Pure Choices

Comin Out Ministry Outreach

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Wayne Blakely (Host), Mike Carducci, Ron Woolsey

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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material
00:05 may be too candid for younger children.
00:40 Hello. Welcome to Pure Choices.
00:42 My name is Wayne Blakely of Coming Out Ministries,
00:45 joined by my colleagues, Ron Woolsey and Mike Carducci.
00:49 Thank you for joining us today.
00:51 I would to mention a little bit about our silence here
00:55 and throughout the Christian culture
00:57 about homosexuality.
00:59 It's been present for many years
01:02 rather deafening.
01:04 Many have left our church culture
01:07 and our churches
01:09 due to the silence about homosexuality,
01:12 some to embrace the gay culture
01:15 and some have actually ended up going and committing suicide.
01:19 Today, as redeemed individuals that have returned to Christ
01:25 and accepting him into our lives,
01:28 we want to speak out about our personal testimonies in Jesus
01:31 and that's what Coming Out Ministries does today.
01:35 Guys, you know, I wanted to collectively thank
01:40 Dare to Dream for allowing us to come on,
01:43 it's been a privilege to come on
01:45 and share these various topics that we have spoken about here.
01:50 I want to thank Pure Choices for being bold in the Gospel
01:54 and recognizing that there are many people
01:57 with all kinds of temptations.
02:01 We're so fortunate
02:03 that they want to speak out in the Gospel of Jesus Christ
02:07 with the boldness that goes deep within that
02:10 than what you might hear just sitting in a church pew.
02:13 It's been incredible to have Pure Choices
02:17 and to be on this program.
02:18 These are some programs
02:21 that we never would have the opportunity
02:23 to do ever before.
02:24 This has been huge.
02:26 That's right.
02:28 You know, Ron, as I think about our presence here,
02:33 we've covered a lot of territory
02:34 and but what sticks out in my mind is that,
02:37 you know, Mike and I have been most recently
02:42 once who have been able to comeback and be witnesses
02:45 for what the power of Christ has done in our lives.
02:48 Yeah, you have been with the ministry.
02:53 In fact, we call you Moses in our ministry
02:57 because you have had a tenure of speaking out
03:01 on this issue by yourself.
03:03 Can you tell me what that's been like?
03:06 Well, I was converted 21 years ago.
03:08 The very night I was baptized,
03:10 I was asked to preach the next Sabbath,
03:13 and I was launched in the ministry immediately.
03:16 And but for the first few years,
03:19 I never talked openly about the specifics of my conversion.
03:23 I would just talk about
03:25 a life of self destruction and degradation.
03:27 I was very timid about my past.
03:30 It was nine years later, nine years in the ministry
03:34 that I was asked to publish my book,
03:36 to tell my story and the Lord was prodding me,
03:39 get out there and do something,
03:42 and that was kind of a shelter
03:44 because I could write it and still be anonymous.
03:47 Then, I was asked to be on radio talk shows
03:49 for three years,
03:51 but that was still kind of anonymous.
03:52 I was behind a microphone or on a telephone.
03:56 And then, Shawn Boonstra came to me and asked
03:58 if I was ready for television.
03:59 And I remember saying...
04:01 He read my book and I remember saying,
04:03 "Well, I've been praying about that for the right time
04:06 and the right person to do that with,"
04:08 and to his credit, he said,
04:11 "Well, now is the time, and I'm the man."
04:13 And in just a few weeks, then I was on television,
04:15 I was pushed.
04:17 The Lord pushed me into talking openly about this
04:20 because He knew I was a timid warrior.
04:23 I was a bold warrior about the Gospel
04:26 and zealous with a gospel
04:27 but I was timid about the details of my conversion.
04:31 So I've been openly working in this area
04:33 for the last 15 years or so.
04:37 Yes.
04:38 Well, praise God, Ron, you are not alone any more.
04:43 Amen, and I praise the Lord for that too
04:45 because it's kind of lonely out there
04:47 by myself and wondering,
04:49 "Is there anyone else out there that has this story,
04:52 this testimony to, you know, there is strength in numbers.
