Participants: Ivor Myers (Host), James Rafferty (Host), Jason Bradley, Yvonne Lewis
Series Code: SISS
Program Code: SISS000001A
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00:30 How exciting is this?
00:32 We're going to be studying the Book of Revelation 00:35 Yvonne: I know... 00:36 This is the culmination of months, 00:39 maybe even... over a year... huh, Yvonne, 00:41 Yvonne: I think so. James: of daring to dream. 00:44 Yvonne: Yes, come on now, come on... come on... ah ha... 00:48 we talked about this actually 00:49 originally... before all of us ended up sitting here together 00:53 we talked about this with a man by the name of Will Pergerson 00:57 and Will was a personal friend of mine 01:00 and of Christ's... he had a vision, a dream, 01:05 he was an Evangelist, a powerful Speaker, a man of God 01:08 and he envisioned a dream for the Book of Revelation 01:11 and explaining the Book of Revelation 01:14 with a very strong emphasis on Christ 01:17 and I believe that Will would have been here with us 01:20 of course, I know he would have been here with us today 01:24 this is... what he wanted but... 01:25 a tragic accident took his life last year 01:28 and we want to dedicate this first program to Will 01:31 and we know he's resting in Christ 01:35 and we know that he is going to hear the voice of Christ 01:39 and that trumpet call in the morning 01:41 and he's going to be there, we will not lose him... 01:44 it says in 1st Thessalonians chapter 4, 01:47 well, this program is 01:49 going to be pretty basic, pretty simple, 01:53 we're going to be opening up the Book of Revelation, 01:55 we're going to be looking through the pages, the verses 01:58 and trying to understand it. 02:00 Now, I come from a background 02:01 of studying this Book for some... 30 years... 02:05 and yet not really understanding it fully still 02:09 and I believe that's because the Book is a masterpiece, 02:11 it's... it's a challenging Book 02:13 and I think we're going to be studying throughout all eternity 02:16 it's a summary of the entire Bible in a way 02:18 but it is a Book that's filled with symbolic languages, 02:21 a Book that's filled with mysterious representations 02:25 of events and history, past, present and future, 02:28 it's a Book that is difficult to understand, 02:31 a Book that's been blessed 02:33 because God wants to encourage us to study and to understand it 02:36 so I'm here at the table 02:38 with that background, 02:40 and I want to know a little bit about your backgrounds 02:42 and your relationship to it, 02:43 but Jason, let's start with you. 02:44 Well, I'm relatively new to the church... coming back 02:48 and Revelation is a Book that's full of symbols and signs 02:52 and it's... it's... confusing to me, 02:55 I mean there is a lot of... it's kind of like a treasure map 02:59 because we're trying to figure out what times... 03:02 what kingdom does this symbol represent 03:05 what are the seven stars, what are the seven candlesticks, 03:08 what are... what are all these things, 03:09 so I'm looking forward to learning about Revelation. 03:15 James: Super... I love it... I love it... 03:16 Yeah, I'm... I guess... I have read Revelation 03:22 more than one time 03:23 and I still don't have the kind of grasp on it that I want, 03:29 I feel like... even though I've read it... 03:33 even though I read a commentary on it, 03:36 I still don't have that feeling of... you know... 03:41 that I really kind of know... know it 03:43 and I guess to kind of reinforce what you were saying, 03:48 I guess you never fully know it 03:50 but I can have a better grasp on it 03:52 so I think that there are a lot of people 03:55 who... you know... who have read through it 03:57 like I have but they just... 03:59 kind of still don't really know 04:00 so, I'm looking forward to this study 04:03 because I really feel like this is going to open it up 04:06 in a whole new way, praise the Lord, 04:09 especially with the Holy Spirit, amen. 04:11 James: Amen... good deal... 04:13 So, my introduction to the Book of Revelation 04:15 came when I was a... 12-years old... 04:19 and I was not a Christian, 04:22 I had a cousin that had a co-worker from England 04:27 and she began to talk to me about the Mark of the Beast. 04:33 At 12-years old... I had seen this movie 04:39 about this little boy 04:41 who discovers he's the Antichrist 04:43 and anyone who finds out his identity... 