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00:02 you could study the Bible in 5D? 00:04 Stay tuned to find out about a unique system 00:06 that you can implement that will help you 00:08 see the Bible like never before. 00:11 My name is Jason Bradley, 00:12 and you're watching Urban Report. 00:37 Hello and welcome to Urban Report. 00:39 My guest today is Pastor Ivor Myers, 00:41 Speaker and Director of Power of the Lamb Ministries 00:45 and he is also the co-host of Dare to Dream Networks, 00:48 Salvation in Symbols and Signs. 00:51 Welcome to Urban Report, Pastor Myers. 00:56 Thank you, Jason. Thanks for having me. 00:59 I'm looking forward to this program today. 01:02 I think we had a good 01:05 study in our last session. 01:08 And I know we're continuing on 01:10 so I'm looking forward to start getting deep into it. 01:13 Absolutely, absolutely. 01:14 And, you know, you've taken it five dimensions deep. 01:19 I mean, you with this photo theology thing, 01:22 we're going five dimensions deep. 01:24 So, you know, for our viewers 01:26 that haven't seen part one, 01:29 why don't you give us a little recap 01:31 of what photo theology is, 01:33 and then also touch on the five dimensions? 01:38 Okay, so basically, 01:41 photo theology is a term 01:44 that I've coined, and that term is the phrase 01:47 that I use to describe my method of Bible study. 01:52 Photo theology is the art of studying 01:54 the Bible through the use of images. 01:57 We've all heard that seeing a picture 01:59 is worth 1000 words. 02:02 So I take that philosophy and apply it to the scriptures. 02:08 So I'm basically teaching my students 02:11 how to see the Bible in pictures. 02:14 And then how to take these pictures 02:15 and learn to create storylines 02:19 with the different pictures, 02:20 do different things with the different images 02:23 and I found is that 02:27 it just 10xes 02:30 your ability to understand scripture. 02:35 Kids are using it, 02:36 people who have been studying for years, you know, 02:39 from whether they're young or old. 02:42 Using this system, they're beginning to see 02:45 and get so much more out of their Bible study. 02:48 And so that's what 02:50 we're going to be talking about today. 02:51 That is a bird's eye view or I should say 02:54 a nutshell description of what photo theology is. 02:56 Got you. 02:57 So now when you say you teach your students 03:00 to draw other like pictures from the stories, how do you? 03:06 Do you mean like you help them to see parallels? 03:09 So like, give us an example 03:11 of some parallels that you can see? 03:16 So the idea and we talked a little bit 03:20 about this in the last program. 03:23 Before I do that, 03:26 let me give a little bit of foundation. 03:28 So we were talking about the photo theology palace. 03:31 And remember that we discussed this, you know, 03:34 this imaginary palace that has 24 different rooms, 03:39 right, six floors, 24 rooms. 03:42 Each room is a different principle 03:47 in photo theology. 03:49 So one of the rooms that we discussed 03:52 on our last program 03:56 was the concentration 03:58 which is one of the foundational rules 04:03 or principles when it comes to photo theology. 04:06 It is the art of taking images 04:08 or pictures and looking for a match, 04:11 looking for the comparison 04:15 with Christ in particular. 04:17 So I don't know if I shared this 04:20 or not in the last program, we talked about Waldo. 04:23 Or I'll often share that analogy of those little books, 04:26 Waldo, Finding Waldo. 04:30 You know, in those books, 04:32 the object is to find 04:34 Waldo on every page of the book. 04:36 Right, no matter how much detail 04:39 is on the page, you know, 04:40 Waldo is somewhere on the page. 04:43 And so photo theology 04:45 approaches the Bible with that idea in mind 04:48 that Christ is on every page of the scriptures. 04:53 So when you begin to look at stories 04:56 with that idea of where is Christ, right? 