Urban Report

Health Seminars Inc.

Three Angels Broadcasting Network

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Participants: Yvonne Lewis (Host), Curtis & Paula Eakins

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Program Code: UBR000019


00:01 Have you ever found yourself thinking, "I want to get healthy
00:03 but I just don't know where to start?"
00:05 Well stay tuned and find out how to have a happier,
00:08 healthier, more abundant life...
00:11 My name is Yvonne Lewis and you're watching
00:14 Urban Report...
00:36 Hello and welcome to Urban Report...
00:40 Today guests are no strangers to 3ABN...
00:43 they're the hosts of "Abundant Living"
00:45 shown daily on 3ABN and Dare to Dream...
00:48 Curtis Eakins, N.D. and his lovely wife,
00:52 Nutritionist, Paula Eakins...
00:54 Welcome to Urban Report... yeah...
00:55 So glad... so glad...
00:57 And thank you for inviting us... yeah...
01:00 Thanks for the invitation...
01:01 Well, you're welcome, Curtis...
01:03 Okay, so, you guys have been at 3ABN for how long?
01:08 15 years... about 15 years... yeah...
01:11 15 years... Wow! How did you first get here?
01:14 By van...
01:16 No, that's not what I'm talking about...
01:18 Believe it or not, Yvonne, there was some friends of ours
01:21 in Huntsville... they saw us doing different
01:23 programs for UAH and Oakwood College
01:26 and they kept saying, "You guys actually need to
01:28 just be somewhere real... on television or something
01:30 like that... " and someone mentioned to us
01:32 about the "Flagship Program" the Thursday Night Program
01:34 on 3ABN... where they were always looking
01:37 for individuals making a difference
01:39 in their Community... and although this had happened
01:42 3 to 4 years prior to that... every time I would see this
01:44 one woman... she would say, "Have you sent it in yet...
01:47 have you sent anything in yet?" and I would say, "No"
01:50 and so, finally, we sent in a DVD...
01:52 That we had... locally there... in Huntsville...
01:55 we sent in the tape there... didn't think too much of it,
01:57 and maybe about 6 months later we heard from...
02:00 from Dee Hilderbrand... Dee Hilderbrand our precious Dee
02:04 Yes... she called on the phone and when she called...
02:07 I thought it was someone playing around...
02:09 she said, "Hi, this is Dee Hilderbrand
02:11 from Three Angels Broadcasting Network...
02:13 and I said, "Is this my girlfriend playing with me?"
02:15 and she was so serious... she said,
02:18 "No, this is Dee Hilderbrand from 3ABN... "
02:20 so we talked for a few minutes, and then she said,
02:25 "I need for you to come on in and do the 'Flagship Program'"
02:27 and at that time... also... "Food for Thought"
02:30 Okay... And, it was late...
02:33 at the end of the year almost... when she started talking to us
02:36 and as she began asking about dates... this date, that date...
02:39 we already were booked until the end of the year...
02:41 and so finally the Holy Spirit said,
02:43 "Just tell her when you can come"
02:44 and I said, "Ms. Hilderbrand... we can come in 1997...
02:50 this is when we'd be coming up here... 1997...
02:52 and we were going to be able to come on March the 13th...
02:55 She said, "I don' even have a calendar for next year... "
02:57 I said, "Good, that means... it's open
02:59 and so we can come... "
03:00 and then what happened after we got here?
03:03 We came up here and did four other "Food for Thought" Series
03:06 okay... then we did a two-hour live 3ABN... "The Flagshow"
03:09 and we were supposed to be doing...
03:11 two hours of just talking... but one of the photographers
03:16 Videographer at that time...
03:18 camera crew said... what they need to do is...
03:21 one hour talking and the other hour... cooking...
03:23 Well, now, we just finished doing 64 recipes...
03:26 in two or three days...
03:28 Wow! are you serious?
03:30 For the "Food for Thought" series... earlier that week...
03:32 so my wife didn't want to look at another recipe...
03:35 another pot... or spoon... and he said,
03:39 "I'll go shopping for you... I'll do anything...
