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01:10 Hi, friends.
01:12 And welcome to another edition of NEWSTART Now.
01:14 I'm your host Ron Giannoni.
01:17 In our studio with me is Anthony Celiason,
01:21 all the way from Alaska.
01:24 Let's take a look at when Anthony first arrived.
01:30 Stage five, kidney failure.
01:36 I'm here so I don't have to get tubes put in my chest
01:39 and, you know, I have my blood, you know, and kidneys put in.
01:46 I'm trying to save my life, trying to save everything.
01:50 I was here before, I went up to Alaska...
01:56 lot of stuff didn't work out.
01:58 I ended up gaining weight, I ended up getting 410 pounds
02:03 before I came down here, almost died,
02:07 and I'm now down to about 4% of my kidneys.
02:12 Got down here and I'm down to 320 pounds right now,
02:19 I've lost 50 pounds down here.
02:24 I want to try to lose 50 more pounds before I leave here.
02:29 Get little bit more religion, closer to God
02:31 and I want to have good friends,
02:35 I mean, that's what you make of it.
02:37 Always going to have good friends.
02:44 Hi, friends, and welcome back.
02:46 Anthony. Help me welcome Anthony.
02:49 How are you doing? I'm doing good, man.
02:51 The question is, how are you doing?
02:56 Couple of 100% better.
02:58 Couple of 100%.
02:59 Been feeling way better than when I came here.
03:02 You know, I was really concerned
03:05 when you first got here.
03:06 I know you remember being here and all that,
03:09 but you're in a bad shape.
03:11 And I know 'cause we've talked in the last couple months.
03:17 The first thing I like to talk about though is weight,
03:20 how much weight have you lost?
03:22 When I left Alaska, I was 410 pounds.
03:25 I'm right at 300 pounds right now.
03:27 So you've lost 110 pounds.
03:30 Well, with the water weight and fat,
03:32 I've lost a 110.
03:33 Wow! That's a whole person.
03:35 That's one of those little nurses.
03:40 I lost it somewhere,
03:41 I didn't lose it, I gave it away.
03:42 You gave it away.
03:44 It's a freebie, it's a freebie. It's a freebie.
03:46 Michelle says, "Oh, no, when you're loosing,
03:48 you'll find it again."
03:50 I didn't lose it, it's gone.
03:53 So aside from the weight, any other things to report?
03:59 Kidneys have come up a 125%.
04:01 They went from 4% to 10% already.
04:06 All the stuff that was wrong with my kidneys
04:08 weren't filtering it out are almost are doing
04:11 very, very well right now, my body isn't so poisoned.
04:15 First I got here, I could walk couple of 100 feet,
04:18 now I'm walking about a 1.5 mile at a time
04:20 without stopping.
04:21 How much you walk in a day?
04:24 Three to five miles.
04:25 Awesome, man.
04:26 And I'm eating better and feeling better.
04:31 So I heard through the Grapevine
04:32 that you're a chef.
04:34 I cook sometimes.
04:37 Well, our NEWSTART director says
04:39 you fixed him some good chow.
04:42 Well, he's a good person
04:44 and I had to make sure he's taken care of.
04:48 Where did you learn to cook?
04:50 My mom and dad, I worked
04:52 in a few restaurants and stuff like that.
04:53 My stepdad has a restaurant up there in Alaska,
04:55 and my brother is about to open one and so on.
05:00 That figures.
05:01 So you had a lot of experience. Somewhat.
05:03 Yeah, somewhat, you're being humble.
05:06 But nonetheless how about your other numbers?
05:09 Your blood pressure...
05:11 Blood pressure went from stroke stage down.
05:13 It's doing about 110 over 60 right now so...
05:17 On medication?
05:19 They cut my medication almost all the way off.
05:21 I'm on few pills,
05:25 I'm on lot of my pills for my kidneys
05:27 because my kidney function still isn't all the way up,
05:30 but everything else has been...
05:33 But your blood pressure is 110 over 60?
05:35 Yup. That's at 109 or 110 at my...
05:38 I'm completely off insulin to...
05:41 my insulin, everything like that.
05:44 Blood sugar is running about 85, 86.
