Life On the Edge

State Of The Dead

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

Program transcript

Participants: Scott Moore (Host)


Series Code: LOE

Program Code: LOE000018

00:01 Harvest truly is plenteous,
00:03 but the laborers are few. Pray ye therefore,
00:05 the Lord of the harvest, that he will,
00:07 he will send forth laborers into his harvest.
00:10 Also, I heard the voice of the Lord saying,
00:13 "Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?"
00:17 Then said I, "Here am I, send me, send me".
00:23 Life on the Edge will enable you to be an
00:25 effective harvester for the Lord.
00:27 We now invite you into our
00:29 classroom to come, experience LIFE.
00:43 My friends, you have joined us here at the
00:45 Lay Institute for Evangelism.
00:47 We're located this year in Groveland, Florida.
00:51 And before a lady gives to us our
00:53 19th Bible Study on the state of the dead,
00:58 what we're going to do is we're gonna take
00:59 several minutes to go over a teaching tool.
01:03 One of the things that you will want to know
01:05 as you give Bible studies. We're gonna go over
01:09 if you look on the graphic that's on
01:10 your screen there, we're gonna go over
01:12 Gaining Decisions. Now you and I can gain
01:17 decisions by logic but that decision will not be
01:20 a decision that will last for eternity.
01:23 So what you and I need to do is we need to
01:25 have the key to gaining the decision.
01:28 So you notice the next graphic says,
01:30 the key to gaining a decision is...
01:35 My friend, what do you think the
01:36 key to gaining the decision is?
01:40 I was in Oregon doing an evangelistic meeting.
01:43 And Pastor Warner and I were visiting a
01:45 gentleman that had just been baptized.
01:49 He had left the church 40 years prior to then,
01:54 but had come to a series of evangelistic meetings
01:56 that we were holding and he made a decision to
01:59 be re-baptized. So Pastor Warner and I
02:03 went to his home. His name was Joe,
02:05 his wife's name was Marysol.
02:08 And so we went into the home of Marysol and Joe,
02:10 and Pastor Warner was sitting on the couch over
02:13 here with me and Joe was sitting over here in his
02:15 easy-chair. And Marysol was on that
02:18 side of the living room. And I remember sitting
02:21 down, just doing a little bit of chit-chat with
02:23 Joe and Marysol and then I asked Marysol,
02:25 I said Marysol, what Sabbath would
02:28 you like to become a Seventh-day Adventist?
02:32 Then Marysol was a Hispanic lady,
02:34 so I'm gonna do my best to mimic her accent.
02:36 She said, you think I need to be re-baptized?
02:42 And as I wanted to say absolutely Marysol.
02:46 That's what, that's what you
02:47 would wanted to say too, isn't it?
02:50 I mean, you learned in these series already,
02:52 that Sabbath keeping is very important to Jesus.
02:54 And she hadn't been keeping the Sabbath.
02:56 And so every answer of my being,
02:58 just wanted to say Marysol that's exactly right,
03:00 you need to be re-baptized.
03:02 But the spirit of God spoke to my heart,
03:04 right then. And God said to me,
03:07 Scott, did you say anything about baptism?
03:12 And to catch myself shaking my head no,
03:14 because your God is speaking with me,
03:17 did you say anything about baptism?
03:19 And I thought. No, I didn't say anything.
03:22 And so I looked at Marysol, and I said Marysol,
03:26 did you hear me say anything about baptism?
03:30 She said. No. I said, did Joe say anything
03:35 about baptism? No. Did Pastor Warner,
03:40 of course I was sitting over here.
03:41 I said, did Pastor Warner say anything
03:43 about baptism? No. I said Marysol,
03:47 it's very evident that someone is speaking to you.
03:52 And that someone cannot be seen.
03:55 She said, who do you think it is?
03:59 I said, Marysol, who do you think it is?
04:03 And then immediately she said,
04:05 and you have to forgive me again for mimicking
04:07 not mocking, but mimicking the accent,
04:09 I love accents. She said he beating me,
04:12 he is smoking, he drinking, he not even husband,
04:15 he no love me, he no love the children.
04:18 He needed to be re-baptized.
04:19 I don't need to be re-baptized.
04:23 I said Marysol, did I say anything about baptism?
04:30 No. Did Joe say anything about baptism?
04:35 No. Did Pastor Warner say, this is the second time
04:39 this has happened? And then I take my Bible,
04:42 and I go over there and I sit down beside Marysol.
04:44 Now Marysol has her Bible as well.
04:46 And so I opened my Bible to James Chapter 2.
04:49 So if you at home have your Bible go ahead and
04:51 go to James Chapter 2. You know that's right
04:54 after Hebrews, in the New Testament,
04:56 James Chapter 2 and verse 10.
05:00 And so, I asked Marysol to read for me
05:03 James Chapter 2 and verse 10.
05:05 And so she opened up her Bible.
05:07 She is very, very strong Christian lady.
05:10 She loves studying her Bible.
05:12 So she turned right to James Chapter 2
05:13 and she read this, she read,
05:16 for whosoever shall keep the whole law and yet
05:20 offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
05:26 And then Marysol began to weep.
05:29 She just began to weep and to sob and,
05:32 then of course I'm sitting next to her and I put
05:34 my hand on her shoulder and I said, Marysol,
05:40 are you all right? And she said for 40 years,
05:44 I never even had mentioned the Sabbath.
05:46 Never had to mention anything.
05:47 She said for 40 years I have not been keeping the
05:51 Sabbath and I'm just as guilty as my husband.
05:56 And then I said this my friend, I said,
05:57 Marysol which Sabbath would you like to become
06:03 a Seventh-day Adventist? And Marysol said,
06:08 I think next Sabbath. My friends,
06:13 as long as you and I will recognize that,
06:17 it is the spirit of God that is speaking to
06:21 people's hearts. When somebody asked
06:24 us that question, you and I we'll just wanna
06:25 get out our dukes and we'll just wanna say,
06:28 yes, you need to keep the Sabbath.
