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00:01 What do you do
00:02 when you've lost someone near and dear to your heart?
00:05 Stay tuned to meet a man
00:06 who will share spiritual gems of hope.
00:09 My name is Jason Bradley,
00:10 and you're watching Urban Report.
00:34 Hello and welcome to Urban Report.
00:37 My guest today is Ricki D. Ramgoolie.
00:40 And he's here to open up to us
00:42 about what is perhaps the greatest loss
00:46 that he's ever experienced.
00:47 Welcome to Urban Report, Ricki.
00:51 Thank you so much, my friend and Jason,
00:53 my friend and brother, Jason.
00:54 It is such a privilege to be here.
00:56 I didn't think that I would have ever had to speak
00:59 on this topic from experience,
01:01 but God in His wisdom and providence
01:03 thought it differently.
01:04 And so I'm here and I'm ready to share
01:06 what God would have shared with me
01:08 during my time of grief.
01:09 Thank you so much for having me.
01:11 Oh, it's great to have you.
01:12 And hopefully, one day you can make it out here.
01:15 I know we're talking to you via Skype, but hopefully,
01:18 you can make it out here in person one of these days.
01:20 Love to have you in the studio here with us.
01:24 This is going to be...
01:26 For me, even hosting this program right now
01:30 is going to be a difficult situation
01:32 because often in times of loss that people are speechless,
01:37 that they don't know what to say.
01:38 And so, you know,
01:40 I really just want to open up the floor to you
01:42 to share about your loss and your experience
01:46 and all of those things.
01:48 So tell us a little bit about your experience
01:51 with this tremendous loss.
01:54 Who did you lose
01:55 and what were the surrounding circumstances?
02:00 Well, I lost my mother on July 28th, 2021.
02:05 And saying that I lost my mother
02:07 really boxes it into something that,
02:11 you know, it's so much larger than that.
02:13 I did not just lose my mother, I lost my port of call,
02:17 I lost my safe place, I lost my best friend.
02:21 And what was challenging about it is that mommy was only sick
02:26 for about six to nine months, seriously ill.
02:30 Before that, she was fine.
02:32 And so she degenerated very, very quickly.
02:35 And that's why I lost.
02:38 I didn't just lose a mother, I lost my everything.
02:41 Yes.
02:42 And that is the best way that I can describe it.
02:45 You know, she was everything.
02:47 She was my best friend, she was my guide,
02:50 she was my spiritual counselor, she was my disciplinarian.
02:55 She was everything to me.
02:57 And I lost her on July 28th, 2021.
03:01 That's 12 weeks ago.
03:02 So, yeah. Wow, wow.
03:05 At the time of this recording, that is.
03:06 Yes, yes. It's 12 weeks ago.
03:08 Tell us your mom's name.
03:10 What's your mom's name?
03:12 My mom's name was Umma, and I don't know what it means,
03:17 but her name was Umma.
03:20 Yes.
03:21 I had the privilege
03:23 and opportunity of meeting your mom
03:24 while I was there in Trinidad,
03:26 and she was an incredibly sweet, sweet lady.
03:31 And I'm so sorry for your loss.
03:33 You mentioned the fact that she had a great role
03:37 in your spiritual life.
03:40 At what age or when did that start?
03:43 And how did she, I guess,
03:47 help you along the way spiritually?
03:51 Well, I don't know if there is such a thing
03:52 as an age zero, all right?
03:54 Because it actually started before I was born.
03:58 Mommy had a very difficult pregnancy with me.
04:01 And so for, I think,
04:04 it was six out of the nine months
04:06 of pregnancy, she was hospitalized.
04:08 And all she was able to do was lie down.
04:11 And all she did during that time
04:13 was read the writings of Mrs. White.
04:17 And I'm not talking about
04:18 the nice colorful books we have now.
04:20 I'm talking about the books that were brown and hardcover.
04:23 I don't know if you remember those old books
04:26 from way back when those old hard brown cover books.
