Participants: Ty Gibson
Series Code: OTR
Program Code: OTR000978
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01:02 Hello and welcome, welcome to Our Pillars
01:05 of Our Faith continuing preaching God's word 01:09 here live from Thompsonville, Illinois 01:13 and to all the world praise the Lord. 01:15 Welcome, everyone of you those that are here 01:18 from different parts of the United States 01:21 and some from other countries. 01:22 Welcome and we also want to welcome our viewers 01:26 from around the world. 01:27 Thank you for joining us, we have the opportunity 01:30 to study God's word together. Our speaker for this hour 01:33 is Ty Gibson a wonderful message, which you will hear 01:37 about in just a moment, but first we want to go to 01:40 God's throne of grace through music 01:42 and I like to invite sister Tammy Chance 01:45 to come forward. We are going to hear beautiful music 01:48 from the heart of a person that loves the Lord. 01:51 From heart of a person that ministers through her music 01:55 and I would like to encourage you to hear the words 01:58 of this sermon and song by sister Tammy Chance 02:01 more than ever before. 02:20 You know it's true, I love you more than words 02:26 could ever show, but forgive me Lord for love at times. 02:34 I haven't told you so because you mean everything to me, 02:44 your presence I do I want to live each day 02:50 in such a way you know. I love you more and more. 02:58 More than ever before, Lord I love you. 03:08 More than ever before, Lord I need you. 03:17 More than ever before, I've got to tell you, 03:27 I love you now more than ever before. 03:42 I love you then, I love you now. 03:47 That much more love in hand, and 03:53 till the end between us, we find, he became my dream 03:59 let's find, and with each day 04:04 you will be in my way, your love never known before 04:11 I want to live each day, in such a way 04:16 you know I love you more and more. 04:21 More than ever before, Lord I love you 04:30 More than ever before, Lord I need you. 04:40 More than ever before, I've got to tell you 04:51 I love you now more than ever before. 05:00 More than ever before, I've got to tell you 05:11 I love you now, more 05:13 than ever before. 05:31 Amen. Where the outlines 05:35 people should have Amen when I'm preaching if possible. 05:39 He has given us many reasons to love him. 05:44 Amen, Amen. And continuing on this 05:49 we have the blessing of having Ty Gibson with us. 05:53 We praise the Lord that he was able to join us 05:55 for this camp meeting and Ty Gibson is a man 05:58 that loves the Lord as well, you can hear it 06:01 as you talk to him. You can sense that 06:05 as you listen to his sermons and you can also see that 06:08 as you read one of his books 06:10 that he has a connection with the Lord. 06:12 I would like to invite Ty Gibson to come forward 06:16 and he is going to present a message from God's word. 06:19 I encourage you to follow along in scriptures 06:21 and we leave the time with you 06:24 in the message a God named desire. 06:28 Amen. May Lord bless you. 06:29 Thank you. Thank you John, how is everybody. 06:32 Great. How many of you actually like this humidity 06:36 anybody, I went for a walk 06:39 with a couple of friends of mine last evening and 06:41 as we were walking the fireflies were beautiful. 06:44 Aren't they? Just, just these little electrical creatures 06:49 that flash in the night that was beautiful, 06:52 the sound the crickets that pretty nice isn't it? 06:55 Oh! Just a nice sound, we even heard some 06:58 baritone crickets last night. 07:02 But as I was walking with these friends 07:05 my precious sister Cheryl she said. 07:08 Oh! I just love this weather, this, this, this, 07:11 I said even the humidity yes even the humidity, 07:14 I have to make a confession I said 07:16 something kind of not nice about this area. 07:19 I shouldn't have said This, but I said, 07:20 I said you know what I think the first thing that I do 07:23 if I lived here is move. 07:25 That's the first thing, that's the first thing 07:28 I do, is move. I don't know I don't 07:32 like to actually feel the air when I go 07:36 outside I don't like it to grab me and anyways. 07:40 But, I think I move back real quick 07:42 because the people are so nice here, have so many 07:45 good friends here what a blessing. 07:46 Are you eager to launch into the God's word? 07:48 Amen. I want to tell you if you 07:50 have attended any of the regional or the National 07:54 ASI convention this is just a little disclaimer 07:57 at the beginning here. If you have attended 07:59 any of those ASI conventions some of you actually 08:01 may have heard the short version of this message, 08:05 I apologize in advance I want you to know, 08:07 I want to know however that if you begin to get 08:10 little drowsier, bored 08:11 because it's familiar information. 