06:29 Yes, you need to do this, you need to do that.
06:31 But if we point people back to the spirit of God,
06:35 the one that has brought them under conviction.
06:38 Then they begin to argue with God rather than
06:43 then with us. So let's go to
06:44 our next slide there. The key to gaining a
06:47 decision is this, the key to gaining a
06:49 decision is conviction. So, now let's ask ourselves
06:53 this question, let's ask ourselves this question,
06:55 what is conviction? Now you and I've felt
07:00 conviction before, haven't we?
07:02 Sometimes it's not comfortable.
07:03 Yet sometimes were very elated about what God is
07:06 showing us. Conviction. Notice this,
07:09 notice the slide here, conviction is the
07:11 voice of God speaking to the conscience.
07:16 Conviction is the voice of God speaking to the
07:18 conscience. Have you ever been
07:20 in a situation where God was speaking to you?
07:26 Maybe you are headed to a place that you know you
07:28 shouldn't go to, and that voice in the
07:31 back of your mind keeps saying,
07:32 that's not something you want to do.
07:35 You want to stop right here and go a
07:37 different direction. Conviction is not always
07:40 comfortable, but it is always comfortable when
07:45 you and I listen to the voice of God.
07:48 It maybe very difficult for us to make that decision,
07:51 but we can make difficult decisions,
07:52 because we've had to make them in the past.
07:55 Let's go to our next slide here.
07:57 There are positive and negative indicators of
08:00 conviction. Now a positive indicator of conviction,
08:04 gives a positive response to conviction.
08:08 A negative indicator of conviction,
08:11 is simply a negative response to conviction.
08:16 Whether it's positive or whether it's negative
08:18 it is conviction. Now if you are giving
08:21 these Bible studies, if you give too little
08:23 information instead of someone being convicted,
08:26 they will be confused. So you wanna make sure
08:28 that the information has been there,
08:31 that will lead to conviction and then they will
08:34 have a desire in their hearts and they will want
08:37 to act on that desire. Information, conviction,
08:42 desire and action. So there are positive
08:46 indicators of conviction and negative
08:48 indicators of conviction. If the information has been
08:51 complete, then you have conviction not confusion.
08:56 So let's just take a look here on our screen at
08:58 some of those indicators of conviction.
09:01 You can see there on the left side of your screen.
09:04 The positive indicators, Joy, sharing with others,
09:07 personal application, tears, they can't stay away,
09:11 their face lights up, they become friendly,
09:14 they ask questions. On the right hand side
09:16 of the screen, in most cases you'll see
09:18 the opposite of that. Or a negative indicator
09:22 of conviction. So I'll just go right back
09:23 to the screen now and I'll read those negative
09:25 indicators of conviction. Instead of being happy,
09:27 they are sad. Instead of sharing with others
09:30 they reject it. Instead of applying it to
09:32 their lives in a personal way they begin to argue.
09:36 Instead of tears of joy, they have tears of sadness.
09:40 Instead of not being able to stay away,
09:43 they want to avoid you, and you can read the rest
09:45 of those on your screen there.
09:46 We'll go to the next slide. It even has more
09:48 indicators for both positive and
09:50 negative of conviction. They want to study more
09:53 or they refuse to study. They have a positive
09:56 attitude or they have a very negative attitude.
09:59 They want to change their life or they want to
10:02 rebel against what God has been teaching them.
10:05 Some people will have peace,
10:07 other people will have restlessness.
10:09 Some people will say I will pray about it,
10:11 others will just get irritated.
10:15 Now something you and I need to remember,
10:16 because the reason that we're doing this class is
10:18 to learn how to draw others to Christ.
10:22 What you and I need to remember is this,
10:24 we have this on the graphic here.
10:25 Let's read this together.
10:27 "The wind bloweth where it listeth,
10:29 "and thou hearest the sound thereof,
10:31 "but canst not tell whence it cometh,
10:33 "and whither it goeth. So is every one that is
10:36 born of the Spirit," John Chapter 3 verse 8.
10:40 So my friends just like you and I can't see the
10:43 wind blowing through the trees.
10:46 We can see the effects of the wind and we can't
10:49 see the spirit of God. But just like Marysol we
10:52 can notice that the person under conviction is
10:56 being moved by the wind of the spirit of God.
11:00 And this next quote is very powerful,
11:02 look at this with me. This is from the
11:03 Desire of Ages page 306. "While those who yield
11:07 "to the influence of the Holy Spirit begin war
11:10 "within themselves, those who cling to sin,
11:14 war against the truth and its representatives."
11:19 As you and I share Bible truth some people will
11:23 begin that battle on the inside and they will
11:26 give in to the guidance of the Spirit of God.
11:29 Some people will begin that battle on the outside
11:31 and they will begin to battle with you,
11:34 whatever the situation, as long as it's clear,
11:37 they are convicted. And now Eleida is going
11:40 to bring to us our Bible study.
11:45 Thank you Scott.
11:49 We're glad that you're here and that you've
11:50 joined us for our class today.
11:53 We're going to be teach, we're going to be
11:54 learning about the "State of the Dead."
11:57 As we mark the study in our Bible,
11:59 we're going to use the code SD.
12:02 The purpose of this study is to show that man
12:05 does not possess immortality.
12:07 Only God is immortal. Now we have learned how
12:11 it's important as we go through this study
12:13 is to center them in Christ. And to center this study
12:16 we're going to be using
12:17 1 John 5:12 where it says,
12:21 "He that hath the Son hath life;
12:24 "and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."
12:28 As we go through this study about death,
12:30 we're gonna have in mind that Jesus is life.
