It Is Written

The Physiology of Worship

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01:30 ♪[Theme music]♪
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01:49 >>John Bradshaw: This is It Is Written. I'm John Bradshaw.
01:52 Thanks for joining me.
01:54 Go to the Bible and you find that the Word of God
01:56 says a lot about worship,
01:58 unsurprisingly, as the Bible is God's book.
02:02 But look in the book of Psalms and you find God appealing to us
02:05 and saying some, some impressive things.
02:08 Look with me at Psalm 96 and verse 9:
02:11 “O worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness:
02:14 fear before Him, all the earth.”
02:17 And in Psalm 95 and verse 6, the Bible says,
02:19 “O come, let us worship and bow down:
02:22 let us kneel before the Lord our Maker.”
02:25 And so you might think,
02:26 well, yes, of course,
02:28 worship it's the underpinning of our relationship with God.
02:30 It speaks of the way we relate to God as Sovereign,
02:33 as Creator, as Majesty.
02:36 But let's go a little bit further.
02:38 Is worship good for you?
02:40 How does the practice of worship actually affect your life?
02:45 Here to discuss with me the physiology of worship
02:48 is cardiologist Dr. James Marcum,
02:50 who practices with the Chattanooga Heart Institute.
02:53 Dr. Marcum, thanks for joining me.
02:54 >>Dr. Marcum: My pleasure, John.
02:56 And this excites me more than anything else,
02:58 because when a patient comes in
03:00 and has a lot of medical problems,
03:03 sometimes they're on lots of pills.
03:05 And these pills have side effects,
03:07 and they cost money.
03:08 But when you start talking about things that they can do
03:11 to help improve their body,
03:12 both short term and for eternity,
03:16 and you bring up worship, they,
03:18 they sort of shake their heads at first.
03:20 They say, “No, how can that help me?”
03:21 >>John: So, so that's the question.
03:23 How can worship, you're saying, actually benefit your health?
03:27 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes, worship is actually a prescription.
03:31 And I have to show the evidence behind it,
03:33 and they have to start doing it.
03:35 But now we have studies that others have done,
03:38 even our ministries working on studies that show
03:40 how people that worship the true God
03:42 have physiologic benefits on our own genetics.
03:46 >>John: So how does that work?
03:47 What you're saying is, this is a pretty big statement,
03:51 that worship affects one's genes.
03:55 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes. That's what we're saying.
03:56 >>John: You're saying that.
03:57 >>Dr. Marcum: And if you go back a few years ago,
03:58 we haven't always been able to say this.
04:00 We didn't have the technology.
04:03 But a few years ago, um, Francis Collins,
04:05 who's now at the National Institute of Health,
04:08 he sequenced our DNA.
04:10 >>John: Sure.
04:11 >>Dr. Marcum: Now, what that means is he looked at the DNA,
04:12 and he wrote a book called “The Language of God.”
04:16 He thought this DNA was the language of God,
04:18 because this is how we express ourselves.
04:21 Um, this is how we turn things on and off.
04:23 And if you think of the DNA like a hardware of a computer,
04:28 you know, this is what we're born with.
04:30 And unfortunately, each one of us, me included,
04:33 is born with bad genes.
04:34 >>John: Sure.
04:35 >>Dr. Marcum: We have bad genes.
04:36 And these have been passed down.
04:37 And sooner or later, different things that we do to these genes
04:41 causes them to malfunction or mutate.
04:44 In fact, we have telomeres that sometimes get shorter,
04:47 and they damage our DNA.
04:48 When our DNA is damaged, guess what happens.
04:52 A mutation happens.
04:53 Then we have a malfunction.
04:55 And sooner or later, if enough of these happen,
04:57 we have a symptom.
04:59 And modern medicine reaches to treat the symptoms,
05:02 and we do that very effectively sometimes,
05:04 but we don't get at the cause of our bad genes.
05:07 >>John: So explain to me, explain to us, what's in DNA?
05:13 Deoxyribonucleic acid.
05:15 We know that.