04:29 And so all she read,
04:32 all she did for those six months
04:34 was read the writings of Mrs. White.
04:37 Wow.
04:39 And I would like to think my spiritual development
04:40 and my spiritual training from my mom
04:42 began even during pregnancy.
04:44 And so when I was born, you know, like I said,
04:48 it was a very difficult pregnancy.
04:50 And so I was born, and from a very young age,
04:52 we had worship.
04:54 We sang together.
04:56 We read... We know...
04:57 I remember her very, very vividly
04:59 because I have a very excellent long-term memory.
05:02 I remember her very...
05:03 I remember standing in front of her bed,
05:05 you know, all these years, 20 something years ago,
05:08 teaching me my first memory verse.
05:10 The first text I remember,
05:12 the first text I learned by heart
05:14 was when Daniel said the Lord sent his angels
05:16 to shut his lion...
05:17 To shut the lion's mouth.
05:19 Wow. And it's ironically, the D...
05:21 You introduced me as Ricki D. Ramgoolie.
05:22 My middle name is Daniel.
05:24 I never knew that.
05:26 My mother named me Daniel.
05:28 Yeah, my middle name is Daniel.
05:30 And it was my mother who named me Daniel.
05:32 My father named me my first name,
05:34 and she named me Daniel.
05:35 And from a very young age,
05:37 you know, we did our lesson study together.
05:39 And, of course, I started to preach at the age of the 11.
05:43 And so she was always encouraging to me,
05:45 she would have me read my sermons.
05:46 I vetted all of my sermons.
05:48 You know, she vetted all of my sermons, rather.
05:50 I ran them through her,
05:52 and she always instilled in me that God came first.
05:55 Yes.
05:56 And she always instilled in me that God came first.
05:59 His opinion matters, His word matters.
06:02 And she's the one who instilled in me
06:04 both by telling me these things,
06:06 as well as by her example,
06:09 that all God really expects of us is the love.
06:14 Love Him and love His people, be kind to one another,
06:18 love Him, love His people.
06:20 And that is a legacy that by God's grace,
06:23 I intend to continue.
06:26 You know what you said there, Jason.
06:27 That day that you met mommy was actually the last full day
06:32 that mommy spent out.
06:33 Wow.
06:35 Because she came...
06:36 She went with me to the office in the morning
06:38 and we went in the field together.
06:39 And then you guys came in the evening.
06:41 Because shortly after that, I don't know if you remember.
06:43 Shortly after that, Jason,
06:45 our country got our first case of Corona.
06:47 Yes.
06:48 And as a result, the borders were locked down, et cetera.
06:50 Churches were closed.
06:52 And very shortly after that, mommy started to get sick.
06:55 And then she was diagnosed in September of last year,
06:57 and then she died in July.
06:58 So that day was actually the last day
07:00 mommy had full, a full day out.
07:03 Wow. And I was reflecting.
07:05 I'm so glad that she was able to spend that time with me
07:08 and spend that day and finishing off that day
07:11 with the 3ABN team.
07:12 Yeah.
07:13 'Cause it was such a great blessing that evening
07:15 and she got to meet you, and she loved you so much.
07:18 And so I was so glad that she was able to meet you.
07:21 I feel like I got to meet her.
07:22 She was... She was just such a sweet...
07:25 Like when she came up
07:27 and I spoke with her and stuff like that,
07:29 she just had such a sweet presence
07:31 about her.
07:33 You know, she was such a kind-hearted woman.
07:36 And I could tell that you loved your mom
07:42 so much by the way
07:44 that you took care of her
07:45 and just the way you were with your mom.
07:48 I could tell that you loved her so, so much.
07:52 I think it was about...
07:54 I'm sorry. I think it was about six.
07:55 I was around six or seven years old
07:58 when she told me the story of...
08:03 you know, her gynecologist coming to tell her
08:07 that he's recommending
08:09 that she had an abortion with me
08:11 because of the health complications.