12:34 So the solution to this problem of death is right
12:37 there in Jesus. And if we have Him,
12:39 we have life. In this study,
12:43 we're going to be going through 15 texts.
12:46 The first ten texts are here on the screen and
12:50 the next five are on the next slide.
12:53 Here these texts you're going to make sure that
12:56 you have them placed somewhere,
12:57 either on the front of your Bible or
12:59 on the back of your Bible. So that you can reference
13:02 them anytime you're giving a Bible study on the
13:05 State of the Dead. Now the subject of death
13:09 has intrigued the minds of many throughout the ages.
13:13 The questions, what happens to a person
13:17 when they die? Do they go to heaven?
13:20 Do they go to hell? Can we talk to those
13:23 who have passed away? Are questions that are
13:27 in many's mind. In the search of answers
13:31 to these questions people have come up with
13:33 all sorts of answers. But is there a way that
13:39 we can find certain answers to these questions
13:44 of the mystery of death. Is there a place that
13:47 we can go and find certain answers to any
13:49 question we have? Yes. What is that place?
13:52 Bible. The Bible. We have learned
13:54 as we have studied the word of God that is the
13:56 only place that we can find pure, undefiled truths.
14:00 So as we are finding our answers
14:03 to the questions of life, whatever those
14:05 questions are, we know here we can find
14:07 certain answers. The Bible gives us
14:11 clear answers on the questions of the
14:14 mystery of death. And we're gonna be
14:16 looking at those but before we open this
14:20 study of the word of God, we wanna always make
14:24 sure that we pray and invite the Holy Spirit
14:26 to be with us as we study His word. Let's pray.
14:31 Dear Lord and heavenly Father,
14:32 we thank you for the privilege that you give us today
14:36 to be able to study your word.
14:39 As we seek for answers on the questions about the death,
14:45 we pray dear Lord that you give us clarity of mind,
14:48 that your spirit will lead us as we seek
14:50 these answers in your word and that it will
14:53 be clear to each of us. These things we
14:55 pray in the name of Jesus, our Lord and our redeemer,
14:58 amen, amen. Now to understand death,
15:02 we must first look at where life originated.
15:06 So we're gonna begin on the story of creation,
15:08 we're going to look first at Genesis Chapter 2,
15:13 and we're gonna be reading verse 7,
15:16 this is the very first text of our study
15:19 and as we have describing forward,
15:22 we mark this as we are going to write the text number
15:25 that we are on in the circle.
15:27 So it would be 1SD, is the code for this
15:29 particular study. Since we are in the beginning
15:33 of our study we do not put anything above the line,
15:36 that's where we would put the text that we just came from.
15:40 Below the line you will write the reference
15:42 of where you're going to and we'll be going to
15:45 Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 verse 7.
15:49 We are now in Genesis Chapter 2 verse 7,
15:54 Mike, can you read that for us?
15:59 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground,
16:01 and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
16:05 and man became a living soul.
16:07 Thank you, Mike. Here it's describing how
16:11 life even began. God created man out of what?
16:16 Out of the dust of the earth.
16:18 Now when He formed them, was he alive?
16:22 No. No. What did he have to do
16:25 for this body to become a living soul?
16:29 Breathe life into him. So we see that this body when it
16:34 receive the breath of life then he became a living soul.
16:38 And we see this equation on the screen,
16:42 the dust (body) + Breath of the spirit =
16:47 A living soul or a living being.
16:50 We see that God formed the man and he gives
16:53 it breath and then gives that spirit
16:56 and then he becomes a living soul.
17:00 Now as we are understanding the death itself,
17:04 this becomes very important and we're gonna see
17:06 the next few verses what the Bible says about death.
17:09 And we're gonna see how it actually represents the
17:13 opposite of what life is. The first verse that
17:17 we're going to look at is
17:18 Ecclesiastes Chapter 2 verse 7,
17:21 Ecclesiastes 2 verse 7,
17:27 and 12 verse 7, I'm sorry.
17:31 You're correct. It's Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 verse 7,
17:35 this is the second text of our study.
17:38 So at the end of this reference you're going
17:39 to be writing 2SD. We just came from
17:43 Genesis chapter 2 verse 7, and we'll be going to
17:47 Psalms 104 verses 29 and 30.
17:51 We are in Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 verse 7,
17:57 Darlene, could you read that for us?
17:59 Then the dust will return to the earth as it was:
18:02 and the spirit will return to God who gave it.
18:07 Thank you Darlene. Here it's talking about death,
18:12 it says that the dust returns, where?
18:15 To the earth. You know in this story of creation,
18:23 we saw how God picked up that dust from the earth
18:24 and formed the man. Now he is saying that goes
18:26 back to the earth. And then it,
18:27 what it says about the spirit.
18:29 It goes back to God who gave it.
18:34 We saw when life originated a man that God
18:38 actually put this breath of life in it and he was alive.
18:42 Now, talking about death, it shows how that dust goes
18:47 back to where it came from on the earth and the spirit
18:50 or the breath of life goes back to God who gave it.
18:54 Now we're going to see this a little bit more clearer
18:56 as we see a few more verses,
18:58 we're gonna look at Psalms Chapter 104 and
19:02 verse 29 and 30. That Psalm 104 verse 29 and 30.
19:12 This is the third text of our study,
19:14 so you're gonna mark it as it shows on the screen, 3SD.
19:19 We just came from
19:20 Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 verse 7
19:24 and we're going to be going to
19:26 James Chapter 2 verse 26. We're reading now from
19:32 Psalm 104 and Chapter 29, I mean verse 29 and 30.
19:40 Shalita, can you read that for us, please.
19:43 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled:
19:47 thou takest away their breath, they die,
19:49 and return to their dust.
19:52 Thou sendest forth thy spirit,
19:53 they are created: and thou renewest the
19:58 face of the earth. Thank you Shalita.
