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He Died for Us

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00:00 (inspirational theme music)
00:13 >>Welcome to "Sabbath School,"
00:14 brought to you by It Is Written.
00:17 We're delighted to have you back again
00:19 for lesson number six.
00:22 We are taking a look this week at "He Died for Us,"
00:25 a very significant subject as we continue our journey
00:28 through the subject of "Death, Dying and the Future Hope."
00:32 Our guest with us again this week is the author
00:34 of the Sabbath school lesson, Dr. Alberto Timm.
00:37 He's an associate director of the Ellen G. White Estate.
00:40 Alberto, welcome back.
00:42 >>It's a honor to be with you during this series.
00:46 >>So we are moving our way through it,
00:48 learning new things each time that we come together.
00:51 And I wanted to make reference
00:55 as we begin this week to something that you describe,
00:59 a story that you tell in the companion book
01:02 to the Sabbath school lesson.
01:03 You talk about a lecture that a Swiss theologian
01:07 by the name of Oscar Cullmann presented
01:10 at Harvard University.
01:11 He was talking about the immortality of the soul
01:14 and the resurrection.
01:16 Can you expound on this story just a little bit?
01:18 Because it's a fascinating story.
01:21 >>Actually, Oscar Cullmann--and I have a copy
01:24 of the book here,
01:26 the book form; they published it in the "Harvard Review"
01:31 and also elsewhere. There are several additions to it,
01:35 but he starts his book in a--or his lecture, at that time--
01:39 and it's the beginning of his book also--
01:42 contrasting the death of Christ
01:46 and Socrates.
01:49 And here you'll find in his view
01:52 probably the best way to understand the contrast
01:56 between Greek philosophy and the anthropology
02:01 of Greek philosophy, how they understand a human being,
02:04 and that is this contrast between the two.
02:09 When Socrates was to be,
02:13 to drink the poison that he did to die,
02:19 he did in a very peaceful
02:22 and serene way, because, for him,
02:26 that was actually a friend to be welcomed
02:30 and not a enemy
02:32 because for the philosophers, including Socrates,
02:36 they thought that the body was just the prison of the soul.
02:42 And he, as a philosopher, would really go to paradise
02:45 or whatever, to a upper stage of life.
02:49 So he drunk it in a very peaceful way
02:52 because that would liberate the soul,
02:56 give the soul freedom to go to that world of the ideas,
03:02 away from the prison of his body.
03:04 But for Jesus, that was not a friend to be welcomed,
03:09 was actually a enemy, the last enemy to be conquered.
03:15 And Jesus, really, in Gethsemane,
03:19 He even said,
03:20 "My soul is exceedingly sorrowful,
03:25 even to [the] death," because He was in agony.
03:29 What a contrast between the two models.
03:32 But in reality, Jesus conquered death,
03:36 and this is the good news that we have.
03:39 But let me just add a point.
03:42 Oscar Cullmann, in his lecture, made it very clear
03:46 that there is no way to harmonize the philosophical,
03:51 the Greek philosophical concept of the immortal soul
03:56 with the New Testament teaching
03:58 of the resurrection of the body.
04:02 Either the soul is immortal,
04:05 and there is no resurrection,
04:07 or there is a bodily resurrection,
04:10 and the soul is not immortal. And from his perspective,
04:14 the New Testament teaches, really, the resurrection
04:18 of the body as the hope for the Christian,
04:22 the Christian hope, and not natural immortality of the soul
04:26 as the Greek philosophers taught.
04:29 >>So, very, very insightful story,
04:32 and the conclusion that he comes to, I think,
04:35 is a very positive one, a very biblical one.
04:38 I wanna go back to build on something that we looked at
04:42 a few weeks ago, and we looked at death occurring
04:46 in the Old Testament and the significance of it.
04:51 What about some of those sacrifices
04:53 that took place in the Old Testament?
04:56 We looked back at Genesis 3:15 a few weeks ago,
04:59 how the the serpent's head would be wounded
05:01 and the Seed of the woman's heel would be wounded,
05:04 at that "protoevangelium," as it's sometimes called,
05:07 that first glimpse at Jesus the Messiah
05:10 and the plan of salvation.
05:11 How did sacrifices in the Old Testament
05:14 foreshadow Christ's death on the cross?
05:18 How are those two linked together?
05:21 >>Many people are afraid or do not like very much
05:24 the references to the, in the Old Testament,
05:26 to animal sacrifices because they say,
05:30 "Well, there is too much blood in the Old Testament,
05:34 "and I prefer the New Testament, is more love
05:37 and not so much justice as in the Old Testament."
