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00:04 >> I want to 00:17 [MUSIC] 00:26 >> too. 00:31 [MUSIC] 00:36 >> I'm 00:42 >> and 00:47 I want to stand. 00:49 [MUSIC] 00:52 I'm too. 00:54 [MUSIC] 00:59 [MUSIC] 01:05 [MUSIC] 01:07 >> Hello and welcome to another 3, a man today program. Thank 01:10 you for joining us. Is you do each and every day. What a 01:14 blessing it is to serve the Lord. What a blessing it is to 01:17 have a family of on around the world. It is. It is. And we get 01:22 to talk to our families. And when we go to these 01:24 rallies, we get to see you in person at the end. We're going 01:27 to go into some I think the next couple months or so. 01:30 I think we're going to Huntsville next. We in the next 01:32 few weeks, next couple weeks and we're going to Minnesota, 01:35 I think. And and we're going to be gone. So he sure looked to 01:39 schedules and hopefully when where some of these rallies you 01:42 can come and come and join us. We're here with Ryan Day. 01:45 Pastor Dennis, Good to have you here today. Always a blessing 01:48 to be a part of the 3ABN Thursday night live in. Just 01:51 want to welcome. Everyone at home will have a great 01:53 discussion tonight. 01:54 >> And down in that seat, there's a big screen in the 01:59 side of the TV screen and Pastor James Rafferty. Rather. 02:03 I have you and let me. Yeah. Haha. I love that. You know, 02:10 used to flee Skype. We had would put a picture up or 02:13 something while someone talk now you're just like you right 02:16 here with us. He's at the other end of the table. We love it. 02:19 He couldn't be here. But you're going to be here next week or 02:21 so, right? You guys start some 7 school programs and all of 02:25 that. So we love it. When you re see or hear and we're going 02:29 to be doing can't meeting ending starting June 5th. 02:31 So put that on your calendar and get ready for that. That 02:35 reminded me of all the folks that are going to be coming 02:37 here. We're going to have great camp meeting room and we're 02:40 going to start out Wednesday night, actually with the Larry 02:42 Gatlin and is to be Larry Gatlin. You know, the Gatlin 02:46 brothers Friday. Still, Larry has been saying in the family, 02:50 they still say he's a Christian, given his life to 02:52 the Lord, got a great testimony. So he's going to be 02:55 here 6 o'clock Wednesday evening. And that's June the 02:59 5th. So that's first night of camp meeting. So I know we're 03:01 going have a lot of people. So come come quick, come early. 03:05 So you get a seat, enjoy the blessings of camp. Many will be 03:08 there throughout the week. So we're looking forward to 03:11 that then. Also before we get on our topics, going to be a 03:15 hot topic tonight. So we're going talk politics. How about 03:19 that? Who are always? So we try to stay. You try to stay away 03:21 from dry. Sometimes you can help it. So let me rephrase 03:26 that. We're going talk Bible, alright, and taught Bible. 03:29 If you want to talk politics, you can talk politics, but 03:32 we're going talk Bible. Well, that's all that we believe in 03:35 is what the Bible says. We really don't care what politics 03:39 with the on the left or the right or somewhere in between. 03:42 We're just worried about and concerned about what God says. 03:45 And we want to be one of those and that number, wait eastern 03:49 skies break and we can look up and say low. This is our about 03:52 whom we waited for. He has come to say this. Pastor James, 03:56 again, it's so good to have you here. And we when we do topics 04:02 like this, I really want you to be around because I look at 04:05 whether James is more of a he's scholarly. I'm not. So he's 04:10 very organized. He's very studied. He's been studying 04:13 this message and we're going to be talking about in time. 04:16 Prophecies were going to be talking about things. I think 04:18 we put the title. Can Christians enforce morality or 04:21 maybe should Christians tried of force morality? So you can 04:25 say why say politics? Because somebody is going to say all 04:28 they're going to the laughter, they're going to the right and 04:30 we may talk about. And I think we will. I think we'll talk 04:33 about some of the things on both sides tonight, but we're 04:36 going to end up somewhere in between right with the word of 04:39 God. So thank you again, Pastor James, for being here. God 04:42 bless you and race for what you all do for the cause of got. 04:46 Now before we get started, we have a brand new project, 04:49 a van, and that is the book can can the Christian Church affirm 04:54 LGBTQ the one that we're to spin out several months? 04:59 We we we've got a plan for that brother, James. And that plan 05:02 is we want that book to go to every Christian pastor, every 05:07 pastor and America. 05:10 And so everyone in America, every denomination of every 05:13 denomination. So we're going to start out. We're starting out 05:17 this week and putting things together. I think they're 05:19 72,000 Baptist churches and the United States. So we're 05:24 starting out with getting addresses together. We have to 05:27 get the name lists all of this little expensive to get the 05:30 list of, you know, all of those pastors then do the mailing. 05:34 We're going to send books virtually to every pastor. 05:37 Then we're going on to the other denominations from 05:40 Catholic to Methodist to whatever. And I'm sure the math 05:44 there's we probably should do those first. I think 6,000 05:47 churches split because of that topic, really about the LGBTQ 05:52 movement within the church. But this is something. So what 05:55 we're gonna do it on, how can folks tonight we're asking if 05:59 you would like to make a donation to help us get is 06:02 going to be several. Hundreds of thousands of these books 06:05 will go to virtually every pastor and America. If you want 06:10 willing to help with that, give a tax deductible donation, 06:13 how how can they do it? 06:14 >> Well, they can, first of all call because they're people 06:19 tonight in the call center waiting for your calls. You can 06:23 call 618-627-4651. So you can call and or you can email us 06:31 live at 3 ABN DOT TV or you can go to the website, 3, 3, 06:37 ABN Dot TV and you can order the books. Actually you can 06:41 order. 06:42 >> Make the order to sponsor that these books tonight 06:46 because we need sponsor. Yeah. Yeah. 06:51 >> So your donation is tax-deductible. So whatever you 06:54 can get, whether it's $5 or 505,000 will be appreciated. 06:58 But I think this is a big enough topic within the 07:02 Christian community that this NIE, every pastor needs to have 07:06 some ammunition. I'm going to call up biblical ammunition us 07:09 as to how to to look at this and responsibly and say, 07:14 you know, I can see what the Bible says and it's up to him 07:17 to decide how he wants to preach it. But I think it's up 07:19 to us to get the Gospel get the truth. 07:22 >> To the world. So and it would use fund code 3.50, 07:25 fun code 3.50, OK, if anybody asked whoever you can color is 07:30 there on the Web sites on the Web site how they do it 07:32 tonight. So if they go to the website, they says okay, 07:36 so they can order but it's fund 3.50. They'll see the numbers. 07:39 The options. They're okay. Just choose fund 3.50. Okay. 07:43 Yeah. And and they can email that says live at 3 ABN dot 07:47 TVs, right? Yes. Or just call it that. You know all too 07:50 complicated. Now with all that up on your screen to okay, 07:54 618-627-4651, and a. 07:58 >> Don't you wish Greg and Joe was here. So good at what I 08:01 know. I can certainly not very good stuff. She's so organize. 