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Series Code: JFAN
Program Code: JFAN000050A
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00:21 Hello and welcome to Jesus for Asia Now.
00:24 I'm Natalie Wood, and my husband Jon 00:25 is joining me in the studio today. 00:27 Hello, love. Hi, darling. 00:28 How are you? Doing fine. 00:30 You know, our last show, we talked about 00:33 the Love for Asia Foundation. 00:34 Correct. Yeah. 00:35 Now this is a part two, sort of, 00:38 we're going to continue talking about 00:39 Love for Asia Foundation, right? 00:41 Yes. Okay. 00:42 What are we going to be talking about today? 00:43 The Lord is opening up some exciting opportunities 00:46 for us to grow into at Love for Asia in Thailand. 00:50 But the reason for that is that there's a huge amount of need 00:54 in the Thailand country. 00:55 Of course, there's needs in many different places, 00:58 but this is a good example of some of the challenges 01:01 that we face in the mission field. 01:03 You know, Thailand is got less than 1% Christian, 01:06 and because of that, there's so few resources 01:09 available to share the gospel, just a simple book, 01:12 a simple track, something to give somebody 01:15 to tell them about Jesus. 01:17 In some measurements, people say, 01:19 I've even heard preach that 94% or 95% of the world 01:23 has access to the gospel if they wanted. 01:25 But if you live in a country like Thailand, 01:29 you start to realize that not everybody 01:31 has access to the gospel. 01:34 Many people grow up and live their entire lives 01:37 without ever hearing the name of Jesus. 01:39 Maybe they'll hear a cuss word in a Hollywood movie 01:43 that takes the Lord's name in vain. 01:46 We've met other people, many other people 01:48 that have never heard the name of Jesus. 01:50 And many of them are born, live their entire lives, 01:54 and die without ever hearing the name of Jesus. 01:57 And I don't think that's fair. No. 02:00 No, it's not fair. Exactly. 02:02 And if I was in their position, I would like to know, 02:06 at least have the chance to know 02:08 that there is a possibility for eternal life. 02:11 And so because of this great need, 02:13 I've had that burden to do something with media 02:18 'cause another factor in Thailand 02:19 is that very few people like to read. 02:23 Most people can read, they just don't care to. 02:26 And so to overcome that, you know, 02:28 they like to watch TVs. 02:30 Matter of fact, they're one of the highest 02:31 per capita TV watchers in the world. 02:35 Wow. 02:37 It's kind of a scary, scary trend, 02:39 scary statistics, isn't it? 02:40 Yeah, yeah. Exactly. 02:42 But it's an opportunity to bring the gospel 02:46 into a form that they can... 02:48 Are willing to look at. Yeah. Exactly. 02:51 A lot of people in this age speak English. 02:55 And so we think that the Gospel going to the world 02:59 in English is sufficient. 03:01 But the unfortunate truth is that very few people 03:05 in a country like Thailand speak English. 03:08 Well, and their worldview is so completely different. 03:11 Right. 03:12 That they don't understand 03:13 some of the cultural references we make. 03:16 Some things we take for granted. 03:18 That we say and we think it's a normal thing to say, 03:21 they don't have words for that or they don't have 03:24 an understanding for that in their culture. 03:26 And so in English, it doesn't get across. 03:30 Correct. 03:31 It's really, really best if they receive the media 03:35 or they receive the books or whatever it is 03:38 in their original tongue in their heart language. 03:41 Correct. That's where the need is. 03:43 That's why the need is there. Right. 03:45 And the sad thing is that even though 03:47 this is our primary job as a church, 03:51 this is the thing we're not aware of, 03:54 we're not aware of the needs of the world, 03:58 around the world. 03:59 And many people say, "Well, I just want to witness 04:01 to my neighbor." 04:03 I believe that in this day and age, 04:05 you can choose your neighbor. 04:07 It's true. 04:08 You can go make a friend in India, 04:10 you can go make a friend in China, 04:12 you can go make a friend in Cambodia or Thailand. 04:15 Anywhere, anybody in this world is your potential neighbor. 