, those are the raw 02:27 materials that make up the body. They have to come 02:30 from somewhere. They don't just come 02:31 out of the air, although oxygen, 02:33 of course, does. But we actually need to eat 02:36 in order to make every cell in our body. 02:38 JB: So, as cells are being regenerated, rejuvenated, 02:42 repaired, it all comes back to the fact they are being made 02:45 from-- what we are is being made from-- what we put in. 02:50 DD: That's right. And some of those cells are 02:52 turning over very rapidly. You mentioned 02:54 the red blood cells. They turn over about every three 02:56 months, about a hundred-day lifespan for the red blood cell. 03:00 And although some things are recycled-- like the iron 03:03 in the red blood cell, that's largely recycled-- 03:06 but other things we need to ingest in order to make 03:09 those new cellular components. JB: You know, it seems to me, 03:12 if we are being regenerated at a cellular level by the things 03:15 that we put into our bodies, wouldn't just knowing that make 03:19 you stop and say, well, I need to be putting in good stuff to 03:22 make good cells or red blood cells or whatever. 03:26 DD: One of my favorite texts when we speak 03:28 about this topic actually is in the book of Genesis. 03:31 JB: All right. DD: Because there God is 03:33 creating a perfect world. And in Genesis 1-- 03:37 JB: Right at the beginning. DD: That's right, right at the 03:39 beginning. First chapter of the Bible, you 03:41 go down to verse 29 and you see that God has a specific plan, 03:46 as far as our nutritional program. God said, 03:49 "See, I have given you every herb that yields seed 03:53 which is on the face of all the earth and every tree 03:56 whose fruit yields seed, to you it shall be for food." 04:00 God is giving mankind, humankind, a vegetarian diet 04:05 in the very beginning. And what we find today, John, 04:08 is the optimal diet to avoid most of these chronic diseases 04:12 that we're talking about is a diet that focuses 04:14 on those whole plant foods. JB: Okay, but also, later on, 04:18 God said, "Take the Passover lamb"-- 04:22 DD: No question. JB: And then made out of kale 04:23 and all of that-- DD: You've got it. 04:25 JB: Well, they eat grass. DD: That's right. 04:28 JB: Take the Passover lamb and eat that. 04:30 That's not a-- it may have been 04:32 a vegetarian lamb, but people who 04:34 eat lambs aren't vegetarians. So, what was God 04:36 doing back here. Eat these things that don't have 04:39 mothers or faces; and over here, go ahead and eat meat. 04:45 DD: And you could even take that a step further. 04:47 When Jesus fed the multitude, He didn't just give them bread, 04:51 which is a vegetarian product. He gave them-- 04:54 JB: Bread and fish. DD: That's right. 04:56 JB: So, are we seeing a contradiction here? 04:58 DD: What I find so interesting, John. 05:00 It's an excellent question. God meets people 05:02 where they're at. God's first concern-- as I read 05:06 the Bible as both a physician and as a Bible student-- 05:09 His first concern has always been our spiritual health and 05:12 our relationship with Him. But you see this theme running 05:16 throughout the Bible. When God wants to give people 05:18 an optimal diet, whether it's in Genesis or in their wilderness 05:22 wanderings, God does not give them animal products. 05:26 There was no raining of quail until the people demanded it, 05:32 if you will. JB: And then when they ate 05:33 the quail, they became sick from eating it. 05:35 DD: Yeah, at least the second time around. 05:37 JB: So in the wilderness, God gave them a type of food 05:40 that matched up with what we find in Genesis chapter 1. 05:43 DD: Exactly. So, here's the interesting 05:45 thing, though. Let's talk about some of the 05:47 things we want to avoid today, and it really brings out this 05:49 dialogue. The lamb of Jesus' day; 05:52 the fish of Jesus' day. They didn't have one of the big 05:56 problems that we're dealing with today, and that is an 05:58 accumulation of toxins in their tissues. 06:01 Today, a huge issue is our contaminated environment. 06:05 And some of the things that are contaminating our environment 06:07 are heavy metals. Things like mercury or cadmium. 06:12 Things like toxins. Toxins like DDT, 06:16 and it's metabolized. You say, "Well, 06:18 we don't use that anymore." But it's still 06:19 in the environment. Lead-- still in the environment. 