08:06 You think choice and I'm not no. See what really? I caught 08:13 myself looking down the phone number that her almost 40 08:16 years. Haha. That's right. Absolutely. Yeah. So in a way, 08:21 if you like on Sir, help us sponsor these books to go to 08:25 virtually every pastor and America was starting out with 08:28 this 72,000. That is money comes in. We're going to get 08:31 all the churches. So if the lords impressing on you then 08:35 call and email us go to our website and how we want to do 08:38 it and then use code 3.50, for your donation and you'll get a 08:42 tax deductible yet what I want to do, maybe set the stage a 08:46 little bit. I want to give a little bit of the State of the 08:49 Union, the president of the United States. You know, 08:51 one he's up speaking about once a year ever so often gives the 08:55 state of the Union. Well, I'm not President United States 08:58 don't want to be glad I'm not. And but what I would like to do 09:02 is kind of give a little bit in summary here. So you all and 09:06 because this is you can tell that we haven't planned 09:08 everything out, but I've said hears the topics. You guys go 09:11 for the van, you, Tony. And so we're going to do this 09:14 together. And we've asked the Lord to bless, but I want to 09:17 say to begin with, if I could give a state of the church 09:20 right now, it would be a mess. 09:24 So that's my nutshell. The church, God is a mess. Now we 09:28 want to talk about and this good so talked rail tonight. 09:31 We're just going to do this to begin with and my age. I don't 09:34 have time to wait to put things off new, you know, for a later 09:38 time, Reince Young, as you are in kind of straight. I got to 09:42 throw it all out here, what I can. But if you look at the 09:45 state of the church, 09:47 the Jays, this is coming back for a pair of 5 bride of 09:49 purified church, a remnant people of God, those who keep 09:53 the commandments of God and have the faith of the testimony 09:56 of Jesus, right? That's where he's coming back for. But do 09:59 you think right now that we're waiting on Jesus to come back 10:03 and you think he's waiting on us to perfect his character 10:06 within our lives so he can come back for that Pier 5 ride that 10:10 purify the church? I think it's for the latter. Don't you know 10:13 that Jesus is waiting on us? Because we're divided. We're 10:16 divided by race or divide about culture. We're divided by 10:20 politics. All kinds of things within the church. I'm amazed 10:24 when you go on Facebook, I say Adventists Christian against 10:28 Adventists Christian literally on Facebook. So Yahoo. We're 10:34 and some music from somewhere hope that doesn't distract you 10:37 and so on on Facebook, people are like disagreeing and some 10:44 some Christians are on this side of the left side summer on 10:46 the right side. And it's like what the world is going on, 10:50 where people, you know, where we're coming from and what kind 10:54 of witnesses this to last and I'm world. So when I say that, 10:59 you know, we're we're in a mask. That's what I'm talking 11:02 about. I believe that that were already in the shaking. It 11:06 started in. The good news is we don't have to stay this way. 11:09 There's going to be a great revival coming. There's going 11:12 to be a latter rain coming. But before that happens, 11:15 we have to have conversations like we're going to have 11:17 tonight, even at the expense of maybe offending someone. 11:21 We're going to have to do that to get so everything out in the 11:24 open. So we can say, Lord, how you're going to hill this, 11:27 how you're going to heal us if my people will come right, 11:30 you know, skip your how you going to do this. Well, first 11:33 of all, we have to be open. We have to be willing and we 11:37 have to have to put the Bible before any politics, any 11:41 culture. 11:42 >> Any race that has to come first? May I read the 11:45 scripture? Yeah. 11:48 >> Because of the church is divided and Jesus in John 17. 11:53 So I do not pray for these along, but also for those who 11:57 will believe in me through their word that they may all be 12:00 one as you father are in me. And I in you 12:05 that they also may be one in us that the world may believe that 12:10 you sent me right now. We're so divided that the world can look 12:14 on. Look at the church and say 12:17 this is not if this is what Christianity is about, then I 12:22 don't want to impart any part of it because we are not one 12:26 because the devil is really, really working hard to divide 12:30 us. And we have to look globally. We have to look at 12:33 the big picture and not just 12:36 itemize things, but look at it from a spiritual place. And 12:39 that's both places say the devil is trying to deceive even 12:43 the very lead. So if we don't come together to the word of 12:48 God, that's why it's great that we're doing this program. 12:51 And again, there might be some people who are funded because 12:55 it's going to step on toes. But 12:57 >> we have to get to that place where we are one in Christ. 13:01 But if you call man, you're a Christian, you call me or text 13:04 me or e-mail or whatever. And you say you're offended. 13:06 >> I'm going to say look up sums one six-man 19, one 65 13:10 great piece. Have they add to all and nothing shallow about 13:14 that? Be able to forget about ourselves, right? Not be 13:19 offended. So we have a great I do want to call it an advantage 13:23 because it's for everyone. But we have 13:26 been able to do God's blessings. Hayes allowed 13:30 Leonard a church to really unlock the prophecies of Daniel 13:35 revelation. So there's no reason for us to be confused. 13:39 There's no reason with those of us Christians who understand 13:42 prophecy. So what we want to talk about tonight is we want 13:46 to talk about where are we? Where is America and prophecy, 13:52 whereas American prophecy and is it even can we look at these 13:56 books written thousands of years ago, Ryan and James, 13:59 can we look at him and say, OK, let's say, I think that's 14:02 America and then some all well know, maybe this or maybe it's 14:06 not even in there. Can we actually show from the Bible 14:11 America and processing of this? So can we get an idea of where 14:14 we are and that timeline? 14:17 All right. And that. 14:18 >> There's 2 scriptures that we can look at for this. One of 14:21 them is in revelation 13 and the other one is Romans 13. 