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00:04 >> I want to 00:17 [MUSIC] 00:26 >> too. 00:31 [MUSIC] 00:36 >> I'm 00:42 >> and 00:47 >> I want to stand 00:52 too. 00:54 [MUSIC] 01:00 [MUSIC] 01:07 >> I'm sheli crammed Jake. Why? We are so thankful that 01:11 you're joining us tonight. You are going to enjoy 3 ABN 01:16 live. 01:17 We have a special guest and I'm not going to belabor this 01:20 point. Let me just go ahead and you produce him cause. He is 01:25 quite well known to our 3, a B, an audience. He's a treat 01:30 hours, Loveland. We're will John Bradshaw and we are going 01:35 to have a wonderful program tonight. So John Bradshaw, 01:39 president of it is written. Thank you for being here. 01:43 Shelley JD, thanks for having me on this of being looking 01:46 forward to this. We have a great night. I you know, 01:49 I was thinking he's given us a title 01:52 for tonight. It is balance colon, 01:57 finding God's path in a world of extreme score. So think 02:02 about this 02:04 in all world, very polarized. 02:06 How do we navigate the tensions of life and all all of these 02:11 extreme center even creeping into the church? It seems that 02:15 society is just becoming very it's very extreme. How do we 02:20 hold arise? This wind? Even these extremes can threaten the 02:26 core value of Christianity. How do we embody the Lord? 02:32 How do we embody what he wants in this fragmented world we 02:38 live in. That's what we're going to learn tonight is 02:41 absolutely. 02:43 >> And I think I think you degree most people would agree 02:45 that it's really important. This is the age of outrage. 02:48 This is the time of extremes. This is the time where if you 02:52 voted for that person, then you can't be my Facebook friend or 02:56 even my friend. We becoming way more extreme even as you sit in 03:01 the church because the church 03:02 regrettably is only ever staple to behind the world. 03:06 People are getting extreme. We'll talk about some of those 03:08 extremes thereof. There's a raft of them, a variety of 03:11 them. And I think 03:12 I think we'll touch on a few key points tonight. Wonderful. 03:15 I want to encourage with the scripture. 03:17 >> I love this scripture. Ah, this is the Lord speaking. 03:20 I say a 42 in for 16. 03:24 He says I will bring the blind by way that they did not know. 03:30 I will leave them in the past. They have not known. I will 03:34 make darkness light before them and crooked places straight. 03:40 These things I will do for them and not for sake them. So even 03:45 though we are facing a conundrum, a dilemma, various 03:50 hope because God's got the answer will find it in his 03:55 word. Well, honey, I know everybody at home loves music. 03:59 I know John is music and stuff like that. 04:03 What are we doing to one of? 04:05 >> A very, very gifted friend of ours. This name is Ryan Day. 04:09 I'm sure that you're familiar with Rhonda. In part a 04:11 beautiful voice he has. He's going to share with us with all 04:15 my heart. 04:16 [MUSIC] 04:21 [MUSIC] 04:26 [MUSIC] 04:32 >> And this cool, I police, too. 04:36 >> I know all the foods rule. 04:40 >> And to boost that for me. 04:44 >> To you. 04:48 >> I secrets to snow. You have not know to my best and all 05:00 around us to. 05:09 [MUSIC] 05:12 >> With fuel. 05:16 >> To and wants to know, you know, 05:23 I'm of 05:27 >> each day to, you know, you know. 05:31 >> All that is too easy. Only 2 miles to own the to all. 05:46 [MUSIC] 05:51 [MUSIC] 05:56 [MUSIC] 05:59 [MUSIC] 06:03 >> You see police in my mind, these cordy to be on the land. 06:11 So help you to see it because things before I see more. 06:18 And and I trust, you know what's best for me going? 06:24 Oh, I don't. This time 06:33 >> info and mobi ends. 06:38 And every most. 06:44 [MUSIC] 06:48 >> And my own. 06:54 >> And one of us who love, you know, and mom. 07:01 >> Each day to know 07:02 [MUSIC] 07:05 all that is is you 07:09 you see on this too. 07:14 >> Hines move you. 07:17 >> We all need to. 07:27 >> 2, 0, 07:29 >> 2. 07:34 >> The 2. 07:36 [MUSIC] 07:41 >> With school. 07:45 [MUSIC] 07:50 [MUSIC] 07:55 [MUSIC] 08:00 [MUSIC] 08:05 [MUSIC] 08:10 >> I think that we can all agree. He is very gifted and 08:14 what I'm missing it with all my heart. Well, if you're joining 08:17 us just a moment tonight, our special guest tonight for her 08:20 life is John Bradshaw. Who is the president of it is written. 08:27 It is written, airs on 3 A B and we've got your 7 school. 08:30 We've got a lot of it is written programs on 3, a B. 08:34 And so, you know, well-known. Yeah, you know the outcome. 08:38 But what I like to do because we have so many new fewer 08:42 years. You have such a fascinating personal testimony. 08:46 Tell us how you came to really have a relationship with the 08:51 Lord. Yeah, that's that's quite. That's quite a story. 08:55 >> I was raised in a religious my dad was a very religious 08:58 man. My mother was not religious at all. She never 09:01 went to church. 09:02 My dad went to church every single solitary Sunday 09:06 other days as well when it was time for that special season of 09:10 the year that we prayed the rosary in people's houses. 09:12 What dad would be did 09:14 only 4 or 5 of 6 people to be there. But my dad would be one 09:17 of them. It was a good size church. He take me from time to 09:20 time. 09:21 I feel like you thought I was going to be a priest was the I 09:24 am still the 7th of 7 children. And so. 09:27 >> You're the Babe. Yeah, yeah. I know that's a lot of mothers. 09:31 Mother say this to light. This is what happened. So John 09:35 says, aha, we know. That's right. That's what, John, 09:39 since that no one else is that this is not say that. 09:43 >> So I was I was right. They went to the Catholic 09:45 school, 5 doors down the street from our house. I love my 09:48 church. Loved going to church. I was an altar boy. I was an 09:53 altar boy at one stage every day for about 2 and a half 09:56 years and every Sunday, I mean, every single day of the week. 10:00 So that was quite a streak I had going. 10:03 But as I got older it, which is some some things that I too 10:07 would told learned that just didn't seem right to me and 10:11 underpinning. All of this was the idea that in order to go to 10:15 heaven, you had to be good 10:17 and I wasn't good. And I did not like the idea of not going 10:21 to have an 10:23 in fact, I'll show you something. I don't often shape 10:25 because it's honestly it's quite grim and I don't want 10:27 anybody to be triggered a ball that or any of those share with 10:31 you 10:33 showing you that off to confession. I was clean. 