03:41 you got to go in the kitchen, you got to cook... "
03:43 "I'll do it all... I'll do it all for you... "
03:44 but it didn't have to happen,
03:46 after we really just kind of thought about it...
03:47 Curtis said, "What are the quickest recipes
03:49 that you actually have?"
03:50 something easy, something quick and believe it or not
03:53 that was the very first time that Danny had ever
03:56 gone into the kitchen...
03:57 we brought him in the kitchen with us...
03:59 You got him to come to the kitchen?
04:01 That kitchen was maybe... less than 10 years old I believe
04:06 Okay... wow... He was in there...
04:08 and we did it live... and he was in the kitchen...
04:11 Great... So, it was wonderful...
04:12 then after that show... the phone rang off the hook
04:15 we were told and then after that...
04:17 Dee Hilderbrand said, "We want to offer you
04:20 your own television series... " Wow... praise the Lord...
04:24 And in six months of shows,
04:26 26 titles...
04:28 I looked at my wife... and she said,
04:29 "Honey, do we know 26 titles and shows?"
04:32 I mean, we'd been doing things in the Community...
04:34 but to list all 26... Yes...
04:37 so, 26 shows meant
04:38 6 months of taping...
04:40 Yes... and that's how long it would go
04:42 and I thought to myself... "We need to check in with the
04:45 Father on this... I mean... that's a long time...
04:47 that's a lot to do... "
04:48 so, we wanted to go back and pray and ask the Lord,
04:51 "Is this what He wants for us" Hmmm... hmmm...
04:52 because we really believe in letting God do
04:54 what He does best...
04:55 Yes... for sure... So, we went back to our room
04:57 and we said, "We're going to pray about it
04:59 we'll go to sleep, we'll wake up in the morning...
05:00 and give you an answer... "
05:01 And so, we went back to our room...
05:03 we had prayer... we asked the Lord,
05:05 if this this what he wants... that He would open a door...
05:07 we said, "26 shows... I don't know if we know
05:10 the titles of 26 shows... "
05:11 And so the next morning... we sat up in the bed
05:14 and the Holy Spirit just... the shows just kept running off
05:18 our minds... up to about 32 shows...
05:20 I mean... just one by one...
05:22 So, we called back over... and told Dee,
05:24 "Okay, we're open... " and she said...
05:26 "I'll stage it in six months... way to go?"
05:28 That's great...
05:30 Fifteen years ago... so we just praise God for that
05:32 this is just a blessing and... I can't tell you how many
05:35 phone calls, e- mails, letters...
05:38 we get boxes of letters... and lives have been touched
05:41 and we just praise God for the opportunity...
05:43 Yes... yes... amen... now, what would get you
05:46 involved in this health path in the first place?
05:48 Okay, there are two separate stories...
05:50 Honey, let's go with your version first...
05:52 Well, actually, Yvonne... I mean...
05:56 I was not born and raised in the Adventist Church...
05:58 and so, I lived in Philadelphia, and was one of 10 children...
06:01 and so, basically... everything that wasn't
06:04 nailed down to the floor... we ate... that's what I say
06:07 I barbequed and steamed and baked,
06:08 whatever you had to do... and so I would never have
06:11 guessed that anything like vegetarianism
06:13 would be even in my mind...
06:14 we didn't even have vegetables when we were growing up...
06:16 Yeah... and so... as we began...
06:18 as I began... after marriage and taking care of the children
06:22 and stuff... and then... we were in a Church
06:24 where they kept talking about the Health Message...
06:26 and once I became a Seventh-day Adventist...
06:28 so, I went to this class... in our Church...
06:31 our Pastor's wife was teaching it
06:32 and when I got in the class... she was talking all about
06:35 the relationship in the family,
06:37 the Father is the priest of the home...
06:39 and he's the one who is supposed to raise the family...
06:40 in the fear and love of God...
06:42 that sounded really good, you know...
06:44 and I said, "Good, great, great, he's got that... "
06:46 Yeah... and then she said,
06:47 "But then the mother... the mother is the gatekeeper"
06:50 Oh come on now...
06:51 Oh, the Gatekeeper... which means
06:52 that she has the ability to either make or break her family
06:56 by the things she's actually feeding them...