04:20 That's true. That is true. 04:22 Yeah. Wow. 04:24 So again, going back to why do we need to do this, 04:27 "This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached 04:29 in all the world, and then the end will come." 04:32 And we have a beautiful quote 04:33 from Mrs. White talking about this. 04:36 "By giving the gospel to the world 04:38 it is in our power to hasten our Lord's return. 04:41 We are not only to look for 04:43 but to hasten the coming of the day of God. 04:45 Had the church of Christ done her appointed work 04:47 as the Lord ordained, the whole world would 04:50 before this have been warned, and the Lord Jesus would 04:53 have come to our earth in power and great glory." 04:56 Ain't that an amazing concept that we have the power 04:59 to hasten the Lord's coming? 05:02 Yeah. Wow. 05:04 That's sobering. That's exciting. 05:06 It makes you think about what you're doing. 05:08 Yeah. 05:09 "What am I doing with my life, with my resources, 05:11 with my means, with my prayers? 05:14 Am I praying for the unreached? 05:17 You know, am I using influence to get other people 05:19 excited about the unreached?" 05:21 There's so much, you know, it seems like a huge task, 05:24 but if we all bound together, and if there is a revival 05:27 for missions, we could accomplish 05:29 this task in this generation. 05:32 That's true. That's true. 05:33 'Cause God will pour out His Spirit on those 05:36 that are working, and their work 05:39 will be worth so much more and will go so much further 05:43 with His Spirit involved. 05:44 It's going to happen because He promises it. 05:46 Right. I just want to be a part of it. 05:48 Yeah. 05:49 And that's what we're going to offer our viewers also, 05:51 and it's the opportunity to be a part of it, to pray for it, 05:55 and to be a part of what's going on. 05:57 Well, talking about Thailand, we want to introduce 06:01 our special project there, Love for Asia Foundation. 06:04 Now what is a foundation? 06:05 A foundation is like a 501(c)(3) in Thailand. 06:09 And so we have a quick video here 06:11 just showing the office where is at. 06:13 Okay. 06:14 And those that watched the previous episode 06:16 probably will recognize it 06:18 because we did show it there also. 06:19 Right. 06:20 But this is an opportunity for them 06:22 to see the beauty surrounding our office there. 06:24 Yeah, I just want to point out, as our viewers are watching it, 06:27 we do a 360 around the office, and right when we slow down 06:31 to normal speed, you'll see this flock of birds 06:33 just fly about it, it's my favorite shot. 06:36 Okay, let's watch that now. Okay. 07:42 So in looking at ways that we can fill this gap 07:45 of not enough literature tools, resources, and understandings, 07:50 we started thinking, "You know what? 07:52 We need to build our sermon library in Thai, 07:55 for the Thai people and the Hmong, and the Karen, 07:58 and the Akha, and the Lahu, 08:00 and all these other people groups." 08:02 But how can we do that? 08:03 We can bring them to our place, but we don't have a studio, 08:07 so what if we get vehicle that will take us 08:11 that we can go to these different places 08:13 and capture it in real time. 08:15 Also, you know, when a preacher comes 08:17 to a studio, there's nobody there, 08:19 it's kind of dry, it's hard to preach. 08:21 If they have an audience, you've got that... 08:23 Right. It's a different dynamic. 08:25 Yeah. 08:26 You know, in 2009, when we started 08:28 being impressed with this need 08:30 and started trying to build this team, 08:34 we actually had a couple that we go by motorbike 08:37 and do what we are talking about. 08:39 Right. 08:40 They would take the equipment 08:41 and record in churches and various places. 08:43 And we saw there was an entire Hmong village, 08:47 almost the whole village came to know Christ 08:50 and to accept the Adventist message 08:52 because this couple went on motorbikes. 08:54 Yeah. 08:55 But there is a rainy season in Thailand, 08:57 and you don't travel with the equipment 08:59 on motorbikes in rainy season, it's not a good idea. 09:04 And some of our team have vehicles 09:05 but some of them are really unreliable. 09:08 Right. 09:09 And they can't take the whole team in one vehicle. 09:11 And so we started praying for to see the Lord's plan 09:16 or what did the Lord want. 09:17 Yeah. 09:18 Also the Love for Asia Foundation supports 09:21 missionaries in being in country. 09:24 And so they went to visit one of the missionary projects, 09:26 and they're in a road 09:29 that it really needs four-wheel drive. 09:31 And so they came back, and says, 09:33 "Wow, we really need a four-wheel drive." 