05:00 With that concept of where is Christ in the story, 05:03 where is He in the text? 05:05 Where is He in the parable? 05:07 That's when things begin to jump off the page. 05:09 So one example 05:10 that I would give is the story 05:14 of Elijah and Elisha. 05:17 Okay, I do not know 05:18 if I shared this on the last program or not. 05:21 But Elijah 05:26 came before Elisha. 05:30 Elijah, there is a transition of power 05:34 from Elijah to Elisha after Jordan. 05:39 Elijah is then taken off the scene 05:44 and the disciples of Elijah 05:47 go on to follow Elisha. 05:51 Elisha has a double portion of the power that Elijah had. 05:56 I think I see where you're going with this. 05:58 Okay. 06:00 And Elijah... 06:02 Elisha's first miracle after crossing the Jordan, 06:08 was he provided what, 06:10 he provided drink for the thirsty. 06:14 All right, so you just said, 06:16 "I think I see 06:17 where you're going with this," right? 06:20 For those that are listening, 06:22 you may be, in your minds right now like, 06:25 wait, what? 06:26 And that's probably 06:27 because as I was giving you that picture, 06:30 you started playing the concentration game, right? 06:34 We described 06:35 in the last program concentration game. 06:37 We have all the cards facing down. 06:40 There was a card game I played when I was little. 06:42 I have all the cards put facing down. 06:44 And the objective is to find matching cards. 06:47 You have to remember 06:49 where you saw the matching card, 06:51 and when you find it, you know, 06:52 that's a point or that's a victory, 06:54 whatever it, you have them describe it. 06:56 This is the same thing. 06:58 When I describe this 07:00 many of you perhaps began to think, 07:03 wait a minute, that reminds me 07:07 of Jesus and John the Baptist. 07:11 Why? 07:12 Because there's a transition of power 07:15 from John the Baptist to Jesus at the Jordan. 07:20 After that transition of power, 07:22 John the Baptist is taken off the scene 07:26 and Jesus continues on. 07:29 Just as Elisha was more powerful than Elijah. 07:33 So John the Baptist said, 07:34 "I must decrease and He must increase." 07:40 The disciples of John the Baptist 07:43 go on to follow Jesus. 07:47 And Jesus' first miracle after crossing the Jordan, 07:52 is He turns water to wine. 07:56 So basically, all we did just now 08:00 was we just studied the Bible using images, 08:05 using pictures and stories 08:07 that most everyone who's ever studied the Bible 08:10 is already familiar with. 08:11 We just played a matching game. 08:13 And now we're like, "Wait a minute, what?" 08:15 Yes. Yes. 08:18 That excitement begins... 08:20 The story jumps off the page, 08:23 because you're studying it not just through words, 08:26 I'm not saying we do away with words, 08:28 but what's happening that you're bringing 08:30 a visual element to the stories. 08:33 And when you do that, things suddenly come to light. 08:38 Yeah, just jumps off the page at you. 08:40 So touch on the five dimensions, 08:44 because I remember you telling us that, you know, 08:48 we study in 2D as opposed to 5D. 08:54 Right. 08:56 So to recap about this five dimension... 08:59 By the way, the 5D room is short 09:02 for five dimensions is one of the rooms 09:06 in the photo theology palace. 09:10 And basically what that principle 09:12 does is it allows us to see the scriptures 09:15 in five dimensions, 09:16 those five dimensions are in order, 09:18 the literal dimension, and then the Christ dimension, 09:23 and then the me dimension, 09:24 and then the church dimension, and then the heaven dimension. 09:28 So the question you would ask in each dimension is, 09:33 how does this relate, you know, what am I studying? 09:35 What is the text saying, literally? 09:37 That's the literal dimension. 09:38 Then where is Jesus in the text or story? 09:41 That's the second dimension. 09:43 Then how does it relate to me? 09:44 That's the third dimension. 09:45 How does it relate to the church? 09:47 The fourth dimension. 