06:58 Oh yes... and I said,
06:59 "As if I didn't have enough responsibilities...
07:01 now I got this whole thing about being a gatekeeper... "
07:04 Along with everything else, I'm being a gatekeeper!"
07:06 after all the other stuff I'm doing, you know...
07:07 and I started thinking about my children
07:10 and I wanted to make sure that they were going to be okay
07:14 and so... then I began... actually changing
07:16 recipes out... I remember... the first...
07:18 after I finished the first class...
07:19 we got in that room and I was making these burgers up
07:22 Yvonne, it was not good... Oh, what did you do... tell us
07:24 I got these burgers together they had, at that time,
07:26 these gran-burgers out... where you put this
07:27 gran-burger granules into a bowl and add hot water to it...
07:31 and we not supposed to add any eggs to it...
07:34 or anything like that, and so, I went and got those
07:36 burgers together... I got that stuff,
07:38 you have the water and everything...
07:39 and I scooped it up and I put it into a skillet...
07:42 and every single gran-burger ran to the side of the thing,
07:45 I got the spatula, I pushed it back together
07:47 and I ran back out of there and then I started crying...
07:50 I called my girlfriend up because we were going to class
07:52 together... and I said, "This is not working
07:54 I don't know why I'm doing this, this is so crazy,"
07:56 she said, "Paula, let's just keep praying,
07:58 ask the Lord to help us out... " and over a period of time,
08:01 I began to just work on these recipes...
08:04 Hmmm...
08:05 and my pastor... was so open...
08:07 one day I walked up to him and I said,
08:08 "Pastor, I want to do some cooking classes... "
08:10 he said, "Okay... "
08:11 and I said, "I want to do it right here in Church... "
08:13 he said, "Okay" and I said,
08:15 "Well, and I need food and stuff... "
08:17 and he said, "fine... " Elder Mendinghall...
08:19 Elder Ezra Mendinghall... yes... yes...
08:21 he's just a very calm personality...
08:23 and so we started classes in the Church...
08:26 and I was Okay for a while... teaching...
08:29 but then people started asking me stuff about
08:31 anatomy and physiology... what happens inside the body,
08:34 I didn't have that knowledge base...
08:35 I only had that cooking thing going on...
08:37 Come on... come on now...
08:38 And I just kept saying... to myself... you know...
08:40 anatomy, physiology... how am I going to work that out...
08:43 I would go home and try to study it...
08:44 what's the difference between salt and sodium...
08:46 is it the same word? Hmmm... hmmm...
08:48 and I prayed... and I talked to the Lord about it
08:51 and decided to go to School... Amen...
08:53 so I had been in Church a while...
08:55 and then, I decided to take classes...
08:57 in this whole area... and I'm telling you...
08:59 I cannot tell you... I love nutrition and cooking
09:02 so much... I was on the front row...
09:04 before the teacher came to class...
09:06 I was up there in the front...
09:07 You're a woman after my own heart...
09:08 I never expected that, I was so excited, you know,
09:11 You know why... because if you don't know something...
09:17 you go and learn about it... duh...
09:20 if you don't know... there are all kinds of things
09:23 available now... classes and opportunities
09:25 we just have to find out where they are...
09:28 and take advantage of it... so you are...
09:30 just like one of our Dare to Dream poster girls...
09:34 "I'm a poster girl now... " Because, you know,
09:37 you didn't know know... so you went back to School
09:39 that's a wonderful thing, okay... so... go ahead...
09:42 well I was, of course, a little bit more mature
09:44 than most of the students at that particular time...
09:46 That's okay, it's never too old you're never to old to learn...
09:49 But then I had to do anatomy, physiology... bio-chemistry...
09:53 micro-biology... I'm like...
09:54 Okay... maybe I'm in the wrong field...
09:57 What have I gotten myself into?
09:59 But believe it or not... there was a woman in the class
10:01 that was much older... and she was there...
10:03 and she was kind of... like my encouragement...
10:05 I figured... if she can go to school...
10:07 and she was a lot older than I was...
10:08 then, I'm going to just hang on in here...
10:10 but God is awesome... because He helped me get through
10:13 each one... the Lord is good because the
10:15 entire time that I was in School and prayed the prayer...