14:24 So really easy. Remember because both of them are 14:27 chapter Thirteen's. We can start in revelation 13 as far 14:31 as trying to identify where we are in Bible prophecy and and 14:35 look and see in the context of the Bible. What our present 14:40 situation is based on the history behind us. So can we 14:44 start their relationship is the time to time. So, yeah, 14:47 OK, revelation 13. Let's just begin here with this picture 14:52 that we have in revelation, 13 of beasts. There's 2 of them 14:56 picture there. There's a beast that comes out of the sea and 14:59 as a beast that comes out of the earth and in Bible 15:03 prophecy, a beast represents a kingdom or power or thinking 15:06 the more power and God is using the same type of imagery that 15:09 we are familiar with. We often identify nations are kingdoms 15:14 with cymbals obese like America is in eagle and China is a 15:18 dragon in England. There's a lion and brushes and they're so 15:23 there's a language for us. These to be some revelation 15:26 chapter 13 east toque earthly powers come up from different 15:30 places. Now the first one comes up out of the sea, which 15:33 represents peoples nations multitudes in towns populated 15:37 area of the world. According to Revelation, 17, 15 see that 15:41 Daniel 7, 17 23 to tell us a beast represents an earthly 15:45 power. You've got revelation 17, 15 that tells us that 15:49 water's represent people's Nations mall too. Sometimes 15:53 this first beast we've identified Prophetically as the 15:57 religious power of the papacy. Roman, the Roman power of the 16:01 papacy, which rose up in the sequence, a battle on media 16:05 pressure. Greece and pagan Roman sat it occupies the seat. 16:10 A pagan Roman pagan. Rome fell in 4.76. papal wrong rose up 16:14 out of the ashes of that pagan system. And it established 16:17 itself as a world power, a viable world power. That power 16:22 lasted for about 1260 years from 5.38. To 17. 98. When I 16:27 say last night, I mean, it's no longer around. Of course it is. 16:31 But with strong civil authority, it bit began rain. 16:37 5.38 and it received a deadly wounded. 17 98 now with that 16:42 history in our background, let's just read revelation 16:46 chapter 13 and verse tent revelation 13 verse 10. Here's 16:50 what it says. He that leads into captivity show go into 16:54 captivity. He that kills with the sword will be killed with a 16:57 sword. Here is the patience and faith of the Saints. This is 17:02 describing what happened in 17, 98 for CA and the French 17:07 government went into wrong and took the poll captive. They led 17:11 him into captivity were eventually died February 17, 17:15 98. 17:16 And that is what the Bible calls in revelation, 13, 17:19 3, a deadly wound, a wound that would eventually be healed when 17:24 the how are the civil power of the papacy is restored. Now, 17:27 the papacy wasn't vanquished completely. It's still 17:30 maintained its crazy a** tickle power and authority, but it's 17:33 civil power was wounded. Now in that context, 17, 17:37 98, you see something really interesting happening. And this 17:40 is going to be clue number one, but identifies the United 17:43 States in Bible prophecy. OK, man, that clue is that in a 17:47 rose at the right time, right when the papacy was going down, 17:52 another nation was coming up. Notice verse 11 of Revelation 17:56 Chapter 13 17:58 and another ID held. Another beast coming up out of the 18:01 earth yet to ones like a land and he spake as a dragon. 18:05 So here we have a power that is rising up right when the papacy 18:10 is going down 17. 98 is when the papacy went down and 17. 18:14 76 is when we began to arise. Now, of course, America didn't 18:18 gain its independence for another 8 years. It was in 18:21 weight war with the British from 17, all 17. 73 or so 18:28 stymied. 75 or so. So 17 73 17. 74 was our 84 83. 84. It was 18:34 all clear. So we have the rise in America. In fact, even 18:38 fought another battle with the British in 18, 12 to about 18, 18:42 15. But it's coming up as this other power is going down. 18:47 The other clue that's really significant here is that a rose 18:51 in the right place knows what it says, heroes out of the 18:53 earth. That's a less populated area of the world. The waters 18:58 represent people's nations. Well, too, sometimes the earth 19:01 would represent a less populated place of the world 19:05 include number 3, it's depicted as a nother beast. That means 19:09 it's a new nation. United States broke away from England 19:12 and all that European routes and eventually became a new 19:15 nation. A separate power include number 4. It is a 19:19 Democratic republic. This second beast has 2 horns, 19:23 but there's no crowns on them. This crowns on the boards of 19:26 the first beast, there's 10 ones with crowns. There's no 19:29 crowns on the second be. So it's a it's a new Democrat, 19:33 a Democratic republic who number 5. And this is really 19:36 the one that takes us to the time in which we live. It says 19:41 there in verse 12 that it would exercise all the power of the 19:45 first beast before him and caused the earth. And then 19:48 that, well, they run to worship. The first beast who is 19:51 dead. The wound was heal. So we can say without 19:54 hesitation here, there's never been a time in history. As far 19:58 as we know when America has been so to completely able to 20:02 fulfill this aspect of the prophecy, its worldwide 20:05 dominance, its worldwide strength, though, that is 20:08 winning somewhat. And the number 6 notice in verse 11, 20:12 it's a lab like our now in Bible prophecy, especially here 20:16 in Revelation, 13 lab like symbolizes Jesus. The whole 20:20 book of revelation begins by identifying the lamb as Jesus 20:23 Christ, who was slain. So this talks about Christian 20:27 qualities, this new powers to be a power that had Christian 20:31 qualities, a nation that exuded from its foundation, its roots, 20:37 the principles of liberty and freedom, religious liberty and 20:40 freedom and civil Liberty and Freedom. Jesus Christ came to 20:44 set us free to restore a nice the freedom of choice according 20:48 to John 8.36. And then number 7, this is the final clue. 20:52 This power is going to change in character from a lamb to a 20:56 dragon. It's going to I have 2 was like a lamb, but it's going 20:59 to speak like a dragon. Of course, the nation's speaks to 21:03 its legislative body. And so this prediction of Bible 21:06 prophecy that the nation of America is going to us what 21:09 that once embraced religious freedom, freedom of speech, 21:13 freedom of assembly, it was now going to become a persecutor 21:17 specifically of God's commandment up people as we'll 21:21 see when we compare this was a revelation 12 for 17. So one 21:26 point that I think it's really important for our viewers right 21:29 now. Danny Rind you on 21:31 to to recognize as we go into this program, that's this. 21:36 The United States rose to power when there was another kingdom, 21:39 the papacy that was wholly Christian and control lead the 21:44 world with its Christianity and United States broke free from 21:48 that. We're not going to do that. But it also rose to power 21:51 when there was another kingdom. I e atheist, France that was 21:55 seeking to throw got off to be completely secular and have no 21:59 religious boundaries whatsoever. The United States 22:02 walked right between those 2 powers. It did not force people 22:06 to worship. God did not force Christianity, young people. 22:09 And at the same time it did not throw got off altogether. 22:12 That is the route that is the history that's the foundation 22:15 of this country. And tonight as we talk about, is it important 22:20 or is it about right for Christians to enforce morality? 22:23 We're going to have to walk right between those 2 extremes. 22:27 Just like our founding fathers did in 17. 76 and on came out. 22:32 >> Ryan, right before you do for those of you at home, 22:34 if you would like to e-mail the U.S. questions in said I think 22:38 we can do that should put it up on the screen. You can e-mail 22:41 your questions live at 3 ABN DOT TV and they'll bring them 22:46 out to us and event. We're going to try to get through as 22:49 much as we can. It may be awhile before we get to the 22:51 questions. But at least you'll be we're going to be first come 22:54 first served. We already have a few. So I would like you to do 22:57 is call in your questions. Your comments. Thank you, 23:00 James. That was very clear and very helpful. 