10:36 Clean is clean. My confession say my penance 10:39 go Toews. Although the priest would say I absolve you. 10:44 I knew that by the time I got 5 doors down the street back to 10:46 my house. I would have sinned again as a little boy, 9, 10:51 10, 11 years old that remember exactly what that filled me 10:54 with dread midnight. The night came to the conclusion. If I 10:57 could only die right now and they'll go to him and you can. 11:01 And church was on the main road, the main highway through 11:05 the country. 11:06 And I remember standing out in front of the church watching 11:08 semis, drive-by thinking to myself. Well, a funny one of 11:12 them would run off the road because I'm young, I'm healthy. 11:14 I'm not likely to die. If one of them would just run off the 11:17 road 11:18 could die. And that would be all bad because I go to heaven. 11:21 I'm sure I wake up with my mother would go through and so 11:24 full. 11:25 I didn't think the brothers with mine too much 11:28 and I knew that wasn't going to happen. Truck is going to run 11:30 off the road at the what if I throw myself on the one, 11:33 she's pretty. That's that's a pretty doc thought for a little 11:35 boy. It is still I wasn't suicidal. Not mean that, 11:38 you know, you wanted to go to. I want to go to heaven. I 11:40 thought it funny. Well, I knew that couldn't be right. 11:43 So I didn't do that. So so I have questions, you know, 11:46 about my cell. They shun and about some of these things. 11:49 I was told 11:51 as an altar boy went to food, Lucia funerals 11:55 and in the church, the priest would say we can be happy 11:59 because Mister Smith 12:01 is in heaven right now in the presence of God and with this 12:05 departed wife or whoever it might be. 12:07 Well, 25 minutes later at the cemetery 12:10 and the same priest refers to the same and says, well, 12:13 now we lo Audi a brother into the hot tub. You way. He will 12:18 remain until the resurrection of the last day. 12:22 You know, I might have to being a kid, but I was shopping up to 12:25 know that no one can be in 2 places at once and the priest 12:28 to put out for in both in heaven and in the grave. 12:30 At the same time, I couldn't believe that I didn't like the 12:34 idea of people burning in h*** forever and ever. I've no idea 12:38 where they do not. But I didn't think that God would do that to 12:41 somebody. And we went to the priest and the priest would 12:45 forgive us our sins. Somebody is going to say, oh, he did it 12:48 in behalf of God, but he shared I absolve you. The church 12:53 teaches that he has that kind of power, at least to at least 12:56 we were taught that 12:58 we had good priest bill, no monkey business, the 13:01 shenanigans that we knew about. 13:03 He was one fellow, though, who would come to mass 13:08 seriously hung over because the night before he's propping up 13:11 the local by drinking whiskey 13:14 and I was with Greensill priest. If one did when he was 13:18 the right though to beacon fishing license to I didn't 13:20 think that was dropped. Nor did I think we should be praying to 13:23 Saints. 13:24 Why should a cop and to pray to Saint Joseph, the patron saint 13:27 of cop and his when he could just pray to God in the name of 13:30 Jesus who don't think in the stuff as a little boy, 8, 13:34 1911, years of age. Well, what do you do? You know, I'm a 13:37 Catholic. Where am I going to go? And I lived under my 13:40 father's roof and who as well. 13:43 What I knew was that we Catholics will going to heaven 13:46 and everybody else, the poor saps. They're all going to h*** 13:49 and not considered a great waste because some of them a 13:51 fine people, but 13:53 that we're going to h*** and I didn't want to be one of them. 13:56 As I got older, I became part of it 13:59 into denominational youth groups. We checked out the 14:02 Baptist churches and so on. 14:05 Then I got older. I hung around. The penny cost was a 14:07 bit. 14:08 This was when the charismatic renewal movement was going 14:11 through town throughout church in. So we would go to various 14:15 churches for they prayer and praise and the fellowship. 14:17 And that was a lovely. But I 14:19 and never found anything that scene was 14:22 right. 14:25 And I must say scene because it's not like I was weighing 14:28 things up carefully with the Bible. I didn't know how to. 14:33 I began to call myself a non-Catholic Catholic haha. 14:38 And then the time came when I did my overseas experience. 14:40 You know, New Zealand is way down here in the bottom of the 14:43 youth. We have been paying winds down to it. 14:46 I travel to London in England, which is what a lot of young 14:49 adults did in that time from New Zealand just to get out to 14:52 eat, drink and be merry to see the world and have fun. Yeah, 14:56 but I was still searching 14:58 frequently when I would leave my home and go to another city 15:01 far away or another country. Not that I did that very often. 15:05 Go to the church tonight. Hope that he I would find real 15:09 meaning in my faith, but it just seemed to be the same old 15:12 thing. 15:14 While I was living in London, I traveled to Ireland to the 15:17 land. My ancestry religious Ireland, I stated a pub on the 15:21 Saturday night and I asked the public an amended 80 Benson 15:25 anyway, should I go to mass tomorrow morning. So many 15:28 churches in Limerick, Ireland. He said there's one not fired. 15:31 Schooled Saints Savior's church. 15:34 I've been back since to just to visit you. 15:37 So I feel good. 15:38 My grandmother was born in the city. I don't know if she went 15:41 to the church will not. But she went one around here. 15:44 Shiulie here. I will find meaning in my faith and I ride 15:48 at the church to be on a Sunday morning to 25 people were 15:52 rattling around inside that church and there was an old 15:55 cold priest and it was an old Cold Church. An 15:59 I set the just like someone is shot goal of joy out of my 16:03 life. And I sat there and I said no 16:07 normal. This is not it. 16:10 And I left the church was walking back to the pub of 16:13 staying in 16:14 kicking stones along the street is I went and I looked up into 16:18 the the cost Irish sky. And I said out loud, 16:23 I said I'm never going back to church until you show me the 16:28 truth. And yeah, well, I didn't know that if you pray to pray 16:31 like that gun was actually on top. I am. I figured you would 16:35 hear, but I didn't know what happened next. I got back to 16:37 London 16:39 and waiting in the Mail. 16:43 Rewind 8 years. 16:46 My brother who had lived at church begun keeping the 16:49 Sabbath like a crazy person 16:51 and changes life will to get it gave me a book. He said this 16:54 book is called The Great Country to See You will love 16:56 it. It's about history and Prophesied explained in time of 16:59 engine trouble. You really like I said, Oh, thank you. 17:02 By the way, 17:04 even though my brother had left out should each 17:08 his life had improved. He was a decent guy. He was no longer 17:13 making poor decisions and bad mistakes had respect for and I 17:17 trusted him. Well, I didn't read the book, though, just for 17:19 no reason and have it. 17:21 4 years later. He said to me, did you ever read that book? 17:23 I said no. I ran to find it. I said I can't even find it. 17:28 Now 17:29 he said that, okay, he's a second company. Well, I moved 17:32 to London and I was searching. 