04:50 he dies a mysterious death 04:52 so she's there telling me, 04:55 "Hey, I know what the Mark of the Beast is... 04:57 do you want to know what the Mark of the Beast is?" 04:59 And I'm like... "Oh my goodness... 05:00 if I know what the Mark of the Beast is, 05:03 I'm going to die... " 05:04 Yvonne: Oh! you're taking that movie seriously, huh? 05:07 She told me it was the... 05:09 there were soap companies that produced 05:12 or soap companies that had a label on their boxes 05:18 half circle, 05:19 half a circle with a half moon and a man's face in it, 05:24 she showed me the box... I ran out the house screaming... 05:29 "I'm about to die... " 05:32 that was my introduction to the Book of Revelation 05:35 but... and that kind of put a taste in my... 05:39 after I didn't die... I was like, 05:42 "Okay, man! I think I want to know more about this Book" 05:44 and so it was years later... as a... as a... 05:50 actually as a young adult, it was probably like 21 or 22... 05:53 that I was introduced to the Book in a way that I... 05:58 I'd grown up really skeptical of the Bible 06:01 and someone introduced the Book to me... 06:05 I didn't know his background but he 06:06 was a well-learned young man... 06:09 in the Book of Revelation... and he began to like... 06:12 break things down in a way that 06:14 really caused me to walk away from a contract that I was in... 06:21 in a Music career, 06:23 and it was so powerful... so amazing 06:25 that I actually walked away from this contract 06:27 never to look back 06:30 so the Book of Revelation has become a... 06:33 one of the Books that for me 06:35 is the most exciting Book of the Bible. 06:38 It just... and I know there's a lot of fear 06:42 with people when they come to that 06:44 but... like I was when I was 12... 06:45 you know, "I want to know this stuff 06:47 because there's dragons and... 06:48 things are going to come up out of the ocean! 06:50 I don't want to be here when that happens. " 06:53 But understanding that these things represent 06:56 symbols and signs of greater realities 07:00 and that there's not going to be like a literal locust 07:03 that looked like men and those kinds of things, 07:07 once I got that understanding and the Book became 07:11 my favorite Book of the Bible... so... 07:14 Mine too... mine too... I can totally relate to that... 07:20 and that's why I think this is going to be exciting 07:22 because... okay you have that interest 07:25 in the Book of Revelation, you love the Book of Revelation, 07:27 now I have that same interest and the desire... 07:30 Jason is a novice when it comes to the Book of Revelation 07:34 he's acknowledging, 07:35 "Hey, I really don't get this Book 07:36 I mean it's full of signs and symbols... but I don't get it" 07:38 and Yvonne has read it a few times 07:40 and you've got a grasp on it but yeah... 07:42 I'd like to know a little bit better 07:43 and I think you guys are going to help moderate us 07:46 and together, we're going to be able to 07:48 move through this Book in a way 07:49 that should open up more and more understanding... 07:53 because, I believe the Holy Spirit 07:56 wants to teach all of God's people 07:58 and when we get together even more so 08:00 the Holy Spirit wants to teach you, you, you and me 08:03 and now four times as much 08:05 because all four of us are together. 08:06 Yvonne: Yeah, yeah. 08:08 And I believe that this Book is a Book for the end of times 08:11 specifically and specially now, 08:12 we're going to look at the Book, we're going to break it down 08:15 just as an overview... just to kind of... 08:17 to make it into more bite-sized pieces, 08:20 sometimes when you... 08:21 when you come into the Book of Revelation 08:23 like... "Where do I start?" 08:24 You know... and how do I get even a grip on this? 08:26 Well, we're going to break it down into four basic sections 08:29 with an introduction and a close, 08:32 the introduction is going to be Revelation chapter one 08:35 that's the introduction to the Book... and... 08:38 I'm going to add to that... 08:39 I think one of the things that people look at 08:44 when they get to the Book of Revelation 08:45 is that... they think it's a Book that's really just 08:48 out of order... that there's no rhythm or rhyme to it 08:52 but when you understand that the Book of Revelation 08:55 is... I like to call it... "Divinely Designed" 08:58 that's when you begin to see, "Oh, there is meaning to this " 09:02 and you just can't fit anything in there, 09:04 it has to follow the pattern so when I was 19... 