05:40 But remember, each one of the human beings
05:44 since the fall of Adam and Eve had really
05:49 a death sentence on them,
05:53 and in this case, they should die,
05:56 but God's mercy allowed an animal to die
06:01 in place of human beings.
06:03 So, every single sacrifice, bodily sacrifice,
06:08 offered according to God's plan,
06:10 because there were pagan sacrifices also that did not count,
06:14 but the ones that follow the biblical pattern
06:16 established by God, they foreshadowed
06:20 the Lamb of God that would take away the sins of the world.
06:27 But let me just add another point.
06:28 Some people say, as I told you,
06:30 that the Old Testament is just based on justice,
06:35 and the New Testament--or judgment--
06:38 and the New Testament in love and mercy.
06:41 But the Apostle Paul in Romans, chapter 3
06:44 says exactly the opposite.
06:48 In the Old Testament, God was very merciful,
06:51 but the fullness of God's justice was revealed
06:55 not through the sacrifices of the Old Testament,
07:00 as many as they were, but in the cross where Jesus died
07:05 as the Lamb of God,
07:08 not for His own sake, but for all human beings.
07:14 So His sacrifice is available to all,
07:18 for those who will accept it and be saved,
07:20 but is available even to those who will be punished
07:24 and they will be that who do not accept Christ
07:27 as the Lamb of God.
07:29 >>You make an important point here
07:31 that that salvation is available to everybody,
07:35 and those who receive it, those who accept it by faith,
07:38 are gonna be ones who receive it.
07:40 The memory text for this week is,
07:43 I think, a significant one.
07:44 In John, chapter 3, verses 14 and 15, it says,
07:48 "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
07:51 "even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
07:54 "that whoever believes in Him should not perish
07:58 but have [everlasting] life."
08:00 And then, of course, the following verse is John 3:16,
08:02 probably the most frequently quoted verse in the Bible.
08:05 What about that serpent that was lifted up by Moses
08:08 in the wilderness? How did that give us a picture of Jesus?
08:12 And what significance, what are the parallels there?
08:15 >>Actually the serpent is a...
08:19 is a symbol of sin, of evil.
08:23 And that, you remember that when there was
08:26 that kind of plague there in the wilderness,
08:29 and many people were dying with a serpent,
08:33 God asked Moses to make a serpent there of bronze,
08:37 of metal there, and looking to it, they would have--
08:41 they would be healed.
08:43 It's interesting that this symbol is the,
08:48 is a way of illustrating
08:51 that Jesus would take our plan,
08:56 our sins, not that He became sinful,
09:01 as such, but He took over Him our sins.
09:05 And that is a remarkable illustration
09:08 of what Christ did for us. And there is another passage
09:12 in John, chapter 12, where He says,
09:16 "And when I will be lifted up from the earth,
09:21 I will draw all to me," or attract. And in the book
09:26 "Steps to Christ" by Ellen White,
09:28 and I like very much that statement
09:31 where she expands a little bit on this expression.
09:34 She says...that to the sinner,
09:40 all that it takes is a glimpse of the cross,
09:44 and he, "if he does not resist he will be drawn...
09:49 [in repentance at] the foot of the cross."
09:53 So, in other words, is not I that go
09:58 to the cross begging for forgiveness and salvation, saying,
10:02 "Lord, please, maybe You can have, give me a chance,"
10:06 something like that.
10:08 No. He takes the initiative, and the cross has
10:11 that kind of attraction drawing us, to us,
10:15 and if we don't resist, God's mercy will transform us.
10:19 And this is the beauty of this symbol.
10:23 >>Thanks for clarifying that.
10:25 It makes a whole lot more sense.
10:26 I want to read another verse now
10:29 and give you an opportunity to respond to it.
10:32 We've been talking about sacrifices in the Old Testament,
10:35 and yet in Hebrews, chapter 10, verse number 4
10:39 is a very fascinating statement.
10:40 Hebrews 10:4 says, "For it is not possible
10:43 that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins."
10:50 So if the blood of bulls and goats,
10:51 all the sacrifices, doesn't take away the sin,
10:53 then what's the point of all the sacrifices?
10:56 >>Yeah, and you could even add to your question, Eric,
10:59 the idea that even Moses, Enoch, and Elijah
11:03 were in heaven already. And in this case, well,
11:08 there are many ways of understanding it, but I prefer the,
11:13 to compare it with a credit card.
11:17 The credit card, you make a actual payment with it.