17:34 I even wrote to my brother and said, what do you think? 17:37 I could find that book. I remember going down to Charing 17:40 Cross Road and going into used bookstore saying it's it's it's 17:43 it's a book. It's about a controversy that all of his 17:46 last name was White. No, sorry night. We don't have that book 17:50 here. 17:51 I wrote my brother. 17:53 I get back from Ireland. 17:54 What's waiting in the copy number 3 of this book, the 17:58 Great Country to see. So it wasn't working at the time. 18:01 Unfortunately, I was looking for work. 18:04 I would sit up late at night and set up late at night in the 18:07 Baath tub 18:09 reading. I think it was full now within, you know, maybe 18:12 about the reading my book, the going tough on the lining it. 18:17 I still have that same company that he gave me 18:20 and one night in the bottom. I bowed my head 18:23 and I said, OK, 18:25 okay, we're going to do this. And I accept Jesus as my Lord 18:29 and savior. And I want to follow the Bible, whatever that 18:32 means, whatever that means. The next day 18:36 I got on the phone, I called the upper right. 18:39 And I said I want if you be kind enough to give me the 18:41 phone number for the 7th Day Adventists cathedral. 18:44 He might. 18:46 I brought up my brother become a city they had and I knew that 18:50 as a kid as a kid, my brother said to me when I was a kid, 18:54 what date ego touch? What does the 7th 18:57 I said? Well, Sunday, of course. 18:59 And he said what? What day of the week is the 7 that was 7th 19:03 day. Everybody knows that. 19:04 He said his Sunday, the 7th day. Yes, 19:07 I ran to the calendar. My father brought home from 19:10 church, a Columbian Kellen de. 19:12 Get them every year. 19:14 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, What's this 19:18 Saturday? 19:19 I said Saturday. Why then do I go to church on Sunday? And he 19:24 should because your church changed the day and I said, 19:27 well, it might you change the day. That's good enough for me. 19:30 He should you really think it's good enough? 19:33 I knew it was and just a child. And I said 19:36 sure, it's good enough. But in Chile and go, you can change 19:39 the law of gone. I've never had a bible study, but who can 19:42 change the come on? That's much what you've done that. 19:45 So so I I thought thought if you're going to start 19:48 somewhere, you might just stop with the right day, right. 19:51 And I cold this church called the operating looking for a 19:54 Chinooks that KSAT Cathedral before the committee. Well, 19:57 same polls was downtown and Westminster Abbey was downtown 20:01 Longview. The Baptist said a big thing downtown. I see it 20:04 the 7 day. People will have a big thing downtown too well, 20:08 which which they didn't 20:12 anyway, it gets quite comical because that cold, that church 20:14 and at a Spanish speaker out just a phone 20:19 I've been following go around the world when to Ireland that 20:23 funny, quick Catholicism. I pray the prayer got the book. 20:26 I read the book out called The Upper to Call the Church and 20:29 someone on the phone. Is it boy, do they know what? What 20:35 did you know? It's Spanish was expecting some English 20:39 communicate on this man. Jamie, want to give my life to 20:43 it. 20:46 I tried to Lehman number. Of course, he has no way he 20:48 could understand the couldn't understand. 20:50 I got the phone. I said 20:52 I tried 20:55 will a couple of days later the phone rang out into the 20:58 hello is John Bradshaw with it? A delightful English accent. 21:02 How was I to know they had a Spanish-language congregation. 21:05 I was I to know that the and Pasha David Cox school, he 21:10 should all come to visit. You go. You will look 21:12 that would drive through all that traffic come door. I must 21:15 all come to you. He you know, you've got to go today, 21:18 but I said that was an optional. Come to you. And we 21:20 arranged to meet Wednesday night at prayer meeting. 21:23 They were heading revelations, Salmon War. Yeah, fabulous. 21:29 And so I expect that the whole place would be crowded. He told 21:32 me you go. You get off at Piccadilly Circus. Go up. 21:35 Regent Street, 2 blocks to hit in the street. The lift and 21:38 then you see a country life 21:40 health food restaurant. 21:41 Right before that. This is to catch up the state case. 21:46 Got to the state, the stairway to heaven. I feel here I and 21:50 this is great. 21:52 A look inside the goal. 21:54 No one in 5 ladies. 2 main men seem to be crazy. 21:59 >> Haha. 22:02 >> Chose those words carefully. Yesterday. Seems to be he we 22:06 would honor your mother told you they were. I think that 22:09 would. 22:10 And and I send it back at the church thinking what hath 22:14 what hath God ruled? You know what hath God wrought here. 22:17 And it's just 22:18 and I said, no, I went to a perfectly good church with a 22:20 lot of people. 22:22 And he ran 22:24 in central London and no one even comes to this place on a 22:26 Wednesday night. I should not done. 22:30 That's one of the victims seem right. 22:32 But if this is right, you know, you copy bummed out. By the way 22:36 the church looks with the people. You looking for truth 22:40 and you, Jean, yes, 22:43 give this time and now I'm it with the pastor asked him some 22:47 questions. The front door is Bible like wouldn't believe. 22:50 I've never seen anyone do that. 22:51 Come to church on 7th. Yes, I'll be there. I showed up in 22:54 church right along here. Much scruffy beat my earring in 22:57 my ear and I had holes in my jeans before. That was cool 23:02 high. 23:03 Not that one. 10 issues that was squashed. She's applied 23:06 squashing the shoes that will warning out 23:08 had old overcoat, a bolt from the upshot, the opportunity 23:11 shop to cancel and they love me like the prodigal son and 23:15 rigid. And I just love me. You know what's interesting to 23:19 bring this full circle? How did I know this at the time 23:23 that was at the new Gallery? 23:26 George Van Den, the founder of it is written, had preached 23:30 these lodge series of meetings in central London and sent to 23:33 the General conference new. You go to buy property in 23:36 central London and they did they both the new gallery. 23:39 George held meetings in the new gallery long before my time. 23:42 And I was baptized a bowlers. He is later. So that was, 23:46 but you I don't know whether that's full circle with her. 23:49 It means nothing at all. But 23:51 that's what happened. So I was baptized. 