04:54 Yes.
04:56 And I praise the Lord for bringing us together.
04:58 Yeah, it's been a huge blessing.
04:59 You know, when I was first converted
05:01 and had this lightening bold experience
05:04 with God about,
05:05 what the clarity was?
05:07 What the healing was that he was asking for
05:09 and presenting to me?
05:11 I wanted to go and shout it to the mountain top,
05:13 so the roof tops of all the churches
05:15 that are out there.
05:18 And so...
05:19 but God ended up bringing me in touch with you guys
05:22 which has been such a blessing.
05:24 We've had our individual ministries,
05:25 but we're happy to be under in umbrella
05:28 of Coming Out Ministries.
05:30 Mike, can you share with the viewers
05:33 or maybe potential pastors and teachers
05:36 that might be watching
05:37 or even congregational members
05:40 regardless of what Church they belong to,
05:42 what some of the goals of Coming Out Ministries are?
05:46 Well, I think our goal is...
05:47 What's been incredible is,
05:48 as the Lord has united us
05:50 in this ministry of Coming Out ministries,
05:52 what it's done is each person in the group has strengths
05:56 that the other one doesn't have.
05:58 And Wayne has a passion for wanting to reach out
06:01 to educate the clergy to the Church.
06:04 And Ron who's been implemental
06:06 and opening up many of those doors
06:08 through a tender testimony if you would,
06:11 one that I believe the people in the Church
06:14 would not be offended by
06:16 where as my passion is actually for the youth.
06:18 I know that for me,
06:19 I was a young person in Church school
06:23 when I had my first sexual fall.
06:25 And I believe that if we can educate the youth to know
06:28 about the dangers that are out there
06:31 and the importance of sexual purity
06:33 and the blessing in the beauty of that.
06:35 So each one of our ministries hits on a different area
06:39 that makes us collectively,
06:41 I think, an incredible power source
06:43 that God has brought together.
06:45 And in the future, the very near future,
06:47 we want to be able to not only open up the doors of churches,
06:51 but we also speak at pastors' meetings,
06:52 we speak at academies.
06:54 We just had an opportunity to speak
06:56 at an elementary school.
06:58 We've gone to Africa.
06:59 We're looking forward to, you know,
07:01 this being a much bigger international ministry as well.
07:04 As God has opened up those doors,
07:06 we've been blown away by some of the opportunities.
07:07 Right.
07:09 Yeah, and we're going to talk
07:10 about some of those things today.
07:12 You know, one of our challenges has been
07:15 about the invitation to some churches
07:21 and more so universities where there are younger people.
07:25 And the fear that has been expressed to us that,
07:29 in coming to share our testimony there,
07:31 that somehow we would make the gay individual feel
07:35 that they were unwelcome.
07:37 Do you think that that's, maybe, a bit of myth
07:40 from the standpoint of leadership
07:42 who might be looking at us
07:44 to make that kind of invitation?
07:47 That the gay people would feel unwelcome?
07:50 Right, at the universities or churches where we might go.
07:54 Well, as I have spoken at universities internationally
07:58 as well as in our country
08:01 where I have found that timidity,
08:02 Wayne, is in the faculty and the staff.
08:06 They were so reluctant
08:08 because of political correctness
08:10 and efforts on campus
08:13 that are promoting the gay initiatives
08:17 and so forth.
08:19 And they were afraid that
08:20 my being there would be controversial.
08:22 And so I would encourage them
08:25 while let the enemy make all of these inroads
08:28 while we standby silent.
08:31 And as I have spoken to the students,
08:32 the reaction has been tremendous
08:34 because I would go in and the chapel would be filled,
08:38 standing room only, and I would just ask,
08:40 "How many of you know someone who is gay?"