06:22 What happens is, if you look at living creatures, the higher up 06:26 you move on the food chain, the greater the concentration 06:30 of those toxins. Roughly speaking, 06:33 about a tenfold increase, every level you go up. 06:37 You take the phytoplankton, living in the water. 06:41 Those waters are contaminated. They have a concentration 06:44 of a toxin in their tissue. Then you look at the small fish 06:47 that eat the phytoplankton. Roughly about 10 times as much 06:51 of that toxin will be in their tissue, gram for gram. 06:55 You go to the bigger fish that eats the smaller fish. 06:58 Now you've got a hundred times what was in that phytoplankton. 07:01 When you get up to things very high on the food chain, 07:04 like the birds of prey, you can understand why the California 07:08 condor was dying out, before we started to get serious about 07:12 controlling the environment. It doesn't mean all the toxins 07:15 are gone, but the point is, those foods that in Jesus' day, 07:19 we would say would be good sources. 07:22 People living on the shores of the Sea of Galilee. 07:24 Jesus wouldn't reasonably say you can't have fish; 07:26 that was a staple in their diet. But a much healthier choice 07:30 back then than it is today. JB: It's true that you are what 07:32 you eat, and you want to live a long, happy, abundant, 07:36 healthy life. The longer and healthier you can 07:38 live, the better quality of life you can have, 07:41 on balance, and the more you can glorify God. 07:45 So, if you are what you eat, what are you eating? 07:47 We'll find out more with Dr. David DeRose 07:49 in just a moment. 07:51 ♪ [Gentle Melody] ♪ >: You are watching the 07:54 weekly It Is Written program with Pastor John Bradshaw, 07:57 but did you know that there's a daily program, too? 08:00 Every Word is a one-minute Bible-based daily devotional 08:03 presented by Pastor John Bradshaw and designed especially 08:06 for busy people like you. Look for Every Word on selected 08:10 networks, or watch it online every day on our website, 08:13 ItIsWritten.com. Receive a daily spiritual boost. 08:17 Watch Every Word. You'll be glad you did. 08:22 ♪ [Rythmic Melody] ♪ 08:30 JB: I was eating the other day, as you do, when it occurred to 08:33 me again that I'd have to eat again in just five hours or so. 08:37 We eat, and then we have to eat some more. 08:40 We're dependent on that food, that fuel. 08:43 God didn't have to design us that way, but it seems He might 08:45 have done so to try to get us to remember something. 08:48 Just as you are dependent on constant, regular nourishment to 08:51 get through life, you're dependent on the grace of God 08:53 to get you through each day. We ought to be leaning on God 08:56 and feeding on His Word for spiritual strength, 08:59 just as we feed on food for physical strength. 09:02 Some of us are guilty of eating a little too much and guilty 09:05 of feeding on the Bible a little too little. 09:07 In John 6, verse 48, Jesus said, "I am the bread of life." 09:13 I want to encourage you today to eat well. 09:17 I'm John Bradshaw for It Is Written. 09:19 Let's live today by every word. 09:23 JB: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw. 09:25 Thank you for joining me today. And we are being joined by 09:27 Dr. David DeRose from Compass Health Consultants 09:30 in Northern California. Dr. DeRose, today we're talking 09:33 about what people eat. That old saying, 09:36 you are what you eat. And a moment ago, 09:38 we were starting to talk about foods that are a little 09:40 higher up the food chain. The higher up you go, the 09:43 greater the concentration of toxins, and perhaps poisons and 09:47 heavy metals in those foods. The bigger foods, 09:50 more than the smaller. In the beginning God gave the 09:53 human family, without a doubt, a vegetarian, 09:55 a plant-based diet. Then later He said, well, okay, 09:59 you certainly may eat some of this or some of that. 10:02 He never did say you'll be better for it. 10:05 And you notice too, that when animals entered the menu was 10:10 at the same time that people started living dramatically 10:12 shorter lives. DD: Very interesting. 10:14 Very interesting. JB: Yeah. 10:15 Clean and unclean food. It's certainly biblical, 10:18 but is it valid today and is it just for the Jews? 10:21 DD: Well, first of all, the distinction of clean 10:25 and unclean animals and today's ever being a Jew. 10:28 If you read the account of the flood, that great deluge, 10:31 Noah was instructed about the animals, and there were clean 10:35 and unclean that were identified in that account. 