09:48 How does it relate to heaven? Fifth dimension. 09:51 So I think last week we talked about the sanctuary. 09:55 And how in each, you know, there's literal sanctuary, 09:58 then Christ Himself as a temple is a sanctuary. 10:03 Destroy this temple, I will raise in three days. 10:05 Then I am a temple, then as a church 10:08 we are the temple of body of Christ, 10:10 and then there's a heavenly sanctuary. 10:12 We can do that 10:14 for different things in the scriptures, 10:15 we can do it for the priesthood. 10:17 In the Old Testament there was a literal priesthood, right? 10:19 That's the literal dimension. 10:21 And the second dimension, Christ is our high priest. 10:26 In the third dimension I am called to be a priest 10:29 and maybe the priests of my own household. 10:32 In the fourth dimension, we are a royal priesthood. 10:36 And the fifth dimension 10:38 we will be kings and priests with Him 10:40 for thousand years in heaven, right? 10:43 So basically, you're learning to see one text 10:48 in five different dimensions, one verse, one story, 10:52 five different dimensions. 10:54 This opens up, right, 10:57 the way that you study the scriptures 10:58 because as I said, 11:00 most people study the Bible in two dimensions. 11:05 That's the literal and then how does it relate to me? 11:09 I know, Jason, we also talked about the question room 11:13 when we were talking about asking the text questions. 11:15 I don't know if I mentioned this 11:17 when we talked last 11:19 but we talked about the challenge of, 11:22 you know, opening or asking questions, 11:26 as many questions as you can with the text, 11:28 50 questions, or 100 questions. 11:31 And then again, I don't remember 11:33 if we'd discuss this, 11:34 but we did that first and then 11:38 what I what I want to demonstrate 11:40 is that when most people, 11:42 when I need my students to ask the text questions, 11:44 this is before we do the dimensions room. 11:47 So when they get like 50 or 100 questions from the text, 11:51 and then I introduce them to the dimensions room, 11:54 and I'm like "Now, 11:55 you were only asking questions in one dimension." 11:59 Wow! 12:01 That's when their mind opens. Yeah. 12:03 And that's 50 to 100 questions 12:05 and in only one dimension 12:09 but yet there's five dimensions. 12:12 And there's five dimensions. 12:15 So the reason that I try to encourage my, 12:19 you know, my students ask the text questions, 12:21 because what happens is, 12:24 when you ask the text questions, 12:25 you begin to think about things about that text 12:28 that you maybe would never have thought 12:30 about before, right? 12:32 So our goal in the question room 12:35 is to learn how to become good detectives, 12:39 asking questions that 12:40 other people didn't even think about. 12:42 Yes. 12:43 And when you ask those questions, 12:44 they tend to lead you on thought patterns 12:47 where you're like, "Wait a minute, wait a minute. 12:49 I never thought about that before. 12:50 Well, if this happened because of this, 12:53 then oh, oh," 12:57 and that's when you get those ah-ah moments. 12:59 Got you. 13:00 So we actually have several graphics 13:05 that we didn't have a chance to get through last time. 13:09 Why don't you kind of touch on 13:13 what the importance 13:14 or significance of these graphics? 13:18 Okay. 13:21 So one of the rooms we talked about, 13:24 and this room was on the ground floor. 13:27 We talked about the 24 frames per second room, 13:31 we talked about the importance 13:33 of memorizing the themes of each chapter, 13:35 because that's how you're going to populate, 13:39 if you will, or furnish your photo theology palace. 13:44 The more pictures 13:45 you have in your photo theology palace, 13:47 the more effective your Bible study becomes. 13:51 So we basically created 13:54 this method of memorizing 13:59 the different themes of the chapters. 