05:16 But what is it, and how does your DNA
05:18 express itself or affect one's day-to-day life?
05:21 >>Dr. Marcum: Yeah.
05:22 >>John: I know many people are saying,
05:23 “I know that already, John.” But for those who don't.
05:25 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, this is the core of who we are.
05:28 It's our template.
05:29 It decides everything.
05:30 For instance, when we're talking here,
05:32 the DNA is actually making proteins,
05:35 messenger RNA,
05:36 different things that is affecting enzyme systems,
05:39 that's affecting the way you think,
05:40 the way you move, what makes your heart beating.
05:42 The DNA is at the core of everything.
05:45 So when something malfunctions
05:47 at the very core molecular basis, we look at DNA.
05:51 >>John: So tell me now.
05:52 Somebody has a malfunction at the DNA level,
05:55 how might that be expressed?
05:56 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, it's according.
05:57 Some people are born with bad genes,
06:00 and we have, um, genetic diseases.
06:02 Um, and we see that quite a bit, you know,
06:04 um Tay-Sachs disease and different disease
06:06 that's passed down from generation to generations.
06:09 Those are genes that have been affected that we can't
06:12 do anything about.
06:13 Now, sometimes gene mutations
06:15 are because of the different things we do.
06:17 Let's say you smoke a lot and you have a genetic defect
06:21 that predisposes you to cancer, and you smoke.
06:24 Well, that puts stress on those genes,
06:25 and those genes might malfunction sooner.
06:28 >>John: And the result might be cancer,
06:30 lung cancer.
06:31 >>Dr. Marcum: That's correct.
06:32 For instance, let's say everyone in the Bradshaw family
06:35 became hard of hearing at age 60. Ok.
06:38 >>John: What was that?
06:39 >>Dr. Marcum: Uh, yeah [laughs].
06:40 Became hard of hearing at age 60.
06:42 And I yelled in your ear every single day.
06:44 I'm yelling and screaming in your ear every day.
06:47 Well, that puts stress on those genes,
06:49 which is the stress of the epigenetics,
06:51 the things that influences your hardware,
06:53 the software, and those genes might wear out sooner.
06:57 So you might have problems at a younger age
06:59 because we put stress on those genes.
07:02 Well, that can happen anywhere in our body.
07:05 If we have a genetic defect, we all do,
07:07 and we put stress on those genes,
07:09 whether it be from smoking or not sleeping well,
07:12 or yelling, or whatever, those genes might malfunction earlier,
07:16 and guess what.
07:17 We have a mutation, it leads to aging and disease processes.
07:21 Because these genes tell our bodies what to do.
07:24 Everything that we do is influenced by these genes.
07:27 >>John: So we can understand the genetic code, our DNA,
07:30 as a little bit like the program that makes the computer run,
07:33 and we all know if you get a glitch in the program,
07:35 then it's just not gonna work,
07:38 and eventually things crash.
07:40 >>Dr. Marcum: Exactly.
07:41 >>John: So it's like that.
07:42 >>Dr. Marcum: That's exactly right.
07:43 >>John: So we can, what?
07:45 >>Dr. Marcum: Influence.
07:46 >>John: We can influence, we can influence?
07:47 >>Dr. Marcum: We can influence our hardware
07:49 by these software, these things that we do.
07:52 >>John: Okay.
07:53 >>Dr. Marcum: Um, for instance, if you,
07:54 if you don't smoke,
07:55 that helps those genes that might have cancer in them.
07:58 >>John: Okay.
07:59 >>Dr. Marcum: Um, if we do other things that might keep
08:00 the genes from getting older quicker.
08:02 And that might be good nutrition,
08:04 or even drinking water, or getting enough rest.
08:06 Well, we're now understanding that worship
08:09 affects epigenetics, what affects our genes.
08:12 Keeps us from getting older.
08:14 There's now some data on this that shows that worship,
08:17 when we worship God,
08:19 when we worship the best we can,
08:20 that affects our genes.
08:22 And when we don't worship, that tends,
08:25 can put stress on our body.