05:50 I mean, I'm doing pretty good, you know.
05:53 I mean, I'm feeing good. I'm going to come back.
05:55 I want to come back for a few more, few more of these
05:58 and I want to lose another 100 pounds,
06:00 at least, I want to get down to 200.
06:01 Yeah, yeah.
06:02 Then bring my kidneys up,
06:04 and then I don't have to go in for dialysis
06:05 and get chopped open, and all that kind of bad stuff,
06:09 I want to live a good life, you know?
06:13 You know, one of your guests with you Emanuel,
06:17 we interviewed him earlier
06:19 and they want to put a shot on his arm.
06:21 We said don't let them do it 'cause once you do it.
06:26 Yeah, they're talking tubes here to start off with
06:29 and then in my arm permanent.
06:33 I said no. Good.
06:35 You know, I said I'd rather come down here,
06:37 then actually, my doctor advised me
06:38 not to come down here, but I told him, I said,
06:41 "You know, I want to try it once."
06:44 Good. Excellent choice.
06:46 So Tuesday, I get to go see my kidney doctor
06:49 and go show him what's going on...
06:51 Oh, it's going to blow his mind.
06:53 Yeah, he should be pretty...
06:55 I think he's going to be pretty impressed.
07:00 But I understand that
07:01 Dr. Gallant's been in touch with him.
07:03 Yes, yes.
07:05 Yeah, that's good that the doctors
07:06 are working together.
07:07 Even though he's against his better judgment,
07:12 I think you made a good call.
07:14 It was a right call obvious.
07:18 Well, I mean, I don't think my body can take...
07:20 Well, at the time we were taking too much more,
07:25 you know, with operations you're talking about
07:27 and all this other stuff, I don't know.
07:29 I didn't want to chance down on operating table,
07:32 so I said, "Why not, just come down here
07:33 and just try for, you know, 18 days what's big,
07:36 you know, what can that hurt."
07:39 It's an 18 days I was out...
07:42 Within a week I was out running around.
07:44 I had a lot more energy, everything was, you know...
07:48 So what's your favorite part of the program?
07:53 The delighted spa.
07:54 Who is your therapist?
07:58 Very good man with the count.
07:59 Isn't he good?
08:01 He is very good.
08:02 He's very, very talented.
08:04 I know. Very good man.
08:06 And he's taking care of you...
08:08 Well, I think what it is I get relaxed.
08:12 I finally get to relax.
08:14 And I've got a lot of problems with my back,
08:15 so he works with lot of the problems
08:17 so I don't have to take my pain medication anymore.
08:19 I'm off of my pain medication.
08:21 You're off all pain meds?
08:22 Right now I am.
08:25 I know they told me
08:26 that it's bad for my kidneys, so I'm...
08:28 I was on quite a few vicodin a day
08:30 soma for my muscles.
08:32 My muscles cramp up, intense up,
08:33 so I'm pretty much off those two so it's...
08:38 So you're a walking miracle.
08:40 Pretty much. I've stopped all that and...
08:45 I don't know, I'm just trying to get everything together
08:47 and just get it done.
08:50 You know, to live life,
08:51 you know, live as best as you can so...
08:54 Now you're flying out tomorrow morning or...
08:57 Ten o'clock tomorrow. Go back up so I can...
09:00 I got to go up and see my doctors,
09:03 you know, they want to see me,
09:06 they want to see I'm doing,
09:07 they're going to do me the 200-point turn and,
09:11 you know, look me all the way over.
09:12 I got to get my eyes done,
09:14 so I think I need reading glasses.
09:15 So when are you coming back then?
09:18 I'm going to try to be back in two weeks.
09:20 Two weeks. Okay. For the next session.
09:23 And then by that time, hopefully,
09:25 I'll lose few more pounds and...
09:26 Yeah, you will.
09:28 Back in here and see everybody with same idea.
09:31 Oh, we run out of time, but I want to thank you
09:33 and congratulate you for job well done.
09:37 Thank you, sir.
09:38 And thank you, friends.
09:39 Don't go away Dr. Gallant is up next.
09:48 Every year in America,
09:49 there are over one million deaths
09:51 because of Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
09:54 This includes heart attacks and strokes.