14:03 So the picture you were just sharing 14:06 is picture of planet earth with a 1 on top of it. 14:12 And that picture, when you see that picture, 14:16 the idea is to remember that 14:19 that is what is found in Genesis Chapter 1, 14:22 the creation of the earth. 14:25 And so when we see that image of creation of the earth 14:28 and we see the earth with a big 1 on it. 14:31 We're always gonna remember Genesis Chapter 1, creation. 14:38 That's supposed to be locked into our minds. 14:40 Yeah. 14:42 All right, what is the next picture? 14:43 Let's put the next one up. 14:47 That's the Genesis Chapter 1. 14:49 Let's put the... 14:50 Yeah, there we go. 14:53 So that looks to me, I'm picturing Adam and Eve. 15:00 Okay. 15:02 That image I can't... 15:03 For some reason I can't see it on my screen, 15:04 but I'll... There we go. 15:06 So here you have a picture of Adam and Eve. 15:09 Now I'm going to show you 15:12 something that you did not notice in this picture. 15:13 So look at Eve's hair, what do you see? 15:15 You said Eve's hair? Yes. 15:19 It seems... What it did tell us? 15:22 Oh, number two. Very good. 15:27 So I'm going to always remember that 15:30 when I think about 15:34 the Eve's hair in the shape of a 2, 15:36 I'm always gonna remember, 15:38 yeah, that's Genesis Chapter 2, 15:40 that's where we focus in on Adam and Eve. 15:42 Wow! Right. 15:45 You're using memory devices, 15:49 using images to help you 15:51 remember the theme of each chapter, 15:54 right, so the next one. 15:56 All right. 15:57 We'll put the next picture up here. 16:01 Okay, so there you see the serpent 16:06 and you will notice that the serpent looks like 16:08 he's in the shape of a 3. 16:10 You also see that 16:12 the tree looks like it's in the shape of a 3. 16:16 So I'm connecting the serpent and the tree with the number 3 16:22 to always remember when I get to Genesis 3, 16:25 that's the story of the tree, 16:28 that's the story of the serpent. 16:32 When I do this, what begins to happen is 16:35 I'm now depending on these images, right, 16:38 to wake up my memory. 16:42 So now I'm thinking planet earth, 16:46 I'm thinking Eve's hair, 16:48 I'm thinking the tree in the shape of a 3 16:52 and I begin to be able to go move rapidly 16:55 through these chapters going "Yeah, 16:57 Genesis 1, creation, Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, Genesis 3, 17:01 that's the tree, Genesis 4, 17:03 the picture that you see on your screen now 17:05 is the story of Cain killing his brother. 17:08 I see blood on the rock, the blood is in the shape of 4. 17:14 I'm going to always remember 17:16 whenever I see that image in my mind, 17:18 I'm gonna remember that 17:20 Genesis Chapter 4 is the story of Cain killing Abel. 17:24 Wow. 17:26 And we have two more pictures. 17:30 All right, so this is Genesis Chapter what? 17:34 Is that 6? Should be obvious right there. 17:37 That's 6, the 6 has been tripped on 17:40 its side to be in the shape of a boat. 17:45 I'm always gonna remember when I see that 6 mentally, 17:48 that that is a story of Noah building the ark. 17:51 Yes. Yes. 17:54 And our sixth picture. Okay. 17:59 Now what is this? Now this is... 18:03 Yeah, this is Genesis Chapter 17. 18:04 Okay. 18:07 And Genesis Chapter 17, 18:10 the 17 is in the shape of a scissor. 18:16 This is a painful chapter. 18:20 This is where Abraham is circumcised. 18:24 Oh, yeah, that is a painful chapter. 18:28 That's right. 18:29 You will never forget that Genesis 17 is a chapter 18:32 that Abraham is circumcised 18:33 because we see the 1 18:35 and the 7 in the shape of a pair of scissors. 18:40 That will remind me "Oh, yeah, that's a painful chapter." 18:43 Like, think about it, feel the pain, right? 18:46 Like, everything that you can, 18:48 when we're talking about these chapters 18:50 you want to bring every sense 18:52 you possibly can into it, right? 18:54 So when you're talking about Cain or the tree in Genesis 3, 19:00 think of the taste of the fruit. 19:03 Think of every... 