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00:10 >> Welcome back. I'm Sheli Quinlan, JD quell and we are so
00:14 glad if you missed the first, are you missing a family man?
00:17 But we are about to get into a very interesting topic. It is
00:25 balance finding God's path in a world of extremes. And our
00:32 special guest tonight is John Bradshaw. President of it is
00:37 scripted.
00:39 John, we always enjoy having you here was enjoyed being.
00:42 It's great fun. Great fun to see you. And we talked about
00:45 great stuff. So
00:46 this is good. Yes, thanks for having me. Yes.
00:49 >> And this is a topic that only extremes that I think that
00:52 most of us, Kim,
00:54 you can feel that something is going on.
00:56 >> I mean, times are changing. The world is becoming more
00:59 extreme and you show used to it polarizing. We we're being
01:06 pushed to the extremes. The media is pushing us to run.
01:09 I think there are some pretty benign but but meaningful
01:15 reasons for that. We'll talk about some of that. Why things
01:17 are getting so extreme.
01:20 We're getting to the place now, 6,000 years after creation that
01:24 people are saying
01:25 I'll do whatever I want, then they'd that conformity is no
01:31 longer in the lexicon. And, you know, you do you and you do
01:36 your truth and speak your truth.
01:39 People rushing to the extremes for varying reasons.
01:44 And we see that in the church is will politically socially
01:47 within the church. Theologically, it's way too
01:50 easy for people to become extreme in some areas with a
01:53 really low to moderate just a little bit and find not what I
01:56 would cold the middle ground but find Christ ground. That's
02:01 what we want to find.
02:02 >> And then and then so when we look at this polarization,
02:07 as you said earlier,
02:10 it is getting to the point that it's very difficult if you have
02:16 an opinion that is different than someone else's. It's very
02:20 difficult to have the civil
02:22 conversation even in the church I found I don't talk politics.
02:27 I'm a citizen of the kingdom. Haha and I just I don't talk
02:32 politics because if you express innocent late
02:37 and amazement at something that you've seen on television,
02:40 people can get
02:41 really bent out of shape. Very hostile. Yeah, very much
02:45 so. I need I don't understand when you see what people are
02:49 putting on their Facebook page and Christians who are posting
02:54 things, that
02:56 they're just tearing other people apart because of their
02:59 opinions. What do you think is stirring all of this extreme is
03:06 some. There are a couple of things.
03:08 One thing I think is happening, I believe I know it's
03:11 happening.
03:13 >> Is it slowly? But surely the spirit of God is being
03:14 withdrawn from the lovely, but surely. So there's that
03:18 at the same time when I sit some of the reasons about the
03:21 media, a fairly benign, he is what I mean.
03:24 We have a 24 hour news cycle now. How much news is they
03:28 really? You can get most of it out and about 38 to 40 minutes
03:34 after that.
03:35 You just got to keep going back and keep going back and keep
03:38 going back. And so to the news channels, too.
03:41 They tell you the news
03:43 and then they coming to on the news
03:46 and then they come in on the commentators.
03:49 And because what news channels have done is that they're not
03:52 interested in telling you all of the news. They want to tell
03:55 you they version of the news.
03:57 So what they've done is they've carved out a ground and they
04:00 become financially beholden to that ground.
04:04 According to news channel you want and I'm sitting up going
04:06 into the politics of it.
04:07 But they've staked out a certain amount of ground and
04:10 they know that they can get. Some of the view is
04:14 CNN is never going to get 80% of the viewing audience.
04:17 FOX News is never going to get 75% of the audience. They don't
04:21 need it.
04:22 They just need that slice of the viewing audience. They'd
04:25 like to grow it. But they know that they're never going to
04:27 have true dominance that need it, though. If they just get
04:30 these views,
04:32 then they know that they're going to be economically
04:35 profitable, financially profitable. So they tell you
04:39 what a certain demographic wants to know,
04:42 happens to be what they want to tell. So you end up in an echo
04:46 chamber where
04:48 me if you're watching Bradshaw News, I'm telling you what I
04:52 think OSHA telling you that everybody else is not only
04:55 wrong but that dangerous. They want to end democracy.
04:59 It's really interesting how one side says Donald Trump is going
05:02 to end a democracy. And the other side says Joe Biden is
05:05 going into democracy. And right now there are people listening
05:08 to be going the both say he's right about Biden or Trump,
05:12 you know, because it's what a funny old thing.
05:15 But I do icon just share the news. Now. I've got to go to
05:18 the extreme and say the people who tell you something
05:20 different to me, they're going to cause the ruination of the
05:23 world. That may be true in some cases. So now has a view little
05:28 one day. All from that. Keep us in on what it what it is.
05:31 Your thanks so much. So, Matt,
05:34 as I read that later, I realized what was feeling that
05:37 individual, this cable news,
05:39 he was just mentioning all the points that he was just so you
05:42 sit at home and watch cable news all day long.
05:47 You're going to get you going to be coming stream. I don't
05:50 mean annex dream missed. I mean, you're going to you're
05:53 going to be pushed just to one side, one much of the other.
05:57 So that's one reason. That's what we're getting food from
06:00 the media. The media don't try to tell you all the news they
06:04 do try and show you their version of the news that will
06:07 advance their political agenda. We are feeding on that. So we
06:11 become like that. But holding become changed.
06:15 >> And I just was getting ready to say that. Also, you look at
06:19 the internet and most of the media we go. And it is so
06:24 amazing to me that people sometimes to approach me and
06:27 they'll tell me a story and I'll say what is your source?
06:31 JD told me something the other day. And I thought, well,
06:34 that doesn't have support us the source because it got said
06:37 into his phone. Yes, some people believe that anything
06:41 they read on the Internet. It's true. That's right.
06:45 And we've got
06:47 foreign governments for crying out loud, but in 2 feet as
06:51 yeah, some things that are far from tray.
06:55 >> Yes, to talk about cable news minute ago, the Internet.
06:58 So it used to be that if that if you were at a bar with your
07:02 buddies, I don't mean to you, but fellows at the bottom with
07:06 his buddies and he had some
07:09 hair brained opinion.
07:10 It stayed right there in the BAA 3 people knew about it.
07:14 No one can know that guy gets online and tweet and
07:16 potentially millions of people years, cockamamie ideas
07:19 and then you get people who develop a following.
07:23 What the Internet does it on your YouTube fee to what it
07:27 feed you, the stuff you like.