10:20 the Lord had me... always I had a 3.8 to 4.0 averages
10:24 for the whole time I was in School...
10:26 Oh... So much so, I won all these
10:27 Scholarships and Awards... and I was going to do my
10:30 next... my first two years and my second two years...
10:32 and then finally... after graduating with my first
10:35 degree... well, really two...
10:37 with the... two-year... and then the four...
10:38 and then when I moved to Huntsville, Alabama...
10:40 I went into the Master's Program
10:42 and that Master's Program... along with working there...
10:45 I was also at Oakwood University teaching as a Professor
10:49 Wow! and also... working...
10:50 well I was working in the cafeteria first
10:52 as an In-Service Nutritionist, as I was finishing the
10:54 Master's Program... and then from the Master's Program
10:57 I went into the actual classroom and taught as a Professor
11:01 at Oakwood... Oh, this is so good...
11:02 you know... because our viewers see you guys
11:04 but they don't know really... they don't know what's behind
11:08 Hmmm... What's the story behind you...
11:10 so I'm glad that we can offer that...
11:12 what about you Curtis, now...
11:14 Well, I grew up as a Seventh-day Adventist Christian
11:16 my mom was a single parent, coming up in Cleveland, Ohio...
11:19 and so... we always recognized the health message...
11:23 as far as... we always had whole wheat bread,
11:26 Hmmm... we ate meat at that time...
11:28 but not a whole lot... Hmmm... hmmm...
11:29 as I grew older... I began to study more on my own...
11:32 when I moved away from home at Age 21...
11:34 I began to study more about the health message...
11:37 and what it does... to the body temple...
11:39 Hmmm... I began to read more and more
11:40 and realized that... there is a connection between
11:42 what goes into my body... and my spiritual well-being...
11:46 the connection... Ah... come on now...
11:49 come on now... say that again because our viewers need
11:51 to hear this... say that one more time...
11:52 What goes into my body... impacts my spirituality...
11:55 Hmmm... hmmm... how so?
11:56 Yeah... well, number one... I read a statement...
11:59 there's a book called, "Counsels on Diets and Foods"
12:01 Hmmm... hmmm... it's about... maybe I guess...
12:04 about 28 years ago...
12:05 on a Sunday night in Houston
12:07 in my one-bedroom apartment about 10:30 at night...
12:09 I remember it very well... I read a statement that says...
12:12 page 381 I believe... "A religious life... could be
12:18 more successfully gained... and maintained if meat is discarded
12:25 for this diet... weakens the moral and spiritual nature. "
12:31 Wow! wow... when I read that... because,
12:35 I was like maybe 23 or 24
12:37 so if you told me that flesh food increased my risk of
12:41 Prostate Cancer... Diabetes and Heart Disease...
12:43 that's fine... the worst thing there's McDonald's...
12:45 that would not have fazed me... Hmmm...
12:47 but when I realized that this article... food...
12:49 impacts my spirituality... you got my attention...
12:52 Hmmm... hmmm... and I began to read more about
12:54 what the Bible says about that too...
12:55 1 Peter 2 verse 8 and verse 10 impacts the spirituality...
13:00 so that moved me to more of a healthier lifestyle...
13:03 and my mother always said, of our family...
13:05 I was the first one who became a vegetarian...
13:07 then my mother said... "Well, I can't let my children
13:10 go ahead of me... " and so she became a vegetarian.
13:12 All right... hmmm... hmmm... But I really...
13:14 it had nothing to do with health
13:16 it was first the impact on my spirituality...
13:19 Very interesting... That's what drove me to the
13:21 health message... as far as that's concerned, yes...
13:24 And I would think that... it's because...
13:26 the mind is clearer... and can receive the impulses
13:31 from the Holy Spirit... Right...
13:32 and the "impress" of the Holy Spirit...
13:35 much more readily... Absolutely...
13:37 when the diet is better...
13:38 Yes, and I began to read... what God's original diet was
13:41 in the Word of God... the first book of the Bible,
13:43 the first chapter of the Bible, and it says in verse 29
13:47 then after sin... Genesis 3 verse 18...
13:50 both of those two verses,
13:52 is a plant-based diet...