09:56 That's 6.5, 747s crashing every day.
09:59 What's even more surprising is that the fix is easy.
10:03 It's your lifestyle.
10:04 Wouldn't it be nice
10:06 if you could actually add quality years to your life
10:08 rather than dying one organ at a time?
10:11 Obesity and diabetes
10:12 are the cause of over million deaths per year.
10:15 Most diseases are reversible
10:17 because most diseases are lifestyle diseases,
10:20 especially Type 2 diabetes and chronic obesity.
10:23 Seriously now, they can be reversed
10:25 and the quality of your life can be renewed.
10:29 Call NEWSTART today at 1-800-525-9192.
10:35 You will see dramatic changes
10:37 in the first few days of our program
10:39 and you'll be on the road
10:40 to a better more robust quality of life.
10:43 The NEWSTART programs are simple and effective.
10:50 Welcome back, friends, Dr. Roger Gallant.
10:52 Good to see you, Ron. It's always good to see you.
10:55 Hey, I like your shirt. You too, brother.
10:57 Thanks. That's good.
10:59 You know, how much there is to talk about...
11:03 I could talk about Tony all day long.
11:05 It's true.
11:06 You know, it almost feels like one of the staff.
11:10 This is his third session with us.
11:12 Third session.
11:13 And you've been his doctor all along, right?
11:15 That's right.
11:16 So when he first came here, he was pretty bad.
11:21 Yes, he was. He was.
11:23 Especially when he came back,
11:25 he was really sick and, you know...
11:29 Well, can I stop you... Absolutely.
11:31 He did okay when he was here in January.
11:35 And then he went home
11:37 and he kind of backslid shall we say.
11:40 He did okay for a while. Right, right.
11:42 Before that happened. Yes.
11:44 And when that happened, when he backslid,
11:47 his disease just took over.
11:50 It came back with a vengeance.
11:51 With a vengeance.
11:53 And so when I saw him the second time,
11:55 I was like, "Wow, what happened to you, man?"
11:58 He really looked bad. Yeah, he did.
12:00 I thought he's going to die on us.
12:02 Well, you know, before he came, he was in the hospital.
12:05 And his sister put me in touch with his nephrologist,
12:09 his kidney doctor.
12:11 And we talked, and his kidney doctor remembered
12:13 how well he had done after he came the first time.
12:17 And that was the only reason
12:18 he was willing to discharge him from the hospital
12:21 and allow him to come to see us
12:23 it was because he knew how well he had done
12:25 because they were getting ready to put him on dialysis.
12:29 So he was a very sick man, very sick man.
12:33 And, you know, I praise God for how well he has done.
12:37 I praise God that the nephrologist
12:40 was able to see the light.
12:42 Because a lot of these docs don't know about lifestyle.
12:45 God bless you, God is watching, but nonetheless they don't know
12:49 and so this guy had to trust
12:52 that coming back would do him some good.
12:55 Not only did it do good,
12:57 he came back, he stayed for two months.
13:02 He was here for 11 days in between sessions,
13:04 he came for a third session,
13:06 and that's why he lost, what, almost 70 pounds?
13:11 He lost a total of 68.4 pounds over the last two sessions.
13:15 And in our last session this month,
13:19 he lost 30 pounds.
13:20 Ain't that wonderful? Yeah.
13:22 In 18 days. Eighteen days.
13:24 Thirty pounds.
13:25 When he came his legs were swollen,
13:28 he had edema, he could hardly walk.
13:33 And he has improved a lot now, he is able to walk better,
13:36 his legs, the swelling is all gone.
13:38 He was having a lot of pain in his legs,
13:41 that went away as well.
13:43 You know, he has just done so much better
13:46 and now that he's going home, I've charged him,
13:49 I've encouraged him to really stay strong on the plan
13:53 because when you slip,
13:58 things start to regress very rapidly,
14:02 and that's not good.
14:03 Especially for him because he's such a sick man,
14:06 you know, he can't afford to have another case
14:10 of having to go in the hospital
14:12 and have, you know, they'll put him on dialysis for sure then.
14:16 And when that happens, don't they put a...