10:39 So it's not something that God added just for the benefit 10:41 of the Jews. JB: In Genesis 7, in verse 2, 10:45 "Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, 10:48 the male and the female, and of the beasts that are 10:50 not clean by two, the male and his female." 10:53 God identifying clean and unclean animals before there was 10:56 even a Jew on the planet. DD: And many have said, 10:59 "Well, why?" Well, we see there's sacrifice 11:02 after the flood, but there was also going to be apparently a 11:04 necessity to eat some of those animals after all the vegetation 11:08 was essentially wiped off the earth. 11:11 JB: And if you ate one of the unclean, 11:12 you'd go from two to one. The species would be gone. 11:15 DD: And so the very point about how many were taken on was 11:17 making a powerful, powerful statement about what were 11:20 sacrificial and potentially permissible animals to eat-- 11:24 only those that were clean. JB: Is there health benefits to 11:27 abstaining from these animals that are called unclean? 11:30 DD: No question. Now, you've identified some 11:32 animals, like the horse and the rabbit, 11:35 that are largely vegetarian. So they'd be lower on the food 11:38 chain, if you will. But many of the animals that 11:42 are excluded-- you read a description, for example, 11:44 in Leviticus 11 of what those unclean animals are-- 11:48 and you'll find the scavengers, like you mentioned. 11:50 The pigs, the crustacea of the ocean. 11:54 You'll also find things that are very high on the food chain, 11:58 like the birds of prey. All of those things 12:01 were off limits. We know today, 12:03 the technical term is called "biomagnification." 12:07 What that means is, like we were expressing earlier in the show, 12:11 if you eat things that are low on the food chain-- those small, 12:13 little fish-- they're going to have low levels of toxins 12:17 and contaminants. As you move up the level, 12:21 you will get higher and higher levels of toxins. 12:23 JB: When you think about something like a shellfish, 12:26 you can say, well, if God didn't intend for us to eat it, 12:28 why did He make it? And the shellfish 12:31 is a classic example. They've shown this in places 12:33 such as the Chesapeake Bay. When you introduce shellfish, 12:37 they filter the water. They take out the toxins and 12:41 return the good water back into the ecosystem. 12:44 So, thank God that we have them, but imagine when you're eating 12:46 that, you're eating all those toxins. 12:49 DD: And this brings up a whole other point: many transmittable 12:52 diseases are traced to these unclean foods. 12:55 You mentioned pork earlier; you mentioned shellfish. 12:58 Pork is a classic example. Our Centers for Disease Control 13:01 in the United States speak about neglected parasitic 13:05 diseases that are not on the radar screen. 13:07 One of them is cysticercosis. It actually comes 13:11 from the pork tapeworm. And this can cause 13:14 serious illness. It's actually-- John, 13:17 this may be surprising to you-- one of the leading causes, 13:20 if not the leading cause, of epilepsy worldwide, 13:24 is from the pork tapeworm. Something called 13:26 neurocysticercosis. Cysts that actually invade the 13:31 brain and are a leading cause of seizure worldwide. 13:34 As I read through the Bible, I find it fascinating that when 13:37 Jesus was resurrected, in Luke 24, 13:40 we read those stories of Jesus' encounter with the disciples. 13:43 Or on the Emmaus Road. Jesus points them back to the 13:46 Old Testament. Many of my Christian friends 13:49 think the Old Testament is a book that's just to be 13:51 set aside. Jesus wanted their faith 13:54 anchored in the Old Testament. Now, he was especially 13:57 referring to the prophecies that spoke of Him. 14:00 But what's interesting to me as a physician is-- I don't know of 14:03 any example where God gave a ceremonial law that didn't have 14:10 some significant health connections that persist today. 14:14 Well, we're speaking about these so-called ceremonial health 14:16 laws. In other words, 14:18 God didn't tell them to avoid unclean foods just 14:21 to each some spiritual lesson; there was sound health 14:24 information there. We could talk about 14:26 circumcision, or how the Jews were able to be clean after 14:30 contact with death. All of these things have 14:32 valid health principles. But you don't have to sacrifice 14:35 a red heifer today. Do you see my point? 