08:13 Please understand that if anybody ought to be bored 08:15 it's me, I have heard it every single time 08:19 I have delivered it. 08:20 And I am not bored with it because this is a 08:23 powerful truth that gives us insight into the way 08:28 God has made us and what it is 08:30 that we are made for, we are going to discover 08:33 in our time together that you and I 08:36 Literally, we are psychologically, emotionally 08:40 and even biologically we are engineered 08:45 for a relationship with God so we are gonna launch 08:47 into that just now, but let's pray. 08:49 Father in heaven, we open our hearts to you, 08:51 we want to know you more intelligently Lord 08:55 permeates our intellects in a rationale faculties 08:59 with insights that will ignite for you a deeper 09:03 and more increasingly passionate love 09:08 for you Lord. We want to know you as you are, 09:11 please send your Holy Spirit to preside 09:14 over this meeting over everyone of our hearts 09:16 and minds Lord and give me grace 09:18 to speak for you effectively Lord. 09:21 May your word be powerful in our understanding 09:24 in Jesus name. Amen. 09:27 Well, I want to set the topic up 09:30 this afternoon by making some observations 09:34 about human nature and in order to get 09:40 there I need to tell you that according to my precious wife 09:41 Sue, precious as she has, she has leveled 09:43 an acquisition against me. 09:45 She thinks I am weird for a guy. 09:50 I said baby why? Why do you think I'm weird? 09:52 She said because you like shopping. 09:54 You are not suppose to like shopping, 09:56 shopping is a traditionally female venture 10:00 and it's just strange that you like shopping 10:04 being a guy in all. 10:06 Now, here's the thing to make it even 10:07 more un-guy like, I guess. 10:10 It's not the tool store, the boat store 10:12 or the car store that I like shopping at? 10:15 It's a grocery store and any grocery store will 10:20 do really. In fact I think that the reason my wife 10:25 has this problem with me is because she is, 10:30 she is aware the fact that I shop better than her. 10:34 I'm actually a better shopper, I'll tell you 10:36 why because I do it methodically. 10:39 I enter the grocery store, I always start 10:41 to my right and I make my way up and down 10:44 every single aisle on every visit, where 10:47 as my wife on the other hand she shops like a man. 10:52 She has a short mental lift she enters the premises 10:55 and she kind a spot shops consequently, 10:59 she often forgets things that we need 11:02 and consequently she never discovers 11:05 any new yummy stuff. 11:11 Where as my method you never forget anything 11:14 because you see everything, so it triggers your memory 11:17 yeah we need that yes we need that 11:19 and I have made so many great discoveries 11:23 in the grocery store some of which 11:26 have been introduced into our permanent diet 11:30 and that would not be the case if I did not 11:33 go occasionally. She doesn't want me going, 11:35 when I see her kind of trying to slip out the door 11:39 and I know she is going grocery shopping, 11:42 I will say. Hey Sue, can I go. 11:46 And she only says in a rather, rather emphatic tone, 11:48 no, I'm in a hurry. I just need to get the stuff and 11:52 get home, but occasionally 11:56 occasionally, she has allowed me to go. 11:59 She said okay I'll stay home and you go. 12:02 I don't want to go with You, but you can go 12:06 by yourself and on this one occasion 12:08 she sent me on the mission to secure some salsa 12:12 for the Mexican dinner she was going to make that evening. 12:16 She said please hurry you don't need to go up 12:18 and down every aisle, just go get the salsa and get home. 12:21 So, I was so excited to have her permission 12:27 I rush to the grocery store, 12:29 I went straight to the salsa aisle 12:31 resisting the temptation to go up and down 12:33 every aisle and went straight to the salsa aisle 12:36 to prove that I could went necessary shop 12:38 like a man, but as I entered the salsa aisle, 12:44 I experience a deterrent to my mission 12:48 there was a woman who was very studiously 12:51 focused on the salsa and bodily 12:55 she was positioned of course in front of the salsa. 12:58 So, what was I to do I couldn't be in a hurry 13:01 I had to exercise of course proper grocery 13:04 store etiquette. Nobody should ever feel your breath 13:08 on the back of their neck in the grocery store. 13:10 So, I came up behind her just slightly 13:15 off to her left of course may be I don't know 13:18 a foot and a half two feet back behind her 13:21 and I just stood appearing forward over her shoulder 13:23 looking at the salsa options making my selection 13:26 ahead of time so that when she was done 13:28 I can just grab the salsa head 13:29 to the check outstand and be home. 13:31 But then suddenly something completely 13:34 unexpected and actually it was a kind of frightening 13:37 happened as she stood there looking at the salsa herself 13:41 and I stood there looking at the salsa suddenly out of 13:44 no where this woman reached back her left hand 13:48 and tenderly clashed mine in hers. 13:56 I was stunned, I was so nervous 14:01 that I clutched her hand a little tighter. 14:07 Now, of course it was flattering, but 14:09 here's the thing she was focus on the salsa 14:14 she didn't release that this was a mistake 14:17 and then, and then as she is holding my hand 14:21 she says in a rather romantic tone I might add, 14:24 she says medium or hot Sweetie Pie, 14:33 Now as you might imagine I am immediately in a quandary. 14:41 I'm in psychological melt down, 14:43 emotionally I'm being damaged right now. 14:49 So, we stand there holding hands, 14:51 and in my quandary I'm having to figure out 14:55 what to do because on the one hand I know I'm not him, 15:01 I'm not sweetie pie, he is somewhere else 15:04 in the grocery store making new discoveries. 