07:29 So if you've got an itch that needs scratching a, you've
07:33 gotten a Jane Doe one and that you just feeding on that,
07:37 it becomes very unhelpful.
07:39 >> Showing people don't realize that there are algorithms.
07:42 She knew the social media companies. If they see you've
07:46 got an interest in a certain type of the news or certain
07:50 topics, they have an algorithm and now they start feeding you
07:54 all of that thing in there, which which on one level it's
07:58 kind of good.
07:59 >> But on every other level is very unhealthy because you get
08:03 stuck again in a coach, the and on the Internet. You can rush
08:06 to the extremes because the is every crazy and known crazy
08:10 group of people have a following. The if you want to
08:13 push you the most unhealthy stuff in the world, whether
08:16 it's physical emotional, what did you find it online and
08:19 there's nothing to stop it down because we believe in freedom
08:21 of speech, even if the speech is unhealthy. And so extremism
08:26 is born and I don't just mean religious fundamental extremism
08:30 of what a kind but extreme ideas. Extreme views, extreme
08:34 reactions.
08:35 Jesus didn't call us to be extreme in anything but a now
08:38 faith in God and any did call us to be extreme in a
08:42 commitment to God. I I don't want anyone to think that I'm
08:45 saying
08:46 just take the middle of the road, but I would say is that
08:50 Romans 12 says I beseech you the full brother and by the
08:53 most seasoned dog.
08:55 Listen to this. That you present your bodies, a living
09:00 sacrifice. Now, that's an oxymoron. Of course, polls
09:03 pending a lewd picture or using a device, a literary device,
09:08 but a living sacrifice. The book offering was slaughtered,
09:12 placed on the old to and completely consumed. Poor sees
09:16 debts how you want to be living but fully can shoe by the
09:21 spirit of God and given completely to the Christ of the
09:24 Bible and the Gospel. That's extreme that a good extreme
09:29 that saying you all in for Jesus, you've you've
09:31 surrendered your life to, you know, here's why.
09:34 >> Have that. If
09:37 people will say that truth is relevant, you've got your
09:40 truth. That got my. I think that part of our problem today,
09:45 please hear what I'm saying. We need to put the phones down.
09:49 We need to get kids off Twitter and you can get the people have
09:53 developed and attention span.
09:56 That is like a hummingbird. They sip from this four-minute.
10:01 They sip from that and they just split from flower to
10:03 flower and topic to topic.
10:05 Truth is not relevant or there would be no truth. But no one
10:09 is going to know truth without reading this. Right. And here's
10:13 what I'm saying. Correct me. If if you think I'm off,
10:19 I don't believe that death cares which side of the ditch
10:23 to fall out. You know, if it's in this ditch or that cage,
10:28 you say people
10:31 in the church who are listening to maybe somebody that on
10:37 how can say this and extend extra arson shows on the
10:42 Internet or something. And all of a sudden they become very
10:46 legalistic. They become very and they're falling out over
10:49 here yet. You see other people
10:52 who all say, oh, I've saved by grace through faith. I want to
10:56 say, do we say we see it even in our own church, every church
11:00 as the ship? That's correct. And they're following up on
11:03 this side.
11:04 How do we gain true how you can find God's path that it's a
11:09 question at such an important question.
11:12 >> Extreme legalism and extreme liberalism. I'm very closely
11:16 related.
11:18 >> They add let me let me quickly say this because I
11:20 mentioned the term liberalism. What on a program in Somebodys
11:25 said my wife turned you off because she thought we're not
11:27 talking liberalism in politics. Well, talking liberalism has Im
11:34 thinking
11:35 you don't need to even worry about following God's will,
11:39 OK, we thanks, bedding that because someone might get the
11:43 wrong end of the stick,
11:44 they are simply different sides of the same coin, a man because
11:49 the legal us says.
11:50 >> I got to do all this in order to be saved. And then
11:55 once he or she checks it off, I would say the person on the
11:58 other, the Nikkei list, a lackadaisical person says I
12:02 just got to choose Jesus and I'm saved
12:06 nothing wrong with that on the face of it. But both people I
12:09 saved by something they've done. Yeah, not saved by grace
12:14 through faith in Christ who will live his life in. Dan,
12:18 I just got to I accepted Jesus when I was a living. All is
12:22 good or on. The members should show. That's good. That's that.
12:26 Kayla says nothing conscientious about that.
12:29 But over here, you know, I won on committee and so I probably
12:32 lost my salvation. That's that's another extreme piling
12:37 up. The do's and the deeds. We've got to show them that and
12:41 the gospel is the antidote to that.
12:46 We're going to get into some of his lifestyle. So I want to
12:48 talk about Nashville being destroyed by 5 goals in a
12:51 moment in a moment, just catch somebody's attention
12:57 in relationship to 14 of those 12
13:00 we read. Here is the patience of the Saints. The say he
13:03 robbed a now 2 things that keep the commandments of God
13:07 and the faith of Jesus. If you love me, you'll keep my come
13:12 on. That's Jesus. Wasn't saying if you love me, you'll prove
13:14 that he was saying if you love me, then look at this. You're
13:18 going to be keeping my key moments because love this.
13:21 The fulfilling of the role that extremism. When you get people
13:25 who like Whoah Whoah K less about the fight
13:29 standards don't matter. That's extreme. Isn't you've gone all
13:33 the way over to the left in your faith in God, you think
13:36 that showing up in church once in a while a sufficient you're
13:39 not having a living vital moment by moment relationship
13:43 with Jesus Christ. That's just that's an extreme position over
13:48 here where you can find enough things to do to be good enough
13:51 to go to that extreme as well in the middle is probably
13:57 Romans 6.
13:58 How how shall we continue in since the grace mad about God
14:04 forbid pull, right? How shall we? That did Tucson. Yes,
14:07 live any longer there. He that is dead is for. She is freed
14:12 from sun. So the direction we want to goes is to calvary
14:17 with through faith in Jesus. We die to sin and we died
14:19 itself. Jesus lives in lives now so is rum and 6 of U.S.
14:23 forces. We walk in newness of life. That's what you want.
14:28 You can be the you can sing the loudest in the choir and same
14:31 as much as you want. But if you haven't died to self, you know,
14:35 his real Christian, you can be the he you can be the biggest,
14:38 the gun and the whatever it wanted to. But if you haven't
14:41 died to self, you're you're a pharisee. Get your your your
14:45 under the Old Covenant of Works and not the new coming to
14:48 grace.