23:53 >> You like me? I won't go into my store right now. But like 23:58 me, you are a seeker. Yeah, I was. You wanted it to line up 24:03 with Bibles troop decided yet and was able to show you the 24:06 Bible and you accepted it a lot along the way. 24:11 >> The woman who is to go for my brother at the time and she 24:13 was quite an active Christian gave me a book about prophecy 24:15 that I was just and throw up. I was called the late great 24:18 planet. And I was so interesting that I got to the 24:21 end of it. I said, well, none of this makes a lick of sense. 24:23 But it's so interesting. And it just hit pithy on says 24:28 the stuff that I remember reading thinking. No, no, 24:30 that requires more than that. That was just 24:33 it was an initiated. And it seemed that that book gave gave 24:38 Pat on just the things that just didn't seem right to me. 24:41 I don't know why I just thank God. It didn't seem right to 24:43 me. 24:45 So I had being interested. I've been searching a being 24:47 seeking. I I said to the little so look, I would say to anybody 24:52 if if you if a prey that pre God will launch that pre out. 24:56 You said the Lord, I just want to follow the truth. 25:00 He'll give you all the truth you can handle because it's 25:03 right in the Bible. And in a minute 25:07 now you're bad ties team in the same church where George 25:12 Benjamin did his series that year. The president is not. 25:16 It is right now. The strangest tell us you just had an 25:19 anniversary for it is written. We chose that. 68 P a that's 25:23 just a couple is just early this week, 3 days ago at 68 25:27 made. Yes, we've been hanging around on the front lines of 25:29 ministry for some time. And, 25:31 you know, it's a privilege. And I I thank those who went 25:33 before me as it is written, those who who preserved the 25:37 ministry and retain the integrity of the ministry. 25:40 And and Kip, the ministry on the front lines of evangelism 25:44 mission enough and do it. We feel like that's out. 25:51 >> Sign a shoe at a North star. 25:54 And if we if we if we lose the focus on so winning evangelism, 25:57 then we don't really have a reason to exist. You man and 26:00 the latest us a lot of changes. Yeah, that's right. Lock and 26:04 show. You know, that's kind of direction that we're eventually 26:07 going to get into is just 26:09 from 68 years ago. 26:12 You know, people actually where they were you going to church 26:16 and that had a little flip or down at you and me alone. 26:19 It, 26:20 you know, big changes all. I mean, now, 26:23 how do we know? They're still have those? But anyways, 26:25 lots of changes. And now, you know, we're on the extreme. 26:28 And that's right. 26:30 >> But before we get to talking about the extremes tells all 26:34 that I will not all we don't have time, but tell us a little 26:37 about the current ministry of. 26:41 >> It is the only place we get to go to work every day and 26:44 then you you have the same experience because the ABA is 26:48 all about mission and evangelism. Yes, we get to go 26:50 to work every day and dream and create and work 26:53 and and do things. We pray by the meeting of God, by the 26:58 grace of God that will direct people to Christ and to the 27:01 Bible and to faith in Jesus and the preparation for the return 27:05 of Jesus. I mean, what would you rather do, right? And so 27:09 what started with one program in English, it's morphed into 27:13 several programs in Spanish and many more programs in English 27:16 that we record his original. We have our own channel. 27:18 It is written DOT TV online. We will continue to do missions 27:23 and evangelism with the team and elect 2 teams in Alaska 27:26 right now that doing medical missionary work in preparation 27:30 for an evangelistic series coming up 27:33 a few years ago was during COVID. We begin to 7 school 27:36 program where we speak to the author of the 7 School. Listen, 27:40 it is on 3ABN, some other places. Well, so 27:43 we just we're just having fun. I cannot tell you what my wife 27:45 is being up. Yes, please. Nation bloc says Kay's show you 27:50 this, though. This is a beauty. This is flight 3.16, and 27:55 everything is now starting to come back from the print right 27:58 now. It's a vacation Bible school. They've now got my 28:01 wife, Melissa leads my place with chases, which is our 28:04 children's ministry. 28:06 >> So the about the significance of flight 3.16, 28:09 for someone that might be tuning in. That's never seen a 28:12 religious program. We know what. 28:16 >> Matthew, 3.16 said. Yeah. The the the the image on 3 of 28:20 the name comes from, of course, John, 3.16, for God. So loved 28:23 the world that a gay, the vacation Bible School is a 28:26 program for kids and its community outreach. So you do 28:29 the Vbs a new church. Of course, you'll kids will be 28:32 blessed to invite neighborhood kids to be there in he the 28:35 kids, the children, the participants travel to 5 28:38 countries on 5 different continents. 28:41 By some odd coincidence, one of those countries is New Zealand. 28:45 My goodness me now that I think it just it up. But they go to 28:49 Asian African, South America and Europe in the sand and 28:52 Australasia and they learn about the coaches and the 28:55 people in the animals and maybe the foods and so forth. 28:59 They lose scriptures songs that they will never forget. They 29:03 play games and Croft and they memorize Bible verses and they 29:08 study the Bible with the little little kids or older kids. 29:12 They do Bible studies every night and they love it and the 29:16 church is love it. And I'm very grateful not just to Melissa 29:19 but 2 out team. This is this is nicely designed the full. 29:22 But what I wanted to say is that in that box, it contains 29:26 everything including the poster. So there's all those 29:29 manuals for the Bible study said the crafts, everything 29:33 infected comes really with the materials for 14 kids. So you 29:36 don't have to go and buy. If you're having a small vbs, 29:38 you don't have to tune in to buy the materials because it's 29:41 all in there for the first 14 children that come along. 29:43 So we thought about that. The menus are easy to follow. 29:46 This is plug and play. 29:48 And in fact, Melissa was was it some place? And she saw a lady 29:52 holding a vbs Manuel just holding out the issue. She 29:56 said, you know what, which is make the funk begun. So it's 29:59 easy to read now. So even the manuals are easy to read and 30:02 up. 30:03 We were careful to respect the sensibilities of people. 