20:01 Now here what does it say happens when he takes
20:04 away the breath. It dies.
20:07 So if he takes away their breath and it dies
20:09 and returns to the dust. Again we see the opposite
20:14 of what happen in the creation.
20:17 God put the breath of life in the man
20:20 and he became a living soul. Now when He takes it
20:23 away he dies and returns to dust.
20:28 Now let's look at one more verse that talks about
20:30 this in James Chapter 2 verse 26,
20:34 we're going to be going to James Chapter 2 verse 26,
20:37 to understand a little bit more about how life,
20:41 how death is described in the Bible.
20:43 James chapter 2 verse 26. And this is the
20:49 fourth text on our study; you're going to write
20:53 at the end, this reference
20:54 as it shows on the screen. 4SD in the circle,
20:58 above the line you're gonna write Psalm 104:29 and 30
21:02 that's where we came from. And we'll be going to
21:05 John Chapter 11 verses 11 through 14.
21:10 We are reading now from James Chapter 2 verse 26,
21:17 Vanessa, could you read that for us?
21:19 For as the body without the spirit is dead,
21:22 so faith without works is dead also.
21:25 Thank you. Now here again it's
21:27 talking about the body and the spirit.
21:30 And when the spirit is not there,
21:31 what happens to the body? It's dead.
21:35 The body is dead. The word here for spirit
21:39 in its original language means current of air,
21:44 which is breath. And throughout the Bible
21:46 this word sometimes it's translated as spirits,
21:50 sometimes it's translated as breath.
21:53 But it's talking about that same thing.
21:55 So here we know that when that spirit is gone
21:58 then the body is dead. We're gonna look at,
22:04 if you look at the screen you see this equation,
22:07 which is the opposite of the one we saw when we
22:09 were talking about life. Here living soul minus
22:14 that breath of life or that spirit equals
22:17 Dust or Death. The living soul once you take
22:21 take away the breath of life becomes a dust or dead person.
22:31 We are going to be looking now at a few verses
22:35 in the Bible which describes the state of a person
22:38 when they are dead. It's gonna describe what a
22:41 person is going through, what's happening to this
22:43 person once the person's spirit or
22:46 breath of life is gone. The first verse that we
22:50 are going to look at is found in
22:52 John chapter 11 verses 11 through 14.
22:56 John 11 verses 11 through 14.
23:01 This is the 5th text in our study,
23:05 you are going to mark it as it
23:07 shows it on the screen 5SD. We just came from James 2:26
23:13 so that goes above the line and we will be going to
23:16 Ecclesiastes Chapter 9 verses 5 and 6.
23:22 We are in John Chapter 11 verses 11 through 14.
23:28 Tom, can you read that for us please?
23:32 These things he said, and after that
23:34 he saith to them, Our friend Lazarus sleeps;
23:38 but I go, that I may awake him up.
23:42 Then his disciples said, Lord, if he sleeps,
23:44 he will get well. However Jesus spoke
23:47 of His death: but they thought that
23:50 he was speaking about taking rest in sleep.
23:54 Then Jesus said to them plainly,
23:55 Lazarus is dead. Thank you Tom.
24:00 Now here Jesus is talking about his friend Lazarus
24:02 and he had just died. How does Jesus refers to
24:07 Lazarus who is dead? As sleeping.
24:11 Now His disciples, at first were a
24:13 little confused because they thought that
24:15 he was talking about he's actually just resting.
24:18 But Jesus here is speaking about death
24:23 There is actually more than 50 references in the Bible
24:27 where the dead, that where dead is
24:30 referred as sleep. We're gonna see more things
24:34 that the Bible says about the state of person who is dead.
24:38 We know they are in a state of sleep, or rest.
24:41 Let's look at Ecclesiastes Chapter 9
24:44 and we're gonna be reading verses 5 and 6.
24:47 Ecclesiastes Chapter 9 verses 5 and 6.
24:56 This is the sixth text in the study
24:59 and you're going to mark it, shows on the screen 6SD.
25:05 We just came from John Chapter 11, 11-14
25:10 and we are going to be going to Psalm 146
25:14 and we're gonna read verse 4.
25:15 We're in Ecclesiastes 9, verse 5 and 6.
25:24 Desjong, can you read that for us please?
25:27 For the living know that they shall die:
25:29 but the dead know not anything,
25:31 neither have they any more of a reward;
25:34 for the memory of them is forgotten.
25:37 Also their love, and their hatred,
25:39 and their envy, is now perished;
25:43 neither have they any more a portion forever
25:46 in anything that is done under the sun.
25:49 Thank you Desjong. Now here we see
25:52 another description of the state of a person
25:56 who is dead. And is talking about
26:01 their memory what happens to the memory of a person
26:02 whose dead? It's gone. No more memory, it is gone.
26:06 Now it talks also about their emotions,
26:08 their anger, their love, their hatred, their envy,
26:11 what happens with those emotions?
26:13 They're gone also. No motions, no memory,
26:19 they have ceased to exist. Now we're going to look at
26:23 another verse that describes the state of a dead person
26:26 in Psalms 146 verse 4. Psalm 146 verse 4,
26:34 so far we have seen that the Bible refers as dead
26:38 as someone who is asleep. And we see that this person
26:42 no longer has memory of their lives
26:46 and their motions are gone. We are now in
26:49 Psalms 146 verse 4, you go into Mark this text
26:54 as shown on the screen. This is the seventh text
26:57 of our study, you're gonna write 7SD.
27:01 We just came from Ecclesiastes 9 verses 5 and 6.
27:05 And we will be going to Revelation chapter 4 verse 13.
27:11 We are at Psalms 146, verse 4.
27:15 Well Brett, can you read that for us please?
27:18 His spirit departs, he return to his earth;
27:23 in that very day his plans perish.