14:50 >> And the and the
14:52 I had a thought that just escape me happens to me.
14:55 Show you get given the great in the region encourage meant one
15:00 thing I know what was going to say is that people often say be
15:05 dance is legal. It's it's crazy. Isn't
15:08 OPD and is slap. Not let let me read since we're in Rome in 6,
15:12 1, to say this, right. And in 6.16, Paul says, do you not
15:18 know that too? Well, new prison secure south slaves to obey.
15:24 You are at that one. Slate whom you OK? We're all slaves to
15:29 something like this. Whether of San, if you're a slate of sand
15:34 leading to death or of the PD and its leading to
15:41 righteousness, well, it's righteousness is by face.
15:45 How can he says obedience obedience doesn't say this.
15:48 Only God can save us were saved by grace through faith.
15:53 If we are I adopted to become a child of God.
15:58 We love him because he first loved us. And you know what?
16:02 In first, John, he tells us that want anyone
16:08 who is righteous will practice righteousness.
16:12 >> So God works in is to willing to do. And we practice
16:16 right to show you what if people realize it or not,
16:18 this is what they want. They want this in Roman 6 synge
16:22 shall not have dominion of the same in one of blessing.
16:27 So I didn't have to be that that Kayla schedule, Christian
16:30 Obi who says well might be living like the devil. But I
16:33 did choose Jesus or Rick. And that's OK and you don't
16:36 have to be that of pushing out here who can't sleep at night
16:39 because the wondering with this something they did that
16:41 offended dog
16:43 in the middle in the middle. You decide whether it's in the
16:46 middle or not.
16:48 But when you come to Christ and he lives his life anew,
16:52 thank God send. Doesn't have to mean you know you anymore.
16:55 This person of the year on the one extreme isn't wallowing in
16:57 the mud of sun. This person of the year has got nothing to
17:00 prove they are with G says the spirit of God has brought life
17:04 into the lives and now they are in the woods of the of the
17:08 Bible, right? Free from sun. And that's where you want to
17:11 be. Not not an extreme, not extremely
17:14 lackadaisical about your faith. There are no standards doesn't
17:18 matter what I eat with drink. When I worship how they
17:22 worship,
17:23 you don't be like to push another. He I've every single
17:26 thing is life and death. And because I put it, I stepped
17:29 on a crack. I'm somehow not righteous anymore. No, no.
17:34 The true ground avoid those extremes. Christ wants you to
17:38 have. He's being justified by faith. We have peace with God
17:42 through Jesus Christ. What we've got to live in that piece
17:45 and a must to not do so. You are out on the extremes and
17:49 in a world that's filled with crisis, you got to be with
17:52 Jesus is and have a hot field with the piece of crushed and
17:56 you may
17:59 well, well, we sit here and will will nod and a man.
18:03 What we both know is that someone's watching say
18:07 my eye can have peace. After all. I've done the on through
18:11 the answer is yes. After all, you've done. But I've been back
18:14 to you. Yes, you being bad and God knows you being bad because
18:19 you bag. We're all sinners. The Bible says,
18:22 but you can have peace. Now. You've got some habitats,
18:26 destroying some addiction of some lifestyle issue. Whatever
18:29 it is, you got a weakness. Listen, Jesus is you come to
18:33 me. I will give you rest is hope at the foot of the cross
18:37 for you. And
18:39 I think that's good news. If you don't understand that
18:42 just asked the Lord could like, yes, yes, yes, yes, let loose.
18:47 Some people say, yes, that's what I want. But how do I get
18:50 it like I did when I was the 22 year old wandering around
18:54 Limerick, Ireland, I'm not going to church again until you
18:57 show me the man. You pray to God. I don't understand this.
19:01 You shot me. He's gone. Maybe wants to show you that his
19:05 business, you'd be happy to do it.
19:06 >> JD has the news from more than one occasion where someone
19:10 has COVID to the pastoral department and they want to
19:13 argue there is no god or something JD would just say,
19:17 well,
19:19 I just want to encourage to do this some night when you're not
19:21 sleeping,
19:23 just ask the Lord, if you're there, proved to be a.
19:26 >> And hopefully it will. He wore. You're all of a
19:28 sudden, you know, you you're probably paying attention to
19:31 how restless shoe or
19:32 and then all of a sudden, you know that little drop us.
19:37 I remember he said, Ask show Me, Lord, show me
19:42 and boy, the Holy Spirit. I mean,
19:45 I understand the way that my mind works. If it takes 10,000
19:49 major giant angels to come down at that particular moment,
19:53 they will. They sure will, you know whatever it takes. Yeah.
19:56 And but you've got to just say, helping to suss what I don't
20:01 know the go. I mean.
20:03 >> Mention Nashville. Can a candidate can get a shock
20:06 because here we are with with these are extreme ideas and
20:09 this is where I think the Internet
20:12 helps people become.
20:15 I'm balanced
20:18 now an inch to them. You know,
20:22 when I want was a church pastas greatest job in the history of
20:27 great jobs, not even a job. Just wonderful experience.
20:31 Fantastic congregations. I I I was I think the little
20:36 knew I couldn't deal with the hog. It congregation gave me
20:39 the 2 best congregations in history, a man o well as a
20:43 church bus. I would say when I when I get there early,
20:46 really in my ministry, if you hear me say something that you
20:49 need to hood before, it's probably a sign that there's
20:51 something wrong.
20:53 I there with you all with me because as a gospel minustah
20:57 shouldn't be telling you a whole bunch of stuff you never
20:58 heard before. Unless, of course you knew.
21:01 I wish you knew to the fact that you you, you, you growing
21:03 Ali,
21:05 my role on this lease to tell you the old old story, tell you
21:07 stuff your eating up now go to somehow bring out of my tool
21:11 kit ways of sharing it with you. That makes it relevant and
21:15 applicable and so on.
21:18 So so what I find interesting is that, you know, while ago,
21:21 some people seized on on something that being written
21:24 100 or so years ago
21:25 saying that an ash was going to be destroyed by 5 goals.
21:29 I mean, which of course it will, because the entire will
21:31 give them a whole world will.
21:34 But now the eclipse is coming up. April 8, someone's going to
21:38 be watching this month from now. So, yeah, oh, yeah.
21:40 And nothing happened
21:42 and people that saying the into the world is coming in judgment
21:46 is coming from dog.