08:27 You know, we look for something to worship.
08:29 If we worship the wrong things, it puts stress on us as well.
08:32 >>John: So, so we have a genetic makeup.
08:35 >>Dr. Marcum: Um-hmm.
08:36 >>John: It might be that your genes are gonna flip out
08:38 in this way, that way, malfunction, mutate.
08:40 However, there are things that you can do to aid your genes,
08:46 the genetic code,
08:47 to prevent certain things from happening that are negative,
08:51 or the cause positive things to happen that are positive.
08:53 So you can influence your own health
08:56 at the very deepest level.
08:58 And what you're saying is that worship actually has
09:02 a measurable, material impact on one's genes.
09:06 >>John: That's correct.
09:07 And we're just now beginning,
09:08 in some of the science that's been done, to look at this.
09:11 One of the original studies by Dr. Newberg
09:14 at the University of Pennsylvania,
09:16 he looked at people's brains,
09:18 and he had people just worship for a short period of time,
09:21 and he saw that their brain, the prefrontal cortex,
09:24 the part that we have that separates us from animals,
09:27 actually got bigger.
09:28 The anterior cingulate cortex part of the brain
09:31 grew and got bigger just from worship.
09:33 And he also found out that when people worship
09:36 for short periods of time, the stress part of the brain,
09:39 the part we share with animals, the part that damages us,
09:42 you know, we don't like these chronic stress,
09:44 the part that just says, I want to stay alive and live,
09:46 that turns on the chemicals like adrenaline,
09:49 cortisol, inflammation that causes these epigenetic problems
09:53 that causes us to age and the DNA to get worse,
09:56 those were turned down in people that worship.
09:59 So he did that study, but studies have been,
10:01 even done further says, well, that's,
10:04 we see a structural change,
10:05 but what's happening in the molecules, the very DNA.
10:09 And now we have some studies, you know,
10:11 back at [Dusek], at Harvard, Benson's Lab,
10:14 they looked at different things that people do to relax,
10:17 and people that relax, repetitive prayer.
10:20 They've looked at people with yoga,
10:22 those type of things, including worship.
10:25 Those things turn on and off genes.
10:28 And when those genes, the stress genes are turned off,
10:31 people do better.
10:32 They, if you think about it, when stresses turn off,
10:35 every chronic disease will improve.
10:37 Slows down aging, slows down inflammation,
10:40 lowers blood pressure, improves immune systems.
10:43 So now, what I'm trying to, to do right now is,
10:47 well, they've looked at different types of worship.
10:49 You know, there's many different types of worship.
10:51 There's yoga, there's medication,
10:53 there's repetitive prayer,
10:54 there's different types of worship.
10:56 Well, what would these genes look like
10:58 if we do biblical worship.
11:00 Ten minutes of biblical worship.
11:02 Let's look at the genes.
11:03 And wouldn't it be great,
11:04 we're working on publishing a study that says
11:06 when someone participates in biblical worship,
11:09 this lowers the risk of chronic disease,
11:11 slows down aging, lowers the risk of heart attack,
11:14 infections, diabetes, hypertension,
11:16 all of these things.
11:17 Well, we have the preliminary workup that says
11:20 we know what the answer's gonna to be.
11:21 Now we have to do the study.
11:23 >>John: Fascinating.
11:24 Worship, good for you.
11:26 Worship, good for your genes.
11:29 Worship, able to influence your health
11:31 in a measurable and material way.
11:33 You want to know more about this.
11:34 We'll be back with more in just a moment.
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12:47 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written,
12:49 where my special guest is Dr. James Marcum,
12:51 a cardiologist and the leader of Heartwise Ministries,
12:55 committed to helping you and me both
12:58 see the great connection there is between our physical
13:00 and our mental health and how we can live life
13:03 to the very fullest.
13:05 In Revelation, chapter 14,
13:07 you read about three angels flying in the midst of heaven,
13:11 with messages for everybody on planet Earth.