19:04 employ every sense 19:07 to make that image stick in your mind. 19:10 So the reason that we're doing this, 19:12 Jason, is because again, 19:15 we're training our minds how to think in pictures. 19:18 Got you. Got you, photo theology. 19:21 Now okay, I know some people 19:23 have seen you preach and all of that stuff, 19:25 and they have to be wondering, 19:27 how do you prepare your sermons? 19:32 Yeah. 19:34 So this is, to me, 19:39 this is a huge advantage to photo theology. 19:46 Let me address another issue here while we're at this. 19:51 So one of the problems that I hear most often 19:54 when people say, you know, 19:55 "Hey, this is my struggle 19:57 with Bible study is the issue of time." 19:59 Okay. 20:01 "I don't have time to Bible study." 20:03 Right? 20:05 I don't know if you run into that issue, Jason. 20:09 "We're so busy. 20:11 We don't have time to study" 20:12 and that is, you know, a huge component. 20:16 So photo theology 20:18 totally destroys that. 20:22 I'm not gonna say an excuse, 20:24 but it moves that out of the way. 20:26 It answers that problem. 20:28 I'm gonna say it that way because it's a genuine problem. 20:30 People are busy, 20:32 they got a lot of things going on, 20:33 things, da-da-da. 20:34 Right? 20:36 Photo theology answers the problem. 20:40 Why? 20:42 Because when I have Genesis 6 20:46 and Genesis 5, and Genesis 4, 20:48 and Genesis 3, and Genesis 17, 20:51 when I have those stories 20:53 locked in my mind, 20:58 I can now do Bible study in my mind 21:03 while I'm driving, 21:06 while I'm doing the dishes, while I'm out exercising, 21:12 my Bible study is no longer limited to, 21:15 "Okay, it is now time to sit down 21:18 and open my Bible so that I can Bible study." 21:21 I got you. Do you catch what I'm saying? 21:22 Wow. 21:24 You have just 10x once again, 21:27 your Bible study time. 21:32 If I have all the stories 21:35 of Revelation in my mind. 21:39 Like, I'll give you an example. 21:40 Right now if I want to do a study 21:42 on the seven churches and the seven seals, 21:46 I typically will not have to go to my Bible 21:50 and open it up and say, 21:51 "Okay, it is time for me to study the seven churches." 21:54 Because I have it here, my Bible study is here. 21:59 Wow! See, that's huge. 22:02 That is stored. Yeah. 22:05 So when it comes time for me to put together my sermon, 22:11 it's pretty much already happened here. 22:16 When I go to the Bible, 22:18 all I'm doing now is I'm finding the verses 22:24 that were already right here. 22:26 Got you. 22:28 I'm putting together storyline 22:30 that was already put together right here. 22:32 Yes, yes. Right. 22:36 That's your... 22:38 because we're memorizing verses, 22:40 a lot of people, "Oh, man, 22:42 I got to memories the whole Bible. 22:43 Yeah, my memory is not... 22:45 I can't, you know, that's never gonna happen." 22:47 All right, let's translate 22:49 those verses into images. 22:53 "Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, I could do that." 22:55 Let's put that in your photo theology palace. 22:59 Wow. Right. 23:00 So in a sense, I'm showing people 23:04 you do have a photographic memory. 23:06 Yeah. 23:07 And see, that's huge with that Bible study, 23:10 like in your mind, because you can be on the go, 23:13 it doesn't matter where you are, 23:14 you can be studying the Word in your mind. 23:17 And when there comes a time 23:18 where we don't have access to our Bibles, you know... 23:22 Absolutely. 23:24 That will come, it'll be that much more incredible 23:29 during that time as well and needed as well. 23:33 Absolutely. So... 23:35 So that kind of brings up... 23:37 Now, what are you gonna say? Go ahead. 23:38 That kind of brings up what? 23:40 I was gonna say that that what I just talked about, 23:44 kind of brings us into another room, 23:46 which I don't think we talked about 23:48 in our last program, which was the freestyle room. 23:50 Oh, biblical free styling. Biblical free styling. 23:56 So there are two different freestyle routes. 