21:47 I think what drives that is the opportunity for people to get
21:50 likes on YouTube. I think I think that's it.
21:54 Somebody contacted me the other day. It is written not somebody
21:58 from it is written but somebody contacted me at my office
22:01 and said I'm so scared of who that Nashville is about to be
22:04 destroyed by 5 goals with this eclipse.
22:09 No, you know that Nashville is just 3 hours from. We'll live
22:13 in about 2 and a half hours where I live. So I guess we
22:16 look outside on the eclipse day. We may see way off in the
22:19 distance.
22:21 An orange glow on the horizon.
22:25 Spoiler alert.
22:27 Nothings about to happen in Nashville. Not anytime soon.
22:30 And other than the usual stuff.
22:32 April 8 is going to come and go and Nash was going to be
22:35 completely intact.
22:37 In fact, God isn't going to single Nashville out for any
22:40 treatment that he's not going to bestow upon any other.
22:43 What will the city that chooses not to repeat?
22:46 People are convinced there's a little cottage industry in
22:50 seizing on the sensational and exploiting it in order to know
22:54 what people do it.
22:56 It's just base to shy away from that that extreme. There's
23:00 nothing biblical that suggests is nothing in any inspired
23:04 writing. You're going to read that suggest that Nationals
23:07 being singled out for treatment that no one else is is going to
23:11 get San Francisco, Los Angeles, Oakland, Detroit, Cleveland,
23:15 Columbus would only what Houston, Dallas, San Antonio,
23:21 Chattanooga, Nashville, Memphis.
23:24 They're all going to go. What we've done
23:28 is we've allowed ourselves to go from being people of the
23:31 book
23:32 to being people of
23:34 who knows what
23:36 you want to stay with the Bible. And I want to show you
23:39 this one about to say I fully realize could be
23:42 misinterpreted.
23:44 So let's see how this works out.
23:47 You know, there's a reason the Bible says we are the body of
23:51 Christ
23:53 and you don't want to amputate yourself from the body of
23:56 Christ for no good reason.
23:58 Now, I don't mean to say listen to the pope when he speaks
24:02 excuse cedar and only followed, he says, I mean, to say the
24:06 mine for yourself.
24:08 But I have been of a mind to think that if I know godly
24:11 consecrated Bible students
24:14 who are the least bit concerned about something
24:17 probably in my best interest not to stand up and tell the
24:21 world that this and that is going to take place.
24:25 It's possible the angel of the Lord PA asked the every pastor
24:30 in Bible teacher in pasta overall, the scholars and
24:32 academics, the academics on right about everything. It's
24:35 possible that the spirit of the Lord posh they love
24:39 and came to me.
24:41 It's possible,
24:44 but it's not very possible. Probable is not possible but
24:49 not probable, right? Yeah. So there's a need to stay with
24:53 the body.
24:54 Stay with the body. Now this is where I'm worried about someone
24:57 misinterpreted. What to me. I don't mean don't have an
25:00 original thought. I don't mean pro. Don't pray to God and she
25:03 lied. I don't mean that.
25:05 But I cannot tell you how many people with extreme views share
25:09 the views of me as a huge check this with well, I would.
25:13 Why wouldn't you want other people you trust saying about
25:16 what you're sharing?
25:18 Doesn't seem to matter. If I can get a following all that
25:21 goes out the window. Now I can be someone
25:24 because I've got a new view. I've got a point that differs
25:27 from the wrist and not that's not. I do want to tell you
25:31 something about the Bible that no one else in our church
25:34 believes. Good to me. Yeah. The John the Baptist, really
25:38 each locus chores at the care of. But I believe what you
25:41 want. But he did in consequential.
25:44 But I'm not company with new light until I got to check out
25:47 the whole bunch of people. And I know that I'm not leading
25:51 you astray.
25:53 You don't have to go find Christianity to find Bible
25:55 teaches who are off the wall men. And yet they managed to
26:00 pull together a significant following and a massive income.
26:05 You don't need to be theologically orthodox
26:10 in order to be successful. Sometimes the crazier, the
26:13 better
26:15 but in the eyes of God, we want to be sure to richly 6, 6,
26:18 but we do not want to cough up our integrity.
26:21 You want to stay with the Bible.
26:23 Avoid speculation.
26:26 Speculation is extreme
26:30 and that should expect a road. You don't want to go down
26:32 because there are a week people around you who are going to
26:35 swallow that stuff, Hoke line and sinker because they put
26:38 their faith in you rather than did faith in God. I mean,
26:42 so these are extreme is the sensation was strucked stuff.
26:46 Is an extremely want to Sean.
26:47 >> In some ways, I think that
26:52 some churchgoers want to be entertained 100% true. And so
26:57 they encourage be careful how you
27:01 compliment
27:02 someone who speaking be careful about getting too excited about
27:07 somebody just, you know, Paulson Per-screen teens to 2.
27:11 When I was among you, I I resolve not to know anything
27:15 but Christ and him crucified.
27:18 Sometimes we encourage people to deep delap a style. Do you
27:24 that?
27:25 It's entertaining.
27:27 I think that the church members are as much at fault as the as
27:31 the person who delivers that way and with media now, whether
27:35 it's TV or the Internet.
27:36 >> A person can become the flavor of the month. Pretty
27:38 quickly. Yes. And and it's not uncommon to to seize on the new
27:44 personality aimed elevating someone real quick. It is is
27:49 being proven frequently to be in unhealthy. Other extremes.
27:53 Diet. Don't be careful here
27:57 because one person's extreme is another person's knoll.
28:01 Now, what would an extreme? And I'd be one extremist.
28:04 Did you see what you want? I don't care. All do what I
28:07 want to go to with my body. You go to die. Something
28:10 the other extreme would be vegetarianism. No, I think
28:14 that's mainstream. I think that's sensible veganism that
28:17 was seen to be extreme want. It's not now particularly in
28:20 certain countries of the world which soup a mainstream.
28:24 So, you know, Whole Foods, it's it's full of the gun, some of
28:28 them wearing Birkenstocks and some of them and off. So
28:32 there's that
28:34 fruit. Harry in this
28:37 right. But they may be times from additional reasons,
28:41 right? You just don't eat fruit
28:43 Rhule. Food only. No, I don't want to criticize the push and
28:48 we want the rule food, even though I can promise you I'm
28:51 not only going to eat real food.