30:06 When it comes to music. Sometimes of BBs is the music 30:09 can get a little 30:11 energetic, nothing wrong with energy. And if that that's what 30:14 floats your boat. And I I'm not here to disparage you'll 30:16 persuasion, but we've made sure that no one to be offended by 30:19 this music. It's scriptures songs. Beautifully done. 30:22 Beautifully sung well range. So the music is you. You can 30:26 trust the music if if you have questions about music. 30:29 >> And I say from here, we're going to Brazil, we're going to 30:33 Africa. Botswana wanna show we're going to New Zealand? 30:36 Yeah, of course this place they went out and taking the kids to 30:39 Great Britain. That certainly is not a Texas drawl. I just 30:42 like the people should guess it probably lose a limb and 5th in 30:45 here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And the then there's London and I can't 30:50 hail the bottom. And China. The China on a wow. They're 30:54 doing the work over the world. Yes. So great fun. You know it. 30:57 >> Get those who run the vbs. Of course, it's just a limited 31:01 by the creativity when we did it out. Huge last year's 31:05 someone made this colossal animals from all over the 31:07 place. And and we have this handyman in the church as you 31:11 look up a bill that a chicken counties. So the kids coming 31:15 just like there in April and May are great fun. Yeah, 31:18 right? Yeah. So tell us what you doing in India. 31:22 Indy is terrific. We've had a humanitarian project going on 31:26 in India for some time. 31:28 And what we've what we've done in India, 31:32 this this goes back a few years now 31:34 is with partnering with an ophthalmologist inducted 31:37 shakeup, Rybak, a who has 31:41 I know the book gifted hands was about not been caution. 31:45 This man has gifted hands. You 31:47 in India, there are millions and millions and millions of 31:51 blind people 31:54 and for reasons many of which unknown and some which may be 31:58 in OT 31:59 this millions of people with cataracts, if they're not 32:03 treated, they'll lose the sight. The right becomes very 32:06 painful. Now, these on cataracts like grand my head 32:10 with vision, got a little cloudy and she went to a doctor 32:12 of food to the off the mala. Justin, this is not that these 32:16 cataracts that you can see from across the room. Well, usually 32:20 hype and that you cataracts where the lens of the eye is 32:23 about the color of the nicotine stay and 32:28 when dealing with poor people. So we're not doing this bangle 32:31 for the it people. This is being done in the villages in 32:36 the hinterlands. 32:38 People will travel literally for hours to get there because 32:41 they want to see a guy, you know 32:45 where we live. If you having vision problems, their social 32:48 services and support services and you get equipment in you 32:51 watch will talk to you in the computer will talk to you and 32:54 so forth. Not an Indian village. You 32:59 when I was there early this year, 33:02 we spoke to a man who was desperate. He said 33:06 what's the point of living? If you can see when we wouldn't 33:10 say that in the United States? I think 33:13 he should that they spoke about not wanting to be a burden. 33:16 I'm going to be good. 33:18 And if I can be blunt 33:21 in India in some situations, the blind and could you know to 33:25 me, yeah, well, there's a lot that the families got to do 33:28 everything for them. 33:30 I don't mean that with disrespect to your to what they 33:32 go through that you can't prepare the food you can look 33:36 at. You 33:37 do with the government's not sending you a check. Even using 33:41 the bathroom is rather more complex. In addition to wish 33:44 yes, even the clothing in the bathroom, people want the 33:48 dignity they will be able to see in one what a miracle for a 33:51 blind person to be able to come to a 33:54 a camp that will conduct a Hindu temple or a Sikh temple 33:58 or at the hospital, perhaps in Punjab state, wherever it might 34:03 be. 34:04 And free free, 34:06 they receive eye surgery. Doctor Jacob, does the cataract 34:08 surgery in less than 2 minutes. What you're likable without the 34:12 mod cons that you might find an American operating room. 34:16 We've never had an infection. Thank the Lord came out and 34:21 people say they see a game. They see again, that I think 34:24 about a couple pictures with Yale. I want to see the baby is 34:28 that it's amazing to this is everybody else in Memorial 34:31 Hospital. And there's a group of people they glosses on that 34:35 just had surgery. And we brought these folks in from a 34:39 village. I want to say a neighboring village, but it's 34:41 not. 34:43 It was actually an hour and a half to 2 hours drive because 34:47 of a deal with the Indian roads. 34:48 The man to my left, he's colorfully dressed. He's got 34:52 the orange stuff. 34:54 Now when we met him, he carries a big sword 34:58 and intimidating looking sold. This man is some kind of see 35:02 quarry, a Sikh warrior. 35:05 And so he's colorful 35:07 and up when 35:10 we would they when they took his bandages off and then they 35:13 examined his eyes. Oh, man, this was so moving. 35:16 He said, you know, I hope you don't mind. But but when I 35:19 experienced joy, I like to sing, 35:22 we show we don't mind at all. 35:24 And he broke out into this spontaneous impromptu song that 35:29 he composed as he went singing about how he is a Sikh man and 35:33 he has faith in God and how the Christian God has healed him 35:37 that we so grateful to have a site. All one of the most 35:40 moving things. You've been the scene, just beautiful. So we 35:44 arrived at a Hindu temple one time a previous visit. 35:47 And when we got there, 35:49 the Hindu priest looked actually see it. 35:51 Well, friends, the Christians here and now how wonderful. 35:55 And, you know, building relationships like that. 35:58 It made a powerful it is just to to to sue disinterested Lee, 36:03 which is not an interestingly disinterested Lee for the 36:06 blessing into benefit about this, she says, told has told 36:10 us 36:11 to help and and into the and 36:14 minister to people and ice for India. The way that we can do 36:18 that is only $75 and somebody can see that. That's the case. 36:22 It's not just the ophthalmologist, the hospital, 36:24 but this is a that the hard way. The intra ocular liens 36:28 many times that some that's that's picking someone up and 36:31 and and bring them several hours in a bus one direction 36:34 and back and accommodation and food and all of that. 36:37 Yeah, it's quite amazing. Yeah. So we just we do it 36:40 because, 36:41 well, I think Jesus would have us do it. And then it 36:45 gives the people to give scientists a bit. We're going 36:47 to say to a contribution that the wonderful and, you know, 36:51 I have to tell you, because 36:52 >> I have an autoimmune disease and it's affecting my eye and 36:56 that Cornell dystrophy missile of a sudden and its icy pond. 37:02 But a little blurry. 