13:53 That's right... and with that plant-based diet,
13:55 then people... in Biblical days lived... 900-years-old...
13:59 Hmmm... You know, Adam... lived like 930
14:02 Methuselah lived 969 years, and so... in the nine hundreds,
14:06 when meat was introduced... the life expectancy went down,
14:11 so... So, would you say then...
14:12 getting back to what I had said at the very beginning
14:16 at the outset of the Program, that one of the things to do
14:20 to get started... on that healthier path...
14:23 would be to eliminate or at least
14:25 reduce the consumption of meat, would you say that?
14:28 I would say, starting off... like you just said...
14:30 the word "reduce" some people can go cold turkey
14:33 and go completely off of it...
14:34 but... if you're reducing it... little by little...
14:37 but you're adding now... recipes that actually mimic
14:39 because one of the things that has made our
14:41 show successful is that... we have not changed out
14:44 the whole recipe to something
14:46 that people have never seen... Hmmm...
14:48 in other words... we make foods that look like
14:49 something that they've... we eat with our eyes...
14:51 Hmmm... hmmm... and so, if it looks good...
14:53 and something we've had before, we're more apt to try it...
14:56 it's just those strange foods that people kind of back off
14:59 away from... and so... we never talk about the word
15:02 "Veganism" we say... plant-based Hmmm... hmmm...
15:06 because when you say the word "Vegan"
15:07 that's even worse than saying "vegetarian"
15:10 Vegetarian is bad... but Vegan is like...
15:12 we're in a different planet... you know...
15:14 "the 'V' word" the V word...
15:16 so all we can say is... "Cholesterol-free"
15:19 Oh, there you go... That's Vegan but...
15:21 people don't connect the dots... Yeah, yeah...
15:23 Maybe the ones watching the Program
15:24 may now connect the dots... but I just threw it out there so...
15:27 When you're dealing with Community education...
15:29 you want to kind of start them where they are...
15:31 Hmmm... hmmm... but the object is to move them
15:32 on to a better thing...
15:34 and so, with that in mind... the same thing with me...
15:36 when I was raising the children up
15:38 and that was... that was a whole different
15:40 world for me to talk about... trying to talk about meat
15:42 I mean... not meat but, vegetarian...
15:43 when we were not even going that way...
15:46 had not eaten that kind of stuff
15:48 when we were growing up... and so, to actually move
15:51 into it... I cried a lot... and I tried a lot of things
15:54 I threw a lot of things in File 13
15:55 and that's the trash can
15:56 and as I began putting things together...
15:58 more and more... putting things together...
16:00 things began to just taste better...
16:02 and it looked good and people were like...
16:05 "Girl, your stuff is really good Girl... "
16:07 they kind of... pulled me on...
16:09 Yeah, yeah, that reinforces... right?
16:12 It really does... Because you start... you know...
16:14 you start getting some success here...
16:16 it's tasting good... your family is saying,
16:18 "Oh, this is good... " and what's really good...
16:20 is when people... who normally are heavy-duty meat eaters...
16:25 when they taste your food and they go...
16:27 "Oh, I can do this... " then... it's...
16:29 it really makes you feel good...
16:30 And they think they're eating meat...
16:32 That's it... Oh...
16:33 See, we don't tell them until they finish swallowing...
16:36 Okay... then we tell them...
16:38 they say, "Really... " yeah...
16:39 Okay... okay... and I have to taste all this...
16:42 I mean... it's a rough life... it really is... I mean...
16:44 I'm just up to... my ankles may be... okay...
16:47 but somebody will have to sample it
16:48 before it goes out into the public
16:49 so, it's me... Well, see now, in the
16:52 beginning days... I would have said, "Poor you"
16:54 but now... I don't think I'm saying that...
16:57 I can't tell you how many guys want to switch places with me
16:59 for tasting the food... that is...
17:01 We did a class one time, we did a class one time,
17:03 and we were giving out door prizes...
17:05 and we had people come on stage and we were giving
17:09 different samples out and everything...
17:10 and so when we got done, one guy raised his hand up...
17:12 and he said... "I just have one question...