08:43 And every hand would go up
08:45 and the students would react so positively
08:48 and praising the Lord for the messages,
08:50 you know, that like us have to bring and then,
08:53 it's afterwards
08:54 that the faculty and staff come and say,
08:56 "Well, you know, we didn't quite know what to expect,
08:59 but we're really glad you came, but the students are ready."
09:02 Right.
09:03 You know, I found that interesting
09:05 that there are elements out there today,
09:08 organizations that will go on to campuses
09:10 and be rather forceful with their agenda
09:13 about pushing forward gay rights and making sure
09:17 that everyone's aware of them
09:18 and it's going to participate in them
09:20 and agree with them
09:21 where as when I've talk to university presidents,
09:25 I tried to share with them that, when we come in,
09:28 God is not a God of force
09:30 and so we don't come in with a sledge hammer,
09:33 we come in with our personal testimony,
09:36 and we share strictly what God has done in our lives.
09:39 And so anyone attending a chapel
09:41 or attending our seminars
09:43 would be able to witness the power of the Holy Spirit,
09:46 and what the Holy Spirit has done in our lives.
09:49 And so, they can...
09:50 and I think an opportunity here
09:52 is for the individual to either agree with that
09:55 or want to turn their lives over to Jesus Christ
09:59 in that situation or to get up and walk away
10:02 and say, "Hey, that's not for me."
10:04 And so, it's not that I want to make someone feel
10:07 unwelcome at all,
10:08 but if they feel that they are receiving an indication
10:12 that they might not be living their life
10:15 in the way that God would want them to,
10:17 that this is a perfect opportunity for them
10:19 to be able to come and talk to us individually.
10:21 Wayne, now I would just like to interject here
10:23 that this is the beauty of the Gospel.
10:26 The Gospel is not invasive, it's not forceful,
10:30 it's not coercion and this is what we're doing,
10:34 we're trying to present the Gospel
10:36 that even the gay community can respond to the Gospel
10:40 and it's purity and simplicity.
10:42 It's a message of love.
10:44 And so, if our audience, you know, and potential hosts,
10:51 we just realize that we're not about like you say,
10:54 force and aggression and strong arming.
10:57 It's just the love of God. Right.
10:59 You know, I think
11:00 that some people have actually witnessed.
11:02 They're some so thankful that God has let us to places
11:05 where they have picked up on the fact
11:08 that this is not a forceful message.
11:10 Mike, you and I, I have shared recently
11:13 some of the successes of Coming Out Ministries.
11:16 Can I have you elaborate,
11:18 maybe, I mean, immediately thinking of some place
11:21 that where we went in Saint Helena
11:23 near a university and what...
11:25 how God began to open some of the doors there.
11:28 It was incredible.
11:29 But first of all, I'd like to go back to the women
11:31 that was our contact in Saint Helena.
11:34 And she... the first conversation
11:36 I had with her on the phone she said,
11:37 "Well, you can come but I'm not coming,
11:40 and I don't want anything to do with this ministry."
11:42 And I was a little put back,
11:44 especially being the church secretary
11:46 whose job was to organize this presentation.
11:49 So I just told her my story,
11:52 and I told her what we were about,
11:53 and she soften a little and she goes,
11:55 "Well, you can come, but I'm not coming."
11:57 And I go, "Okay," you know, so we prayed on the phone,
11:59 and she was tired of people
12:02 coming up to her and telling her,
12:04 you know, the reason why,
12:05 you know, gays were gay or whatever.
12:07 So anyway the next time I talked with her,
12:09 she started to soften
12:11 and eventually she became
12:12 one of our biggest promoters and supporters.
12:15 So when we got there to Saint Helena,
12:17 we ended up going to the local schools.
12:21 As a matter fact, the one elementary school,
12:22 the seventh and eighth graders had agreed to let us come in.
12:26 And many of the other doors had shut
12:28 because people were too afraid of this topic.
12:30 And as we were talking, Ron, you were there with us...
12:33 As we were talking to the teacher,
12:35 all of a sudden just as he heard us talking about,
12:38 what we wanted to accomplish in our presentations,
12:40 why we were there, and what we come from,
12:42 his heart opened up,
12:44 and he came to absolutely every presentation
12:46 that would had any easing, as well as he was very open...