09:34 And I'm thinking, "No, we don't. 09:36 We don't need to spend that kind of money." 09:38 And I just try to put it out of my mind, 09:41 but it's just kept coming back, and I started thinking, 09:43 "Maybe this could be a production vehicle." 09:46 And I'm like, "Lord, 09:47 we don't have the money for this, 09:49 but it sure would be nice. 09:51 And, Lord, you know, how else are we going 09:53 to develop our sermon library? 09:56 How else we're going to get a team 09:58 to a place to set up cameras. 09:59 And it's got to be quick and convenient 10:01 so we can do it on a regular basis." 10:04 And the Lord just wouldn't let it drift or leave my mind. 10:07 And so after a while... 10:09 One night, I'll never forget, I just prayed really, really... 10:11 I woke up at like 3 o'clock in the morning. 10:13 I was in the Philippians, and I had jet lag, 10:15 so that helped. 10:16 And I just started going after God saying, 10:18 "Lord, what do you want with us?" 10:21 And instead of giving me reasons 10:23 why we shouldn't do it, 10:24 He started giving me encouragement. 10:27 This is what I often find with God is that 10:29 He tends to be an encourager. 10:32 You know, He... 10:35 I've come to this conclusion that it's hard to make plans 10:37 when your partner is infinite, 10:40 omnipotent, or wise, or powerful. 10:44 So He just gave me a really warm feeling, 10:48 He gave me several Bible texts 10:49 that were very clear to move forward. 10:52 And so we went to Thailand, and went down, 10:55 and we had to finance this truck, 10:57 we had to borrow the money, and actually one of our workers 11:01 in Thailand, it's the loan is in his name 11:06 because we couldn't afford paying this whole thing. 11:08 So we're still making payments on this truck. 11:10 Oh, when we found out at the last minute 11:12 that we couldn't actually do it alone 11:14 in the name of the foundation or we couldn't yet 11:17 or whatever, so we had to... 11:20 But he stepped in and volunteered. 11:21 Yeah. 11:22 So I'm very thankful for that, but this is the kind of... 11:26 It's not just, "Oh, I think 11:27 I'll buy a truck today," you know. 11:28 No, no. Definitely not. 11:31 It's like it's just going to bankrupt the ministry, 11:33 you know, and our funding back home 11:36 was we were challenged, still are. 11:39 Yes. But God is in control. 11:41 Right. And He keeps us dependent. 11:43 Yes. 11:44 So we made this little video, 11:46 the day that we took delivery of the truck. 11:59 God has done an amazing thing in my faith experience. 12:03 Today, we just took delivery of this. 12:06 It's not a brand new Toyota, it's actually 10 years old, 12:10 11 years old, but it's still kind of expensive 12:14 for what we're used to. 12:16 We're used to riding motorbikes. 12:18 And here Lord has brought us into a Toyota Fortuner. 12:23 And so how did this happen? 12:26 Couple of months ago, Daniel sent me 12:28 a picture of this thing, and I thought, 12:30 my first reaction was, "There's no way, 12:32 just totally impossible, we're not doing it, 12:35 just a waste of money." 12:37 And after I started praying about it 12:40 and thinking about it realizing, you know what, 12:42 this could be your real production car. 12:44 It could go to a church, roll up the cables, 12:47 set up the cameras, 12:49 the director could sit in the car, 12:51 and switch the whole show, 12:53 and start building our library of sermons in it. 12:56 Two weeks ago, I was in final decision time, 12:59 "Should we do this or should we not? 13:00 If this just for me, I don't want to do it. 13:03 If it's just my idea or ambition or whatever, 13:06 I really don't want to do it." 13:08 So I woke up really early in the morning. 13:10 I was in the Philippines at that time, 13:12 and I've been praying a lot about it. 13:14 And that morning, I woke up around 2:30, 13:16 and I just started going to God and instead of begging 13:20 and pleading like I usually do, I just surrendered it, 13:23 I surrendered it, and I praised His name, 13:26 I surrendered and praised. 13:29 Stepping out and purchasing this vehicle 13:32 was a big faith adventure. 13:34 In fact, even now, even today, just before we took it out, 13:38 I was having these doubts, it's like, "What you're doing? 13:41 You're going out on the line." 13:42 Again, I have to back, 13:43 it's the Lord that builds up truth. 13:45 It's not me, and it's not anybody else, 13:48 it's the Lord who does it. 13:49 So we surrendered this whole in to His hands. 