08:13 And it was then and there that I purposed in my heart
08:18 to always love this woman,
08:20 because she loved me even before she met me.
08:23 Wow. And so I was seven years old.
08:26 I was always very mature for my age.
08:27 So at that age,
08:29 I could have understood what all of that meant.
08:31 And I purposed, as I said, come what may,
08:34 I'm going to love my mother
08:35 because she loved me before she even met me.
08:38 And she told that doctor,
08:39 "You are not Jesus, and I'm keeping my child."
08:42 Amen. Amen.
08:43 And, you know,
08:45 she was hospitalized, like I said.
08:46 And here I am, 33 years later.
08:48 Yeah, and that's huge.
08:51 You know, a little while ago, we talked about legacy.
08:54 And oftentimes, you hear people say
08:56 that they want to leave a legacy.
08:58 What type of legacy did your mother leave?
09:03 Two words, Jason.
09:05 I don't even have to think about this.
09:06 Two words, unconditional love.
09:09 And that is something that has challenged me
09:13 and still challenges me
09:15 because sometimes it's difficult to love people
09:17 who are mean to you,
09:19 who are, you know, evil to you, etcetera.
09:22 But my mother loved unconditionally.
09:25 She loved my father, her husband unconditionally,
09:28 she loved her children unconditionally,
09:29 her siblings, her mother.
09:31 She loved everyone unconditionally.
09:33 Even sometimes when,
09:35 you know, the worst of things were done to her,
09:37 the worst of things were said to her,
09:39 she loved unconditionally.
09:42 There are many other secondary things.
09:44 But if it's one thing that I intend by God's grace
09:47 to honor her legacy, was her unconditional love.
09:51 That is what she left for, especially, her children.
09:54 You know, that unconditional of love people,
09:56 love them through the eyes of God
09:58 and you can't go wrong.
10:00 Yeah, that's huge.
10:02 What about her faith?
10:03 Speak about her faith and how strong that was.
10:08 Yeah, her faith was very, very strong.
10:13 My mother came from a Hindu background,
10:16 and so she got baptized
10:21 38 years ago.
10:23 And it was difficult
10:24 because the family still practiced,
10:26 you know, Hinduism, et cetera.
10:27 Hinduism is very big in Trinidad.
10:30 So she was...
10:31 She had a Hindu background,
10:32 but she got baptized in what church?
10:35 Seventh-day Adventist.
10:37 She became a Seventh-day Adventist.
10:38 And, you know, I know that the Voice
10:40 of Prophecy lessons still exists,
10:42 but it's not as popular now as it was back then.
10:44 Okay.
10:46 But back then, it was the Voice of Prophecy.
10:47 And she did 12 lessons.
10:51 Twelve, I think, was out of 30 something.
10:53 Twelve lessons and the 13th lesson
10:56 was on the Sabbath.
10:57 And the Sabbath did it for her.
10:59 And after 13 lessons, she was ready to be baptized.
11:03 And so even at that time, she had...
11:07 She was married and had two children already,
11:09 my two older brothers.
11:10 They...
11:11 She defied everything and she got baptized
11:16 and she maintained her love and her faith in God.
11:20 We have been through a lot as a family in terms of,
11:23 you know, financially and health wise, et cetera.
11:27 But one thing
11:28 that we could have always depended on
11:30 was a word of faith from mommy.
11:33 And even if she didn't have anything to say,
11:36 her actions showed that she believed in God.
11:39 And she believed that, you know,
11:42 God knew best
11:43 and that all things are going to work out for our good.
11:45 You know, she taught me a while ago
11:48 that all things may not be good,
11:51 but all things will definitely work out for good,
11:53 and especially during her illness.
11:56 You know, it was in 2018 when I finished school,
12:00 finished my degree in theology.
12:01 And, you know, she finished working at the same time.
12:04 She had surgeries for cataract, et cetera.