15:07 On the other hand, I have very, very definite opinions 15:12 about salsa and she did ask after all 15:19 medium or hot and I preferred mild so 15:22 that you can taste all the shuttle fusion 15:25 of the salatrim, the tomatoes and onions 15:27 and the garlic and if it's too hot 15:28 you can't taste all of those flavors. Can I get an Amen. 15:35 Amen. On my own Salsa, okay, 15:36 so as I am standing there trying to figure out 15:38 what to do of course you have to understand this all 15:41 happened in slow motion, in about three seconds 15:43 just as she says medium or hot sweetie pie, 15:47 she is in mid turn and in full pucker, 15:52 this lady is about to plant one on me 16:04 and of course I am a committed 16:06 Seventh-Day Adventist Christian 16:07 and I can't let that happen 16:12 and so I immediately began to blurt out 16:17 as my head cranes back toward the spaghetti sauce 16:20 still holding her hand so nervous 16:22 that it's getting tighter. 16:26 I say actually mam I prefer mild 16:30 and just than our eyes meet and she sucks in her pucker 16:37 and leaves my clutched hand into with hers 16:46 and froze my hand from her presence 16:49 as if I have a disease or something. 16:52 She is shocked no doubt, I know it was a traumatic 16:56 experience for me and for her. I thought 16:58 it was hurry for her, it was traumatic for me try 17:03 making a salsa selection in those circumstance is hard. 17:09 Anyways, she rushes out of the salsa aisle looking 17:13 for her true love just like all of us 17:17 are, which is the point, which is the point. 17:22 Two things donned on me as I was making my way 17:25 to my car after securing my salsa selection. 17:29 Two things were going through my mind 17:31 the first one you've already guessed it, I'm hoping that 17:34 sweetie pie is a 6.6 of solid muscle covered 17:37 with tattoos looking for the troupe 17:39 that held his girls hand in the salsa aisle. 17:41 So, I'm really in a hurry to get home 17:43 now, but the second thing that I'm thinking is wow! 17:52 That's all of our situation, every single 17:58 one of us, listen to me carefully now 18:00 every single one of us are wired 18:04 in such a way that we have relationships 18:09 that are of an intimate nature close friends, 18:13 our grandma, grandpa, an aunty and uncle, 18:17 a mom and dad, little grandchild 18:21 and we all have matrimonial ties or matrimonial hopes. 18:28 We all crave true love, we all want it 18:35 at the most bedrock level of our sentient human souls, 18:41 we crave that, we must have it in fact or we die. 18:47 And science is actually making this discovery 18:52 and about the last 10 to 15 years science, 18:56 which has been tilted heavily toward a survival of the 19:00 fittest, evolutionary world view in which by the way 19:04 the highest law of human nature is self preservation. 19:08 Am I right? In that world view 19:12 listen there is no such thing as love, 19:17 Richard Dawkins one of the most 19:19 prominent atheist and advocates 19:21 of atheism in our time, himself a biological scientist. 19:28 Richard Dawkins says that the experience of love 19:31 in human experience, love is an illusion 19:35 he says, there is no such thing as love 19:38 when a person purports to love someone else 19:42 this is merely evolutionary process operating 19:46 at a more sophisticated level in order to secure 19:51 the advantage in the relationship. 19:54 So, ultimately he says that what we call love is 19:57 merely a more sophisticated version of selfishness. 20:02 This is all evolutionary science can do it, it's 20:08 all they know to do with this phenomenon called love 20:13 that we human beings experience universally 20:17 to one degree or another and even when we are not 20:20 experiencing it, we are yearning for it. 20:23 Wishing for it, praying for it, wishing that we 20:29 had some close friend in whom we can invest 20:35 our loyalty and whom we can trust and experience 20:39 all the beautiful new answers of two human beings 20:43 genuinely caring one for the other more than themselves. 20:49 Well, science doesn't know what to do with 20:52 this accumulating data that is coming on to the table 20:56 before as you should have an outline in hand 20:58 and I am hoping you have a outline in hand. 21:00 Entitled the God name Desire, 21:01 how many of you have that outline? 21:02 Wave that outline, I want to make sure that Oh! 21:04 wow efficiency everybody has an outline. I want you to 21:10 notice with me a book entitled love and survival 21:15 please note the title of this book, notice the title 21:18 of this book makes it very, very interesting 21:22 jerks the position of two words, Love and what's the 21:25 other word survival, this is fascinating. 21:28 The author of the book is Dr. Dean Ornish, 21:32 we are going to discover in just a moment 21:33 that Dr. Dean Ornish does not believe in the existence 21:36 of a personal third party God who exist adjacent 21:40 to human beings some where in reality. 21:44 In other words he doesn't believe that God 21:47 exists as a being distinct from creation itself 21:52 and humanity itself. We will discover 21:55 that in just a moment, but that's a little bit 21:57 of background on Dean Ornish. 21:58 Some of you are into the health message 22:00 you've heard of the Dr. Dean Ornish 22:02 because he is the physician and scientist, who 22:05 discovered through multiple studies that heart disease 22:09 could be reversed by lifestyle changes 22:12 such as an exercise regime and nutritious food. 22:15 Right. That's his claim to fame, 22:17 but his first love is not the health 22:20 of the biological heart by the health of the emotional 22:24 and psychological heart. 