23:03 >> Ryan, what do you want to add to that? I don't know what 23:06 that I mean. That was pretty much revelation 13 in like 15 23:10 minutes. I know. I mean, just to just to echo what he said, 23:13 I think it's a spot on the see this first beast going down and 23:17 17. 98 to see the second beast coming up around the same time. 23:21 There's no other nation that fits the biblical description 23:23 and that of the United States of America. It's when you get 23:26 into these latter chap letter versus of revelation, 13 more 23:29 specifically revelation 12 and on where you see the second 23:33 beast exercising all the authority of the first beast, 23:36 this this kingdom or this nation that was essentially set 23:39 up as a as one Johnson. He described as being on land like 23:43 Christ, like with Christ, like Principles, a crisis like 23:47 character, at least in the beginning begins to take on the 23:50 change over time, which would eventually begins to speak as a 23:53 track in which we've already mentioned. I find that very 23:57 interesting because I believe we're living in those times. 23:59 I believe that our nation in the within the past couple of 24:02 decades has begun to show through its legislation and 24:06 through the nature of it of the changing morals that are very 24:10 much shifting in a different direction. The spiritual 24:15 temperature of this nation is screaming Dragon. The devil is 24:18 is that he is working harder than ever before to set the 24:22 stage for the final that's Bible prophecy. 24:26 >> In 1984, I didn't know anything about television ad 24:30 saying on it and traveled and my daughter a nice to go. 24:32 But I would always say, Lord, where are we a 7th day 24:35 Adventist in the media should maybe the heads and not details 24:39 that we have an entire message. The 3 Angeles messages, we have 24:43 an end-times message for an end times people. Why are we out 24:47 there on television on radio worldwide getting this message 24:51 out? Always thus, you know, with that thought about that. 24:55 And the Lord and Press made us and November November of 1984, 25:00 went to build a television station. Now, this meant very 25:02 little to me at the time. I'm just now understanding 25:05 after almost 40 years later is why bring it up? But I want to 25:09 build a television station that will reach the world within and 25:13 diluted 3 angels messages. One would counteract a 25:17 counterfeit. I when I heard that, I said all I heard was 25:21 counteracted counterfeit. So at that time, I said, 25:24 well, we started going to church is we're going to build 25:27 this television station, reach the world. We're going to know 25:30 counteract the Jim and Tammy Baker. We're going to 25:33 counteract, you know, Jimmy Swaggart. We're going to 25:36 counteract ABN. We're going to give the truth about the 10 25:39 Commandments and the Sabbath. And I went about 3 or 4 weeks 25:42 to different churches. In one night. I had a dream and then 25:45 this train. I was out and Apple orchard and I was talking to 25:49 God. It didn't say it was just me and him and they zappos were 25:53 like none I've ever seen. They were this big around 25:56 beautiful red right there. Trees were so heavy laden that 26:00 they were hanging down like this. So I can just walk over 26:04 and pick all these apples. 26:06 So I said, Lord, what's this main 26:09 and what the Lord impress me? And I have to paraphrase, 26:12 because 26:13 the way that the best way I can I can ever say what God said 26:17 exactly. But but other words in my humanness, what he said to 26:20 me was your your mission is not to go counter at people who are 26:26 giving the gospel no matter what that person is like. 26:30 So and it took me way. What you mean? Because what happened is 26:34 he says my word will not return to a void. So I decided after 26:39 that if I hired an atheist actor to do nothing but read 26:43 the Bible, 24 7, there would be people watch it and come to 26:46 Jesus because it's not about the messenger. It's about the 26:49 message. So that taught me, OK, my job is not to go out now and 26:55 try to talk about these ministries. The ripe red 26:58 apples. The Lord presented to me represents people who have 27:02 already come off of drugs and alcohol who have already 27:06 accepted me. They general read, right? Apple is ready to be put 27:10 to give them the anti message, the 3 angels messages to the 27:14 world. So here I'm trying to fight people who because 27:18 they're given the word. Maybe not always correct that people 27:21 have been touched by blast by so now that part understood. 27:26 But all these years, one is given and diluted 3 Angeles 27:31 messages. One would counteract the counterfeit. Now, when you 27:34 look at all the churches and all the Christian churches, 27:37 Protestant church, Catholic churches, I can't think of any 27:40 other ones given the 3 Angeles messages as their focus moves. 27:44 So if it's a given and diluted 3 in those messages, that must 27:48 mean there's a diluted one, right? I mean, that's what it 27:52 means. But I do understand that at the time now have to. 27:56 >> Confess to out of the car might trade. I could argue with 27:59 you about to Sabbath. I could argue and I'm saying this, 28:02 argue what about we say our game. You say arguing aren't 28:05 haha out the Sabbath and nobody can argue about the state of 28:10 the day. And I could argue with you about these things. But to 28:13 as far as really knowing and understanding that new 28:16 revelation, I didn't at that time. 33 years old. So why 28:20 would the Lord impress me? So I knew it wasn't something 28:23 that I heard before because I didn't even know what it meant. 28:26 I want you to give an and diluted 3 inches messages 28:29 finally understanding because we're at the point in our 28:32 history that I'm saying that, you know, we've been looking in 28:37 and talking about all these other churches that are getting 28:40 away from the Commandments of God, teachers that are false 28:43 teachers and false preachers. And suddenly it's occurred to 28:45 me. We have those too. 28:49 Yeah. All right. We have those, too. So how can that be if we 28:54 know what's going on? So I want to get on to topic hair. 28:56 That's very, very controversial. But I got my my 29:00 strong man here to help us. We have a strong man here to 29:04 help the U.S.. But one of the things that's going around and 29:08 I've talked to a number of pastors about this, and it's 29:11 it's it's 29:12 I don't want to say popular, but it's being more and more 29:15 accepted is that there are people who are standing up and 29:19 they're saying that talking about first of all the and 29:23 we're going to talk about that tonight. What's this new thing 29:25 Project, 2020 white nationalist, the talk about now 29:30 they say nationalists, but when you really hear there's Chin 29:32 national. Well, yeah, but what I'm saying, what people write 29:35 me and say you're a white nationalist, you know, so well, 29:39 I'm a Christian. And, you know, they'll say you're a white 29:43 Christian nationalist them. But you fit the mold of a of a 29:46 Republican White Christian nationalists. You know, so and 29:51 you know, whatever else. 29:53 So I'm not really I can say tonight I can speak for you all 29:56 but invited me where independent. So we don't really 29:59 go with either side of the other. Do we have tendencies 30:01 certain things we agree with? Yes, there are certain to maybe 30:05 