23:58 There is the biblical freestyle, 24:01 and there's the nature freestyle. 24:04 So let me talk about the nature freestyle. 24:07 That's what I want to focus on today, and it's this. 24:11 I believe Jesus was a master freestyler. 24:15 Now when I say the word freestyle 24:17 or the term freestyle, in the hip hop industry, 24:20 this is what we would do, 24:22 we would often freestyle 24:25 and what that meant was, 24:27 you had to come up spontaneously with a runner. 24:31 Okay? 24:32 It was the art of spontaneous rhyming. 24:37 So in a biblical sense, 24:39 the reason I'm using that term in a biblical sense is this. 24:43 Jesus, I believe Jesus, 24:47 He didn't pre plan a lot of the things 24:49 He was going to say, right? 24:51 He wasn't taking notes like, 24:52 "Oh, yeah, consider the lilies of the field." 24:55 I think he was in the field, right, 24:58 talking to the people 24:59 and He looked at the lilies and be like, 25:03 "Consider the lilies of the field." 25:04 Uh-huh. Uh-huh. 25:06 Jesus... 25:08 The sheep and the goats, right? 25:10 He spontaneously would take object lessons 25:15 from nature 25:17 and make it applicable to the gospel. 25:18 Yeah. 25:19 And he tailored it to the people 25:21 He was speaking to. 25:22 Absolutely. 25:25 So one of the things I encourage my students to do 25:28 in the freestyle room is this, 25:30 I want you when you're driving to work, 25:34 I need you to start thinking about object lessons 25:38 regarding driving to work. 25:41 Right? 25:42 When you're on the road driving, 25:44 I want you to think about object lessons. 25:46 "Okay. 25:48 We are all on the road of life." 25:50 Yes, that's right. You're on the road of life. 25:52 And, you know, we need to be careful 25:55 of what exit we get off because we... 25:57 Yes, yes. 25:59 And you start making analogies, right? 26:02 Of the very thing you're doing in real life right there. 26:05 Yeah. 26:08 So what this does is it enables you, 26:11 if you're cleaning out your garage, 26:13 I want you to think of object lessons about 26:17 cleaning out your garage. 26:18 Wow, so there's a sermon in everything. 26:19 If you're doing dishing, 26:22 there's a sermon in everything, right? 26:24 Yes. 26:25 We've got about one and a half minute left, 26:27 I know you can't see the clock, 26:28 but I want you to know, we got a minute and a half. 26:30 And I want people to know how to access this course. 26:35 So where can they go to get this course? 26:40 It's powerofthelamb.com, that's my website. 26:45 That's the easiest place to go and look up photo theology. 26:49 And you'll see how you can get access to the course 26:51 and I can't believe we just spent half an hour. 26:52 That's crazy. 26:54 I know it just flies by, I mean, there is so much. 26:57 What I love too 26:59 is how you're able to juice it down, 27:02 see it in pictures, and study on the go. 27:07 Yeah. That's right. That is incredible. 27:09 What would you say to that 27:11 individual that has never given Jesus a chance? 27:14 We've got about maybe 30 seconds. 27:18 I would say that for me personally, 27:22 the best thing that 27:24 I ever did was to give Jesus a chance, 27:26 He changed my life. 27:29 There is nothing that 27:30 I regret about giving Him that chance. 27:33 And so I would encourage you to do the same thing. 27:37 I think there is nothing to lose, 27:40 you have nothing to lose. 27:41 I think if you give Jesus a chance, 27:43 allow Him to come into your heart. 27:45 You will see what a blessing it is to live 27:50 with a blessed hope residing in your heart. 27:53 Amen. Amen. 27:54 Yeah, I've seen a little bit of your testimony 27:58 and how He's transformed your life 28:00 and that's truly a blessing. 28:01 I want to thank you for joining us 28:03 here on Urban Report. 28:05 And I want to thank you for tuning in. 28:06 Well, we've reached the end of another program. 28:08 Join us next time and remember, 28:10 it just wouldn't be the same without you. |
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