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Series Code: LTBW
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00:35 Hi, I'm Dr. Kim.
00:37 And welcome to, Live To Be Well. 00:40 Well, what comes to mind when you think about patience? 00:43 Job had patience. 00:45 Do you have the patience to endure 00:48 trials and tribulations that come your way? 00:50 What about the patience of being a single father 00:54 and raising three children? 00:57 Well today my special guest is Stephen Tibbets. 01:00 Welcome Steve, how you doing? 01:02 I'm good, thank you. 01:03 Thank you so much for coming on Live To Be Well. 01:05 Thank you for having me. 01:06 Well listen, let's go back a little bit about 01:08 how you came to meet me. 01:10 Alright, a friend of yours recommended me for counseling. 01:14 And you were having some challenges with your children. 01:18 Let's talk about your children and what has happened 01:22 in their lives over the last 10 or 15 years. 01:28 Where do want to begin? 01:29 Let's begin with their relationship with their mother. 01:32 Okay, me and their mother were together, we were together 01:35 maybe 7 or 8 years. 01:41 Were you married? 01:42 - No we weren't married. - Okay. 01:45 We were young, just doing silly things. 01:48 But then we had my oldest son, Tyberius. 01:52 And once that happened, you know, 01:54 I had to stop doing silly things and be responsible. 01:58 Because at that point in time I'm responsible 02:00 for another person. 02:02 And as time went on we kind of drifted apart. 02:07 She still wanted to kind of do the party scene, 02:10 and she felt like she was missing out on her life 02:14 by not being childless and couldn't go out anymore. 02:19 So I mean, we kind of took different directions. 02:22 But yet we still had two more children after that. 02:26 So I stayed mainly because I had grew up without a father. 02:32 So one thing I wanted to do was, when I did have children 02:35 I wanted to make sure that my kids had their mother 02:38 and their father in their life. 02:39 That it was a two parent household. 02:43 So I mean, a lot of times I always say 02:45 I should have left sooner. 02:47 But if I would have left sooner, I still wouldn't 02:48 have had my other two children, so. 02:51 And you have no regrets with all three of your children. 02:53 No, no. 02:55 They get on my nerves, but. 02:56 I know, and I've seen you with your children. 02:58 So after that, how did it come to be that you received 03:03 physical custody of your children? 03:05 Uh, I don't know. It was just a blessing. 03:07 Everybody was telling me to get a lawyer. 03:09 Like, I'm just going to tell the truth. 03:10 Because most men do not have, I'm not saying the time 03:14 or the desire, but to take on three children, small children, 03:19 as a single father, you know. 03:21 Why did you want the physical custody of the children? 03:25 Well again, for me it was most important 03:27 that I stay in their life. 03:29 And so again, by me not having a father, 03:34 I knew exactly what I wanted to give to my children. 03:37 Didn't you believe it was important for their 03:38 mother to be in their lives and for their mother to raise them? 03:41 Have a mom? 03:42 I did fell that was important, but for me and the way that we 03:46 kind of drifted apart, and the scene she was in 03:49 and the scene that I was trying to take over from, 03:52 it just wasn't a good fit. 03:54 Alright, and you knew you would be a better 03:55 parent for the children. 03:57 - Yes. - Alright. 03:58 So you have two sons and a daughter. 04:00 How has that been raising them since really birth, 04:04 now that they're early teens? 04:06 And you recently had your oldest son graduate from high school. 04:10 And let's talk about the challenges there. 04:13 Getting him through high school. 04:15 Well with him, there was a lot of anxiety with him growing up. 04:19 So we had went through different counselors and everything. 04:22 And he was diagnosed with, what was it, ADD; inattentive type. 04:27 So that was a challenge also. 04:29 Where we just try to keep motivating him, 04:32 keep positive words going to him. 04:34 So he eventually got through it. 04:36 It was a challenge though, but he made it. 04:39 Yeah, I'm so excited because when I saw the pictures 04:41 of him crossing the stage, I was so happy. 