even on both sides. But there are some things we can talk 30:08 about later on, but where we are not on either side. So I 30:12 feel like we can set back and get a better picture because I 30:15 don't have an agenda. So when we're talking politics, I don't 30:19 have an agenda. But so you have people saying that what is 30:23 happening in America as I even saw the other night on Facebook 30:27 guy was riding the said it's going to be the white a 30:31 nationalist Republicans and it's going to be Donald Trump 30:35 who brings in the national Sunday low. I believe he's 30:38 going to get back in and he's going to bring about a national 30:40 Sunday on and this. Is that an honest? So I'm saying now, 30:44 how in the world do we get that? We think we're so smart 30:47 that we know prophecy so well, we can even name names of who's 30:50 going to bring in a national Sunday law. So for my little 30:53 bit of reading, I'm not a scholar by any means, but it 30:56 says the United States of America. I didn't say it said 30:59 the Democrat going to bring in, you know, this and a lot. 31:02 I don't see this as Republicans are bringing in. I think it's 31:06 that horn represents the United States of America. So that 31:10 would seem to me that it would be the country as a whole, 31:14 that there will be some compromises some going forward. 31:17 But what I want to talk about some throw a bunch out. You've 31:20 got and then you run with it. You jump in when you want. 31:23 But one of the things that I'm hearing is and he's very 31:26 popular right now that has America, we call it and it came 31:31 out of the earth that Spake as a dragon that the teaching is 31:35 that is mince. It's always spoke as a dragon because of 31:39 slavery. It's always focus the dragon. 31:42 And yet I don't find that to be true. And I look back and we 31:45 use sometimes that Venice, some of you are. But we look back at 31:49 some of our prophetic what we believe is proved prophetic 31:52 information given to us. And I went back and look and 31:54 see what Ellen might says about it. And she says this is the 31:57 most to the blast country and, you know, on Earth. And I think 32:01 most of us know that. So I think we're heading into and 32:06 you said a few minutes ago, brother Ryan, we see signs of a 32:10 dragon coming but to look back. And so somebody said you're 32:14 nationalist as well. I am. I looked up to in the 32:17 dictionary to see what it says. It's somebody who support your 32:21 country. So I grew up in America. So if I watched 32:25 Americans play basketball in the Olympics, I'm rooting for 32:28 the Americans. When we were at war, I'm rooting for the 32:30 Americans. So if that's nationalist, I am. If they've 32:33 gotten country and family of that wants to put me somewhere 32:36 on some side of politics, you can do that if you want to. 32:39 But but that's that's not where I am. But what I'm saying and 32:42 it is it very popular right now. And I'll tell you why I I 32:47 think we have to talk about it and the interesting to see what 32:50 you guys say. But when you leave and you're taught that 32:54 America's always spoken as the dragon and you're a minority 32:58 and it's over slavery, then you have no respect for our 33:01 country. You have no type of the other words. Everything is 33:06 bad about this country and nothing. You can do it ever 33:09 satisfied because this has always been the devils country 33:12 cause. He's always been in charge of it when I believe 33:15 that's a lie. And I think that that is will cause division 33:20 within the church. And so I would like to hear you guys 33:22 talk about that because you mentioned the other day. 33:25 It's not really about race, but yet we're making it race. 33:30 Current current culture and politics is what's causing this 33:34 division. But and have you guys heard that people are talking 33:37 about that? So it up. I would like to hear what each of you 33:41 think about when it says in its focus, the dragon, how when and 33:45 where will this happen and how do we know when it happened? 33:49 >> Well, for sure, we are divided over race, right? 33:52 And I know from my own experience that this country 33:56 has shapes my history. I was born on Camp Pendleton, a 34:02 United States Marine Corps base. My mom was white. My dad 34:05 was black. N****** is what it says on my birth certificate in 34:08 and 10 months of age. My mom took me to England because she 34:11 didn't want to me to be raised in this country because she 34:14 felt like the this is before Martin Luther King and the 34:18 freedoms of the 60 Late 60's. And so she raised me there. 34:22 And I remember as a young man was about 11 years old, we came 34:25 back to America and at 69 the choice between going back to 34:29 England with my mother or was she moved back to England or 34:33 staying here? And it was such a simple choice. And it, you 34:37 know, with all that we have gone through as a family 34:39 because my dad and mom would never be able were never able 34:42 to stay together because he was black and she was white. 34:45 There was no question in my mind that America was the best 34:48 place to live and I never regretted. That decision was 34:51 places. Liberty was a place of freedom. Yes, there was racism. 34:54 Yes, that would difficulties. There were things that we need 34:57 to work through as a nation and you're going to find that in 35:00 every nation. But the principles, the foundational 35:02 principles of liberty and freedom or intact, right. 35:06 And that's what allowed me to prosper in this country. 35:09 Those freedoms, those principles. 35:11 >> That. 35:12 >> Our stab lish in this prophecy in revelation chapter 35:15 13 U.S. principles of liberty and freedom. So I know as a 35:19 minority, I know as someone who is from a mixture race that 35:24 that is half black and half white. I know that America is a 35:27 great place to live even in relation to Europe. It's a 35:31 great place to live. I think that when you look at 35:34 revelation Chapter 13, what you're looking at is a 35:37 progression from where we were as a nation. And of course, 35:40 we started in 17. 76. It took us 8 years to get independents. 35:43 And then we had to fight again in 18, 12 in 18. 0, 7, The 35:47 British did away with slavery with will will before we will 35:50 before us. And but we had a strong contention in the south 35:54 that was against it. But, you know, coming in 18, 63, when we 35:58 did side Emancipation Proclamation and hundreds of 36:01 thousands of white people died to free the slaves. We have 36:05 continued to progress from there. When you looking at 36:07 racism, a lot of it happens to be in certain areas of the 36:11 United States because those people didn't want to give up 36:14 the slave trade like the northern half of United States 36:17 did. And as you move further and further gets better and 36:20 better and this more and more freedom and liberty coming out 36:23 of the principles of the foundation of this country. 36:26 And as soon as you start doing with those principles and those 36:29 those foundational liberties that have been given us freedom 36:32 of speech, freedom of assembly, you know, freedom to 2, 2 to 36:36 worship as we want. We're not worship at all. You begin to 36:40 speak like a dragon. And that's exactly what we can see. 36:43 You know, right mentioned earlier, we're seeing that that 36:46 we're hearing a voice to drag coming in with the elimination 36:49 of these freedoms and a lot of these women, a lot of this 36:51 eliminations coming unfortunately. 