12:07 So she and I ended up...
12:08 She and I ended up being home at the same time.
12:11 And it...
12:12 It was in 2018 that she and I really started
12:14 to watch 3ABN as much as we did, you know, together.
12:19 And our mindsets changed.
12:22 You know, this world became so dark to us.
12:25 And there's a song that says we set our mind on another time
12:28 and on another place.
12:30 And that experience, those three years
12:34 of really getting into God's Word even more.
12:36 And I would not have thought it possible
12:39 for my mother and I to grow closer,
12:40 but we grew closer during those three years.
12:42 We grew closer spiritually.
12:45 And so I'm telling you that to let you know
12:46 that during her illness,
12:48 her faith in God during her illness
12:49 and how rapidly she degenerated was mind blowing,
12:54 and it's exemplary.
12:56 Wow.
12:57 She never lost her faith in Jesus.
12:59 As a human, yes, she had really bad days,
13:01 she had really dark days,
13:02 she had really questioning days.
13:04 But when that...
13:05 When the dust settled, Jason, and when that sun was set,
13:09 she knew in whom she believed in.
13:11 Amen.
13:12 And her mind was set on things to come.
13:16 Her mind was not set here.
13:18 And all of these things, you know...
13:22 I'm talking like this,
13:23 but all of these things are just things
13:27 for me to hold on to.
13:28 Yes.
13:30 And when I am feeling darker and when I am feeling broken
13:31 and when I am feeling lonely,
13:34 you know, my mother's faith and my mother's example,
13:36 especially during her illness, especially during,
13:39 you know, the last moments of her life,
13:42 she held on to God.
13:44 Yes.
13:45 And if I intend to be reunited with her,
13:48 that's the one thing I need to do.
13:49 I need to hold on to God.
13:51 Amen, Amen.
13:53 What was going through your mind in those moments?
13:58 How were you feeling
13:59 and what were you thinking during that difficult time,
14:03 during the illness?
14:06 Well, I am a pastor,
14:08 but before that I was into the medical field.
14:13 I was actually studying to become
14:15 a forensic pathologist.
14:18 And as mommy's medical results came in
14:21 and I saw certain signs, et cetera,
14:24 I knew in my heart
14:26 that it would have taken a miracle
14:28 to bring mommy back.
14:32 And I also knew
14:35 that God was very much able to perform that miracle.
14:42 The first time I felt as if I breathed, Jason,
14:45 was when mommy breathed her last breath
14:49 to the back of my hand right here.
14:51 Wow.
14:52 That was the first time I felt
14:54 as if I breathed since September, 2020.
14:57 I felt as if I was holding my breath,
15:00 because while everyone was crumbling around her,
15:04 she...
15:05 I was the one that she looked to for support.
15:06 Yes.
15:08 I was the one that she looked to for spiritual word,
15:11 you know, 'cause while...
15:12 Yes, we have, you know,
15:14 Seventh-day Adventists in our family
15:15 and Christians, et cetera.
15:16 But in terms of deep spiritual connection,
15:18 you know, mommy and I were the ones who really,
15:20 really kept that faith and had created
15:23 an Adventist home space for ourselves.
15:25 Yes. And so she looked to me.
15:28 And so when she was in a bad place,
15:32 when she couldn't go on,
15:34 I had to be that one to remind her
15:36 of the goodness of God,
15:37 to remind her that,
15:39 you know, this world is not it.
15:40 And then even if He chooses not to move in the way
15:42 in which we think He should,
15:44 all these things are going to work together for her good.
15:47 And actually, 24 hours before she died,
15:51 she was having a really bad day.
15:52 And I thank God
15:54 that she didn't die on that day
15:55 because I did not want her to die on a bad day, you know?
15:59 The day that she died, she was having a good day.
16:01 Yes. She was not feeling sick.
16:04 She...
16:05 We got up and worshipped like we, what we often do.
16:08 But what was going through my mind was, God,
16:10 You either work a miracle or do something.