13:52 And the idea is that we're going to keep this out, 13:55 set it up so it can be a production vehicle. 13:59 So we're getting the team really practiced into 14:02 how to run cameras, how to switch the whole thing 14:05 so that when we leave, they can take over and continue 14:08 that kind of production using this vehicle 14:11 out in the villages, out in the churches out there, 14:14 and wherever the Lord takes them. 14:31 Wow. 14:32 So ain't that a beautiful truck? 14:33 It is. 14:34 And it's so amazing how God 14:35 has provided something that's... 14:37 So really, it's quite nice actually. 14:40 Yeah. It's very nice. 14:42 It doesn't have all the features 14:43 that we're, you know, doesn't have electric seats 14:45 and stuff like that, but it's a diesel, it's strong, 14:49 it's really comfortable to drive, 14:51 but it really gets the job done. 14:53 But we bought it with just a basic, I mean, 14:55 it was just a truck, and so we had to outfit it. 14:58 So I was trying to figure out... 14:59 Because we needed a TV mounted in that truck. 15:03 "So how are we going to mount that? 15:04 Are we going to hang it from the roof? 15:05 What are we going to do?" 15:06 I didn't want to have to like set everything up 15:07 every time we go some place. 15:10 So one day, as I was traveling into Chiang Mai, I saw this, 15:14 you know, sports car shop where they modify cars, 15:17 you know, put the extra wide... 15:19 Fancy bumpers... Yeah. 15:21 And I've seen them before where they build out a car 15:25 with a special speaker system, stereo system, 15:28 where they'll actually design entire like body panels 15:32 inside the trunk and all that kind of stuff. 15:34 Okay. 15:35 Really intricate little designs to put the speakers in. 15:38 And so I stopped in there. 15:40 And told them what we wanted to do. 15:42 And of course, we needed to power it off 15:46 the car generator so with three invertors 15:50 and a whole little thing to put the TV on... 15:53 Cabinet. Cabinet and everything, $800. 15:56 Wow. 15:57 And that was covered with the really nice 16:00 leatherette kind of vinyl material... 16:02 That matches the vehicle. 16:04 Exactly. Okay. 16:06 So mounting the TV and everything, it's beautiful. 16:17 Today, we are at the village of Wat Doi. 16:19 And it's up in the mountains in Northern Thailand. 16:24 And this is a really exciting day for us 16:26 because it is the first time we are taking our new, 16:29 to us, production truck. 16:31 And this is a fully 16:34 self-contained production vehicle, 16:37 so this is designed that we roll up to a church, 16:41 roll out the cables, set up the cameras, 16:43 and shoot, and produce. 16:54 Today is a fulfillment of many years of dreaming, 16:57 and planning, and, praying, and begging God for new ways 17:02 to reach people that don't have access to the gospel. 17:06 We're here in Thailand, and less than 1% 17:08 of the entire population is Christian 17:10 and much less than that is Adventists. 17:13 So how are they to hear of this message? 17:15 We have such a small workforce to share the message 17:18 to so many people. 17:20 And today is like a fulfillment of a huge dream. 17:24 We've been able to outfit this thing 17:27 with a broadcast quality video switcher 17:31 and monitor and a recording device, 17:34 but in addition to that, we've got this little tiny box 17:39 that then takes that signal and broadcasts it to Facebook. 17:43 So here I'm with this phone, and I've got the Facebook app 17:49 open right now, and you can see if I click on this... 17:59 this is coming from Facebook streaming the sermon 18:02 that's happening right here in the middle of Thailand. 18:05 Now anybody in the world can watch the sermon 18:09 that's coming out of this little tiny church 18:12 here in Northern Thailand, it's crazy. 18:17 This truck, okay, all tooled with everything 18:20 including cameras which we're borrowing 18:23 about $27,000, so less than $30,000 18:27 an entire self-contained mobile production unit. 18:34 Now this is just amazing. 18:36 The new technology, the way things were coming together, 18:39 this is broadcast quality production 18:42 for neglected languages. 18:46 Think about the implications, we could have one of these 18:49 for every language and get a team going, 18:52 a team of about three people can run a truck like this, 18:56 go anywhere. 