37:03 The thought of losing your fishing here is amazing. 37:08 And it's it's frightening. But the thought of someone 37:12 who's been years with these hyper to developed 37:17 cataracts, that's yeah. Such an a I read a full burden to then 37:23 to the families for $75. I think we all ought to just 37:28 the sponsor of 1, 0, yeah, I screwed India Discotheque. 37:32 >> I I w its readers read and all that long defined I W dot 37:36 com. It's just it's just a rock with me. If you if you know a 37:39 blind person, what what would you give? Yeah, glad to see. 37:44 You know, there's no there's a pride put. So this is just the 37:47 most fantastic thing to see those who can't see see him out 37:52 and end their head the and a grateful and they thank you and 37:56 that thanking God. And we want to thank God we want to thank 37:59 you. You'll go the Christian God because he has given us 38:02 this gift to see. 38:04 You know, India is a place where proselytizing is really 38:08 difficult, 38:09 but no place is a place where showing love to others. And 38:13 that's difficult. And that's what this is showing 38:17 showing love to others and helping those who can help of 38:22 its Wilson. Well. 38:23 >> Mark family was visiting recently for year anniversary. 38:27 Yeah, that's right. That picture, tell us pet picture 38:30 with yes, yes, yes. 38:32 >> I just happened to be recording 7 school programs on 38:35 the day, which was a 68 book day. And so there is on the set 38:39 with Eric Flicking. Just Erica is one of our revenge a list. 38:43 >> And mark, those who speak a Mark Finley is the author of 38:47 the 2nd Quarter and its head. 38:50 >> You fall into we're speaking about the great controversy. 38:54 Really? It's about the great controversy. 38:57 And if anybody can write about that authoritatively and 39:00 effectively its pasta Finley 39:02 and you to mock was the president of the district and 39:04 before my time. So, you know, kind of like my my my 39:07 I knew I shouldn't say that. But yeah, my grand, my 39:11 grandfather who is going to bat for me that you know so well, 39:15 Mike, Mike, 39:17 anyone like my grandfather, that's probably enough. But 39:21 anyway, these a special man, you know, he's he's well versed 39:25 in the system. 39:27 It's a wonderful one of the kind the yeah. Yeah. So you 39:30 know, he he was 39:31 one of those people who did such a great work, a great work 39:35 and it is written. It is written held meetings in the 39:37 Kremlin. You know, Inman was there, 39:39 Nick 95 96 in acts 2000 that happened while not Finley was 39:45 that it is written in. Yeah. What a lot of guys touch so 39:49 many lives and just keeps on doing it. I don't think 39:52 I don't think he knows how to slow down to thank God for him. 39:55 Yeah. Yeah. You know what? 39:57 >> Sometimes people ask ask when you can retire 40:00 retirements. Not even in our book. What would you do that? 40:03 We haven't talked about it because I knew so many people 40:06 it. I think that a universal needs to have a purpose. 40:11 And I know it's so many people who have retired and and life 40:17 just yeah, their life or seems to dwindle. Yeah. And so I 40:22 don't think retirements in the Bible and I know Mark doesn't 40:25 feel that way. As long as you've got Brett, 40:28 I feel he's out there. 40:29 >> That's not to share the gospel. Know there are people, 40:32 you know that the bank says you go to retire at 65 or the 40:35 factory says you're done. And that's great. So you you 40:39 retired from that. But don't retire from service to retire. 40:42 Hello. Don't resign from being on the front lines. You I tell 40:47 you what every church in the land is looking for. Someone 40:49 who will can say 40:51 what can I do to help and every community in the land is in 40:55 need of someone else who will stand up and say, I want to 40:57 take Jesus into this community somehow volunteer. You know 41:01 what it is written. We've got a gaggle of volunteers. We 41:04 couldn't function without them. And I'd like to think that day 41:07 volunteering is is a mounted for them to the have. No doubt. 41:11 It is just so. 41:12 >> What a blessing. So tell us real quickly, because we've 41:15 just got a few more minutes. And this hour we're going to 41:18 get into our topic tonight. Is 41:21 balance finding God's path in a world of extremes. 41:27 But tell us what direction what's the future immediately 41:31 for it is written. 41:32 >> It's interesting thing is it because we're not going to stop 41:35 doing what we do. 41:36 We're always looking for better and more effective ways of 41:40 doing it. How can we be more effective on social media? 41:43 What new program can we could we should we create? We should 41:47 we be doing evangelism? We do a lot of training. We have salt 41:53 is our evangelism training school for 4 and a half months 41:56 long. Will we do some assault which is a shorter summer 42:00 program. We do road so we take sold on the road to churches 42:03 here in the 42:05 and energize churches so that the church becomes an 42:07 evangelist and center not just and and abroad. I mean, to be 42:11 disrespectful, but not just come during the ground. 42:16 You know what I believe. In fact, this is what I know. 42:19 God's people would share the faith every last 42:23 most of God's people. She they think if someone showed him how 42:26 and I believe someone gave him an opportunity and show them 42:29 how easy it can be cent took the intimidation factor out of 42:33 this. I recall Erika going to a church in North Carolina, 42:36 trained to me said we're going to go out in the community for 42:38 30 minutes. 42:39 What are you going to do? Well, in this case and of 42:41 course, you don't always have to do this. He said we're going 42:43 to knock on doors, have moves. He suddenly people had 42:46 appendicitis and we're a cut in the bad back at you the whole 42:50 thing. But he wasn't taking no for not that they came back up 42:54 to 30 minutes with 32 Bible study which came out to t to 43:00 the people said we want to study the Bible with you. 43:04 Well, the young people came back and enjoy. The older 43:06 people have never seen anything like this. 43:08 You see this interesting. There are people there, if you 43:11 would, how to go about finding him now. And there's lots of 43:14 different methods, of course. 43:15 So we want to continue to keep of strong emphasis on training. 43:21 We intend to develop the channel a little bit more. 43:23 And the idea 43:27 is to reach more people 43:30 in more effective ways than we've ever done before. You 43:34 know, we're going to continue to be a media evangelism 43:38 ministry. What is your series of the reformation horror? 