27:28 Thank you. What this tells us about
27:30 the person who's dead? Their thoughts perish,
27:34 their plans are perished. So far what has the
27:38 Bible told us the state of a person who's dead?
27:42 They are asleep. What else?
27:45 They don't know anything. What else?
27:49 Their feelings and emotions are gone and here tells us
27:53 that their thoughts or plans are also gone.
27:57 We're gonna see one more verse that just
28:00 describes the state of being dead,
28:02 a person who is dead. Revelations 14 and 13.
28:06 Let's see what it tells us about the state of
28:09 someone who is dead. Revelation Chapter 13,
28:14 I mean Chapter 14 verse 13.
28:17 This is the eighth text on this study.
28:20 You're gonna mark at the end of this reference
28:22 as it shows on the screen 8SD.
28:27 We just came from Psalm 146 verse 4 and we will be going to
28:31 Ezekiel Chapter 18 verse 4. We are reading
28:35 Revelations 14 verse 13.
28:39 Ryan, can you read that for us?
28:41 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me,
28:44 Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord
28:48 from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit,
28:51 they may rest from their labors;
28:52 and their works do follow them.
28:55 Thank you Ryan.
28:56 Now here's talking about those,
28:59 it's talking about the ones that are righteous.
29:02 And how does it describe them as?
29:08 They are doing what? Resting.
29:11 They are resting from their works.
29:13 They are resting from their works.
29:15 We have seen the Bible describes death as a sleep.
29:20 Once a man dies their thoughts have perished,
29:24 their emotions are gone, their plans are gone,
29:29 they are resting in a state of rest.
29:31 Their lives have ceased to exist.
29:36 Then what about this idea of the soul being immortal,
29:39 is that's something that the Bible teaches.
29:44 We're going to see what the Bible truly teaches about the
29:47 soul and its immortality. In Ezekiel Chapter 18 verse 4,
29:53 Ezekiel Chapter 18 verse 4. Now we're looking at verse 4,
30:01 this is the 9th text in our study,
30:03 you will mark it as it shows on the screen, 9SD.
30:08 We just came from Revelation Chapter 14 verse 13.
30:13 We will be going to First Timothy Chapter 6
30:16 verse 15 and 16. We're reading from
30:21 Ezekiel Chapter 18 and we're reading verse 4,
30:27 Anita, can you read that for us?
30:30 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father,
30:35 so also the soul of the son is mine:
30:38 the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
30:43 Thank you Anita. What does it say here
30:45 about the soul that sinneth? It will die.
30:50 It will die.
30:52 Now is there any human being that has not sinned?
30:58 No. The Bible said is that every one has sinned
31:01 and come short of the glory of God.
31:04 So then can we say that any of our souls are immortal?
31:08 No, not according to this verse,
31:10 because this verse says if the soul has sinned, it dies.
31:13 So the Bible does not teach that soul is immortal.
31:17 We see here that the soul can die.
31:20 Now we're going to see that the Bible actually teaches
31:25 that there is only one who is immortal.
31:29 And we're going to see that in
31:30 First Timothy Chapter 6 verse 15 and 16,
31:36 First Timothy Chapter 6 verse 15 and 16.
31:41 Here it's going to show us the only one who is immortal.
31:46 This is the 10th text in our study.
31:49 We're going to mark a 10SD. We just came from
31:52 Ezekiel Chapter 18 verse 4 that goes above the line,
31:58 and we'll be going to Job 21 verse 32.
32:03 We're in First Timothy Chapter 6 and verse 15 and 16.
32:12 Gloria, could you read that for us please.
32:16 Right, lets see. Excuse me.
32:20 Which He will manifest in His own time,
32:23 He who is the blessed and only Potentate,
32:27 the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
32:32 Who alone has the immortality,
32:35 dwelling in unapproachable light,
32:38 whom no man has seen or can see,
32:42 to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.
32:49 Amen, thank you Gloria. Now according to this text,
32:53 who is the only one who has immortality?
32:58 God, God is the only one who is immortal.
33:01 Then where do the dead go when they die,
33:08 where do the dead go when they die?
33:09 We're going to look at Job Chapter 21 verse 32,
33:13 Job chapter 21 verse 32. Seeking to find the
33:18 answer of where people go when they die.
33:23 Job 21 verse 32, this is a 11th text of our study,
33:29 and you're gonna mark it as it shows on the screen, 11SD.
33:34 We just came from First Timothy Chapter 6
33:36 verse 15 and 16. And we'll be going to
33:40 Acts Chapter 2 verse 29 and 34.
33:44 We're now on Job 21 verse 32.
33:50 Jessica, could you read that for us.
33:53 Ye, he shall be brought to the grave,
33:55 And a vigil kept over the tomb.
33:59 Thank you. Now, here talking about the dead.
34:02 It says he shall be brought to where?
34:05 To the grave. And in the King James Version
34:07 it says, Yet shall be brought to the grave,
34:10 and shall remain in his tomb. So not only does it say
34:14 it will go to the grave, but it says that
34:16 it will remain there. So, the dead when they die,
34:21 a person when they die, they just go to the tomb
34:23 and remain there. Now does that mean that
34:27 a good person when they die, they don't just go to heaven.
34:31 Wait, when we look at the Bible,
34:33 the Bible teaches us, and we see clearly there
34:36 that David was saved, and yet we're going to see in
34:41 the Bible what it says about David,
34:42 to see if David actually went to heaven.
34:44 And this is going to help us answer the question.
34:46 If a person is good when they die,
34:49 do they go to heaven? This is found in
34:52 Acts Chapter 2 verse 29 and verse 34,
34:57 Acts Chapter 2 verse 29 and verse 34.
35:01 We're going to look to see what does it say about
35:06 those who are saved, do they go to heaven?
35:11 This is our 12th text in our study.
35:14 You are going to mark as 12SD, we just came from
35:17 Job 21 verse 32, and we'll be going to
35:21 First Corinthians Chapter 15 verse 51-53.