18:58 I can't believe how exciting this is. 19:00 I mean, it's just... 19:03 I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight 19:06 'cause the people that this is going to reach 19:08 is probably never be able to reach them 19:12 in any other way and no one's really trying. 19:14 But look what you can do now, just look what you can do, 19:17 look what God has done. 19:22 Thank you for your help, for your donations, 19:25 and for your prayer in allowing us 19:27 and making this thing happen. 19:29 And praise be to God, who is given us the courage 19:33 to try new stuff. 19:48 It's exciting. So now is the first weekend. 19:49 Yes. That the truck was ever used. 19:52 Yes, we got it modded, we got things installed 19:55 went out there. 19:57 I wasn't even sure that we were going to be able to broadcast, 19:59 but Daniel Bair was there with us, 20:01 and he's such a whizz at programming that he... 20:04 "Oh, I got this broadcasting." 20:06 I'm like, "Really? Wow. Cool." That's great. 20:10 Very thankful for Daniel 20:12 and his abilities and his heart, and his family, 20:16 his wife's heart for the mission. 20:18 But... Before we move on... 20:19 Okay. 20:20 Did want to mention again that the cameras are borrowed. 20:22 Yes. 20:23 But I also wanted you to clarify the $27,000 20:26 that you quoted in that video, less than $30, 000 you said. 20:28 Right. 20:29 What is really included in that number? 20:31 Okay. 20:32 'Cause that seems like a large number 20:34 but then that's a lot, I mean, 20:37 production equipment is expensive. 20:39 So what does that include? 20:41 Okay, that was... 20:42 Okay, we bought the truck for $15,000. 20:44 Okay. 20:45 So if we had paid the full $15,000, 20:48 if we want to replace that by a truck, brand used truck, 20:55 by new cameras, by new tripods, by new switcher, 20:58 by new broadcast, re-outfit everything, 21:03 only the truck would be used, 21:04 then that would be the cost of that. 21:06 So that each camera would be a lot less, more like, 21:10 I don't know $1,500 to $2,500 somewhere in there per camera. 21:14 So that's the total package if we want to do another one 21:17 and put it into another language 21:19 or another area of the country 21:21 where different language groups are living. 21:24 So this truck is busy. Yes. 21:25 Like every weekend, they go somewhere to shoot. 21:28 And they have shot in 21:30 how many different languages so far? 21:31 Oh, I don't know, at least five different languages. 21:34 So they've done Thai, Karen, Lahu, Hmong. 21:38 That was Lahu, right? 21:39 That was a Lahu village that we're at. 21:40 Okay. Hmong. 21:42 Very soon after this first weekend, 21:44 we were driving along, and we got a call 21:46 from one of our missionaries Gayle Haberkam. 21:50 And she was saying, 21:51 "We are planning an evangelistic series, 21:54 the first ever evangelistic series 21:56 in this entire area..." 21:58 Where she's working... 22:00 Where she's working up in the mountains 22:01 of very steep mountains of Thailand, 22:06 northwest Thailand. 22:08 And she says, "Would your team be willing to come 22:10 and video tape it so that I could then have DVDs 22:13 to handout to my people so that they can learn 22:16 the gospel during the week where there is no pastor?" 22:20 Right. Right. 22:21 And remember it because, you know, you hear it once, 22:24 sometimes it doesn't stick. 22:26 Right. 22:27 And so sometimes it's good to refresh and to hear again. 22:29 Right. 22:30 So I told her, I said, "Well, we'll send the truck. 22:32 This truck has four-wheel drive, 22:35 we bought because it had four-wheel drive 22:37 just for the sake of doing events like this." 22:42 And she got so excited, "Oh, I never thought 22:44 you would send such an expensive truck 22:45 way up to my village." 22:47 And so we've got a little video, 22:49 just a one-minute video showing what that adventure was like. 22:52 Okay, here we go. Okay. 23:04 We're thinking, "Oh, man, it'll be so much better 23:06 to have a 4x4 truck that we could have all our gear 23:10 and rollup to any sight, any where, 23:13 pull out the cameras to gear, and then record." 23:17 It seemed like a pipedream, it seemed like too much, 23:20 and then along comes this year. 23:23 Actually it only not just this week that 23:26 that was the dream we had that four years ago, 23:29 it's really amazing how God brings things about. 23:34 I cannot tell you how excited I was to hear 23:39 that the media chain with this new truck 23:41 would actually come to my village. 