28:53 I went to a restaurant. It's run by a a Asian religious
28:57 organization. And probably it's a gift to me from God that I
29:01 can't remember the name of the restaurants. I was going to
29:04 take my wife Melissa and say what saying that place and was
29:08 soon as we go off here. Remember it. But it's good that
29:10 I don't
29:11 we're in the you know, you know, there's this lovely Asian
29:13 food, the kindly priced.
29:16 And there's a video on the wall playing in. This is the not a
29:20 good rookie. She's not Indian. But this is to
29:22 the spiritual leader.
29:25 They're asking her what they're asking her about Bri Ferrier
29:29 and isn't.
29:30 Do you think I'm making this up? We watched it with our own
29:33 eyes. People who'd arrived old in nutrition from breathing.
29:38 Yeah.
29:39 And the question is what about these break? Derrion's who'd
29:42 died? You know it surprise you that
29:45 Swami the religious leadership, what they would they would
29:49 doing it wrong, migrated to funny that they would play this
29:52 in a restaurant, encouraging people to eat by breathing.
29:56 Now that's extreme. That's destructive that I've been can
29:59 accused of inhaling my food, though. Yahoo. I see what you
30:04 do. They will play. That was a good one so that we can agree
30:09 is an extreme.
30:11 I want to be careful of labeling someone who doesn't
30:14 want to show you're a fruit area. Well, for each cool,
30:17 unique role, food. Well, I hope you're monitoring your health,
30:21 but if it's working for you,
30:23 it's working for you.
30:25 And you may say it's a healthy. I'm not here to criticize it.
30:29 He's the extreme.
30:31 The extreme as we you don't get another push in the grace.
30:35 It meant to be what they feel like they need to be. But that
30:38 person eats meat
30:39 and not just teachers, vegetarianism
30:43 and you'll proud. And the Bible teaches at pride is an
30:46 abomination while you can share and about the beef but not
30:50 concerned about your pride.
30:52 The Bible says don't don't destroy the kingdom of God of
30:55 the meat and drink. So what I'm what I'm suggesting is the
30:59 extreme here is judgmental isn't.
31:02 >> And now I have to tell you thought you loved this.
31:06 I was thinking about jet people who are judgmental the other
31:11 day of the spring for someone actually left.
31:13 And all of a sudden what gave me this thought when we put
31:17 ourselves in
31:20 when we become an accuser of the threat of yet more pointing
31:23 a finger in judging them,
31:25 we're playing the role of say who was the acute or accuser
31:29 that where the lion the goal of Saint. Would that be quick not
31:34 to accuse? Yeah, one. Yeah, you know, because people are very
31:36 quick sometimes to just say I wanted, you know, they did this
31:40 this flight.
31:41 >> I was in the church recently and they have these very,
31:43 very healthy potlucks great.
31:46 I thought, I mean, under the gun. So it's vegan food.
31:50 I it's open season. You know, I got to be careful. Cuss a
31:55 balloon in recent times that you can
31:58 vegan food and put on an unhealthy amount of weight.
32:02 He too much.
32:03 So you might have the right kind of food that at least how
32:06 I say it is over, but too much of it. Others will be John.
32:11 You know, yeah, so, but but they should, you know, in this
32:14 church we used to it used to be more diverse, what but that it
32:18 was done this unfold.
32:20 But since that the food police have established a little more
32:25 authority to that telling people you can't bring that.
32:30 We don't want that here and making people feel
32:33 pool and we can and judged.
32:36 You know, if Missus Smith wants to bring a fish casserole
32:40 and she rose up the pot luck with the fish. Casserole
32:44 of Mister Brown wants to bring his didn't know what it would
32:47 be as she she's she says I yeah, yeah. You know what you
32:52 say.
32:53 Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Missus Smith. Thank you,
32:57 Mister Brown. Thank you. Missus. Washington was so
33:00 grateful. We're going to put that right here on the table.
33:03 If you didn't line them up a little label on it. So people
33:05 know what it is.
33:07 And and you know what? When someone sees this fish is going
33:10 to be feeding frenzy,
33:12 it will be gone big on 45 seconds? No, no, I'm not saying
33:17 anything goes. I'm saying what goes is kindness. And if that
33:23 fish dish would offend the congregation?
33:27 >> Well, then maybe people will Smith.
33:29 >> On enough, you know this
33:31 and then you have a kind would make this a way to do it.
33:33 And Mister Smith is going to kind of funny because that was
33:35 the first issue gone to know what you're talking about.
33:39 Where is the love, right? There's got to be love.
33:42 Anything way. You are not love it. I know somebody's going to
33:46 read sure has no standards. When it comes to an I told you
33:50 my personal stand. It is.
33:54 So this isn't what without children think
33:57 I peoples of what with teaching our children to be raised a
34:00 certain way to be one of the it.
34:03 I said, well, listen, here's what we do.
34:05 What we used to do.
34:07 We would say when the kids were little,
34:09 this is how we live. It's what we've chosen this, what we feel
34:12 God wants us to do.
34:15 But what we know is that there are some people who don't share
34:19 a point. If you, you know, we respect them. We don't agree
34:22 with him, but we respect you. Expect we expect you to respect
34:25 them too.
34:27 Well, the kids on all of a sudden going to run over and
34:29 this is Smith's fish.
34:31 They're going to do what they've seen. You do it.
34:33 And and you've told them kindly, we love those people
34:36 there, friends and neighbors. We don't agree with all the
34:38 decisions. They probably don't agree with some of those.
34:42 So we're going to do. We think God wants us to do and will
34:44 respect them. How about that? It worked for my kids
34:49 and that it would it work. Well extremes. So you get these
34:53 guy. I'm going to step on. Somebody tells you, but no
34:56 agenda goes. So
35:00 this this was big a few years ago.
35:02 We'll have to go live in the country, but no prom with that.
35:07 But the dad who's in the U.S.
35:09 cuts down to one day week so we can spend 6 days a week raising
35:13 his kids
35:15 again. Again, I do want to criticize anybody's lifestyle
35:18 choice, but I think your kids want to see that much.
35:22 I think, you know, kids need to know that dads go to work now,
35:25 by the way, if you if you can pull it off, you could you
35:28 insomuch one day week?
35:30 Well, the new with today's weekend in more.
35:33 Yeah. If you if you can pull it off, I guess that's fine.
35:38 But really what do you what do you not? What do you not
35:41 telling a kid about the value of hard work?