09:08 I had an experience that I've never forgotten, 09:11 I share this all the time, 09:12 I don't know if you've ever seen those pictures 09:14 that are just like zigzag lines 09:17 and... well let me tell you about it... 09:19 I'm in the mall with my friends 09:21 and where... I see all these people around this picture 09:24 and they're going, "Oh, look at that, look at it" 09:25 so they caught my interest, I went over there, 09:27 and it's just zigzag lines... 09:30 and I'm looking at these people like, 09:32 "You are crazy... what do you see?" 09:34 And then someone said, 09:36 "No... no... you have to do this thing with your eyes" 09:38 and I was like, "Do what?" and they were like... 09:40 "You got to focus on a particular... " 09:41 so I'm trying to do all these things with my eyes 09:43 and then suddenly... 09:46 I don't know if I focused in on one point 09:49 or what happened but that picture that was just zigzag... 09:52 zigzag lines suddenly became 3D... 09:54 when I moved... the picture moved 09:57 and now I was like, "What? Do you see this?" 10:01 So to many people, the Book of Revelation 10:04 it's just zigzag lines, 10:07 "I can't see anything, I mean, where is the... 10:10 what are you getting so excited about, James?" 10:12 But when you see that there's a pattern to the Book 10:17 and that's what we'll be talking about 10:19 at least in this opening lesson, 10:20 when we see the pattern to the Book, 10:22 we see that there was One behind that pattern, 10:25 a Divine Designer and that pattern really helps 10:28 to make things come alive... 10:30 come alive... in like... 3D for us... if you would. 10:34 So, we'll be covering those patterns 10:37 and hopefully that will bring it to life. 10:40 Yes, I love that and again... 10:43 it reminds me of when I was first studying 10:45 the Book of Revelation 10:46 and I decided to rewrite it... in order 10:48 I wanted to put all the second comings in order, 10:50 and I wanted to put all the judgments in order, 10:52 and I wanted to put everything about Christ in order... 10:54 so... because it wasn't written in order, 10:55 I don't know who put this together, 10:57 I don't know who inspired this Book and put it in this order 11:01 but you know... it needed to be... 11:02 and since then I've realized 11:04 the more I've studied the Book of Revelation, 11:06 the more I've realized 11:08 how little I know about the Book, 11:10 so, I don't think any of us should be 11:13 handicapped by the idea 11:17 that, "Hey, we're just not scholarly, 11:18 this book is just too much for us, 11:20 this is too difficult" 11:21 it's kind of like, Ivor, 11:23 when he first looked at that painting, he's like, 11:25 "I'm not getting anything out of this, 11:26 man, everyone else is... but I'm not... " 11:27 sometimes, we come to the Book of Revelation that way 11:30 and we don't need to feel as though 11:33 we're on the outside, 11:35 "Oh, that guy knows all about Revelation... 11:37 I'll just sit at his feet, I'll just learn what he... " 11:38 No, God wants to actually communicate to us... 11:42 all of us... and show us what this book means, 11:45 now one of the keys, I think, 11:48 to understand the Book of Revelation is 11:50 to break it down into these sections 11:52 and to allow Christ to be the center, 11:55 that is something that I know was on Will Pergerson's heart, 11:58 Pastor Pergerson's heart, 11:59 and I know it's on Ivor's heart, it's on my heart, 12:01 when we look at the Book of Revelation, 12:04 sometimes we do think about these gloomy pictures, 12:07 we think about negative things, 12:08 Martin Luther wrote 12:10 an introduction to the Book of Revelation 12:12 in the year 1522 and in that introduction 12:15 he said, "Ah... the Book of Revelation 12:17 doesn't really belong to the canon 12:20 it shouldn't even be part of the Bible, 12:21 Christ isn't there, you know, 12:24 He's not known in there, He's not taught in there," 12:27 but, you know, it was a part... 12:28 so he wrote this introduction 12:30 he talked about the Book of Revelation, eight years later, 12:32 Martin Luther changed his opinion. 