16:13 In my mind, God had two choices, Jason.
16:16 He could have healed her,
16:18 or He could have put her to sleep.
16:20 But I would've had a more difficult time
16:23 with the situation
16:24 if He had allowed her to remain alive
16:26 and she was getting sicker.
16:27 Yes.
16:29 And she was degenerating and she was suffering.
16:30 Mommy was suffering.
16:31 She was suffering physically, she was suffering mentally,
16:34 she was suffering spiritually.
16:36 And I would've had a more difficult time
16:38 if God did not do something.
16:40 So in my...
16:41 Of course, being the sovereign God
16:43 that He is,
16:44 He could have done anything He wanted to,
16:46 anything He had chosen to
16:48 and I would've still had to love Him.
16:50 Yeah.
16:51 I would've still had to open my Bible and trust Him,
16:53 you know?
16:54 But I would've had a more difficult time doing so,
16:57 if He had kept her alive when she was suffering.
16:58 Yeah.
16:59 Death to the Christian is a welcome thing.
17:01 Death to the Christian is not a bad thing because
17:04 it is actually what happens after death,
17:06 because we know death is a sleep.
17:09 The best place to be at this time, in this time,
17:12 especially in this time, is to be asleep in Jesus.
17:17 You know, Solomon who lived a very, very full life.
17:20 Solomon lived life. Okay?
17:22 He was the richest man alive, he was the wisest man alive.
17:25 He also had a lot of woman, a lot of wives.
17:28 I can't even get one, he had so much, right?
17:31 So he lived life.
17:35 But in Ecclesiastes Chapter 4,
17:38 and this was the first text, Jason.
17:40 The first time I did personal devotion after mommy died
17:43 was the day after her funeral.
17:45 And the awesome God brought to me this text.
17:50 The first text that I got when I started do
17:52 my devotion was Ecclesiastes 4:2-3.
17:57 Solomon who lived life said that he envied the dead.
18:03 Because they're not...
18:04 They don't have to fight up, as I would...
18:07 As you would say in Trinidad,
18:08 they wouldn't have to contend with the living.
18:10 And he said in verse chapter...
18:12 In verse 3 of Chapter 4,
18:15 that better than the dead and better than the living
18:18 are those who have never even been born because
18:21 they never had to face the corruption of this world.
18:26 And so death is a welcome thing
18:29 to the Christian whose life is hid in Jesus Christ.
18:33 And so for me, death is not the worst thing.
18:36 The worst thing is being alive and your life
18:40 is not hidden in Christ.
18:42 The worst thing for those who are living today
18:46 is not your loved one who is in Jesus,
18:48 sleeping in Jesus,
18:50 because the next time they wake up
18:52 will be when Jesus calls, you know?
18:55 So death...
18:57 You know, I said, you know, God,
19:00 can either heal her or He can put her asleep.
19:03 And in His sovereignty and His perfect wisdom
19:06 and in His unconditional everlasting love,
19:09 He decided to put her asleep.
19:10 Yes.
19:12 So is that how you've been able to cope with this,
19:15 is by knowing that one day,
19:18 Jesus is going to return and she's going to wake up
19:23 and be caught up in the clouds with Christ?
19:28 That is how I face one day at a time every day.
19:32 Yeah, yeah.
19:33 But, you know,
19:35 mommy died on Wednesday July 28th 1:40 PM.
19:39 Wow.
19:40 And like I said, she breathed her last breath
19:42 on the back of this hand.
19:43 And by the way, Jason, I still feel that breath
19:45 being breathed on my hand.
19:47 And so that was, you know, 1:40 PM Wednesday.
19:52 I didn't sleep Wednesday night.
19:54 When I went out to the living room
19:57 where we would usually worship, I saw her...
20:01 I saw the Bible, the hymnal,
20:03 and the quarterly, the lesson book
20:07 that we worshiped with 24 hours before.