13:15 And the first angel says,
13:17 “Fear God, and give glory to Him;
13:19 for the hour of His judgment is come:
13:22 and worship Him that made heaven, and earth,
13:25 and the sea, and the fountains of waters.”
13:27 There is a call to worship in the final gospel message
13:30 that goes to the world.
13:32 Now, Dr. Marcum, we're talking about how worship
13:35 is actually good for a person.
13:36 Here's my question for you:
13:38 You might even mention relaxation and other things
13:42 that researchers have found positively impact your health.
13:45 So, is the worship of God just the Christian spin on this,
13:49 or is there something different and unique about worshipping God
13:53 over even these other things you might say:
13:55 relaxation, breathing exercises, and so forth?
13:58 What's unique about the worship of God?
14:01 >>Dr. Marcum: That is an excellent question.
14:02 That's why we need more research on this specifically.
14:06 You know, ‘cause we know what the results are going to be.
14:09 We know that as we worship the true God,
14:12 biblical worship, um,
14:13 we are going to have more positive changes
14:16 than we would doing anything else.
14:18 Okay?
14:19 The other studies have shown all sorts of things that imply this,
14:22 but now we really have to have the biblical worship study
14:25 looking at people's DNA directly.
14:28 Um, we have some indirect studies by Newberg,
14:31 so as our brain gets larger when we worship God.
14:35 But he decided what worship looked like.
14:37 But that's a great question.
14:39 What does worship look like in this end stage?
14:42 You know, what does worship look like?
14:44 Some people might worship by studying the Word,
14:47 by praying.
14:48 Some people might worship by serving others,
14:51 by praising, by thanking.
14:53 There's many ways of worship,
14:55 including living a life of worship.
14:57 So, but now we have the technology,
14:59 John, to do these studies to show,
15:02 you know, well,
15:03 worship for you might look like this on your DNA.
15:06 But worship like this might help your DNA even more.
15:10 You know, when you serve, you get this type of benefit,
15:12 health benefit.
15:13 But when you serve, pray and study the Word,
15:17 you might get this type of benefit.
15:19 We're now starting to have the technology to show
15:22 those type of physiologic changes.
15:23 >>John: So worship is measurably good for a person,
15:26 which means that those who do not live a life of worship,
15:29 people who are choosing to live disconnected from God,
15:32 are missing out not only spiritually,
15:34 but physically, and therefore spiritually as well,
15:38 as one impacts the other.
15:39 So a patient comes to you, and you suggest to the patient,
15:42 okay, we're going to walk down this road.
15:45 How would look in practice in a person's life?
15:47 They come to your practice; they speak to you; you maybe,
15:50 the conversation takes on this bent.
15:53 How does that play out in someone's life?
15:54 >>Dr. Marcum: Well, you know, I would,
15:56 I would start by giving them evidence.
15:58 I said, “Listen, you know, you don't feel so good.
16:00 You had a bypass surgery, you know.
16:02 Things were bad.
16:03 But you've done all of these things.”
16:05 But they always say,
16:06 “Well, you know, I have a hard time giving up this.”
16:10 >>John: Sure.
16:11 >>Dr. Marcum: You know, “I have a hard time walking every day.
16:12 I have a hard time eating right.
16:13 I have a hard time thinking right.
16:14 All these stressors that are turning on these bad genes,
16:18 I'm having problems with.”
16:19 I said, “Well, you know,
16:21 I have problems with that myself, you know.
16:23 Would you like to, to hear about a way scientifically proven
16:27 that we can help our genes and help give us the power,
16:30 one step at a time, to, to do better?”
16:33 I said, “Well,” I said, “ask Christ to come into your life.
16:37 Ask Him to give you the power.”
16:38 And I point them back to Matthew 11:28,
16:41 “Come unto me, worship me, and I will give you rest.”
16:46 Would you like that gift today?
16:48 Is there any reason you can't enter into
16:50 a relationship worship?
16:51 Because that's how our genes were designed to be.
16:54 >>John: Um-hmm.
16:55 >>Dr. Marcum: And as we get back to our original template,
16:57 everything works better.