04:44 Because when he first came to me for therapy, 04:47 he was reserved, he was pulled back, 04:49 he would tend to isolate himself. 04:51 And then he would, like, "I need my time. 04:53 I need my therapy session." You know. 04:55 And he still is in touch with me. 04:57 Because he's working in Ohio. And it's a blessing. 05:01 Let's talk about your daughter. 05:03 Your relationship with your daughter. 05:05 Oh, my relationship with my daughter is solid. 05:08 Even though she doesn't always feel that way. 05:10 She doesn't feel that way? 05:11 - Yeah. - Okay. 05:12 Because she's semi-spoiled. 05:15 So if I don't give her the attention that she 05:17 feels she deserves, she'll cop a little attitude. 05:22 Do you feel that you're a good parent? 05:24 Do you play with your children? 05:25 Do you engage with them? 05:28 Do you help them with their homework? 05:29 Are you a good parent? 05:32 I mean, I try. 05:33 Like, when you asked me to do this, I was kind of confused. 05:35 I was honored, I was blessed, but I was, like, 05:38 I don't know what's so special about myself. 05:41 I'm just trying to do the best I can. 05:44 Well I think, the reason why I asked you to do this 05:46 is because I see you engaging with your children. 05:49 I remember when your daughter wanted 05:52 to go stay with her mother. 05:54 And you called me or you texted me and said, 05:56 "Dr. Logan, I'm going to write up a contract. 05:58 And I'm going to be ready for this session." 06:01 Now she cannot wiggle out of this, her mom. 06:04 So you're going to take her for the whole summer. 06:06 Oh, for the month, for the month. 06:08 - Yeah, it was for a month. ~ For a month. 06:10 And I remember asking you when she came here, 06:13 "Do not contact your daughter." 06:15 You said, "Dr. Logan, that's going to be hard." 06:17 I said, "Don't call, you can't pick her up, 06:19 take her any food." 06:21 Let her have her time with her mother 06:23 so that she can also see the value of being with her mother 06:28 for that long period of time. 06:30 Because it's not just a weekend. 06:31 Because they go and see their mother how often? 06:34 She gets the second and fourth weekend of every month. 06:36 Alright. 06:37 And I remember hearing you say, "I don't care what it will take, 06:41 but I'm your father, you will live with me 06:43 until you're 18 years of age." 06:45 Why did you make that so emphatic with your children? 06:49 Because particularly with my daughter. 06:53 The mother of my children, she always wanted a daughter. 06:56 And by my daughter being the last one, she's the baby. 07:00 So the boys kind of have distanced themselves. 07:04 - From their mother? - From their mother. 07:06 So she doesn't kind of rely on them too much 07:08 to come over or anything, but she's held a 07:11 tight rein on my daughter with that being her baby girl 07:15 and her only baby girl. 07:17 So a lot of times my daughter will feel obligated 07:21 to be there for her mother or do what her mother says. 07:24 And a lot of times they will go back and forth. 07:26 I think a lot of it is, my daughter wants her mother 07:30 in her life so badly that she wants to live with her. 07:35 But a lot of times she'll still complain about different things. 07:38 But her thought is, once she gets older 07:42 she can't have a relationship with her mother 07:46 from a childhood standpoint. 07:48 - Because those years are gone. - Right. 07:50 So when I tell her eighteen, she'll say, 07:52 "By then it's too late." 07:54 I say, "Well Ya'll can still do all the things you want to do." 07:57 But as far as why I've told her eighteen, 08:01 it's because, again, the mother of my children 08:04 constantly tries to ask them where do they want to live. 08:07 And so it confuses my daughter. 08:09 So to try to cut out the confusion, I just tell her, 08:11 "You're with me until you're eighteen. 08:13 And we've dealt with the guilt that your daughter 08:16 has dealt with to please her mother, 08:18 and appease her. 08:20 And one thing that came through therapy is, you know, 08:23 understanding that they both have a role in your life. 08:26 You have a mother, you have a father. 