20:10 And when I tell you, Jason, I lost it, I lost it.
20:14 Yeah.
20:15 I totally lost it.
20:17 And I would say I lost it that Thursday morning,
20:22 and I did not find it
20:24 until the Tuesday before her funeral,
20:26 which was the week after.
20:29 And very quickly, I want to tell you,
20:32 you know, that experience,
20:33 you know, that Sunday
20:34 before her funeral, that Sunday night.
20:36 I know I would've shared it with you.
20:37 That Sunday night, I realized that I was numb
20:40 from the top of my head to the bottom of my feet.
20:43 I was walking and I wasn't feeling the ground
20:46 under my feet.
20:48 I was driving to have a private viewing,
20:51 you know, 'cause they...
20:53 In the funeral home, you can have a private viewing
20:54 before the funeral a day before.
20:56 I was driving, and I was speeding.
20:58 I didn't know that I was speeding.
20:59 It's my cousin had to tell me, Ricki, you were driving fast.
21:04 And in Trinidad,
21:05 the speed limit is 100 kilometers per hour.
21:08 And I was going 130, 140 and I did not know,
21:13 because I was not feeling the accelerator
21:15 under my foot.
21:17 I was holding the steering driving
21:21 and I was not feeling the steering wheel in my hands.
21:24 That's how numb I was. Wow.
21:26 And I went to the private viewing
21:29 and I went to see her.
21:33 And I cried.
21:36 Yeah. I cried, I cried.
21:38 You know, the one thing that I miss most
21:42 is being able to talk to her,
21:43 because I feel as if now I have no one to talk to, you know?
21:46 And I shouldn't say I feel as if I don't have anyone
21:49 to talk to on the level
21:50 at which mommy and I spoke at, you know?
21:53 So I miss talking to her.
21:55 And so I had my final talk with her
21:57 and I played with her ears and I played her hands.
22:00 And you know, she wanted to burn with her Bible
22:03 because she was cremated.
22:05 She wanted to cremate with her Bible of 28 years.
22:08 And, Jason, when I placed the Bible
22:14 in mommy's hand,
22:16 God reminded me.
22:18 He said, "Ricki, how many nights
22:20 did you have to stay up with your mother
22:22 because she couldn't sleep?"
22:24 And you know, Jason, I would've shared with you sometimes,
22:27 you know, mommy didn't have a good night
22:28 or she didn't have a good couple of days.
22:29 Yes.
22:31 And He said,
22:34 "How many nights did your mother wake up
22:37 because she had chest pains or she couldn't breathe?
22:40 How many nights did your mother wake up
22:42 because she had a nauseous feeling?
22:45 Your mother didn't sleep sometimes for days."
22:47 Sometimes, Jason, three days would pass
22:49 and mommy would sleep like only two or three hours
22:51 for the three days.
22:53 And I was up with her right through.
22:54 I was working, right?
22:56 I was pastoring, doing 100% of my duties,
23:00 but still having to come home and deal with mommy.
23:03 And He told me, He whispered in my ears
23:07 that your mother's finally getting the sleep
23:10 that eluded her all this while.
23:13 And the next time your mother wakes up,
23:16 it will not be because of pain.
23:18 Pain will not wake your mother up.
23:20 Not being able to breathe will not wake your mother up.
23:23 The next time your mother wakes up,
23:25 I will wake her up to carry her home.
23:27 Amen. Amen.
23:29 Jason, and when I placed that Bible in my mother's hand,
23:33 I've preached on it,
23:35 I have told other people it, I've done the Greek.
23:38 But for the first time in my life,
23:42 I understood what it meant when the Bible said
23:44 that God is going to give you a peace
23:47 which passes all understanding.
23:49 Yes.
23:50 And the same hand that God must have used
23:54 to wipe His own tears when His Son died,
23:58 is the same hand,
23:59 I think, He used to wipe my tears.
24:01 Wow.
24:02 And that's why I told you I lost it
24:04 that Thursday morning.