22:25 So, years before Dr. Dean Ornish began his 22:29 research on the biological heart the doctor began 22:33 accumulating evidence and information to demonstrate 22:38 the thesis of his book love and survivor, 22:40 which by the way went straight to the New York times 22:42 best sellers list as you might expect 22:45 because of the topic, human beings are 22:48 universally hungry for love and we 22:53 intuitively know, in our hearts and minds 22:57 that we are utterly and completely dependent 23:00 on love for our survival. 23:02 So, when we see those two words adjacent 23:05 to one other Love and Survival, 23:07 I'll tell you what I'm picked that book up, 23:09 and so did millions of people. 23:12 Notice on page 29, it's in your outline 23:15 this is information I wanted you to have, 23:17 so you can make use of it yourself. Notice page 29, 23:20 this is the basic thesis of Dr. Ornish's book 23:24 anything that promotes feelings of love and intimacy 23:30 is what? What's the word he uses, 23:31 healing. Anything that promotes isolation, 23:37 separation, loneliness, loss, hostility, anger, 23:41 cynicism, depression, alienation, 23:45 that is relational breakdown and related feelings 23:49 often leads to what suffering disease 23:54 and premature death from all causes, 23:58 every human being without exception 24:01 Dr. Ornish is telling us, we will experience 24:05 in a climate, in an atmosphere, in a world 24:08 of intimacy and love. We will experience 24:12 greater health, he goes on to demonstrate that 24:17 a person, who lives in social connections that are involving 24:23 trust and loyalty and affection 24:25 that these individuals by enlarge are better 24:29 equipped biologically to fight off any disease 24:32 that they might be predispose to. 24:35 So they done controlled studies 24:37 and they've actually shown that an individual who 24:40 lives in isolation and anger and loneliness 24:44 who is predisposed to heart disease for example 24:48 is much more likely to die of that cause 24:53 in their isolation and loneliness. 24:55 Where as an individual who is equally 24:57 predisposed to heart disease for example 25:00 who lives in an environment of affection 25:03 and love and intimacy surrounded with friends 25:05 and outgoing other center service that individual 25:09 is far more likely to survive the on slots of heart 25:14 disease and their body will be better 25:16 equipped to fight it off. 25:17 It's amazing, this is hard science. 25:21 In fact, Dr. Ornish demonstrates that literally 25:24 the white blood cell count that is your immune systems 25:28 ability to fight off disease, the white blood cell 25:31 count literally goes up in your body 25:35 through the simple exercise of affectionate touch. 25:42 Touch the person next to you, touch them, just 25:45 hold hands with somebody you could hold hands with 25:48 okay, be careful remember the lady in the 25:52 salsa aisle it's dangerous. Okay, I want, I want you 25:56 know something even though, even though you may not 25:58 be conscious of it that simple act of you know 26:01 I walk up to one of the buddies and I put my hand 26:03 on his shoulder. David just came back stage 26:05 before I was to come out here and he put his arms 26:08 around me and he hugged me tight 26:09 and my wife blood cell count went up. 26:13 I was in conscious of it at the moment 26:16 but the fact is that because of my interaction 26:21 with David just moments ago, I am better 26:23 equipped to fight off anything that 26:26 might be come in my way today. 26:30 This is what's being demonstrated. 26:32 Now, why are we like this? Why are human beings 26:36 dependent on intimacy and love 26:41 for their health and survival? 26:43 Notice page 22, backing up a few pages 26:46 in Ornish's book he says the scientific evidence 26:49 leaves little doubt that love and intimacy 26:53 or powerful determinants of our what? 26:59 Health and Survival. Now I want you to notice 27:03 carefully the word why italicized, I didn't italicized 27:09 the word in the book it's italicized, 27:11 this word is italicized for emphasis 27:14 by Dr. Dean Ornish, he is saying here the scientific 27:18 evidence leaves little doubt that we are dependent 27:22 on love and survival, on love and intimacy 27:24 for our survival and health and then he says 27:27 but why, why they have such an impact 27:33 remains what, somewhat a mystery, now 27:36 now I want to ask you is it a mystery to you? 27:40 Those of us gathered here today for this event 27:43 digging into God's word and seeking intimacy 27:47 with a third party personal God of the universe 27:51 is it really all that mysterious to you? 27:53 Does it comes as surprise to you that biologically we are 27:57 wired for affection and love. Is that surprising to you, 28:00 why is it not surprising to you? 28:03 Well because you already hold a world view, yes? 28:06 A world view in which love and intimacy 28:11 between individuals has it's roots in a God 28:18 of love and intimacy father, son and Holy Spirit 28:21 who have existed in try you in fellowship 28:24 for all eternity past, right. And have been existed 28:29 for all eternity past in this beautiful 28:31 hub and flow of other centered 28:33 self giving love. Father, son and spirit 28:36 moving in circular motion giving, giving, giving 28:39 and receiving, receiving, receiving from 28:42 one and another that's the matrix of reality friends, 28:45 that is the ultimate reality from which we hale, 28:50 we proceeded out of the womb of 28:55 the creative energy of God and God is love, 28:59 so it doesn't come as surprise to you and me. 29:02 That love and intimacy would prove to be such powerful 29:07 influences in a human beings life, 29:09 but why it is a mystery to Dr. Dean Ornish 29:12 and to most of the scientific community. 