17:13 one question... " and Curtis said "Okay, go ahead"
17:15 and he said, "Well, I noticed you're giving
17:17 a lot of stuff away... but I was just wondering...
17:18 can we take her home for about a week?"
17:20 Curtis said, "I don't play that, I don't play that... "
17:24 This is in Wisconsin... the guy... he was in his 70s
17:27 and I said... "I don't play that... "
17:30 I was not smiling... he got the message...
17:34 so let's move on... "No, I'll not share my wife...
17:39 forget about it... "
17:41 So, okay, so... let's look at this... so...
17:43 you would reduce or eliminate
17:46 meat... animal products... okay...
17:49 what else would you tell people to do... that don't know...
17:52 they want to get healthy, but where should they start?
17:55 I would switch... we start switching things out...
17:57 for instance... when you reduce the milk... okay...
18:00 then you're going to look for something that looks like milk
18:02 or acts like milk... and milk is actually just there
18:05 to help get things wet... so we'll move from whole milk
18:08 2 percent milk... 1 percent milk...
18:10 then we're going to move now into almond milks...
18:13 and we're going to move into soya milks...
18:14 then we're going to move into rice milks...
18:16 because they have the same coloring
18:18 and because you just need that there
18:19 just to keep things together...
18:21 then we start using that... so you got your milk substitute
18:23 then we're looking at the cheeses
18:25 now before... back in the day...
18:26 they had all those hard cheeses out there... and then...
18:29 even when you went to vegetarian-type cheeses...
18:31 they really didn't melt or anything
18:33 because after all... a regular cheese is actually
18:35 nothing more than a soya bean itself...
18:36 you can't really break that down
18:38 Hmmm... so, we say now...
18:40 there are so many substitutes on the market...
18:43 that are imitation cheeses, on top of which
18:45 we actually have made our own cheeses...
18:48 that you can make from scratch,
18:49 and put on your pizza, your Mac and cheese...
18:51 all that kind of stuff... so you want to look at...
18:53 instead of trying to take everything away...
18:55 let's see what we can do in it's place...
18:57 like he said, for the meat part... you can...
18:59 there are burgers out there
19:00 there's ground beef out there there's Mock Chicken out there
19:03 everything that people are used to...
19:04 so you want to switch them out...
19:06 There are ground beef substitutes... yes... yes...
19:08 The main thing is to give them something... better
19:11 because the number one killer disease is cardiovascular
19:14 heart disease and stroke... every 45 minutes...
19:16 every 45 seconds... every 32 seconds...
19:19 are stroke and heart disease... heart attack...
19:21 so, and a lot of that is due to a high cholesterol level...
19:24 Okay... cholesterol comes from? Animal Kingdom...
19:28 as an animal with a face or a mother...
19:30 so, if we take that away... really...
19:32 then you eliminate or reduce the risk of
19:35 cardiovascular disease, so it's just not the meat...
19:38 the products of flesh... which is the milk and cheese...
19:41 we'll switch that out... so it still mimics...
19:44 tastes like... looks like... has the same mouth-feel
19:47 and can't tell the difference...
19:49 And see... I think that... that's critical
19:52 because if you give people things that are
19:54 too foreign to the taste,
19:56 like... "You know what... this is not happening...
19:59 I don't like it... I can't get with this...
20:01 this is not happening... "
20:03 but if you have something that tastes like
20:06 the original deal... Right... and looks like...
20:10 and gives you that same consistency of...
20:13 then... it's not such a difficult transition... I think
20:16 Yeah... we have a statement saying...
20:18 "Never serve your Company...
20:21 strange foods... "
20:23 Because if it's strange... if it's strange...
20:26 I don't care how healthy it is, if it's strange...
20:28 I'm going to McDonald's, "Where's Popeyes?"
20:32 Well, you know... as a professor at Oakwood University...
20:34 I remember teaching my classes in Nutrition...
20:36 and my students would always say,
20:37 "Ms. Eakins... the kind of food that we're supposed to be
20:40 eating here... you know... if I ate that way...
20:42 there's not enough food there" and I said...
20:45 "That's because you eat to live, not live to eat... "
20:48 and now we start trying talking about
20:50 making those changes... and making changes inch by inch
20:52 we say, "Inch by inch... anything's a cinch... "
20:55 and so you just have to try to switch things out...