08:28 But you live with your father. 08:30 And I remember, I said, "Now, I'm not allowing you..." 08:33 Or, "Dr. Logan, you need to understand. 08:35 Dr. Logan, I want to go be with my mother. 08:37 Dr. Logan..." 08:38 And I remember meeting their mother. 08:40 You know, very strong person, personality. 08:44 But allowing her the opportunity... 08:46 Because I'm a mom. 08:48 And I know that it's important for me to 08:51 be in my children's life. 08:52 But I want to be a healthy, positive 08:54 example for my children. 08:57 What about school? 08:58 I know school has been challenging 09:00 with your two younger ones. 09:02 Doing their chores. 09:04 How do you deal with helping them to understand 09:06 the importance of education? 09:09 I don't know. I'm still struggling with that. 09:11 You know, them reaching teenage years, and the cell phones, 09:15 and all the distractions and everything. 09:18 But I take a lot of it from, I try to take experiences 09:22 from my job, by me being a supervisor, and everything. 09:26 So I try to explain to them, not only am I an employee 09:29 within this company, but I'm also, you know, 09:32 a boss within this company with the power to hire and fire. 09:36 So I try to give them life lessons. 09:38 Not just what they get out of school, 09:40 but how things are looked at once they get 09:43 out into the real world. 09:45 Are you concerned about your children academically 09:47 that they will or will not go to college or trade school? 09:51 You know, are you concerned at all? 09:53 Uh, sometimes because of how reserved, 09:56 at least my youngest son is. 09:58 My daughter, she's real strong headed, 10:01 so I'm not that concerned about her. 10:03 Do you have any concerns about when they start dating? 10:08 Is that an issue? 10:10 Hormones are developing. 10:12 Your daughter is very developed, she's very pretty, you know. 10:15 How do you keep a close rein on her? 10:18 Well I try to make sure that she knows I'm her dad 10:21 and she's loved. 10:22 So she doesn't have to look for love in all the wrong places. 10:25 - Right. - Alright. 10:26 And that, again, goes back to her having a father in the home. 10:30 Seeing you take her to school, you provide for her. 10:34 I've notice on social media that she recently had a birthday. 10:38 And I don't if anybody else was there, but I only saw 10:42 you in the pictures with her. 10:44 Was it just you and her daddy/daughter time? 10:46 No, it was me, my middle child son, 10:52 and her soon to be stepmom. 10:54 Okay, so it was all of you together. 10:57 Four of you, because Tyberius is away working in Ohio. 11:01 Relating to that, how does she get along with your fiancé? 11:05 - Good. - They get along well? 11:07 Yeah, depends on what day it is. 11:09 Lately it's been a lot better. 11:11 Did you say it depends on what day it is? 11:12 - Yeah. - Alright, that's all parents. 11:14 But she's been really good the last couple of weeks. 11:17 A lot of times, again, things go back to her mother. 11:21 So I think sometimes she may feel like she's being 11:24 disloyal to her mother if she's too close 11:27 to the woman that I'm with. 11:30 But we also try to take it with a grain of salt. 11:33 We understand where it's coming from. 11:34 And I remember the meeting that we had. 11:38 Your fiancé was here, the children's mother was here, 11:42 you, your daughter, and I. 11:44 And we didn't know what was going to 11:45 happen out of that meeting. 11:47 But your fiancé was very clear, 11:50 "I'm not here to take your place. 11:53 I'm here to be a support, an asset, and whatever I can be." 11:59 But it was still that intimidation, 12:01 or she felt uncomfortable. 12:04 And I think that the way it was handled by her 12:08 was very good, it was healthy. 12:10 And she had to step back, she had to step back, "Okay, fine." 12:13 Because she's been in the children's lives for how long? 12:16 Over ten years now. 12:18 Ten years. And they call her what? 12:20 - They call her, mom. - They call her, mom. 12:22 I remember taking the children, you allowed me to take 12:25 the children out to eat. 12:26 I wanted to spend some time out of the office. 12:29 Because you know I always say I'm not the 12:30 traditional type therapist. 