35:27 Acts chapter 2:29 through 34, Acts chapter 2,
35:33 no not through 34, I'm sorry,
35:34 you are gonna read verse 29 and verse 34.
35:39 Tim, can you read that for us.
35:42 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you
35:46 of the Patriarch David,
35:48 that he is both dead and buried,
35:49 and his sepulcher is with us unto this day.
35:54 For David is not ascended into the heavens:
35:58 but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord,
36:01 Sit thou on my right hand.
36:05 Thank you Tim. What does it say,
36:07 here about David, where does the Bible
36:10 say that he is? He is buried,
36:15 he is buried, he is buried.
36:16 He says he is both dead and buried.
36:18 And then in verse 34 even clarifies that he has not
36:23 ascended to heaven. Now we can see clearly
36:27 here that David even though he is saved when he died,
36:30 he just went to the grave, he is not in heaven,
36:35 and that's what the Bible tells us.
36:38 We've learned that the Bible describes death as a sleep,
36:43 that a man when he dies, his thoughts,
36:46 his feelings, his plans, they all perish.
36:51 The Bible describes that as a rest.
36:56 That the one that dies goes to the grave
36:58 and he remains there, even though who are saved,
37:01 they do not go to heaven, they remain in the grave.
37:05 Then the question remains when is it that though the
37:11 people of God will receive immortality.
37:14 And we're going to look at that answer in
37:16 First Corinthians Chapter 15 verses 51 through 53,
37:21 First Corinthians Chapter 15 verses 51 through 53.
37:27 This is the 13th text of our study.
37:31 We're going to mark it as you see it on the screen 13SD.
37:37 We just came from Acts Chapter 2 verse 29 and 34,
37:41 and after this we'll be going to be going to
37:43 First Thessalonians Chapter 4 verses 14 through 17.
37:50 We're on First Corinthians Chapter 15.
37:53 We'll be gonna be reading verses 51 through 53.
37:58 Danielle, can you read that for us.
38:00 Behold, I show you a mystery: We shall not all asleep,
38:04 but we shall all be changed in a moment,
38:07 in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump:
38:10 for the trumpet shall sound,
38:12 and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
38:14 and we shall be changed. For this corruptible
38:17 must put on incorruption,
38:19 and this mortal must put on immortality.
38:23 Thank you Danielle. Now here it begins by saying
38:27 that he is going to show us something,
38:32 what is that it talks about? That he is going to show,
38:33 a mystery. Mystery, now this the State of the Dead
38:37 seems to be a mystery to many. People are wondering exactly
38:42 what happens to a person when they die,
38:44 and many people come up with the wrong conclusions.
38:48 So, here the Bible says is, I'm going to show you
38:50 this mystery. And it says that
38:55 talking about those who are dead,
38:57 it describes them as sleep. He says we shall not all sleep,
39:01 but we shall be changed, so we're going to
39:05 receive that change. He says in a moment,
39:07 in a twinkle of an eye in the last trump.
39:10 What is it referring to here? Christ's second coming,
39:16 Christ's second coming.
39:17 So here in Christ's second coming,
39:19 he says that corruptible must put on incorruption,
39:23 and this body that we already, we already saw the Bible says
39:28 is mortal will become immortal, immortal.
39:33 And we're gonna see even more clear in
39:35 First Thessalonians Chapter 4,
39:36 First Thessalonians Chapter 4 verses 14 through 17,
39:43 First Thessalonians chapter 4 verses 14 through 17.
39:48 This is the 14th text of our study,
39:51 which you are going to mark it as it shows
39:53 on the screen, 14SD. We just came from
39:56 First Corinthians 15 verses 51 through 53,
40:00 and we're gonna be going to
40:02 First John Chapter 5 verses 11 through 13.
40:07 We're on First Thessalonians Chapter 4
40:11 verses 14 through 17.
40:15 Bill, can you read that for us.
40:17 For if we believe that Jesus died and rouse again,
40:20 even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
40:24 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord,
40:27 that we who are alive and remain until
40:29 the coming of the Lord will by no means precede
40:32 those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will
40:35 descend from heaven with a shout,
40:37 with the voice of an archangel,
40:38 and with the trumpet of God.
40:40 And the dead in Christ will rise first.
40:43 Then those who are alive and remain shall be caught up
40:46 together with them in the clouds
40:48 to meet the Lord in the air.
40:49 And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
40:53 Thank you Bill. Now here describing
40:55 the second coming, a beautiful scene,
40:58 it's talking that. First it describes Jesus
41:00 talking about it says, describes it as sleep again.
41:04 He sees even so then, also which sleep in Jesus
41:07 will God bring with him. He now says for this way,
41:12 for this we say unto you by the word of the Lord.
41:17 This is what the word of God says.
41:20 What happens to those who are alive and remain?
41:29 We will not precede the ones that were asleep,
41:33 so that means those who went to sleep,
41:35 who die are now still there, they are sleeping.
41:38 It says now for the Lord himself shall descend from
41:41 heaven with a shout, its all clear when He comes
41:44 the second time, and they are again
41:47 mentions the trump light, we read in First Corinthians
41:50 and then it says that we who are alive,
41:54 and remain will be caught up together with those
41:57 who were raised, and we will go together
42:01 to heaven, together to heaven.
42:04 Here it goes step by step of what happens when Jesus comes,
42:08 and it shows us that those who have died in Christ,
42:12 it says those who sleep in Jesus,
42:15 they're not in heaven, they will be resurrected
42:19 in the second coming. And they will be caught up
42:23 with us together in the clouds,
42:26 and we will together go to spend eternity with God.
42:32 The Bible is clear on the state of a person who is dead.
42:38 The Bible shows us that God created man,
42:43 it put the breath of life in man,
42:46 and man became a living soul. And so when that breath or
42:51 that Spirit is taken away, then man dies.