20:58 you know... if you switch out... switch out your milk...
21:00 and then you switch out your cheese...
21:01 and then you switch out... so you can still just move
21:04 gradually into it... we call our diet really...
21:06 "Alternative" "Another Alternative"
21:08 instead of trying to push it on you...
21:10 we can say, "Why don't you consider
21:13 doing a plant-based diet maybe one day a week...
21:17 and then, maybe, three days a week...
21:18 and so, that way they don't feel like you're trying to
21:20 really give them a hard time,
21:22 and they can still... in between time...
21:24 get some good recipes that can make some good food up.
21:27 You really did not really eliminate a lot of their
21:29 favorite foods... just changing their ingredients
21:32 That's right... and that's the key...
21:33 That is the key... that's what I found too
21:36 when I was practicing... that if you want people to
21:40 improve with their diet... you have to...
21:42 you can't take away... and not give them something
21:46 that is equal or better...
21:47 or not equal... but better
21:49 so that they are getting on a new path
21:52 without really sacrificing that much...
21:55 And let me add one more critical thing...
21:58 Hmmm... Also, as a bonus...
22:00 more economical...
22:02 Oh yes, when they're counting their money...
22:03 oh! absolutely...
22:05 Now, that's interesting because some people would say,
22:07 "Well, isn't it expensive... to buy all that stuff?"
22:09 That's one thing we always hear okay... not necessarily so...
22:10 Okay... tell us how?
22:12 Honey, let's go with the burgers...
22:14 just for instance... go ahead...
22:15 You know the thing that's so amazing is...
22:16 we have about 6 different kinds of burgers we make...
22:18 with a lot of beans... and you know,
22:20 beans are very inexpensive... Right...
22:22 and we buy the dry beans and then we cook the beans up
22:24 and then we start putting all the seasonings and spices
22:26 and breadcrumbs and stuff in them...
22:28 so you're actually going to spend less money...
22:30 there's no bone... there's no fat...
22:33 there's no grizzle... you got the real true burger there
22:36 so we make these burgers up
22:37 and put them on a whole-wheat bun
22:39 with lettuce, tomatoes, red onions...
22:40 Oh... come on... come on...
22:42 I know... with food... I get excited with food...
22:46 I can't help it...
22:47 I get excited with food...
22:49 So we serve them up with something like our
22:51 oven-baked fries... we do the fries in the oven
22:54 you know... and then we'll do a smoothie
22:56 which is like a milk shake with strawberries and bananas
22:59 and oranges and stuff in it...
23:00 so, it's really like the foods they're used to seeing...
23:03 but it's a healthier format... so we say,
23:06 "Don't snatch away the stuff you're used to... "
23:08 We like to find out what individuals like to eat...
23:10 Their super foods...
23:11 and then we turn around and make the foods
23:13 that match the foods they eat... That's great...
23:15 And we also have a saying that goes something like this...
23:18 "The cost of food... does not stop at the cash register. "
23:21 That's right... that's right... Oh, come on now...
23:23 Because what you buy, that cost of food...
23:26 also continues on to the doctor's office...
23:28 medication... drugs... clinics, hospitals, et cetera...
23:32 that's the total cost of food.
23:35 That's a great point... and you're going to pay
23:37 either before... or after... That's right...
23:40 You know... somehow you're going to pay for what you do...
23:42 that is so critical... Yeah...
23:45 What would you say... is the greatest challenge
23:48 that you guys face... in conveying
23:51 health principles to people, what do you think
23:53 is the biggest challenge to getting people
23:56 to actually make a change?
23:58 I think...
24:01 a lot of times... a lot of people...
24:03 now we are in the South... Huntsville, Alabama...
24:06 Okay... And... that South has
24:10 the most challenging area of any area in the United States
24:13 How so?
24:14 we're the "Diabetes Belt" number one...
24:17 we're in the "Stroke Belt" number two...
24:21 the top 3 Obese States in this Nation...
24:24 Mississippi is number one... eight years running...
24:28 Alabama and Tennessee are tied for second place...