16:58 Aging slows down.
17:00 It also, but more importantly,
17:02 it gives us the power to make these changes.
17:04 And I give them examples of patients,
17:06 and I said, “Listen, we're working on studies
17:08 to prove this at higher levels.
17:09 But why don't you just ask Christ into your life today,
17:12 give you the power to do one thing.
17:14 What would that be?
17:16 And come into a worshipful state.”
17:17 And I give them a short prayer and a short worship study.
17:20 If they've never worked before, I said,
17:22 “Here's 10 minutes of what worship looks like.
17:24 Would you be willing to do that every day?”
17:27 And so, “Oh, yeah, I'll give that a try.”
17:28 And I said, “In addition, let's pick one thing that's stressing
17:32 your life out, that's hurting your genes,
17:34 that we can make a change on.”
17:36 And it might be something simple like drinking water,
17:39 or resting, or not losing your temper.
17:41 Or it might be eating better or giving up cigarettes.
17:44 Just one thing.
17:45 And when they do this, when they actually have that power,
17:49 God enters their life,
17:50 so when they're in this state of worship,
17:52 the Holy Spirit comes and is working on this.
17:54 Goes into the hippocampus part of the brain.
17:56 So it's working all day long in them.
17:58 So they have to decide what they want to do with this worship.
18:01 So this worship starts in the morning,
18:03 and it goes all day long,
18:04 so it's sort of living in a state of worship.
18:07 And then they start giving power, and they notice,
18:09 “You know what?
18:10 I did, I was able to do this.”
18:12 And then they feel God coming
18:13 into their life, leading them more and more.
18:15 And as they do this, they get very excited.
18:17 And then we move to the next thing.
18:19 Well, would you like to do this?
18:20 Would you like to do that?
18:21 And they start making these powerful changes.
18:23 And as God influences their life,
18:25 gives them the power to make changes,
18:27 they're doing things out of love and not out of obligation.
18:30 They're doing things for the right reasons.
18:32 >>John: You know, it's, I think it's important for us
18:34 to point this out:
18:35 we're not suggesting, if you're sick,
18:37 just worship God and you'll get well.
18:39 This isn't the new wonder drug, the wonder drug of worship.
18:41 But what you're saying is when the heart,
18:44 the mind, is focused on God and connected to God,
18:47 this measurably benefits a person.
18:49 Can people achieve the same physiological results
18:55 without God?
18:56 I'll just relax.
18:58 I shall take walks on the beach.
19:01 Clearly those...
19:02 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes, yes, yes.
19:02 >>John: ...things are good for you,
19:04 but can you, can you say, I like this thought,
19:07 it sure makes sense.
19:08 I get my mind in a good place.
19:11 I prevent these stressors from really getting at me.
19:15 So instead of worship,
19:17 I'll do an end run around this by doing A, B, C and D.
19:20 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes.
19:21 >>John: Possible, or not possible?
19:22 >>Dr. Marcum: To some degree,
19:23 that might help you in the short term.
19:25 >>John: Sure.
19:27 >>Dr. Marcum: Might help you in the short term.
19:28 But remember, we all have bad genes.
19:31 We all need a Savior, ultimately.
19:34 So I explain to them,
19:35 those things might help in the short term,
19:36 but are they an ultimate solution to our chronic disease?
19:41 No.
19:42 >>John: Worship.
19:43 Good for you.
19:43 Good for your body.
19:44 Good for your mind.
19:45 Worship affecting you on a genetic level.
19:49 See, there's a reason Mom and Dad took you to church,
19:51 encouraged you to pray, introduced you to God.
19:54 Another reason, and that is that faith in God,
19:58 worshiping God, a relationship with God,
20:01 affects you in ways that you might
20:04 not have even thought possible.
20:05 Now, in just a moment,
20:07 a case study of someone who put this to practice in his life,
20:10 and the benefits were just fantastic.
20:13 More in just a moment.
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21:25 >>John: Thanks for joining me today on It Is Written.