12:49 Didn't he bring some of the students also?
12:50 Yes, that's right. He did.
12:52 And so we started to see this opening
12:55 if you would of people realizing
12:57 that this wasn't a message that they had to fear,
13:00 it wasn't going to slime their children.
13:02 And if anything, it was offering hope,
13:06 practical tools and redemption to those
13:08 who are struggling sexually.
13:09 Now, I remember, we spent the whole week there,
13:12 and we went to the university which was nearby,
13:14 and we wanted to distribute some of our brochures
13:17 that had our individual ministries on them.
13:21 And as we were going about doing that,
13:24 we thought about going
13:25 and speaking to the university president
13:27 and someone said to us,
13:28 "Oh, no, no, she's traveling this week,
13:30 she's not even here."
13:31 And I remember that we stopped and I said, "Well, you know,
13:34 maybe, that's the case,
13:35 but let's just pray about this."
13:37 And the lady that you mentioned
13:39 that was representing us at the church there,
13:42 came in and we joined the hands together
13:44 and we prayed,
13:45 and we went to the university president's office
13:48 and lo and behold, yes, she was there,
13:49 she was in the teleconference at the time
13:51 and that we were there,
13:53 but her secretary took note of
13:55 what this ministry was and said,
13:56 "Oh, I want you to be able to talk to her,"
13:59 and so we went outside
14:01 and we kept praying some more and asked,
14:03 when she came outside the door
14:05 and stood and looked at us like,
14:06 "What are you doing here?
14:08 You're not on my appointment schedule."
14:10 And the secretary said, "Well, they would like to have,
14:12 you know, 10 minutes of your time."
14:14 And what that turned into was us going into her office,
14:17 and sitting and talking to her for 35 minutes.
14:20 And at the end of that,
14:21 she called that a divine appointment.
14:23 Amen. Yeah. So.
14:25 And we prayed at every stop,
14:27 every door that had shut on our face,
14:29 we were standing outside of it praying
14:30 and God opened up those doors again
14:32 because we acknowledged the fact
14:34 that they closed and only God could open those doors.
14:37 That's right.
14:38 So what else is coming out
14:41 or let's take a look actually some other things
14:44 that have happened here.
14:45 Yeah, Ron, talk about Africa.
14:47 I'm Wayne, by the way.
14:48 I'm sorry. That's right.
14:50 It's like we do this all the time.
14:52 We're always calling each other...
14:54 We get some familiar with each other
14:56 where we're always forgetting who is who.
14:57 Well, interchangeable. That's right.
15:00 We had this amazing incredible opportunity
15:02 that came up for Africa.
15:04 And you know, I was kind of blown away by that
15:06 because in Africa, you know,
15:08 our church elders and leadership have told me
15:12 when I've come in contact with them,
15:14 "In Africa, they don't talk about this in Africa."
15:16 And I said, "Wow, how would that be different
15:18 than it is here in the United States."
15:21 Although, those opportunities are opening up more and more.
15:25 And with the political atmosphere
15:27 like it is in Africa right now,
15:29 we were feeling a little bit under pressure before going,
15:33 but you know, what did that look like?
15:35 What did that turn into, Mike, you and I went, so...?
15:38 It was probably the single most incredible event
15:41 I've ever experienced.
15:43 You know, a little church way out in the wilderness,
15:46 in a sugarcane field in Kenya.
15:48 The pastor had a dream,
15:50 and he was told to know God's love.
15:52 He said, "I want you to know my love."
15:53 And through a search on the internet,
15:55 he found Wayne's website, and he called Wayne,
15:57 and he said, "Wayne, mighty man of God,
15:59 I want you to come to my church and share your message."
16:02 And Wayne, your response was,
16:04 "Do you know what this ministry is about?"
16:06 Right. And he had searched your website.