14:38 JB: Absolutely, but bring them back to this, because someone's 14:41 saying, "Oh, look, this is well and good, but those guys are off 14:42 base, because that was just a ceremony, and when Jesus died, 14:48 none of that mattered anymore." DD: Let me go to this example. 14:52 Maybe we should turn in our Bibles to it. 14:54 I'm turning to the book of Numbers. 14:56 It's a fascinating example. I'm going to Numbers chapter 19, 15:01 and in Numbers 19 we read these laws of purification. 15:06 This is the "red heifer sacrifice." 15:11 Any Christian who's studied this realizes that the red heifer was 15:14 symbolizing Jesus. He was the sinless one 15:17 who was killed outside the camp. Today, you and I, as Christians, 15:22 don't need to sacrifice a red heifer. 15:24 Jesus IS our all-sufficient sacrifice. 15:29 JB: Right. DD: But if you read through 15:30 Numbers 19, you find that embedded in that red heifer 15:34 sacrifice and its aftermath were restrictions and laws for 15:39 scrupulous cleanliness after contact with death. 15:44 Because the Christian world set that aside for decades and 15:47 centuries, we had in the 1800s, in Europe, for example, 15:52 epidemics of childbirth fever. Ignaz Semmelweis, the famous 15:57 Austrian physician who brought this to the fore, he realized 16:02 that women were dying. One in six women or more were 16:06 dying in childbirth, in the main hospital there in Vienna, 16:09 because doctors would examine the dead women and then they'd 16:12 go and examine the living women. They were transmitting disease. 16:16 If they'd followed the principles of Numbers 19, 16:19 this would never have happened. JB: Important principles 16:22 because, after all, you are what you eat. 16:27 And, if we made simple, small changes in the area of what we 16:31 eat, we would see big results in our physical health and 16:36 certainly in our spiritual health as well. 16:39 Now, in just a moment, I'm going to tell you what this is. 16:44 And you will be amazed, when you discover 16:48 just what you're eating. 16:51 Back with more, straight ahead. 16:59 [Musical Segue] 17:03 Fasting. It's a very biblical concept, 17:07 but it's also very misunderstood. 17:10 Jesus fasted, we know that. But does He want people 17:14 to fast today? And what does God intend 17:17 that fasting should be? And, how can it benefit you? 17:21 I'd like to send you a book from our Healing Insights series, 17:24 called "Fasting and Prayer." 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Our toll-free number is 18:18 (800) 253-3000, and we're online at 18:22 ItIsWritten.com. 18:25 JB: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written. 18:27 You know that it is said so often that you are what you eat, 18:31 and if that's the case, then we are sick because we're eating 18:34 food that makes us sick. Dr. David DeRose 18:37 is joining me today. I want to ask you, Dr. DeRose, 18:41 where are the problems? What are the problem areas 18:44 in what we eat? DD: Well, if we want to speak 18:46 physiologically, one of the big ones is fat. 18:50 And the reason I say physiologically is your cell 18:53 membrane is made up of fat, among other things. 18:57 The type of fat you eat will affect how fluid 19:01 that membrane is. You say, well, 19:03 what difference does that make? It's because the cell membrane 19:06 is where the action takes place. In your brain, 19:09 the neurotransmitters, the brain chemicals, 19:12 interact with other membranes. What happens is, 19:16 if you're eating more of the saturated fats, 19:19 more of the trans fats, these two categories of fats, 19:23 they make the cell membranes more rigid and make nerve 19:27 transmission more difficult. They make insulin signaling 19:30 worse, and so they lay the foundation for diabetes. 19:34 So it's not just a question of amount of fat, 19:36 but what kind of fat. Those saturated fats primarily 19:39 in animal products; trans fats in those partially 19:42 hydrogenated vegetable oils. JB: Good fats, avocado; 19:46 good fats in nuts. Those are good fats, right? 