24:30 Wow! I didn't know that... So the obesity rate...
24:33 is top in South Central area as well...
24:35 so we're a "Stoke Belt," "Diabetes Belt,"
24:38 and "Obesity Belt" with that... you also have
24:42 of course, hypertension as well...
24:44 so with that in mind... you have a lot of cultural taste
24:47 that people are used to eating, in those States...
24:51 mainly... fried foods...
24:54 Hmmm... hmmm... Particularly in the South...
24:56 in the deep South... Hmmm... hmmm...
24:58 so, therefore, we have to educate people
24:59 and we go through God's Word...
25:00 the Word of God... because... we're also in the
25:03 "Bible Belt... " we have to have more freedom
25:06 in that area... spend more in educating people
25:09 in our PowerPoint presentations
25:10 there are Bible texts in there too...
25:13 we don't turn into a Sunday-School Class but...
25:15 let people know that the Word of God
25:16 has something to say about healthful living...
25:19 help them have more freedom than let's say in the West
25:21 or Midwest... all right... so look at it
25:23 from that standpoint... from the Spiritual standpoint,
25:25 from a Biblical standpoint, people are more accepting
25:28 and realize that... the Word of God has something
25:30 to say about healthful living as well...
25:31 and they seem to be a little bit more accepting
25:34 and make that transition as well...
25:35 Along with that too... is that...
25:37 when we're doing our classes in the Community...
25:39 the people are sick... when they come to our classes
25:42 their cholesterol's sky-high their blood pressure is high,
25:44 and they've got Diabetes... so they come to the Class
25:47 because they want to learn more...
25:48 although they might not be ready to make these changes,
25:50 but they want to learn more about what's going on
25:52 with their body... the high cost that they're
25:54 paying for the drugs they are taking,
25:55 or someone's just died of a Heart Attack or a Stroke...
25:58 and so they're more open when they come in...
26:00 Yes... although that tradition
26:02 is still back there... Right...
26:04 and so that's why we make foods...
26:06 that match their tradition...
26:08 Once they taste the food... yeah... Master of Tradition...
26:11 That is critical... because if you're...
26:14 they're going to want... many times...
26:17 some Greens... Mac and Cheese, Fried Something...
26:21 Corn Bread... Fried Chicken... so if you can find a substitute
26:27 for each thing... that's palatable...
26:29 it still tastes good... so, they don't go...
26:32 "eeewwww... "
26:33 Because they're not missing anything...
26:35 That's right... that's right that is critical...
26:37 You know what... oh go ahead...
26:38 I'm just saying... we just praise God...
26:40 because when we go and do these Programs...
26:42 is that... we find out what's actually going on
26:44 in that Community... and so we prepare the foods
26:46 that match that... so they're excited...
26:48 because they know... okay... I don't believe this...
26:50 so they'll say something like, "No she didn't do that... "
26:52 "No she didn't make a cheesecake with tofu...
26:54 with strawberries on the side, no, no, no... "
26:56 but when they go to eat it they are shocked
26:58 and they are ready to get the recipes and start...
27:00 Oh... you know what? our time is up...
27:03 I can't believe it... our time is up...
27:05 Hey, let's go for another 30 minutes...
27:07 We can't have the Director go... "Oh... "
27:10 He's probably doing that right now...
27:13 I know... I know... I know thank you so much...
27:15 you guys are such a wonderful blessing...
27:17 we love you at 3ABN... thank you...
27:19 Genesis 1:29 outlines man's original diet...
27:23 God says... "Behold I have given you every herb bearing seed,
27:26 which is upon the face of all the earth,
27:28 and every tree, in which is the fruit
27:30 of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
27:34 man's original diet was a plant-based diet...
27:37 there are now hundreds of studies
27:39 that attest to the efficacy of a plant-based diet...
27:41 I hope that you will implement the steps
27:44 that were suggested here by the Eakins today...
27:47 to make your life healthier...
27:48 Jesus wants you to be healthy and whole...
27:51 His Word will give you the principles that can lead you
27:54 to a truly abundant life.
27:56 Well we've reached the close of another program,
27:59 thanks for watching, see you next time,
28:01 it just wouldn't be the same... without you...


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