16:09 He said, "Yes, we need you to come,"
16:10 and you started putting the pressure on me
16:12 that I needed to go with you.
16:14 And I said, "Nope, I don't need to go."
16:16 And through divine intervention,
16:17 again I said, "Lord, you've got to make it plain,
16:20 otherwise, I'm not going."
16:22 And the Lord just made it very plain,
16:24 within just three hours of my prayer.
16:27 And off we were to Africa.
16:28 And when we got there,
16:30 remember when we pulled up, Wayne,
16:31 dirt roads all the way up to the sugarcane field.
16:34 And as we pull up to this makeshift church,
16:36 it didn't even have a proper roof
16:37 and didn't even have walls in it,
16:39 it had just logs for benches.
16:40 And the children were singing.
16:42 The children were singing, all the quire was out in front,
16:44 and the people were waiting for us in the hot burning sun.
16:47 And before we get even open the door,
16:49 they were opening the doors and pulling us out
16:51 and hugging us and receiving us.
16:53 And I'll tell you, they really taught us a lot about,
16:58 you know, humility as well as,
17:00 you know, how to take care of people.
17:01 Hospitality was just blown away.
17:04 And that's the way they treated us until we left,
17:06 and we had powerful opportunities
17:08 and presentations to give.
17:10 Yeah, I think we came back with our lives changed.
17:12 Yeah.
17:14 Because of this, you know, in every step of the way,
17:16 I had prayed because I wasn't real sure,
17:20 but with the answer to every prayer...
17:21 Yeah. It was just crazy.
17:23 I mean, we didn't have the funding
17:24 and it was amazing how God opened that door,
17:28 you know, the funding came through,
17:29 we were able to take a videographer with us
17:32 so that we're able to capture what transpired on this trip.
17:36 And so that it was just
17:37 an inspiring awesome experience.
17:40 Also important for people to remember
17:42 when you have spiritual highs,
17:43 you can sometimes return home
17:46 and experience kind of a plateau
17:49 and that bothered both of us,
17:50 but through our communication on the phone,
17:52 we prayed through it,
17:54 we got our connection back with God
17:55 and know that he has other great things
17:58 planned for us too.
17:59 Ron, you recently had an adventure
18:03 where it took you to Rio de Janeiro.
18:06 Is that right?
18:07 Yes.
18:09 My book had been translated into Portuguese last year
18:12 for the country of Brazil.
18:14 And the publisher brought my wife
18:18 and myself down there for three weeks
18:21 on a speaking tour.
18:23 He had us booked every single day
18:26 for three weeks,
18:28 sometimes five and six presentations in one day.
18:32 Wow.
18:33 It was an amazing experience because it was Rio de Janeiro
18:37 and Sao Paulo, Campinas and around in that area.
18:42 But what was so striking to my wife and myself
18:45 was that homosexuality was so open and so prevalent.
18:50 And they told us that it's everywhere, in fact,
18:52 as we were presenting at the university,
18:55 the huge university there,
18:59 one of the professors in the theology department
19:02 was having lunch with us one day,
19:04 and he said, "You know, pastor Ron,
19:06 in all of my classes," now, these are theology classes.
19:10 He said, "I have at least two or three
19:13 openly practicing homosexuals in every single class.
19:17 And they just like in so many places,
19:21 they don't know what to do about it,
19:22 they don't know how to deal with it."
19:24 And as we were able to share to see how they realized,
19:29 yes, this is something that can be overcome to.
19:32 They were praising the Lord that we do have resources
19:35 and within our own denomination
19:36 and this is what we're providing is...
19:38 Amen.
19:39 Seminars and resources
19:43 and presentations of all different types.
19:46 And it was just an incredible experience
19:48 because everyday someone would come to me privately
19:51 and we would spend a long time counseling
19:53 because they were either gay or coming out of it,
19:56 going into it, or had been out of it
19:59 and ministering too.
20:01 We have brothers and sisters like ourselves
20:03 already ministering in Brazil
20:05 that have come out and walking victorious
20:07 in the Lord.