11:21 And so, the person, the store or whoever or in the internet,
11:26 they receive the payment for it, but actually,
11:29 the payment becomes effective under the condition
11:32 that later on that I pay my credit card bill.
11:36 If I don't pay, then it's a disaster.
11:39 In this case, people in the Old Testament, including Moses
11:43 and Enoch and Elijah, they were actually saved,
11:48 but salvation in the Old Testament,
11:51 although it was complete and effective,
11:56 so it was not something that was, "Well,
11:59 let's say we pretend." No, it was effective,
12:02 but it was dependent on the payment
12:05 of the price for God's justice
12:09 offered that Friday on the cross of Calvary.
12:13 >>And by the grace of God,
12:15 He made that payment, and He made the payment in full.
12:18 And He continues to be there to minister to us
12:21 and to encourage us in the life that we live.
12:24 And we look at the world that we live in right now,
12:26 and it's got a lot of pain.
12:28 it's got a lot of sorrow, and unfortunately,
12:30 it's got a lot of death, dying, and sometimes
12:33 not a lot of future hope,
12:34 or at least not for a lot of people.
12:35 But this quarter is all about that.
12:37 It's about the future hope and understanding the hope
12:39 that we do have when it involves death and dying.
12:44 If you've been enjoying this quarter's lessons,
12:46 and we're making our way through the quarter.
12:48 We're about halfway through,
12:50 maybe not quite halfway through right now,
12:52 but if you want to dig into it more
12:55 and get more out of it and understand it better,
12:57 I wanna encourage you to pick up the companion book
13:00 to this quarter's lesson.
13:01 It's called "On Death, Dying, and the Future Hope"
13:04 by author Alberto Timm.
13:05 He, of course, is our guest here each week
13:07 on "Sabbath School."
13:09 And he goes into more detail, gives additional insight
13:12 into the subjects that we are looking at
13:15 during the course of this quarter during these 14 lessons.
13:19 So if you wanna understand it better,
13:20 or if you know someone else who has a misunderstanding,
13:24 of this subject and you want to help them see more clearly
13:28 the hope that there is in Jesus,
13:30 I wanna encourage you to pick that book up.
13:32 You'll find it at itiswritten.shop.
13:35 Again, it's called "On Death, Dying, and the Future Hope."
13:38 We'll be back in just a moment as we continue our study.
13:41 See you in just a moment.
13:42 (inspirational theme music)
13:47 >>Join me on "It Is Written"
13:49 for one of the great chapters of the Bible,
13:52 Isaiah, chapter 53.
13:55 Isaiah has been called the gospel prophet
13:57 because how he repeatedly brings Jesus to light
14:00 throughout the book of Isaiah.
14:02 And there's no chapter in the book of Isaiah
14:04 where he does that more than Isaiah, chapter 53.
14:07 Isaiah 53 has been quoted
14:09 in the New Testament numerous times.
14:12 And you see why when you study God's Word
14:15 and focus on Isaiah, chapter 53.
14:17 It's about Jesus Christ, crucified,
14:21 the One who died for the sins of the world,
14:23 the Jesus that you and I know is coming back
14:26 to this world to take us home.
14:28 Don't miss
14:30 "Great Chapters of the Bible: Isaiah [Chapter] 53."
14:34 You will be moved, you'll be blessed,
14:36 and you will be encouraged in faith in God.
14:41 "Great Chapters of the Bible: Isaiah 53,"
14:44 watch now on It Is Written TV.
14:48 (inspirational theme music)
14:52 >>Welcome back to "Sabbath School,"
14:54 brought to you by It Is Written.
14:55 We are taking a look at Christ's death for us this week.
15:00 And, Alberto, I wanna, I wanna drill down on something
15:04 or look into something.
15:05 The Bible talks about the cross as an altar.
15:09 How is the cross an altar? What is the significance of that,
15:13 and what type of an altar does it represent?
15:17 >>Actually, this is a...
15:20 a typological expression,
15:23 or, in other words, you have the types or symbols
15:27 of the Old Testament.
15:28 Sacrifices during Old Testament times were offered
15:33 on altars made of stones.
15:36 And so the animal was put over there as a sacrifice.
15:39 And probably the most meaningful sacrifice
15:42 of the Old Testament was the animal that was offered
15:49 replacing Isaac when Abraham went to the,
15:54 to fulfill God's requirements over there. So he,
15:59 Isaac, should be offered as a sacrifice,
16:02 but then God Himself provided a substitute,
16:05 another animal, to be offered over there.