21:27 I'm John Bradshaw.
21:28 My guest is cardiologist Dr. James Marcum,
21:31 who practices in Chattanooga, Tennessee
21:33 and leads Heartwise Ministries.
21:36 Dr. Marcum, we're talking about something fascinating.
21:39 I think, I think huge for people
21:42 who've never contemplated this,
21:43 and that is that worship measurably,
21:45 materially affects somebody for the good on a genetic level.
21:49 Now, here's my question:
21:50 Grandma worshipped God all her life,
21:53 fervently and faithfully, and died at 53 of cancer.
21:57 Somebody's uncle worshiped God, served God,
22:00 missionary, minister, whatever it might be,
22:02 and loved God, died young from a lifestyle disease.
22:05 So, put those two thoughts together.
22:07 Worship's good for you, but people who worship die young.
22:11 Why?
22:12 >>Dr. Marcum: Yeah.
22:13 And we alluded to this earlier.
22:15 We all come to the plate with bad genes.
22:18 We have bad genes.
22:20 We have, from head to toe, we have bad genes.
22:22 The way we think, the way we metabolize,
22:25 is determined a lot by our ancestors.
22:27 And we have no control over our hardware.
22:30 It's there in us.
22:32 And for people that have these, these issues,
22:36 what I tell them is, you know, look,
22:37 look at the New Testament.
22:39 You know, Christ healed 24, 25 people.
22:41 Sometimes people He raised from the dead.
22:43 He healed them.
22:45 And yet they all died.
22:47 >>John: Sure.
22:47 >>Dr. Marcum: They all died.
22:49 So, but, He, sometimes He walked by people that needed healing,
22:53 because He wanted to preach the gospel.
22:56 He wanted to come into their heart through worship.
22:59 Because there was something even more that transcended
23:01 our bad genetics, when we do that.
23:04 And I tell people, it's not only about today.
23:06 It's about forever.
23:08 >>John: So we wouldn't suggest anybody...
23:10 >>Dr. Marcum: No.
23:11 >>John: I think we spoke about this earlier,
23:12 but I do need to just, reiterate.
23:15 No one is suggesting, if you're unwell,
23:18 worship and you'll miraculously be well.
23:20 Though that may happen.
23:22 But I believe what science is now telling us,
23:24 Dr. Marcum, is no matter what your state,
23:27 worship and you'll do better.
23:28 >>Dr. Marcum: Yes.
23:29 >>John: And sometimes dramatically better.
23:32 Now, can you share with me any case studies,
23:34 somebody you know implemented this into his or her life,
23:37 and now we've got something to demonstrate,
23:40 this really positively affects you?
23:42 >>Dr. Marcum: I had a patient that came to me
23:43 from Wall Street.
23:45 He was in his forties.
23:46 He had significant coronary disease,
23:48 already had a bypass surgery.
23:51 All of the arteries were too small to do anything more.
23:55 Every time he would walk, in his forties,
23:56 he would have chest tightness.
23:58 >>John: This is not good.
23:59 >>Dr. Marcum: No, and he'd gone to all the specialists,
24:01 and he was on all the right medicines,
24:03 all the right pills.
24:04 But he was still having symptoms.
24:05 So he came, and we went through this discussion,
24:08 and he says, “You know, I work on Wall Street.
24:10 I don't think I can rest more.
24:11 I don't think I can eat better.
24:13 I don't think I can do any of this better.”
24:15 And I said, “Well, John,” I'm using a pseudo name.
24:19 >>John: Sure.
24:20 >>Dr. Marcum: I said, I said,
24:21 “Listen, our, have you heard of worship?”
24:23 He said, “No, I haven't heard of that.”
24:24 I said, “Do you believe in God?”
24:26 He said, “I don't believe in God.”
24:28 I said, “Well, let me introduce a new concept to you.
24:31 Let me give you some information.
24:33 You know, go looking for Him, and see if,
24:34 see if you can, can find Him.
24:36 He'll hunt for you.
24:38 There's science, evidence, that there is God. It's not.”