12:34 Eight years later in his... in his 12:37 editing of the introduction of Revelation he said, 12:39 "We see now that Christ is both taught 12:42 and center of the Book of Revelation. " 12:45 And that was, I think, a breaking point for Luther 12:48 that really was where his mind now was able to 12:51 grasp the prophecies of Revelation 12:52 because in a nutshell, just in a nutshell, 12:55 what Revelation is doing... 12:56 it's introducing us to Christ and the gospel 12:59 and then introducing us to that power... that influence 13:03 that is symbolized by a dragon 13:04 that is going to counterfeit Christ and the gospel. 13:07 That's it in a nutshell. 13:09 It's Christ and the gospel, here's the gospel, 13:12 here's Christ, here's how it all works 13:13 now, be aware of this dragon 13:16 because he has actually come down 13:17 and he's trying to take from you what Christ has given to you 13:21 and he's trying to counterfeit 13:23 everything that Christ has established 13:24 and we're going to see that, 13:26 all through Revelation, we're going to see the truth 13:27 counterfeit, the truth... counterfeit... 13:29 truth... counterfeit... in all the symbols. 13:30 I would say the best way to understand really... 13:36 any subject of the Bible, is, "How can I juice this down, 13:41 if you will, to a level that... 13:45 I can explain it in a minute," you know, 13:47 so just like what we've just heard, 13:49 "Okay, really, it's about Christ and the dragon 13:51 and them warring over the people of God, 13:56 over humanity... " you know, at the... 13:59 the more ways you can sum it up for your own self, 14:04 the better... you begin to feel more comfortable 14:06 approaching the Book because now you're going to be 14:09 trying to trace that theme right, okay, so, 14:14 Christ, dragon, people, 14:16 where will I find that in Revelation one, 14:17 Revelation two, Revelation three, 14:19 going all the way through so the more you can... 14:22 you can... you can find these patterns, 14:25 these parallels, these themes, 14:28 and then you now have something, 14:31 you can trace through the whole book. 14:33 Yvonne: Hmmm... hmmm... James: Love it... 14:35 Instead of just jumping in and 14:37 around and reading Revelation 11, 14:38 where does this fit? what is it about? 14:41 without the theme or without the context, 14:44 yeah, it's zigzag lines. 14:46 James: Well, let's look at that, Jason, would you read for us 14:48 Revelation chapter 1 and verse 5? 14:49 Jason: Sure. 14:51 And we'll just pick this out here in this verse. 14:53 "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, 14:56 and the first begotten of the dead, 14:58 and the prince of the kings of the earth. 15:00 Unto him that loved us, 15:06 and washed us from our sins in his own blood. " 15:09 Now, what Ivor was just saying applies to this verse, 15:12 what we have here is we have a picture of Christ, 15:15 and we have a picture of Satan and we have a picture of us, 15:18 okay, the picture of Christ is a picture of love 15:21 and by-the-way, it's really interesting 15:23 a few years ago, there was a CNN Blog, 15:26 they have a religious blog on CNN 15:28 and in this blog, it was March of 2012, 15:32 they had interviewed, basically, 15:34 a Scholar, Biblical Scholar 15:38 and asked him about the Book of Revelation 15:40 and this Biblical Scholar said, 15:42 "Basically, the Book of Revelation 15:43 was forced in the canon... " 15:44 kind of like what Martin Luther came up with, 15:46 "it was forced into the canon, it doesn't really belong there, 15:48 we don't even know if John was the author 15:50 and we don't know if the author read even the gospels 15:53 and there's nowhere in the book of Revelation, 15:55 it even says that Jesus died for our sins... " 15:57 and the thing that got me about that 16:01 is, that really brought home to me is... 16:04 because really, Revelation chapter 1 and verse 5, 16:07 the verse that you just read, Jason, 16:09 tells us that Jesus Christ died for us, 16:10 loves us and washed us from our sins... 16:12 that's the gospel right there, 16:13 so when this "Scholar" who was interviewed on CNN said this, 16:17 I said, "Wow! so much for scholarship... 16:19 so much for scholarship" 16:21 in other words, we don't need to depend on the scholars 16:24 when we open up the Book of Revelation, 16:26 in fact... it might be good not to depend on the scholars. 