23:44 There is so much potential with what we're able to do now. 23:48 I just prayed hearts will be changed and that many, 23:51 many of the people hear and everywhere that that media 23:54 truck goes can be in heaven because it is a great work. 24:03 It's beautiful, huh? Yeah. 24:04 It's so neat to think about the possibilities. 24:06 Yes. 24:07 They don't just record these videos, 24:09 they also make them available online 24:11 and by VCD or DVD so the long-term benefits 24:15 are just, I mean, you can't even imagine 24:18 where these videos might go. 24:19 Yeah. 24:20 And it's hard to imagine what an impact this has 24:24 because here in America, 24:25 we've got how many different channels 24:28 that are religious broadcasting, 24:30 we've got how different book, 24:32 how many different translations of the Bible. 24:34 In a place where the only way you learn about Jesus 24:37 is if somebody comes and talks to you about Him. 24:41 And when they've gone, you can no longer learn 24:44 anything more about Him. 24:46 And so if they get a DVD that talks about Him, 24:50 they can listen to it over and over again 24:51 that they can pass it around, share with their neighbors, 24:53 and their family, and their friends, 24:55 they can get more DVDs. 24:57 I mean, it's just a powerful tool 25:01 for a God's kingdom. 25:03 And it doesn't replace the personal touch, 25:05 it doesn't replace the need for pastors, and Bible workers, 25:08 and missionaries, but it's such a tool. 25:11 Yes. 25:12 We don't think this is the only way 25:13 to reach people. 25:15 When a country is trying to, you know, 25:17 invade another country, you've got the air force, 25:21 you've got the ground force. 25:22 And the air force, by itself, can't accomplish everything 25:26 and the ground force by itself. 25:29 With a vast numbers of people in Asia, 25:34 we're talking over half of the world lives in Asia. 25:37 Fifty-seven percent of the world's population 25:40 lives in Asia. 25:41 You know, how we're going to reach that many people 25:44 one by one? 25:45 We just don't have the man power. 25:46 So this is where the beauty of the air waves 25:51 and broadcast, it kind of... 25:54 Internet and using the various media outlets. 25:56 Exactly. 25:58 It can reach more people that are maybe interested, 26:01 and then they respond, now we have somebody interested 26:04 and so our Bible workers aren't just cold-calling, you know, 26:08 knocking on doors. 26:09 They're responding to people 26:10 with an already developed interest. 26:12 Right. 26:14 And they put these videos not only on YouTube, 26:16 but they put them on Facebook and out there 26:18 so that people can see them 26:20 no matter which social media platform 26:22 or which way they want to see them. 26:23 Yeah. 26:24 And wherever they are in the world, 26:26 they can watch it in their language. 26:29 That's amazing. 26:30 A few years ago, the sad thing is is that we almost 26:33 had to layoff everybody in that team 26:36 because of our severe financial constraints 26:39 at that time. 26:40 And I rustled so hard with God, and it was so hard 26:44 to finally surrender that because I would give my life 26:48 before this I would see this work stop 26:52 because I see it is so strategic in God's kingdom. 26:55 Yeah. And, you know what? 26:56 Satan fights anything that has to do with media. 27:00 And so thankfully, God has allowed that to continue to go 27:05 but it's still a challenge month to month. 27:08 Right. 27:09 And so if we link our arms together 27:12 with everybody here that has a heart 27:15 for seeing God's gospel go to un-entered parts of the world. 27:19 If we can all join together and do little bit, 27:22 we can make this thing, fulfill God's plan. 27:25 Yeah. 27:28 You might have seen Jon and I tear up a little bit 27:30 at the end of some of these videos. 27:32 If so, it's because we're so amazed and humbled 27:35 to see what God is willing to do 27:38 to share His great love with the world today. 27:41 If you would like to be a part of sending the gospel 27:44 through media to the unreached people groups, 27:47 especially in Thailand, 27:48 you can just send your tax deductible love gift 27:51 to Jesus for Asia, PO Box 1221, 27:54 Collegedale, Tennessee, 37315. 27:58 Call us at (423) 413-7321 28:02 or visit our website at Jesus4Asia.org. 28:05 May God richly bless you 28:06 until we see you again next time 28:08 on Jesus for Asia Now. |
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