42:56 We saw that when a man dies, then his thoughts are gone,
43:01 his feelings are gone, his plans gone.
43:06 The person has ceased to exist.
43:10 And the Bible describes this as sleep,
43:14 or a state of rest. They're resting,
43:18 waiting for the second coming. And on the second coming,
43:24 those who are resting in Jesus will be resurrected,
43:29 and those who have remained or alive,
43:32 will be caught up together and together the Bible says
43:36 together we shall go to heaven.
43:39 We shall go to heaven together. Let's look at
43:42 First John Chapter 5 verses 11 through 13,
43:48 First John Chapter 5 verses 11 through 13.
43:52 As we think about this beautiful day,
43:55 the scene that we just saw of Jesus coming again,
43:59 we're going to see the promise as given to us in
44:02 First John Chapter 5 11 through 13.
44:05 This is the 15th text of our study.
44:08 You are going to mark it on your Bible,
44:10 as it shows on the screen, 15SD.
44:13 We just came from First Thessalonians Chapter 4
44:16 verses 14 through 17.
44:18 And this is the last text of our study,
44:21 so you are going to put end at the bottom of that line.
44:25 We're in First John Chapter 5 verses 11 through 13.
44:32 Mike, can you read that for us.
44:35 And this is the record that God hath
44:37 given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
44:40 He that hath the Son hath life;
44:42 and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
44:47 These things have I written unto you that believe
44:49 on the name of the Son of God;
44:51 that ye may know that ye have eternal life,
44:53 and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
44:57 Thank you Mike. Now, here it gives us a
45:00 record that God has given us what?
45:04 Eternal life. Where is this life?
45:08 In His son Jesus, in His son Jesus.
45:12 So, if we have His son, we can have this eternal life.
45:17 Now why is John writing this here?
45:22 It says so that we can believe,
45:23 he says that you will know that you eternal life,
45:25 and you will believe, so that we may believe
45:28 on the name of the son of God.
45:31 The Bible makes it clear, that only God is immortal.
45:37 Eternal life is found in Jesus,
45:41 and only by receiving Him can we receive immortality.
45:47 It says your desire to receive the life
45:51 that Jesus offers. Amen. That's my desire too.
45:58 You know when He comes that second time,
46:00 and we receive that body, the immortal body and
46:05 everything that He has for us,
46:06 we're going to be so grateful, and there is nothing
46:10 that you have gone through on this life,
46:15 nothing that will seem like a big thing.
46:18 Everything will look small compared
46:20 to what He has for us, life eternal, life eternal.
46:25 Let us pray. Dear Lord, and Heavenly Father,
46:28 we thank you that You have given us answers,
46:32 clear answers from Your word, on what happens to a person
46:36 when they die. And we thank you Lord
46:39 that we do not have to just think about death
46:44 as the end of a person's life, but that we've been promised
46:47 more beyond the grave. We thank you Lord that
46:51 You have made it possible for us to receive salvation,
46:54 to receive life eternal to Jesus, Your son.
46:59 And Lord today we all desire to have that eternal life,
47:04 and we want to receive Jesus in our hearts.
47:07 And I pray dear Lord, that You help us to do our part Lord,
47:10 that we will be able to receive Him,
47:13 and to keep Him in our lives,
47:15 this is our prayer in Jesus name, amen, Amen.
47:20 Now we're gonna go over a text that seems to pop up
47:24 every time this study is done.
47:26 It's a text that some people are confused about,
47:29 and found in Luke Chapter 23 verse 42 and 43.
47:37 And this verse says "Today you will be with Me in Paradise."
47:42 Jesus talking to the one that was next to Him on the cross,
47:48 He promised him to be in Paradise.
47:51 And now because of the way He has word it,
47:53 people think well if He is going to be that same day in
47:55 Paradise with Him. He is promising him that
47:57 He die and goes straight to heaven.
48:00 But we saw in the study that's,
48:01 that's not what the Bible teaches,
48:03 so we're gonna see what is the misconception on this.
48:06 We know the Bible will not contradict itself,
48:08 so we've to look carefully at this text to see why it
48:12 seems to say this. We're in
48:15 Luke chapter 23 verse 42 and verse 43.
48:24 I'm sorry, let me get there myself,
48:26 chapter 23 verse 42 and 43. And it says,
48:31 and he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou
48:36 comest into thy kingdom. Now this man has recognized
48:39 Jesus to be the Savior,
48:41 in his very last moments in life,
48:45 and he has chosen to receive Jesus.
48:48 And because he chose to receive Jesus,
48:50 we saw how the Bible says that,
48:51 if you receive Jesus, you receive life eternal.
48:53 So, because he chose to receive Jesus,
48:56 Jesus answers. And Jesus said unto him,
48:58 Verily I say unto thee,
49:02 shalt thou be with me in Paradise,
49:08 thou shall be with me in Paradise.
49:10 Jesus is making a promise to this man, right here.
49:14 Now we saw through the Bible study which we went through,
49:19 that the Bible teaches that people do not go straight
49:22 to heaven, so why is Jesus promising
49:25 here that today in that same day,
49:27 He will be in Paradise with him.
49:30 Now we're going to see, we're going to keep reading
49:32 a little bit more in this same story to see exactly
49:36 what's happening here. Now if you go down to
49:39 verse 54, its says,
49:41 And that day was the preparation,
49:44 and the Sabbath drew on. This is the day that Jesus
49:47 died on the cross, preparation which is what day?
49:50 Friday, so Jesus died on Friday on the preparation day,
49:55 continuing on verse 55. And the women also which
50:00 came with him from Galilee, followed after,
50:03 and beheld the sepulcher and how his body was laid.
50:09 And they returned, and prepared spices
50:11 and ointments; and rested in the
50:13 Sabbath day according to the commandment.