14:18 They put a shunt
14:20 or they put a line into your chest.
14:22 And it's not good.
14:25 We had a rabbi here a couple of months ago, and...
14:28 Yeah, he would sit in the chair for hours
14:31 as they're cleaning his blood and his system
14:34 and oh, my word, I just shudder the thought of that.
14:38 Yeah, it's not good.
14:40 And, you know, the amazing thing is that
14:44 Anthony by making some simple lifestyle changes,
14:48 his body still is responding which is a blessing.
14:52 So I told him, "You need to stay strong
14:54 and stay on this
14:56 because if you keep regressing, there's going to come a time
15:01 when your body won't respond anymore."
15:03 I believe, I mean, well, God knows
15:07 He has a plan for all of us,
15:10 but He has a plan for Anthony,
15:12 and I don't know what that is
15:15 but I believe that he's going to get well,
15:18 he's going to do good,
15:20 he'll be back to see us again perhaps for another session,
15:24 I know he wants to,
15:26 and he'd like to bring his brother as well.
15:28 Which would be great
15:29 because he has a brother who is sick,
15:32 a little older than him,
15:33 and sick, maybe almost as sick as he is.
15:37 And I believe by God's grace
15:39 that we could make a difference,
15:41 I believe that we could improve his health as well,
15:44 but he's got to come, got to come and be willing.
15:46 You know, one of the things Tony shared with us
15:48 is he's going back to Alaska,
15:51 he's going to help his brother build the menu
15:57 which is a takeout type of restaurant,
16:00 and they're going to add vegetarian and vegan foods.
16:05 Nice, nice.
16:06 And then he's going to show his whole family how to cook,
16:09 how to prepare these meals
16:11 which he's done here for Greg and Sue
16:15 and few other of our staff members.
16:18 The guy seems to be a pretty good cook.
16:21 I have a suggestion.
16:22 Yeah, I think you and I should take a NEWSTART fieldtrip
16:27 and go to Alaska and check out the restaurant
16:30 once they've got it together.
16:31 Oh, that would be awesome.
16:32 Wouldn't that be fun?
16:34 I think we should do it.
16:35 All right.
16:37 Well, right now, we've run out of time.
16:39 But God bless you, Doc,
16:41 I really appreciate all that you do.
16:43 You too, Ron. Your valuable time.
16:45 God bless you.
16:47 And God bless you, friends, don't go away
16:49 'cause Pastor Snead is up next.
16:55 Welcome back, friends, help me welcome Pastor Snead.
16:59 Good to see you, Brother. Thank you.
17:01 You know...
17:03 We're going to talk about Tony, right?
17:06 Tony is kind of a special guy, this is his third time here.
17:12 And he's here because he got sick,
17:16 really, really bad sick
17:18 as you've seen in the interviews.
17:22 But I noticed a big change.
17:25 I noticed, you know, like he shaved his beard,
17:28 his hair is cut and he's lost,
17:31 I don't know, 60, 70 pounds
17:33 and, you know, he's just making some really huge changes.
17:37 And I know he's spiritually...
17:39 Can we talk about that? Yeah.
17:41 'Cause when I first met him
17:43 he was this tough guy from Alaska.
17:46 And nobody better get in his way,
17:49 you know, one of those guys.
17:50 But now he's changed, what's going on?
17:54 Well, the first time I met him, he's like everyone else,
17:57 a little intimidating big old boy.
18:01 You know, he comes into my first counseling session,
18:04 he comes into the office and he sits down and he says,
18:06 "All right, where is the whiskey, pastor?
18:10 I know you got it hidden here."
18:12 And, you know, every word out of his mouth is not so clean
18:16 and he's telling me these dirty jokes
18:17 and I'm like, you know, and kind of like, okay.
18:21 And so my first couple of weeks with him was that way,
18:24 however, towards the end of the series
18:27 and, you know, we're getting to the end of the week two,
18:29 and we're going through...
18:31 Now, he's hitting me as someone spiritual when we're out.
18:33 He's not there every morning,
18:34 but he's starting to come a little bit towards the end.