16:29 See, that's really good thing to think about because 16:31 you kind of ordinarily think, 16:34 "I've got to have somebody break it down for me" 16:37 we're kind of doing that here but yet 16:41 we're asking the Holy Spirit to guide us 16:44 and so in our private study too, 16:47 we can ask the Holy Spirit to guide us 16:49 but this does... I've never noticed this before, 16:52 this verse has the gospel. 16:53 James: It's John 3:16. 16:55 Yvonne: I love the idea of finding Christ 16:59 in this Book, in every nook and cranny 17:03 that we can because... it gives it a new meaning 17:07 now we're not just focusing on the dark side, 17:11 right, but now we're focusing on 17:14 the love of Jesus and what He did 17:17 and how He's going to protect us in the end 17:20 and all of that, so to me, 17:22 that's... that's... that's awesome... 17:24 to find Jesus in every... in every nook and cranny. 17:28 And that is definitely important 17:30 what you guys are saying about learning... 17:32 you have to learn it for yourself 17:33 because somebody else might get it wrong 17:38 and they're teaching you wrong, 17:39 you need to learn for yourself what truth is. 17:43 James: Amen, absolutely, now... 17:45 Ivor: And I'm going to share this is that 17:48 the fact that the Bible, I believe, is divinely designed 17:52 is a way of actually checking your conclusions 17:56 because, just like a Math problem, 17:58 you do a Math problem and then you reverse the problem 18:00 and see if you got it right, 18:02 the Bible... especially the Book of Revelation, 18:05 has those built in mechanisms where you can see, 18:09 am I right on this or am I wrong? 18:11 You know, because as you... 18:13 it's got to fit in the pattern, 18:15 if you understand the big picture, the pattern, 18:17 you know, "Well, I can't fit this in there 18:20 because that just throws off the entire pattern, 18:24 the entire design... " 18:26 and so, all those things come into play, 18:28 but what he's saying about this... 18:30 the gospel being in Revelation chapter 1 verse 5, 18:34 is a beautiful thought, you know, the first chapter, 18:38 you have the gospel 18:39 and we should be looking for that theme... 18:42 James: All the way through. Ivor: Straight through. 18:44 Because an introduction to any good book, 18:47 introduces the theme of the book. 18:50 So what was the theme of the book? 18:52 Well, Revelation 1:1, 18:53 it's the Revelation of Jesus Christ, 18:55 who loved us and washed us from our sins 18:57 in His blood and here's the conflict... 18:58 you were talking about the conflict, 18:59 we were talking about the summary of the Book... 19:01 you have Jesus and you have the devil 19:04 and you have us, 19:06 where is the devil in this verse? 19:07 who washes from our sins, where did sin come from? 19:10 Well, sin came from the devil, 19:12 sin came from that adversary who tempted Adam and Eve 19:16 who began the whole process of... if you will... 19:19 rebellion in the universe which, by-the-way is... 19:22 in a sense the... the zenith of the Book of Revelation, 19:25 chapter 12, it gives us a picture 19:27 of this whole great controversy 19:28 and how it started in heaven, 19:30 so Revelation 1:5 also introduces, in a sense, 19:34 to that dark side, 19:35 to sin and guilt and shame 19:37 and the thing that led us to hide from God, 19:39 and be afraid of God 19:41 and Jesus wants us to know right away... 19:43 the first thing he wants us to know, 19:45 right away in Revelation, first message of Revelation... 19:47 it's not about a beast, 19:48 it's not about an Antichrist, it's not about a dragon, 19:50 the first thing He wants us to know is, 19:51 "I love you and I've washed you 19:52 and I've taken care of the guilt 19:54 I've taken care of the sin, 19:55 I've taken care of the very thing 19:57 that was brought upon you 19:58 by venturing into that good and evil 20:01 that knowledge I didn't want you to have 20:02 and listening to the accusations... the insinuations 20:06 of the dragon which was the serpent which is the devil, 20:10 I've cleansed you from that, I've washed you from that, 20:13 I accept you, I believe in you, 20:15 you are mine... " 20:16 and this is the picture we're having here 20:18 it is... I think it's so significant and beautiful... 