43:41 You did all of that. It's OK if you look at the 500. 43:44 >> 500 that we love that dad is such an amazing series. And if 43:49 you haven't watched it 500, yeah, it was all filmed on 43:54 location. Record is on location and it's the type of thing that 43:58 will reach beyond if you've got friends family that may be 44:04 saying. So I'm not sure if I'm interested in religion. This is 44:09 world history and it rings and it's how 44:14 how interwoven the underpinning of all of this, of course, 44:18 is the gospel. But as you have a you have a special gift and 44:22 teaching. 44:23 >> This kind of like you actually, as you're walking 44:25 down the street, you can actually see you kicking the 44:27 can. You know, you're you come across, you know, this is who 44:32 you are. Well, you know, if it did really is is a blessing. 44:36 Well, you know, we love it. 44:38 >> And I love history and I love out history. It tells you 44:43 out loud that the Bible can be trusted. We just feel formal 44:47 program. Similar men of faith, 44:50 George Mula like John Bunyan Men, too about Joe Newton. 44:55 We've go to do one, but we've got before we left a disguise. 44:59 Got too much going on. We need to do too 45:01 so into Bristol. When you lose orphanages, would we want a 45:04 bigfoot with Bunion wrote the Pilgrim's Progress we went to 45:07 only with Newton was a posture where we've been down to 45:11 wapping in London where he lived as a young fella. And 45:16 that's when he went to sea and eventually became a slave, 45:20 the 45:21 the captain of a slave ship. 45:23 And then you begin that pollution is done before he 45:24 died. Britain abolished slavery. 45:28 You know, when he wrote Amazing Grace. How was he wrote that 45:30 song? Amazing Grace. How Sweet the Sound that saved a wretch 45:33 like me. 45:35 He was not exaggerating. Yeah. That brother was a rich. 45:40 Look, we're going in this life mount. Yeah, down. In fact, 45:43 we're going to store and we want to get to a noun a wee 45:46 little video and this is this is kind of why we do what we 45:49 do. 45:51 The gentleman day in the you can tell me if you want to wait 45:54 on this, let's do that. Dave, Mitt Shana, they had a through 46:00 horses and horse feed and hay and so forth. They met 46:03 and she said, what do I do know? And I want to share with 46:05 the sky. She gone. It is written programs about the 46:09 reformation had gotten loose. That shouldn't with day. 46:12 He said, wow, this is the real thing and ultimately his life 46:18 was changed to. Well, it's well that video now because it is 46:22 incredible. 46:26 >> My friendship with China began probably 20 plus years 46:29 ago. I don't recall the exact date here on the farm. We have 46:33 beef cattle. We've always been self-sufficient in the sense 46:36 that we grow our own hay for cattle. And Shawna 46:40 made her way here and asked if we had a tough sell. 46:43 >> I needed hey for my horses. And I was told this was that 46:47 good farm to go for hay. 46:49 >> Loan a one day she had got into talking about 46:53 the church and I started to ask questions. 46:56 >> When COVID happened, everything just changed. 47:00 Everybody's lives changed. And there's so much fear. 47:04 And there was so much worry and we actually just really start 47:07 talking about what was going to happen, what we thought at the 47:09 end of time. 47:10 >> And she started to talk about the book of Daniel 47:15 Revelation. We talked a little bit about that. My 47:17 understanding of what I what I knew. 47:19 >> And I just remember saying a little prayer. What can I give 47:22 Dave to share with him? Because I knew he was a Lucerne and 47:25 have been he's a dollars and that it was like and I have 47:29 been watching the 500 series. 47:31 >> Rees and then shot introduce me to 500 series with John 47:34 Bradshaw. And and as I've been watching that been seeking out 47:39 more and more bizarre to want to learn more about Christ and 47:42 want to read the Bible are frequent basis to the point 47:45 where I want to get in his word every day. 47:47 >> And after a shared the 500 series with him, I found out 47:51 that he had actually Google John Bradshaw new 2 and was 47:54 watching other ones. And so he had been watching other John 47:58 Bradshaw. Anything he could find you, too. And so it was 48:03 really cool because now seeing him once a week and and just 48:07 seeing this, this fire and that got started in his heart and 48:09 his and how he was just like hungry for more and just trying 48:15 to find new things to share with him is just 48:18 >> a feeling. It's unbelievable what comes across. You know, 48:22 I I shed tears at times. It was that 48:26 emotional for me at times. Just learning more and more 48:29 about what Christ did for me as my savior. 48:32 >> And he just say, I can't thank you. I can't thank you 48:34 enough for you for sharing this with me. And he's like you've 48:38 given me the truth. And he's like I want to get baptized. 48:41 >> Well, more and more convicted to, you know, be 48:45 baptized iPhone. Certainly do that. And John Bradshaw 48:49 inspired me to do that through through scripture reading. 48:52 >> I told Dave when you comment charge a probably got cry. 48:55 My eyes when I see you walk in the church for the first time 48:59 and he came in on January 8 to be baptized. And to be part of 49:05 that, it was it was just amazing. 49:09 >> I had this thought that in order for you to be baptized, 49:13 you needed to be completely righteous and pure. And I 49:16 learned that the holes for one or more and help create a new 49:19 person 49:21 as we commit ourselves and surrender ourselves to Christ. 49:25 >> It's been amazing to see this from the beginning of Dave 49:29 Story. And then just to see Dave to go from the sky, 49:33 rough around the edges of my friends. But to see somebody 49:36 now has just filled with joy and peace and to know that we 49:40 have all these great resources. All we have to do is to share 49:44 with somebody just something. There's something for everybody 49:47 and how it started with the 500 series and for somebody who now 49:54 he goes out of his way to share Jesus with others and just to 49:57 see the peace and joy and to be part of that is amazing. 50:01 >> I have peace without all understanding of comfort in my 50:07 in my heart. I know that he is with me and he will protect me 50:11 from whatever 50:12 trials and tribulations that come my way. 50:14 [MUSIC] 50:19 [MUSIC] 50:22 >> Or it doesn't get any better than to know. 50:25 But he is with me. And that's something boy, what a win. 50:28 >> And that's why we do what we do. That's why it is written 50:30 began all those years ago will defend him in said what an 50:34 evangelist. But if I if I if I use TV and get a whole lot more 50:37 people to come, that money does. And you know what? 50:40 We I don't know quite what to put a down 2. But in the last 50:43 couple of years, more and more people are coming to our 50:47 evangelist meetings and saying, I've been watching on TV and 50:50 now I've been watching the program's more and more so than 50:53 what God has done. 50:54 But it's special. And and you know that that's why you do 50:58 what you do for them. So those stories to see people come to 51:02 faith in Christ, which tells me to one, went to buy hay for 51:05 horse. 