29:15 Because friends the world view that 29:18 is presupposed is the evolutionary world view 29:21 and in the evolutionary world view again 29:25 biological deduction, if we are mere 29:28 biological survival machines that's all, if we are mere 29:33 biological survival machines and the highest law 29:36 of our being itself preservation 29:39 move follow or get out of the way. 29:42 Survival of the fittest I just happened 29:46 to be my favorite person and you had better 29:48 watch out as I climb to the top 29:53 and rungs on the ladder may be your heads 29:55 that is the evolutionary world view 29:59 in that world of view their could be biological deduction 30:02 no such thing is a truly altruistic love. 30:07 There couldn't be anything like other centeredness 30:10 because in the evolutionary world view 30:13 what would other centeredness equate to? 30:16 Somebody said it suicide, we would not be 30:22 able if love is the primary constituent of human 30:27 experience, we wouldn't be able to experience the 30:30 advancement of the human race 30:32 if people actually loved one and another. 30:36 So it's a mystery to the scientific community 30:40 at large, why it is that all of this data seems 30:44 to be indicating that you and I are literally 30:47 engineered for love. It's very strange 30:50 to be evolutionary mind, well I want you to notice that 30:54 Dr. Dean Ornish proceeded because of 30:57 this mystery to interview some 26 scientific 31:03 minds the brightest and the best 31:05 in their various fields of study. 31:08 He interviewed each one with one question. 31:11 I just want you to answer one question 31:13 Dr. Ornish said to each of them 31:14 why do we like this, it's strange, it's mysterious, 31:19 evolutionary science contradicts it, I want 31:22 to know you're an expert, you are highly educated, 31:25 why are we like this? Some of the answers 31:31 that emerged are quite fascinating 31:33 what where this goes. On page 175, 31:37 Dr S. Leonard Syme, said in response 31:41 to the question I think that looking at 31:45 at this connection between relationship, 31:48 notice another word introduce here, 31:50 we got love, intimacy and now what word, 31:52 relationship. I think that looking at this connection 31:56 between relationship and survival is the most 31:59 significant thing that can be done in our field 32:03 right now notice the most significant thing that 32:06 can be down in our field right now, 32:08 because why we are in a major what does he say. 32:12 We are in a major crisis, what's the nature 32:15 of the crisis that is facing the scientific community? 32:19 We are in a major crisis we have tones of data 32:23 with no what? With no theory, no way to connect all the 32:29 little bits and pieces that have been accumulated 32:32 we have no overwriting conceptual model, 32:36 he already saying, he is saying 32:39 I don't know why we are like this? 32:41 We just know its true, we know its true, but 32:44 it is really quite a befuddlement 32:48 we don't know, why we are like this. 32:51 We have got tones of data proving that human 32:53 beings are not biological survival machines 32:55 after all as the theory of evolution has dictated 32:58 we should be, but rather in fact we are psychological 33:02 emotional spiritual love machines 33:04 that's what the data is revealing, 33:09 we were made for relationship with on and another 33:13 and ultimately with God in which always 33:16 from my perspective the other is first. 33:20 And always from your perspective, who is first 33:22 the other, and always from the God's perspective 33:25 who is first the other and Calvary proves that 33:30 with crystal clarity that God literally loves 33:34 all others above and before himself. 33:40 Amen. But it's a mystery we have got tones of data, 33:45 we have no theory, we have no model, 33:48 we don't know how to make sense out of this. 33:50 So, where did they have to go? Dr. Ornish says on page 171 33:54 yet mystery remains that is after interviewing 33:57 all of these highly educated scientist mystery remains 34:01 nobody knows the answers to this question 34:03 by the way we are privilege in this room to know 34:05 the answer to this question. 34:06 We're about to discover with greater clarity 34:09 in a just moment, but for the scientist 34:12 mystery remains notice what he says, 34:16 no one can fully explain what is going on 34:20 that is why love and intimacy matter so much, 34:28 so many of these people talk about what's that word. 34:32 Energy. Energy. The ever elusive 34:36 and featureless energy may the force be with you, 34:42 you know this concept don't you 34:45 this idea that ultimate reality 34:47 is an impersonal vacuum of energy, 34:51 there is nothing really there but some kind of ethereal, 34:55 impersonal, non-relational energy, 35:00 it must be energy they say thus making us like this. 35:06 Ah! Energy, energy I think not, 35:11 because energy by definition in an of itself 35:16 is ultimately impersonal, but love and intimacy 35:21 by definition are personal to say that 35:28 this very intimate personal dimension of 35:31 human experience some how came out 35:35 of a very impersonal non-relational matrix 35:40 is a contradiction in terms and so energy is pointed to, 35:47 but now it needs to go a step further in this line of 35:50 reasoning because rethink this through with me. 35:52 If the evolutionary model of reality is true 35:58 what is the pinnacle of the evolutionary process 36:04 or rather, who constitutes the zenith 36:08 of the evolutionary process, who is at the top? 36:11 Is it the ants, the mosquitoes, the lions, 36:15 the tigers, who is at the top of the evolutionary chain. 