36:53 >> Under that under the 36:56 >> hospice s of racism when it's not racism at all, it 36:59 might be racism in a sense that it's racism against white 37:02 people. Unfortunately, that's what we see developing now. 37:05 And I know we're getting some some hot buttons here. This is 37:08 what you're seeing it at right now. 37:11 >> No people be mad at me if I say that. So go ahead. Haha, 37:15 I think I said get away with the ice. I think you place. 37:19 >> In one sense. So I feel bad that as a young person, I was 37:24 divided between black and white. But when I became a 37:27 Christian, all that went away, I was proud to be black and I 37:30 was proud to be white. I was proud of my mother. I was proud 37:33 of my father. I was a Christian. Now I have to hide 37:36 any of that. Because in Christ, we're all the same. Doesn't 37:39 matter for J** or gentile. This a matter for slave or 37:43 free. It doesn't matter from it, male or female. We're all 37:46 the same in Christ. So it's really hard, I think almost 37:50 overwhelming for me to see this division taking place within 37:53 our church, OK, if it's in the world, but within our church. 37:57 Yeah, it's just not acceptable to to make to make these. 38:01 >> Final events of Bible prophecy special. What we're 38:03 reading him Revelation, 11 revolution, 13 versus 11 and 38:07 onward to try to make this a race issue is just incredible 38:12 to me when we're not denying this and I want to make this 38:16 very clear as a history major in college, I had to write a 38:18 many a paper in and give them any a debate topic on on the 38:23 the the history of the United States. And I want to just make 38:26 this very clear as an American citizen, I love my country. 38:30 I'm going to an American through and through and I'm 38:31 proud to be an American. I'm not proud of some of that 38:34 history. I'm just not what I look back at some of those, 38:37 though, that when I read about 38:39 the extreme cases of slavery that went on for a large chunk 38:45 of the early part of this, this nation's history, that's a dark 38:49 time that I'm not proud of his an American, but nonetheless 38:54 praise the lord. We've we've we've grown out of that. 38:57 We've come out of that things. 38:58 >> Have changed. In fact, it's interesting that people think 39:02 it can be said that there's more freedom in this country 39:04 there has been before. But what's interesting is that many 39:07 people want to go back and say, well, there, you know, we say 39:09 we're Christian nation, but then they're slavery. There's 39:11 all these bad things that we allowed these people to claim 39:13 to be Christian allowed in this nation. But wouldn't what's 39:16 interesting is there was a sense again, there might have 39:19 been up flawed view of way to carry that that Christianity 39:22 out. But there was a very solid crisis like Christian 39:26 Foundation and morals that was very much established in this 39:29 nation. It's interesting that the morph freedom that has been 39:33 opened up for people, 39:35 the morals have went the opposite direction. And because 39:38 when you give freedom where there is true freedom, there's 39:41 that involves risk risk of people not taking that 39:45 responsibility of the freedom. They've been given to exercise 39:48 it in such a way that they have the freedom to choose to serve 39:52 God or to not serve. Got to to do that, which is right or to 39:54 not do that. That which is right. What's interesting to 39:57 this is me or what would what Sichuan is this 40:00 when you get in revelation 13, look at these 2 horns. I want 40:03 to read something from spread across the volume for page 27 40:06 here. It says the action is to 77 spread across the volume for 40:10 pitch to 77. She says that she's in the lab like horns, 40:13 emblems of innocence and gentleness well represented the 40:17 character of our government K as expressed in its 2 40:21 fundamental principles, Republicanism and 40:24 Protestantism. Sort of those 2 would represent the 2 40:27 principles on which this nation was built. Republicanism and 40:30 promised is a male. Don't be don't be taken by taking off by 40:34 the word Republicanism. It's all talk about the Republican 40:36 Party talking about the remember. I pledge allegiance 40:39 to the flag of the United States of America and to the 40:42 Republic for which it stands. What's a Republican? Our nation 40:45 was this. Where are the the nature of our a government was 40:49 a Democratic, a process that was built upon a Republican, 40:54 the Republican, meaning it's giving the power to the people. 40:56 So when you go over to Europe during the dark ages, it was 40:59 the papacy that was in forcing religion on people and 41:04 oppressing people. Anna Faris takeaway with religion to the 41:07 point to again, more than 50 million people over a period 41:10 of time, the dark ages parish because of an enforcement, 41:13 a dragon likened forsman religion. This new mission to 41:17 comes up out of the earth. Now that it's created the rise 41:20 up out of the earth and its established off the set of fit. 41:23 First of that beast over the sea, they rise step out of the 41:27 sea among the peoples among the nations of the multitude and 41:29 NASA's this nation establishes would want to be like that. 41:32 We want to we want to establish a nation that's built up on a 41:35 republicanism which is giving the power now to the people not 41:39 to a dictatorship or a few, you know, elite people that's going 41:42 to misuse and abuse their power. It put the power of the 41:45 people, but the power in the people's hands and to bring 41:48 about freedom of religion which brought about the Protestant 41:51 movement. Now, here's what's interesting. 41:54 Let's fast forward when you give the people power 41:59 now. And that's a great thing. But if those people that are 42:02 given the power are not now living, according to those 42:07 biblical principles as was established in the beginning, 42:10 but they fall away from it. They push religion out. They 42:13 push Christ out. They push the commandments out. Now the 42:16 nature of the spiritual, the character of the body of people 42:21 is now going to tell their 42:23 >> their their leaders, their their legislators. 42:27 >> How to do what a pass and what to do. That's what we're 42:30 seeing here in terms of this, this this conversation of 42:32 Christian nationalism and this whole conversation of now being 42:36 just the second least speaking as the first dragon or 42:40 exercising all the authority. What we're seeing is the power 42:43 of the people who have now pushed religion now who have 42:45 pushed Christ out, who are now basically abandoning the law of 42:49 God. This nation that once was lamb like it's starting to 42:53 speak like a beast. It's coming from the power of the people 42:56 that is pressing their legislators to now start pass 42:59 laws that go against got more as we go again, Scott 43:02 standards. So now we're in the speak scenario where it's like, 43:06 wait a second. The church is now being affected. That's what 43:09 we're talking about it. What point does the church allow 43:12 poacher to dictate its principles and where they 43:15 stand? When you allow the culture of the people who are 43:18 not reflecting the character of the lamb, but now the character 43:21 of the dragon telling their legislators to pass laws to fly 43:24 in the face of God's commands and in and you're allowing that 43:28 to happen. And the church is now being oppressed and been 43:31 oppressed, but being in a influenced strongly by the 43:34 culture. Now we have to speak up and say, wait a second, 43:37 we hatched separation of church and state, but now it seems 43:39 like we're allowing the culture to calm moving in slowly like a 43:44 almost like a cancer, like like a virus. It's coming in slowly 43:48 and it's starting to slowly. But surely this this dragon 43:53 like mentality is bleeding into the church to have people 43:56 compromising the plain truth of God's word and a free country 44:01 more than ever before. 