12:32 "Let's go." 12:33 And it's a blessing when a parent can trust in these times 12:38 their children with someone. 12:39 You know, I've not know you for years, 12:41 but you know, you recognize my character. 12:44 So you dropped the children off and we left and we went to eat. 12:48 And great table manners. 12:50 I was so just impressed. 12:53 "Thank you." "No, thank you." 12:55 "May I have more?" 12:57 Excellent. 12:58 When we got to the mall, Ty said to me, 13:03 "These are the things I miss with my own mother." 13:06 And I said, "What do you mean?" 13:08 Because I was hoping that the environment 13:09 would open them up a little bit more. 13:12 And it did. 13:13 And oh, and Cary was like, "Oh, I got to show you this." 13:17 "I got to show you that." "I got to show..." 13:18 I said, "Oh, good thing I wore my flats, alright." 13:21 And then we went to get something for your daughter, 13:24 and they were right there with her. 13:27 We took forever trying to find this one shoe, alright. 13:30 But we still couldn't find it. 13:32 But he said, "I miss all of that with my biological mother. 13:37 And I'm angry at her. 13:39 I resent that." 13:41 And I said, "Well listen, you know, you have to understand 13:46 there were circumstances, choices made." 13:48 He said, "I would never treat my children like this." 13:51 I said, "But you can lean on the fact that, you know, 13:54 you still can have a relationship with your mother. 13:57 She's still alive." 13:58 And he said, "But I love my father. 14:00 I love my father." 14:02 He said, "I know I've taken him through changes. 14:05 And one of the best things he could have done 14:06 is send me away to this program." 14:08 And it turned his life around. 14:10 And he said, "But I love my father. 14:12 I want to be with my father." 14:14 What happens when you hear that? 14:16 When you hear your children say, "I love my father. 14:18 I want to be with my father." 14:20 Well it just validates that I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. 14:25 And that validation is important. 14:26 Yeah, yeah. 14:28 When you have kids, yeah, you... 14:30 I mean, everybody wants to know that they're doing a good job. 14:34 - And that they're loved. - Yes. 14:35 You feel your children love you? 14:36 - Oh absolutely. - Absolutely. 14:38 You say, "Absolutely!" You know. 14:40 Why are you so absolutely sure your children love you? 14:42 I don't know, I just do. 14:44 The relationship that we have, the bond that we have. 14:45 - The bond. - Yes. 14:47 So even when you agree to disagree, 14:48 that bond cannot be broken. 14:50 - No. - Alright. 14:52 Even when she was away. 14:54 Because at one point in time she was really confused, 14:57 so she had to be hospitalized and everything. 15:00 She was telling the staff and everyone all types of things. 15:03 She didn't even want to see me. 15:06 She only wanted to see her mother. 15:08 Even though her mother didn't have custody, and everything, 15:11 I allowed that to happen. 15:13 Because I knew the relationship between me and my daughter. 15:16 She was angry at you that you had to make a decision 15:19 to put her in that particular hospital? 15:23 I don't know if she was angry at me for that because 15:26 we had conversations prior to that. 15:28 Did it worry you that what you saw and what happened to her, 15:33 did it scare you at that moment? 15:36 No. Because again, I knew what was going to happen. 15:39 And at the end of the day I've always said, 15:42 while she was away, "I don't like where she is, 15:45 I don't like that she's away. 15:47 But if this was the path that God has us to go 15:52 in order for her to be better, then I'm alright. 15:54 It's only a short period of time." 15:56 It's just a short period of time. 15:58 You mentioned God. 16:00 Now when you came to me, I don't know, 16:02 did you know I was a Christian therapist? 16:04 - You didn't know. ~ No. 16:05 How did you feel about that when I asked to have prayer 16:08 or when you found out that I was a Christian therapist? 16:10 - I felt better about that. - Did you? 16:11 - It felt good. - Why? 16:13 It just did. 16:15 To hear another person pray for your children and everything, 16:18 and pray before a session. 