36:19 Human beings are, so ultimately in the evolutionary 36:23 world view we each of us individually 36:26 and all of us collectively reconstitute the pinnacle 36:30 of the reality, there is nothing 36:31 above beyond us to which we might 36:35 relate, are you with me? There is listen, 36:39 there is no one there, 3.9 billion years 36:45 ago a massive explosion occurred out of that 36:49 explosion eventually a highly sophisticated order 36:54 occurred and eventually the pollywogs 36:57 and slime curled up out of the water and here we are. 37:04 How flattering and then as this universe expands, 37:10 expands, expands, what is the ultimate destiny of 37:14 the universe or just like the bungee cord 37:17 that can't be stretched any further eventually 37:20 as all going to, it's going to implode. 37:23 The explosion is going to eventually implode 37:28 and come back down to the point at the end of a period 37:35 and we will have from then on eternal non-existence. 37:40 It doesn't make you wanna love your grandchildren 37:43 or be faithful to your marriage at the house, 37:46 it certainly doesn't make you want to look out 37:49 for the other guy and it certainly doesn't instill 37:51 integrity, it puts before us the most egregious 37:58 potential for self centeredness that will view 38:02 that is imaginable. If I am all there is ultimately 38:09 and you are all there is ultimately, 38:14 well then eat, drink and be marry for tomorrow we die. 38:18 Well, I want you to notice something here 38:22 it goes in one direction unavoidably 38:25 because as Ornish continues his interviews 38:29 one of the experts Jon Kabat-Zinn, 38:33 another researcher interviewed by Dr. Ornish 38:36 affirmed that the findings of science 38:38 are definitely indicating that human nature 38:41 is innately designed for intimacy. 38:45 So, Dr. Ornish puts the question 38:47 to Dr. Zinn, what's the question again. 38:50 Intimacy with what? So logical question, these guys 38:54 you got to give to him least logical. 38:57 They are trying to connect the doubt, 39:00 intimacy with what? Because in the evolutionary 39:03 world view what is there? What's that what? 39:05 Nothing there is nothing there, 39:08 so intimacy with what Dr. Zinn notice his answer, 39:12 ultimately with the sense of self wow! 39:20 With who you are? then he says the eye itself 39:27 becomes the object of awareness. 39:30 Intimacy with what Dr. Zinn, what with me, 39:35 you having intimacy with you is that what. 39:39 Yes, that's what I'm saying, ultimately this could only 39:42 mean that I have my own ultimate person 39:49 to relate to because there couldn't possibly 39:52 be anybody above or beyond me. 39:55 Intimacy with myself, but Dr. Zinn fails 40:00 to recognize that by definition the word 40:03 intimacy implies the existence of some other. 40:07 It is self contradictory to speak in terms 40:11 of having a relationship with myself. 40:15 But that's the only direction they can see 40:20 to go, there is a language here remind you of 40:23 anything in scripture ultimately then the "I" 40:30 me, myself and I becomes the pinnacle of my 40:33 relational intimacy, I just need to get close to myself. 40:41 Think of Isaiah 14 How are that fallen 40:45 from heaven, O Lucifer son of the dawn for you 40:48 have set in your heart I, I, I, I, how many times 40:55 I, How many? Five, I, I will ascend to the very 41:02 pinnacle of reality, I will occupy my own 41:06 total consciousness and everybody else 41:10 including God had better just get out of the way. 41:14 Well Dr. Ornish himself doesn't know 41:19 what to do with this data, so notice his conclusion 41:22 on page 146 this will absolutely blow your mind 41:25 and yet logically it's the only direction 41:28 we can go if we maintain the evolutionary world view. 41:32 Notice page 145, 146, God is not something 41:38 so he introduces God, but what is God is? 41:41 God is not something we attain from out there 41:46 some where we realize that God is in us, us, us, 41:55 we understood in this context the realization 42:00 of God of our capital itself by any other name is perhaps 42:08 the ultimate healing experience. 42:10 So, the book is inevitably has to go in the direction 42:15 you rule out the existence of a ultra-personal self 42:22 giving God of love. If there is no God 42:26 then ultimately Dr. Ornish says we need to realize 42:31 that our dependence on intimacy must involve 42:36 a hyper self consciousness and a hyper self-concern 42:42 it's all about me. 42:45 Wow! And I am God and your God 42:50 in collectively we are all God 42:52 it is the conclusion, but I want you to notice 42:55 carefully the apostle Paul commentary far before 43:02 any of this was written because the human mind 43:05 has been thinking along these lines for a longtime. 43:08 Notice the apostle Paul's commentary and observation 43:11 on this frame work of thinking. 