44:02 >> What more freedoms more? The more I love it. I want to 44:04 go back to well, you said it spoke to, you know, as a dragon 44:10 and I look at this, America's journey with slavery with race 44:16 as a Christian. 44:18 Let's say that I'm not a Christian, but today have 44:21 become Christian. I'm still going to have some of the 44:23 things in my life. But as I go farther and farther in my 44:27 Christian walk become 44:30 become more like Christ. Well, when it came to slavery, 44:33 people's like, OK, finally, we're getting it after, you 44:36 know, so many years, but has taken a tremendous out. But 44:39 it's not a stand in your face and just rejected because what 44:43 God doesn't, you know, sanctification, you know, 44:47 it is fine that's working on the lifetime and God bless this 44:50 nation. But if we had stood up in the face and said, forget 44:54 it, and the South one, no slavery is here. I think God 44:57 would withdraw his blessings, but he didn't because we've 45:01 continued to move on. So now for many years, you've got, 45:06 you know, now you've got this limelight beast with that soft 45:11 nature that, you know, good nature with all the Christian 45:14 principles. But then people want to say, and these same 45:19 people that I've been listening to this talking about, well, 45:22 slavery is, you know, it's always United States spoken as 45:26 a as a dragon. 45:27 Those same people are saying, well, what's happening is it's 45:31 going to be the Christian, right? You know, who brings the 45:34 Nationals Sunday lull. And as again, as I mentioned, some of 45:38 them even name names. And so there 45:42 headed this way, it has to be. So if people disagree, you 45:47 know, people get really upset because you've got people now 45:50 on the other side said, wait a minute, the left is on Godly, 45:53 the goddess and the right do so in general, it seems to me what 45:58 happened is that the country, you know what? Basically, 46:02 as you said, Christian, though, we had lots of false and 46:04 failures, but as things really begin to go to pot, so to 46:08 speak, maybe literally back in the 60's 70's, then the 46:13 Christian leadership said we've got to stop this. Something's 46:16 got to happen. So I'm old enough. And some of you are 46:19 too, to remember Jerry Falwell and the mayor and Moral 46:22 majority. So Hudson, millions of people to follow him. 46:27 We have got to make America get it back to a Christian nation. 46:31 So we are going to legislate laws, including a Sabbath rest, 46:36 which team it was a Sunday rest. Then there came Pat 46:40 Robertson. So this is probably late 80's. So people said to 46:43 me, man, you got some infants are just glad we got to a 46:47 Christian. You know, I could say a white Christian since 46:49 everybody is making a race thing but along. So you we've 46:52 got a Christian, somebody you should really night and this 46:56 guy is going for run for president. And I think 3 ABN, 47:00 you all ought to stand behind that. You have been a stand 47:02 behind it. And I was a bad guy because I said no, 47:06 I will not support either one of those guys. Now I support 47:09 what they do in getting the gospel. But what they're 47:12 wanting to do is they're wanting to turn this country 47:16 into that speaking like a dragon, right, because they 47:18 want to legislate. So if I understand it, right, what 47:22 really makes will show that the country is speaking as a dragon 47:26 is when they begin to legislate laws that are anti. 47:29 >> God's law. And on that same point, you know, we brought up 47:33 the race issue earlier and to return to that still linger too 47:36 long. But it will make mention it's interesting that, you 47:39 know, I'm out, I'm out there preaching and had many 47:40 conversations, many people in the field. And it's amazing to 47:43 me the people that usually a crying this, you know, we're 47:45 we're we're we spoke as a dragon and its all making it a 47:48 race issue. And then and again, I'm not denying that there's 47:50 racism in this country, both home side. 47:53 >> But it wasn't in every other country. Yeah, there was 47:55 slavery. And I think Jay Passages brought this up 47:57 earlier. The United States of America is not the only country 48:00 with a history of slavery. There are dozens and dozens and 48:03 dozens of other countries avenue. We have to leave Africa 48:07 reinflate the old to yeah. And so again, it we just put 48:10 the spotlight on America and of course, because rightly so in 48:13 this sense because we're talking about Michael prophecy. 48:15 What's interesting is that the the the the the nature of these 48:19 people that are coming out in the ports that they're making 48:22 in trying to say that we can't take this one side because it 48:26 seems to be about white nationalism and white 48:27 supremacy. And these are the same individuals that tend to 48:31 choose a side that are legislating laws. The fly in 48:34 the face of got commitments. In other words, people to 48:37 support abortion people to some more port homosexuality and all 48:40 these other things. It has an independent which is very clear 48:43 examples. There's probably somebody right now. It's like 48:45 all right. They must be Republican. I hate politics, 48:48 not despise politics. I've said it from the beginning of time. 48:51 I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. I'm a I'm a Christ. 48:54 A publican are or crushed a crack about red state like 48:57 that. I'm a Bible-believing Christian. I don't I do not get 49:01 on the bandwagon of one or the other. At the end of the day, 49:03 I'm all about the Bible. At the end of the day, I'm all 49:06 about making sure that we as a people in this church are 49:09 sticking it hearing too of the sea. If the lord of not getting 49:12 caught up in these cultural pressures that are causing us 49:16 to choose sides and then choosing the side. But what's 49:19 happening is littered the spread of the north, the spirit 49:21 of south. When you get over to Daniel 11, I know Pastor Pastor 49:25 Rafferty problem. I speak a little bit on this before we 49:27 end tonight. When you get over to Daniel 11, there's this king 49:30 of the north is king of the south, the spirit of the north, 49:32 the spirit of stuff. You have basically a pa state 49:35 Christianity versus atheism and the devils working both sides. 49:38 Absolute demolition work at both sides and people think a 49:41 lot. I'm a right what right wing person because this is the 49:44 what is the party that Jesus what you do? There's probably a 49:47 little bit right wing. There's issues of the Pentagon and that 49:50 the Devils all up and then and then for sure, when you get to 49:53 the left, you see the devil and that Dotson in this one to make 49:55 that very clear, we're not here to push politics are one side 49:58 of the other hand, but to get back to the Bible, we cannot 50:01 get to the point where we make it issues about certain things 50:04 that cause us to choose a side that fall to the flies in the 50:07 face of God's commands and got when we're not at that point. 