50:15 So, He died on the Friday,
50:17 they rested the following day, and now lets look at
50:20 verse 1 on Chapter 24, it says now upon the
50:23 first day of the week, what day is that?
50:25 Sunday, so now as the day has passed in
50:29 between and a Sunday,
50:32 now upon the first day of the week,
50:34 very early in the morning they came unto the sepulcher,
50:38 bringing the spices which they had prepared and so
50:41 in others with them. So, we see Jesus die
50:44 on Friday, and Sunday this is happening.
50:46 Now we're going to continue seeing a little bit more about
50:49 what happens on this day, Luke Chapter 23,
50:54 I mean John Chapter 20 verse 16 and 17,
50:59 John Chapter 20 verse 16 and 17.
51:09 We left it where it was Sunday,
51:12 He had died on Friday, and this is Sunday.
51:17 The woman had prepared the spices, it is Sunday.
51:21 We're in Chapter 20 verse 16 and 17.
51:29 Actually list our, I'm gonna read verse 1,
51:32 it says, the first day of the week cometh
51:34 Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark,
51:38 unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away
51:42 from the sepulcher. So, here its just establishing
51:45 that again that is the first day of the week.
51:48 Then going down, we're gonna read starting from
51:51 verse 11. It says:
51:53 But Mary stood without at the sepulcher weeping:
51:58 and as she wept, she stooped down,
52:01 and looked into the sepulcher.
52:03 And seeth two angels in white sitting,
52:07 the one at the head, and the other at the feet,
52:11 where the body of Jesus had lain.
52:14 And they say unto her, Woman,
52:17 why weepest thou? She saith unto them,
52:19 Because they have taken away my Lord,
52:23 and I know not where they have laid him.
52:27 And when she had thus said, she returned herself back,
52:31 and saw who, Jesus standing,
52:34 and knew not that it was Jesus.
52:37 And Jesus saith unto her, Woman, why weepest thou?
52:41 Whom seekest thou? She, supposing
52:45 him to be the gardener, saith unto him,
52:47 Sir, if thou have borne him hence,
52:51 tell me where thou hast laid him,
52:53 and I will take him away. Now Jesus says unto her,
52:58 Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him,
53:02 Rabboni; which is to say Master.
53:06 So, at this point you recognizes
53:08 who she is talking to.
53:10 And Jesus says unto her, Touch me not;
53:14 for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
53:19 but go to my brethren, and say unto them,
53:22 I ascend unto my Father, and your Father;
53:26 and to my God, and your God.
53:29 Now this is Sunday, Jesus died on Friday,
53:33 the women rested on the Sabbath,
53:36 and came back on Sunday,
53:37 here is Mary looking for Jesus,
53:40 weeping because she can't find Him,
53:41 and Jesus tells her not to touch Him why?
53:48 He has not ascended on to heaven.
53:51 Now Jesus promised that man on the cross
53:55 that He that day would be with him in Paradise,
54:00 and Jesus has not gone onto heaven yet,
54:04 what does that make Jesus?
54:09 A liar. Now we know that
54:13 Jesus cannot lie, so there has to be something
54:16 here that is leading us to misunderstand this passage.
54:21 So, we're gonna back to the passage in
54:23 Luke 23 verses 42 and 43. When these passages were
54:33 written in the original, there is no punctuation.
54:38 The punctuation was put later.
54:41 Now if you see that same statement that Jesus said,
54:46 I say to you today you will be with me in Paradise.
54:51 If you look at the screen, the top portion is how
54:54 it's written on the Bible. "I say to you,
54:58 today you will be with Me in Paradise."
55:01 This is a comma that was added afterwards.
55:05 The people who were working with this
55:08 and added those punctuations, thought it to go best there.
55:12 But if we move that comma after today, then it will say,
55:15 "I say to you today you will be with Me in Paradise."
55:21 Now because we know that He did not go that same day,
55:26 then we know He could not have meant that today
55:30 He was going to be in heaven with him.
55:33 We know the Bible shows us that,
55:34 so then we can safely say that the comma
55:37 was just in the wrong place. If we just move the comma
55:40 then it will say, Jesus is just making a point,
55:46 and showing us something important today I tell you.
55:51 And usually we use phrases like that or words like this
55:55 to emphasize what we're about to say.
55:58 Jesus wanted this man who had lived a sinful life to have
56:03 certainty that his sins had been forgiven.
56:08 This man, he was in the last moments of his life.
56:11 He had lived a sinful life,
56:12 he knew that he deserved death.
56:17 But at that last moment he recognized Jesus as the Savior
56:22 and he received Him. And the Bible says
56:25 Jesus has life eternal, and if we receive Him,
56:29 we shall be saved. So, this man as he receive Jesus,
56:32 he received life eternal.
56:33 Jesus was just assuring him of that.
56:36 Anytime we find ourselves in something
56:41 in the Bible where we're confused,
56:43 or not understanding, it seems like a contradicts,
56:46 we need to spend time really trying to see
56:49 what the Bible is saying, and because we found evidences
56:53 that He was not there on that day,
56:55 then we look at what else could be there that
56:58 could be wrong. We don't know where the commas
57:00 or the punctuations would have gone.
57:03 These people just put it where it make more sense to them.
57:07 So, it is only because of the evidences that we have,
57:12 we can conclude that the comma was just in the wrong place,
57:14 and this is something that just clarifies the whole idea of
57:18 Jesus promising a man to be in heaven right after he died,
57:24 when the Bible clearly teaches that this is not so.
57:28 Does that make it clear?
57:32 Thank you very much,
57:33 we thank you for joining us in our study.
57:35 We're going to continue to do more studies on the
57:39 different teachings of the Bible,
57:41 and we want you to join us, so, please keep us in mind,
57:44 and join us next time.


Revised 2014-12-17