24:41 So I gave him some information.
24:43 He started reading and studying.
24:44 And he started worshiping.
24:46 I said, “Well, listen, let's just pick one thing,
24:48 and let's just worship for 10 minutes a day.
24:51 Let's start there.”
24:52 And he started there.
24:53 He wasn't with a denomination, but he came to the God.
24:55 He asked Lord to be Lord of his life,
24:57 Savior, to come into his heart, to teach him.
25:00 He started reading the Bible text,
25:02 and God started moving in him.
25:04 And all of a sudden He gave him power to do things.
25:06 And he was working to midnight every night.
25:09 Well, he realized he couldn't do this every day.
25:11 So he started quitting work earlier.
25:13 God gave him the power to do that.
25:16 All of a sudden, he was able to walk a little bit more.
25:18 He learned about eating better, and guess what?
25:21 He started eating more plants
25:23 and less of some of the bad foods.
25:24 He was able to give up cigarettes.
25:27 And God kept changing his heart
25:28 one step at a time as he worshiped with Him.
25:31 So not only was the worship helping his,
25:34 some of his epigenetics, slowing down the aging,
25:36 those stress genes,
25:37 but the worship was also helping him give power
25:40 to overcome other things that was affecting his genes.
25:43 And he knew that he had bad genes to begin with,
25:46 and sooner or later he was going to wear out,
25:48 but he didn't want to wear out so soon.
25:50 >>John: Right.
25:51 >>Dr. Marcum: So by worship,
25:52 not only he accomplished something short term,
25:54 but he also was accomplishing stuff eternally.
25:57 And when he realized that healing
25:59 was more than just the life he lives now,
26:01 it involved forever,
26:03 a forever relationship with his Creator,
26:05 when these doors started opening up,
26:07 he saw the importance.
26:08 Now, he's doing very well.
26:10 He was able in the office not too long ago.
26:12 He's now walking about a mile and a half a day.
26:14 >>John: Fantastic.
26:15 >>Dr. Marcum: In fact, he has changed so much in his life
26:17 now that he's giving up Wall Street,
26:19 and he's going to buy a farm in Montana and live there.
26:23 So God can change us, when we look to Him.
26:26 Our God is powerful.
26:28 And even if we have genetic disease
26:30 that sort of limits our lifespan,
26:32 there's more to it,
26:34 both in the short term and in the long term.
26:36 God has a plan.
26:37 >>John: So there, we have this genetic makeup.
26:40 There are things that we can do to start up bad processes
26:45 in our genes, and things that we can do to stop
26:48 bad processes and to start good processes in our genes.
26:52 Our genes are affected strongly by our actions.
26:55 And worship is one of
26:57 those things that positively affects us at a genetic level.
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28:12 >>John: Let's pray together now.
28:14 Pray with me.
28:15 Our Father in Heaven,
28:17 we are grateful that You are God.
28:21 You demand nothing from us.
28:24 You force nothing on us.
28:27 But You offer us eternity.
28:30 You invite us to know You through Your Son,
28:32 Jesus, to surrender our lives to You,
28:36 and to worship You.
28:37 And I invite You to take,
28:39 take our hearts right now.
28:41 Right now there is somebody who is saying,
28:43 “I need to worship God.
28:45 I must enter into that relationship.
28:48 God, take my heart.”
28:49 Lord, would You do that?
28:51 Take every heart on offer,
28:53 and speak to each one considering You now.
28:58 And urge every man, every woman, every young person,
29:02 to know You as the great God of love
29:03 who reigns eternally and wants us to reign with Him.
29:08 We thank You.
29:09 We love You.
29:11 We worship You.
29:12 We pray in Jesus' name,
29:15 Amen.
29:16 Dr. Marcum, again, thanks, thanks so much.
29:18 >>Dr. Marcum: My pleasure, John.
29:19 >>John: And thank you for joining me.
29:20 I'm looking forward to seeing you again next time.
29:22 Until then, remember:
29:24 “It is written:
29:25 ‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
29:28 but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.'”
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