50:11 Absolutely. 50:12 >> Absolutely true. And I and so I have a different 50:16 perspective on race because I I grew up during the civil rights 50:20 era. So I you know, not that old honey. 50:25 >> Okay. That's a really good. And so. 50:32 >> I am. So I lived in Alabama for while I was from New York 50:36 originally and we moved to Alabama in 1916 because my dad 50:40 went back to what back-to-school Oakland 50:43 and I went to Huntsville and I went into the town and 50:49 I just experienced segregation. So I saw colored and white 50:55 fountains and my mother who was very fair, could go into a 50:59 restaurant. She bring food out to us because we couldn't go 51:01 in. So I I saw that, 51:04 however, 51:06 I've seen to how we've grown and I'm really thankful. 51:10 I love America. I'm very thankful to be an American. 51:13 I see the issues that we have internally, 51:18 you know, culturally we have external and internal issues. 51:22 So we can't say that. You know, I think we make so much of race 51:28 so much. It's just we have 51:30 more melanin. It's a it's a we make such a big deal was. 51:36 >> Yeah, it's different shades. Yeah, you know, have that much. 51:41 >> Well, you know, plant. But we we all we all have like 51:45 that. 51:46 We have cultural similarities and some cultural differences, 51:50 but we should be Christians first to actually be that, 51:54 you know, when I think of you as my husband, I don't think my 51:56 wife husband and you are my husband because race is race. 52:01 We make such a big deal out of it 52:04 and we don't really need to especially as Christians. 52:07 That is not to negate hear me, please, because people will be 52:11 saying all she is she's denying what's going on. Really not. 52:16 We have again internal issues and external issues. The laws 52:22 in this country are really well written now, 2 for equality. 52:27 The execution of those lost sometimes 52:30 faulty. So, you know, we do. We do have issues again 52:34 internally and externally, but we need to be Christians first, 52:38 head of p***** me about this with President Obama's second 52:43 term because the first term I volunteered for his campaign 2, 52:48 big-time Democrat. I was well, 52:51 I was an Obama supporter because I really had never been 52:55 involved with politics than with C and it was historical. 52:59 And I was so happy to see. I really never thought 53:05 we would in my lifetime. We have black president, 53:08 but we did and that it has. 53:10 >> I was like I'm a white guy. I was excited that I love this 53:12 year is one of the yeah. He's way spoken. Man is a fresh 53:17 new perspective. Yes, it was excited that it was exciting 53:21 until we got further him until the second time. Then for the 53:25 second term. I really. 53:29 >> The Lord that was me was that use his platform was well, 53:33 he was really pushing the same the same sex marriage and 53:38 second term, the second time in the first term he wasn't yeah. 53:44 At the first time I would have supported it. But but the for 53:47 the second term, I could not support 53:50 and I couldn't vote at all. And I am I having come out of 53:55 the 60's. I'm a big proponent of voted because people have 53:58 died so that we could voter. So I'm a big proponent of 54:02 owning but 54:03 has a crisp. What comes first. We have to ask ourselves 54:07 whether it's on the right on the left. Is our culture come 54:11 first or does God come first the word come first and it said 54:16 sometimes it causes you to have to make a really big decision. 54:20 >> Absolutely. I'm all about civil rights freedoms rights 54:25 given to each and every person. Absolutely. We should never 54:28 take away free will. 54:29 But those 54:31 the praising in the pushing and the the the the 54:36 really preaching for those freedoms at the expense of the 54:39 morals of God's law. Why or you have to turn a blind eye. 54:44 2 of us say of the Lord of the Rings down Dacian a law of 54:48 God's government to get a freedom over here for a an 54:52 issue that is not to be taken lightly. Don't take it lightly. 54:55 But when you do it that expense, that's when you have 54:57 any. That's right. And yes, we can. We can proclaim these 55:00 freedoms but never at the expense of cots ball. 55:03 >> And back as I was saying and in the late 80's and when you 55:07 had the Falwells and robbers and they seem like nice guys, 55:10 they were doing a lot of work, people coming to the Lord, 55:12 but I could not support them. And I had Christians upset at 55:16 me and say you should do this. I said no, because they want 55:19 and their intention is to break down the wall of separation of 55:24 church and state because they want to legislate morality and 55:28 the church should not. And that they're going to influence the 55:31 government to legislate. And you know that our laws. 55:35 And so there's there's no way they should be able to do that. 55:39 Other words, it, which I really knew what was going to be it 55:42 was going to be the 4th commandment is going to be not 55:45 the last 6 commandment that is going to be the first for which 55:48 belong to got. And you know, we can we can legislate. We'll 55:51 talk about that a little bit. And we do every civilized 55:54 nation. The literally I think supports the commandments the 55:59 last 6 and student Matt. Otherwise I go kill you. 56:03 I go stale because somebody just wrote me earlier and said, 56:05 well, no country should ever know Christian ever before a 56:09 country whose legislating more laws. So I don't want to live 56:14 and what does a riad? They're going to take everything you've 56:18 got. They can take your life, you live and take everything 56:21 else. 56:23 >> And so now there are some countries that don't legislate 56:25 those last 2 commandments. Yeah, people can walk into your 56:28 home and still and taking meetings and all that and never 56:30 be prosecuted for and what we're going to have to break in 56:34 just a moment. 56:35 >> But I want to come back and continue because I felt like 56:39 that I could just 2025 people are preaching. This is going to 56:43 be at this is us and a lot we have to keep in mind, we've 56:46 been preaching this been told about it, warned about it 56:49 probably for 140 years. It hasn't happened. But all along 56:53 there's growth all along daughters warning his people to 56:57 watch what's happening. So we can't get so caught up on one 57:01 side or the other. And we'll talk about that a little bit 57:04 more. But in my case I have seen and I know that a 57:07 Christian national and so to speak, I can do more to say the 57:11 word they're they're they're some of those are we're going 57:14 to take over by force. If we have to know. Do you think I 57:18 support that is a Christian? You know, I don't care if day 57:21 have all of the names they call me white Republican, my, 57:25 you know, whatever, whatever they want to call me, no, 57:28 I don't identify with somebody who's trying to force people 57:33 against the goal of the laws have got. Now we've got to come 57:36 back. We'll talk about the other side is right and just a 57:39 moment or what's happening there and how it fits into. 57:42 And so if you don't hear that sign, you should 57:45 >> not come back. And then we've got to get the whole 57:47 truth about a minute 57:49 [MUSIC] 57:54 [MUSIC] |
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