43:13 Roman's Chapter 1, 19 and 20 note the language 43:17 carefully what may be known of God 43:22 is manifest, where everybody? 43:25 In them. In them. What is Paul referring in them? 43:29 What may be known of God is manifest in them? 43:34 That is in human nature itself, 43:37 there is testimony to God's existence, 43:41 well later on in chapter 2 he begins to fill this out 43:46 and says well for example chapter 2 he says gentiles 43:49 who do not have the law as a written code that is. 43:52 Ten Commandments on tables of stone he says in chapter 2 43:55 of Romans Gentiles who do not have the laws or written code 43:58 yet still have the law inscribed on their hearts, 44:04 he says when they do wrong their conscious accuses them 44:08 and when they do what is right, 44:09 their conscious affirms them. Whether 44:12 they've ever encountered the Ten Commandments on 44:15 tables of stone or not, can you imagine? 44:17 So, Paul goes on and says that because 44:21 what may be known of God is evident to manifest 44:24 in human nature for God has shown it to them 44:28 for since the creation of the world his that is God's 44:34 invisible what attributes are seem to what degree 44:40 clearly seen being understood by the things 44:44 that he has made even his eternal power and God had. 44:53 Wow! That's mouthful what has Paul told us here 44:57 he says well first of all I want to understand 45:00 that a testimony regarding the existence of God 45:04 is present in human nature itself, in other words 45:09 God actually created and designed us in 45:12 such a way that we know the difference between right 45:16 and wrong and we hunger for the good 45:19 we are recoiling continually at the evil 45:22 when we encountered it, we can't even tolerate evil 45:24 in ourselves without our conscious pouncing on us 45:27 with guilt. If there is no God 45:31 and we live in a merely material 45:34 universe than their should be no such thing as guilt, 45:38 there should be no such thing as affirmation of conscious. 45:42 Paul says the testimony of God's existence 45:45 is present in human nature, but it goes further than this. 45:51 Because there is another testimony in your heart 45:53 and mind, the holly spirit is continually 45:57 whispering into our consciousness 46:01 deep longings for the ultimate relationship 46:07 with the ultimate person and that is God. 46:10 We were tailor made in the deep intricacies 46:16 of the way our psychics are geared to operate, 46:20 we were engineered to have a relationship with God, 46:26 on an emotional level we hunger 46:31 for the kind of acceptance 46:33 and affirmation and trust worthiness and faithfulness 46:37 that only God can render to us. 46:41 We try to fill that vacuum with many different kinds 46:46 of things including one relationship 46:49 after another and one time after another 46:52 human beings disappoint us. 46:56 One time after another relationships are broken 47:00 and one time after another as we come up empty handed 47:05 from our broken relationships we find unabated, 47:10 a still more persistent longing for a faithfulness 47:17 and a loyalty and an acceptance, 47:20 and the love that finds it's only perfect match 47:26 in the heart of God. 47:30 And so Paul says in so many words 47:34 we know God exist because of the way 47:39 we are made, we know God is there because 47:41 we long for him, even when we 47:44 don't know his name. Down 47:47 through history there have been countless individuals 47:50 who never had a Bible, the Scriptures 47:54 says we have them or rather new development 47:57 in human history Enik was translated without a Bible. 48:00 So was the Elijah, there are been individuals 48:06 outside of the parameters of the God's chosen people down 48:09 through history, the Bible actually prophesied 48:12 that the Messiah who would come to this world 48:14 would also be the messiah and the savior 48:17 of the people of China. 48:19 China is named in scripture as one of the people's 48:24 on the outline world around Israel, 48:27 China is named as one of the people groups in this world. 48:31 That God had his eye upon and his affections set up on 48:36 and when the savior would come Isaiah said 48:38 he would come, he would come, not only for Israel 48:41 but for the people of Cin, 48:43 which is the ancient word for China. 48:48 American Indians who have never known 48:51 the name the Jesus in early, the early history of 48:56 the development of this nation never heard 48:58 the name of the Jesus, never read the Bible 49:01 and yet they experience the movings of the Holy Spirit 49:05 in their conscious and those who yield to those movings 49:10 find rest and peace to their souls 49:13 in the path of righteousness and truth 49:15 and loyalty and trust worthiness. 49:20 God has put the testimony of his existence 49:23 in our very hearts. 49:26 Page 2 you're outlined however helps us to understand 49:30 in more graphic and concrete terms 49:36 precisely why human nature is the way it is. 49:41 In rapid-fire succession notes these mere sentences, 49:47 a couple of them mere phrases from scripture 49:52 and note the relationship of the ideas 49:55 to build this picture in our minds. 49:56 Genesis 127 makes the awesome declaration, 50:03 God created man that is mankind 50:07 male and female, God created mankind 50:10 in his own what. Image. In his own image. 50:13 That is to say there is something 50:17 about God, listen there is something about God 50:23 that is replicated in human beings. 