51:07 She can go to witness because Jesus lived in a hot. She's 51:11 always open to those opportunities to share and she 51:14 prayed about it. How do I reach this guy? What you did Ole? 51:18 He's a Lutheran. He may have some interest in the stuff 51:21 about Lutheran Reformation. So that's what you do. You get 51:25 you pray. What can I reach this person somehow? Okay. Lets show 51:29 me how because not everybody is reached the same way 51:32 and low to tell you to give it to track this person. An 51:36 invitation to that person, a Bible study, video, whatever 51:39 the case might be made. So they're waiting to be reached. 51:43 >> So you can see the series on 3 a B in or if you want, 51:48 you can go to. I gave the address wrong while ago. 51:51 The I W Dot Org is for 51:55 ministry email info at I I W Dot Org but the website if you 52:03 want to go and watch him at their website is it is rich not 52:08 dot TV to any any simpler than that. It is written dot TV. 52:14 Yeah, a little is good as any. I mean. 52:16 >> To give us an edge to keep us busy and ministry is not 52:20 because he didn't pick me from among the good Angels tuna, 52:25 but you have an opportunity to to to stand in front of one 52:28 person 52:29 our 1000 persons and say there is a God loves you. Jesus died 52:33 to be sins and you have a future in a place in the heart 52:35 of God. And though it's been, you know what, the port 52:40 2 could go back. 52:42 >> It doesn't take brain surgery because the one thing 52:44 that I certainly have learned, he's got eyes to hear been 52:47 God's got eyes to here. And here's to hear. And he knows 52:51 where you are and what time that you're so 52:54 I guess super not was a great word. Yeah, supernatural. 52:57 He's going to us issue and putting the props and place 53:02 so that it just comes. It just comes out of you. 53:06 >> Yes, you want a lot of people don't realize is that 53:08 God doesn't ask us to plant has seen in ground that has nothing 53:12 to do that. Yeah. And he's at work and and is preparing 53:17 people that they're different stages on the continuum. 53:19 But he's preparing people so that when you come along, 53:23 you don't have to convert them. 53:25 The spirit of God moved people. But if you can, should the 53:29 would all hand the book goal point? 53:31 >> In this shouldn't direction or encouraging some way. 53:34 What you're doing is building on the foundation out that 53:38 Jesus has already put down his as long as you're doing this in 53:42 a loving it way. And Jan told you don't try to go in. And 53:47 just we had a neighbor who could he said I can't believe 53:51 their 7th day Adventists because his only experience was 53:54 an Adventist with someone had walked into his business in 53:58 said. 53:59 >> You're going straight, you know where? Because you go to 54:02 church Aho. Yeah, so. 54:05 >> You know, that kind of leads. And that comment is set 54:08 in place. We only have a couple minutes in this hour, but we've 54:12 been teasing this. I'm telling you what we're going to do. 54:16 Why did you choose the topic for tonight? Balance finding 54:22 God's path in the world of extremes. Why do people want to 54:26 stay tuned in for the second tower, OK? 54:29 >> So, yes, my question to have to eat you honestly. Yeah, 54:32 I guess I didn't have to, 54:34 but but I would choose to. But what why did I choose the 54:37 subject? 54:38 Because I see so little of it. 54:42 And I see such a lack of balance. It's really easy for 54:47 people to get out on the extremes. 54:49 No, I'm not saying, oh, don't go to file a don't go too far 54:54 with Jesus. You can't go far enough. And we're going to talk 54:56 about that. He asks us to be. 54:58 >> All in all in. 55:02 >> But there are so many places that we can become extremely 55:04 can become extreme in our diet. We can become extreme in out 55:10 will ship. We can become extreme in out politics. 55:13 We can become extreme when I say we can people do in the way 55:17 we criticize, we can become extreme and I disagree in the 55:22 way we choose to agree or disagree. 55:26 Why did COVID in so many churches 55:29 tune into a dumpster fire? It's because I didn't have the 55:33 ability to say to you, I respect your position and you 55:37 have the ability to say to me, I respect your position. 55:40 We dug our heels in and wanted to be the only right one. 55:45 Alternately doesn't matter who's right? What matters most. 55:48 You do what you want to do. We respect respect that. 55:51 But you got to be right 55:53 being right. Speaks a lot more loudly. And clearly, I mean, 55:57 what a second I'm saying what I mean to say, but I'm 56:00 contradicting myself being of the right spirit. Amen being 56:05 right with God being the right kind of person. That's what 56:09 speaks to people that a quick story. I know we have a little 56:12 bit time, but the short story just in England recently with 56:16 some friends in Wolverhampton, just a great place, great 56:18 people. 56:20 They told me a story. 56:21 The students in the Bible school that had running at the 56:24 time were meeting people in the community, the middleman and 56:27 salmon and saying that nothing much to do with the Bible and 56:31 didn't want to. But he like these young people and they got 56:34 to know him and show you study the Bible, but 56:36 is grass was along, 56:39 looked like it never got county. They should. We cut 56:41 your grass. And 56:43 the task was kind of rescue me somewhat done. And if we help 56:46 you around the house looks like you need. Absolutely no. 56:49 Later his son said, dad, what you have nothing to do with 56:52 these people 56:53 and sand said, listen, son 56:56 in 41 years, you've never cut my grass 56:58 and 41 years. You've never help me around the house. These 57:01 people have demonstrated what they really like and then I 57:05 will continue to mix with them and I'll follow God alongside 57:08 and see what spoke with people 57:11 being of the right spirit, not the right to you that you got 57:15 to win high. 57:16 >> You know the name. And so we want to thank you for this 57:20 first hours from listening to thank your story and exciting 57:25 to hear what it is written a stirring. But we want to 57:28 encourage you. Stay tuned. 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