35:45 What do you not telling your children about the blessing of
35:50 of being at work in and being a provide a in what what do you
35:54 not giving them to aspire to? I think it's an extreme on
35:59 another room with you live in the country. I love to live in
36:01 the country living in a boat and nice and they would love to
36:04 live in the actual good.
36:06 But when it became fashionable for people to ditch the job
36:09 done runoff and live in the wilderness,
36:12 another question for you who you sheen to out day. I'm glad
36:15 that fit what sticks in Franco's coming 8 out of your
36:17 hands. But, you know, go to baptize the D a
36:20 ways you'll feel the delay. But you got to tell me those 6
36:24 days you're traveling into the city where you don't put your
36:26 little kid's mind by going into the city. Do you
36:29 the is going to be a balance somewhere.
36:32 You don't be so sorry for the cliche heavenly minded that you
36:35 have no 3 good. The
36:37 if you're a successful shoe sales person
36:41 or successful seamstress for successful school teacher
36:45 rocket hit the water that are you going to be busy and you're
36:48 going you're going to struggle to find the balance between
36:52 wook
36:53 and family life. So let's talk about that
36:57 because you can get people who become so extreme with work.
36:59 The kids never see them. So here I am telling that the
37:02 one-day week guy that he probably ought to
37:05 go to the office more.
37:07 I understand that's a personal decision and someone's incensed
37:10 that I would say that my children would welcome you
37:13 going to work more often.
37:16 But how about the dad? Who's at the office all the time?
37:20 Orange running a business. I've never run a business.
37:24 I don't know personally how demanding that is. Why a lot of
37:27 people have it to put demonte. It will consume you.
37:32 I could you know who I have Kathy Smith recently from
37:36 Sylvan Hills Bakery
37:37 on a podcast called Faith on top run by couple English guys
37:42 that the 10 episode it's worth listening to its Christians in
37:46 business
37:47 and how they can be people of faith
37:50 and people of business.
37:53 And Kathy said something really interesting about how
37:56 businesses so that he sometimes
37:58 and it has been is going to be a way and and things you got to
38:02 get picked up at home and maybe she can to dad.
38:05 You recognize
38:08 sometimes how it's going to be. She was very down and very
38:11 appropriate. Yeah. She spoke about that.
38:14 Sometimes that happens. So you compensate for that another
38:17 way. If you say I'm only going to work 40 hours all the rest
38:20 of my time, is it on? Maybe you can do that? I count. Maybe you
38:24 can.
38:25 But when I was at home, I was home.
38:27 I didn't come home from work until the kids don't bother me.
38:29 I'm going into my office when I was home and I had office work
38:32 that wait until after the kids went to bed and all my time was
38:36 the A's. Then they look for to daddy coming home because we're
38:39 going to hang out. We're going to play. We're going have a
38:41 good time
38:43 when it comes to work-life balance.
38:46 There's no such thing. What I mean is there is no valent ox
38:51 perfectly in balance now. Know this week, my family
38:55 didn't see me because things at the business were out of
38:57 control
38:59 and maybe you put that energy and nail. So the later on you
39:03 the comfortable life and more to give to God. Mort, you can
39:07 take time off more time in ministry.
39:10 I'm not saying everybody needs to pursue the same lifestyle
39:12 far from it on looking at this work life balance which I think
39:16 is a phrase that doesn't mean very much. I call it work live
39:20 with them. That's a much better way of putting it. Yeah,
39:23 yeah, you can get into a certain rhythm.
39:25 >> Yes, and it's it's something that to
39:28 if a few we've owned our own business. But if you're working
39:32 in a, you know, ministry you there's no such thing as having
39:36 a perfect balance between your personal cushy. Don't know
39:39 what's coming. That's right. But
39:42 you get in this rig, it's it's the same with the Lord your
39:45 relationship with them or you can get in working so much that
39:50 you lose that rhythm with the Lord because you're not
39:53 spending that quality time. But it's all about getting into
39:58 a rhythm and make sure that what's important to the Lord
40:03 and that here
40:05 spouse your children.
40:07 >> People are getting your quality to chapel struggle with
40:10 this. It's a real thing said. So if you're aware all that,
40:13 that's half the battle right there, being no error of it.
40:16 And then you say, watch,
40:19 I'm out of my available time. Am I dedicated my family?
40:24 You know, it's one thing is I worked so hard now going to
40:26 play golf for 4 hours and then go with my buddies in the
40:29 evening.
40:30 No, if businesses consuming you, I probably let the Gulf
40:33 go. I I think it said that I can spend some time with my
40:36 family.
40:38 You just want to be certain that you not.
40:42 I saw the other day talking about how he was successful.
40:45 We start to make money and start to really get hit.
40:47 Really good. Really good.
40:49 And his wife
40:52 sit a couple of things to that were a wake-up call and he
40:54 realized I'm not given my family anything. I thought I
40:58 was giving them everything.
40:59 But they need more than material stuff.
41:03 They need me there. And so we figured it out and he could.
41:06 He could still work. But he's making himself available for
41:09 the family.
41:10 It becomes extreme when it's all about
41:13 business. How you got to pull it back. You probably don't
41:15 need that super expensive cars. So you don't need that much
41:19 money. I'm not against expensive cars. You can afford
41:21 not yourself out.
41:22 You probably don't need yet another house. You probably
41:25 don't need more stuff. If that's what's driving, you pull
41:30 back. Do you want and say what's most important? God
41:34 first family second, all the other stuff. Is it?
41:36 >> Distant 3rd, at this least repeat because I've been trying
41:41 to teach someone to say that who soon industry that, you
41:45 know,
41:46 Paula says that if someone can't man eat his home, how
41:49 maintaining you with love, then he can manage the church.
41:54 It's God first. Didn't family in your ministry. So true.
41:59 >> We don't talk about that a lot. We knew we need to talk
42:01 about that a whole lot more. So people who are successful in
42:04 ministry and the families here in absolute miss want to miss,
42:09 you know, be careful telling the story. I will not name
42:12 names, but I see 2 of Angeles once. Can you give me some
42:14 advice? He looked very content on the show. What about,
42:18 you know, just give me some advice. I'd like some advice
42:20 from you.
42:22 He did this. She looked to him one way. He looked back.
42:27 Put your family first
42:32 son of a very well-known minister.
42:35 I thought that's telling you. He's dead famous as famous.
42:40 Never put his family first. Yes.