16:20 Because I try to... 16:24 I'm not going to say I go to church a lot. 16:27 But I do try to live my life day to day 16:30 by following the Spirit. 16:32 Just trying to do what's right. 16:33 ~ Yes, yes. 16:35 And you are a good father. 16:36 I mean, the reports I've read. 16:39 Because if not, they would have taken the children. 16:41 Alright, because you've been in court. 16:42 Yeah, she's called maybe about six or seven times to CPS. 16:45 - And it's all been for naught. - Yeah. 16:49 Recognizing the importance of God, 16:51 when I prayed with your children, 16:53 and they were asking me questions about right and wrong. 16:59 They know right and wrong because you've 17:01 taught them right and wrong. 17:02 And decisions have been made. 17:05 I am concerned about Cary, as you are. 17:07 He's a quiet child. 17:09 But he said something that was so profound. 17:12 And I purposely was doing something, and I said, 17:16 "So are you thinking about taking your life?" 17:19 And he said, "What?" 17:21 You know, and I never made eye contact with him. 17:23 I think I was doing something on my phone. 17:25 I was doing something, I was like, 17:26 "So, are we looking at suicide here?" 17:29 And he said... 17:32 And he said, "Dr. Logan, never." 17:36 He said, "Never. 17:37 I will never take my life." 17:39 He said, "I'm quiet, I'm bored, I feel isolated at times." 17:44 And I really, you know, want him to find his way. 17:49 So what do you think he is in need of? 17:52 I know what we talk about, and that's confidentiality, 17:55 but you know, things you've shared with me 17:57 and I've shared with you. 17:59 But as a father looking at your son, 18:01 what do you think, what is his niche, 18:03 what have you noticed for him? 18:05 What I've noticed is television. 18:07 Television or movies. 18:09 The other day we were watching a movie 18:10 that he had never even seen. 18:13 So when I put it on, I said, 18:14 "I bet you can't tell me what this movie is." 18:16 Mind you, he'd never seen this movie. 18:19 Just by listening to the music he identified the movie. 18:23 But he'd never watched the movie before. 18:25 So maybe he's interested in developing movie scores 18:28 and music. 18:30 Does he have a keyboard, any instruments? 18:32 He use to play the guitar, but he wasn't 18:34 really into it that much. 18:36 So what we're looking at now is maybe him taking a class 18:40 in community college that's affiliated with television 18:44 or movies or anything like that. 18:46 And film production. Excellent, excellent. 18:49 You are looking in the future for your children. 18:52 Now you're going to be getting married soon. 18:55 Has a date been set? 18:57 - No. - Not yet, alright. 18:58 I still have to officially propose. 19:00 Oh, officially propose. 19:01 You're going to get down on one knee, and all of that? 19:03 - Yes. - Oh really? 19:05 You'll have the violins, you know? 19:07 - Yeah, I don't know. - Okay. 19:09 - We're on camera. - Okay. 19:11 So do you want more children? 19:14 Uh, yes. 19:15 With the woman that I'm with, yes. 19:17 You want more children. 19:19 Because she doesn't have any children. 19:20 So I would love to have children with her. 19:22 She wants two. 19:23 Okay, so the ages of your children now are what? 19:27 Cary and Leigh, yeah because Ty had a birthday, 19:29 so they're 15, 15, and 19. 19:33 Wow! 19:34 So yeah, I'll be starting over again. 19:36 All over again. Okay. 19:38 Well I think that's admirable of you. 19:41 You love being a father. You love it. 19:43 You know, but having now, being married for the first time, 19:47 being able to have a complete component, 19:52 that's important to you. 19:53 ~ Yes, yes. - To have that experience. 19:55 Now let me ask you, what type of work do you do? 19:58 Because you bring your children to therapy, 20:02 you take them to school. 20:04 When you told me a few weeks ago, "Dr. Kim, 20:07 I get up, I go to work at six in the morning. 20:11 I come back, get my children, I take them to school. 20:15 I go back to work. 20:17 I go back to school, pick my children up, 20:20 take them to their activities. 20:21 I may go back to work. 20:23 Bring them to you to therapy. 