24:06 I didn't find it until that Tuesday
24:08 when I saw her,
24:09 because God placed in me a peace.
24:11 What gets me through every day
24:14 is the grace and strength of God to allow me
24:17 to face each day, one day at a time.
24:19 Yes.
24:20 And that is what I want to let everyone know
24:22 who is watching.
24:23 I want to let you know
24:25 that there is no moment of the day, Jason,
24:28 that I do not feel broken, that I do not feel sad,
24:32 that I do not feel like a lost little boy in a park
24:36 with no one around him.
24:37 There is not a moment of the day
24:40 that I do not feel out of place in this world,
24:43 that I do not feel dark.
24:45 But there is also not a moment of the day
24:48 that I do not feel God's grace and strength giving me
24:52 the strength to face each day, one day at a time.
24:55 Amen.
24:57 And so I just wanted to say
24:58 if you are facing something, right?
25:01 If you are facing something, facing a loss,
25:04 it's okay to feel like this.
25:06 But let God give you that grace.
25:08 That is how I've been facing every day,
25:10 every morning when I wake up.
25:12 I thank God when I realized
25:14 I was giving the breath of life.
25:15 I thank God for it.
25:17 And I ask Him, "God, give me the grace to face today."
25:21 Because the thought of facing the rest of my life
25:24 on this world without my mother is going to cripple me
25:27 and it's going to make me fold in two.
25:29 So all I'm doing, Jason,
25:31 is taking everything one day at a time.
25:35 It is difficult, you know. Yes.
25:37 I don't want folks to hear
25:38 how I'm speaking and think that it's,
25:40 you know, I'm okay, and it's all right,
25:42 and everything's going to be fine.
25:44 That hole inside of you, that void, it will never go.
25:48 But what is going to happen is once you put your faith in,
25:51 once you put your trust in God and His Word,
25:53 He is going to give you the grace is,
25:55 is going to give you the grace to face every day,
25:59 one day at a time.
26:00 And so to specifically answer your question,
26:02 it is that hope that burns within my heart
26:05 that keeps me going.
26:07 Because I used to always tell folks that
26:10 I have a Jesus to meet in heaven.
26:12 But now I no longer just have a Jesus to meet,
26:15 I have a mother to see.
26:17 And so it is keeping that hope fresh alive,
26:21 that keeps me going day after day.
26:23 Amen. That's powerful.
26:25 You know, I've communicated with you for a while.
26:29 And you've really shared some of these spiritual gems
26:31 and I thought it would be very important for you
26:34 to share with our viewing audience.
26:36 We're running low on time,
26:38 but I want to open it up for that one final thought
26:41 that you may have that you want to share.
26:44 Well, there is something I really wanted to say,
26:45 so I want to try to fit those two in one.
26:49 When it was three weeks when she died,
26:51 Wednesday to Wednesday, I woke up,
26:53 realized it was three weeks.
26:55 And I said, "Wow,
26:57 today is three weeks since mommy died."
26:59 My God told me, "Ricki, son, today is not three weeks
27:03 since your mother died.
27:05 Today is three weeks closer
27:07 to when you shall see her again."
27:08 Wow.
27:10 And so for me, Jason,
27:11 I am not counting up on my mother.
27:12 He said, "Don't count up.
27:14 It's a countdown."
27:15 And so the day of this recording,
27:17 it's 12 weeks to the day.
27:18 And so it's not 12 weeks
27:20 since she died or since she fell asleep,
27:22 it's 12 weeks closer to when I shall see her again.
27:26 Friends, time is limited, but that's all I want to say.
27:30 Don't look to this as a count up.
27:34 As time passes, it's actually closer
27:37 to when you shall see your loved one again.
27:38 Count down.
27:39 Thank you so much for coming on
27:41 and sharing in your transparency.
27:42 And I want to thank you for joining us.
27:44 Until next time, may God richly bless you.


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