16:08 So this idea of substitution is very meaningful
16:13 in regard to the sacrifices. And at the cross,
16:17 Christ offered Himself in our place.
16:22 But some people struggle about who offered Him.
16:26 Were the Roman soldiers who really nailed Him to the cross?
16:32 Also, at the cross
16:35 Christ was not only a sacrifice; but He was a priest.
16:41 He offered Himself for our sins.
16:44 So, it's interesting, this combination,
16:47 because usually in the Old Testament--usually, not always--
16:50 in the Old Testament, the priest offered another sacrifice,
16:54 never himself or herself, himself, better saying.
16:58 But in this case,
17:00 you will see immediately that Jesus is both of them.
17:06 And so, a Priest offering Himself--
17:09 and this is unique--in fulfillment of all the sacrifices
17:14 to the, of the Old Testament,
17:16 as a sacrifice of love for all humanity.
17:22 >>A beautiful picture of Christ's love for us
17:23 and His willingness to sacrifice Himself.
17:27 Now, on Tuesday's lesson, it's a short title of the lesson.
17:31 In fact, it's just three words,
17:33 but there's a lot of meaning in those three words.
17:36 It's a quote
17:37 from John, chapter 19, verse number 30,
17:41 which says, "It is finished!"
17:44 Okay, so the question is,
17:46 when Jesus died on the cross, what was finished?
17:51 And I guess, as an extension question, what wasn't finished?
17:55 What was accomplished on the cross,
17:58 and what still, if everything is finished--well,
18:01 let me put it this way:
18:02 If everything is finished on the cross,
18:03 why are we still here?
18:05 Maybe that's another way of asking the question.
18:07 Explain "It is finished."
18:10 >>Actually, this is a very meaningful statement.
18:13 You have heard about this
18:15 that there are seven statements Jesus made from the cross,
18:21 but probably this was the most meaningful,
18:22 the most significant.
18:25 I like the expression that Ellen White uses, that
18:29 the life of Jesus was a preface
18:34 to His death on the cross.
18:38 And there is a old Bible commentator,
18:42 Plumber, his name, that says that what hold Jesus
18:46 on the cross were not the nails,
18:50 but His willingness to save us, as His enemies, even.
18:55 So He died for His enemies because He want to save it.
18:59 But when it came to the crucial moment--"It is finished"--
19:02 I think it had a...it's a broad concept
19:07 that meant that His struggles with the powers of evil
19:13 that He faced throughout His life, came to a end,
19:17 but, much more than this, it really meant
19:22 Christ's triumph over the powers of evil,
19:26 over Satan.
19:27 So the plan of salvation
19:30 was really in place and triumphed.
19:35 That's the word of victory,
19:37 of Jesus over the powers of evil.
19:41 So that, as a sacrifice, it was complete.
19:46 "Where sin abounded"--using the language of Paul--
19:50 grace was much more overflowed at the world
19:54 with the grace of Christ. But remember,
19:59 it was finished as the plan of salvation.
20:02 And I like very much what Paul says, for instance,
20:06 in 2 Corinthians,
20:10 chapter 5, verses 18 on.
20:14 He says that God was in Christ reconciling
20:19 with Him the world. But now comes our part,
20:25 and Paul is begging, "Please,
20:27 you should also reconcile yourself with God."
20:31 So that salvation is available to everybody.
20:36 But Jesus, His priesthood in the heavenly sanctuary,
20:40 according to the book of Hebrews and other Bible passages,
20:43 is the place where Jesus offers salvation for us today.
20:49 So, the payment for sin
20:53 was complete for God's justice,
20:56 but it needs to be completed in my life also.
21:00 And there is a reason why Paul says
21:02 in Hebrews 4,
21:06 verses 14-16, that if you are in need,
21:09 you should go to the throne of grace.
21:12 Where grace i, is yet a throne of mercy,
21:16 where grace is available to you. And...
21:20 But, although the hosts of evil
21:25 receive their sentence at the cross,
21:30 they still exist, and evil is still in our world.
21:36 They have no right to exist, but they exist.
21:39 And so, God is leading human history to the final triumph.
21:45 So that sentence to the hosts of evil is there,
21:48 but it will be executed
21:50 at the end of the millennium,
21:52 according to Gen--to the book of Revelation,
21:57 and you have there
21:59 chapters 20 and then 21 as well.
22:04 So we still need to have the ceasing
22:08 of evil and all the wicked of this world.
22:14 >>So the cross really is central to the plan of salvation.
22:18 The plan of salvation doesn't happen without it.