20:25 Go back to work, come back." 20:28 How do you do it? 20:30 I mean, I don't know. 20:31 It just needs to be done, so. 20:33 You do what you have to do. 20:35 And that's how I've always been. 20:39 And I think a lot of it stems from, again, when me and their 20:42 mother was together, I would depend on her to 20:45 do some things, and them some of the things weren't getting done. 20:49 So I kind of took it upon myself to make sure 20:53 I did the things that needed to be done. 20:54 That way I know it's done. 20:56 You have a type B personality, 20:58 which is reserved and passive/aggressive. 21:03 But you are a type A in leadership. 21:05 Because you are a supervisor, single father, 21:08 you take over that leadership role. 21:10 I mean, you're not looking away for me, 21:12 you're giving me complete eye contact, alright. 21:15 Even when we're one on one in my office 21:17 and when you're communicating with me. 21:20 Why is communication so important? 21:22 You speak very well. Were you taught that as a child? 21:26 I mean, I just had a regular public 21:28 education to twelfth grade. 21:29 ~ You went to twelfth grade. 21:31 ~ Any college. - No. 21:32 And so, but you were able to land a very good job. 21:35 - Obtain a good job. ~ Yes. 21:37 And you worked your way up to supervisor now in the company. 21:40 How long have you been with the company? 21:42 Well with this particular company, four years. 21:45 - You like your work? - Yes. 21:46 Alright. Now what do you do for you? 21:50 I'm not talking with your fiancé, the children. 21:52 Do you work out, do you swim, racquetball, tennis? 21:56 What do you do for you? 21:59 Just lately got back into going to the gym. 22:03 Like today I was telling the kids, when I left work 22:07 we were going to go play tennis. 22:10 Because I was so, I don't want to just keep going 22:12 to the gym when I get off work. 22:14 Because now I'm actually supervising two shifts. 22:17 What? 22:18 So I'm managing my shift, and then our afternoon 22:23 shift supervisor, he went over to the mother plant. 22:27 So I just told them, "Don't send anybody else over. 22:30 I'll manage that as well." 22:31 So you're literally doing twelve hours a day? 22:33 Yes, yes at least. 22:36 Wow! 22:38 You do sleep? You do eat? 22:39 - Yes. - Okay. 22:41 But with that, like I said, the past two days 22:45 I've been getting off, racing home, changing, 22:47 then shooting to the gym. 22:50 Even though the kids are with their mother, 22:51 because I let them stay a little bit longer, 22:53 but I don't want that to be the norm. 22:56 I go to work, come home, cook something for them, 22:59 and then shoot off to the gym. 23:01 And then we don't have any interaction, so. 23:04 I can still get exercise in by us going to play tennis. 23:07 And I get to beat them. 23:09 And you get to beat them because you know how to play. 23:10 Okay, and they're running around. 23:14 Your relationship with your daughter. 23:16 I had asked you a question. 23:19 I see you engaging with her, you laugh, 23:22 you all play, you hit with each other. 23:25 And I think at first, you know, it didn't concern me. 23:29 But I saw it again, and again. 23:31 And when you were at the door, you're playing with her. 23:35 I don't know if I'm comfortable with that 23:38 because of the fact that, do we cross the line of 23:42 being parent and friend. 23:44 Or playmate. 23:45 Does she understand when it's time for you to be father? 23:48 "I'm your father, but yet I play with you and I laugh with you." 23:52 And it's great, you know. 23:54 But can she, you know, separate who you are? 23:59 Oh definitely. 24:00 - She can? - Oh yeah. 24:02 Maybe about a month ago she called CPS on me. 24:05 That's right, she did. She did. 24:07 Yeah, we gave her the phone, gave her the number, 24:09 said, "Go ahead, give them a call." 24:11 And I stood right there when she was talking to them. 24:13 ~ Yes, because they called me. 24:15 Yeah, they came out, came to the home. 24:17 Did their interviewed and said, 24:18 "Okay, well I don't see anything wrong here." 24:20 I said, "Okay, I'll see you later." 24:21 And what did you do to your daughter? 24:24 What did I do to her that day? 24:25 Because she was being real disrespectful to my woman. 