20:08 And we need to connect with these people...
20:09 Yes. And enlarge our borders.
20:11 Amen.
20:12 You know, as I experienced redemption from homosexuality,
20:16 I began to speak with church leadership
20:19 and members from our denominational conference.
20:24 And you know,
20:25 there was little bit of skepticism out first,
20:28 and I began to talk to my parents about this,
20:31 they kind of wanted to know, why was this rising up divided,
20:34 I have this passion to go out and speak about this.
20:37 And the fact of the matter is this that the silence
20:40 I just felt couldn't be left that way any more,
20:43 and I said, you know,
20:44 when I lived in the gay culture,
20:47 I had the impression in my heart
20:49 still that God was trying to tell me something
20:52 about this not being right
20:53 and I couldn't see myself as a gay activist.
20:56 And so when God convicted my heart
20:59 and won me back to Him,
21:01 I said, you know, "I will live for you whatever cost,
21:04 I will be an activist for Jesus Christ
21:06 'cause there is no shame in that.
21:08 And God will protect me,
21:10 until he sees that He's finished with me."
21:13 Redeemed activist. That's right.
21:15 A redeemed activist.
21:18 So, you know,
21:20 if God's impressing you to make this invitation,
21:24 you know, I invite you to get in touch with us.
21:27 You can reach us by going to our website
21:30 at comingoutministries.org.
21:33 And I'm wondering if you guys have some other things
21:36 that you would like to share about this ministry
21:38 that might be on your hearts.
21:40 One thing that actually blew me away about Africa,
21:43 and I failed to mention it before was,
21:46 all of a sudden, it was the first day we were there,
21:47 we've been ministering all the day at the church.
21:49 And someone asked us
21:51 just speak to eight to ten young girls
21:53 about sexual purity.
21:54 We were so jet lagged, I was so exhausted.
21:57 I couldn't understand the translator,
21:58 but he kept saying that thing about...
22:00 Just saying no to FGM. Yes, FGM.
22:03 And I thought it was female genital manipulation,
22:06 but he was saying, female genital mutilation.
22:08 Right.
22:09 And here, God opened up this opportunity,
22:11 when I got there,
22:12 wasn't 8 to 10 girls, it was 400...
22:15 Amazing.
22:16 Young girls between 5 and 18 years old,
22:18 then I was in shock
22:19 'cause we didn't bring the projector
22:21 I just had, you know, my hand held in.
22:23 And I said, "Lord, what am I going to do?"
22:24 And it's like this anointing
22:25 just came and He said, "Mike, you were raised
22:28 by a single mother and three sisters,
22:29 you know how to talk to women.
22:31 Just tell them how much I love them."
22:34 And so I just poured out to them this love
22:36 that each one of them God loved
22:38 and that was so incredible
22:40 the way that I don't even have to be prepared,
22:42 the Bible talks about how,
22:44 don't worry about what you're going to say,
22:45 that the Holy Spirit will give you adherence,
22:47 and He truly did and that I know
22:50 we've all experienced
22:52 and that just keeps us knowing that
22:53 God is moving this ministry.
22:55 Yeah.
22:56 And He's got great things in store.
22:57 I'm amazed everyday as I go to check my email.
23:00 I never know what God has planned,
23:02 but it's amazing the emails
23:04 that are coming and included in that are the invitations
23:08 that come to us and so if you're contemplating this,
23:11 you know, I just suggest you that you not fear
23:15 but you pray and ask for God's guidance
23:17 because He wants you to stand up for Him,
23:21 and to let the Holy Spirit use you
23:24 to bring the reality of the redemption
23:26 that's available for everyone.
23:30 You know, Wayne, you're asking us
23:31 about our availability and more about Coming Out Ministries,
23:35 what we have to offer.
23:36 And I would just like to say to our viewing audience
23:40 that we're available in any combination.
23:43 We go places individually.