18:37 And then towards the end,
18:39 I just decided to go for with him,
18:42 I was like, "You know, Anthony, have you ever
18:44 thought about your relationship with God?"
18:46 And then he just surprised me.
18:48 "Yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot
18:49 since I've been here," and I was blown way.
18:52 'Cause I was raised up around construction workers,
18:54 guys like this, so I just thought
18:56 this is never going to happen.
18:58 But it did with him.
19:00 And, you know, of course he felt,
19:01 and I was surprised to see him the second time.
19:04 So was I.
19:06 I didn't think I'd ever see him again, then he did.
19:07 He called and said, "I'm coming back."
19:10 And he's coming again.
19:11 This is the third time.
19:13 What I got to see with Tony
19:16 is I've got to watch this spiritual transformation
19:18 with him along with the health.
19:21 Now I've seen the vulnerable side of him too
19:24 which is fearful as any man would be facing dialysis,
19:27 or death, or I mean, his father died young,
19:30 he has all kind of in-laws that's died young,
19:32 and he knows he's at that age,
19:34 but he's also very interested in the spiritual.
19:36 So over these past three sessions,
19:38 and like you said, it's a total transformation
19:40 spiritually speaking,
19:41 he shaved his beard,
19:43 and every now and then a word will fly out,
19:44 and he'll look up and say, "I'm sorry."
19:46 Isn't that something? Yeah.
19:48 And he's moved to the Bible studies,
19:50 you know, he's preparing for baptism.
19:51 The next session, he wants to come back,
19:53 he wants to actually be baptized,
19:55 the first day that we've met him
19:58 he would have been least likely.
20:00 We would have never guessed it.
20:02 Yeah, as a teacher, I might say,
20:03 "Well, he's a least likely to succeed."
20:06 And here he is transformed.
20:08 The example I use is like a caterpillar
20:11 that goes in and weaves this thing
20:13 and all of the sudden, it comes out
20:15 this beautiful butterfly.
20:17 You know what I mean? Right.
20:18 It's like I know these people...
20:20 That's pendulum swings both ways.
20:23 And so those people are really honoree,
20:26 really bad, they can make really, really good.
20:29 That's right. Look at Paul.
20:33 I'm talking about Biblical Paul now.
20:35 Sure, sure.
20:37 And with this guy, I mean,
20:38 if you were to walk up to his home in Alaska
20:41 with a set of Bibles study and say,
20:42 "Hey, do you know Jesus?"
20:43 You're going to get thrown out of that door.
20:45 This is not... Physically.
20:48 This is how the health message works, the beauty of it.
20:50 Now with him, it's taken time,
20:52 but this is all health programs do,
20:54 they're not always intended to just grab you
20:56 get to someone in the church.
20:58 They're over time,
20:59 they're designed to be able to foster
21:01 that relationship of care and love
21:03 and the Spirit opens, his heart is open,
21:05 he's talked about things that I never dreamed
21:07 he would have talked about.
21:08 You know, people praying over him,
21:10 he's told me that he's never felt such love, and he knows...
21:13 and this is from Tony, he's saying,
21:15 "I feel like God is in this place, God is here."
21:18 And it's impressed him so, you know...
21:20 Wow, praise God.
21:22 You know, you've done an incredible job
21:24 with a lot of these folks.
21:26 And I think about Big Joe, you know?
21:30 That's another case talking about big people.
21:33 But, you know, Tony, he's doing good,
21:36 I know he'll continue, he's going to come back
21:38 and join us in the next session,
21:41 he wants to stay here for several months.
21:43 That's right.
21:44 And praise God for that.
21:46 And I want to be at that baptism.
21:48 That's right.
21:50 We've run out of time.
21:51 I want to thank you, brother.
21:52 All right, friend. God bless you.
21:54 And, friends, thank you, but don't go away
21:56 'cause Dr. Nedley will be right with us.
22:34 Welcome to NEWSTART Now.
22:36 I'm Dr. Neil Nedley, president of Weimar Institute.
22:39 And with me today is Dr. Eddie Ramirez,
22:42 researcher, physician,
22:44 and professor here at Weimar Institute.
22:46 And today, we're going to be sharing with you
22:49 an exciting study,
22:52 this is on people who are on high dose benzodiazepine.