24:31 And my woman was always saying she says things. 24:35 She was like, "I try to save her from you 24:37 by not telling you things." 24:40 But this time I was actually in the home when she did it. 24:44 So I had got all up in her face. 24:47 So we were like right here. 24:48 I was like, "Say it again." 24:51 I said, "Because I've hears all about this." 24:53 You know, I've seen different things that she use to post on 24:56 Facebook or social media, and different things she says. 25:00 I'm like, "But that's not you." 25:04 Because she use to act all tough. 25:08 But that's not who she really is. 25:09 She really a sweetheart. 25:11 Did you use a belt, did you use your hands? 25:14 That day I didn't use anything. 25:16 I was just threatening to her. 25:18 I did, I did, I think I grabbed her by her shirt 25:21 and took her into your room. 25:22 And as I was in the room I flung her to her bed. 25:26 So from there she told the people I slammed her on the bed. 25:31 Right. Because when I got the call from protective services 25:34 and they asked me questions, and I said, "I see the family 25:38 weekly, and I've never seen any marks or bruises 25:41 on the child. 25:42 The father is very loving, very caring." 25:44 But she has to learn how to respect her father. 25:48 She does have an issue with disrespect. 25:51 It was mainly, it wasn't with me. 25:54 - It was with your fiancé. - Yes. 25:57 - Or with her brothers. - Or with her brothers. 25:59 But the issue would be with my fiancé. 26:02 Yes, and you're not having that. 26:03 Because you would hear about it, but this time you heard it. 26:07 And did it just like, "What? Did I just hear something?" 26:10 Oh yeah. 26:11 She had been telling you, but you didn't have that proof. 26:15 "Not my children." 26:16 Did you take that attitude? "Not my daughter." 26:18 - Somewhat. - Okay. 26:20 And that caused a little rift between you and your fiancé. 26:23 - Yes. - Alright. 26:24 Because she'll think I'm taking their side. 26:27 Because sometimes I'm caught in the middle with both of them. 26:29 The kids will feel like I'm taking her side, 26:31 she'll feel like I'm taking the kids side. 26:33 Yes, and how do you feel about that, you know? 26:36 I'm alright with that, because at the end of the day 26:37 I just try to do what's right. 26:39 And I've got to let everything flow the way it's going to flow. 26:42 - Okay. - It all works at in the end. 26:44 So, you know, you're in good health. 26:47 Your children have no concerns about you. 26:51 ~ Nope, we don't get sick. 26:52 You don't get sick in your house? 26:54 Uh-ho, okay. 26:55 I've kind of instilled that in them to where 26:58 they don't get sick. 26:59 They believe that now. 27:01 I've always told them that was actually a mindset. 27:06 - Of getting sick. - Yep. 27:07 I've always told myself I never have time to get sick. 27:09 My mother use to say that to me. 27:11 You know, she said, but she would make me eat oatmeal, 27:14 and put raisins in it, and give me that, you know, 27:17 big tall glass, you know, of almond milk. 27:22 ~ Yeah, I've never done any of that. 27:23 If I did feel ill, I would just give my body three days. 27:28 If I still had whatever illness or symptoms after three days, 27:34 then I would go to the doctor. 27:36 Because I just went to the doctor and he was like, 27:38 "You don't come around here often." 27:40 "Yeah, I was told I had to come to the doctor, so here I am." 27:44 - But you're okay? - Yeah. 27:45 Well listen, Steve, I can't believe we're out of time. 27:49 I want to thank you for being on, Live To Be Well. 27:51 Continue being a good father. 27:53 I appreciate you supporting Christian counseling. 27:55 I just want to say to you, please implement 27:59 church attendance, and prayer time with your children, 28:03 and studying of the Word of God. 28:04 Especially as you bring in your fiancé into your family. 28:09 I thank God for you. 28:10 And thank you for supporting me. 28:12 I cannot tell you enough how important it is to have a 28:16 father such as Steve in a home with his children. 28:20 I've seen it, and I appreciate it. 28:23 Continue to live to be well, and be good parents. 28:26 God bless. |
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