42:42 >> This is 2 things I want to mention here and I I think this
42:46 is a decent statement. Hope it is. Yeah. Monkey see monkey do
42:51 sure. No question about our main boy. You can set yourself
42:54 up real quick being a workaholic,
42:59 Melissa in Shannon and Jake Upper city here.
43:04 They just might follow suit. Yeah.
43:06 >> Yeah. Your wife had been Jacob can shade into this thing
43:11 like it's like they don't like that old song catching the
43:13 Cradle move. That song asked. Yes song. Yeah. Ad was away so
43:17 much. That was boy grew up. He didn't want to be around a
43:19 stay at the well. That's a wake-up call.
43:21 >> Second thing, boy, and this is to make this. This is a
43:24 major lesson we will take to all
43:27 when my best friends growing up
43:30 this time for his senior year in high school,
43:33 we're going to go what we learned the so we're saying,
43:36 well, I want to go to this college. I'm going to go this
43:38 cause and then the valedictorian of our class,
43:41 the best looking guy in our class.
43:43 He says that
43:46 I'm going to
43:48 get a job
43:50 and stay with it for 30 years.
43:52 What we did know is that his father was the one. He was the
43:56 center of all the attractions. Hasan want to take us all out
43:59 would go 100 miles an hour and everything. But what we didn't
44:02 know is that his father couldn't keep a job more than a
44:05 month. Oh, interesting. There was really interesting is.
44:09 And so
44:10 the lesson here is
44:13 we may not know what we wanted to,
44:16 but we certainly know what we don't want to do that. You're a
44:20 big lesson right there. And so it it's far as being ballots.
44:27 >> I was at a a conference ministers meeting recently with
44:31 the ministers at a certain region of the country together.
44:34 In the end, the president, the leader of that organization
44:37 said to the ministers, he said,
44:39 you make sure
44:41 you're taking time with your family needs to make sure at
44:45 least an entire day, at least one and tied a note saying,
44:49 but at least how that one entire day
44:52 as well as the other.
44:54 And if you church members squeal you, you say
44:58 the president's council. Well, I like that. That was not
45:01 present because otherwise we can go saving the world.
45:05 Losing out families. Yes, it's extreme, but you don't back
45:08 cough. You don't sell. Not taking that phone call on off
45:11 the clock. No. You do make that 10:30PM, Hospital visit all
45:16 that one in the hospital visit because you're a servant and
45:19 now that being you God time, I don't make it sound easy there.
45:23 Pastas everywhere in ministry workers, Evers icon figured
45:26 out, but you can. God did not call you sacrificed your
45:31 children equal Abraham to do that.
45:34 Even then he stopped him.
45:35 He didn't hold me to do that. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't call.
45:38 You may get another one extreme
45:41 criticism.
45:44 I would like to say
45:48 I don't have the right eye was about to say you the generic
45:53 you nobody has the right to publicly criticize another
46:00 human genome. Thank you. Use should we don't have the
46:04 right
46:05 to publicly criticize church leaders.
46:08 You got to hear that with balance because their time we
46:11 need to have discussions. Should we do? We can have
46:14 discussions.
46:16 You almost never know what's going on inside those meetings.
46:19 You almost never know how a decision was reached. Almost
46:23 never.
46:25 You have not walked a mile in the shoes of that man with that
46:28 woman.
46:29 And so to be one of these extremists firing off criticism
46:33 left and right,
46:35 you know what I wouldn't want to do. I wouldn't want to face
46:37 Ted in the judgment and I wouldn't want to he's not that
46:41 the walleye won. Why? When I say listen, I I spent the
46:45 evening with Jillian JT quick change. I can tell you
46:49 and you know what, you don't know about them. And I got to
46:52 you know what I'm doing that not only my tearing you down
46:54 upon being negative, but these this person they looked up to
46:58 you
46:59 and what would have rushed in and they seem like such
47:01 Christians
47:02 and now that she's disappointed that you're a hypocrite,
47:06 it could cause this person lose his will, who would know it
47:09 could cause him to lose their way.
47:12 And and that not only have I done the devil's work in
47:15 maligning somebody, but I'm also placed a stumbling block
47:19 before that person who looked up to the lead. Even if it's
47:23 true, they don't need to know.
47:26 You know, one of the witnesses is one ups. One,
47:29 nobody wants to get in the group and not somebody always
47:32 wants. Well, I know something. You don't know that you're on.
47:35 And more than all the sudden
47:37 it takes a life of its own yet. Should us things are said that
47:41 shouldn't be said
47:42 making up stories that should have been tried in the ocean
47:45 stories. Yes, yeah. So so as as Bracho saying, well, if you see
47:49 something, you like that, you that you just got to s*** it up
47:51 and saying nothing know first, you have a good talk with God,
47:55 but over the head of the Lord says what you need to say
47:58 something you're going to write the kind of slip
48:01 the kindest email you're going to put, maybe if you can
48:04 approach the person to person to person and you be so kind so
48:07 that when you say what they've said, that person's going to
48:10 say, well, that was a Christian person. My goodness that really
48:13 spoke highly spoke like Jesus would speak. You go in, you go
48:17 face-to-face, push and push Matthew, 18 men. You be so kind
48:21 and so sweet that the push will be happy that you expressed
48:23 your consent. Yes. After that, you don't start a civil war,
48:28 you don't. But now, you know, so often people will.
48:32 >> One our opinion on some poll. Yeah. And you know,
48:35 you've got be careful when sharing an opinion in and like
48:39 you said, people are quick to share opinions be. It was it
48:43 makes them look important. JT has a saying in and we've
48:47 adopted this and this is how we do it. Somebody last what we
48:51 think about certain news story or something he just says,
48:55 I just don't have enough information. And as you said,
48:58 we don't know what goes high and dry with just got to be
49:02 king careful by your word, too. Few quid I were to peak and and
49:07 it's right.
49:08 Put a guard over the door-post. Yeah, my lips, Lord.
49:11 >> The church is as someone wrote,
49:15 though, it's week enfeebled and effective.
49:18 It is the one object upon this upon which Christ peace toes in
49:22 a special since he's supremely got Bible, right? A cold or the
49:26 apple of God's eye.
49:29 You know, I don't want you even if you know something about my
49:33 mother.
49:35 That's all full and true. I want to know me because I
49:39 just don't know, according to church, my mother. But even if
49:43 you know something about the church, that's often true.
49:45 You know, if it's to guide and God somebody and keep them from
49:49 evil, you may want you may want to talk to.