22:56 If you know people on two milligrams of lorazepam,
23:00 you know, twice a day or more,
23:02 or two milligrams of Xanax twice a day or more,
23:06 or five milligrams of valium twice a day or more
23:09 or we could go through a whole list of them.
23:14 People do not know how to get off of these
23:17 and they also tend to have
23:19 high rates of depression and anxiety.
23:22 And so, Dr. Ramirez, you actually analyzed the people
23:26 coming in to Weimar Institute
23:29 to our Depression and Anxiety Recovery Program.
23:33 This is where they're severe and so they're under our care.
23:37 But they're not under our care first,
23:40 they're under other physician's care.
23:42 And so they make the call to Leanne
23:44 our nurse case manager,
23:46 and they're asking about
23:48 the Depression and Anxiety Recovery Program.
23:51 And if they're on a high dose what did your study show?
23:53 What does she recommend them?
23:55 So what we would like for them to do
23:58 is to decrease their benzodiazepine usage
24:01 working together with their physician
24:04 before they come to our program
24:06 in order to get
24:08 the most out of our residential 10-day program.
24:12 We're very likely to be able to get them off in 10 days
24:15 if they start that reduction beforehand.
24:18 And so Leanne actually gives them some recommendations
24:23 to give to their physician
24:24 on what they would like to accomplish,
24:26 and the physician's goal
24:28 is to get them down to less than two milligrams
24:31 of this alprazolam or lorazepam
24:34 a day before the program starts.
24:37 How many people did we look at in this study?
24:40 So we had a 368 people that finished
24:45 and started our 10-day
24:47 Residential Depression Recovery Program.
24:50 Okay, so this is a large group of patients
24:53 on these medicines,
24:55 and what did we find out...
25:00 What is the protocol and what happens?
25:02 So what we're sharing in this particular study
25:05 published in the American Journal on addictions,
25:08 we are sharing what is our pathway,
25:13 what do we do with these patients
25:15 that are taken these medications,
25:17 what protocol we follow to help
25:20 and get off this short acting benzodiazepines
25:25 that are actually quite addictive.
25:27 So we're sharing here step by step,
25:29 how we use interventions
25:32 such as lavender oil in an oral form,
25:36 and if those people are struggling very much
25:39 with this decrease in their short type of benzos
25:44 like the alprazolam, lorazepam,
25:46 then we can add actually a more longer acting benzo
25:51 such as chlorazepam.
25:53 In the meanwhile, while we're helping them
25:56 in this process of overcoming these benzos.
26:01 And so it is a very nice protocol,
26:04 it's well described here,
26:07 and so our idea behind publishing this
26:11 is not only can you get help at Weimar Institute,
26:14 but if your physician gets educated
26:17 to be able to do some of the same things
26:19 that we're doing here at Weimar Institute,
26:22 there is a chance that you or your loved one
26:24 can get off of these drugs.
26:26 And I can tell you if they do,
26:27 they'll be a whole lot easier to get along with,
26:30 they'll be a whole lot easier to in regards to relationships,
26:35 and anxiety, and depression.
26:38 Any other results that you want to bring forward
26:42 in this particular study, Dr. Ramirez?
26:44 Yes, their anxiety decreased dramatically
26:48 from severe type of anxiety
26:50 as they're making these changes in their medication,
26:54 they come down to mild levels of anxiety
26:58 as a result of this synergy, of this lifestyle factors,
27:03 and decreasing those addictive substances
27:07 that they were taking.
27:08 And that's amazing
27:09 'cause that's lower levels of anxiety
27:11 when they were on the high doses of benzos.
27:13 So a lot of times people think,
27:15 "Well, I have to go up on my benzos."
27:16 No, the answer is get to the real issues
27:20 causing the brain chemistry issues,
27:22 and then you'll be able to go down on your benzos
27:24 and have far less anxiety than you've ever had before.
27:29 There's three options, the community-based version,
27:33 the home-based version,
27:34 but this particular option is the one we studied,
27:36 the residential program.
27:39 And contact us today if you know of anyone
27:42 that needs help with their anxiety
27:44 and are on these medications.
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