20:22 I want to take you on a very quick... just all of you... 20:26 of that very theme in the Book of Revelation 20:29 and it was interesting 20:31 because as James and I were talking 20:33 and sharing some of these, some of our different thoughts, 20:36 before our Program and we were just like... 20:39 we never really studied the Book of Revelation together 20:41 but we were amazed at how much... 20:43 we were like, "Whoa, we are on the same page, 20:47 are we seeing this in the very same way" 20:49 but one of the things that we were sharing is that 20:53 the Book of Revelation, 20:55 and this is how I'd like to put it, 20:56 is actually a love story... 20:58 Yvonne: Hmmm... 21:00 so when you put that for me... 21:01 what? Revelation a love story? No it's not... 21:03 it's about beasts and dragons bringing fear about... 21:05 the Book of Revelation is about... 21:08 James: So are love stories by-the-way... 21:11 Christ rescues the woman from the dragon... 21:13 Ivor: What do you have... 21:15 you have the Prince, Jesus Christ, 21:17 you have His Bride... the Church... 21:20 and you have this power saying, 21:22 "Give me some time with your woman 21:24 and I bet you, I can take her... " 21:27 Yvonne: Wow... 21:28 Ivor: That's basically what he's saying... 21:29 so the entire Book of Revelation, 21:32 that theme of Christ, His Bride and the dragon saying, 21:37 "I'm going to steal her from you... " 21:39 so Revelation becomes a love story 21:41 and now, just think of it, 21:43 when you think of the Book of Revelation, 21:45 within that context, 21:46 we know that in Revelation chapter 1 21:49 you have John... who is... 21:51 who Jesus says, "John, I want you to... 21:53 I'm calling you to do something for me... " 21:55 So, John, in essence... 21:57 we can look at him as the friend of the bridegroom, 21:59 okay, then in chapters 2 and 3... 22:02 you have the letters to the seven churches 22:04 so what are those? 22:05 Those are Jesus' love letters to His bride. 22:09 Okay, in Chapters 4 and 5... 22:11 you have Jesus standing before the Father, 22:13 but what is He doing there? 22:15 He is standing there on behalf of His bride, right? 22:19 Chapter 6 deals with the... with the seals... 22:25 Okay, here... you see the story of how Satan 22:29 is trying to corrupt the Bride, 22:31 trying to lead her away from her love, 22:35 Revelation Chapter 7, 22:37 you have the sealing of the people of God, 22:39 so, what is that sealing? 22:41 It's really the perfecting of God's... of Jesus' Bride. 22:45 Okay, Revelation 8 to 11 are the trumpets... 22:48 what is Jesus doing there? 22:50 In the trumpets, He is protecting His Bride 22:53 throughout the ages, right? 22:54 From the time of the cross, which we'll get into more detail 22:57 but this is just an overview, 22:59 Revelation 12 to 13, 23:02 you have Satan physically assaulting the Bride. 23:05 Going to make war with the Remnant of her seed... 23:08 "I'm going to persecute you, 23:09 and I'm going to demonstrate 23:11 that this woman doesn't love you" 23:12 so I'm going to institute something called 23:13 "The Mark of the Beast" and I'll bet you 23:16 that to save herself, she'll receive it. 23:18 Jason: Wow! Yvonne: Hmmm... 23:20 James: Those are the basic sections of Revelation, 23:22 you've got the seven churches, 23:23 the seven seals, the seven trumpets... 23:24 and then in that last section 23:26 which we call, "The seven signs of salvation" 23:27 those are four basic... 23:29 and all of those sections repeat and enlarge 23:31 they tell the same story from a different angle. 23:33 It's very similar to Daniel, 23:35 Daniel 2, 7, 8 and 11 are four chapters 23:39 that repeat and enlarge... on the same basic theme, 23:41 so you got an introduction in Revelation 1 23:44 and you've got a close in Revelation 22, 23:46 and then you've got these four basic themes... 23:48 or stories that are told from different angles 23:51 covering the same ground 23:52 and giving more insight and more understanding 23:55 until we finally get to this picture 23:57 in Revelation 12, 13, 14 and onward... 23:59 that I think, primarily applies to us today 24:03 and in the future to us... 24:05 in other words... that is just before us... 24:08 And James, the story ends happily ever after. 24:10 Jason: See, I've never heard it broken down like that before. 24:14 Yvonne: Oh Wow! I love it. 24:15 Christ comes to take His Bride, comes to take His Bride home 24:18 after He saves her... saves the day... 24:20 those plagues... really... the plagues at the end of time, 24:25 are really, God saying, 24:26 "You're not going to touch my woman, 24:28 how dare you try to put a hand on her?" 24:31 so the plagues are God's... or Christ saying... 