19:48 DD: Very interesting. Back in the '90s, people were 19:51 lumping all these together. They were saying nuts 19:54 were bad for you. At least many people in the 19:56 preventive medicine community. But then in the '90s is when 20:00 researchers at Loma Linda University came out with some of 20:03 the early studies showing that nuts had powerful, 20:06 heart-preventive properties, and that started to swing the 20:10 pendulum in the other direction. JB: But the bad fats 20:12 are no good. I want to show you something 20:13 when it comes to fat. Each time you eat that 20:16 well-known burger from that well-known burger chain, 20:20 you're getting that much fat. Dr. DeRose, what does 20:23 the body do with this much fat? DD: That's saturated fat, 20:26 largely saturated. That animal fat. 20:29 JB: Right. DD: What happens is, 20:30 first of all the blood becomes what we call lipemic. 20:32 When you eat that fat, it goes into the blood stream 20:35 and that actually affects the fluidity of the blood. 20:38 But then it has that impact, that long-term impact, 20:41 on the cell membranes, and actually it's setting 20:44 the stage for many of the diseases that we 20:46 experience today. JB: But this is how much 20:48 fat there is in a candy bar. Take a look at this, 20:50 typical candy bar. A small one. 20:53 And this is how much fat there is in a reasonably 20:56 small bag of potato chips. DD: We've cultivated, 20:59 as a society, a desire for higher saturated fat. 21:04 Higher sugar. Higher salt. 21:06 With the research shows us though-- 21:08 let's talk about fat-- as you get away from 21:11 that high fat consumption, your tastes change. 21:15 Big study, interventional study in women with cancer. 21:18 Breast cancer. Decreasing their fat 21:20 consumption-- when they did the pilot study, over the course of 21:22 the year, they found the women that cut their fat dramatically, 21:26 they tended to develop a distaste for the high fat foods 21:31 that they used to enjoy. JB: And this is how much sugar 21:33 there is, in a can of soda. Ah! 21:37 Stop and think. I mean, I wouldn't take 21:40 the top off this and chug this much raw sugar, ever. 21:43 You just wouldn't do it. But you do 21:45 when you buy a can of soda and pour that down your throat. 21:48 DD: And the data really suggests this is one of the things, 21:50 the sugar-sweetened beverages, that are fueling the epidemic 21:54 of obesity our country, John. JB: This is how much there is in 21:57 a cup of ice cream. That's a lot of sugar. 21:59 DD: And you add the fat to that equation, in those foods. 22:01 And many of those same foods that are high in fat and high in 22:04 sugar often are high in salt. Did you know, for example, 22:07 that you can put a lot more salt in a food if it's got 22:10 a lot of sugar in it, and not even taste salty? 22:13 JB: Okay, you'd better go off the ice cream and onto the 22:15 brownies, because, whereas this was as much sugar in a cup of 22:20 ice cream, the one on this end here is as much sugar 22:24 as there is in a brownie. A two-inch-square brownie. 22:27 DD: And who sticks with a two-inch-square brownie? 22:29 JB: Oh, no, it's not good until you've had two or three. 22:31 And when it comes to sugars, you can find in some food products 22:34 2-3-4-5 different sugars, right? There'll be sugar, corn syrup, 22:38 high fructose corn syrup, any number of other sweeteners 22:42 that are in one food item. DD: And the reason why some 22:44 manufacturers apparently do this is you have to list ingredients 22:48 in order of their prevalence in the product. 22:51 So, even though sugar in its various forms may be the 22:56 top ingredient, if you put five different sweeteners in there, 23:00 you may be able to put the whole wheat first, even though it's 23:02 only 10 percent whole wheat and 40 percent sugar. 23:05 JB: Now, are there any sugars that are really pretty good 23:07 for you? Because there's debates about 23:09 high fructose corn syrup, and you read "cane sugar" or "dried 23:15 cane sugar" or whatever. Can I look at that and go, oh, 23:18 it's got that sugar; that's good for me? 23:19 DD: The sweet things we were designed to enjoy are the 23:22 fruits, the sweet vegetables, things of this nature. 23:25 If you're getting those whole foods in nature, 23:28 you can have those things satisfy the sweet tooth. 23:31 No, it's not going to taste like the brownie or the ice 23:33 cream-- not at first. But if you stick with eating 23:36 those healthy sweets that God provided, in Genesis 1, 23:40 you will find a distaste tends to develop for those 23:44 artificially sweetened things. Whether it's "natural sugar" 23:47 that's being used to sweeten it or some artificial sweetener. 23:51 JB: Man, if you get some of those good dates, those medjool 23:54 dates they grow in Indio, California, around there. 