50:27 Are you with me? Yeah. 50:29 The image of God has taken on form external to 50:35 himself in the human nature and human experience. 50:42 God created man in his image, what is that image? 50:45 I mean you could pick one word in scripture 50:46 to define the core essence of the divine 50:50 identity what would that word would be? 50:52 First John 14:16, God is love my friends; 51:00 I wanted you notice something about this, 51:01 about this statement. This statement is listen carefully 51:07 the only total identity statement about God in 51:11 scripture, the only statement in scripture 51:14 that defines in totality who and what manner of person 51:19 is God is, you will find other scriptures 51:22 that say God is holy, but never God is holiness. 51:27 You will find scriptures that say God is just, 51:30 but not God is justice, God is merciful, but 51:35 never where you find a scripture that says God 51:37 is mercy. The noun, all the adjectives that pertain 51:43 to God, all the adjectives and verbs that pertain 51:47 to God are extensions of the one noun 51:55 that defines the totality of God's essential being. 51:56 God is love and therefore everything else 52:00 that is true of God is true of God because God is love. 52:04 God is just because God is love, 52:06 Justice is in fact a dimension of love. 52:11 God is merciful because God is what? 52:14 Love, mercy is a dimension of love. 52:18 God is all that he is because God is love, 52:23 God created man in his image the image of God is love 52:28 that is other centered self giving passion, 52:34 we were made in that image through the fall 52:38 that image was lost it was forfeited 52:42 and right now you and I are at the centre of an ache 52:48 in the heart of God. That is difficult 52:51 for us to wrap our imaginations around. 52:55 God literally has poured out all the resources 53:00 of his heart and all the resources of heaven 53:04 to the inns degree of personal self sacrifice, 53:06 to save you and me at any cost to himself. 53:12 God is love he made us in his image 53:14 we forfeited that image and now I want you to notice 53:17 the next line here from the Proverbs 19 verse 22 53:21 as it is rendered in the new international version, 53:24 the best translation that I could find 53:27 of this text I want you to notice something. 53:31 We were made in God's image; 53:33 we were made as replicas of the other centered self 53:36 divine phenomenon of God's trinitary and love. 53:40 We were made that way, we forfeited that love 53:45 and now this statement of scripture 53:47 makes a diagnoses say what? 53:49 Diagnoses. A diagnoses of the human condition. 53:52 You want to know what's really going on 53:55 at the deepest level of your heart and soul. 53:57 You want to know what's going on in the heart and soul 54:01 at the bed rock level of the lady, 54:02 you bought your salsa from at the grocery store. 54:05 You want to know what's going on in the heart and mind 54:09 of the person whose eyes barely met yours 54:12 as you walked on the side walk of your city. 54:14 You want to know what's going on 54:17 in the in most soul of every child crying 54:20 out for food in India. 54:25 What a man scripture says what a man, what a human being 54:28 desires is unfailing love, that's what we want 54:35 more than anything else. 54:38 That's what we long for we want a certain quality 54:41 of love that is unfailing, a trust worthy faithful love, 54:47 we long for its restoration in all our relationships 54:52 and in our ultimate relationship with God. 54:55 I got 2:7 confers upon the coming savior 55:02 my absolute favorite name for Jesus 55:06 in the whole Bible well the last couple of months 55:10 it's been my favorite name for Jesus 55:12 in the whole Bible, I don't what's coming down 55:13 the pike, but Jesus is given a title here, 55:18 friends I want to just notice his name 55:21 sometimes he is called the Rose of Sharon, 55:23 calling our attention to the fact that Jesus is beautiful. 55:27 Sometimes he is called the bread of life 55:29 because he is accessed into our soul, 55:31 One scripture in John 10 says I am the door, 55:34 he is the door, he is the bread, he is the water, 55:37 he is the rose, he is the lilly of the valley, 55:39 he is known by many names and metaphors. 55:42 This one is incredible Jesus is called by the Prophet 55:47 the desire of all nations that is to say 55:53 Jesus Christ is the quintessential desire of every 55:58 human heart, he is the universal craving my friends. 56:03 Even when we don't know his name, 56:05 we long for him in character and attribute. 56:09 In the very longing for love that pulsates 56:14 in our heart we long for Jesus, 56:16 whether we know his name or not 56:21 and when we come into vital connection with 56:24 the Desire. Capital D, when we come in the contact 56:29 with the Lord Jesus Christ. We know that we are 56:35 finally, where we were meant to be all along, 56:38 it's as if we are standing everyone of us 56:43 in the salsa aisle, holding somebody's 56:47 hand longing for love. Wishing we could have it 56:52 and rushing up and down the aisles 56:54 of whatever this world has to offer 56:56 because we are frightened by all the impostors around us. 57:02 And my friends when we meet Jesus 57:06 we know that we are at home. 57:08 We were made for him no one can love you, 57:13 like Jesus loves you. |
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