22:20 In Revelation, there's this picture--
22:23 and you mentioned Revelation just a moment ago--
22:26 there's this picture of the heavenly host rejoicing
22:28 in "the Lamb that was slain."
22:31 It...doesn't sound like anything to rejoice in,
22:34 from a certain perspective,
22:35 and yet from a different perspective,
22:37 there's a great deal to rejoice in.
22:40 >>Actually, the cross is the greatest contrast
22:43 of the universe, in my understanding,
22:47 because the infinite love of God
22:53 and the selfishness of Satan
22:56 is the first time that they met face to face.
23:00 There is no other such a sharp contrast,
23:03 such meaningful as the cross.
23:05 And actually, the question that you could ask is,
23:10 was the cross an act of God or of Satan?
23:16 Well, before answering a tricky question,
23:19 you have first to rephrase the question.
23:21 Actually, it's not either-or.
23:23 It was the act of God, because the Bible is clear,
23:26 saying that God gave His Son for us.
23:30 So, Christ's willingness,
23:34 He offered Himself for us. But at the same time,
23:38 Satan observed Him in pain and suffering.
23:42 And by doing so, he actually,
23:47 that was a decree of his own death sentence.
23:51 So the cross is a action of both of them.
23:55 That is the victory. There was during Christ's ministry
24:00 a struggle between good and evil, the forces.
24:03 Jesus, actually, in His ministry,
24:05 was a continuous struggle against the powers of evil,
24:10 either in a spiritual sense
24:13 or even evil using, Satan using human beings.
24:17 And the most tragic thing in my understanding is that
24:22 he used even the priesthood at that time.
24:25 The high priest that was supposed to minister
24:30 as a representative, as a type of Christ,
24:33 he was the main one used by Satan.
24:37 And now, at this point, Jesus really triumphed.
24:41 And that was really--the cross of Christ
24:44 is what avoids rebellion to come
24:48 into the universe again, because sin
24:52 is not worthy to be followed or to fall into sin.
24:57 And so it will be like a "vaccine"
25:00 against another rebellion in the universe.
25:03 And no wonder that the whole hosts of heaven
25:08 in the book of Revelation, like, the angelical beings,
25:11 the great multitudes, the creatures, and so on,
25:15 they are rejoicing on the victory that the Lamb
25:19 was able to get at the cross.
25:25 Actually, at the cross, the whole future
25:29 of humanity and of the universe was at stake.
25:35 Had Jesus failed, that was, that would be the disaster
25:38 of humanity.
25:41 But praise the Lord, that was not the case.
25:43 So we cannot speak,
25:45 we should never speak about if it would not take place
25:49 because it actually took place,
25:51 and that was a major victory.
25:55 >>So, looking back, we see that it did take place.
25:57 We should be grateful that it did.
25:59 Conceptually, we've got an understanding of
26:01 what took place and its ramifications,
26:03 its meaning to what's going on in the world.
26:07 What about to us personally?
26:08 What's the significance of the cross to me,
26:11 to you, personally?
26:14 >>Only at the foot of the cross we can get salvation.
26:17 God has no alternative plan of salvation.
26:21 Only by accepting Christ,
26:23 the sacrifice for us in our place, is that
26:28 we can really have assurance of salvation.
26:31 No wonder that even Paul
26:34 in Galatians 6:14 says,
26:38 "That I"--"God forbid that I [would] boast
26:41 [in anything else] except [for] the cross of...Christ,"
26:46 where Christ died for me, and I died for Him,
26:51 not in the thing of paying anything but in the sense
26:53 of dying for this world and living in harmony
26:57 with God's will. So, this is our only assurance
27:01 in this world, and our hope,
27:04 assurance in the present and hope for the future.
27:09 >>Alberto, thank you for helping to unpack
27:11 this particular week's lesson, "He Died for Us,"
27:14 a very significant subject
27:16 as we're going through this study this quarter
27:19 on "Death, Dying, and the Future Hope,"
27:22 because without the cross there really is no future hope.
27:25 But with the cross, there is hope for everybody.
27:29 The truth is Jesus died for you.
27:32 The question is, will you receive His death on your behalf?
27:35 And I hope that the answer is yes.
27:37 We're gonna be back again next week as we continue
27:39 looking at this fascinating subject,
27:41 delving into it more deeply,
27:43 answering common questions, and getting
27:45 a clearer picture of Jesus and His plan for your life.
27:48 We look forward to seeing you again next week
27:50 on "Sabbath School," brought to you by It Is Written.
27:53 God bless you. We'll see you then.
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