23:58 Oh, they're sweet and they're good. 24:01 DD: In moderation, of course. JB: In moderation. 24:03 Some Americans are eating this much salt. 24:07 Two and a half teaspoons of salt in a day. 24:10 Many. It is said that the average 24:13 American is consuming maybe about this much. 24:16 Maybe about this much. DD: One and a half teaspoons. 24:19 JB: Whereas, what we should be consuming is merely this much. 24:25 A teaspoon of salt a day, and no more. 24:28 DD: No. And actually, although people 24:30 have tried to downplay the relationship between salt and 24:33 disease, a major study in the New England Journal of Medicine 24:36 back in 2010 actually looked at all the data, and how many 24:40 people in America are dying because of just having a 24:44 half-teaspoon of salt more a day. 24:47 In other words, if we were to decrease-- all of us, 24:49 across the board-- decrease our sodium 24:52 consumption, salt consumption, by just half a teaspoon, 24:55 we would save tens of thousands of lives from things like 24:58 stroke and heart attack. JB: From a biblical point of 25:01 view, why we're driving at this is because Jesus wants us to 25:03 have a more abundant life. And you say to yourself, 25:06 well, yeah, I'm drinking three sodas a day. 25:10 And I know people who carry around the Big Gulp things. 25:14 They carry them with them, everywhere they go. 25:16 I don't know how much they're getting-- 25:17 it's got to be killing them. Or you say, well, yeah, I'm 25:20 eating lots of ice cream and all of that sugar that comes with 25:23 it, and I'm getting the brownies and whatever. 25:26 What you're advocating, when you say 25:28 decreasing the amount of salt, you're not saying eat no salt, 25:32 eat no sweet stuff; eat zero fat. 25:36 Just make a little change here. Eat moderate amounts. 25:40 Get more of the good and less of the bad, and perhaps start the 25:44 change incrementally. I mean, it would be ideal for 25:46 somebody to go cold turkey, off the bad and onto the good. 25:49 It doesn't always work that way for people. 25:51 But small changes can bring big results. 25:54 DD: They can be powerful, and yet, the most powerful 25:57 things to actually reeducate your taste are larger changes. 26:01 JB: There is hope for you. And for me. 26:04 And I'm glad, because Jesus not only wants to give us the more 26:08 abundant life, but it is through Jesus-- 26:11 through the power of the Holy Spirit-- 26:12 that we can get from where we are, if perhaps 26:14 we're living an unhealthy life. And with the power of God we 26:18 can put down some of the stuff that's simply killing us, and 26:21 take up the sorts of things that will enhance our lives, 26:24 increase our lifespan, and give us a more productive, 26:28 quality life while we're living here on this earth. 26:31 Our time here on this earth is so short, we ought to be making 26:34 the best of it, not ruining it. DD: Most definitely. 26:37 JB: Our time on this program is short, too, Dr. DeRose. 26:39 Thanks for joining me today. This has been a blessing. 26:41 DD: It's always good to be with you. 26:42 JB: And thank you for joining me. 26:43 I want you to be encouraged today. 26:46 Why did Jesus come? So that we might live. 26:49 How does He want us to live? A more abundant life. 26:52 That's what He offers you today. Why don't we pray together? 26:55 Ask God for that life, and thank Him for it as well. 26:59 Let's pray. ♪ [Gentle Music] ♪ 27:01 Our Father in heaven, we are grateful that Your thoughts 27:04 toward us are for good. We are thankful 27:07 that it's through Jesus, through Your power, 27:10 with Your help, that we can have a more abundant life. 27:14 I am thankful today that with your help we can be the sorts of 27:18 people you want us to be, and live the kind of life 27:21 you want us to live. Lord, where we need help, 27:24 give us that help; where we simply cannot do 27:27 in us what You want to see done. 27:30 We thank You today and we praise You, and we claim the more 27:33 abundant life in Jesus. And we pray in Jesus' name. 27:37 Amen. DD: Amen. 27:40 ♪ [Music rings out] ♪ 27:50 JB: I'm so glad you've joined me today, 27:52 and I look forward to seeing you again next time. 27:53 Until then, remember: It is written, 27:56 man shall not live by bread alone, 27:58 but by every word that proceeds 28:01 from the mouth of God. ♪ [It Is Written Theme] ♪ |
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