49:52 But because you know that the church really did did something
49:55 this so that was room. That's too no, you don't want to
49:58 criticize. That's so next. Stream really bad when you rush
50:04 to that now now with the Internet, we can tell the
50:06 entire world the supposed sins of some into tea, some should
50:12 some church lead. And why would you do that?
50:16 Someone said something somewhere. First thing I'm
50:19 going to do is tell the world
50:24 maybe they should and maybe they didn't. But have you
50:26 thought about what that person is going to go through now
50:29 being being being lambasted
50:33 from sea to shining sea? I think you want you want to be
50:37 rid, didn't don't you came out this. You've got to be
50:39 redemptive. But now it's so easy to be extreme. Extremely
50:44 critical.
50:45 You know what you do it now, if you're willing to die for that
50:48 person,
50:49 then then you're you're in it
50:52 too big to begin with you. You're in a good place.
50:55 What you're going to do is, you know, talk to Jea says, and
50:57 you're going to be guided by the Holy Spirit, going the with
51:01 God that you cause no hom that you don't. Of course, somebody
51:05 to stumble. What is gained by ripping someone like
51:10 criticizing?
51:14 I think it probably happens in
51:16 every church.
51:18 They re denomination everywhere. If it doesn't,
51:23 that's the exception. And I think we can do better. That's
51:26 the devil's work. And we do want to give ground to the
51:29 devil. You know,
51:31 the reason I believe this is so important
51:34 is because you said it really Shelley,
51:36 the devil does not care whether you get you here or there just
51:39 as long as you get you. We are living in a time of absolute
51:44 crisis.
51:45 The devil as a roaring lion walks about seeking whom he may
51:50 devour. We will have a target right on us. The devil is angry
51:56 with the church and has gone to make war with the rim and other
51:59 seed that's taking place. Now, when we're in a spiritual
52:03 crisis,
52:05 the world has changed. The nuclear family is and a massive
52:08 attack. The devil is seen to be that way.
52:11 When I grew up my file that was at blue collar work to do
52:16 enough blue collar work at you and Ian Little. Nothing.
52:19 Mom stayed home.
52:21 We came home from school. Was there?
52:25 I think that's great. I actually think that's ideal.
52:28 Yes. But for many families, it's unattainable. Yeah,
52:31 because prices are so high, mortgage rate mortgages are so
52:36 big. The cost of housing has gone through the roof. So what
52:40 that does is it stretches the family whose home for the kids
52:44 that they raising themselves. Are they being raised by an
52:47 iPad and a television screen that's not healthy and not
52:51 criticizing acknowledging that society has forced us to that
52:55 place where it's more and more and more. I was at a high
52:58 school. I said to a kid, you looking tired, man. He got the
53:01 jobs up to 4 o'clock this morning has what you do in a
53:04 fall clock homework. He said not Netflix. My life is
53:10 I don't think he was watching Bambi for
53:13 our own little or no. He would not watching. Yeah,
53:18 but that will be live in now.
53:20 It's a really, really difficult world. So to find balance in
53:25 that hat, I can tell you how
53:28 I can tell you how to parents working hard to provide a roof
53:31 over the head of the children.
53:33 You can do everything perfectly. I don't know.
53:36 But I know it's possible God doesn't condemn or criticize
53:39 those who find themselves working more than they want to.
53:41 We've got to have some way to live. We need to feed our kids.
53:45 We did. Church school is not cheap.
53:47 And so we do this. But in the you've got to find that balance
53:50 somehow that puts geez is at the center of the the center of
53:55 the and he'll be that thing that the home balances on
54:00 with. There's no balance if we're not leaving our children
54:02 to Jesus every day. If you pray with your kit with the with the
54:07 hat, family worship
54:09 ideally twice a day, but schedules don't away so loud
54:11 that so you have family worship, pray for you, cut and
54:16 pray. Now, if you're too busy to pray,
54:20 then something's got. You've got to give something back to
54:23 the devil because he's the one who load your plate up so big
54:26 that God got squeezed off the plate.
54:30 We first got to be praying yourself. We've got to be
54:33 reading a Bible South zone, then otherwise we're
54:35 unbalanced. It's the it's the Bible. It's the would have
54:38 gone. It's pretty that keeps us balance. Keeps us oriented in
54:42 the right direction. Balance is found in a complete commitment
54:48 to Jesus being that living sacrifice now lives around
54:52 mixed right now because we stretch in 100 different ways.
54:55 We think we can have it all. You can have a goal
54:58 you want to. You want to live in a palace by the time.
55:00 You're 35. You kidding me. You want to own every latest
55:03 vehicle. It was grow up. Make make some decisions that
55:08 are based not on your ego but on your income. You want it.
55:10 You want to do it all. You can do it all. So do what you can
55:15 do, what you must. But put your put Jesus first family first,
55:20 faith in God. First, if those things on first us so far out
55:25 of balance, it's not funny.
55:27 >> You know, it takes intentional effort is a
55:29 steadfast commitment coming. You've got to encourage your
55:32 life on the truth of God's word. Quickly. The Preakness,
55:37 some 20
55:39 5 and verse 8 to 10.
55:42 Good enough for it. It's the Nord. Therefore he teaches
55:46 centers. We're all sinners in the way the humble he guides
55:51 injustice. Humility is depending on him all the past,
55:55 the Lord of Mercy and truth to such as keep his company and
55:59 his testimonies. So we are in a cup of the relationship of
56:03 righteousness by faith with the Lord you can count on him.
56:08 John Brennan show, thank you so much for me. I hope we've
56:11 covered some ground that's helped my body. So I think we
56:15 could probably talk about this festival more shun. The
56:17 extremes, embrace Jesus and in Clinton like Olympic clings to
56:22 the holiday ship.
56:24 And I want you mentioned to someone watching that maybe
56:27 saying, can I really be safety issue can and you know what?
56:32 When he goes you with this holy Spirit, he works in you,
56:35 too. Willing to do is get play yes. And he promises to
56:39 complete the good work case began anew. I got to do is
56:43 pray.
56:44 Why didn't you
56:45 give up
56:47 10 seconds.
56:48 >> Advice. Yeah. I want to encourage you to know that God
56:50 loves you. He wants the very best view of things are out of
56:53 balance. It's not too late to bring you back. Give your heart
56:56 to Jesus pray. Those pray of commitment will hold you in the
56:59 hollow of his hand.
57:00 >> Thank you so make you thank you for being with us with that
57:03 thing. Plus, the pressure
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