24:34 "I'm protecting her... " He comes to get the Bride, 24:36 goes home with her to a wedding... 24:39 happily ever after. 24:41 Wow! you know, wow, that is so deep, 24:44 one Author has said, 24:46 "If a man is really in love with a woman, 24:49 he'll do the three P's, he'll protect her, 24:52 he'll provide for her and he'll profess her" 24:55 and Jesus does all of that. 24:58 James: I like that... 24:59 that wraps up the picture really well, 25:02 so when we're looking at the Book of Revelation, 25:04 Ivor, you're going to say something? 25:06 Let's go into the... into the... sections. 25:10 Yeah, when we're looking at the Book of Revelation, 25:12 we're going to be looking at these four sections 25:14 Revelation Chapter one 25:16 is what we wall the Introduction or the Prologue, 25:18 Revelation Chapters 2 and 3... Seven Churches... 25:22 Revelation Chapters 4 through 8:1... Seven Seals, 25:26 Revelation Chapter 8 verse 2 25:29 to Revelation 11:19... Seven Trumpets... 25:31 and then Revelation Chapter 12 25:33 all the way to 22 and verse 5, 25:35 is what we call the "Seven Salvation Signs" 25:38 and we'll talk a little bit about what we mean by that 25:41 and in Revelation Chapter 22:6, all the way through 22:21, 25:45 that's going to be the Epilogue or the Close... 25:47 that's going to be the basic layout of the Book of Revelation 25:51 that we're going to be looking at 25:52 as we move through it step by step... 25:54 and in our next Program, 25:55 we just got a couple of minutes left here, 25:57 time has flown by, 25:58 but in our next Program, we're going to do 26:01 an introduction and we're just going to spend 26:03 as much time as we need in Revelation Chapter 1, 26:06 we kind of touched on it a little bit 26:08 but we're going to start in Revelation Chapter 1 now, 26:11 our goal for this series, this first series, 26:13 on Bible Prophecy, 26:15 our goal is to make it half way through the Book, 26:19 Ivor and I talked about it, we sat down 26:20 and we... over the phone and we went through 26:23 a number of different 26:24 sessions together, outlines... and we thought... 26:26 "How far can we get in the first session? 26:28 Can we cover the whole book? No, we can't cover... 26:30 there's no way we're going to cover the whole book... 26:31 what about half way through? 26:33 Yeah, let's make that a goal... " 26:34 so our goal is to get through Revelation 11... 26:36 to make it to Revelation 12 verse 1, 26:38 however, we are not cemented into that goal, 26:42 we don't have to get there, we're just going to move through 26:45 if we only get to Chapter 2, 26:47 in the whole 13 Sessions, that's fine, 26:50 if we get further than that, that's fine too. 26:52 What we'd like to do is, we would like to make sure 26:55 that you guys... Yvonne, Jason... 26:57 that you are moderating us, 26:59 we want to be able to move through this Book, 27:01 no faster than you guys can comprehend it 27:04 and we want to be able to understand and explain it 27:07 in the sense that anyone that's just listening in 27:10 on our conversation about this Book, 27:12 is going to get it, it's going to click. 27:13 So, what do you guys think, you think it's a good plan? 27:18 Oh yeah, I think that's great, I like the idea... 27:21 of just not just being forced into a timeline, you know, 27:26 we just get it as we go... as the Spirit moves, we get it. 27:30 Jason: Yeah, because this is heavy stuff. 27:32 Yvonne: Yeah, this is heavy stuff. 27:33 It is, and yet, looking at the illustrations that... 27:37 some of the illustrations that Ivor brought out, 27:39 you know, the love story illustration, 27:41 and the illustration of Christ standing for His Bride... 27:44 while... you know, the dragon... 27:46 looking at these illustrations to me 27:47 really is going to help us to comprehend these truths 27:51 so I'm looking forward to the adventure 27:53 that we're going to have in our Sessions together. 27:55 Yvonne: Yes amen... James: Praise God... 27:56 Let's pray together as we close. 27:58 Father, we just want to thank you for this opportunity 28:01 for this Program, for all You're doing 28:03 and you do and pray that you'll continue to bless us, 28:05 guide us, lead us as we study the Book of Revelation 28:07 we pray in Jesus' name, amen... 28:09 All: Amen... amen... |
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