23:46 Wayne is from Washington, Mike is from Tennessee,
23:50 I'm from the heart of the country,
23:51 Arkansas,
23:52 and we go in pairs or all three of us individually
23:56 to do seminars, sermons, testimonials,
24:02 all kinds of presentations in schools,
24:04 in churches and other institutions
24:06 and events like camp meetings and conventions and so forth.
24:09 The reason this is so important
24:12 that what we're trying to offer is,
24:14 this is now a global issue.
24:16 Homosexuality is a global issue,
24:17 and we read in Luke 17:28,
24:21 "Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot,"
24:23 coupled with verse 30,
24:25 "Even thus shall it be in the day
24:26 when the son of man is revealed."
24:29 This is an in time issue, a global issue,
24:33 and we see everywhere we go, even Africa and places
24:38 where you wouldn't think it was an issue.
24:40 It's a major issue
24:42 and so we just want to appeal to the viewing audience
24:45 to have us come and do some of our ministry
24:49 in your venue.
24:50 That's right.
24:52 And something I'd like to add to that, Ron,
24:54 is that none of us--
24:56 That's right.
24:58 And so it's only been at expenses for accommodations
25:01 and for travel and when we're there, there are people
25:03 that have lent us support
25:05 or they have taken a love offering
25:07 and God has blessed us in this
25:08 because we believe that
25:10 we don't want to let anything get in the way
25:13 of God providing this message to however poor or rich
25:17 and environment is that we're walking into.
25:21 Anything, Mike, that you'd like to say
25:23 about this ministry before this program closes today?
25:26 I had no idea,
25:28 the goodness of God to move us this far, this fast.
25:30 Amen.
25:31 It was just what, two years ago less.
25:33 And two years ago that we had met for the first time.
25:36 And you know, Ron, I was handed your book
25:39 and not long after I come back to the Lord,
25:41 and I really resonated with the early years
25:45 and identifying some of the characteristics
25:47 says to why, I went through what is did.
25:49 So we know that there needs to be more resources out there.
25:52 We're passionate about bringing to young people,
25:56 old people like.
25:57 We want to educate church communities
25:59 to be a safe atmosphere
26:01 for those that are sexually defiled,
26:02 not just the homosexual...
26:03 Amen.
26:05 But for those who are struggling
26:06 with pornography addiction,
26:08 sexual addiction of any kind
26:09 because we know that
26:10 God is wrapping up this work quickly.
26:12 We know that his latter rain is being poured out,
26:13 and we want to get that message out
26:15 so we can go home.
26:16 That's right. Amen.
26:18 That's what I, you know... Yeah.
26:19 That's why I think that we're so passionate about this.
26:20 Yeah, there is a lot of people
26:22 still with certain amount of blindness thinking...
26:25 I know when I came back into the church
26:28 where I'm today, it was thought that there would...
26:30 this message wouldn't effect anybody in this church,
26:33 and I mean, a church with 850 people.
26:36 And so, you know, how would you know
26:38 in this deaf silence what it's been?
26:42 And so I think it's an active faith to believe
26:45 that God is able to reach people
26:47 in your own congregation
26:49 and in your silence
26:50 what's happening in the political arena
26:54 or in the civil world is that we're seeing this issue,
26:59 you know, take the headlines
27:00 and so I don't think we can afford to be silent
27:03 about this in churches, in schools or anywhere,
27:07 you know, that a redeemed voice might be able to go.
27:13 I want to say too that,
27:14 you know, in our going around the globe
27:19 and going into all these places,
27:21 we solicit your prayers, we need them...
27:23 Yes. So very, very much.
27:25 We need the protection of the blood of Jesus Christ.
27:28 He's done so much for us,
27:30 and we can only be amazed
27:31 at what He's able to do for others.
27:34 So as we wrap up this program today,
27:37 I would just like to ask you to keep watching Pure Choices
27:40 and to keep making pure choices.
27:43 It's been my pleasure to be here
27:44 with Coming Out Ministries
27:46 and to be a part of Dare to Dream
27:48 and a part of Pure Choices.
27:50 Thank you.


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